Israel and Palestinian Talks 4.03 pm The Minister for
the Middle East (Alistair Burt) I beg to move, That
this House has considered Israel and Palestinian talks.
Looking around the Chamber, I am conscious that, first, a great
many colleagues want to speak in the debate, and, secondly, there
is a...Request free trial
Israel and Palestinian Talks
4.03 pm
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The Minister for the Middle East (Alistair Burt)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered Israel and Palestinian
talks.
Looking around the Chamber, I am conscious that, first, a
great many colleagues want to speak in the debate, and,
secondly, there is a great deal of knowledge about this
subject in the House. Accordingly, I do not intend to speak
for long at this stage, on the basis that that will give me
more time at the end of the debate in which to respond to
some of the questions that are bound to be asked.
Having knocked around this issue for about 30 years—as some
other Members in the Chamber have done—I know that many
aspects of it are well known to us, and that restating them
would probably be less effective than dealing with
questions and looking at current issues, which is what I
intend to do. I hope that the House will forgive me if I do
not cover everything in my opening speech. No offence is
intended, but I shall have a little more time to deal with
the major questions when I respond to the debate.
I am very pleased to have the opportunity to discuss this
important issue. A just and lasting settlement between
Israelis and Palestinians that resolves the elements of
conflict between them and delivers peace for all their
peoples is long overdue and desired by friends of both all
over the world. A lasting peace between the Israelis and
Palestinians will only come about through a two-state
solution negotiated between the parties, and that is the
United Kingdom’s position.
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(Stratford-on-Avon)
(Con)
I welcome my right hon. Friend to his rightful place on the
Front Bench. Does he agree that one of the tragedies of
this conflict is that for many years both sides have seemed
to know what a deal looks like but, sadly, have never got
there? One of the views in the middle east region is that
that is in part because Hamas can never agree with Abu
Mazen. Indeed, some will say that Hamas does not want a
peace deal because it does not suit their interests.
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There are many blockages on the way to peace, and a number
of them will come up during the course of this debate.
Hamas’s inability to accept the existence of the state of
Israel is plainly one of them, and there are plenty more.
As my hon. Friend said, it is a long-standing tragedy that
the broad outlines of what many of us consider to be a deal
are available and known, but the steps needed to convert
that into action have not yet been taken.
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Mr (Coventry South)
(Lab)
What discussions have the Government had with the Israeli
Government about the extension of the settlements in
Jerusalem? More importantly, what discussions have our
Government had about sanctions?
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If I am able to pursue my original course of action of
putting a few things on record and then dealing with
subsequent questions, settlements will inevitably come up.
I would like to deal with that issue then.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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I will take two more interventions for now.
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(Hornsey and Wood
Green) (Lab)
I congratulate the right hon. Gentleman on his elevation to
the Front Bench once again. What is his view of some of the
peace builders, in particular the ecumenical visitors who
accompany various groups between both parties and attempt
to build bridges?
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Again, I will come on to issues such as two-track
possibilities. Many people have a contribution to make. One
of the agonies of the situation is that so many people urge
good will and want a resolution, yet there are blockages
that prevent that from happening. However, everyone with
good intent is welcome into the process.
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(Brigg and Goole)
(Con)
I also welcome my right hon. Friend back—again, again—to
the Front Bench. It is good to see him back at the Foreign
and Commonwealth Office, too.
This debate too often becomes polarised, so may we from the
outset establish that in all things this debate should be
reasonable? Will my right hon. Friend therefore condemn the
recent march in London under the banner of Hezbollah flags
and also some of the pillorying of those of us who consider
ourselves to be supporters of the state of Israel, as
critical friends? During the general election campaign, a
supporter of the Leader of the Opposition screamed the name
of the right hon. Member for Islington North (Jeremy
Corbyn) in my face, and then proceeding to describe me as
“Israeli scum” and “Zionist scum” because of the simple
fact that I list myself as a friend of Israel—I would say
that I am also a friend of the Palestinian people. That
sort of behaviour is completely unacceptable.
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I thank my hon. Friend for his remarks. Sadly, as Members
on both sides of the House have pointed out, extremism of
language and a deliberate design to hurt or belittle those
of different views has become part of our modern political
life and discourse. That sort of language has absolutely no
place on an issue such as this, which is extremely
sensitive and well-balanced, and on which there are strong
views on both sides and deeply ingrained worries and
insecurities about taking steps forward. That language will
never have any place in this House, as we know, but it does
not help the arguments of anyone outside, and nor does it
help any of us to reach out to our friends to try and find
the solution we are looking for.
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(Hertsmere)
(Con)
rose—
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I will take one more intervention, but then I would like to
make some progress.
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I, too, welcome my right hon. Friend to his place.
Further to the interventions of my hon. Friend the Member
for Brigg and Goole (Andrew Percy), many of my constituents
were deeply upset and offended to see the flag of Hezbollah
flying on the streets of London at the recent al-Quds
rally. What can the Government do to stop this
representation of a Jew-hating terrorist organisation? Can
anything be done to ban that hateful organisation in this
country altogether?
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For the avoidance of doubt, and to assist colleagues
speaking later, I am very pleased to be back at the
Dispatch Box. I appreciate and am very grateful for so many
kind comments. It is debates such as this that remind me
exactly what I have got myself back into.
The military arm of Hezbollah is proscribed in the United
Kingdom and we have no contact with its political wing. I
saw the pictures of flags belonging to Hezbollah that
portrayed arms and had a little sticker that was designed
to deflect legal action. I am not acting as a lawyer here,
and I do not know whether carrying those flags with that
sticker is against the law—that is a matter for the courts.
In the circumstances, however, I cannot see that they add
anything to the debate or enable the people of the United
Kingdom to take a full part in the reasoned and difficult
discussions that we need to have on this issue, no matter
how strongly people feel about it. I am grateful to my hon.
Friend for raising that point.
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(East Ham) (Lab)
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(Halesowen and Rowley
Regis) (Con)
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(Warley) (Lab)
rose—
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I will not give way now.
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rose—
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No. The right hon. Gentleman is a great friend and
colleague who knows a lot about this subject, and I hope he
will get a chance to speak later.
I share the frustration of us all—in the House and
beyond—at the lack of progress on a peace settlement. The
present tragic situation on the ground demonstrates the
urgent need to progress towards peace. We need to see
revived efforts from the Palestinian Authority and the
Israeli Government, and we urge both sides to work together
to meet their obligations under the Oslo accords. Israel
and the Palestinian Authority should do all they can to
reverse the negative trends identified in the report
released by the middle east Quartet on 1 July 2016.
I want to look into some of the blockages and to give a
balanced response to them. First, in relation to the
Palestinian Authority, I continue to welcome President
Abbas’s commitment to a two-state solution. It is important
that the Palestinian leadership should engage with
determination and create the conditions for success. Having
known him for many years, I am sure that he is aware of the
importance of the opportunity provided by President Trump’s
recent engagement with the issue. It is critical, however,
that the Palestinian leadership implements the
recommendations of the Quartet report and continues its
efforts to tackle terror and incitement, to strengthen its
institutions and to develop a sustainable economy.
We in this House must also recognise the damage that the
division between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority does
to the Palestinian body politic. Ultimately, it is the
innocent people of Gaza who have suffered from a decade of
Hamas administration. Hamas faces a fundamental decision
about whether it is prepared to accept the Quartet
principles and join efforts for peace, or if it will
continue to use terror and anti-Semitic incitement, leading
to terrible consequences for the people of Gaza and Israel,
including the failure to close the Palestinian fissure and
therefore to make progress. Gaza must remain a constituent
part of a future Palestinian state with the west bank, and
with East Jerusalem as its capital.
A further barrier to peace with which it is sometimes
difficult for the Palestinian Authority to deal is the
attitude taken towards terrorists and their portrayal as
martyrs. Although the track records of President Abbas and
the Palestinian Authority have shown their genuine
commitment to non-violence and a negotiated two-state
solution, this remains an area of great difficulty.
On the Israeli side, it is important that the Government of
Israel reaffirm their commitment to a two-state solution.
Every Israeli Prime Minister since Ehud Barak in the 1990s
has advocated a two-state solution as the only way to
permanently end the Arab-Israeli conflict and to preserve
Israel’s Jewish and democratic identity. However, there are
now differences of opinion within Israeli society, which
has changed a great deal over 30 years. There are concerns
about security risks from other areas. Polls of Israeli
public opinion show that although everyone wants peace,
seeking a solution to the problems between Israel and the
Palestinians is not always the first item on the political
agenda. There is a real deficit of trust on both sides, and
we encourage all parties to work together to find a lasting
solution.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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I give way to the right hon. Member for East Ham (Stephen
Timms).
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I also welcome the right hon. Gentleman’s reappointment. I
agree that we need Israeli support for the two-state
solution, but does he agree that continued settlement
building risks making two states unviable?
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I am not sure whether the right hon. Gentleman wrote my
speech or had early sight of it, but perhaps I could turn
to the next paragraph before giving way to my hon. Friend
the Member for Halesowen and Rowley Regis (James Morris).
Vital to getting an environment that is conducive to fresh
negotiations is to avoid actions that undermine the
viability of lasting peace. One such action is building
settlements. The United Kingdom’s view is clear and
unchanged: settlement building seriously undermines the
prospects of two states for two peoples. I am extremely
concerned by reports this week of plans to construct more
than 1,800 new housing units in East Jerusalem. In the UK’s
view, all settlements are illegal under international law.
If confirmed, the plans would be the latest example of an
accelerating policy of illegal settlement expansion. That
would take us further away from a two-state solution and
raises serious questions about the Israeli Government’s
commitment to achieving the shared vision of Israel living
side by side with a viable, independent and contiguous
Palestinian state. We have always been clear—I certainly
have—that settlements are far from the only problem in this
conflict, and we have to be careful not to be sidetracked
by one side or the other. It is not about one thing or the
other. That is the problem: there are so many different
things.
The people of Israel deserve to live free from the threat
of terrorism and anti-Semitic incitement, but it has long
been our position that settlement activity is illegal and
that it undermines the viability of two states for two
peoples. We are gravely concerned that an increase in the
pace of settlement construction in East Jerusalem and the
west bank presents a strategic threat to a peaceful
resolution of this conflict. As a strong friend of Israel,
we urge the Israeli Government to show restraint on the
construction of settlements and to avoid steps that reduce
the prospects for peace and security in the region and make
it harder to achieve a different relationship between
Israel and the Arab world.
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(Richmond Park)
(Con)
It is worth noting that recent polling shows that a clear
majority of both Israelis and Palestinians want peace, with
a clear majority in favour of a two-state solution.
However, it is hard to see that happening when Hamas
remains committed to the destruction of Israel. Does my
right hon. Friend agree that Hamas routinely and completely
lets down Palestinian people in their quest for peace?
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My hon. Friend is absolutely correct. I mentioned that
earlier. Peace is very much the desire of the peoples in
the areas concerned, but the awkwardness is how to get
there. I have said before from the Dispatch Box that there
are always 100 reasons to say no, but we have to find the
reasons why people should say yes.
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(Leeds Central)
(Lab)
rose—
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I can think of no one better to do so than the right hon.
Member for Leeds Central (Hilary Benn).
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I am grateful to the Minister for giving way; like everyone
else, I am pleased to see him back in his rightful place.
We have just been debating Northern Ireland, the history of
which has taught us that courageous political leadership
and a willingness to compromise are absolutely essential to
progress. Does he share my view that the absence of such
courageous political leadership on all sides in the current
Israel-Palestine conflict is the biggest obstacle to
bringing about the peace that we all wish to see?
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I think that the right hon. Gentleman suggests that there
is a gap into which courageous leadership should come. It
is certainly true that for every courageous step taken,
there are issues that pull people back, which may
demonstrate that a courageous position might not be well
enough rewarded. Leaving Gaza, for example, has not brought
the swap of land for peace that the Israeli Government
intended when they left. Courageous acts sometimes do not
occur because they may make the situation worse. The
outside world needs to assist in the building of trust, so
that those courageous acts can be taken. There are examples
from both sides of where leaders have been prepared to take
courageous acts, and that is what the situation calls for.
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Will the Minister give way?
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If I may, I will make a little more progress and then look
to finish, otherwise I will not be able to fulfil my
commitment.
Having looked at the Palestinian Authority and the Israeli
Government, a third element is the United States. If there
is one area of the world in which the recently elected
President of the United States is engaged, it is clearly
the middle east and Israel. We welcome his strong
leadership on the issue of middle east peace, as underlined
by his visit to the region. It is incumbent on all parties
to seize whatever new opportunity there may be to move
forward for peace, so we look forward to working with
President Trump and his advisers for a peace deal that
meets the requirement of both parties, reflects our
long-standing support for a two-state solution and takes
the chance being offered by his election to move forward.
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Historically, when a two-state solution has almost been
reached, it has been on the basis of negotiations where
there were no preconditions between either side. That has
to be a fundamental principle. The Minister says he has
been looking at this issue for 30 years. Having no
preconditions leads to a potential two-state solution.
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I agree with my hon. Friend on that. It is not for those of
us from outside to suggest or dictate terms, but it is
clear that if movement is to be made in a situation where
everyone is so very familiar with it, there should be as
few constraints as possible. Having an absence of any
condition before people talk is probably one of those
things that we all know happens behind the scenes, and it
is important that that is recognised.
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(Dewsbury) (Lab)
I visited the region almost two years ago, when one of the
many things that struck me was the detention of child
prisoners in Palestine who are taken through the military
court system. Many allegations of abuse have been made. I
know that the Minister is a very decent man and I hope he
will look at this issue in his role.
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I thank the hon. Lady. Yes, this is an issue on which I
have been long engaged, and discussions are going on with
the Israeli authorities about the holding of children in
military detention. The UK has already expressed its
concern about that, and the hon. Lady can be assured that I
will do so again.
I wish to finish by discussing two more things. First, I
wish to recognise that this is the centenary of the Balfour
declaration. This is a part of our history that divides
opinion in this country and in the region, and we will
treat it sensitively. I do not think it is incompatible to
be proud of the UK’s role in the creation of the state of
Israel and yet to feel sadness that the long-standing
issues between the relative communities created by it have
not yet been resolved. It was a historic statement and the
UK is proud of its role in the creation of Israel, but it
is unfinished business and, accordingly, in this centenary
year we are especially focused on encouraging the Israelis
and the Palestinians to take steps that will bring them
closer to peace.
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(Hendon) (Con)
Does the Minister agree that any recognition of a
Palestinian state before direct peace talks between the two
states, Israel and Palestine, would not only be
counterproductive but would damage a long-term two-state
solution?
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It is not the UK Government’s intention to recognise a
Palestinian state; we believe it should come in due course,
at the conclusion of the talks to settle the issue, and I
do not believe that position is going to change.
I wish to conclude, as the House has been very patient. We
will continue to work through multilateral institutions,
including the United Nations and the European Union, to
support resolutions and policies that encourage both sides
to take steps that rebuild trust, while recognising that it
will eventually only be for the two sides themselves to
bring about success.
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I thank the Lazarus of the Government Front Bench for
giving way! Before he concludes, I hope he will mention and
deal with the extremely unhelpful role of Iran in the
affairs of Israel and of the wider middle east, not least
in this context of Iran’s strong support for Hezbollah and
Hamas. Apropos of that, should we not now call time on this
charade of distinguishing between the military and the
political wing of Hezbollah?
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If the right hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I will perhaps
deal with that issue in my concluding remarks; otherwise, I
will have been unfair to people by going on for too long.
The United Kingdom is also strongly supportive of a
regional approach to peace. The relationship of Arab states
with Israel over a variety of matters means that there has
never been a better time to try to make sure that they are
playing an active part, both in helping to resolve
Palestinian issues and in understanding that their
recognition of Israel and the plugging in of Israel to the
economy of the middle east would have a profound impact
throughout the middle east, where there is a demographic
bulge and where many jobs are going to need to be created.
There are so many good reasons for the situation to be
resolved, and that is one of them. Arab states have a
particular role to play.
In conclusion, we remain committed to encouraging both the
Israelis and the Palestinians to revitalise the peace
process. International action has an important role to
play, but, ultimately, an agreement can be achieved only by
direct negotiation between the parties. Only the Israelis
and the Palestinians can bring about the lasting peace that
their people seek and that is long overdue. I am absolutely
certain that every single one of us in this House would
want to wish them well in that and encourage such efforts.
