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Marriage Allowance
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Mr (North East Hampshire) (Con)
1. If he will make it his policy to increase the marriage
allowance. [903290]
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The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mel Stride)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on all the hard work that he
has put in to promote marriage and civil partnerships, and
all the benefits there are to families and wider society
thereof. I assure him that the design of the marriage
allowance is such that it will indeed continue to rise as
we raise the personal allowance, as we did in the recent
Budget.
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Mr Jayawardena
Given the £48 billion of costs to the Exchequer from family
breakdown, will my hon. Friend meet me and a delegation to
discuss how we can further strengthen marriage through the
tax system and help people to keep more of what they earn?
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My hon. Friend is pushing in a direction in which we have
already travelled. In the last Budget, we made provision
for ensuring that those who have been married or in a civil
partnership and have a deceased partner are able to claim
the marriage allowance and backdate that claim some four
years. I will, of course, be happy to meet him and his
colleagues to discuss this matter further.
Personal Incomes
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(Southampton, Itchen)
(Con)
2. What assessment he has made of the effect on average
personal incomes of recent increases in the national
minimum wage and national living wage. [903291]
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The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr Philip Hammond)
In April, the national living wage will rise to £7.83. That
means an annual pay rise of over £2,000 for a full-time
national living wage worker since the introduction in 2016
of the national living wage, which has helped reduce the
proportion of full-time jobs that are low paid to the
lowest level in at least 20 years.
Sustaining long-term pay growth relies on improving
productivity. That is why we have increased the national
productivity investment fund to over £31 billion, and it is
why we are taking further action on skills, retraining and
capital investment as we build a Britain fit for the
future.
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Could the Chancellor tell the House whether income
inequality has gone up or down since 2010? How does income
inequality today compare with levels under the last Labour
Government?
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Mr Hammond
Income inequality is lower than it was in 2010. In fact, it
remains lower than at any point under the last Labour
Government. The Gini coefficient, which is an
internationally recognised measure of income inequality, is
now 3% lower than in 2010. Since my autumn statement in
2016, we have increased the tax contributions of the
highest earners while those on the lowest incomes have
gained overall.
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(Halton) (Lab)
The problem is in constituencies like mine, which is one of
the most deprived in the county, where more and more people
are having to go to food banks. What is the Chancellor
doing, in terms of the economic development of the country,
to ensure that we get better-paid jobs, especially in
places that are severely deprived such as Halton?
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Mr Hammond
The hon. Gentleman makes an absolutely correct point. In
the long run, higher wages can be delivered only through
increased productivity. That means investment in
infrastructure, investment in skills and training, and
investment in research and development—with both public
funding and tax incentives for private funding—and it means
ensuring that capital is available for businesses to invest
in the equipment that will raise the productivity of their
workers. The Government’s ambition is for a high-wage,
high-skilled economy, and we are investing to deliver that.
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(Dover) (Ind)
Will the Chancellor confirm that the lowest-paid have in
fact seen a 7% real- terms wage increase since 2015, and
that income inequality is now at its lowest level for 30
years?
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Mr Hammond
My hon. Friend is right. As I said, income inequality is
lower than at any point during the Labour Government.
People in full-time work on the national living wage have
seen a £2,000 a year pay increase as a result of the
national living wage and, of course, everybody in work has
seen an improvement in their take-home pay as a result of
the significant increases in the personal allowance that
this Government committed to, and which this Government are
delivering.
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(Glasgow Central)
(SNP)
The Chancellor’s living wage is a pretendy living wage and
is not actually available to those under the age of 25. Can
he explain why the age gap in the minimum wage between
25-year-olds and 16 and 17-year olds actually increased in
his Budget from £3.45 to £3.63? How can this be an economy
that works for everybody if the youngest are not getting
paid equally?
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Mr Hammond
The rates for people under 25 were increased in the Budget
by the biggest amount ever—[Interruption.] Look, of course
we would all like to see high rates of employment and high
rates of pay across all age groups in the economy, but for
young people, the most important thing—the Low Pay
Commission highlights this fact—is that they get into work,
because if they are in work when they are young, they are
more likely to remain in sustainable work throughout their
lifetime, and that must be the priority.
Air Passenger Duty
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Sir (East Devon) (Con)
3. What recent discussions he has had with the airline
industry on air passenger duty. [903293]
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The Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury (Robert
Jenrick)
Her Majesty’s Treasury regularly engages with the airline
industry on air passenger duty. At the autumn Budget, we
froze 2019-20 APD rates at 2018-19 levels for all
short-haul passengers and for long-haul economy passengers.
That provided a freeze for 95% of passengers.
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Sir
May I congratulate my hon. Friend on his appointment? He
has done extremely well.
Airlines such as Flybe, which is based at Exeter airport in
my constituency, undertake a disproportionate amount of
domestic flights. As my hon. Friend will be aware, domestic
flights, unlike international ones, are currently hit twice
by APD—at both take-off and landing. Treasury officials, of
course, will tell a new Minister that any change is
impossible and hide behind EU rules, but as we exit the EU,
will my hon. Friend look at addressing that anomaly?
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I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for his kind remarks.
I pay tribute to my predecessor, my hon. Friend the Member
for Harrogate and Knaresborough (Andrew Jones), who was
well regarded across the House.
As my right hon. Friend says, the Government are unable to
exempt the return leg of a domestic flight. Of course, as
we leave the European Union that could change, and the
Treasury will keep the issue under consideration. We
certainly recognise the economic significance of regional
airports such as my right hon. Friend’s in Exeter. For that
reason, we have kept short-haul rates frozen since 2012. In
2015, of course, we took the significant step of exempting
children.
