Asked by Baroness Jowell To ask Her Majesty’s Government what
action they are taking to evaluate innovative cancer treatments and
make them available through the National Health Service, and to
raise life expectancy for cancer patients. Baroness Jowell
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To ask Her Majesty’s Government what action they are
taking to evaluate innovative cancer treatments and
make them available through the National Health
Service, and to raise life expectancy for cancer
patients.
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I begin by extending my deepest gratitude to everybody
who is giving their time to attend the debate this
afternoon, and to contribute to something that will
begin to reshape the way we think about the treatment
of cancer for people all over the world. In doing so, I
thank the noble Lords, friends and colleagues who have
shown me such support since I learned that I had a
brain tumour. Today, though, is not about politics but
about patients and the community of carers who love and
support them. It is of course about the NHS but it is
not just about money. It is about the power of
kindness, support for carers, better-informed judgments
by patients and doctors, and sharing access across more
and better data to develop better treatments.
I shall briefly tell your Lordships what happened to
me. On 24 May last year I was on my way to east London
to talk, not for the first time, about new Sure Start
projects. I got into a taxi but I could not speak. I
had two powerful seizures. I was taken to hospital. Two
days later I was told that I had a brain tumour—a
glioblastoma multiforme, or GBM. A week later the
tumour was removed by an outstanding surgeon at the
National Hospital in Queen Square. I then had the
standard treatment of radiotherapy and chemotherapy. To
put it in context, across the country GBM strikes fewer
than 3,000 people every year. It generally has a very
poor prognosis.
Less than 2% of cancer research funding is spent on
brain tumours, and no new vital drugs have been
developed in the last 50 years. A major factor in
survival is successful surgery. The gold standard is to
use a dye to enable the surgeon to identify the tumour
precisely, but it is available in only about half the
brain surgery centres in the UK, and it must of course
be extended to all of them.
Cancer is a tough challenge to all health systems,
particularly to our cherished health service. We have
the worst survival rate in western Europe, partly
because diagnosis in cancer is too slow. Brain tumours,
in particular, grow very quickly, and they are very
hard to spot.
However, there is a good reason for hope. It is called
the Eliminate Cancer Initiative. Its director, along
with his great colleague who is travelling with him, is
here with us today, one of the greatest men in the
cancer field: Professor Ronald DePinho from the MD
Centre in Houston. ECI is a global mix of programme and
campaign, already under way in Australia. It is
designed to be rolled out next in the UK, the USA and
China. It recognises that no one nation can solve the
problem of GBM on its own. It is an opportunity that
belongs to the world.
ECI aims to do three main things: first, link patients
and doctors across the world through a clinical trial
network; secondly, speed up the use of adaptive trials;
and thirdly, build a global database to improve
research and patient care. Usually, drug trials test
only one drug at a time. They take years and cost a
fortune to deliver. New adaptive trials test many
treatments at the same time. They speed up the process
and save a lot of money. We can see approaches to the
delivery of cancer treatment transformed.
ECI also has a secure cloud platform—it sounds rather
technical, but you will very soon understand its
importance—where doctors can share insight and data.
Too much data is held in silos with highly limited
access. That reduces its value. This is quite a new
approach. Already, collaborative discussions are under
way in England. ECI will focus on GBM because it is so
tough to beat. It is all about sharing knowledge at
every level between everyone involved. If we achieve
this, we will go a long way to crack GBM and other
cancers.
For what would every cancer patient want? First, to
know that the best, the latest science was being used
and available for them, wherever in the world it was
developed, whoever began it. What else would they want?
They need to know that they have a community around
them, supporting and caring, being practical and kind.
While doctors look at the big picture, we can all be a
part of the human-sized picture.
Seamus Heaney’s last words were, “noli timere”—do not
be afraid. I am not afraid. I am fearful that this new
and important approach may be put into the “too
difficult” box, but I also have such great hope. So
many cancer patients collaborate and support each other
every day. They create that community of love and
determination wherever they find each other, every day.
All we now ask is that doctors and health systems learn
to do the same, and for us to work together, to learn
from each other.
In the end, what gives a life meaning is not only how
it is lived, but how it draws to a close. I hope that
this debate will give hope to other cancer patients
like me, so that we can live well together with
cancer—not just dying of it—all of us, for longer.
Thank you.
[Applause.]
That belongs to all of us, so thank you very much.
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My Lords, this is the greatest privilege, and one of
the most daunting moments of my life—to follow my noble
friend, with the eloquence, the care, the compassion
and the courage she has shown. She is my noble
friend—not by affiliation or values, although we share
them—but through a lifelong friendship that has lasted
for well over 40 years.
If the House will forgive me, I want to say a word
about Tessa—the noble Baroness, Lady Jowell—as a
person. We got to know each other when we both chaired
our respective social services committee. That is when
I saw to begin with her care and compassion, described
so well this afternoon. It is a compassion that has
overcome the challenges that she faces and those of her
family. Yesterday on the “Today” programme, and she
said it this afternoon about the community of care, it
was not just her own courage that shone through; it was
the deep love and affection of her family—David, Jess
and Matthew, and her extended family. The care she
displayed this afternoon reached out, because it is the
caring family and the community around those with
cancer who travel on the journey as well. It is the
love and hope that they give that reaches out.
Sally, the young mother on the “Today” programme
yesterday, as with the experience of the noble
Baroness, Lady Rebuck, whose husband Philip I knew well
and saw just three days before he died, displayed the
search for excellence, for innovation and, above all,
for action, that my noble friend has called for this
afternoon.
I know absolutely nothing about the ECI—but I will.
There is a need to set aside bureaucracy in terms of
the experimentation that patients who are on this
journey wish to try, to set aside the usual processes
and to share the best practice from wherever it comes.
Part of the role of family is to enable people to be
able to sustain themselves while they seek access to
that innovation and that improvement, and to know about
where excellence exists here and across the world. Who
you know is so often—too often—the telling point when
you are seeking the best that exists in scientific
development. What my noble friend Lady Jowell, my
friend Tessa, has said this afternoon is that this
should be available whoever you know, wherever you are
and whatever access you have had to other people’s
knowledge. The breakthroughs across the world need to
be made available as quickly and with as little
bureaucracy in our health service as possible.
My noble friend mentioned 24 May last year, when she
was on the way to a Sure Start programme. She and
I—when she was the first designated Public Health
Minister and I had education and employment—started the
Sure Start programme. We both went on a journey through
to Cabinet—she exemplified her own wonderful networking
skills in helping us to win the Olympics for London and
their implementation, which shone across the world, and
I had all sorts of different guises, good and bad. That
journey has, for Tessa, my noble friend, always been
about support, care and reaching out to others. When
terrible terrorist attacks have taken place, not just
here but across the world, she has cared about those
families, just as her family now care about her. We
are, all of us, privileged to be here this afternoon
and to have heard her speak. She has given us a clarion
call to pick up that cudgel and work tirelessly to
ensure that what she seeks is carried forward for
others in the future, and that our NHS, our scientists,
our innovators and our consultants can draw down on the
experience from across the world and can remember
as we all will, and who we are privileged to
have heard this afternoon.
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My Lords, there is a lot of skulduggery in politics.
Tessa said that this was not about party politics. It
is not about party politics, but it is so much about
politics. Looking to my left and to my right, I see
every Labour Peer I have ever met—and a large number I
have never met. Looking further to my left, I see
innumerable Members of Parliament and, looking to the
Public Gallery, I have never seen it as full as it is
today. Every one of them is a friend or a member of the
family of . In the decades that I have known her, she
has done what everybody in the country wants their
politicians to do—to earnestly follow noble causes and
to try to make life better for other people. Tessa has
been doing that in every way on every day for years and
years.