4.25 pm
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(Islington South and
Finsbury) (Lab)
I begin, as so many Members have, by welcoming the new
Minister for the Middle East to his role. He fulfilled a
similar but more junior role with great distinction for
several years, and I am sure he will do so again. I am also
sure that he will continue to bring the same passion for
the cause of finding peace between Israel and Palestine
that he always has brought to the issue, and that he always
brings to issues in the House.
My pleasure at welcoming the Minister to his new role is
tempered by the fact that I truly believe that if the
Government call a debate on such a serious foreign policy
issue as the future of talks between Israel and
Palestine—this is the first time a Government have done so
for 10 years, I believe—and that debate is held in
Government time, it would not be unreasonable to expect the
Foreign Secretary himself to make the effort to lead the
discussion. I do not mean to undermine how much I welcome
the Minister and what he has said but, although some
Members might disagree, when 100 years ago Britain’s then
Foreign Secretary, Arthur Balfour, decided that the British
Government should publicly declare their support for the
establishment of a national home for the Jewish people, he
wrote the letter in his own name. He did not delegate the
task to his junior Ministers, because he realised that not
only do words matter but that who says them matters very
much.
I regret that the Foreign Secretary has chosen not to speak
today, but I am afraid it is all part of a pattern. Since
the Yom Kippur war in 1973, we have fought 12 elections in
this country and the Conservative party has published 12
manifestos. During that whole period, the most recent
election is only the second time the Tory party has failed
to mention the middle east even once in its whole
manifesto. Even the 2005 manifesto—a document so parochial,
insular and isolationist that it did not even mention
Russia or the United States—said that a Conservative
Government would
“work to achieve peace in the Middle East based on the
principle of Israel secure within its borders and a viable
Palestinian state.”
Ten years later, in its 2015 manifesto, the Conservative
party said it would
“support a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian
conflict, robustly defending the right of Israel to protect
its security, while continuing to condemn illegal
settlement building, which undermines the prospects for
peace”.
So, we have to ask ourselves what has changed. We have to
ask why the Conservative party has been prepared to spell
out its middle east policy in 1987, 1992, 1997, 2001, 2005
and 2010, and just two years ago in 2015, but its latest
manifesto says absolutely nothing—or as some might say
klum, or as others might say, la shayy. I do not know what
the Foreign Secretary’s explanation is, and we are not
going to find out today. He might blame , or his good friend Sir
Lynton Crosby, but I must say that I drafted my section of
Labour’s manifesto; why did the Foreign Secretary trust
someone else to do his?
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(Chipping
Barnet) (Con)
It may be that the Conservatives did not cover this issue
in our manifesto, but at least we did not elect a leader
who views Hamas and Hezbollah as his friends.
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When debating this issue, it is important to do so
seriously and raise serious the matters. I am surprised at
the tone that the right hon. Lady adopts. If she wants to
continue to use the Lynton Crosby style of politics in this
place, I have to tell her that it is discredited, outdated
and does not work. Surely it is better to engage on the
substance of the debate. The point that I am making today
is that at the last general election, the Conservative
party did not mention the middle east and it did not
mention Palestine and Israel. I am coming on in my speech
to wonder why that is and to put forward a few
explanations.
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(Hertsmere)
(Con)
The shadow Foreign Secretary is very dismissive of her
leader’s description of Hamas and Hezbollah as friends. I
have to say to her that a great many of my constituents,
many of whom are Jewish, are deeply worried and troubled by
the prospect of someone who aspires to be the Prime
Minister of the United Kingdom describing those two
Jew-hating terrorist organisations as his friends. I would
welcome it if the shadow Foreign Secretary were to take the
opportunity to withdraw, on behalf of the Labour party,
those comments that have caused so much upset and offence
in the community.
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One way that we can approach this is by looking at the
truth of the situation, which is that, in order to engage
people in peace, the leader of my party wishes to bring
them together to encourage them to discuss matters. It is
only through discussion and agreement that we can make
progress.
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Dr Offord
rose—
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Before the hon. Gentleman jump up and down, let me just
finish my point. [Interruption.] Please, I urge Members to
calm down a little. I am sure that if the hon. Member for
Hertsmere (Oliver Dowden) has some good ideas about what a
future peace process between Israel and Palestine might
look like, he may get a letter from the Leader of the
Opposition, asking him up to the second floor of Norman
Shaw South to discuss it with him—he is quite happy to
discuss peace and people’s ideas. However, if Government
Members continue to use one of the main guns of the Lynton
Crosby campaign, which is discredited and has not worked, I
will not take any further interventions from them.
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(Feltham and Heston)
(Lab/Co-op)
My right hon. Friend has rightly talked about the
seriousness of the issue. Our focus must urgently be on
those who are living in Israel and Palestine and those who
are suffering tremendously. It is important to acknowledge
the worsening of the humanitarian situation. Two million
people are trapped in the Gaza strip, half of them
children. In 2012, the UN said that Gaza would be
unliveable by 2020. Many experts say that 2020 is already
here. Does my right hon. Friend agree that it is important
that we focus on those real issues and that we move the
debate forward in a productive way today?
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My hon. Friend is quite right: when 80% of people who live
in Gaza are dependent on aid to survive, it is a very
important issue. My hon. Friend the Member for Heywood and
Middleton (Liz McInnes), who will be summing up the debate
at the end of the day, will be dealing particularly with
humanitarian issues.
I shall make a little more progress on the point I was
making, while messages are perhaps sent to Lynton Crosby
for a different script. I drafted my section of the Labour
manifesto, so why did the Foreign Secretary trust someone
else to draft his? The reason, I suggest, is this: if we
have always known in this country, ever since the Balfour
declaration 100 years ago, that when statesmen and
stateswomen in this country are prepared to set down in
black and white their policies on the middle east, those
words have an impact. When they are set out by the most
senior figures as official Government policy, they matter
even more. I know that the Minister has said some very
important things today, but the point is if they are not
put in the manifesto or not said by the Secretary of State,
they do not have the same impact. That is important.
When the Conservative party fails to set out its policies
in respect of the middle east in its official manifesto,
people on all sides of the debate, particularly those in
Palestine and Israel, are left to interpret silence in the
way they wish. Many of them, sadly, will come to the
conclusion that I did, which is that the Government could
not repeat their 2015 language supporting a two-state
solution and condemning illegal settlement building
because, on both those points, they do not as yet know
where Donald Trump stands. Until they do, they want nothing
written in black and white, because, one day, it might put
them at odds with the American President. That simply is
not good enough. We cannot overturn decades of established
British foreign policy, upheld by successive Governments
from both parties, just because this pathetic Government
are happy to play patsy to Donald Trump.
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Dr Offord
I am grateful to the shadow Foreign Secretary for finally
giving way. I can assure her that if her right hon. Friend
the Leader of the Opposition has anything to say about
Israel or Hamas, he can say it tomorrow when he visits my
constituency, which has the second largest Jewish community
in the country, and I am sure that they will have plenty of
questions to ask him. What I want to know from the shadow
Foreign Secretary—this has been made very clear today—is
whether her party, in accordance with its manifesto, which
she wrote, will immediately recognise the state of
Palestine: yes or no?
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If the hon. Gentleman will take his seat, relax and listen
to the rest of my speech, I will get to that at a later
stage.
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Mr
Only about two or three years ago, when we had the
coalition Government—this might explain the reason why it
was not in the Conservative party’s manifesto—the then
Foreign Secretary said that the window of opportunity for a
settlement was slowly vanishing. Does my right hon. Friend
agree that this possibly is the reason that the Government
party has possibly never really given up? When I asked the
Minister concerned about discussions with the Israeli
Government, sanctions and settlements, he responded in a
way that did not completely answer the question. More
importantly, as my right hon. Friend has said, 2 million
people are suffering in Palestine, so what are the
Government going to do to alleviate the suffering resulting
from sanctions?
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My hon. Friend makes an important point. I see that the
Minister is making a note of it, so hopefully he will deal
with it at the end of the debate, because these questions
are important.
We seek some clarity from the Minister today on where the
Government stand and what they will do to promote peace in
any of the specific areas that the Opposition set out in
our manifesto. First, on the issue of security, it states:
“There can be no military solution to this conflict and all
sides must avoid taking action that would make peace harder
to achieve.”
That is what we wrote in May, and surely no party in this
House would disagree. We all know that there can be no
progress towards peace between Israel and Palestine unless
both sides are sure of their security. Sadly, at present
the opposite is true. Peace and security are becoming ever
harder to achieve because of the climate of increasing
aggression and extremism, which the Minister referred to.
Whether it is the horrific phenomenon of Palestinians
randomly attacking Israeli civilians and security staff
with knives, or ramming them with vehicles, leaving dozens
dead or injured, and creating a dread that we in this
country well understand, particularly after the attack on
London Bridge; or whether it is the acts of indiscriminate
terror, or the record number of Palestinians who last year,
without process or explanation, were forcibly evicted from
their homes in the occupied territories, in many cases to
make way for new and illegal Israeli settlements, whatever
the actions taken, no matter which is objectively worse, no
matter who started it and no matter what ludicrous
justifications anyone can offer, the truth is that all
these actions are simply contributing to and worsening the
same vicious cycle of violence and extremism, a vicious
cycle that can never lead us towards peace.
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(Edinburgh South West)
(SNP)
Does the right hon. Lady agree that one thing that can
unite us across party in this House, in addition to our
opposition to terrorism, which we must always condemn, is
that we must also be united in our opposition to flagrant
breaches of international law and flagrant human rights
abuses in the occupied Palestinian territories?
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The hon. and learned Lady is of course quite right.
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(Rochdale) (Lab)
It is of course right that we condemn settlements, but if
international law is powerless to impose any form of
sanction, are we not simply cementing the status quo, which
has not delivered peace over many decades?
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I believe that all of us have been saying for some time
that we know what a peace settlement ought to look like and
what elements need to be stopped. We know that we have to
stop the downward spiral of illegality, violence and blame,
and that the further down we go, the more difficult it is
to climb out again. That is why what I want to do in my
speech is address what the British can do.
As a friend of Israel and of Palestine, I am appalled at
the cycle of violence that has become so familiar that it
is no longer covered by our country’s news broadcasts, let
alone in some parties’ manifestos. I am equally appalled
when the reaction of some, on both sides of the debate, is
not to prioritise stopping the cycle of violence, but to
believe that we somehow have to pick a side to support,
denying the reality that in a terrible conflict such as
this, no side can win, and both sides can certainly
continue to lose.
What are the Government doing to bring the cycle of
violence to an end? What steps is the Minister taking with
Palestinian leaders with regard to: ending and condemning
all the acts of terrorist violence against Israel, whether
using knives, vehicles or rockets; ending and condemning
all incitement to violence, including their own; and, at
long last, recognising the state of Israel’s right to
exist? What pressure is he also putting on the Israeli
Government to end the forced displacement of Palestinians
from their homes, to end the building of new settlements
and to commit to the dismantling of existing ones?
Ultimately, what are they doing to end the blockade of the
occupied territories and allow the Palestinian people to
find permanent homes and proper jobs?
While we are discussing the issue of security, it would be
remiss of me not to ask the Minister when we can expect the
publication of the report into the foreign funding of
extremist groups in the UK. We all know that this is a
central issue when it comes to Israel and Palestine. The
funding network is vital for Hamas and other extremist
groups. We need to look into the issue and understand it.
Yet, when the Foreign Secretary was asked about the report
on 6 June, he said that he would
“dig it out and have a look at it if that’s what you would
like me to do”.
Well, we do not want him to “dig it out”. It should never
have been buried in the first place. We want the Government
to publish it and act on it. We want to know—indeed, we
have a right to know—how their policy towards Qatar, Saudi
Arabia and other countries that may be funding extremism is
being informed by that report. We want to know and we can
see no reason why we should not be told. Will the Minister
start by telling us today which countries the report
implicates? Are sovereign Governments to blame, or simply
wealthy private financiers? What are the Government’s ties
with those Governments and individuals? Ultimately, why has
that report not been published?
Let me turn to the importance of clarity and consistency,
among other things, in relation to the middle east. In
Labour’s manifesto, we once more called for a two-state
solution, an end to illegal settlements and a return to
meaningful negotiations to achieve a diplomatic resolution.
None of those things should be difficult or controversial.
Indeed, they have been staples of UK government policy and
successive party manifestos on both sides going back to the
aftermath of the second world war. But, as I have already
said, we are now at a crossroads. The Government do not
know whether Britain’s long-standing policies on the middle
east are still consistent with our equally strong desire to
work closely with the United States to try to co-ordinate
policy, because we do not know what the policy of the
United States is. The Minister welcomed President Trump’s
engagement on the issue, but I note that he did not give us
any indication of what Donald Trump’s policy on the middle
east is, and that confusion is not restricted to Britain.
Two weeks ago, the Israeli Defence Minister said that there
is an agreed level of new settlement construction that the
Trump Administration have said they will support. He said
that
“they respect our approach and our vision
regarding…settlements”,
but last week the Israeli Education Minister said the
opposite, suggesting that Trump’s approach to settlement
building was a disappointment and that
“he’s…going down the same unsuccessful path that his
predecessors did”.
So what is the truth? The Israelis do not know. The
Palestinians do not know. And I bet a fair amount that,
although the Minister of State welcomes the engagement, he
really does not know what Donald Trump’s policy is.
Depressingly, I am pretty sure that Donald Trump does not
have the foggiest idea either.
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Dr (Ealing Central and Acton)
(Lab)
I was on a cross-party delegation to the Holy Land in
January. Does my right hon. Friend share the concern of
some of the Palestinians we saw—Christians as well as
Muslims—at the involvement and financial interests of some
of Donald Trump’s acolytes in settlement construction? In
the popular imagination, settlements are maybe just a few
shacks on a hill, but Ma'ale Adumim, which we saw, has
37,500 people in it—it looks like a pleasant American
commuter town, with five swimming pools and all sorts of
other things—and that makes the geographically viable
Palestinian state that might one day come even more
difficult.
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The difficulty is that, certainly during the campaign, and
in the early days of his—I think the word
is—Administration, the statements Donald Trump has made in
relation to Israel have been very alarming for those who
support a two-state solution.
The point I am trying to make is that Britain has always
wanted to be able to co-ordinate its foreign policy with
the Americans, and this Government are so weak and wobbly
that they feel they have to be in lockstep with Donald
Trump. That is where we have the difficulty in relation to
middle east policy, and that may be one of the reasons why
the Foreign Secretary will not come to the Dispatch Box and
why Israel and Palestine were not mentioned in the Tory
manifesto.
Let me develop my argument further. One thing we know for
sure is that waiting for Donald Trump to make up his mind
is no way for the British Government to decide their
foreign policy. So let me ask the Minister of State today
not just to do what every Foreign Minister has done for the
last seven decades and to make it clear that we want to see
a peaceful process of negotiation towards a two-state
solution, including an end to all acts of terrorism towards
Israel and an end to all illegal settlements, but to make
it clear that that will be our position regardless of what
America finally decides is its policy stance. If Donald
Trump departs from those long-standing policies, will the
British Government condemn him? That is what they should be
prepared to do.
If the Minister of State will not say those things today,
we can only come to two equally unpalatable and pitiful
conclusions: either the Government have abdicated Britain’s
leadership role and are simply waiting to take their cues
from Trump Tower, or they see no point in putting pressure
on the Trump Administration, because they know they will
simply be ignored—just like they were over climate change.
Let me turn to the final point on this issue. The Labour
manifesto said simply and clearly:
“A Labour government will immediately recognise the state
of Palestine.”
Six years ago, the then Foreign Secretary said:
“We reserve the right to recognise a Palestinian state...at
a moment of our choosing and when it can best help bring
about peace.”—[Official Report, 9 November 2011; Vol. 535,
c. 290.]
Let me, then, urge the Minister and the Government to seize
the moment we are now offered by the Balfour centenary to
throw our support behind Palestinian statehood, just as we
threw our support 100 years ago behind Israeli statehood.
If the question is whether this is the moment when
recognising statehood will help bring about peace, I would
simply ask, in Primo Levi’ s words, “If not now, when?”