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(Newcastle upon
Tyne North) (Lab)
The Government’s own figures show that Newcastle airport
will be most affected by any cuts to air passenger duty or
air departure tax in Scotland. The continued uncertainty
about this issue is also incredibly damaging. From his
newly elevated position, will the Minister tell us what
progress has been made on the issue? Is he in a position to
confirm how English regional airports will be protected
from the effects of any cuts?
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The hon. Lady is right to raise this issue, as Newcastle
airport and others are very important to the economy of the
north-east. As she heard during my response to the previous
question, EU rules prevent us from changing the rules
regarding the return leg of a domestic flight. We will keep
the matter under consideration. We have, of course, taken
other important steps, such as keeping the rates frozen and
exempting children. It is worth saying that air passenger
duty raises more than £3 billion a year, so it makes an
important contribution to public services.
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(East Antrim)
(DUP)
There would be substantial benefits from reducing or
removing air passenger duty, including GDP growth, job
creation, and an impact on trade, foreign direct investment
and tourism. The duty particularly distorts trade between
airports in Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic. There
was a commitment in the Budget to have a review of air
passenger duty. Will the Minister give us an update on
where that review is?
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that question. As he
knows, in the autumn statement we committed to a review of
not just air passenger duty, but the impact of VAT on
tourism in Northern Ireland. That review is under way and
will report back in time for this year’s autumn Budget.
Inheritance Tax
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Mr (North East
Somerset) (Con)
4. If he will bring forward legislative proposals in
respect of the imposition of inheritance tax on direct
personal donations to campaign groups involved in
referendums. [903295]
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The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mel Stride)
My hon. Friend will know that the inheritance tax exemption
for donations to political parties does not exist for
donations to referendum campaigns. However, my right hon.
Friend the Chancellor and I have discussed the issues that
my hon. Friend has raised in previous weeks, and we are
sympathetic to looking carefully at how the law may be
changed for future referendum campaigns.
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Mr Rees-Mogg
In the past nine years, there have been 23 retroactive tax
changes where there has been unfairness, error or unduly
onerous taxation. When the law was drafted in 1994, there
was no idea that there would be a succession of
referendums. It is deeply unfair that people who have
contributed to the alternative vote referendum, the
referendum in Scotland and the Brexit referendum may find
very large tax bills winging their way towards them, not
least as Her Majesty’s Government spent £8 million of
taxpayers’ money willy-nilly in the Brexit referendum.
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As a matter of principle, it is not the position of Her
Majesty’s Treasury to apply tax changes retrospectively
but, as I have indicated, my right hon. Friend the
Chancellor and I will be looking carefully at the issues
that my hon. Friend has raised.
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Mr (Chingford and
Woodford Green) (Con)
Pursuant to that question, may I add one further caveat,
given that Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs is beginning
to look at all the other referendums that have taken place?
Will it take into consideration those organisations that
are not charities or political parties, but which do public
good? They are beginning to be concerned that HMRC will
pursue individuals who have made donations to them. Will my
right hon. Friend take looking at that under his wing as
well?
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My right hon. Friend raises an interesting point. He might
like to make specific representations to me on the matters
he has raised. Indeed, if he wishes to meet me to discuss
them, I would be very happy to do so.
Government Borrowing
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(Henley) (Con)
5. What assessment he has made of potential risks to the
economy from high levels of Government borrowing. [903296]
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(Bolton West) (Con)
10. What assessment he has made of potential risks to the
economy from high levels of Government borrowing. [903302]
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The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr Philip Hammond)
In 2010, we inherited the largest deficit since the second
world war, standing at nearly 10% of GDP. We have
successfully reduced it by three quarters, meaning that it
stood at 2.3% at the end of last year, but our debt is
still too high. High levels of debt leave us vulnerable to
economic shocks and incur significant debt interest, which
is why the Government have clear and detailed fiscal plans
to reduce borrowing further and to ensure that debt falls.
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Does the Chancellor agree it is essential that our policies
continue to show that we are living within our means,
because the alternative—a failure to do so—simply passes on
our bills to the next generation?
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Mr Hammond
Yes, I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend that a policy
of increasing borrowing simply means passing the cost of
today’s consumption to future generations and wasting more
taxpayers’ money on debt interest. Even Labour’s shadow
Education spokesperson has acknowledged that this is a
ultra high-risk strategy that would be a gamble with our
economic future.
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Does my right hon. Friend agree that uncontrolled debt is
bad for the economy and bad for the young people who have
to pay the debt off, and that we should avoid following the
model preferred by the Opposition, which has all the
qualities of the parliamentary sewage system?
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Mr Hammond
Yes, I can agree with my hon. Friend on that. Any party
that aspires to government and is serious about properly
managing the public finances should be able to explain how
it would fund the expenditure it is committing to—and to do
so without consulting an iPad.
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(Bishop Auckland)
(Lab)
The Chancellor says that he does not want to incur more
debt, but yesterday the Treasury approved a minute
providing for a contingent liability on Carillion, for
which we have had no estimate. Will he please explain to
the House what sort of expenditure will be covered—I see
that he has given an indemnity to the receiver—and how he
will report to the House on how much money the Government
will be liable for?
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Mr Hammond
Yes, the Government have given an indemnity to the official
receiver so that it can take on the role of special manager
of Carillion’s assets to ensure the continuity of public
services in the many schools, hospitals and local
authorities that have contracts with Carillion. The
Treasury has provided the official receiver with a line of
credit that enables the official receiver’s office to
operate the company’s public sector contracts, after which
it will, in due course, recover the costs from the
Department that would have paid fees for those services
anyway. The official receiver can only step in and do this
with the Treasury’s underwriting, and we deemed it
appropriate to give that underwriting.