These last months, for Tessa, have not been easy, but
three things shine out. First is the extent to which
she has touched other people’s lives. She has had
masses and masses of correspondence from people she has
helped. Just one sticks in my mind. It concerns a
journalist she had met when she was Secretary of State
for something. The journalist was having trouble,
having just had a baby. Tessa went to a far part of
south London—I apologise to the people of south
London—just to see the journalist and offer her
assistance in relation to bringing up her new baby.
That was absolutely typical of Tessa.
Tessa said that we should try to bring some kindness
into politics. That is what she has done all along.
There is so much to go with Tessa. She is going to make
such a difference in what happens in the world. When
the test of character came for Tessa on 24 May
2017—and, my goodness, it came—my goodness me, she
passed it.
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My Lords, I would like to congratulate the noble
Baroness, Lady Jowell, on arranging this debate, and
express my extreme admiration for her brave and moving
speech. It is an honour to be able to add praise for
all she has done and for the battle that she and her
family have fought. As a result of her efforts, I
believe that she will help many in the future who are
less fortunate than her.
My younger sister died of cancer last year. She was a
successful novelist with a great capacity to make
friends and an extraordinary knowledge of culture and
languages. But she had a pain and she did what so many
women do, which was to struggle on and delay seeking
medical help, with fatal consequences. In spite of the
brilliance of the doctors in Dartmouth, New Hampshire,
she died within two years of her first pain. So I am
speaking today not only to commend the noble Baroness,
Lady Jowell, but to encourage everyone to seek medical
advice in such circumstances, and to endorse the
Government’s scheme for referring possible cancer cases
to hospital within two weeks.
Since I have a business background, I want to make two
other points. The first is to commend the
pharmaceutical sector for its many breakthroughs. Of
course university research and development is critical,
and we have an extraordinary share of Nobel Prizes in
this country, but we also have great firms:
AstraZeneca, GSK and smaller innovative sisters which
apply capital and data, do trials and create a business
model that can help millions of patients and
shareholders—for example, our pension funds. These
businesses have a real role in the task of finding
innovative solutions for hard-to-tackle cancers,
including brain cancer, which we are discussing today.
The second is to highlight the role of business-focused
corporate responsibility. When I was at Tesco, we
created a partnership with Cancer Research UK called
Race for Life. Every year we organised 200 or 300 races
in parks across Britain, with a lead event in Battersea
Park. I ran it 11 years on the trot. They were amazing
experiences, with women young and old, from our
checkout to ’s office. There was
always a splendid turnout of MPs and leaders like Helen
Alexander, who sadly died of cancer herself last year.
And there was always a bevy of Baronesses to add a
touch of class and shed a few pounds, and some of you
are here today. That was fun, but the important thing
is that we raised a vast amount of money for Cancer
Research UK—over £400 million in that period—and we
increased the salience of cancer research through our
TV ads and promotions. And on the back of every runner
was scribbled a message about a friend with cancer, or
a friend who had died of cancer—a very emotional
experience. In that era cancer recovery rates
accelerated. We were in the right place at the right
time. I wish the noble Baroness’s campaign similar
success.
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My Lords, I, too, thank my noble and utterly
inspirational friend Lady Jowell. Very few people can
take a personal challenge and transform it for the
universal good with such courage, insight and
compassion. She is a beacon of light and purpose to us
all, and I thank her from the bottom of my heart.
My remarks are based on personal experience, as my late
husband, Philip, Lord —a great
friend and a tremendous admirer of my noble friend Lady
Jowell—died of oesophageal cancer in 2011. A routine
test in 2008 showed an advanced adenocarcinoma and a
30% chance of survival. Chemotherapy had limited
effect, and influenced by advisers—we have heard about
that—and fortunate enough to have the means, my husband
chose to go to New York for his life-saving operation.
That was a mistake, and 18 months later the tumour
returned in exactly the same place. Only then did we
discover the oesophageal centre at the Royal Victoria
Infirmary in Newcastle, and Professor Griffin, who
undertook a very unusual second operation which
extended Philip’s life by a year. But where was the
accessible database highlighting this centre of
excellence when we needed it most?
There have been precious few innovations in oesophageal
cancer since, so we must harness digital
development—accumulate and share research studies from
our NHS and around the world—as the noble Baroness,
Lady Jowell, advocates with the Eliminate Cancer
Initiative. In the UK, interestingly, we have a
resilient IT platform, Coordinate My Care—CMC—created
by NHS clinicians for end-of-life care in London,
putting patients’ experiences at the heart of its data
collection. Doctors develop a personal healthcare plan,
which is shared in real time with health and social
care and emergency services. In the last year, five out
of 10 seriously ill patients died in hospital in
London, but for those on CMC it was less than two out
of 10, with the biggest increase in those able to die
at home, as they wished. If we genotype every cancer
sufferer and do DNA sequencing on their tumours, as our
Chief Medical Officer has called for, and if we ask
patients to record every side effect on a simple app,
by adding this phenotypic data to genotypic data we
could—just imagine—have sets of priceless data and
improve patient/oncologist consultations by providing a
graph of reactions.
Most oncology teams are rightly focused on improving
survival. Pain, nausea and bone marrow support are the
main traffic lights for routine intervention. But
patients with digestive system cancers, including
stomach and colon cancers, all suffer other unpleasant
side effects which can crush their spirit, leaving them
debilitated and home-bound. A pioneering
gastroenterologist at the Marsden who specialises in
uncovering the cause of these symptoms and curing them
was so essential to Philip’s quality of life that I
fundraised for a proof of concept trial which over the
past two years found that nearly all patients responded
positively to one of three inexpensive tests based on
simple algorithms delivered by a trained nurse. The
result: a better quality of life and better tolerance
of treatment. Could this inexpensive intervention be
introduced in relevant centres without a randomised
trial?
Our marvellous NHS is overwhelmed and struggling to
make the paradigm shift to personalised cancer care and
take advantage of global research. A universal
patient-centric database of genetic information,
treatment and symptoms could be a bridge between the
tried-and-tested protocols we currently depend on and
the personalised medical programmes of the future,
ensuring increased innovation and continuous
improvement, which my noble friend Lady Jowell has
called for. Perhaps Coordinate My Care could become a
national programme, providing key data for her urgent
vision of international medical co-operation.
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My Lords, I have joined this debate to pay tribute to
the noble Baroness, Lady Jowell, for speaking out so
bravely and powerfully on behalf of patients to promote
faster access to innovative treatments for cancer
patients, which is so desperately needed. I start by
declaring my interests as the chief executive of the
medical research charity Breast Cancer Now and as chair
of the National Cancer Research Institute.
We know that research has led to huge improvements in
cancer outcomes, particularly in breast cancer, the
area I know best. We know too that, sadly, progress has
not been uniform, and it has been woefully slow for
some cancer types. This needs to change. As we have
heard, it is time to do the really difficult stuff.
Brain tumour research must be of enormous concern for
the whole cancer research community, not least because,
in addition to many patients with primary brain
tumours, thousands of patients with breast, lung, skin
and bowel cancer will develop metastatic brain tumours,
reducing their life expectancy to single figures too.
Time is short and speed is of the essence. However,
because we want patient safety and fair access for all,
the system takes its time to assess the clinical
evidence for, and cost effectiveness of, new
treatments, then to negotiate deals with drug companies
and then to work through the budget impact hurdles that
treatments have to overcome. But patients need access
to life-saving treatments now, and we are being left
behind other similarly wealthy economies. Therefore,
the system needs to change.
I believe that adaptive trials offer real flexibility
that can benefit both patients and research, but there
are challenges involved. This type of trial and other
new approaches are becoming more accepted by funders
and, crucially, by the regulators, who drive the
methodology in these situations. This needs to be
further encouraged, and there are other innovative ways
of speeding up trials that can help too.