When violence and extremism are rising on all sides, when
hard-liners are assuming increasing control, when the
humanitarian crisis is getting even worse, and when all
eyes are on an American President whose grand plan for
peace exists only in his mind, we need the British
Government, more than ever, to show some leadership and to
show the way towards peace—and recognition of Palestinian
statehood would be one significant step in that direction.
So will the Minister of State tell the House whether such a
move is under consideration? If it is not, what will it
take for the Government to act? The right hon. Gentleman
will recall that in 2014, MPs on both sides of the House
voted in favour of recognition of Palestine by a majority
of 262.
I have mentioned the 100th anniversary of the Balfour
declaration.
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(East Dunbartonshire)
(LD)
I am interested in and listening with great care to what
the right hon. Lady is saying about recognition of
Palestine, and particularly about what the Government’s
position was some years ago. Does she share my concern
that, given the Minister’s comments today, it seems that
that position has moved and that recognition is being ruled
out until the end of talks on a peace process rather than
being something that the Government would be able to do at
any time?
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I would be grateful if the Minister could clarify the
position today, and that is why I am asking these
questions. If Britain were to recognise the Palestinian
state, it would be an opportunity for us to play honest
broker and to challenge the Palestinians to ensure that
their leaders behave in a statespersonlike way, as their
people need them to behave if they are to be a state and in
order to look to the future. If we were to recognise that,
we could make a positive contribution.
I mentioned the 100th anniversary of the Balfour
declaration, but this is also the year when we mark the
50th anniversaries of two equally significant moments in
middle east history: the six-day war, and the Israeli
occupation of Gaza and the west bank. Just as the
consequences of Balfour’s letter are still with us 100
years on, the consequences of events in 1967 are equally
alive today. They are alive in the justifiable fears that
every Israeli citizen shares whenever they hear denials of
Israel’s right to exist, whenever they hear air-raid sirens
warning of rocket attacks, and whenever they hear the
latest reports of cowardly terror attacks on ordinary
Israeli citizens. The consequences are also with us in the
anger and unfairness that has been felt by many Palestinian
people since 1967, with their children growing up in
poverty and deprivation, their homes bulldozed to make way
for ever more illegal settlements, and their futures
offering just more of the same. It is a vicious cycle of
fear and despair—as I said earlier, a downward spiral from
which it becomes ever harder to climb back.
But it does not have to be this way. We will hear in
today’s debate—indeed, we have all heard in our discussions
with Israelis and Palestinians in recent years—that there
are on all sides people of good will with moderate views,
mutual understanding, and shared hope for progress, who can
together take us down the long and difficult but necessary
path towards brokering a lasting peace. I hope that this
debate will set the right tone in that regard, and that it
will be constructive and forward-looking. Most of all, as I
said at the outset, I hope that we all remember that our
words on this issue are listened to—they matter and they
make a difference—and that neither silence nor choosing
sides is acceptable if what we ultimately want is peace.
In that spirit, I ask the Minister to address all the
questions I have raised, but, most importantly, to tell us
very simply what the Government will actively be doing, on
their own terms, in the coming months to make their
contribution towards that peace.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Madam Deputy Speaker (Mrs Eleanor Laing)
Order. It will be obvious to the House that a great many
colleagues wish to speak in this debate. The opening
speeches have been very long. I appreciate that that is
because the opening speakers have taken a great many
interventions. I trust that people who have intervened on
the opening speeches will remain here and take part in the
rest of the debate, because otherwise it is not fair on
those who are waiting to speak and will have only a very
short time to do so at the end. There will have to be a
time limit, after the SNP spokesman, of six minutes
initially, but I am afraid that that will come down to a
smaller amount later because of the number of people who
wish to participate in this very important debate.
4.53 pm
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(Reigate) (Con)
2017 is a year of many historic anniversaries for the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and so I welcome this chance
for Members across the House to reflect on Britain’s past,
present, and future role in the conflict. The events we
mark are not relics of the past holding kernels of wisdom
for the astute historian; they have directly structured the
ongoing daily reality for the lives of millions of people.
This year marks the 50th anniversary of the six-day war and
the Israeli occupation of the west bank that continues to
this day. The occupation, and the settler movement that
formed under its shadow, has created an unsustainable
status quo that poses a fundamental threat to our shared
ideals of a democratic and secure Israel alongside a viable
and sovereign Palestinian state.
I remember taking part in a cricket tour of Israel five
years ago, as part of the Lords and Commons cricket team,
with my hon. Friend the Member for Halesowen and Rowley
Regis (James Morris). One of the highlights was him hitting
a ball into the middle of the Olympic stadium stand, in a
piece of cricket-playing that was otherwise largely
unsuccessful on our part. On that tour, we witnessed some
really interesting attempts to build peace from the bottom
up. Under the auspices of the Peres Centre for Peace, we
saw children from the occupied territories playing cricket
together with Israeli Jewish children and Israeli Arab
children. That was one of myriad projects designed to try
to do something, in different walks of life, to bring
peace.
Two other things really struck me on that tour. The first
was that an Israeli general election campaign was in
progress, and the conflict was barely an issue among the
Israeli parties. It was simply behind the wire or the wall,
both politically and in reality. The other was a comment
made by the chair of the Israel Cricket Association, a
South African Zionist who had been there since 1947, who
said that 1967 was the time when Israel began to lose its
moral authority.
There is something special about the Israeli story. Like
many in my generation, I grew up learning about the horror
of the holocaust and the building of a brave democratic
state in Israel, which was assailed on all sides by its
Arab neighbours. There was a sense of moral authority about
the setting up of this state, following the appalling
events in Jewish history in Europe over the previous 1,000
years or so. I hope that out of the talks that need to
happen now, we can find a way to restore the specialness of
the Israeli story and the moral purpose of the state of
Israel. I think we all have expectations of the state of
Israel—that she will aspire to the highest possible
standards—but the way in which the conflict and policy have
developed makes it very difficult for her to achieve them.
I will return to that point.
Particularly significant for us this year is the 100th
anniversary of the Balfour declaration on 2 November. I
hope that this debate will not preclude further
parliamentary consideration of that anniversary at the
time. This is a touchstone issue for millions of Arabs and
Muslims, and I do not think I am exaggerating when I say
that their eyes will be on us. The centenary must be
handled with the utmost care and consideration. In the
conversations that I had with almost all Arab ambassadors
in my capacity as a former Chair of the Foreign Affairs
Committee, it was clear that uncertainty and anxiety
surround the centenary.
Last November, the then Minister for the Middle East
assured the House that the British Government would neither
celebrate nor apologise for the Balfour declaration. I
welcomed that position for its acknowledgement that
although for many the declaration was the beginning of
their deliverance from centuries of persecution, for others
its unfulfilled passages were the root of their communal
loss. In such a context, celebration or apology betrays the
legitimate historical sensitivities of either party, when
we should be focused on how to move the issue forward to
the benefit of both parties.
I would welcome from the new Minister—the most admirable
piece of recycling that it has been my pleasure to see; in
his position as a Privy Counsellor and a Minister of State
he has the authority of all the experience he gained when
he previously held the role, for which he was widely held
in high regard—a clarification of the Government’s position
on the centenary and an assurance that Ministers will
endeavour to ensure that their messages are properly
synchronised, and that they open a particular dialogue with
the Arab embassies and states about the Government’s
position on the anniversary.
Talking of anniversaries, I am in my 21st year as a Member
of the House; that is an anniversary that we share, Madam
Deputy Speaker. It has been an honour to sit on these
Benches, but it has been profoundly sad to witness these
recurring debates on a frozen conflict, the position of
which has got worse over the last 20 years. Amid the
minefield of competing claims, we get bogged down in an
epistemological challenge about how we balance so many
unbalanced forces, how we treat fairly so many conflicting
injustices and how we stand up to the wrongs of one without
establishing the equivalence with those of the other, all
supposedly in pursuit of effecting meaningful change to
bring about a resolution and to put an end to the conflict.
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(Stalybridge and
Hyde) (Lab/Co-op)
I very much welcome the hon. Gentleman’s tone. I am a
supporter of the state of Israel, and I am also desperate
for some real progress to be made towards a Palestinian
state and towards showing dignity and respect for the
Palestinian people. I agree with earlier comments that
debates such as this can get quite polarised and binary in
the House of Commons. I believe we all wish to see
progress, and we should look to the tone adopted by the
hon. Gentleman.
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I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his
intervention. I am trying to make precisely the point that
we all too often indulge in reinforcing our own respective
positions.
No single problem is causing the stalemate, and there is
therefore no single solution. Neither party holds a
monopoly of power to make peace, and all sides have the
capability to spoil it. Palestinians have been betrayed by
years of factionalised leaderships that have failed to meet
their people’s needs—from the basic governance necessary to
live in dignity to the realisation of their legitimate
political ambitions for self-determination. Now, possibly
more than at any time in their history, the Palestinian
people are trapped deep within a structural crisis of
leadership, with almost all levels of democratic activity
and elections suspended. This augurs badly for any efforts
to address issues such as the incitement or commission of
violence, and it denies Palestinians the opportunity to
present their cause with the legal and moral authority that
it deserves.
On the other hand, the continuation of the settlement
programme, in contravention of international law—I welcome
the Minister’s restatement of the British
position—undermines the prospects for a viable Palestinian
state in the future. Settlements are the physical
embodiment of conflict between competing narratives of
nationalism, in the context of a historic tragedy that has
pitted entire peoples against each other in their
respective searches for nationhood. Across the canvas of a
biblical landscape, settlements paint a picture of a
zero-sum paradigm from which no party has found the
political will to escape. Aside from the practical impact
that settlements have on the viability of a future
Palestinian state, settlements and the multifaceted
injustices that they represent are salt in the open wound
of their collective dispossession.
Both sides complain that they lack partners for peace on
the opposite side of the negotiating table. However, they
all too often fail to think about what they themselves
could do to nurture such partners. Any colleagues who have
been able to spend time engaging with broader Israeli and
Palestinian society will know that there are such partners,
and they share many of the frustrations at their mutual
predicament. These people need to be empowered to win their
respective arguments in their societies. The Minister will
recall that we both met Gideon Sa’ar during the election
campaign. He took time out from frontline Israeli
politics—he is a potential successor to Benjamin Netanyahu
as the leader of Likud—to go to Northern Ireland with an
organisation called Forward Thinking to see the peace and
the resolution that we have made, and are trying to make,
to the conflict there. He was prepared to learn lessons,
and it is a sign of hope when Israeli leaders are taking
time out to go and see routes to conflict resolution. We
need to be able to do that with political leaders on both
sides.
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Dr Huq
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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If the hon. Lady will forgive me, I will not give way
because I am concluding and I know that other Members wish
to speak.
It was with some disappointment that the general election
broke off the Foreign Affairs Committee’s inquiry into
Britain’s role in the middle east peace process, after we
had received 70 submissions totalling over 400 pages of
evidence. I hope to be able to carry on this work if I am
re-elected as Chair of the Committee, because there is a
clear need for scrutiny and debate on all the policy
questions raised by this tragically frozen conflict. If we
do not get to grips with this conflict, it will continue to
get worse and more desperate. Britain, with its historical
legacy, has a very particular role to play, which is why we
cannot escape our involvement in this tragedy, but it will
require our full attention if we are to get the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict back on a path to peace.
5.03 pm
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(Glasgow North)
(SNP)
I welcome you back to your role, Mr Deputy Speaker, and
both your deputies to theirs. I also welcome the Minister
to the Front Bench. I note that he is a joint Minister of
the Department for International Development and of the
Foreign Office. It will be interesting to see how such an
innovation pans out, but I hope it enhances rather than
diminishes the role of DFID within the Government.
The last time I spoke in a debate in the Chamber before the
general election was during the Back-Bench business debate
on the question of illegal settlements in the occupied
territories on 9 February. It was an historic debate, after
which the House resolved, without a Division, to recognise
that the settlements are “contrary to international law”
and to call on the Government of Israel “immediately to
halt” the planning and construction of such settlements.
This is a welcome, if somewhat unexpected, opportunity to
revisit in Government time the wider question of the peace
process and relations between Israel and Palestine. The
Government are to be congratulated on making this time
available. I hope they will listen carefully to the points
being made by Members across the House and, in particular,
consider how they can best support multilateral efforts to
bring about a lasting settlement.
As others have noted, 2017 marks a number of important
anniversaries and milestones in the region. We should use
that opportunity to comprehensively review efforts for
peace in the region and ensure that the appropriate
diplomatic channels and support are in place.
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Dr Offord
Would the hon. Gentleman like to take this opportunity to
inform the House what the SNP’s policy is? Would it like to
recognise the state of Palestine before direct peace talks?
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I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will be pleased to hear
that the SNP manifesto committed us to continuing
“to work with international partners to progress a lasting
peace settlement in the Middle East, pursuing a two state
solution for Israel and Palestine.”
When the vote was taken some years ago on recognising the
state of Palestine, SNP Members voted in favour of that
resolution of the House.
It is the long-standing position of most international
actors, starting with the United Nations and including the
SNP in our manifesto, that a two-state solution with
secure, stable and prosperous states of Israel and
Palestine living side by side should be the basis of a just
and sustainable peace in the region. That position was
reaffirmed in December last year by the Security Council in
resolution 2334, which stresses the need for respect of the
1967 borders and calls on both sides to refrain from
activities that prevent progress towards peace.
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(Beckenham)
(Con)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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No. The resolution calls for
“immediate steps to prevent all acts of violence against
civilians, including acts of terror, as well as all acts of
provocation and destruction”.
That clearly applies to indiscriminate rocket attacks
against targets in Israel. However, the resolution also
makes clear the responsibility of Israel, as the occupying
power, to respect international law and the protection of
civilians, and it condemns
“the construction and expansion of settlements, transfer of
Israeli settlers, confiscation of land, demolition of homes
and displacement of Palestinian civilians”.
There is a responsibility on UN members, particularly UN
Security Council members, to take the calls for action in
the resolution seriously and redouble efforts to make
progress.
We have heard in this debate that far from reducing
settlement construction, the scale of building by the
Government of Israel has increased. They have attempted to
justify that with new legislation in the Knesset. The
popularity and legitimacy of that has been questioned
within Israel itself. We have heard in speeches and
interventions about the worsening humanitarian situation in
the Palestinian territories and the need for a response to
that.
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(Bradford East)
(Lab)
The hon. Gentleman makes a fine point in respect of human
rights abuses, but one thing that has not been spoken about
today as much as it should be is the infringement of the
human rights of children through the use of military
courts. Will he join me in saying that their use is not
only inhumane but unlawful?
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All the conventions on human rights, particularly the
convention on the rights of the child, should be respected
in this situation and in situations around the world.
Children should not be used as pawns in a conflict.
Historically, the United States and its Presidents have
played a key role in the negotiations. I remember studying
the Oslo accords at school. In the summer of 2000, I was in
America while the last Camp David summit took place.
Watching that unfold brought home to me both how close and
how far away peace and a genuine negotiated settlement can
be at the same time. One could almost say that it is like
two sides of a wall, although it is very difficult to build
bridges when there is a wall in the way.
It was heartening that one of the last acts of the Obama
Administration was not to stand in the way of the
resolution at the Security Council. As we have heard, the
new Administration have been less than consistent on that
point. At times, they have even appeared to question the
consensus around a two-state solution. The first question
to the UK Government, therefore, has to be how they are
making the most of their special relationship with the US
Administration. What steps are they taking to support a
two-state solution and to encourage the US President and
his team in that direction?
I want to ask the Minister more generally about the UK’s
exercise of its soft power and diplomacy. A specific case
has been brought to my attention by an academic at the
University of Glasgow in my constituency. The Home Office
recently denied a UK entry visa to Dr Nazmi al-Masri, the
vice-president for external relations at the Islamic
University of Gaza. I understand that Dr al-Masri has a
30-year history of entering and returning from the United
Kingdom, and that he was due to travel to support research
at the University of Glasgow as a co-investigator on
Research Councils UK-funded grants in a £2 million project
on translating cultures, other projects on global mental
health and the Erasmus programme. His collaborator at
Glasgow University has told me that his visa refusal
seriously curtails the ability of the programme and the
institution to fulfil the aims of projects that have
already been funded by the UK Government’s research
councils. How can that kind of Home Office intransigence
possibly help to promote good will and understanding? Where
is the UK’s soft power and diplomatic influence if it will
not allow academics in good standing entry into the UK to
promote the peaceful study of understanding between
cultures and global mental health? I hope the Minister
raises that with his colleagues.