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(Airdrie and Shotts)
(SNP)
Clearly there is an element of risk in not just Government
borrowing, but companies’ borrowing against the UK
Government. Will the Chancellor advise the House on what
exposure his Government have from lending to Carillion via
the likes of UK Export Finance or ’s direct lending
scheme?
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Mr Hammond
I am not aware of any direct exposure of Her Majesty’s
Government as a creditor of Carillion, but I will check,
write to the hon. Gentleman and place a copy of the letter
in the Library of the House.
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Mr (Kettering)
(Con)
The Government have made good progress in cutting the
deficit, but national debt as a percentage of GDP remains
at a dangerously high level and will only start to reduce
next year—10 years after the crash. Will the Chancellor
share with the House how our level of national debt to GDP
compares with that of other major western economies?
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Mr Hammond
My hon. Friend is right. Our level of debt is too high, and
there is a reason why that matters. In response to the
financial crisis in 2009, the then Government were able to
allow debt to rise. If we had a similar crisis now—God
forbid—we would be struggling to be able to do that,
because debt is already very close to 90% of GDP. It is
urgently necessary that we get our debt level down to
create the headroom that will enable us to deal with any
crisis that comes along in the future, whether internal or
external.
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(Stalybridge and
Hyde) (Lab/Co-op)
It is amazing that the Government should want to plant
questions about high levels of borrowing, given that they
have missed every single one of their deficit reduction
targets, and let us not forget that this Conservative
Government have borrowed more than any Labour Government in
history. Under Labour’s fiscal rules, we would close the
deficit on day-to-day spending over five years, but exclude
investment spending from that figure. Given the huge
challenges that the country faces in relation to
productivity, infrastructure and skills—challenges that he
has already mentioned—does the Chancellor not recognise
that that is a prudent and sensible way forward?
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Mr Hammond
No, and neither do the Opposition. That is why they have
already recognised that their plans would deliver the run
on the pound for which they are wargaming. I will take no
lectures from a party that oversaw a 165% increase in debt,
and is proposing to add a further £500 billion to our debt
level just when the Government are delivering a reduction
in debt.
Household Debt
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(Stretford and Urmston)
(Lab)
6. What recent assessment his Department has made of trends
in the level of household debt since 2010. [903297]
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The Economic Secretary to the Treasury (John Glen)
The household debt-to-income ratio has fallen from 152% at
the start of 2010 to 138% in the third quarter of 2017. It
has remained significantly below its pre-crisis peak of
160% in the first quarter of 2008. I also note today’s
report from the Institute for Fiscal Studies on the same
subject.
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I, too, have read the IFS report, which points out that
debt is a real problem for a significant minority of
low-income householders who are struggling to pay the bills
and make debt repayments. Does the Minister accept that
imposing a freeze on benefits when inflation is standing at
3% will make things even tougher for those families?
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The report also points out that the percentage of
households with financial liabilities in the four lowest
wealth quintiles fell between June 2010 and June 2014. The
Government are fully committed to helping the poorest
households, and just last year the Money Advice Service
spent £49 million on giving 440,000 free-to-client sessions
to assist those in difficulty.
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(Preseli Pembrokeshire)
(Con)
The UK has the second highest level of household debt in
the G8. On our high streets, loan sharks are masquerading
as household goods stores. Does the Minister agree that we
have a rather unhealthy addiction to consumer debt in this
country?
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My right hon. Friend makes a sensible point. The Government
have empowered the independent Financial Policy Committee
to advise them on these matters, and to keep a close watch
on the level of debt.
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(Chesterfield)
(Lab)
20. One trend that alarms me is the false advertising of
consumer credit rates. Despite having a perfect credit
rating, according to Experian, I was told that M&S Bank
would not give me the advertised rate that was supposedly
being offered to 51% of its customers. What is the Minister
doing to ensure that the Financial Conduct Authority is
robust in ensuring that advertised rates are made available
to the majority of consumers? [903313]
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I am familiar with the hon. Gentleman’s situation and his
correspondence with the Financial Conduct Authority. I
believe that he has met FCA representatives. The FCA has
strong powers to ban products. It has unlimited fines at
its disposal and it can order repayments. As the hon.
Gentleman knows, 51% of applicants for loans will receive
the advertised rate, and those are the terms that the FCA
works to.
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Sir (New Forest West)
(Con)
When will incentives to save exceed those to borrow?
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Obviously I do not have a crystal ball, and as the economy
grows, different patterns of behaviour will ensue. It is
not for the Government to tell people what to do; we are
trying to secure a growing economy in which people have the
choice.
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(Aberdeen North)
(SNP)
Personal debt is the biggest worry for many people I meet.
The figures released by the Institute for Fiscal Studies
today show that a third of those on the lowest incomes are
in net debt. This debt is persistent; it is a spiral that
people get stuck in for years. What are the UK Government
doing to improve the financial position of households with
the lowest incomes?
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We recognise that on occasions people find themselves in
challenging debt situations. That is why we committed in
our manifesto to a six-week breathing space, and we will
bring that legislation forward in due course in the
Financial Guidance and Claims Bill.
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Over a third of people aged under 45 live in households
with a financial wealth of less than zero. For too many
people there is not enough money at the end of each month
or each week. From next year individuals earning less than
£26,000 in England will pay more income tax than they would
if they lived in Scotland; how can the Minister justify
that?
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The Government recognise the challenges facing those on
lower salaries, which is why we have increased the tax-free
allowance, have had the eighth successive fuel duty freeze,
and have increased the national living wage above the
inflation rate.
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(Witney) (Con)
Will the Minister confirm that the lowest paid have had a
real-terms pay increase of 7% since 2015, showing that this
Government’s policies are targeted to help the lowest paid?