Innovative clinical trials are the key to faster
access, but joining up data is vital too. On a very
practical level, the NCRI is bringing together
multidisciplinary teams of researchers who are expert
in clinical trials. They represent a unique resource
for UK science. I am delighted that the latest new
collaboration is to bring UK researchers in lung,
breast and skin cancer together with brain tumour
researchers to look at new opportunities. This would be
a great chance to take forward the noble Baroness’s
ideas.
Finally, innovation does not have to be expensive. For
example, you would think that repurpose drugs could get
to patients quickly but it is not so easy. I know that
the Minister knows all about that and I look forward to
hearing from him. Again, I congratulate the noble
Baroness on speaking hope for patients.
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My Lords, it is a great privilege to speak in this
debate. I begin by observing that although, as we have
heard, we currently have one of the worst cancer
survival rates in Europe, the overall 10-year survival
rate for all cancers in the UK has improved from 25% a
few decades ago to 50% today. The laudable and
ambitious goal of our cancer strategy is to make that
75% within the next decade, thereby not only catching
up with but surpassing international, and especially
European, averages. Cancer Research UK, among other
agencies, is currently researching possible therapeutic
interventions, many of them innovative, in a range of
more than 200 different types of cancer, and that is
something to celebrate. However, I suggest that three
vital conditions need to be met if those aspirations
are to be achieved.
The first, as others have mentioned, is proper funding
for research as well as for the highest-quality
treatment available for all cancer patients. This is
obviously a major challenge for an NHS which is
strapped for cash and for a country which faces so many
massive, competing demands for its resources. In the
previous debate today, I and others referred to the
recent report of the Lords Select Committee on The
Long-term Sustainability of the NHS and Adult Social
Care. I beg your Lordships’ indulgence to do so again
now, as that report, which I hope we will soon be able
to debate, directly addresses this issue.
The second condition is prioritising planning,
especially of the workforce. Health Education England’s
cancer workforce plan talks about training 300 more
endoscopists and 200 more radiographers, and about
every patient having access to a cancer nurse
specialist by 2021. That is most encouraging but it has
to be seen in the context of a significant shortage of
staff trained to perform tests necessary for diagnosing
cancer and alarming forecasts about future vacancies.
For instance, 28% of radiographers are due to leave by
2021. The APPG on cancer concludes that NHS England
will struggle to achieve the objectives set out in the
cancer strategy unless corrective action is taken
immediately—and that includes taking the NHS out of
party politics in order to encourage long-term plans.
The final condition is putting patient outcomes ahead
of process target performance. This is essential for
identifying treatments for inclusion within the NHS. It
also applies to the release of funding, both for early
diagnosis and support for life after treatment. Several
cancer care alliances have had their funding delayed
because of their lack of progress against the 62-day
wait standard, and some genomic diagnostic testing is
in danger of being withdrawn even though that may mean
that thousands of cancer patients may have to endure
what, for them, would be unnecessary and debilitating
chemotherapy. Good patient outcomes include not only
increased life expectancy through cure or slowing down
the disease but the prospect of improved palliative
care.
I welcome this short debate on innovative cancer
treatments and, like everyone else, I am grateful to
the noble and courageous Baroness, Lady Jowell, for
securing it. I hope that its outcome will be another
step forward for cancer patients everywhere.
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My Lords, it has been a real privilege to hear the
noble Baroness, Lady Jowell, give such a brave and
inspiring speech. I do not know how anyone cannot be
very touched by her words. I have long admired her and
now more than ever see her as an inspiration. The
spirit that she demonstrated so clearly is absolutely
characteristic of her. If I may be permitted a personal
note, I love the hat.
The noble Baroness makes an impassioned case for the
availability of new experimental forms of treatment,
and who is there to gainsay her? Cancer Research UK
says we need much more research to understand the
nature of glioblastomas—and of course it is right
too—but meanwhile what are patients to do? It is true
that doctors are able to prescribe novel treatments for
individuals on what is known as the named patient
basis, and the Bill of the noble Lord, , a couple of
years ago encourages that approach. However, the
problem is that many such new treatments are specific
for very small numbers of cancer patients and the costs
are enormous.
That immediately brings us to the question of
funding—we cannot get away from that. The late lamented
cancer drugs fund was soon overwhelmed by the high
costs of new diagnostics and drugs. The remarkable
advances in so-called liquid biopsies, in scanning, in
proton beams and in specifically tailored molecular
therapies and immunotherapy are all extremely costly,
and no amount of juggling with flexible pricing
mechanisms and outcomes-based pricing will find the
money needed. So I ask the Minister whether the
Government will take note of the recommendation in the
Select Committee’s report on the future sustainability
of the NHS for a new method of funding involving a
hypothecated tax system based on national insurance
payments. I am sorry to be so controversial.
The average age of your Lordships’ House is 69. That
means that almost half of us have or will have had one
cancer or another. I have had two and I suppose,
statistically speaking, that saves one other from
having one. That makes cancer take on an intensely
personal meaning for all of us and we are fortunate to
live at times when so much more can be done for us than
ever before. Unfortunately, it all comes at a cost and
we could be doing so much better. As we lag behind in
so many ways, in some cases we are complicit in
failures that should just not happen.
I finish on a point about prevention, where we might be
able to save someone. We have an extremely effective
way of detecting women who are susceptible to ovarian
and breast cancer. Here I express my interest as a
recently retired trustee of the charity Ovarian Cancer
Action. Testing for the BRCA gene, the gene responsible
for passing on susceptibility, is now offered to close
relatives of ovarian cancer patients, but a relative
who is not quite so close, with a smaller chance—say
5%—of being a carrier, cannot have the test. If you
have a one in 20 chance of carrying a gene such as
that, would you not go for a test costing just £175? It
is a bargain for the NHS. I ask the Minister: will the
offer of such a test now be made to all such at-risk
relatives?
Finally, the briefing I have had from Cancer Research
UK suggests that our ability to conduct vital cancer
research will be compromised after we Brexit from the
EU if we cannot ensure the future of cross-border
clinical trials, as has been spoken of. Will the
Government ensure that we will be able to continue to
collaborate seamlessly with centres in the rest of
Europe after Brexit?
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My Lords, I pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady
Jowell, for calling such an important debate. She shows
the dignity and courage in confronting her illness that
have characterised her approach throughout her
inspiring career in public life. It is typical of her
selfless determination that, passion and energy
undimmed, she is still fighting to ensure that everyone
receives the best care.
Cancer is one of the most feared words in the English
language. It represents a terrifying diagnosis. It is
the number one cause of untimely deaths in Britain.
Cancer has touched all our lives, and we should fully
support anyone who wants to try an innovative drug or
treatment. When confronted with dreaded words such as
“malignant”, “inoperable” and “advanced”, surely any
alternative that offers hope is better than none. There
is another important reason to allow patients to take
the risk of different innovative treatments. Quite
simply, there will be no cure for cancer unless
patients can receive them.
Many cancer patients talk of the wonderful care they
receive from the NHS, but, as others have pointed out,
this should not blind us to the fact that, of the top
30 countries that offer universal access to healthcare,
the UK is in the bottom third for cancer survival.
Time is necessarily short, so I will make three brief
observations. First, we fail to invest sufficiently in
the early diagnosis of cancer. If caught early, the
chances of cure and survival are dramatically improved.
In some states in the USA, there has been a concerted
effort to try to catch lung cancer with CT scanning and
the pioneering use of keyhole surgery.
Secondly, the Government need to help transform a
culture in the NHS that can be resistant to innovation.