That raises further questions about the UK Government’s
efforts, particularly in light of Brexit and the UK’s
changing role on the world stage. Are Ministers satisfied
that the discussions our Prime Minister has had with Prime
Minister Netanyahu are sufficient, or is there a need to go
further? What steps are the Government taking to ensure
that this country will adhere to the UN Security Council’s
demand that, in international relations, states make a
distinction between Israel and the occupied territories?
Will the Minister guarantee that, as the UK leaves the EU,
it will continue to make that kind of diplomatic
differentiation? Does he agree that the UK should not be
trading with illegal settlements? Those are important
questions, especially if the UK Government continue to
interpret their so-called special relationship with the
United States as essentially agreeing to whatever the
incumbent US Administration asks of them.
As has been repeatedly said, a peaceful solution must be
based on mutual respect and recognition on both sides. That
applies not only to the people of the states of Israel and
Palestine, but to their supporters and allies in the
international community. Under no circumstances are attacks
on or abuse of the Jewish people, or any kind of
manifestation of anti-Semitism, acceptable. Anti-Semitism
should be named as such and condemned. That applies to
violence and extremism in any form, whether directed at
Palestinian, Israeli, Jewish or Muslim communities.
In February, I finished my speech by quoting the Catholic
translation of psalm 122:
“For the peace of Jerusalem pray: Peace be to your homes!”
Other translations put it slightly differently. The King
James version is:
“Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that
love thee.”
Other translations have a similar emphasis: a personal and
collective injunction that we will all individually and
collectively prosper if peace is achieved. Peace in
Jerusalem and the Holy Land will benefit not just those who
live there, but all of us around the world. That is the
challenge and the opportunity to which we must rise, and to
which I am sure the House will return on many future
occasions.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle)
Order. I should just mention that speeches will be limited
to five minutes.
5.12 pm
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(Chipping
Barnet) (Con)
Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I draw the attention of the
House to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial
Interests regarding a fascinating visit to Israel and the
west bank that I had the privilege of making in February.
We should acknowledge that despite the existential threats
that Israel has so often faced, it is a liberal, pluralist
democracy committed to working for a peaceful settlement
with its neighbours. It is also a multi-ethnic, multi-faith
democracy. Unlike many other countries in the middle east,
Israel fully protects the rights of women, and the rights
of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people, which we
should celebrate. Trade between our two countries is at a
record high, and I urge the Government to oppose the
campaign for boycotts and divestment, which too often is
used try to delegitimise the state of Israel.
In recent months, people in this city and this country have
tragically suffered directly at the hands of terrorists.
Sadly, in the past few years, there have been many similar
attacks in Israel. Palestinian terrorists have deployed
techniques used in recent atrocities here and in other
European countries. Since September 2015, there have been
more than 389 stabbings, shootings and car ramming
incidents against Israeli citizens. The North London
Friends of Israel, which has members in my Chipping Barnet
constituency, has expressed its serious concern to me that
the UK media tend to report attacks in Israel in a
completely different way from how they cover similar
attacks in the UK. The group points out that the word
“terrorism” is sometimes completely absent and that reports
can even lead with the killing of the terrorist, not the
attack itself.
More importantly, the prospects for a peace settlement are
harmed by those who persist in praising terrorists. The UK
ambassador to the United Nations recently stated that at
the “root” of recent violence
“lies a seemingly unending cycle of poisonous rhetoric and
incitement”,
including the use of
“racist, anti-Semitic and hateful language”.
It is shocking that as many as 25 Palestinian schools are
named after terrorists. An estimated £84 million is paid
annually to convicted terrorists, with higher salaries
given to those who have killed more people. One can only
imagine the hurt and outcry that would occur if that
happened in relation to someone responsible for a terrorist
attack in the UK. It emerged yesterday that President Abbas
has vowed never to stop these hateful payments, which is
something that I strongly condemn. I hope that other
Members on both sides of the House will condemn that, too.
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(Colchester) (Con)
My right hon. Friend is making some incredibly powerful
points. Does she agree that there will be no peace deal
while children are being indoctrinated to “hate the Jews”
and the destruction of the state of Israel is encouraged?
She rightly points out that schools—and sports
competitions—have been named after terrorists, which is
completely wrong.
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My hon. Friend makes an entirely valid point. In June 2016,
a 13-year-old Israeli, Hallel Yaffa Ariel, was murdered as
she slept. The 17-year-old terrorist who killed her was
subsequently praised on Fatah’s official Facebook page. In
a TV interview in September 2015, President Abbas declared:
“We welcome every drop of blood spilled in Jerusalem”.
His Fatah party have praised Dalal Mughrabi as a “bride of
Palestine”. She was responsible for killing 37 Israelis,
including 12 children, in one of the most despicable
attacks in Israel’s history. It is also very worrying, as
Members have pointed out, that the recent al-Quds day march
in London saw Hezbollah flags flown in full view of the
police. One of my constituents described it as “grotesque
and unacceptable” that a pro-terrorist demonstration went
ahead in London just a short time after we had suffered at
the hands of terrorists. Like others, I urge the Government
to do away with the artificial distinction between the
political and paramilitary parts of Hezbollah and proscribe
the whole organisation. The flags carried at the march
might have had a small disclaimer on them, but I gather
that many included large pictures of Kalashnikovs.
A Palestinian state cannot be achieved through unilateral
measures, only through face-to-face negotiations. I
therefore welcome the Government’s refusal to sign the
one-sided communique in Paris in February. Every Government
in Israel’s history have expressed a wish to live in peace
with their neighbours. Successive Israeli Governments have
declared their support for establishing a Palestinian state
through direct negotiations and agreement on mutual
recognition, borders and security. Israel’s Prime Minister
has repeatedly offered to restart negotiations.
There have been no official peace talks since 2014, but I
believe there are grounds for hope. Israel’s relationship
with a number of other countries has improved somewhat in
the face of shared concern over matters such as the rise of
Daesh and the hegemonic ambitions of Iran, which is now
involved so heavily in many conflicts in the middle east.
That shared concern appears to have opened up new channels
of communication and co-operation, and led to a concerted
regional push to revive the peace process. This issue
divides the House, but I hope we can all agree on the
importance of bringing the two sides together so that they
can restart negotiations and work together to secure a
brighter, better future for both Israelis and Palestinians.
5.18 pm
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(Birmingham,
Northfield) (Lab)
I add my welcome to the right hon. Member for North East
Bedfordshire (Alistair Burt) on his return to the Front
Bench. He has previously served with distinction as a
middle east Minister, and he speaks on this issue with
great authority. He definitely has a passion for peace, and
I commend him for it.
When I saw the title that the Government had chosen for
today’s debate, I was put in mind of something the former
Palestinian ambassador to the UK, Afif Safieh, once said.
He said that when he heard Governments—our own or others in
the international community—talking about the middle east
process, he felt the objective was a never-ending peace
process rather than an enduring peace. Everyone recognises
that peace will come only when Israelis and Palestinians
are committed to, and deliver, agreements that they can
both sign up to. What Ambassador Safieh was getting at,
however, was that when the call for talks becomes a
substitute for either facing up to the reality on the
ground or for using what leverage we have to change the
reality, the danger is that we end up colluding with the
status quo, and the status quo in that part of the world is
very clear indeed.
The website of the United Nations Office for the
Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs summarises life in
the west bank thus:
“Palestinians in the West Bank are subject to a complex
system of control, including physical (the Barrier,
checkpoints, roadblocks) and bureaucratic barriers
(permits, closure of areas) which restrict their right to
freedom of movement. The expansion of Settlements,
restrictions on access to land and natural resources and
ongoing displacement due to demolitions in particular, are
ongoing. Israeli policies curtail the ability of
Palestinians in Area C and East Jerusalem to plan their
communities and build homes and infrastructure. The result
is further fragmentation of the West Bank. Ongoing violent
incidents throughout the West Bank pose risks to life,
liberty and security, and—security considerations
notwithstanding—concerns exist over reports of excessive
use of force by Israeli forces.”
Those are not my words, but those of the United Nations.
As for Gaza, it is something else again. Ten years of
blockade by Israel has left Gaza without a functioning
economy. At 43%, its unemployment rate is among the highest
in the world. Some 95% of its water is not safe to drink,
and food insecurity affects 72% of households. Gaza is a
tiny strip of land whose population will have grown to 2.1
million by 2020, and the United Nations estimates that by
about the same time it will be uninhabitable for human
beings.
In the face of all that, the key issue is not whether we
are doing all that we can to encourage talks, but what we
are doing to help to achieve change in practice. A joint
statement issued on 12 May by the UN’s humanitarian
agencies operating in the west bank and Gaza was clear on
that point, saying:
“Ending the occupation is the single most important
priority to enable Palestinians to advance development
goals, reduce humanitarian needs and ensure respect for
Human Rights.”
We need to think about where we have leverage to enable us
to do that, and one of the areas in which we have leverage
is the issue of settlements. Of course we all disapprove of
settlements—no announcement of a new settlement goes by
without an expression of disapproval from our Government,
and I welcome that—but is it not time that we started using
the leverage that we have and that we use in other parts of
the world? Settlements are illegal. When Crimea was annexed
by Russia, we applied a series of disincentives to
companies that colluded with that illegality. Why is it so
difficult for us to do the same in relation to settlements
in the occupied territories?
In respect of Gaza, let me ask the Minister this. Does he
believe that Israel is fulfilling its responsibilities as
an occupying power? If it is not fulfilling those
responsibilities, what actions can we take, as a high
contracting party to the fourth Geneva convention, to
ensure that it does so?
Finally, let me say something about the recognition of
Palestine. We have never said—no one has ever said—that
recognition of Israel should be a matter of negotiation.
Israel is recognised as a matter of right, and quite
rightly so, but if we believe in even-handedness between
Israel and Palestinians, that same right must apply to
Palestinians. It is time, on the 100th anniversary of the
Balfour declaration, to fulfil what the House voted for on
13 October 2014 and recognise the state of Palestine.
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Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle)
Order.
5.24 pm
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(Cheadle) (Con)
I am pleased to follow the hon. Member for Birmingham,
Northfield (Richard Burden).
As has been mentioned, the centenary of the Balfour
declaration falls this November, marking 100 years since
the British Government confirmed the UK’s support for the
establishment of a national home for the Jewish people. In
making that commitment, we recognised that the UK not only
has an interest in Israel as a nation, ally, regional
partner and friend, but specifically laid out the need to
protect the civil and religious rights of existing
non-Jewish communities in Palestine, thus creating the
foundation on which the state of Israel was built. The
British Government have since committed to a long-standing
position of supporting a two-state solution.
The centenary of the Balfour declaration presents a unique
opportunity to revive the middle east peace process, and it
is important that we play our part in this. As we
re-evaluate the role that the UK can play in brokering
peace, I am pleased that the Gracious Speech includes the
commitment to find sustainable political solutions to
conflicts across the middle east.
As this year also marks the anniversary of the 1967 war, we
reflect that the halfway point since Balfour was marked by
six days of regional conflict that pitted Israel against
its neighbours, one against the other, leaving a legacy of
distrust, violence and resentment against ensuing
settlements. And yet today, Jordan and Israel are beacons
of much-needed stability in a region still riven by war,
conflict and the mass displacement of populations.
I have visited both countries and seen not only the huge
challenges that they face, but their inspiring work and
determination to succeed. I refer Members to my entries in
the register of interest regarding my visits to Jordan and
Israel. In Jordan, I saw the wonderful work being
undertaken by UNICEF in the Za’atari camp and in the host
communities, educating thousands of refugee children and
helping to support many of the hundreds of thousands of
Syrian people who have been given refuge by the Jordanian
Government. The Jordanian commitment to stability in the
region makes the country potentially a strong partner in
the push for peace.
In Israel, I visited Rawabi, the first Palestinian planned
city, which is expected to provide homes for over 35,000
Palestinians, and is aiming to create more than 50,000
jobs, focusing on the high-tech, healthcare and the
renewable energy sectors. It was awe-inspiring to see a
city built from scratch.
We should not underestimate the prospect that a desire for
economic progress could also fuel a drive for peace. With
sectors such as technology booming in Israel, with 300,000
high-tech workers being employed, a solution with two
states at peace offers a future of prosperity for both.
Over recent months, we have seen terrorism and violent
attacks in Israel and the west bank, as well as closer to
home in the UK. It is always the innocent who suffer.
However, whenever terrorism, terrorist extremism and
intolerance take place, that must never be allowed to deter
us from a desire for peace and democracy. To achieve the
goal of a peaceful, stable region, we must support
authorities on both sides to come to the table without
prescriptive preconditions and in a spirit of
understanding.
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(Harrow East)
(Con)
My hon. Friend is making a powerful case for peace in the
middle east. In the light of Indian Prime Minister Modi’s
visit to Israel and the fact that India has suffered
terrorism as well, does she agree that those two great
countries can come together and form an excellent security
relationship?
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I agree. It is interesting that we are looking to see which
other countries can help, even though we acknowledge that
peace itself will come only from the two sides involved.
Regional players and previously hostile states are moving
closer towards accepting an ideal of peace, and I note that
at the Security Council briefing on the peace process last
month, the Arab League Secretary-General reaffirmed a
commitment to the 2002 Arab peace initiative. Perhaps this
provides an opportunity for constructive dialogue.
For our part, as the dust settles from the general election
and we rightly focus on what our future relationship with
Europe looks like, we must continue to act in the best
interests of peace across the world. We should not lose
sight of the historical bond between the UK and the region,
and with our strong historical trade ties, and in this
special year, the UK has the opportunity to reaffirm and
actively pursue peace through our long-standing positions
supporting a safe and secure Israel living alongside a
viable and sovereign Palestinian state based on 1967
borders, with agreed land swaps, agreement on the status of
Jerusalem for both states, and the resettlement of
refugees. This has been the UK’s commitment to the peace
process, based on a two-state solution. As we commemorate
100 years since the Balfour declaration and our support for
the region, we should revive the effort for peace through
meaningful talks and truly make 2017 the anniversary of the
Balfour declaration and an anniversary for peace.
5.30 pm
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(Peterborough)
(Lab)
It is with both a humble heart and abiding pride that I
stand to make my first speech in the House of Commons. As
is customary, I would like to pay tribute to my
predecessor. There is nothing that highlights a person’s
character more than when they are faced with adversity, and
I will never forget the grace, kindness and authentic good
wishes that Mr Jackson expressed to me on the night of the
election. I hope that his life beyond Parliament is as
fulfilling as he intends.
Also, I would like to speak briefly about my home
constituency of Peterborough. It is rich in history. Its
cathedral is a true gem: it was a temporary resting place
for Mary Queen of Scots, and it is also where Catherine of
Aragon, Henry VIII’s first wife, is buried. One could say
that Peterborough attracts its share of powerful women!
But when I look at Peterborough, my home, I see so much
more than the legacies and treasures of its past; I see a
city that cherishes its diversity. People have come to
Peterborough from every corner of the globe, and many
nations are represented. My presence here may be a symbol
of this increasing diversity: I am the first black female
MP ever elected by my constituency. In Peterborough, I see
a place that has much to be proud of. Our major employers,
like Perkins Engines and Peter Brotherhood, are world
class. We also have entrepreneurs that are cutting edge,
and our local newspaper, the Peterborough Telegraph, is
dynamic and well read. Peterborough is also notable for its
beauty, and there are rural parts of the constituency that
serve as our own Gardens of Eden.
Peterborough has a bright future and so much going for it,
but my constituency and our country also have their share
of challenges, which I intend to address as a Member of
Parliament. When I began my campaign, one of the very first
issues I said I wanted to tackle was housing. We all need a
decent place to live. Never in my darkest nightmares did I
expect to see this proposition so starkly illustrated as it
was by the Grenfell Tower fire. It still seems incredible
that such a disaster could happen in one of the richest
parts of one of the richest cities in one of the richest
countries in the world. It is incumbent upon the Government
and Members of this House to do their utmost to ensure that
such a tragedy can never happen again. With this in mind,
the Government must ensure that adequate funding is
provided to those councils that require it. Fine words and
opaque promises of support are insufficient.
