Health The Secretary of State was asked— Leaving the EU: NHS
Workforce Mr Alistair Carmichael (Orkney and Shetland) (LD)
1. What recent discussions he has had with the Home Secretary
on ensuring that the NHS has the workforce it needs after the UK
leaves the EU. [900174]...Request free trial
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The Secretary of State was asked—
Leaving the EU: NHS Workforce
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1. What recent discussions he has had with the
Home Secretary on ensuring that the NHS has the
workforce it needs after the UK leaves the
EU. [900174]
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The 150,000 EU nationals working in our health and care
services do a brilliant job and we want them to
continue doing it. I am in regular talks with Cabinet
colleagues to inform both domestic workforce plans and
the Government’s negotiations with the EU.
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The Secretary of State will be aware that that figure
represents in excess of 5% of the total workforce in
the NHS. This matter will have to be addressed,
engaging with the recruitment sector, the employment
sector and, indeed, the devolved Administrations. Is
that how he will handle it?
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We absolutely will be taking a UK-wide approach. The
numbers for England are actually slightly higher than
those the right hon. Gentleman talks about—about 9% of
doctors and about 19% of nurses are EU nationals.
However, we are still seeing doctors and nurses coming
to the UK, and we need to do everything in all parts of
this House to reassure them that we see them as having
a bright and vital future in the NHS.
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If students with four As at A-level continue to find it
very difficult to get into a medical degree in this
country, is it any wonder that we have to import them
from Europe?
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My right hon. Friend makes a very important point. That
is precisely why last year we increased the number of
medical school places with, I think, the second biggest
hike in the history of the NHS—a 25% increase. We
absolutely do believe that this country should be
training all the doctors and nurses that we need.
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The truth is that EU staff no longer want to come here.
Doctors and nurses are leaving in their droves, and
thanks to the abolition of the NHS bursary, our nurses
of tomorrow are going to have to pay to train. When
will the Secretary of State understand that this
staffing crisis has not materialised out of thin air
but is directly attributable to his actions and the
actions of his Government over the past seven years?
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The hon. Lady may have noticed a little thing called
Brexit that happened last year, which is the cause of
understandable concern. If she looks at the facts about
how many doctors came from the EU to the NHS in the
year ending this March, in other words, post-Brexit,
she will see that 2,200—[Interruption.] Someone asked
about nurses. I happen to have that information here:
4,000 nurses joined the NHS from the EU in the year
ending in March.
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One of the consequences of free movement in the
European Union is that proportionately we take in
rather fewer doctors, in particular, and fewer nurses
from the Indian subcontinent and other places. What
assessment has the Secretary of State made of the
capacity to revisit the strong relationship we had with
those workforces in the immediate post-war years?
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My hon. Friend makes an important point. We want to
attract the brightest and best into the NHS from all
over the world, wherever they come from, if there is a
need. The only caveat I would make is that we have
imported a number of doctors from very, very poor
countries that actually need those skills back home. We
have to recognise that we have international
responsibilities to make sure that we train the number
of doctors and nurses we need ourselves.
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The Secretary of State should know that staff shortages
are not just bad for patients—they are also costing a
lot more, in Nottingham and elsewhere, because of locum
and agency costs. Is it not clear that if we start
restricting access from the EU for staffing purposes,
it will cost the NHS an absolute fortune more?
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Let me reassure the hon. Gentleman that there is no
intention to restrict access to vital professions such
as the clinical professions in the NHS post-Brexit. We
have said many times that we will have a pragmatic
immigration policy. The long-term solution is not to
depend on being able to import doctors and nurses from
anywhere, because the World Health Organisation says
that there is a worldwide shortage of about 2 million
clinical professionals; we are not the only people
facing the challenge of an ageing population.
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I welcome the Secretary of State’s words and his deeds
in terms of recruiting more doctors and nurses
domestically, but as he said, hospitals such as mine in
Basingstoke rely on the best and the brightest from
around the world. What can he do to make sure that when
we need to recruit nurses, in particular, we have the
travel permits and work permits available to enable
them to move in swiftly rather than having to wait for
long periods of time?
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My right hon. Friend is absolutely right to make that
point. Nurses are, in fact, on the Home Office’s tier 2
shortage occupation list, and they will remain so for
as long as we need them to do so. The bigger issue is
that for a long time we have relied on being able to
import as many doctors and nurses from the EU as we
need to, and that has meant that we have not trained
enough people ourselves. That is bad for EU countries
and for our own young people.
Doctors and Nurses
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2. What steps are being taken to increase the
supply of doctors and nurses in the
NHS. [900175]
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12. What steps his Department is taking to
increase the number of doctors and nurses working in
the NHS. [900185]
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Last year this Government announced one of the biggest
expansions of medical training places in the history of
the NHS, involving funding 1,500 additional medical
school places every year—of which 500 start this
September—and reforms that will enable universities to
offer up to 10,000 additional nurse training places
every year.