When a patient is handed a terminal diagnosis and only
standard treatments that do not work, the patient dies,
and so does any chance of finding a cure. We need to
ensure that our remarkable NHS staff are developed and
empowered to adopt and interact quickly with the
innovations that become available, both in the UK and
overseas.
Thirdly, there needs to be a broader argument about the
reform and funding of the NHS to put this on a
long-term sustainable basis. My honourable and, indeed,
very good friend , who has been
cured of cancer twice, rightly praises the outstanding
treatment he received from the NHS. He has proposed
that the NHS should be given its own stand-alone
funding stream, perhaps through hypothecated national
insurance contributions. The debate is certainly urgent
and long overdue.
To quote Dylan Thomas, from my native Swansea, most
patients when confronted with terminal cancer and the
possibility of dying do not want to go gentle into that
good night. Like the noble Baroness, they want to focus
on staying alive and take the risk of adaptive trials.
They should be able to rage against the dying of the
light by trying innovative treatments to keep their
hope alive.
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My Lords, I join other noble Members of this House in
thanking sincerely Tessa, my noble friend Lady Jowell,
for this debate. Rightly, people have talked about her
courage. Those of us who know her know that she has had
that for years. As a politician in the other place she
would dare to tread where others would not even think
of. I was pleased that the Sure Start scheme was
mentioned, because it really is a legacy given to this
country that has helped young children. So we are
privileged today not only to have this debate but to
have my noble friend Lady Jowell introduce it and speak
from her personal experience.
I need to declare an interest: I am a trustee of
University College hospitals foundation trust and was
on the group that initiated what is now the Macmillan
Cancer Centre, near the hospital. It took a lot of
fundraising, but, linked with the hospital, we now have
the proton beam therapy machine coming online, but it
will not be until 2020. A proton beam therapy machine
will come online at Christie’s in Manchester later this
year. That is going to help. Since 2008, 400 of our
young children have had to go abroad for treatment for
cancer, because we have just not had the facilities in
this country. Yet we are very good at making
breakthroughs—the research, the innovation and all the
rest of it. What goes wrong between that and touching
the individual with cancer who needs help?
When we started that scheme, the statistics showed that
one in three of us would suffer cancer during our
lives. I gather that it is now one in two. It is a
national challenge for us. As the noble Lord, Lord
Turnberg, rightly said, it is not an easy one; it is
quite difficult.
At the moment, we are trying to raise—it is almost
peanuts—£0.75 million to buy a photodynamic therapy
machine. In lung cancer, 60% of those who have
pre-cancerous lesions in the lung go on to have cancer
which is difficult, and in many cases impossible, to
deal with. We are trying to raise the money to do that,
and it is right that we should. As my noble friend
said, it is not just about National Health Service
money; it is about somehow bringing together everything
we can to fight what is the scourge of the world today.
It is not just in Britain; it is an international
situation. Somehow, we have to get the researchers, the
clinicians and all the profession together to make sure
that we can deliver what my noble friend has said. Her
arguments are unanswerable. I hope that the Minister
does not just give us a list of what the Government are
doing now; we want to know what they are going to do to
respond to this important debate.
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My Lords, less common and rare cancers account for more
than half of all cancers, but each is a small
individual market and so under-researched. Be they
brain or, in my sister’s case, mesothelioma, they
suffer a chronic lack of innovation. I therefore
commend the noble Baroness, Lady Jowell, for her
bravery and the moving way in which she has brought
these important issues to the House.
This country has a globally unique research asset that
could make a difference. It is the cradle-to-grave
records inside the NHS. We are uniquely placed to
supply the insights on what works and what does not.
This large-scale, real-world information could
revolutionise care and research, especially health
economic evaluation.
Yet researchers cannot get access. Let me explain, with
some examples. The Brain Tumour Charity has been trying
to unlock this data for their patients, 97% of whom
want their data to be used for research. They have
written informed consent, yet they have been met with
official obstruction at every turn. NHS Digital wants
£100,000 a year. Public Health England wants £378 an
hour, and for information that would be more than a
year out of date.
The same challenges affect those developing cures. In a
recent survey, more than 80% of UK biotech companies
said that NHS data and patients are a unique asset for
the UK life sciences sector. However, almost all said
that access to these insights was near impossible given
current processes and policy, and that they were forced
abroad.
We want to see the NHS improve patients’ lives through
innovation. We are all aware that there is no infinite
money tree from which to pay for such innovation and,
as a result, we need timely and accurate evaluation
based on real-world insights from within the NHS on
what works and what does not. It is important to stress
that decision-makers and researchers generally do not
need access to patient-level data; they need access to
privacy-conserving statistical insights such as, “Is
treatment A or B more effective?”. Statistical
technologies exist to do this routinely, and at very
low cost, yet they are almost unknown in the NHS, which
employs armies of human analysts instead.
We must get the policy and investment on real-world
research right if we are to make effective use of these
assets. It does not require primary legislation, but it
does require joined-up thinking across health, business
and research, and careful management of various
internal vested interests. The creation of Health Data
Research UK provides a unique opportunity to drive such
alignment. Therefore, I ask the Minister to commit to
using the life science sector deal to make this happen.
Can he confirm the routine measurement of care outcomes
in the NHS as his top priority, and clarify who will be
in charge of co-ordinating and funding delivery for
this critical cross-cutting agenda?
It has been a huge privilege to partake in the debate
of the noble Baroness, Lady Jowell.
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My Lords, it is customary with debates like this to
congratulate the mover on being able to secure the
time. I do not know whether that is appropriate today,
but I should like to pay tribute to Tessa for the
courage and dignity with which she has addressed this
issue.
I would like to talk from a self-interested point of
view about prostate cancer. The first thing that you
are told when you are diagnosed with this is that more
people die with it than of it—that it is manageable—but
that presupposes that you have been diagnosed. The
point that I want to dwell on today is that the process
of getting diagnosed and being aware is something that
men in particular are not very good at. There are many
men in this House who are currently suffering from
prostate cancer. We do not go to the doctor frequently
enough; we are not used to being prodded and probed in
the way that ladies are; and we do not like the idea of
the test, although the truth is that there is nothing
much to the test. Those who do not like it are just big
fearties, as we would say in Scotland, and the ones who
do like it are easily pleased.
The treatment that I have received and the support that
my family have enjoyed from the Western General in
Edinburgh since 2014 have been exemplary. But I am
concerned about the fact that far too many men are
unaware of the signs of the condition. Many of us take
statins and hypertension drugs that result in us
getting up at night. We do not realise, or do not wish
to see, that that nocturnalism could be cancer related.
Therefore, I would like two things to be considered by
the medical profession and the authorities—first, that
there be a far greater public awareness campaign on the
symptoms of prostate cancer and, secondly, a more
proactive approach should be taken by GPs when they are
prescribing drugs with diuretic side-effects. Far too
many men become aware of the significance of their
symptoms when it is getting late or, sadly, too late,
and when the treatment of the condition is a great deal
more expensive and, on occasions, quite unpleasant—and,
certainly, not always successful.
Once again, Tessa, I thank you for giving us the
opportunity to raise this issue in the manner in which
you have done today. It is not an issue for party
dispute but a social concern for a medical problem
which is still intractable. We are not going to solve
it tomorrow, but if we can save more lives more quickly
and make those whose lives cannot be saved that much
more comfortable, we will be fulfilling a very useful
function and offer a great deal of support to the
families that are so afflicted.
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My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Jowell, for
initiating this debate today—it is a privilege to take
part and I thank her for her passionate, moving and
very brave speech. I want today to support all cancer
patients who wish to have the opportunity to be
involved in clinical trials, as adaptive clinical
trials are a promising way to develop new treatments by
offering those patients multiple opportunities to test.
