Renewable Energy Generation: Island Communities [Sir David
Amess in the Chair] 4.00 pm Mr Alistair Carmichael (Orkney
and Shetland) (LD) I beg to move, That this House has
considered support for renewable energy generation in island
communities. I am delighted to serve under your
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Renewable Energy Generation: Island Communities
[Sir in
the Chair]
4.00 pm
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Mr (Orkney and
Shetland) (LD)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered support for renewable energy
generation in island communities.
I am delighted to serve under your chairmanship, Sir David,
and I am pleased to welcome the Minister to his new role.
He is one in a fairly long line of Energy Ministers during
my tenure in the House—I am not entirely sure how many I
have seen—but he brings with him a reputation for being a
diligent and effective Minister, and I wish him well in his
time in the Department. It is the convention on these
occasions to say how pleased we are to have secured the
debate. Although I will keep my tie on, I will break with
convention by saying that I am not particularly pleased; I
have been around this course for the past 15 years and I am
immensely frustrated that debates of this sort are still
necessary.
I think it will be helpful for those who might be watching
our proceedings from elsewhere to be quite clear not only
what the debate is about but what it is not about. It is
not about individual projects that may be under
consideration; there are a number in my constituency,
including in Orkney and with Viking Energy in Shetland. To
say that we need a strategy to unlock the potential of
renewable energy generation is not to say that any
individual project in itself is right or should go ahead,
nor is it to be confused with the consultation currently
being undertaken by Ofgem on replacing Shetland’s power
station with a 278 km, 600 MW high-voltage direct current
cable. That is exciting some comment at the moment, but it
is a proposal of which I remain to be convinced; having
been around this course for many years, I do not regard it
as quite so difficult or challenging for that particular
project to get a cable on the seabed.
The debate is about how Government and the forces of
government can unlock the potential for renewable energy
generation that we all know is there within our island
communities. A study commissioned jointly by the then
Department for Energy and Climate Change and the Scottish
Government in 2013—the “Scottish Islands Renewable
Project”—estimated that the Western Isles, Orkney and
Shetland could between them supply up to 5% of Britain’s
total electricity demand by 2030. That is a quite
significant prize and it is within our grasp. However, it
is something that we already know will only happen if we
can get everybody working together.
In that connection, I welcome the intervention this morning
from Councillor Donald Crichton, chair of the Sustainable
Development Committee in the Western Isles Council, calling
for cross-party consensus building on this. As he said, the
Conservative party’s manifesto commitment at last month’s
general election to
“support the development of wind projects in the remote
islands of Scotland, where they will directly benefit local
communities”
is an important and welcome step. Similarly, I also place
on the record my appreciation of the efforts of of Helensburgh, who,
in his time as a junior Minister in the Scotland Office and
before, did a lot to push this particular issue.
That manifesto commitment was welcome, and I am pleased
that it has survived the cull of so many other commitments
from that unfortunate document. However, we are looking to
the Minister for some outline of what the commitment will
actually mean in practical terms. If you will forgive me,
Sir David, there is quite a history here, and it is
important that we remind ourselves of some of it. A lot of
the issues that underpin this history come from the fact
that Ofgem—for reasons that are understandable in relation
to non-renewable technologies—has for some time adhered to
a system of locational charging. For renewable projects,
far from the centres of populations and the ultimate points
of consumption, that does not necessarily make the same
sense, so we have looked for different ways around that
over the years.
Back in the days of the late , we tried the idea
of a cap on transmission charges. That was brought in by
him and the then Labour Government, and was then extended
by when he was
Secretary of State for Energy, but that in itself did not
provide the solution we had hoped for. We then moved on to
the new contracts for difference regime, and within that it
was suggested that we could have a dedicated islands strike
price. Unfortunately, at the point that that was being
submitted to the European Commission for state aid
approval, it was felt that it could be delayed by the
islands element, so it was removed for later submission. It
was resubmitted at a later stage and went through the
pre-approval application process, which concluded some time
around the end of 2015.
In the meantime, we had a general election, and the
Conservative Government that came in in 2015 had a
manifesto commitment to have a moratorium on onshore wind
developments. The point at which the Government decided to
go ahead with the CfD auction round that we are currently
part of, without any provision for the islands, sticks in
my memory for two reasons. First, it was the morning after
the American people had elected President Trump, and
secondly, I remember very clearly taking the call from the
Secretary of State on my mobile phone while I was going
through Edinburgh airport. However, a consultation period
followed, which should have ended in the early part of this
year and to which we I think we still await the
Government’s formal response.
I remind the House of that history at this point because it
is germane to the debate. Although the commitment in the
Conservative party’s manifesto from last month is new, the
issue is not—it has been within the machinery of government
for some considerable time. Although we hope that that
commitment will be given the green light, it is far from
the case that the work needs to start from scratch. What is
now needed is the degree of political commitment to
implement the commitment and to tell us exactly what it
means, because time is not in plentiful supply.