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Swindon clinical commissioning group secured pilot
funding for its successful video campaign to recruit
additional GPs to fill vacancies in our local
community. Will the Secretary of State commit to
exploring further innovative ways to match newly
qualified staff to vacancies that they might not have
considered?
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My hon. Friend makes a really important point. In parts
of the country, GP shortages have been successfully
addressed as the CCG has done in Swindon. An important
part of this is persuading people who go into medicine
that general practice is one of the most exciting and
rapidly changing parts of medicine today. We have seen
a 9% increase in the number of medical students
choosing to go into general practice since 2015.
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Further to my hon. Friend’s question, may I ask the
Secretary of State what he is doing to ensure that
enough doctors are recruited, developed and retained at
my local hospital, Stepping Hill?
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I heard a lot about Stepping Hill when I went to visit
my hon. Friend; I think it was last year. I had the
privilege of visiting the hospital more recently after
the horrific terrorist attacks, and I commend the
hospital for the brilliant work that it did in the wake
of the bomb. The hospital has done a good job of
recruiting; I think it has recruited 93 more doctors
and nearly 300 more nurses since 2010. A national
programme to help all trusts to retain their nursing
staff has been launched by NHS Improvement in the last
week.
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In this country, we are short of approximately 40,000
nurses, and applications for nursing places have gone
down by 23%. Can the Secretary of State tell us why he
and his Government think that that is the case?
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The hon. Lady happens to work in an NHS hospital in
which there has been a big increase in the number of
nurses. Across the country, there are actually 13,000
more nurses working on our wards than there were in
2010, but she is right: we need more nurses and nursing
staff, and that is why we are expanding the number of
nurse associates. This year we are, for the first time,
opening up an apprenticeship route into nursing, which
means that people from non-traditional
backgrounds—particularly band 3 healthcare
assistants—will find it much easier to get into
nursing. That is how we will expand the workforce.
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According to the latest NHS indicators published by the
House of Commons Library last week, the number of GPs
is estimated to have fallen over the past 12 months,
and the figures for March 2017 are expected to show a
further fall. Why is that?
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We have had a big increase in the number of medical
students choosing to go into general practice, but we
have also had an increase in the number of GPs retiring
early. That is a problem that we are urgently
addressing.
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May I congratulate my right hon. Friend on serving as
Health Secretary for three Parliaments, and say to him
that besides doctors and nurses, he should look to
increase the use of properly regulated acupuncturists,
herbalists, homeopaths, chiropractors and osteopaths,
who would reduce the burden on doctors and nurses in
the health service.
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Over those three Parliaments, I have learned to expect
questions from my hon. Friend in a similar vein, and I
commend him for his persistence in championing that
cause. As he knows, I think the most important thing,
with all such issues, is to follow the scientific
advice.
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When the Government removed the nursing bursary and
introduced tuition fees, the Secretary of State said
that it was being done, as he has repeated this
morning, to fund 10,000 extra student nurse places. The
universities are saying that no extra places have been
commissioned, however, so when will we see an expansion
of student nurse training?
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I always welcome the hon. Lady’s forensic interest in
matters south of the border, but given that Scotland
has just seen its first fall in life expectancy for
over 100 years, she might want to think about her own
constituents. With respect to the number of nurses, we
now have more than 50,000 nurses in training, and we
are confident that we will deliver a big increase in
the supply of nurses to the NHS.
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We still have a nursing bursary and we have no tuition
charges, so the Secretary of State may want to explain
why universities claim there are no additional places.
In addition, we are losing almost half of junior
doctors at the end of their foundation years. What
action is the Secretary of State taking to find out
why?
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At the heart of this is the need to open up avenues for
more flexible working for both doctors and nurses. If
the hon. Lady followed what we have done in England—by
successfully pioneering such working, we have reduced
agency spend by 19% in a year, whereas it is still
going up in Scotland—she might find the NHS in Scotland
has more money to spend on her own constituents.
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Will the Secretary of State confirm what specific
actions he is taking to help trusts, such as the
Worcestershire Acute Hospitals NHS Trust that runs the
Alex hospital in my constituency of Redditch, which are
in special measures? Such trusts face special pressures
in recruiting and retaining staff.
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I welcome my hon. Friend’s first question to me. I am
very aware of the issues faced by the Worcestershire
Acute Hospitals NHS Trust, which I visited during the
difficult winter period that it has just come through.
It now has a new chief executive and leadership team,
who have made a very promising start. From the
experience of many other hospitals that have been
through difficult patches, we have found that it is
usually never about the commitment of staff, but about
getting the right leadership in place. I can assure her
that I saw outstanding commitment from the staff of the
trust.
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The number of nurses has fallen for the first time in a
decade, which is why we need fair pay now. I read in
the newspapers that the Health Secretary now supports
the Labour party policy of scrapping the cap, although
he did not vote with us last week. Given that he
supports our policy, when he soon sets the remit for
the NHS Pay Review Body, will he tell it to scrap the
cap, and will he publish his instructions before the
summer recess?