Life expectancy has significantly improved but
unfortunately in some cancer sites early intervention
is more difficult; for example, as we have heard, brain
cancer and pancreatic cancer, which my late husband
suffered from. Those numbers are struggling to move. As
we all know, cancer touches us all.
Today’s debate, however, brings attention to how
important new innovative cancer treatments can offer
life-changing outcomes. The NHS is working
collaboratively with the life sciences sector to
improve accountability and transparency in the take up
of innovation with the support of NICE, and that has to
be welcomed. The NHS enjoys the benefits of SME
contributions: many of the companies in the UK life
sciences sector are small and medium-sized companies,
so I am pleased that financial support has been given,
with the help of the new £6 million government scheme,
together with £34 million over four years provided to
encourage and support those innovators to develop
world-leading digital solutions. A good, supportive
research environment in the UK is needed to ensure that
the best research can be carried out to speed up the
development of pioneering treatments, with accelerating
access to new medicines, benefiting from working with
international collaboration on clinical trials: that
must continue.
Flexible pricing mechanisms, such as outcomes-based
pricing, would result in quicker decisions about
approvals, with pricing based on a drug’s value to the
NHS. Also, more emphasis must be placed on the genomic
revolution to eliminate the one-size-fits-all approach
to cancer treatment. I welcome NHS England’s steps to
create a genomic medicine service to close the gap and
ensure equitable access to molecular diagnostic testing
for all patients across England. Good data sharing is
paramount.
A cancer diagnosis can be, and is, frightening,
distressing and confusing. As I said, it touches us
all, whether it affects a loved one, friend or
colleague. A much needed shift in emphasis towards
prevention and a clinical strategy march of medical
science, together with a strong media campaign, must
lead to increased longevity. Finally, cancer patients
throughout their treatment are focused on staying alive
as long as possible, so it is important that they are
free to take more risks. I thank the noble Baroness,
Lady Jowell, for her brave speech: this is about giving
hope for everyone, all patients; it is about improving
the cancer campaign and improving outcomes.
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My Lords, I too thank my noble friend Lady Jowell for
an extraordinary speech, full of passion, compassion
and hope. I had the great privilege of following her as
a Minister at the Department of Health: what a
formidable reputation she had as our first Public
Health Minister and what a legacy she left. Many of
today’s public health programmes which are taken for
granted she established in those first two crucial
years. I do not know whether she knows that I have not
quite forgiven her for her other big decision at
Richmond House, which was to get rid of chocolate
biscuits and bring in fruit bowls instead. What she
does not know is that a certain Minister of State not a
million miles from where she is sitting had a secret
cache of those biscuits—my noble friend became very
popular for having meetings in his own ministerial
room.
My noble friend Lady Jowell has raised a huge question
about access for NHS patients to innovative treatments.
In a sense, that is the great paradox of health in this
country. We have an NHS that we are enormously proud
of. It is still very well regarded internationally. We
have an incredibly strong life sciences sector, with
over £60 billion of turnover and over 200,000
high-quality jobs. We have one of the strongest
pharmaceutical industries in the world: 25% of all
global medicine is developed in the UK. Then, as the
noble Baroness, Lady Dean, and my noble friend Lord
Turnberg said, we have the great paradox; it is a
British problem too. We have this great development,
this great invention, but we are slow to adopt it. The
experience of my noble friend Lady Jowell and so many
other NHS patients is the same. If we look other
countries, such as Germany and France, we can see that
their patients have much more access to innovative
treatments than we do in this country.
When my noble friend was a Minister, she had the first
discussions about the establishment of NICE, which was
set up to deal with this British problem. It was
calculated that it took 15 years for a proven new
innovative treatment to be adopted generally in the
health service. Here we are, nearly 20 years, still
facing the huge problem of innovation adoption. It is
true that the Government have established the
accelerated access review; they also have a life
sciences strategy, post Brexit. However, we have to do
much more. Of course finance is important, but the
Minister will know that it is not just about finance—it
is about attitude. I hope that the one message he will
take away from this extraordinary debate and from my
noble friend is that we have to do better in the NHS to
adopt the huge innovation that so often takes place in
our country.
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My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Blunkett, I have
known the noble Baroness, Lady Jowell, for over 40
years. We met as young women, trying to make our way in
the and change the
world. I never dreamed that we would end up as
ministerial colleagues at the Department of Health or,
two decades later, as fellow Members of your Lordships’
House today. What does not surprise me is that my very
dear friend has shown unfathomable fortitude and
determination in her current illness, or that her
enduring commitment to the public good has led her to
scrutinise the care we provide to those who have
cancer—particularly obdurate ones like her own—and to
campaign for improvements in that care.
Following on from the words of the noble Lord, Lord
Hunt of Kings Heath, I believe that the UK has
tremendous opportunities to make progress, even given
the formidable challenges that these cancers present in
terms of timing, precision of diagnosis and the
development and evaluation of effective treatments. If
we are to make that progress across the spectrum of
prevention, detection, treatment and cure, we have to
collaborate internationally. I hope the Minister will
have some words to say about the EU clinical trials
regulation that we expect in 2019. We also have to
exploit all the resources we have; that includes the
NHS and its scientific goldmine of information, which
my noble friend has already referred to. That is one
resource. Another is the Cambridge Biomedical Campus; I
declare my interest as a recent chair of Cambridge
University Health Partners. At that campus, we have
world-leading research institutes, such as the
Laboratory of Molecular Biology, Cancer Research UK and
the Wellcome Sanger Institute, just down the road. We
have great NHS hospitals: Addenbrooke’s now, and
Papworth to come. We have leading international
pharmaceutical companies, including AstraZeneca and
GSK; and, of course, we have the University of
Cambridge itself. The opportunities are enormous if
these players can collaborate effectively.
There are exciting plans, led by Professor Richard
Gilbertson, a world-leading expert in brain cancers in
children, to build on the already impressive results
in, for example, breast cancer, by creating a
ground-breaking institute for early detection and a new
cancer research hospital, bringing patients speedy
access to the latest research and treatments. I hope
the Department of Health will see this not as another
simple NHS building project but as a real opportunity
within the context of the life sciences strategy.
The noble Baroness, Lady Jay, cannot be here today as
she is abroad. She asked me to say how sad she was to
miss this opportunity and to pay some words of tribute
to the noble Baroness, Lady Jowell. I think she would
feel that the House has perhaps done her proud in
paying that tribute. I started off by saying that, 40
years ago, Tessa wanted to change the world. The debate
today illustrates clearly that her determination to do
so is undiminished.
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My Lords, I thank my noble and very good friend
, who I have been friends with for over 40
years, from our days on Camden and Brent councils and
through many other campaigns for her to become a
parliamentarian and so on. I find today’s debate on
evaluating innovative cancer treatments very
important.
Britain has a first-class reputation for research but,
at the same time, we do not always manage to get the
treatment to the patients as early as we should. A
number of citizens from around the world want to come
to Britain because they know that we have a good
reputation for the research and treatment of cancer. It
has to go further; there must be more sharing of
research and data in Britain and around the world. This
would save time and save lives. Travelling is tiring
and dangerous for patients with cancer. We must have
places of excellence in cities, so that people can at
least get to them.
I would like to thank Athena Lamnisos, from the Eve
Appeal, for her great work. I have worked closely with
her. The Eve Appeal is the UK national charity raising
awareness and funding research into five gynaecological
cancers: ovarian, womb, cervical, vaginal and vulval.
It was set up to save women’s lives by funding
ground-breaking research and is focused on early
detection and developing effective methods of risk
prediction, as well as developing screening for
women-only cancers. It is vital that the health service
continues to fund screening, which must be made more
widely available. Many lives will be saved if cancer is
detected early. In the same way as my noble friend
described issues surrounding prostate cancer, women
also must not be afraid to go for these tests.