If provision for the islands of Scotland is to be included
in the next round of CfD auctions, we are looking at
something that has to go through the machinery of
government and possibly even the state aid consent
procedures in order to be in place by the end of next year,
so there is a need for some degree of urgency in the
approach to this. When the industry hears from the Minister
later, it will be looking for a degree of clarity. We are
not looking for the blueprint on everything that is meant
by the manifesto commitment, but we want to hear some sort
of outline or framework through which this can be turned
into a reality.
What are we looking at here? Are we revisiting the idea of
an islands strike price, or are we looking at something
that might, somehow or another, find a mechanism for
including onshore island generation with offshore wind? I
do not know just how doable that would be, or how workable
it would be from the point of view of the industry, but
those are some of the ideas that have been floated.
Alternatively, does the Department have some new mechanism
that is going to be brought forward?
In any event, when in all those processes will the work
start in order to obtain state aid approvals? I understand
that the Government will proceed on the basis that,
regardless of what happens with Brexit, state aid
regulation compliance remains a feature of our regulatory
landscape for the foreseeable future. Is it the
Government’s aspiration that any projects that would be
brought forward under this new scheme would be eligible for
the next round of CfD auctions? If that is the case, will
the Minister at this stage consult within Government to get
a commitment that the next auction round will not go ahead
unless and until this scheme is in place and island-based
projects are able to compete?
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(Edinburgh South)
(Lab)
I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for allowing me
to intervene in the limited time he has. Will he explain to
the House whether there is any other route to market for
island wind if there is no access to the next round of CfD
funding?
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Mr Carmichael
The answer to that depends on what we mean by “route to
market”. There are other ways in which the energy generated
can be used, and a lot of innovative work is being done in
relation to non-distributing technologies such as the use
of hydrogen, but for all intents and purposes, for the
projects being considered at the moment across the country,
there really is not. Those in the industry will have a view
on that, and if they bring forward something we are not
currently considering, I think we will all be in the market
for hearing it.
Finally and most obviously, we will want to hear in fairly
early course exactly what is meant by the expression
“community benefit”, which has been around the renewables
debate for as long as I can remember and has meant
different things to different people in different places at
different times. If it is to form part of policy, a clearer
definition will be necessary.
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(St Ives) (Con)
I appreciate the opportunity to intervene. Does the right
hon. Gentleman agree that a significant motivating factor
for accelerating the development of renewable technology
has to be reducing household energy bills as part of the
community benefit? Those bills are often higher in island
communities such as the Isles of Scilly in my constituency,
owing to the inaccessibility.
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Sir (in the Chair)
We are fresh from an election, and there are lots of new
Members here. The usual procedure in a short half-hour
debate is that there should be prior discussions with the
person whose debate it is as to whether they are prepared
to take interventions. Of course, there is nothing to stop
any Member intervening on the Minister’s speech.
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Mr Carmichael
I am grateful for that timely reminder, Sir David—although
it has driven from my mind the question that the hon.
Gentleman asked. Perhaps I could write to him about it in
the fullness of time. It was about driving down price,
which is one of the important opportunities of a more
diverse and flexible market structure than the one we have.
The issues faced by my constituents are not dissimilar to
those facing the hon. Gentleman’s constituents in the Isles
of Scilly.
We want to hear a bit from the Minister today about
something beyond the situation regarding wind generation.
We would like to see a willingness from the Minister, his
Department and the Government to engage with the renewables
industry beyond the onshore, or even offshore, wind sector.
The United Kingdom already has a pipeline of wave and tidal
stream projects that could be some of the most significant
and forward-leaning projects to be found anywhere in the
world. The estimates we have seen are in the region of £76
billion-worth of development by 2050. It is a significant
global market for which we are doing the initial heavy
lifting at this point. I have seen in my constituency, and
especially in Orkney over the years, how the industry has
pulled itself up inch by inch, but in recent years it has
been pushed backwards by a lack of dedicated support for
wave and tidal projects. I hope that the Minister, in his
time in the Department, will have some proper regard for
that.
We need a proper ring-fenced pot for wave and tidal power.
A pot of that sort could be transformative. It would not
need to be particularly significant in size, but for it to
be guaranteed would make a massive difference to those
involved in the development of these technologies and would
give a very positive signal to those who are looking at
bringing their projects to this country to develop them and
to put devices in the water at places such as the European
Marine Energy Centre in Stromness. I know the Minister has
not yet visited that centre, but I strongly encourage him
to do so in the earliest possible course, because there he
would see for himself the potential that is being thwarted
by the inclusion of wave and tidal projects within the pot
for emerging or less established technologies, where they
are competing with offshore wind.