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My hon. Friend is right. The Government do not take
anything for granted and will look very closely at what is
happening with the poorest in our society.
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(Oxford East)
(Lab/Co-op)
Does the Minister acknowledge that the reasons why a
quarter of people on low incomes are currently experiencing
significant problems with arrears or debt repayment
include, first, his Government not taking on board Labour’s
programme to rein in credit card debt and, secondly, the
fact that their changes to the tax threshold have been
outweighed for the poorest people by alterations to social
security?
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The hon. Lady needs to acknowledge the transformation that
the national living wage has brought to so many people and
this Government’s willingness to increase it above
inflation. It is also worth noting that interest payments
as a proportion of income are currently at the lowest on
record.
UK Internal Market
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(Brecon and Radnorshire)
(Con)
7. What assessment he has made of the contribution of the
UK internal market to the Scottish and Welsh economies.
[903298]
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The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr Philip Hammond)
The UK internal market benefits all the nations of the UK.
The Scottish Government’s own latest figures indicate that
63% of Scotland’s exports are to the rest of the UK,
compared with 16% that go to the EU, and for Wales it is
80% compared with 12%. Stakeholders across Wales and
Scotland have made it clear that it is vital that we
continue to support the smooth working of the UK internal
market, and it is therefore essential that no new barriers
to living and doing business in the UK are created as we
leave the EU.
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I thank my right hon. Friend the Chancellor for his answer,
and does he agree that leaving the UK single market would
pose a far greater risk to the Welsh, Scottish and Northern
Ireland economies than leaving the EU single market?
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Mr Hammond
Yes, it is absolutely true that for both Scotland and Wales
leaving the UK single market would be far more economically
damaging than leaving the European single market, which
begs the question why the Scottish National party has
advocated so strongly remaining in the European single
market and also advocated so strongly breaking up the UK
single market.
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Mr Speaker
Order. I am not very interested in hearing that, which has
nothing to do with Government policy, but I am interested
in hearing . I hope the Chancellor
will take note: put very briefly, Chancellor, “Stick to
your last—your business, not theirs.”
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(Ilford North)
(Lab)
Thank you, Mr Speaker, that is the nicest thing anyone is
likely to say to me today.
The Chancellor rightly extols the benefits of the UK single
market, but is not the rank hypocrisy of the Government
exposed by listening to the comments of the chief executive
of Airbus last night that leaving the European single
market would be hugely damaging to the UK economy? We do
not have to pick and choose: why will the Chancellor not
put a jobs first Brexit at the heart of the Government
Brexit strategy and commit to keeping us in the European
single market?
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Mr Hammond
The hon. Gentleman will know that I have been arguing for
the last year for a jobs-first, prosperity-first Brexit,
which means negotiating the closest possible relationship
with the EU after we leave that union, and that is what we
intend to do.
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(Ceredigion) (PC)
The contribution of the UK internal market is of course
important to the economy of Wales. Under Westminster rule,
the economy of London and the south-east of England has
steamed ahead while Wales remains one of the poorest
nations in western Europe. Will the Chancellor commit to
ending this rank inequality by rebalancing the UK internal
market to ensure that it is not based on a set of
Westminster diktats but is rather a partnership of the four
nations of the UK?
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Mr Hammond
Yes, we have identified regional disparity as one of the
drivers of low productivity in the UK. Raising the
productivity performance, particularly that of our great
cities outside London, is key to raising UK’s performance
overall.
Public Spending: Wales
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(Carmarthen East and
Dinefwr) (PC)
8. What assessment he has made of the effect of autumn
Budget 2017 on public spending in Wales. [903299]
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The Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury (Robert
Jenrick)
Decisions announced by the Chancellor in the autumn Budget
resulted in an increase of £1.2 billion to the Welsh
Government’s budget. For the first time, this included more
than £65 million thanks to the new Barnett boost agreed
with the Welsh Government’s fiscal framework. This ensures
that the Welsh Government’s block grant will increase in
real terms over the spending review period.
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The headline-grabbing announcement in the Budget was the
alleged £1.2 billion uplift to the Welsh public finances,
which the Minister has just repeated in his answer. It was
an example of financial trickery best suited to the Foreign
Secretary’s big red buses. Is it not the case that more
than half that money will be in the form of repayable
loans—in other words, financial transactions?
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I do not agree with the hon. Gentleman’s analysis or with
his slightly cavalier attitude to £650 million of
taxpayers’ money. This money is at the disposal of the
Welsh Government and can be used for important things such
as helping to support businesses and helping people to get
on to the property ladder through Help to Buy.
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(Lichfield)
(Con)
Given that the tolls on the Severn crossing went down last
week for the first time ever, there is going to be greater
demand for use of the M4. However, since 2012 the Labour
Welsh Government have done nothing about using the public
money available to them to extend the M4. Is it not the
case that public money should be spent on that, and that it
has been made available to Wales from this Government?
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My hon. Friend makes a good point. As I said in my answer
to the previous question, we have increased the budget for
the Welsh Government. How they choose to spend that money,
and how wisely they do that, is another question.
Employment
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Mr (Isle of Wight)
(Con)
9. What progress is being made on creating jobs and
reducing unemployment. [903300]
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(Mid Dorset and
North Poole) (Con)
12. What progress is being made on creating jobs and
reducing unemployment. [903304]
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The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Elizabeth Truss)
The unemployment rate is now the lowest since 1975, and 3
million more people are in jobs than in 2010. What that
means is that they have the ability to use their talents to
support their families and to get on in life.
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Mr Seely
Will my right hon. Friend and the Treasury team work with
me and the Isle of Wight Council to explore how the Island
could benefit from a Treasury-supported enterprise zone in
the Medina valley or from other regeneration policies that
would help to drive the jobs and wealth creation agenda on
the Isle of Wight?