I would also like to thank Vanessa Elliott, consultant
at St George’s Hospital and Sarah Rudman, consultant
oncologist at Guy’s and St Thomas’, who were very
helpful to me in preparing for this debate. They
thought that I would have hours to speak. I told them
that it would be only three minutes, but they have been
very helpful nevertheless. I hope that we will have a
longer debate on cancer and the health service at some
stage when I can talk at greater length. The Brain
Tumour Charity and many others who contacted us all
have explained how serious and important it is that
cancer is dealt with as quickly as possible.
There are lots of imperfections in clinical trial
design and the process could be improved. In oncology,
they try to have good working relationships with pharma
in order to be involved in the trial design process at
the earliest opportunity. It is hoped that focusing on
design will lead to a drug licence. Most of the time
the pharmaceutical industry and clinicians are aligned,
but not always. In general, though, the drug
development process is still chunky. Traditionally,
most trials still progress through phases 1, 2 and 3,
which is expensive in terms of finance, nursing and
doctors’ time and, importantly, patient effort. It is
also time-consuming and may result in patients waiting
too long for new treatments. We must ensure that when
there are new treatments there is time available when
patients are willing to experiment with those
treatments.
In recent years, more innovative drug trials have been
used in an attempt to reduce the length of the
drug-development process. That is what can happen if we
share around the world. It is important for patients
also to have equitable access to the early phase of
clinical trials. These trial units are often found only
in large cancer centres, and not all patients have
access to them. Well-enough patients who have exhausted
conventional treatments and tumour-specific trials may
want to access unlicensed drugs.
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My Lords, my first experience of the courage of the
noble Baroness, Lady Jowell, was watching her take on
the Chancellor, , to squeeze the
Olympic budget out of him, which was as close as you
can get to a combat sport. None of us who know her is
in the least surprised that she should see her cancer
challenge as an opportunity to help other people. I
thank her for shining her very bright light on this
subject and I am delighted to work with her again.
I shall basically talk about science. I believe we are
at a pivotal moment in cancer research. That is why for
the past year I have been very involved with Cancer
Research UK, which has been referred to a few times
this afternoon, trying to help it think through how to
raise privately all the money needed to capture the
enormous opportunity presented by the spectacular
advances in science and technology. I shall give noble
Lords some examples: the improvements in genomics, the
ability to harness our immune system in treatments and
our ability to visualise what is going on inside
tumours. We can also apply all the new technology we
have. This is when I say things such as “AI”, “deep
learning” and “machine learning”, noble Lords all nod
and we all know what we are talking about. It means
that we can generate and analyse massive amounts of
data in a hugely helpful way for big patient trials
around the world.
Quite simply, the goal of cancer research, which is
what we are thinking about, is to exploit scientific
developments—this has been mentioned a couple of times
today—to improve 10-year survival outcomes: from two
out of four to three out of four people. That is a nice
simple goal. To accomplish this, there are three
particular areas of focus that I shall bring to noble
Lords’ attention. We have talked about the first one
already. Cancer Research UK will now devote much more
money and meaningfully shift talent and infrastructure
to tackle the hard-to-treat cancers such as brain
tumours, as well as lung cancer, pancreatic cancer,
which killed my father, and oesophageal cancer. As
everybody knows, to date, research in these areas,
compared with, for example, bowel and breast cancer,
has been very low and very thinly spread.
The second key area of work is personalised medicine.
Doctors need to be armed with a detailed read-out of
the molecular faults in a patient’s tumour, and to be
armed with a new generation of drugs that precisely
targets them—no more hit-and-miss and wait-and-see. An
enormous amount is happening on this all around the
world, as was commented on. There are great new
treatments and smarter clinical trials. There is a big
opportunity to get them properly co-ordinated so that
we can get the most out of them; the current approach
is much too fragmented.
The final work that I want to talk about is really
revolutionary and most captures the changes in science
we need to exploit. It is what we are calling the grand
challenges. These are very big research grants, aimed
simply at solving the biggest problems—the ones that
will change people’s lives. They are doing it by
bringing together the best scientific talent from
around the world and from across different disciplines
and forging them together to attack the big problems. I
am really optimistic that that will produce
world-changing outcomes. Our aim is to raise all the
money for this privately, really by conveying to
potential donors that, because of the science
revolution, the opportunity is huge and it is now, so
give us your money. I apologise for practising my pitch
here, but we need to work on it.
My request to my noble friend the Minister is not for
money but simply to help preserve the competitiveness
of the UK’s research environment. I will leave noble
Lords with one thought. After we leave the EU, it is
essential that our future immigration system allows us
to attract, recruit and retain global scientific talent
at all professional levels, regardless of their
nationality. That is my number one ask.
I once again thank the noble Baroness—my dear friend
Tessa—for shining her light, and long may it continue.
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My Lords, this has been a magical debate. I cannot
remember anything quite like it in all my time in your
Lordships’ House and I believe it will have a profound
effect. I express my great admiration for my noble
friend Lady Jowell: for her steely determination, her
compassion and her humanity for other people. This
debate will be seen in many different countries.
Quite a few years ago, the celebrated American
biologist Stephen Jay Gould was diagnosed with
mesothelioma, which is cancer derived from contact with
asbestos. Doctors told him that he had only eight
months to live—or that is what he thought they had told
him, because this was the average survival period. He
looked at this, as a statistician, and understood that
what matters about an average is not just the average
itself but the span of possibilities. He famously said:
“I am an optimist who tends to see the doughnut instead
of the hole”.
He studied the evidence on survival rates, in a careful
and sophisticated way, and his conclusion was that,
“those with positive attitudes, with a strong will and
purpose for living, with commitment to struggle … and
not just a passive acceptance of anything doctors say,
tend to live longer”.
Stephen Jay Gould lived for 22 years after his
diagnosis. Admittedly, this was through the supreme
force of his will and his knowledgeability, but it
shows that you must interrogate any diagnosis that is
made. That is crucial; it was crucial for him.
Moreover, his fame brought mesothelioma out of the
shadows where it had languished for so long—a bit like
with tobacco, there was a lot of industry resistance.
My glory was stolen a bit by the previous speaker,
because I was going to conclude by saying that we are
on the threshold of some of the greatest innovations
ever made in medicine. These are coming very quickly.
Why? Because of the algorithmic power of
supercomputers; because doctors and medical researchers
can share their research instantaneously across the
world, which was not possible before the digital age;
and because of linked advances in genomics and
genetics. There is enormous hope. For example, the
situation with myeloid leukaemia, which was thought to
be incurable, is now quite different because of these
research breakthroughs.
The main question to be asked of the Minister is the
one that inspired the debate: will these breakthroughs
be confined to the privileged few? The NHS is in the
middle of a horrible crisis. The problems of the
changing demographic structure of our society lie
behind this. Will the Minister say, forcefully, that
the treatment of relatively rare cancers such as brain
cancer and mesothelioma will not suffer as a result of
the situation in our health service, and that he will
take direct measures to ensure this?
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My Lords, this has been a unique, moving and effective
debate. I am proud to be able to support the demands of
the courageous noble Baroness, Lady Jowell.
In my three minutes I want to focus on two of her
demands: early diagnosis and patient rights. Public
Health England says:
“Diagnosing cancer earlier is one of the most important
ways to improve cancer survival and we know that those
patients who have their cancer diagnosed as an
emergency have poorer outcomes”.
That is why new screening and diagnostic methods must
be made available quickly.