We must also help those who do not have a home. According
to Shelter, in December 2016 some 600 people in
Peterborough were without a place to live. Homelessness is
an increasing problem for the country as a whole. Shelter
estimates that 150 British families become homeless every
day. Far from any stereotype, these are often people who
work or are willing to work. Some are veterans who have
served our country with distinction. Some have physical and
mental health problems. All deserve decent treatment.
I am also very concerned about education. Peterborough had
amongst the lowest SATs results in the country. Our schools
are trying very hard to make do with ever-shrinking
resources that have been tied up in experiments such as
free schools. Beyond improvements in primary and secondary
education, Peterborough needs a university. So many bright
and talented young people in my city feel they have to
leave home to achieve their dreams, which is why I am
pleased to note that some progress has been made in that
area.
The NHS is also one of my key concerns. Cuts to the health
service have left my constituents facing long waiting times
for appointments. The healthcare “reforms” as implemented
by this Government led to the fiasco of the UnitingCare
Partnership, which collapsed in 2015 after only eight
months. Attempts to marry up public service and private
profit have tended to favour the latter over the former,
which leads me to a final observation: we need balance in
our policies, placing people at the centre. We need to
acknowledge that there is a role for Government and
regulation, as the markets we create are not necessarily
compassionate, understanding or even humane.
We need not only to hear but to listen to the voices of
those we were elected to serve and we need to look around
us. Those at the top continue to get wealthier, while those
at the bottom are seeing their living standards eroded.
Contrary to what some may think, austerity is expensive.
Cutting budgets does not always save money, let alone
lives. We cannot make a rich country out of one that makes
the majority of its people poorer.
I am motivated in all that I do by my abiding faith in God.
As we look at the issues facing Palestine and Israel, there
is the temptation to see religion as something that divides
rather than unites people, but I believe that it is
mankind’s frailties that cause conflict and strife, not
one’s faith. I sincerely hope for a future in which the
peoples of the middle east live in the harmony that God
intends for them.
It is on this note of faith that I would like to conclude
my speech. Hon. Members who have encountered my acronyms
will know that I refer to myself as MP FI because I
endeavour to “Make People Feel Inspired” and my acronym for
faith is “For All In This House”. As stated on the floor in
Central Lobby:
“Except the Lord build the House, they labour in vain that
build it”.
With His help, Mr Deputy Speaker, I intend to do right.
5.36 pm
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(Brecon and Radnorshire)
(Con)
I congratulate the hon. Member for Peterborough (Fiona
Onasanya) on an excellent maiden speech. It is always a
pleasure to follow a maiden speech and the hon. Lady
delivered hers particularly well. I did not agree with
every point in it, but it was delivered well and I have no
doubts that the hon. Lady will join that distinguished
group of Peterborough’s alpha women.
Hon. and right hon. Members have drawn attention to the key
obstacles to peace and to the final status issues for the
negotiations between Israel and Palestine. The starting
point of all negotiations must surely be to determine who
will be at the negotiating table itself. On the Israeli
side, there is a turbulent but moveable coalition, which is
typical of Israel’s lively democracy. On the Palestinian
side, again, there are a number of parties, but they are
deeply divided both geographically and ideologically. Let
us not forget that the Gaza strip has been controlled for
over a decade by the Hamas terror group, which is committed
to the destruction of Israel.
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Does my hon. Friend agree that Hamas cannot be a partner to
the peace process unless it changes its ideology, renounces
violence and accepts the state of Israel?
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I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention and agree with
every point he made. I am sure we will hear more from the
Minister on that in his summing up.
Israel has released Palestinian prisoners who are guilty of
committing deadly terror attacks as part of the Palestinian
demands for the resumption of peace talks, but I join
Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu and the international
community in calling for a return to negotiations without
preconditions. It is difficult to see who will be sitting
around the negotiating table when the leadership of Gaza
and the west bank is so bitterly divided Geographical
separation is something for the negotiating table. Indeed,
it is almost a decade since a former Israeli Prime Minister
proposed a peace offer involving a route of safe passage
between the west bank and Gaza. Palestinian President Abbas
only recently admitted that he turned down the 2008 offer,
which would have provided for an independent Palestinian
state containing all of the Gaza strip, 94% of the west
bank and the final 6% provided through the long-agreed
principle of land swaps.
However, the ideological division between Hamas and the
Palestinian Authority concerns me more than the issue of
land. Any peace agreement at this time would only be formed
between Israel and the Palestinian Authority in the west
bank, leaving Gaza isolated from a Palestinian state. Yet
Israel stands in the middle of the two parties, in more
ways than one. Recently, the Palestinian Authority
announced that it would no longer pay the full electricity
bill for Gaza, where electricity is provided by Israel. The
reasoning behind the decision is widely seen as a means of
exerting pressure on Hamas to relinquish its hold on Gaza.
Accordingly, Israel has begun reducing electricity and is
now vilified by the international community—this is
illustrative of the entire Gaza crisis.
I strongly believe it is in the interests of all parties
involved that international actions prioritise the union of
a moderate Palestinian leadership that seeks peace, in
order to solve the conflict and bring much needed relief to
the people of Gaza, as well as, of course, to Israel and
the west bank. We must make it absolutely clear to the
Palestinians that, as my right hon. Friend the Member for
Chipping Barnet (Theresa Villiers) stated, naming schools
and squares after terrorists does not show that they are
committed to peace.
I hope that hon. and right hon. Members who choose to dwell
on different obstacles to the peace process make it clear
that although Israel is able to defend itself, we must not
underestimate the impact of the divided Palestinian
leadership and the repeated mantra that Israel is a
temporary entity. I wish the Minister a great deal of much
needed luck in his efforts to encourage Israeli and
Palestinian negotiators to finally sit down together and
make the difficult compromises needed to come to this last
lasting agreement.
5.41 pm
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(Aberavon)
(Lab)
I want to focus my comments today on Gaza, which is the
world’s largest open-air prison. Of the 2 million people
crammed into the 139 square miles of Gaza, more than a
third are under 15 and almost half are under 25. In their
short lives, they have seen a lot—a child born 10 years ago
in Gaza has already lived through three wars, in which one
in five of those who died were children—and their future
looks bleak. According to the UN, we are seeing a process
of “de-development” in Gaza, so that by 2020 the strip may
well be technically uninhabitable. Some 96% of groundwater
in Gaza is unfit for human consumption and the sea is
polluted with sewage. Power shortages mean that were it not
for the increasingly hard-to-obtain fuel that runs
emergency generators, hospitals would go dark. That would
mean up to 40 surgical operation theatres, 11 obstetric
theatres, five haemodialysis centres and hospital emergency
rooms serving almost 4,000 patients a day being forced to
halt critical services. As always, it is the children who
are hit hardest. In April, a five-year-old girl with
cerebral palsy died while waiting for a permit to travel to
a hospital in East Jerusalem—she had already been waiting
for two months. It seems that the bureaucracy of the
blockade held out for longer than that little girl’s health
could.
Meanwhile, in Israel we see a Prime Minister who is driven
not by concern for his nation, but by concern for the
retention of his office. As yesterday’s approval of more
than 1,000 illegal settlement units in East Jerusalem
shows, we see an Israeli Government who are undermining the
integrity of a future Palestinian state and, in doing so,
are undermining themselves and their own security.
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Mrs (Liverpool, Riverside)
(Lab/Co-op)
My hon. Friend draws out clearly the human tragedy of what
is happening today in Gaza, but is he concerned that Hamas
has recently rebuilt 15 of its terrorist tunnels, which are
being prepared for Hamas to launch attacks on the civilians
of Israel?
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I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. I accept that
there is an unacceptable cycle of violence, and clearly all
parties in this conflict need to find a solution, but I
also feel that in the current circumstances Israel holds
the whip hand and it is up to Israel to make that first
move.
The fact is that there can be no security without peace and
no peace without security. A two-state solution is
essential to peace. I do not make that point from a
partisan perspective; rather, I echo the sentiments of the
former head of Mossad, Mr Tamir Pardo. Just two months ago,
lamenting Netanyahu’s apparent rejection of a two-state
solution, he said:
“Israel faces one existential threat”,
and it is not external—Iran or Hezbollah—but “internal”,
the result of a divisiveness in Israel resulting from a
Government who have
“decided to bury our heads deep in the sand, to preoccupy
ourselves with alternative facts and flee from reality”.
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(Ilford North)
(Lab)
My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. Does he agree
that Israel’s founding principles—namely democracy, respect
for the rule of law, and social justice—which have made it
in many respects a great country over the past 50 years,
are being eroded by the Israeli Government when they seek
to silence legitimate human rights organisations, whether
that be B’Tselem or Breaking the Silence, in their own
country? That strikes at the heart of Israel’s fundamental
and very welcome democratic character.
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rose—
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Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle)
Order. Just to help everybody, because I am concerned: if
Members are going to intervene, they have to keep it very
short. I am going to have to cut the time limit, and the
people who are intervening are going to suffer from these
interventions. I want to try to give everybody an equal
chance. This is a very important debate, and I want to make
sure it is fair and open.
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I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Ilford North (Wes
Streeting) and absolutely agree with the sentiments he
expresses. There are particular concerns about the entry
Bill, which would potentially prevent Members of this House
who have expressed concerns about trade with illegal
settlements from entering Israel. This is undermining
Israel’s national interest.
Mr Pardo is right: the blockade and effective occupation of
Gaza, and the illegal settlements, imperil not only the
children of Palestine, subjecting them to a form of
collective punishment for acts that they played no part in
committing, but the future of Israel itself. They create a
deep divide in Israeli society that Pardo sees as
potentially the beginning of a path to civil war.
This year, 2017, marks the 50-year anniversary of the
occupation. We must ask ourselves what a further 50 years
of the politics of oppression, aggression and division will
mean. Those policies have polluted the Israeli body
politic, just as they have the Palestinian. In 2012, the
Israeli Interior Minister Eli Yishai called for Gaza to be
sent
“back to the middle ages”—
well, he is just two hours of electricity a day short of
achieving that objective. If the middle ages is what we
want, it may well be what we get: a life that is nasty,
brutish and short.
Currently, we see an Israel in clinical denial, sipping
cappuccino on the lip of the volcano, and a Palestine in
clinical despair, with an acute sense that politics is
incapable of delivering a solution. As the former Mossad
chief has made clear, the root cause of both is the
blockade and the occupation. I hope that today the House
will speak with one voice, for the sake of both the
Palestinian and Israeli people, in calling for an end to
the blockade, for immediate humanitarian assistance in
Gaza, and for an end to the illegal settlements.
5.48 pm
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(Henley) (Con)
I refer the House to my entry in the Register of Members’
Financial Interests.
Yesterday, there was a debate on the middle east in the
other place. My noble Friend made a typically
interesting contribution. He pointed out that in 1948 there
were 726,000 Palestinians refugees, and 856,000 Jewish
refugees living in Arab lands, yet since then the UN’s
focus has been solely on the Palestinians. He pointed to
the more than 170 resolutions, the 13 UN agencies created
or mandated to look after the Palestinian issue and the
billions of dollars that have been provided to the
Palestinians. Nevertheless, he still hoped that the UK
would do all it could to bring Israelis and Palestinians
around the table to hammer out a solution. I agree with
him.
Israel remains committed to an independent Palestinian
state through, among other things, direct negotiation to
end the conflict. Israel’s Prime Minister, Benjamin
Netanyahu, has repeatedly underlined his commitment to
restarting peace negotiations without pre-conditions.
Israel has accepted the principle of a future Palestinian
state based along 1967 lines and for land swaps to take
place.
Polling in 2016 has shown that there is still an appetite
for a two-state solution among both Palestinians and
Israelis. The figures were almost 60% for Israelis and just
over 50% for Palestinians. The biggest obstacle to peace
involved the infighting between Hamas and Fatah, the
Palestinian approach unilaterally to wanting statehood and
the rearmament in Gaza by Hamas. Personally, I would add to
that the seemingly blinkered approach of the Palestine
Liberation Organisation. When I was last in Ramallah, I
visited the PLO and had talks with its members. I found
that there was little basis on which to have those talks.
There was an attempt to blame us for all the ills of the
region and a dislike for the involvement of anything that
smacked of the private sector. I also wish to stress the
levels of co-operation that already exist between the
Israelis and the Palestinians and to point to one
organisation in particular, Save a Child’s Heart, which I
have visited on a number of occasions and does fantastic
work.
I would be the first to admit that settlement expansion is
counterproductive, and I have made that point to the
Israeli Government, but the settlement issue is not a
permanent obstacle to peace, and it is one of the five
final status issues. It is not the reason for the
continuation of the conflict, as violence predates the
settlements, and the majority of settlers live within
established settlement blocks along the green line, which
are widely anticipated to become part of Israel in the
peace settlement.
The past two years have shown a rising level of terror and
Palestinian incitement in Israel. Since 2015 alone, there
have been around 180 stabbings, 150 shootings, 58 car
ramming attacks and one bus bombing. The result has been
more than 389 terror attacks and over 759 injuries and some
50 Israeli or foreign deaths. The violence escalated to the
point that, in October 2015, an Israeli mother and father
were gunned down in front of their four young children. The
sort of attitude that we have seen from President Abbas is
not very helpful. He vowed to Palestinians that he would
not stop prisoner salaries even if he had to resign,
despite telling the US that he would do so.
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I will not give way, as I am fairly close to the end.
No peace agreement will be able to guarantee peace in the
medium to long term if a generation of Palestinians are
growing up indoctrinated to hate Israel and the Jews. The
Palestinian Authority’s failure to deliver on its
commitment to end incitement and hate education explicitly
undermines the principles and conditions on which the peace
process is built. Although I welcome France’s recent
efforts to promote peace, I do not think that the best way
to make progress is to hold an international conference
without the attendance of the two main parties. We must get
the two main parties around the table at the same time.
5.53 pm
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(Enfield North) (Lab)
New American leadership in the region is important, but
pursuing the “ultimate deal” is about much more than
carving up some troublesome real estate. The culture,
history, hopes and fears of both Israelis and Palestinians
must be respected, cherished and, where necessary,
assuaged. It is also crucial that any US initiative
supports the valuable work that Israel, Egypt and Jordan
have undertaken over the past year to explore a renewed
Arab peace initiative. With its close ties to both Israel
and many Arab states, Britain is uniquely positioned to
play a positive role in fostering an environment conducive
to those efforts.
We have heard much today about the obstacle to peace
presented by settlement building. I agree that it is wrong
for Israel, the Palestinians and the prospects of peace,
but, as the former US Secretary of State, John Kerry,
suggested last December, the settlements are not
“the whole or even the primary cause of this conflict.”
As the Clinton parameters and the Geneva initiative have
demonstrated, with compensating land swaps, the problem of
settlements is not an insurmountable barrier to a two-state
solution.
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Although settlements may not be an obstacle, they are
certainly a problem, especially at a time, as my right hon.
Friend mentioned, when Israel’s relations with the
surrounding Arab states are at a better pitch than many of
us can ever remember. Is it not, therefore, regrettable
that the Netanyahu Government are proceeding with
settlements when this could be a unique opportunity?
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I never made any secret of my opposition to settlement
building. It is regrettable. A better move towards peace
would be if Mr Netanyahu did what I suggested when I stood
on a platform with him, and he froze all settlement
building.
In the event of an agreement, settlements will, of course,
be the cause of anger and conflict in Israel, as they were
in 1981 and 2005—so, understandably, will be the release of
terrorist prisoners and resolving the status of Jerusalem,
especially when some deny the Jewish people’s historic
connections to that holy city. Some will say that the price
is too high. However, I believe that the Israeli people
will pay that price if it offers the genuine prospect of a
lasting peace. But will they be convinced that the prospect
of peace is genuine when Hezbollah and Hamas, backed up by
Iran, stand on the border and threaten to wipe Israel from
the map? Will they be convinced that the prospect of peace
is genuine when the Palestinian Authority incentivises
terrorism by paying salaries to those convicted of heinous
crimes and, as we have heard, names schools, sports
tournaments and town squares after so-called martyrs?
President Abbas claimed, barely a month ago:
“we are raising our youth, our children, our grandchildren
on a culture of peace”.
Some in the international community, such as Denmark and
Norway, are showing the willingness to hold him to his
words.