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My hon. Friend has done a fantastic job of championing the
Isle of Wight since 2010, and we have seen a 55% reduction
in unemployment on the Island. There are many issues that
we need to address to ensure that the economy on the Island
is competitive and dynamic. The Isle of Wight ferry is a
vital service, and we need to ensure that the Competition
and Markets Authority has the tools to deal with that. I
would be very happy to meet my hon. Friend to talk about
what more we can do to boost the Isle of Wight.
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I am the chairman of the all-party parliamentary group for
youth employment, and each month we track the jobs figures.
Will my right hon. Friend update the House on the impact of
this very welcome job creation on poverty levels and
welfare dependency since 2010?
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I congratulate my hon. Friend on his work. Since 2010, we
have seen a 40% reduction in youth unemployment. Let us
compare that with what happened under the Labour Government
when, during an economic boom, youth unemployment rose and
those young people were left on the scrapheap rather than
joining apprenticeships and getting the training
opportunities that they have under this Government.
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Mrs (South Shields)
(Lab)
Here is a reality check for the Minister. Limited well-paid
jobs and record levels of in-work poverty coupled with this
Government’s unflinching assault on the welfare safety net
have contributed to the United Nations estimating that 8
million households in the UK are food insecure. My
cost-neutral household Food Security Bill will robustly
measure these factors and lead to policy development that
will eradicate hunger. Why will her Government not back it?
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I am surprised that the hon. Lady is not interested in the
news we heard earlier, which is that those on the lowest
incomes have seen a 7% real-terms pay rise since 2015,
enabling them to support their families.
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Mr (East
Londonderry) (DUP)
Does the Chief Secretary agree that one of the best ways of
creating employment is to simplify tax structures to help
small and medium-sized enterprises to create employment
right across the United Kingdom?
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The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. This Government
have cut red tape and taxes. We have cut basic rate tax by
£1,000 for working people, which has encouraged more people
to get jobs and more companies to take people on. That is
why we are seeing economic success.
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(Cleethorpes)
(Con)
Transport for the North has today published its strategic
plan, which forecasts 850,000 new jobs if the plan is
delivered. Although the document is disappointing for
Cleethorpes and northern Lincolnshire, broadly speaking
more investment in transport in the north will provide
those jobs. Will the Minister give an assurance that
resources will be made available to deliver the plan?
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I am pleased to say that we are investing a record amount
in economic infrastructure, and the Institute for Fiscal
Studies said that such investment would be at a 40-year
high by the end of this Parliament. We are giving money to
improve transport in towns and cities, allocating £1.7
billion for that purpose at the Budget.
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(Hayes and Harlington)
(Lab)
Thousands of Carillion workers will turn up to work
tomorrow unsure of whether they have a job, and they may
not appreciate Conservative boasts about employment today.
The workers face cuts to their pensions, and hundreds of
small firms along the supply chain are also uncertain about
their futures. The traditional role of the Treasury is to
protect our public finances, so will the Minister explain
to the House what involvement the Treasury had in the
billions of pounds of contracts held by Carillion at the
time of its liquidation? We know that Treasury approval is
required for PFI contracts, so will she tell the House how
many PFI and PF2 contracts were signed by the Treasury
during the current Chancellor’s time in office? What will
happen to those projects and to the staff working on them?
When there were loud and clear worrying signs about
Carillion, why did Treasury Ministers, instead of
intervening, collude in the strategy of drip-feeding more
contracts to Carillion to buoy up an obviously failing
company?
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What has happened at Carillion is regrettable, which is why
we are ensuring that the people employed by Carillion have
support from jobcentres and why our No. 1 priority is
ensuring that we continue to supply public services.
However, it would be completely wrong for a company that
got itself in such a state to be bailed out by the state,
and we are not doing that. We are making sure that we
continue to supply public services at the same time as
helping the people who work for the company.
If we look at the record of contracting, a third of those
contracts were signed under the previous Labour Government,
and one of the most recent contracts was signed by the
Labour-led Leeds City Council. The fact is that we have £60
billion of contracts with private sector companies that
deliver public services across this country, which is an
important way of delivering our public services. When there
is an issue, as we have had with Carillion, we have made
the preparations, and we are sorting out the situation.
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We are asking questions about when it was obvious that this
company was failing and what the Treasury’s role was. I put
it no stronger than this: at this stage, there are real
suspicions that the Government were too close to the
company and too wedded to its privatisation role. We need
full transparency on the meetings and discussions that took
place between Ministers, civil servants and representatives
of Carillion. What warnings were given to Ministers and
what action was recommended, whether it was implemented or
not? We need the Treasury to start playing its proper role
and to provide an independent assessment of the potential
costs and risks facing the taxpayer. As has already been
mentioned, a Cabinet Office minute was published after the
statement yesterday that established a contingent
liability. We urgently need to know from the Treasury about
the potential range of costs now facing the taxpayer.
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We already publish all those minutes and details of
meetings. We are a transparent Government, and we make
decisions in an objective fashion. Those decisions are
signed off by the Treasury, and they are signed off by the
Cabinet Office. Recent decisions on Carillion contracts
have been made on the basis of joint and several liability
to make sure the taxpayer is protected. We always look for
value for money in the way we set up our contracts. The
Government are dealing with this in a responsible and
measured way, rather than making cheap political shots at a
time when people’s jobs are in question and when we are
working to sort that out.