In fact, I am standing here because of screening. I say
to the noble Lord, Lord Turnberg, that I have had two
as well; perhaps we should start a club. That shows how
far we have come, does it not? Screening does not
merely diagnose disease but can sometimes predict the
risk of it through identifying gene mutations, as we
have heard. Genomic screening can also contribute to
treatment decisions by predicting how the tumour will
respond to chemotherapy. That can avoid chemotherapy
for those patients who will not benefit from it.
Diagnoses of colorectal cancer through the national
bowel screening programme remain under 10%. This
effective early diagnostic tool is not being used
widely enough. Is that because CCGs are not offering
the screening, or is it because people are not
returning the samples? What are the Government doing to
improve those figures?
I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Jowell, that
patients should have a great deal more say in the risks
that they are prepared to take, and that adaptive
trials should be allowed where they could help. I will
not repeat many of the cancer-related examples that we
are today, but I shall give the House a non-cancer
example of where the system is preventing a patient
from receiving medicines that have already been shown
to work, to illustrate that the problems that the noble
Baroness has identified go wider than cancer.
A small boy, whom I will call A, has rare and serious
epilepsy. He was treated, at great expense to the NHS,
with powerful pharmaceutical drugs to stop his fits,
although some of them were not even licensed for use on
children. His condition did not improve and the doctors
admitted the drugs could damage his vital organs and
shorten his life. His parents heard of a similar case
in Holland where a child was being treated successfully
with cannabis-based medicines, which were licensed
there.
Child A has now been receiving cannabis treatment in
The Hague with enormous success. His doctor here is
convinced of the safety and efficacy of these
medicines, which are not licensed here, but is
frightened to treat him with them because he is afraid
that the GMC will strike him off. The family can no
longer afford to remain in The Hague, yet the Home
Office tells me that it will not grant a special
licence for the treatment in the UK. This child could
die of his fits. His parents would agree in a heartbeat
for him to receive the medicines here, even though they
are unlicensed. They know the risk is small and the
benefits huge. They should have the right to make that
decision for their child, just as the cancer patients
mentioned by the noble Baroness should have the right
to make decisions about risks and about their own
treatment. What is the Minister going to do about that?
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My Lords, at the beginning of this debate it became
clear that we are dealing with one of those
extraordinary parliamentary moments. In a way, I have a
much easier job than the Minister today, so my sympathy
is with him in answering this debate.
Are any of us surprised that when Tessa, my noble
friend Lady Jowell, was diagnosed with what she called
this “bloody tumour”, she tried with her usual courage,
energy and vigour to try to improve the outcomes for
all people with cancer? No, we are not, because this is
the woman who, as the first ever Public Health
Minister, promoted the tobacco control that we all now
take for granted, facing outrage from the tobacco
industry, its friends at the Sun and the Mail and,
though probably less well-known to the public, many
Back-Bench Labour MPs who thought pubs and clubs would
go out of business if people were not allowed to drink
in the smog created by cigarettes. “Nanny” was the
label that the papers gave her at the time, but how
many lives have been saved already as a result of my
noble friend’s determination to do the right thing? The
label of nanny was continued because of Sure Start—of
course it was. But this is a woman whose determination
led her to take on the Prime Minister and all comers to
convince us that the Olympics should come to London,
could come to London and, when they did so, to ensure,
with others, that we all had an absolutely great time
in 2012.
The reason I am reminding the House of these matters is
not only because of my admiration for my friend Tessa.
I am reminding the House, particularly the Minister,
that in the face of opposition and scepticism, my noble
friend will win through. She has proved to be correct
time and again. I say to the Minister and the
Government that they had better believe this noble
Baroness and take what she is telling us very
seriously. From the relatively modest suggestion that
fluorescent dye to identify the tumour should be
available in all brain surgery centres in England,
which seems to me perfectly correct, to the more
innovative—adaptive clinical trials, testing multiple
treatments against a standard, which could speed up the
introduction of new drugs as well as enabling existing
ones to be repurposed, linked to a platform to share
data across the world—my noble friend is saying: this
is a demanding new paradigm, but the prize is surely
worth the struggle.
The Government and all of us should follow her example
and not be afraid to commit to making this happen.
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My Lords, I begin by joining all Members of this House
in paying fulsome tribute to the noble Baroness, not
just for securing this debate today but for the
extraordinary character she is showing by leading it.
It has been a rich and moving discussion and, as the
noble Lord, Lord Blunkett, said, it is extremely
daunting to follow her and try to do justice to the
requests and speech she has made, but it is also a
privilege to be able to do that on behalf of the
Government.
I also praise the noble Baroness for the determination
that she has shown in raising the profile of issues
around cancer treatment during the course of her
illness. I think it is fair to say that she has
inspired us all, and many cancer sufferers too, but I
suppose we should expect nothing less from the woman
who brought us the most wonderful Olympic and
Paralympic Games in 2012.
I am also very grateful to the noble Baroness for
sharing her speech, via the noble Baroness, Lady
Thornton, and I have done everything I can to address
in my response today the questions that she has asked.
She will forgive me if there are any stones left
unturned; perhaps we can pick them up afterwards.
As we have heard, every story about cancer is a
personal one, but behind those stories lie some very
stark numbers. As our population ages, the prevalence
of cancer rises. One in two of us will get cancer at
some stage in our life. The question is not so much how
we stop that happening, but how we can diagnose and
treat it more quickly and effectively, so that it moves
from being a life-threatening disease to one that can
be managed throughout a normal and happy
lifetime.
We must be honest in saying we are not yet there.
Historically, we have lagged behind the best performing
countries in Europe, and catching up with those
standards has been a focus for successive Governments,
including this one.
There is good news. Things are getting better. In the
past eight years, various actions, including the
establishment of the cancer drugs fund, mean that there
are about 7,000 people alive who would not have been
otherwise, but, as we have heard, the benefits of these
actions are spread unevenly. Survival rates for certain
cancers are stubbornly low. Testicular cancer has been
transformed into a nearly totally curable disease, but
for other cancers—we have heard about oesophageal,
stomach, pancreatic, lung, liver and, unfortunately,
brain cancers—very little progress has been made. There
is much still to do and we need to do better.
The first step towards achieving the world-class cancer
outcomes we all want and which NHS patients rightly
expect is to have a plan backed by the cancer
community. As noble Lords will know, that plan was
provided three years ago by the Independent Cancer
Taskforce, which provided a cancer strategy aimed at
saving 30,000 lives a year by 2020. It was truly a
landmark moment. As any Government would have, the
Government accepted the recommendations of the strategy
and have backed it with funding.
It starts, of course, with prevention, and we have
heard about the vigour with which the noble Baroness
pursued public health and prevention when she was a
Health Minister. Smoking and obesity remain the biggest
preventable risk factors for cancer. That is why last
year the Government introduced a childhood obesity
strategy and a tobacco control plan for England. The
truth is that we are making progress on smoking, and
rates are coming down for almost every age group.
However, we have a long way to go to tackle the obesity
epidemic which we have not yet done. More courage is
needed, I fear.
As the noble Baroness also said, early diagnosis is
critical, and there are new early diagnosis standards,
including a new 28-day faster-diagnosis standard.
However, we all know that it is not just about targets
but about bringing the best diagnostic tools and
therapies into the NHS more quickly. There are also
incredibly exciting discoveries in diagnostic science
happening as we speak. I am sure that noble Lords will
have heard about the successful trial of a blood test
for cancers by a team at Johns Hopkins University, and
we want our NHS to be able to bring on these kinds of
innovations as quickly as possible. I am hopeful that
our new accelerated access pathway, whose team meets
for the first time next week and which becomes
operative in April, will be looking at these kinds of
technologies and will provide opportunities for them to
come into the health service for NHS patients up to
four years quicker than is currently the case.