I support Department for International Development aid for
health and education projects in Palestine, and the crucial
investment being made to help to train the PA’s security
forces, but it is now high time for Britain to do likewise.
Perhaps DFID could begin by finding out whether any of the
several thousand teachers and other essential education
public servants whose salaries it helps to pay actually
work in the two dozen or so schools named after terrorists.
I sought that assurance unsuccessfully from Ministers in
March.
I again ask Ministers to establish an independent inquiry
into how our aid money can best support a two-state
solution. There are a great many Palestinians and Israelis
who genuinely wish to foster a culture of peace. I have met
many of them, especially in the inspiring co-existence
projects such as Middle East Entrepreneurs of Tomorrow,
OneVoice and the Parents Circle Families Forum. Those
organisations bring together Israelis and Palestinians in a
spirit of peace and reconciliation. That is why I urge the
Government to reverse their elimination of UK support for
co-existence projects and back the establishment of an
international fund for Israeli-Palestinian peace to give
this vital work the investment it needs today.
In only the past couple of days, the co-existence fund has
received the support of the Board of Deputies and the
Jewish Leadership Council. It would be a very positive
move. By supporting civil society projects that establish
strong constituencies for peace in Israel and Palestine, we
have a chance to help build the foundations of trust,
co-operation and co-existence on which any lasting
settlement must be constructed.
I welcome the Minister back to the Front Bench. I have
confidence that he can help to guide his Government to find
a better way forward for our position on this matter.
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Mr Speaker
On account of the level of interest, I am afraid that the
time limit on Back-Bench speeches has to be reduced to four
minutes for each speech with immediate effect.
5.59 pm
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(East Renfrewshire)
(Con)
It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for
Enfield North (Joan Ryan).
On the centenary of the Balfour declaration—the work, of
course, of a Scottish Conservative—we must recognise not
only the past, of the founding of the state of Israel, but
the present and the hope of the future. Israel has been a
success story, and it is a beacon of hope in an often
troubled middle east. As the region’s only functioning
democracy, it shares many of our values.
Sadly, for all Israel’s successes, peace has eluded the
region. As it stands, Israel does not live in peace and
security; there is the threat of rockets from Hamas in Gaza
and Hezbollah in Lebanon, endangering 70% of the Israeli
population, and a spate of deadly car-ramming, stabbing and
shooting attacks in Israel and the west bank have killed
more than 50 people since October 2015.
This terror is of real concern to many of my constituents.
As I mentioned in my maiden speech on Monday evening, East
Renfrewshire has the highest Jewish population in Scotland.
Over 50% of the Scottish Jewish community choose to make it
their home, and many will have relatives serving in the
Israel defence forces. Some have, sadly, even been touched
by the barbarity of terrorism. Yoni Jesner, a young man
about to undertake a medical degree, who studied at Belmont
House School in Newton Mearns, had his life taken from him
in a Tel Aviv bus bombing—he was 19. We remember him and
pay tribute to his mother, Marsha Gladstone, and others who
are carrying on his memory with the Yoni Jesner Foundation.
These crimes, of course, are committed not only against
Israelis. The Palestinians have still not achieved a
sovereign state, and Hamas continues to betray ordinary
Palestinians and to condemn them to endless rounds of
suffering and exploitation. The ongoing Hamas-Fatah feud
recently led to the deaths of three children, for whom
hospital care was not expedited in Israel.
Despite this violence, it is vital that the UK continues to
take an active role in encouraging both sides to come
together for direct talks to achieve the peace we all want
to see, but this must be done in an even-handed way. What
we need are politicians who are committed, yes, to the
creation of a viable and sovereign Palestinian state, but
who are equally clear that this must be achieved alongside
a safe and secure Israel.
As other Members have mentioned, the appetite for peace and
the two-state solution is still alive among the majority of
Israelis and Palestinians. Despite terror attacks,
incitement and widespread disillusion, there remains
significant support for the two-state solution among both
populations, and that should strengthen our resolve and
fill us with hope. The Government must take the opportunity
not only to solidify but to build on that support, by
providing further funding to peaceful co-existence projects
in Israel and the west bank which do such important work in
supporting peace and bringing communities together. That
work lays the ground for the day after a peace deal is
reached.
The two-state solution is the only path to a prosperous
Israel within a peaceful middle east, safeguarding the
Jewish, democratic nature of Israel, while securing a
lasting peace with the Palestinians. Indeed, talk of the
possibility of a one-state solution serves only to embolden
hard-liners on both sides of the conflict.
Peace will also not be achieved by international support
for boycotts and counterproductive unilateral measures
against Israel. In fact, every such measure pushes peace
further away, often undermining and prohibiting
participation in vital cross-community initiatives,
particularly cultural ones, which do so much to promote and
foster understanding and cohesion.
Ultimately, it is, of course, down to the two parties to
agree a way forward, but we should do all in our power to
encourage both sides to resume this process and finally
bring about an end to the conflict.
6.02 pm
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Mrs (Liverpool, Riverside)
(Lab/Co-op)
The Israeli-Palestinian dispute is an ongoing tragedy. The
Jewish and Palestinian people are entitled to
self-determination. Zionism is the movement for Jewish
self-determination in the state of Israel, and it derives
from a centuries-old Jewish attachment to, and living in,
the middle east, in what is now the state of Israel. I
abhor the use in certain quarters of the term “Zionism” as
a term of abuse; that must be stopped, and it must be
stopped wherever it comes from.
The only way this tragic situation can be resolved is
through direct negotiations between the two parties to form
two states—Israel and Palestinian—that are mutually
recognised, with major international economic support for
the new Palestinian state. Issues such as permanent
borders, security, refugees and the status of Jerusalem can
be resolved only as part of an end-of-conflict deal reached
through that direct negotiation. A stable agreement would
be much more likely if it was part of the renewed Arab
peace initiative. There has been a great deal of movement
and change recently across the middle east, and the renewed
Arab peace initiative is extremely important and must be
taken up.
The barriers to securing that peace between Israelis and
Palestinians are significant on both sides. They include
the question of settlements; I agree that settlements are a
barrier, but they are not the only barrier, and they are
barrier than can be resolved. It must be remembered that
Israel withdrew from its settlements in Sinai in 1978 as
part of the peace agreement that exists to this day, and it
withdrew from its 21 settlements in Gaza in 2005, when the
settlers were forced to withdraw. It was anticipated at
that stage that that would be followed by peace in Gaza and
peaceful relations with Israel. Instead, the terrorist
organisation Hamas overthrew the Palestinian Authority and
has since been running Gaza, much to the detriment of its
people.
The Palestinian refusal to accept Israel’s legitimacy as a
majority Jewish state, firmly part of the middle east, is
also a barrier to peace, and it is high time that the
Palestinians changed that position.
Incitement and terrorism are also barriers. Since 2015, as
hon. Members have already mentioned, Palestinian terrorism
has resulted in 180 stabbings, 150 shootings, and 58
ramming attacks with vehicles, causing 50 civilian deaths
and the wounding of more than 759 Israelis. That is not the
way to secure peace, and this incitement must stop. Naming
Palestinian Authority schools after terrorists also
undermines Israeli confidence.
I must also refer to Iran’s activities in the region,
particularly in supporting Hezbollah, urging and
encouraging it to set up new bases in Lebanon ready to
attack Israel. Again, I deplore the humanitarian situation
in Gaza, but Hamas’s rebuilding of 15 terrorist tunnels to
launch an attack on Israel does not bode well for peace.
However, these barriers to peace can be overcome. There is
a vision to be had—the vision put forward by the late
President of Israel, Shimon Peres, who spoke about the
future of the middle east, with two nations, Israel and
Palestine, working together as part of a new middle east.
Let us hope that this debate contributes to securing that
end.
6.06 pm
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(Aberdeen South)
(Con)
I draw Members’ attention to my entry in the register for a
trip to Israel and the west bank last year.
The Balfour declaration of 1917 is one of the most
significant and important letters in history. When
incorporated into the Mandate of Palestine in 1922, the
historical connection between the Jewish people and
Palestine was recognised, and it has demonstrated the UK’s
crucial and integral role in creating a homeland for the
Jewish people. The UK has held an unwavering commitment to
a two-state solution, and as we proudly mark the centenary
year of the Balfour declaration, we are presented with a
unique opportunity to renew the middle east peace process.
We know that the way to achieve a genuine peace is for the
two sides in this conflict to sit down together in direct
peace talks to work together towards a resolution and a
lasting peace.
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is complex, and there is
only so much you can learn from textbooks and the media.
Visiting the region last year and being able to speak to
people on the ground, on both sides of the conflict,
provided me with the greatest insight possible into the
issues. Israel is an open and liberally democratic country
that values freedom of speech, allowing people from all
backgrounds and beliefs to express themselves. It is a
country that celebrates diversity. You will find churches,
mosques and synagogues standing almost side by side, and
see Jews, Muslims and Christians living alongside each
other in peaceful coexistence. Surrounding Israel, the rest
of the region includes dictatorship and the oppression of
women and minorities, and in some failed states we have all
too regularly seen images of young gay people being thrown
off the top of buildings and women stoned on the streets.
This stands in stark contrast to Israel’s diversity and
freedom. It truly is a beacon of democracy and hope in a
troubled region.
I further discovered that there are tremendous synergies
between my own area, Aberdeen, and Tel Aviv. Tel Aviv has a
buzzing entrepreneurial culture, and its creative energy
and early-age innovation is simply unparalleled. Similarly,
in Aberdeen we have a strong entrepreneurial spirit, and
there is huge potential for greater partnership working
between these two cities.
I am deeply concerned by Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions
protests in my constituency. They have been actively trying
to drive an Israeli cosmetics counter out of business,
holding it unfairly accountable for Government policy by
assuming that the Israeli Government represent the views of
every Israeli citizen. In Aberdeen, poisonous and divisive
banners stating, “Anti-Semitism is a crime, Anti-Zionism is
a duty”, have been displayed while handing out unfounded
propaganda. This is wholly unacceptable, and it serves to
polarise the debate, undermine community relations,
undermine peace efforts and increase tensions.
Today, I join colleagues who have called for the Home
Secretary to consider urgently a full ban on Hezbollah, an
organisation that believes not in peace, but only in the
extermination of Israel. We need to look at the actions of
Hezbollah, and the Government should judge it on those
actions. Hezbollah cannot be forgiven for its criminal,
terrorist, or militant pursuits simply because it engages
in political or humanitarian ones. I urge the Government to
join our closest allies in the US, Canada and the
Netherlands in proscribing Hezbollah.
The biggest obstacles to the advancement of peace include
Hamas’s rearmament drive in Gaza and internal fighting
between Hamas and Fatah, as well as growing support for a
one-state solution in Palestine that could effectively
remove the existence of Israel. Neither is the advancement
of peace supported by the Palestinian Authority’s
unilateral actions to try to gain statehood recognition at
the UN before any peace process has been agreed.
With all the instability across the region and the
continuing distrust between the two sides, a two-state
solution still seems too far off. However, in this
centenary year, let us seize the opportunity to bring about
a lasting peace for both sides.
6.10 pm
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(Edinburgh South West)
(SNP)
I refer to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial
Interests, which relates to my visit to the west bank last
October on a cross-party parliamentary delegation sponsored
by the Council for Arab-British Understanding and the
Muslim charity Human Appeal.
As a lawyer, I wish to address the Israeli Government’s
flouting of international law and their failure to observe
the rule of law in the Occupied Palestinian Territories.
Many constituents write to me and come to speak to me about
these issues. Israel is in breach of international law in
both the fact and the manner of its continued occupation of
the west bank. Two parallel systems of law operate in the
Occupied Palestinian Territories, depending on whether
someone is an Israeli or a Palestinian, and that is not
right. These issues must be addressed if any talks are to
be meaningful.
Others have spoken eloquently about settlements, and it is
clear that they contravene the fourth Geneva convention.
But I want to speak about military courts, which I observed
in operation last year. One law covers Israeli civilians
who have been transplanted into the occupied territories,
but Palestinians are subject to military law. Israel is the
only country in the world that automatically prosecutes
children in military courts.
Many lawyers more distinguished than myself have expressed
concern about the way in which these courts conduct their
operations, and I saw with my own eyes the basis for those
concerns when I visited with Military Court Watch and saw
that there was scant regard for justice or the rule of law
in those courtrooms. Many Palestinians see a lawyer very
shortly before their first appearance in what can only be
described as a farcical process. We saw one young
Palestinian man on trial for allegedly throwing stones at a
settler car. It was said by his interrogator that he had
been interrogated in Arabic, but that the audio recording
had been lost. The young man was insistent that he had been
interrogated in Hebrew, a language that he did not
understand. In any court I have ever been in, if there had
been such a dispute and the audio recording had been lost,
the trial would not have proceeded, but in this case it
did.
I also want to say something about the son of friends of my
constituent Carol Morton, who is the director of
development at Palcrafts and Hadeel Palestinian fair trade
shop in Edinburgh, a Church of Scotland-run organisation
that supports Palestinian fair trade. This young man was
lifted several months ago for allegedly throwing two
stones. He has been in custody since then, and his parents
have got visits only as a result of Red Cross intervention.
His name is Wadea Badawi, and his parents are Lousi and
Mohammed. On one occasion when they visited him, his legs
were tied, his head was shaved and he had been beaten. This
young man has not been found guilty of anything, and that
is how he is being treated. Even if his case comes to a
resolution at its much-delayed next trial date on 16 July,
he will not be released until the autumn.
Does the Minister really believe that an Israeli military
court that behaves in such a fashion, and that has a
conviction rate of just short of 100%, is one that can
command the confidence of the international community? I do
not, and I think it is important that Members from all
parties speak out against Israel’s violation of
international law and of the rule of law. There should be
no pussyfooting around these issues. Just as we must
condemn terrorism, we must condemn so-called democratic
states that violate international law and do not observe
the principles of the rule of law.
6.14 pm
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Ms (Wealden) (Con)
The urgency with which this Parliament must help with the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict was shown by the five debates
held and 19 written statements made during the last
Parliament. It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that
there is no longer any real urgency being shown by either
side of the debate about progressing towards a two-state
solution. While the Israelis have become used to a status
quo that delivers security for them, Palestinians have
become ever more divided, as Hamas continues to clash with
more moderate Palestinian factions. Alongside the ever
present and ever increasing issue of illegal settlements, a
two-state solution is therefore sliding further out of
view.
The current governing coalition in Israel is the most
right-wing in the country’s history. Since the start of the
year, the Israeli Government, emboldened by the new Trump
Administration, have announced the creation of more than
6,000 new buildings in the Occupied Palestinian
Territories, and have attempted to legitimise them through
the Land Regularisation Bill. The UN middle east envoy,
Nickolay Mladenov, has condemned the Land Regularisation
Bill, fearing that it may
“greatly diminish the prospects for Arab-Israeli peace”.
The retroactive legalisation of 55 settlements and roughly
4,000 housing units is a significant step away from a
peaceful solution.
Let us take the case of Bethlehem, which has a population
of 220,000. Surrounding the town are 100,000 illegal
Israeli settlers, complete with vast security zones to
protect them. These security zones have cut off Bethlehem
from its historical connection with its twin city,
Jerusalem. While these settlements are in place, it is
impossible to imagine a situation in which a peaceful
solution between Palestine and Israel can be found.
Many within the Israeli community used to argue that
settlements provided an extra level of security for the
Israeli state. Ami Ayalon, a former director of Shin Bet,
the Israel Security Agency, has called this into question.
The volatility and mistrust created by illegal settlement
activity is increasingly putting Israeli people and
soldiers at risk. Furthermore, even the former Israeli
Prime Minister Ehud Barak has emphasised that, in
continuing with this policy, Israel is creating an
apartheid reality.
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On the gap between Bethlehem and Jerusalem, does my hon.
Friend share my concern about the reality of the
communities simply not meeting because of how the
checkpoints are run? The opportunities for Israelis and
Palestinians to get to know and understand each other have
been continually reduced by the way in which the situation
has to be policed.
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Ms Ghani
I agree with my hon. Friend that it just creates further
friction when people do not know each other and fear each
other.