Education Investment
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(Redditch) (Con)
11. What discussions he has had with the Secretary of State
for Education on the effect of Government investment in
education on pupil outcomes since 2010. [903303]
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The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Elizabeth Truss)
We are investing a record £41 billion in our schools this
year. For the first time ever, we are putting in place a
fair national funding formula. We are seeing standards
rising. In the recent Progress in International Reading
Literacy Study, we saw England score its highest ever score
in reading.
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Thanks to the incredible hard work of staff, children and
parents in Redditch, 92% of our secondary schools are
currently rated outstanding. Receiving a great education in
maths is critical to equipping children in Redditch for
future jobs in the economy. What financial support is the
Treasury giving to enable our children in Redditch to have
that education?
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right that maths is vital for
the future of our economy. We know there is huge demand for
people with science, technology, engineering and maths
skills, which is why at the Budget we allocated a £600
maths premium that schools will receive for every student
who does maths from age 16 to 18.
Corporate Tax Evasion
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(Amber Valley)
(Con)
13. What progress he has made on reducing the level of
corporate tax evasion and the tax gap. [903305]
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The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mel Stride)
The Government have an outstanding record on clamping down
on tax avoidance, evasion and non-compliance. We have
brought in and protected £160 billion since 2010, and no
less than £8 billion in 2016-17 alone, from the UK’s
largest companies. Currently at 6%, the tax gap is one of
the lowest in the world, and lower than any year during the
last Labour Government.
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Does the Minister agree that an international approach is
needed to really tackle tax evasion by big multinational
companies? Will he therefore say whether the interesting
ideas on which he has consulted since the Budget have found
favour in his discussions with the OECD and may be adopted
on a more international basis?
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As my hon. Friend will know, we are right at the forefront
of the OECD’s base erosion and profit shifting project, and
of the common reporting standards that are being rolled out
at the moment. We have taken further measures in the Budget
to consult on the taxation of digitally based companies,
particularly in respect of withholding tax on royalties
going to zero-tax or low-tax jurisdictions. That
consultation will report back in February, and we will take
an appropriate decision thereafter.
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(Wolverhampton North
East) (Lab)
It is embarrassing for the Government that Carillion’s
chairman is an adviser to the Prime Minister on corporate
responsibility. Given the level of salaries and bonuses
awarded to senior management at Carillion, as well as
improving the response to corporate tax evasion what will
the Government do to ensure better corporate governance in
UK companies?
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I say gently to the hon. Lady that she needs to check her
facts, because the current head of Carillion is not an
adviser to the Prime Minister. There was an appointment
earlier that was terminated some months ago. As to her
general points about corporate governance, this country has
among the most robust corporate governance in the world,
which is something this Government will continue.
Leaving the EEA
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(Aberavon)
(Lab)
14. What assessment his Department has made of the effect
of the UK leaving the European Economic Area on the economy
and the service industry. [903306]
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The Economic Secretary to the Treasury (John Glen)
The Government have undertaken a significant amount of work
to assess the economic impacts of leaving the EU, and that
is part of our continuing programme of rigorous and
extensive analytical work on a range of scenarios. The
Government are committed to keeping Parliament informed,
provided that doing so would not risk damaging our
negotiating position.
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The Chancellor has said that he wants a jobs-first Brexit.
Given that 80% of the British economy is in the services
sector, and given that the EEA-based model of Brexit is the
only one that gives maximum access for our services
industries, does the Minister agree that an EEA-based
Brexit is the only viable option for our country?
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What we can agree is that the Government are united in
working to secure the best and most ambitious Brexit deal.
That will mean a bespoke deal that will not damage the
long-term interests of the economy.
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(Loughborough)
(Con)
First, I welcome the Minister to his place in the Treasury.
I am sure he will do an excellent job.
Is it not impossible to assess the impact of leaving,
whether we are talking about the European economic area or
the European Union, without knowing where we are headed? It
is time for the Government to be clear about the end state
of negotiations on financial services. I would like to see
them publishing a position paper on financial services,
particularly one informed by the meeting between the Prime
Minister and the Chancellor last week.
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I am extremely grateful to my right hon. Friend, the Chair
of the Select Committee, for that. I am aware of her
previous exchanges with the Chancellor, who has undertaken
to look at this issue. I will be working with him and we
will respond in due course.
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(Wirral South)
(Lab)
Academic assessments by the Treasury are crucial, but my
constituents are reeling from hundreds of job losses at
Vauxhall. Last night’s comments by the chief executive
officer of Airbus that whatever Brexit we have, it will be
net negative, means we are talking again about hundreds of
my constituents’ jobs on the line. I plead with the
Minister to take this seriously, keep us in the single
market and customs union, and keep my constituents in their
jobs.
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I assure the hon. Lady that I take this very seriously, and
the Government’s intention certainly is to negotiate a deep
and special partnership on economic and security matters.
There is room for positivity; if we look at what GSK,
Google and Apple have said, we see that that attitude of
positivity and optimism as we look forward is necessary.
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(Morley and Outwood)
(Con)
Does my hon. Friend agree that since deciding to leave the
EU this Government have overseen record jobs, with quarter
4 figures for 2017 showing improved productivity? Does he
agree that Britain’s best years lie ahead?
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The negotiations that this country faces are complex, but I
will take an optimistic approach to all the discussions
that I undertake at the Treasury and elsewhere going
forward.
Topical Questions
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(South Basildon and
East Thurrock) (Con)
T1. If he will make a statement on his departmental
responsibilities. [903315]
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The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr Philip Hammond)
My principal responsibility is to ensure the stability and
prosperity of the economy, which means building on the
ambitious steps laid out in the autumn Budget to tackle the
key challenges we face so that we can create an economy fit
for the future. I look forward to doing so, ably supported
by my excellent ministerial team. Our balanced approach to
the public finances enables us to give households and
businesses support in the near term, and to invest in the
future of this country, while also being fair to the next
generation by reducing a national debt that remains too
large.