At the centre of every cancer experience is a human
being, their family and friends, with all the emotional
and physical needs that attend. So it is right to
expect that every patient is treated with compassion
and dignity. The National Cancer Patient Experience
Survey shows that more cancer patients are experiencing
positive care overall, which is extremely welcome. I
want to use this opportunity to pay tribute not only to
the amazing NHS and care staff who deliver that care
for cancer patients, but to our extraordinary range of
charities and voluntary organisations. It is invidious
to name some, but Macmillan Cancer Support, Cancer
Research UK, The Brain Tumour Charity, and others
provide outstanding support to people with, and
recovering from, cancer.
Of course, their illness is not what defines cancer
patients; life goes on, with its usual joys—if I heard
the radio correctly, I think that for the noble
Baroness that includes dancing—as well as its
challenges. Making sure that life can go on as normal,
or as close to normal as possible, is essential. At the
moment, standards of care are high but there is local
variation, and that is why there is a plan to create a
national recovery package that is there for every
cancer patient from the moment they are diagnosed.
Inevitably, where the Government can make the most
difference is in providing the necessary investment. I
would like to highlight three examples of that
investment, and shall attempt to avoid the list that
Ministers often slip in to these kind of speeches.
There are two areas where investment is really making
an impact for cancer patients.
Elsewhere, the noble Baroness, Lady Jowell, has spoken
about the surgery required to treat her cancer, which
can be highly invasive and debilitating. There is major
investment, I am pleased to say, in the modernisation
of radiotherapy equipment taking place across England,
including two new proton beam therapy centres. Combined
with new approaches to surgery, it is hoped that that
will bring benefits to around 6,000 brain tumour
patients a year who will get access to less invasive
surgeries. The noble Baroness specifically asked about
the availability of a key florescent dye, and I can
tell her it is called 5-ALA. It helps surgeons to see
malignant tissue, so helps to ensure a more accurate
surgical margin during surgery. We have spoken to NHS
England in advance of this debate, which has committed
to working with the cancer alliances and the brain
cancer surgery centres to drive national uptake of its
usage.
I also want to highlight another innovation or change,
which is a big investment in the health infrastructure
through 20 biomedical research centres in England. I
had the opportunity to visit one of these last year at
University College London Hospital, where I met some
wonderful and very brave cancer patients who were among
some of the very first people in the world to trial
immuno and combined therapies, and they absolutely
understand the importance of giving patients a choice
about the ability to take risks when the prize is extra
months of life with the people they love. These centres
and their clinical research networks are now recruiting
or have set up around 700 trials. I am just sorry that
the noble Baroness was unable to find one in this
country that she could access for her particular form
of cancer. I can promise her that our determination,
like hers, is that British cancer patients should not
have to travel abroad to be part of trials or to access
the kind of treatments that they need for their
cancer.
Before closing, I want to address a number of the other
issues raised by the noble Baroness during her speech.
I absolutely agree with her that more investment is
needed in cancer research for brain cancer. Making that
happen is a specific objective of the departmental
working group that has been operating under our Chief
Scientific Adviser, . I can confirm
that this group will deliver its final report to me
next Wednesday, and I can also say today that one
action stemming from that will be a highlight notice
from the National Institute for Health Research to
encourage researchers to submit applications for
funding in the specific area of brain cancer research.
I hope that some of the interesting ideas and research
projects going on today will look at that opportunity
so that we get more funding into this important
area.
The noble Baroness also talked about the importance of
adaptive trials. I am again pleased to report that they
form a growing proportion of the clinical research
network’s portfolio and are mainly in cancer trials. We
undoubtedly need to be more radical in this, and the
noble Baroness has provided a specific suggestion. I
would be delighted to meet the director of the ECI, and
I am thrilled that he is here today to hear the debate.
There has been, as the noble Baroness pointed out, a
lack of new brain cancer drugs. Again, we have been in
touch with the National Institute for Health and Care
Excellence—I did not know that she had a role in its
founding—about this. I am informed that there are a
number of drugs in development specifically for
glioblastoma and NICE has committed to publishing draft
guidance on these drugs before they receive a licence.
Drugs recommended in the draft guidance will be funded
from the point of licensing, which brings forward the
opportunity to use them by many months.
The noble Baroness also talked about the importance of
data and having access to data. I could not agree more.
As we know, one of the wonderful things about the NHS
is that it is here for all of us, all the time. One
quirk of the way that it was set up—I am not sure that
Nye Bevan intended it, but it is certainly a benefit—is
that it has an unrivalled dataset on patients’ medical
experiences and journeys, which is invaluable to the
research community. We all know that we have not always
got policy right in this area or brought the public
with us about the benefits of sharing data, but there
are some key decisions coming up in the next few months
to help us to access and create that dataset for
research purposes. I warmly welcome the opportunity to
engage with the noble Baroness and other noble Lords to
make sure that we can win the argument with the public
about sharing data for the benefit of not just
ourselves but one another.
There have been many questions from noble Lords, and I
hope that they will forgive me for not trying to answer
all of them in the interests of time. I will of course
write to any noble Lords whom I have not answered
specifically. I just want to highlight three other
things. First, genomic medicine and its potential in
combination with artificial intelligence and machine
learning have been mentioned. We have a set of 5,000
whole cancer genome sequences—believe it or not, that
is the biggest set in the world. But, thinking about
the number of people getting cancer every year, we need
to do much better on this. There are big ambitions
here, and I hope to use the opportunity of the NHS’s
70th birthday to make real progress in something
ambitious in this area.
Several noble Lords asked about the Lords’
sustainability report. The department is perhaps not
shown in its best light in how late the response has
been. It will be published very soon, I can promise
that. The issue of taxation has also been raised. I
hope that noble Lords will forgive me if I say that is
above my pay grade. They may also have noticed,
however, that the Secretary of State for Health and
Social Care has been here throughout the whole debate
and listening intently. So I am looking to him, as I
know that he will be making a case across
government.
Finally, I have been a Minister for long enough to know
that you cannot have a debate without talking about
Brexit—so let us make it quick and positive. Clinical
trials have been mentioned, but we should also mention
medicine regulation. The Government’s intention, going
into that negotiation, is to have a new way to create
the same kind of partnership that we have now, not just
for the good of patients in this country but for those
across the EU as well. That is our intention and we
think that is the right thing to do.
To close, I would like to talk about a word on which
the noble Baroness focused towards the end of her
speech, and that word is “Hope”—it also happens to be
the name of my youngest daughter. The NHS symbolises
many noble ideas—reassurance, compassion and service to
others—but more than anything it provides people with
hope: hope of a better life and more years enjoyed, not
just for themselves but for those they hold dear: hope
for a better today and for a better tomorrow.
What the noble Baroness has done today is to offer
hope. With her courage in calling and leading this
debate, and with her ever-fertile mind making
suggestions for how we can improve cancer care, she
raises our sights and demands that, collectively, we
work harder to offer hope to people affected by the
terrible disease she suffers with such dignity. It is
the right challenge, and one I am prepared to accept on
behalf of the Government. In doing so, I promise her
that our efforts will not waver until the scourge of
cancer no longer robs us of the ones we love.
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I thank the Minister very much indeed for a really
inspiring and excellent summary of our discussion.
Obviously, I would like to thank everybody else who has
considered, and taken part in, the discussion today. I
feel that we have made real progress forward. It happens
very rarely in this sort of way and I am absolutely
delighted and grateful to everybody for their
contributions and for the support that the Minister will
continue to have. I thank my very dear, long-standing
friend, the Secretary of State. He will keep his own—I
always have a problem talking about this but he will know
exactly what I am talking about. Everything will be done
as we hope it will, so thank you very much indeed. Now we
look forward to the progress.
[Applause.]
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My Lords, on a momentous day, I beg to move that we
adjourn the House.
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