While the US Administration under Obama abstained on UN
resolution 2334, the newly elected Trump Administration
risk creating a vacuum on the world stage. President
Trump’s threat to move the American embassy from Tel Aviv
to Jerusalem has further fuelled fears that his
Administration will not push for a two-state solution. I am
pleased that the United Kingdom voted for resolution 2334
and condemned the passage of the Land Regularisation Bill,
but the Government must now step forward and fill that
vacuum.
There are three areas in which the Government can exert
pressure. First, the Israeli blockade of the Gaza strip is
neither productive nor appropriate, and the Minister must
call for its further relaxation. Relaxing the blockade
would weaken Hamas’s hand in the region, and allow for
further reconciliation with the Palestinian Authority.
Secondly, to that end, we must encourage Israel to allow
more reconstruction aid to enter Gaza. Tension in the Gulf
states has meant that Qatari attempts to get aid in have
proved fruitless, and Israel is well positioned to help to
rebuild a war-torn society. Thirdly, the draconian
restrictions in place on Palestinians wanting to move
across the west bank continue to stoke further tensions,
and by easing some of this control Israel could firmly send
a message that it wants a peaceful solution and is willing
to work towards it.
Although we are right to support Israel both locally and
internationally in relation to the very difficult security
situation in the middle east, it is precisely because we
are its friends that it is our duty to stand up on the
international stage and make it clear that we fully support
a two-state solution and will not advocate or endorse any
Israeli action that makes such a prospect less likely.
6.19 pm
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(Hammersmith)
(Lab)
It is a pleasure to follow the excellent speech of the hon.
Member for Wealden (Ms Ghani), which I am sure was heard by
the Minister. We are all happy to see the Minister back,
although I agree with the shadow Foreign Secretary that it
is a shame the Foreign Secretary could not turn up to a
debate in Government time on this important issue. However,
we are all very grateful to have listened to the Minister’s
views on this subject, rather than the Foreign Secretary’s,
as I suspect he is rather better informed.
This is a year of anniversaries, as we have heard from many
hon. Members. It is 10 years since the beginning of the
blockade of Gaza, 100 years since the Balfour declaration
and 50 years since the occupation. One anniversary would be
significant; I hope that three are concentrating our minds.
The key is occupation. If we truly want to fulfil the
unfulfilled part of Balfour,
“that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil
and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in
Palestine”—
and those rights certainly have been prejudiced in the west
bank and Gaza over the past 50 years—we need to end the
occupation.
We have heard the humanitarian situation in Gaza described
graphically. As was said, there have been three attacks by
the IDF, one of the most powerful armies in the world, on
the civilian population of Gaza, with thousands of people
killed. I condemn all atrocities on either side—deaths and
injuries on either side are appalling—but I wish we could
have some recognition from the Members who have spoken in
graphic terms about individual acts of terrorism of the
thousands of people who have been killed in Gaza over the
past 10 years, many of them children.
In discussing the need to end the occupation, let me
contrast two things. The first is the abject failure of
talks over the past 25 years since Oslo. It is not a
coincidence that the talks have failed in that way. Many
realistic proposals were made by Rabin before his
unfortunate murder. The Arab peace initiative, which has
been mentioned, is 15 years old and presents an easy and
straightforward blueprint for peace: recognition by the
states of the Arab League of Israel on pre-1967 borders and
east Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state. That
is a real basis for peace that the Israelis have never been
able to approach thus far, or have never been persuaded by
the international community to approach.
On the other hand, there is the remorseless growth of
settlements. In the last year or so, we have seen a change
in the type and intensity of settlement growth. The 1,800
units in east Jerusalem, including around Sheikh Jarrah in
the heart of east Jerusalem, that have been announced in
the last couple of days are a fundamental game-changer, as
are E1 and the new settlements between Bethlehem and east
Jerusalem. All of those will make a viable Palestinian
state impossible. There has been a 70% increase in
settlement building on the west bank in the last year.
These are continuing breaches of international humanitarian
law and the fourth Geneva convention.
John Kerry has said that
“the status quo is leading towards one state and perpetual
occupation”.
Just last week, the Secretary-General of the UN, António
Guterres, said that
“the only way to achieve the inalienable rights of the
Palestinian people”
is by ending the occupation. That is the issue at the heart
of this and unless it is addressed, we will get nowhere.
That is what I look to the Minister to address in his
concluding comments.
6.23 pm
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(Hendon) (Con)
I draw the House’s attention to my entry in the Register of
Members’ Financial Interests as an officer of the
Conservative Friends of Israel.
I welcome the debate because the issue of Israel and
Palestinian talks is very important. Israel supports the
establishment of a Palestinian state through the process of
direct peace talks without preconditions. We can see that
through the withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 and the release of
104 Palestinian terrorists in 2013. At the same time, all I
see from the Palestinian Authority is its continued
counterproductive unilateral steps to gain recognition of
statehood at the United Nations. What it could not achieve
through war, terrorism and violence, it seeks to achieve
through international opinion.
As has been mentioned, the House debated this matter on 13
October 2014. I recall the words of the hon. Member for
Wrexham (Ian C. Lucas), who was on the Opposition Front
Bench:
“That is why—the hon. Member for Hendon (Dr Offord) should
heed this—since 2011, when the Leader of the Opposition
made Labour policy clear, Labour has supported Palestinian”
statehood
“at the United Nations.”—[Official Report, 13 October 2014;
Vol. 586, c. 96.]
That is pretty clear.
During the general election, the Labour candidate in
Hendon, who was a member of the Jewish Labour movement,
said it was inevitable that Palestinian recognition would
occur. As I said to him in many hustings and online, no it
is not. I say it again to Labour Front Benchers: no it is
not. I had hoped earlier today to receive a confirmation
from the shadow Foreign Secretary, but no answer came from
her about the Opposition’s position. I asked her a yes or
no question; she failed to answer. Unilateral actions to
recognise the state of Palestine before an agreement has
been reached in direct talks between Israel and the
Palestinian Authority directly harm the peace process and
the possibility of a lasting two-state solution.
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Dr Offord
I will extend the same courtesy to the right hon. Lady that
she gave to me and say no, thank you.
Unilateralism is a rejection of the peace process, not a
means to revive it. I am therefore grateful that the
Minister has made very clear today the commitment from the
Government and the Conservative party—our actions speak
louder than words—to reject Palestinian recognition before
the peace talks. We have confirmed that we will continue to
support the Oslo agreement; any other action would reject
it. The Government and the Conservative party will continue
our endeavours to assist in the creation of a two-state
solution so that both countries—Palestine and Israel—can
live in peace side by side.
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On a point of order, Mr Speaker. I made Labour’s position
perfectly clear—it is in the manifesto. We think that the
state of Palestine should be recognised. I answered that in
my speech. I do not understand the hon. Gentleman’s
problem, and it is such a shame he did not take my
intervention.
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Mr Speaker
Yes, well I think that might be called a point of
frustration, or alternatively a point of explanation, but I
am afraid that we will have to leave it there. No further
chuntering from a sedentary position from either side of
the Chamber is required, or indeed beneficial.
6.27 pm
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(Strangford) (DUP)
I welcome the Minister back to his place. I wish him the
best happiness in his new position for the years ahead.
As a well-known friend of Israel, and as someone who is
passionate about freedom and democracy, it is a pleasure to
speak in the debate. In the centenary year of the Balfour
declaration, it is timely that we discuss the resumption of
peace talks. It is also important that we remember the
support that Britain gave for a Jewish democratic state,
and the incredible achievement that the state of Israel has
been. My belief in the rightness of that state and the
support that we should have for our allies remains strong.
Israel celebrates democracy, has a liberal and open
society, and protects the rights of all its minorities. It
is a goal of mine to see other countries throughout the
world reach the level of protection afforded to all who
live in Israel. It is telling that up to 200,000 Arabs who
did not flee during the war of independence in 1948 were
absorbed into Israeli society as equal citizens. Their
descendants make up Israel’s 1.7 million-strong Arab
minority today. Israel is the only country in the region
with an increasing Christian population. It stands as an
oasis of religious freedom in the middle east.
In the west bank, 15% of the population were Christian in
1950. Christians make up only 2% of the population today.
Under Hamas in Gaza, Christians face hostile treatment and
the population is in steady decline. I do not wish to
vilify Palestine—that is not my role or desire—but wrong
has been done by many individuals of many creeds and races.
It is unfair to attribute one act to a nation or people,
but at this stage I should point to the words of our
ambassador to the UN, who earlier this year said that
“as long as terrorists are treated as martyrs, peace will
be distant. The scourge of anti-Semitic, racist and hateful
language must be excised from the region.”
I agree with that wholeheartedly.
The Oslo accords legally bind Israel and Palestine to
abstain from incitement and hostile propaganda. It is clear
to me that the Palestinian leadership has not taken all the
appropriate steps that are needed to deliver on that
commitment, which has definitely played a role in the
latest wave of violence by youths, who have killed 50
Israelis and foreign nationals in stabbings, shootings and
car rammings.
The Minister will know that UK taxpayers’ aid has freed up
funds for the Palestinian Authority to reward terrorists
with a monthly salary. Some £254 million has been used for
that practice, which is 7% of the authority’s budget and
20% of its foreign aid receipts.
I ask the Minister, in his dual role at the Foreign and
Commonwealth Office and the Department for International
Development, to ensure greater scrutiny of the Palestinian
Authority’s budget. Simply stating that our aid does not go
to terrorists is not enough. Our constituents do not want
their hard-earned money to benefit those who promote
terrorism.
On the northern border, Israel continues to face the threat
of Hezbollah. The terror group has amassed some 150,000
Iranian-supplied rockets capable of striking all of Israel.
We must stand with Israel against those who seek to destroy
its, and our, way of life.
I ask the Minister urgently to consider calls for the
immediate proscription of Hezbollah in its entirety—its
political and militant sides. We need to hold Iran
accountable for its actions. The country provides weapons,
training and funding to both terror groups, and it remains
the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism.
While both sides must come together to restart
negotiations, we must make it clear that the onus is on the
Palestinians to demonstrate their commitment to peace. Let
us grasp the opportunity that the centenary of the Balfour
declaration brings and make it clear to the Palestinians
that they must truly renounce violence and finally
recognise Israel as a Jewish state, the only state of the
Jewish people, for it is only when both sides respect each
other’s right to self-determination alongside one another
that a lasting peace will finally prevail.
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Ms Ghani
On a point of order, Mr Speaker. Forgive me, but due to the
time restraint, I forgot in my rush to mention my entry in
the Register of Members’ Financial Interests. I visited the
Knesset, at the invitation of the Speaker of the Knesset,
to give evidence on anti-Semitism and Islamophobia.
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Mr Speaker
I am most grateful to the hon. Lady for declaring that via
the mechanism of a point of order. It will have been noted
and appreciated, I am sure, by the House.
6.31 pm
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(Ilford North)
(Lab)
This is the first speech I have made in a debate since the
general election, so I would like to place on record my
heartfelt thanks to my constituents for giving me the
opportunity, and their trust, to serve the people of Ilford
North for a second time. I should also thank the Prime
Minister for her contribution to my election.
I rise this afternoon in exasperation. Despite having been
a Member for only two years, I have, for all of the
excellent speeches, a sense of déjà vu and repetition.
Goodness knows what it is like for those who have been
listening to and taking part in these debates for the last
50 years.
I first visited Israel and the Occupied Palestinian
Territories 10 years ago with the Union of Jewish Students
on a Young Political Leaders trip. Most recently, I visited
with Medical Aid for Palestinians and the Council for the
Advancement of Arab-British Understanding. I spoke to a
wide range of people on both sides of the
conflict—political leaders, civil society and trade union
leaders, and people who have lost family to this bloody
conflict—who have been affected in different ways. At every
point, I try to put myself in the shoes of the people
affected. The exasperation arises because the road map
should be clear: a two-state solution based on 1967 borders
with mutually agreed land swaps and a shared capital in
Jerusalem. All of these things are the only viable solution
for the long-term security and interests of both Israelis
and Palestinians.
The obstacles are also well known. They include but are not
limited to poor political leadership and missed
opportunities; a cycle of violence claiming the lives of
innocent Palestinians and Israelis; the ongoing military
occupation of the west bank; the blockage of Gaza by Israel
and Egypt; and the refusal of people in the region to
accept Israel’s right to exist and the right of
Palestinians to a state of their own. So much of this has
been obvious for so long, yet the prospect of a two-state
solution looks worryingly distant.
Let us put ourselves in the shoes of the Israelis. This
country knows what it is like to experience the threat of
terrorism and political violence. Israel has a right to
defend itself and its citizens, whether from rocket
attacks, incitement to deadly violence and suicide bombings
against Israelis, or from those who would gladly see the
world’s only Jewish state wiped from the map. I have never
supported those who wish to delegitimise the state of
Israel. I have always believed that peace will ultimately
come about through face-to-face negotiations facilitated by
honest brokers, including this country. It will be made
possible, ultimately, by instilling a culture of trust and
a desire for peaceful co-existence on the part of both
Israelis and Palestinians.
Israelis and Palestinians have something in common:
terrible political leadership. That brings me to the
policies of this particular Israeli Government. I have seen
at first hand the impact of Israeli Government policy
towards Palestinians living in the west bank. The ongoing
expansion of illegal Israeli settlements cannot be
justified, nor can the demolition of Palestinian homes, nor
can the use of byzantine laws to seize land from its
rightful owners, nor can the military court system, which
violates the very principles of natural justice, and nor
can the regular intimidation of Palestinian civilians and
international aid workers, who too often are victims of
settler violence. As many Members have said, the
humanitarian crisis in Gaza is simply intolerable and more
must be done to bring an end to that terrible travesty.
This, however, is the question that I ask in response to
comments that have been made today. If I were a young
Palestinian growing up on the west bank or in Gaza, what
hope would I have? Where would I look to, with any sense of
optimism that one day I could live freely in a state of my
own, able to exercise democratic rights or travel the world
as any young person in this country could?
This is the greatest tragedy of all. As I said earlier,
Israel has a proud history as a democratic state, but the
policies of its Government are the greatest weapon—the
greatest tool—that its opponents could have, striking as
they do at the heart of Israel’s proud tradition as an
independent democratic state.
6.35 pm
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(Bradford West) (Lab)
Thank you, Mr Speaker, for inviting me to speak in this
important debate.
Since the Trump Administration came to power, on the
surface they have projected an image of trying to bring
Israel and Palestine back into talks. However, the language
of Trump has been meek, especially in condemnation of
settlement building. Emboldened, the Knesset has reacted by
passing more extreme legislation, and only last month
ground was broken with a new “legal” settlement in the west
bank, for the first time in a quarter of a century.
The truth is that we now feel, in many ways, further from
peace than ever: further than ever from a lasting and
sustainable peace that would allow Israel to exist in
safety and security, bring prosperity, security and
self-determination, and give life to the people of
Palestine—a fair and peaceful settlement.
Only days ago, I met leading expert Professor Paul Rogers,
of the world-renowned peace studies department at Bradford
university. We discussed this issue, and what stood out was
that although, in the current context, some would argue
that the conflict between Israel and Palestine is small by
comparison with that in, say, Syria, in reality it is
massive in terms of its symbolism and the way it is used.
It has a significant impact on how terrorism operates in
the region and beyond. It is used to recruit and encourage
extremists across the world. We must understand that peace
would be more than a stabilising factor within the region;
it would go beyond that. In the battle against vicious
ideologies like that of Daesh, we cannot and must not
underestimate the importance of the Israel-Palestine debate
in the wider context of its influence on terror. There are
groups that seek to exploit it for their own gain, and not
for the prosperity of the people who are trapped in
never-ending conflict.
In 2010, three years after the start of the blockade in
Gaza, said:
“Gaza cannot and must not be allowed to remain a prison
camp.”
However, nearly a decade since the start of that blockade,
the situation is deteriorating rather than improving. It is
certainly nowhere near the vision of our Government in
2010. The infrastructure has been decimated. Bombardment
and power shortages are having devastating consequences in
hospitals, and a particularly devastating effect on water
treatment. It has been estimated that there are more than
51,000 displaced people in Gaza. We must recognise the
conditions of life there: they are not conditions that
anyone should live in, let alone have enforced upon them.
Internationally, there should be no perpetual state of war
and no perpetual state of occupation. This is occupied
territory, and the occupying force has a duty to protect
these people. Three generations of Palestinians will have
grown up knowing nothing but occupation and fear.