To give an illustration of what is involved here, the
offshore wind sector currently has 5,100 MW of installed
capacity, with a further 4,500 MW under construction. The
marine renewables industry, by comparison, has 10 MW of
installed capacity. In that context, it is pretty
straightforward and easy to see which is the genuinely less
established technology that requires the support found in
the title of the pot.
To bring down the costs is not rocket science. We have been
here before and seen it with other low-carbon industries.
We have to get the devices into the water. We see what
happens to them there, learn the lessons, innovate, improve
and repeat. That work is still being done by those who
demonstrate a commitment to marine renewables.
We have a burgeoning supply chain. We have investment from
local councils in Orkney, which I would be happy to show
the Minister. As I indicated to him this morning, we have a
sector that is desperate to re-engage with him and his
Department. I hope that in the time he has in this
position—which I hope is both long and productive—he will
engage with the sector, because the opportunities that it
brings to the future development and the industrial
strategy to which the Government still lay claim are
significant indeed.
4.16 pm
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Richard Harrington)
Sir David, it is as ever a great pleasure to serve under your
constituency—under your chairmanship; I am sure your
constituents feel the same about your activities on
constituency days. In my first Westminster Hall debate, you
were a mere Mr Amess. I am delighted you are here.
The right hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland (Mr
Carmichael)—I remember when he was my right hon. Friend—is a
gentleman in the true sense. The way he has conducted the
debate, on a subject in which he has a lot of interest and
expertise, and the way that he speaks up for renewable energy
generation in island communities, is truly commendable. As he
is fully aware, he has me at a little disadvantage, as I have
been in the job for precisely three weeks. I am not yet the
expert he is, but I would like to make it clear to him and
other Members that I have listened carefully to every word
and intend to set out the Government’s position in what I
hope he will accept is the right way at this stage.
We know that the islands have long been a hotbed for
innovations in renewable energy generation. The Burgar Hill
wind turbine site in Orkney, for example, hosted some of the
most innovative experimental turbines in the ’80s and early
’90s. As has been said, the European Marine Energy Centre,
which is also located on Orkney in the right hon. Gentleman’s
constituency, has since its creation more than 10 years ago
maintained its position as the world’s leading wave and tidal
stream testing facility. The fact that it has hosted the
prototypes for almost all the world’s leading devices,
including the Atlantis turbines deployed in the Pentland
Firth last summer, is a testament to its premier global
status.
I also understand that the grid infrastructure necessary to
support the proposed wind farms on the remote islands of
Scotland could, if built, act as a springboard for further
development of our wave and tidal sector and give this
emerging industry a further boost towards commercialisation,
helping to maintain the UK’s leading position in these
technologies. The challenge for the wave and tidal sector
will be to innovate and to reduce its costs sufficiently that
it can compete with other renewable technologies. Those costs
have fallen significantly during the past few years, and we
fully expect that downward trajectory to continue. This is
now a very competitive market, and developers will need to
respond to that challenge; the sector can no longer take high
subsidies for granted.
As the right hon. Gentleman is aware, my right hon. Friend
the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy visited the Western Isles this year to learn about
this issue at first hand. The hon. Member for Na h-Eileanan
an Iar (Angus Brendan MacNeil) kindly hosted the Secretary of
State’s visit, and I shall take this opportunity to thank him
again for what my right hon. Friend described as a productive
and informative trip. I know that it will not help or please
the right hon. Gentleman unless some action is taken, as he
has pointed out to me.
The issues are clear, and we know what the gains are. I shall
go through the issues in no particular order. The first is
ensuring healthy competition to support the best projects and
get the best value for the consumer, while recognising that
it may take a certain volume of projects to justify building
the all-important new island-to-mainland links. I am aware
that those are a vital piece of the overall picture, with
their own timeframes and set of complex decisions, so there
are really two areas of decision.
The second issue, as the Secretary of State made clear, is
ensuring that local communities, which have been enthusiastic
about this industry, receive appropriate benefits for hosting
these projects.
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Mr (Isle of Wight) (Con)
Excuse me, Sir David, if I do not quite get some of the
etiquette right.
I thank my hon. Friend the Minister for what he has said
about the importance of the popularity of tidal and other
energy-efficient projects. It is right to say that islanders
can play an important role, but does he agree that energy
policies should take into account other policies such as
regard for the landscape? Wind turbines were very unpopular
with many of my constituents, because of the damage that they
did to the landscape in areas of outstanding natural beauty,
but solar panels are more popular. Should wave and tidal
power take off, there would be, again, an aesthetic element
as well. It is wonderful to have these things, but that
should not be at the expense of a tourism economy in a place
such as the Isle of Wight.
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I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. Time does not
permit me to answer in full, but I would be happy to meet and
discuss this subject with him on behalf of his constituents.