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Does my right hon. Friend agree that lowering business
taxes, as this Government have done, is not a race to the
bottom but is vital in building and maintaining the strong
economy on which we all depend?
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Mr Hammond
Yes, I agree with my hon. Friend. Keeping business taxes
competitive so that we can attract international investment
to this country is essential, but there is a quid pro quo:
if taxes are low, they must be paid. We are determined to
ensure full compliance and to lead in international forums
in looking at ways of improving corporate tax compliance.
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(Bootle) (Lab)
The NHS is in crisis due to the tight-fisted approach the
Chancellor takes to the public finances—unless a big
corporation, a railway company or a failing construction
firm needs a handout or a bail-out. During any discussions
he has had with the Health Secretary, has he raised the
issue of the funding crisis? If so, what solution has he
arrived at to fund it properly, or will he be sending in
the receiver?
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Mr Hammond
The hon. Gentleman may not have noticed but we have put an
extra £6 billion into the NHS. The first two weeks of the
year are traditionally the highest pressure weeks in the
NHS, and we have seen extreme pressure over the past two
weeks. He may also not have noticed that we have a flu
crisis going on, which inevitably takes its toll. In an
ethically-based health service, we treat the sickest
patients first, and it is right that we prioritise those
with urgent needs over those with routine needs in our
hospitals.
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That was an insouciant attitude, if ever there was one. The
Chancellor’s local media report that the A&E department
in St Peter’s Hospital in Chertsey in his constituency had
the highest number of 12-hour waits for patients in Surrey
at the start of last year. What imaginative explanation
does he have for his constituents, if not the whole House,
as to why they, like many others, have to wait for so long
to get emergency treatment? I ask again: what substantive
funding will he provide to the NHS?
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Mr Hammond
The answer to that is the £6 billion of additional money
that we put in at the Budget. I am glad that the hon.
Gentleman raised St Peter’s Hospital in my constituency,
because that gives me the opportunity to make an important
point. As other Members will know, whatever the media say
about the NHS in general, when one speaks to one’s own
constituents about their experience in their local
hospital, it is invariably good and they invariably have
nothing but praise for the service that they receive from
our excellent national health service.
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Sir (East Devon) (Con)
T8. The cost of the backlog of repairs to our historic
buildings is now estimated to stand at an alarming £1.3
billion, in large part because of the changes to VAT levied
on repairs. Will my right hon. Friend show that, as a
Conservative, he genuinely believes in conservation and
that something will be left standing for future generations
to enjoy? [903323]
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The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mel Stride)
I certainly agree with my right hon. Friend’s assertion of
the importance of our heritage, which was recognised when
last year the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and
Sport gave grants of more than £140 million in that
respect. On VAT relief for repairs to historic buildings,
the situation as currently pertains to EU regulations is
that if we were to make changes or reductions, we would
have to apply them to all buildings in the UK, at onerous
cost, but that is something we can look into as and when we
leave the EU.
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(Dewsbury) (Lab)
T2. The tampon tax fund gave a quarter of a million pounds
to an anti-abortion group, so we are being taxed on our
bodies to pay for people who do not think we should have
control over them. Will the Minister look again at setting
aside much-needed funds to tackle period poverty instead?
[903316]
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As the hon. Lady will know, we have committed to zero-rate
tampons at the earliest opportunity. The fact that we are
not doing that at the moment is due to our membership of
the EU. She will also know that we are providing to women’s
charities an amount equivalent to what we raise through
taxing tampons.
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(Mid Worcestershire)
(Con)
The Chancellor will be aware that Government debt per
household is around £65,000. Another name for that debt is
deferred taxation. Does the Chancellor agree that the best
way to increase tax revenue and reduce our debt is to grow
the economy, which is exactly what we are doing?
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Mr Hammond
Yes. There are two ways to get our debt falling as a
percentage of GDP. By far the easiest way, and the most
agreeable way for our constituents, is to grow the economy
so that the denominator shrinks.
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(East Ham) (Lab)
T3. Together with the Department for Work and Pensions, Her
Majesty’s Revenue and Customs has a Late, Missing and
Incorrect initiative to look into the problems with
real-time pay-as-you-earn information—problems that may
well explain many of the errors we see in universal credit
awards. The Financial Secretary gave me a helpful answer on
this topic in October. What progress has he made on
quantifying those three problems—late, missing and
incorrect—and what hopes does he have for the improvement
of RTI quality? [903318]
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As the right hon. Gentleman will know, the Late, Missing
and Incorrect initiative is there to drive up the accuracy
of the real-time information as it passes between employers
and HMRC. As he stresses, it is important to ensuring that
universal credit is rolled out effectively. On his specific
question about statistics, we believe that the level is
around 5% or 6% across those three areas. We are
continuously driving down those figures, particularly in
response to the post-implementation review.
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(Stafford) (Con)
The European Free Trade Association, of which the UK was a
founder member, would provide an excellent framework from
within which to exercise a deep and special partnership
with the EU. Would Her Majesty’s Government consider that
as a sound way forward?
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Mr Hammond
As my hon. Friend knows, we are seeking a bespoke vehicle
for a deep and special partnership, and we are certainly
prepared to look into any constructive suggestion from any
part of the House.
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(Hove) (Lab)
T4. Last night, the chief executive of Airbus said that
every Brexit scenario that is currently on the table will
weaken British industry. Is the Chancellor listening?