We have been debating the two-state solution and the
political parameters of this situation for decades, in the
Chamber and elsewhere, with no peace or negotiations in
sight. We have to find a way to move through this moment
into something better. No doubt there are moderates on both
sides, but concessions are almost impossible. Israel is
impregnable in its insecurities, and that does not bring
long-term security. I call on the Government to tell us not
what they think but what they intend to do. How are we
going to move this process forward? As I said the last time
I spoke, it is time to move beyond condemnation to
accountability.
The fact remains that we have seen 50 years of occupation
and 10 years of blockade, and engagement in every peace
process that has taken place since 1967 is not unilateral.
What has the Oslo agreement brought Palestinians? There has
been a 600% increase in the number of illegal settlements.
It is time to move beyond condemnation.
6.39 pm
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(Edinburgh East)
(SNP)
I too refer the House to my entry in the Register of
Members’ Financial Interests.
Since time is so short, I will concentrate on an aspect
that I do not think has been properly discussed this
afternoon: what is happening to democratic debate and
expression inside the state of Israel. There are
developments there that gravely concern me and should
concern the rest of the House.
There is broad consensus in this Chamber when we have
discussed this issue today and on other occasions: most
people would favour a two-state solution—two democratic
secular states, each reflecting the different traditions of
that region, but each living in peace and harmony with one
another—and in order to get that, a phased end to the
occupation, peace talks and so forth. That was a
mainstream—although perhaps not a majority—political
position inside the state of Israel until quite recently,
and it is probably the majority position of the Jewish
diaspora throughout the world. Yet today inside Israel it
is seen as an extremist position, and people who advocate
it are denigrated and denounced for doing so.
Hagai El-Ad is the director of an organisation called
B’Tselem, an Israeli human rights organisation based in
Jerusalem. Earlier this year he addressed the United
Nations in terms not dissimilar to many who have
contributed today. The response of Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu was personally to launch a Facebook tirade
against him and to threaten to change the law to prevent
people doing national service from working for that
organisation. As a consequence, others joined in and that
organisation and its officials received thousands of
threats, including death threats. That is what they got for
daring to criticise the Israeli Government. It would be a
little like the Prime Minister of this country doing the
same thing against the director of Liberty for publishing a
report criticising British Government policy in, say,
Northern Ireland.
Breaking the Silence is an organisation that is composed of
veterans of the Israeli army; only those who have served in
the IDF can be members of Breaking the Silence. It is fair
to say that it does not take a mainstream position; it is
critical of the occupation. It is led by a formidable man
called Yehuda Shaul who told me to my face that he was a
proud Zionist but his main concern is that Israel’s biggest
threat was the occupation of Palestine itself, and that is
why he wanted it to end.
That organisation has campaigned long and hard within
Israel to try to put an alternative point of view. What is
the response of Israeli politicians? Some in the Knesset
have tabled motions calling for the organisation to be
outlawed as a terrorist organisation. That did not get very
far, but a law has been passed in the Knesset to make it
illegal for Breaking the Silence to go into schools and
colleges and speak to young people about the choices facing
them. That is hardly a liberal position.
There are many other similar examples, including the no
contact policy of Mr Netanyahu. He has said that any
international Government or organisation that makes contact
with organisations that are critical of the Israeli
Government will not speak to the Israeli Government. He
said that to the German Foreign Minister earlier this year;
the German Foreign Minister had the decency to say that
they will not be told by anyone who they will and will not
speak to, and he went ahead and met Breaking the Silence
and B’Tselem. The response of Mr Netanyahu was to cancel
his meeting with the German Foreign Minister—the Foreign
Minister of one of Israel’s biggest supporters in the
international community. That is the degree of illiberalism
and intolerance, and I seek an assurance from the Minister
that this Government will not bend in their dedication to
consult other opinions within Israel because of threats by
the Israeli Government and will not be cowed into refusing
to recognise the plurality of discussion that is needed.
6.43 pm
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(Batley and Spen)
(Lab/Co-op)
I echo the comments of my hon. Friend the Member for Ilford
North (Wes Streeting) and of the Minister who said at the
beginning of the debate that this House has knocked around
these issues for over 30 years. Today’s debate is welcome
but, sadly, feels slightly like the film “Groundhog Day”.
We debate and discuss, emotions and injustices are raised,
we demand peace for the region, yet nothing changes and we
do it all again six months later: a carousel of misery,
false hope and inaction.
Israeli people continue to live in fear of violence, bombs
fall on Gaza—as they did again this week—Palestinians are
still living in fear of their homes and communities being
occupied with no notice, and thousands of Palestinians are
still being held in Israeli prisons, many without charge.
We can only thank those people on the ground working day
and night to maintain peace that we are not in the middle
of a similar increase in violence to that we witnessed in
recent years. But it is not all negative. There have been
numerous times when it feels as though progress has been
made. As my right hon. Friend the Member for Islington
South and Finsbury (Emily Thornberry) has said, in October
2014 this House voted by 274 votes to 12 in favour of a
motion to recognise Palestine as a state alongside Israel.
That was a brave and welcome decision. As the right hon.
Member for Rutland and Melton (Sir Alan Duncan) said at the
time:
“Recognition of statehood is not a reward for anything; it
is a right.”—[Official Report, 13 October 2014; Vol. 586,
c. 72.]
Recognising Palestine as a state gives moral and political
support to moderate Palestinian voices pushing back against
violent extremists, and I would encourage the House to
decide on a timeframe for that to happen.
Only last year, the United Nations passed a resolution
condemning the occupations. Settlements are illegal under
international law. They breach the fourth Geneva
convention, which prohibits the transfer of the occupier’s
“own civilian population into the territory it occupies”.
But the UN resolution was passed only because of President
Obama’s support, and now, with a new and very different
President in place, we need clarification on what
conversations the Government have had with him. Will they
clarify whether he is of the same opinion as the rest of
the international community?
Generations on both sides simply cannot continue to be
brought up witnessing the brutality of war, fearing for
their lives, and stressed and anxious about the future. The
middle east and the entire international community need
peace. More than anything, children should have the right
to a childhood, to be a child, to play, to learn and to be
happy. I would like to draw the House’s attention to the
serious and ongoing situation of Palestinian child
detainees. At the moment, 182 children are being held in
Israeli military detention, most on stone-throwing charges,
and 46% of them are being held in violation of the fourth
Geneva convention and the Rome statute. The inquiry of 2012
chaired by the former Attorney General, , stated:
“Military law and public administration should deal with
Palestinian children on an equal footing with Israeli
children.”
That is clearly not happening.
It is now 50 years since the occupations began, and that is
50 years too long. Today, just about every respectable
non-governmental organisation, Government and international
community member stands against the occupations. How much
longer can this go on? Let us ask ourselves whether we are
doing all we can to bring peace to this volatile but
beautiful and potentially prosperous region. We need
vision, courage and leadership. Will this Government pledge
to take up the baton and change the narrative by pushing
even harder for peace?
6.47 pm
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(Heywood and Middleton)
(Lab)
It has been a pleasure to be here for this excellent
debate, and to welcome the Minister for the Middle East,
the right hon. Member for North East Bedfordshire (Alistair
Burt), to his position. This is also a significant debate
for me personally, because when I came here as a newly
elected MP, my very first vote in the House was a vote to
recognise the state of Palestine. As the shadow Foreign
Secretary, my right hon. Friend the Member for Islington
South and Finsbury (Emily Thornberry) said earlier, the
vote was won by a majority of 262. I thank all those
speakers on both sides of the House who have made such
passionate and erudite contributions throughout the course
of this debate. I particularly want to thank my hon. Friend
the Member for Peterborough (Fiona Onasanya), who made her
maiden speech today. She set a shining example as one of
Peterborough’s powerful women, and I look forward to her
future contributions in the House.
One common thread has run through all the speeches today:
the urgent need for peace. We are now 100 years on from the
Balfour declaration, and we cannot tolerate a situation in
which yet another generation of Israeli and Palestinian
children grow up understanding violence, division and
extremism as part of their normal lives. We owe it to all
those children to see this conflict from their perspective
and to resolve to end it on their behalf, whether they are
young Israeli children living in fear of the air raid
sirens in Tel Aviv or young Palestinian children living in
grinding poverty in refugee camps behind the Israeli
blockade. Will the Minister tell us what specific steps the
Government are taking to secure humanitarian relief and a
long-term improvement in conditions for all those young
Palestinian children condemned to a life of poverty and
violence simply as a result of where they were born?
On the issue of humanitarian relief, let me ask the
Minister another question. The Foreign Office stated in
December last year, after the Brexit outcome was known,
that the UK’s financial aid to the Palestinian Authority
was best channelled directly through EU funding programmes.
The Foreign Office said that the mechanism
“offers the best value for money and the most effective way
of directly providing support.”
Do the Government intend to continue their participation in
that funding programme even after Brexit? If not, what
alternatives are they putting in place to ensure that they
achieve the same value for money and the same effectiveness
of outcomes?
In conclusion, we have made it clear today that an end to
conflict between Israel and Palestine can be achieved only
when all sides stop taking actions that perpetuate the
conflict and start taking actions that will nurture peace.
That means not only a total end to attacks on the Israeli
people and state and a clear recognition of Israel’s right
to exist, but stepping up efforts to tackle the grinding
poverty, the lack of opportunities and the cycle of
violence in which so many Palestinian children are trapped.
It means having an honest conversation with our Israeli
friends about the actions they can take to ease the
humanitarian crisis, particularly through the lifting of
the blockade. Since 1917, Britain has stood by the two key
elements of the Balfour declaration: working to establish
and protect the national homeland of Israel while ensuring
that nothing is done to prejudice the rights of existing
non-Jewish communities in Palestine. Those remain the key
tenets of Labour’s policy on the middle east, and they are
the key tests that we will apply when judging the policy
statements of this Government. With that in mind, I look
forward to the Minister’s response.
6.51 pm
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I thank the Opposition Front-Bench team for both their
contributions, in particular the short and thoughtful summing
up from the hon. Member for Heywood and Middleton (Liz
McInnes). I echo her remark that this has been an excellent
debate: more than 20 colleagues speaking with great force in
a short period of time about things that they know a lot
about.
Like the hon. Lady, I will start by referring to the new hon.
Member for Peterborough (Fiona Onasanya). She says that she
is a symbol of diversity in her city. That is true, but she
is also a symbol of strength, dignity and clarity, and she
has a passion for the important causes she mentioned. I know
that we will hear more of her. I particularly liked her
concerns about the mental health of army veterans. She will
find out that looking after mental health was another of the
jobs I used to have. She also spoke about achieving her
dreams, and I am quite sure that in doing so she is helping
other girls in her city to do exactly the same. Her
forthright defence of faith, saying that it is mankind’s
frailties, not God’s love, that causes the problem, was heard
and welcomed by many of us.
There was a range of other speeches. My hon. Friend the
Member for Reigate (Crispin Blunt) made a thoughtful
contribution, as befits the most recent Chairman of the
Foreign Affairs Committee. The hon. Member for Birmingham,
Northfield (Richard Burden) spoke with extensive experience
in this area. The hon. Member for Liverpool, Riverside (Mrs
Ellman) drew her speech to a thoughtful conclusion with a
remark from Shimon Peres. My hon. Friend the Member for
Strangford (Jim Shannon) and the hon. Member for Batley and
Spen (Tracy Brabin) both made thoughtful speeches. We heard
optimistic speeches from my hon. Friends the Members for
Cheadle (Mary Robinson), for Henley (John Howell), for East
Renfrewshire (Paul Masterton) and for Moray (Douglas Ross),
picking out a bit of the relationship with Israel which makes
a difference and suggests that there is a future, and
referring to neighbours such as Jordan that have made a
contribution to peace in the area.
There were tough words for the state of Israel from the hon.
and learned Member for Edinburgh South West (Joanna Cherry),
my hon. Friend the Member for Wealden (Ms Ghani), and the
hon. Members for Glasgow North (Patrick Grady), for Aberavon
(Stephen Kinnock), for Hammersmith (Andy Slaughter), for
Bradford West (Naz Shah), for Ilford North (Wes Streeting)
and for Edinburgh East (Tommy Sheppard). All of them referred
to difficult things for the state of Israel to deal with. I
say to the hon. Member for Edinburgh East that I have walked
the streets with B’Tselem and Peace Now and value the
contribution that they have made. I certainly will not be
told to whom I should speak when it comes to those who
represent valued, trusted and moderate opinion in other
states. There were harsh words for the Palestinian side from
my right hon. Friend the Member for Chipping Barnet (Theresa
Villiers), the right hon. Member for Enfield North (Joan
Ryan) and my hon. Friends the Members for Brecon and
Radnorshire (Chris Davies) and for Hendon (Dr Offord). My
hon. Friend the Member for Brecon and Radnorshire made
remarks about Hamas in Gaza, about which I will say a little
more, but we need to be clear about what is happening in Gaza
under the rule of Hamas. We continue to have concerns about
the abuses of human rights and Hamas de facto authorities in
Gaza; 17 death sentences were issued and three were carried
out without the ratification of the Palestinian President. We
continue to have concerns about restrictions on freedom of
expression and of assembly, and on respect for LGBT rights.
We remain deeply concerned that Hamas and other militants are
rearming, rebuilding tunnels and holding military training
camps.
Overall, although the sympathies of colleagues for one side
or another were occasionally clear, it was rare that those
sympathies were not expressed without a recognition that
there were issues on both sides. Although we have spoken
about this a great deal, the recognition that the pain is
serious and that we want to do something about it was clear
for all. I am sorry not to have time to deal with all the
questions raised, but I just want to pick out a little about
the DFID side of this and the support being offered to the
Palestinian people, who are under pressure.
In relation to the Occupied Palestinian Territories, the UK
has provided £349 million-worth of support for Palestinian
development from 2011 to 2015, and a further £72 million in
2015-16. I do not see any suggestion that that is going to
change or falter. The UK pledged £20 million extra for
reconstruction and development in Gaza following the Gaza
reconstruction conference in 2014. We are one of the largest
donors to UNRWA—the United Nations Relief and Works Agency
for Palestine Refugees in the Near East—providing basic
services to approximately 5 million Palestinians, including
70% of the population of Gaza.
Those of us who have visited Gaza know how miserable it is.
If there is one place that we could say stands for the very
reason this conflict must come to an end, it would be Gaza.
The hon. Member for Ilford North asked what a young
Palestinian thinks about their future, but what does the
young Israeli soldier think when they are standing on the
border of Lebanon and being involved in the west bank? What
do they think of their chances of ensuring that their
children no longer have to defend the state of Israel in the
way they feel committed to do. That is the measure of the
task.
If Members want a clear commitment from my right hon. Friend
the Foreign Secretary and myself, they can have it. We do not
know exactly where the United States is on this issue, but we
do know there is a real interest there and a determination to
go to see people and talk to them. The deal is not a simple
one, as we all know, but it is not often that an American
President takes an interest at the start of a first term, and
this provides another opportunity. Most of us in this House
have seen those opportunities come and go over the years, so
this is a chance now that we should all take. We have all
seen enough of this.
To answer the question asked by the right hon. Member for
Islington South and Finsbury (Emily Thornberry), there is no
change in our policy. The United Kingdom’s long-standing
position on the map is clear: we support a negotiated
settlement leading to a safe and secure Israel living
alongside a viable and sovereign Palestinian state, based on
1967 borders, with agreed land swaps, with Jerusalem as the
shared capital of both states, and with a just, fair, agreed
and realistic settlement for refugees. I do not think any
other state is going to tell me that that is not going to be
our continuing policy; I assure her of that.
What are we going to do? We are going to redouble our
efforts. We have to work with international partners and will
continue to engage with those in Israel who are seeking such
a solution. We recognise the concerns of those in Israel who
fear for their security, and they are right to do so, as we
have heard. We know well about the random attacks and the
fears that have affected the people of Israel. Equally, there
will be no ultimate lasting peace unless the hand is reached
out and this time grasped by those on the other side, both in
Gaza and on the west bank, to make something of this. The
United Kingdom will be determined to do everything it can,
and those of us who have a second chance at something that
means a lot will have a really good go at this. I do not
promise an answer, but I do promise an effort.
Question put and agreed to.
Resolved,
That this House has considered Israel and Palestinian talks.
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