Thirdly, we have to define what is meant by “island wind
projects” in a legal context, and that is being done; we are
working through the issues. The right hon. Member for Orkney
and Shetland is very aware of that matter.
Last but not least, we need to give clarity to the developers
of island projects while being fair to developers of other
projects elsewhere and to consumers across the UK.
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Brendan O’Hara (Argyll and Bute) (SNP)
This issue is also very dear to my hon. Friend the Member for
Na h-Eileanan an Iar (Angus Brendan MacNeil), who has been
unavoidably delayed while travelling here today. He is very
concerned, as I am. Given the promises made in the Tory
manifesto and by Tory candidates at the general election,
when will the Government act to introduce an island CfD? The
lack of a CfD and the locational pricing model are severely
hampering the industry on the islands, and this is a vital
sector that we need to survive.
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I can assure the hon. Gentleman that we are aware of that
issue and we are fully on it. I am happy to meet him if he
would like to discuss it separately, but I have only five
minutes left now and I do not want to break into the time for
the key points that I need to raise.
There is a range of options for overcoming the issues that I
have outlined, and I hope that by taking a pragmatic approach
we can do so quickly. We need to understand the costs of the
projects and the impacts on consumers’ bills. My officials
have begun the process of updating the evidence base to set
an appropriate strike price—the maximum that these projects
could get paid for each unit of electricity that they
produce. We must not forget that any additional costs that
arise as a result of awarding support contracts are
ultimately paid by households and businesses in their
electricity bills.
Our approach to supporting new renewables, of competitive
auctions with limits on the maximum price that we will allow,
ensures that we support only the more cost-effective
projects. That approach is not new but has been applied very
successfully to other technologies, such as offshore wind.
The industry is confident that the renewables support auction
currently under way, whose outcome is expected in the coming
months, should lead to a significant further drop in price.
Whatever approach we take will need to work in this context
of quite rapid price changes, and we want to see the outcome
of our current auction before making decisions regarding the
remote Scottish islands.
We have been through very clearly the importance of local
support. Not everyone in the islands will support the
development of the wind farms, but I am told that the
majority of residents do. I understand that a poll of 1,000
Isle of Lewis adults commissioned by Lewis Wind Power found
that seven in 10 supported having wind farms on their island.
That is encouraging, but such support should not be taken for
granted. It needs to be rewarded in the way that has been
discussed—through community benefit funds and other systems.
The Scottish Government have informed my officials that all
the developers on the islands have committed to pay at least
£5,000 per megawatt of capacity per year into such funds for
the lifetime of a wind farm. That means that the Viking wind
farm on Shetland, for example, could provide up to £1.85
million every year to the community. That money could be used
for all sorts of projects: schools, local support groups,
scout groups—the list is endless. Developers are also
offering communities the opportunity to own a stake in
projects, which is something that the UK and Scottish
Governments are keen to see more of. Beyond direct income, we
should also acknowledge the other benefits that these
projects could bring. For example, jobs will be created not
just during construction but throughout the lifetime of the
projects.
Wind energy can play an important role for the country as a
whole in producing the electricity we all need to support the
running of our economy and our daily lives and in helping to
reduce the harmful emissions associated with our energy
systems. We all appreciate the commitment that island
communities will have to make to ensure that we have access
to long-term clean power. That is why it is absolutely right
that they should benefit from hosting the projects.
We recognise that there are different ways of delivering the
benefits, but of course it is important that any commitments
that developers make are real and go beyond warm words. The
Scottish Government are considering this issue closely, and I
very much welcome that work. I look forward to meeting the
right hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland and a group of
developers, which we discussed outside the Chamber. That is a
very good idea, which I am keen to progress as soon as
possible.
I hope that my response today, in the short time that I have
had, provides some reassurance to Members, as well as to the
constituents we all represent, that the Government will
support the development of onshore wind projects in the
remote islands of Scotland, where they will directly benefit
local communities.
Another very good point made by the right hon. Member for
Orkney and Shetland is that we are not starting from scratch.
We know that, and I do not mean just the manifesto
commitment, but everything that went before.
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Mr Carmichael
I understood the Minister to say earlier that the Government
would not come forward with firm proposals until after the
conclusion of the current round of contract for difference
auctions. Is that indeed the case? May I ask him to take that
away and consider whether it is really necessary? At the very
least, given the pressures of time on us here, we should have
everything ready to go once we reach that point.
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I am very prepared to consider that point as the right hon.
Gentleman has asked me to do. I hope that hon. Members will
bear with us as I and my officials tackle the issues that I
have outlined. I hope to come back very shortly with a
decision. I say “very shortly” because I want that on the
record and because of the respect in which I hold the right
hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland. In the meantime, I will
shortly be meeting the hon. Member for Na h-Eileanan an Iar
to discuss these issues further, and I would be happy to meet
any other Members of this House.
Question put and agreed to.
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