[903319]
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Mr Hammond
Yes. We engage frequently with industry and our No. 1
priority is obviously to ensure that we protect the UK
economy as we exit the EU. In fact, as a manufacturer of
aviation equipment, which has a zero EU tariff, Airbus
should be relatively minimally affected. Nevertheless, I
think the company’s particular concern is about the ability
to bring EU nationals into the UK to work, and we have
assured it that we will make sure that high-skilled
individuals can continue to come.
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(Carlisle) (Con)
I appreciate that the next stages of the negotiations with
Europe are about to start, and what we want to see is a
good deal for industry, business and the service sector.
Does the Chancellor agree that membership of the European
Free Trade Association could offer that opportunity for us?
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Mr Hammond
Membership of the European Economic Area, which EFTA would
entail, involves under current rules compliance with the
four freedoms, and that means free movement of people,
which the British people rejected in the referendum in
2016.
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(Rochdale) (Lab)
T5. With Carillion now the poster child for dodgy market
capitalism, what duty does the Treasury owe to the wider
public to prevent Government spending Ministers from
engaging in inappropriate contracts, and what steps did the
Treasury take? [903320]
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The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Elizabeth Truss)
We have very clear rules about managing public money. Let
me point out to the hon. Gentleman that we are not bailing
out this company. It has gone into liquidation, and we are
taking the proper steps to protect public services, which
is the right approach to take.
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(Cheltenham) (Con)
Since 2010, unemployment in Cheltenham has fallen to just
over 1%. Does my right hon. Friend agree that, to secure
that jobs pipeline, the Government are right to continue
backing Cheltenham’s GCHQ-supported cyber-innovation
centre, which is creating opportunities for my
constituents?
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I completely agree with my hon. Friend. I am shortly due to
visit the centre in Cheltenham and I look forward to seeing
him there.
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(Bedford) (Lab)
T6. The East of England Ambulance Service experienced its
busiest ever Christmas, and it had to rely on taxis to take
patients to the hospitals. At least one patient died while
waiting for an ambulance. How much worse does it have to
get before this Government can meet the funding needed by
the East of England Ambulance Service so that it can
operate safely and efficiently? [903321]
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It is important to note that we have 2.9 million more people
visiting A&E than we had in 2010. That is why, as well as
making sure that we are putting in place a proper
modernisation to the health service, we are also investing
more money, and we allocated £6.3 billion more at the Budget.
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(Loughborough) (Con)
There are many small and medium-sized enterprises in the
Carillion supply chain, as both contractors and direct
suppliers. What discussions will the Government have with Her
Majesty’s Revenue and Customs and other businesses to make
sure that these companies are able to continue to pay the tax
liabilities and their employees?
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Mr Hammond
HMRC already has a scheme that can assist companies that are
finding cash-flow difficulties in meeting tax liabilities. We
agreed last night that HMRC will specifically signpost, via
the Carillion-specific websites that are operating, that that
facility exists.
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(Manchester, Gorton)
(Lab)
T7. Greater Manchester police has faced eight years of
real-terms cuts and has lost 2,000 officers. Week after week,
constituents come to my surgery in deep distress over
antisocial behaviour, muggings and burglaries to which the
police cannot attend. As a former police officer myself, I
know that they are doing the best that they can. Will the
Minister commit to giving more funding for Greater Manchester
police? [903322]
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The hon. Gentleman will have noticed that, in the draft local
government settlement, we have given police authorities the
power to raise additional precept to be able to deal with
those issues. Ultimately, it is a decision for Greater
Manchester police.
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(Harborough) (Con)
The current funding formula for local government is opaque,
historic and disadvantages Leicestershire. Does the Minister
agree that it would be attractive to move to a transparent
formula based on the real drivers of costs?
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Mr Hammond
As my hon. Friend knows, the Government are committed to
introducing a fair funding formula, and my right hon. Friend,
the Secretary of State, has committed to move forward with
that programme this year.
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Dr (Central Ayrshire)
(SNP)
T9. Yesterday saw the successful Second Reading of the Space
Industry Bill, which could see Prestwick in my constituency
become the UK’s first spaceport, but the Ayrshire growth deal
is central to ensuring the widest economic impact from that
development. The three local authorities and the Scottish
Government are backing it, so will the Chancellor now commit
to the Ayrshire growth deal? [903324]
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I can assure the hon. Lady that I am in regular discussions
with the Secretary of State for Scotland about the growth
deals across Scotland. We have already committed to a number
of growth deals and are certainly looking at further ones.
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Mr Speaker
We are very time constrained today. One sentence—.
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(Brentwood and Ongar)
(Con)
Will the Minister welcome the fact that UK manufacturing is
at an eight-year high?
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Mr Hammond
Yes.
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(Gedling) (Lab)
Councils such as Gedling Borough Council and Nottinghamshire
County Council are setting their budgets now, and they face a
funding crisis. What are the Government going to do about it?
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We have given councils the power to raise more funds in the
draft local government finance settlement, but councils also
need to look at how they can become more efficient, share
back offices and use modern technology.
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(Corby) (Con)
Unemployment in my constituency is down by over 50%, but will
my right hon. Friend consider a new round of enterprise zone
bidding opportunities to help further that success story?
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Mr Hammond
We will give consideration to my hon. Friend’s suggestion.
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(Leeds Central) (Lab)
Will the Chancellor clarify whether the terms of the public
sector private finance initiative contracts with Carillion
allow for those contracts to be sold on to other private
companies in the event of liquidation?
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Mr Hammond
My understanding is that the contracts that are strictly PFI
contracts are actually in joint ventures. In that case, it is
most likely that the joint venture partner will take over.
There are outsourcing contracts that, in theory, could be
sold on, but as the Government Department, as the contracting
party, will invariably have a right to cancel the contract on
the insolvency of the company, in practice it will not be
able to be sold on by the official receiver without the
agreement of the contracting Department.
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