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I did not vote for the hon. Gentleman’s amendment,
because—as usual—Labour Members have told us a lot
about how they want to spend the money, without having
the faintest idea of where it will come from. He is
ignoring an elephant in the room: if we had followed
the spending plans we campaigned for in 2015, the NHS
would have £2.6 billion less this year, which is the
equivalent of 85,000 fewer nurses.
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I want to talk about the spending plans for 2017, in
which the Secretary of State can find £1 billion for
Northern Ireland, but nothing for nurses in England.
Would it not be fairer not to go ahead with further
cuts to corporation tax, and to put that money towards
giving our doctors and nurses a fair pay rise?
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Let me tell the hon. Gentleman what extra money is
going into the NHS: three years ago, £1.8 billion,
which was not asked for by Labour; two years ago, £3.8
billion, which is nearly £1 billion more than Labour
was promising; and this year, £1.3 billion. That is a
lot of extra money. Why is it going in? Because, under
this Government, we have created nearly 3 million jobs,
and that strong economy is funding an improving NHS.
Dermatologists
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3. What steps he is taking to increase the number
of dermatologists in the NHS. [900176]
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Health Education England is responsible for meeting the
workforce requirements of the NHS in England. The
number of dermatologists in the NHS continues to grow,
with 18% more consultants and 13% more doctors in
training since May 2010. HEE’s latest workforce plan
shows a 2% increase in funded training places for
dermatologists compared with the previous year.
Dermatology remains a popular choice for doctors, and
it typically enjoys 100% fill rates.
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I am pleased to say that, through a combined approach
by the clinical commissioning group and Musgrove Park
hospital in my constituency of Taunton Deane, it has
been possible to prevent the long-term closure of the
dermatology department and to put in place an interim
service, with a full service reopening in 2018. Given
the seriousness of the conditions of people coming
through this department—including an increasing number
of cases of skin cancer—will my right hon. Friend give
further assurances about how we can ensure there is a
sufficient supply of specialists in this area?
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I know that my hon. Friend has campaigned actively to
ensure that dermatology services at Musgrove Park
hospital in her constituency have been retained
following a consultant retirement, which prompted the
temporary arrangements. I am pleased that, since the
beginning of April, Somerset CCG has successfully
commissioned regular dermatology clinics at Musgrove
Park using specialists from Bristol, with a view to
restoring a full service from next April. We recognise
the important service that dermatology clinics provide
and are committed to encouraging that specialty in
Somerset and nationally.
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Dermatology is one of the specialisms that is
particularly dependent on doctors from other EU
countries. Is it not becoming clearer by the day,
whether on the staffing crisis in the NHS or the threat
to our pharmaceutical industry highlighted by the
Health Secretary in his letter today, that the extreme
hard Brexit being pursued by the Prime Minister is
disastrous for our NHS? What are the Minister and the
Secretary of State doing to pull the Prime Minister
back from that damaging course?
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Order. In relation to dermatologists is, I think, what
the right hon. Gentleman had in mind.
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I cannot tell the right hon. Gentleman precisely how
many of the excellent dermatologists come from the EU,
but I can tell him that, since the referendum, 562
non-UK EU doctors have come to work in the NHS.
St Helier Hospital
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4. When he last discussed the future of St Helier
Hospital with the Epsom and St Helier University
Hospitals NHS Trust. [900177]
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The Secretary of State recently met the chief executive
of Epsom and St Helier University Hospitals Trust and
was impressed by the fantastic work staff are doing
despite the surroundings and facilities, which are
clearly in need of improvement, for which the right
hon. Gentleman has been campaigning. Any significant
service change must be subject to consultation with
local people, be based on clinical evidence, consider
patient choice and have support from GP commissioners.
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Indeed the Secretary of State did visit the hospital on
the first day of the election campaign—nothing
suspicious about that timing. The Minister will have
heard that 43% of the estate is unsuitable for the
delivery of modern healthcare yet, thanks to the hard
work of staff, St Helier is one of the few hospitals
that manages to keep on top of A&E waiting time
targets. Would he like to be the bearer of good news
and confirm that the Government will reinstate the £219
million that the Secretary of State cancelled to enable
a new hospital to be built?
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As the right hon. Gentleman knows, the south-west
London sustainability and transformation plan area is
in the process of turning its proposals into plans,
with public consultation when appropriate. It has yet
to make any recommendations. As he knows, it set up
four local transformation boards to consider how best
to transform services, including at both Epsom and St
Helier hospitals, for the decade beyond 2020. It would
therefore be wrong for me to prejudge those conclusions
at this stage.
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Rather than having empty political campaigns, does my
hon. Friend have a sympathetic ear for an alternative,
well thought-out plan for healthcare in Sutton which
works clinically and financially and listens to all
residents in Sutton?
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My hon. Friend is right. We need to look to the
proposals coming from the clinicians on the ground who
are responsible for running acute services for the
whole of south-west London. They have made it clear
that they intend to consult the public once they have
made their recommendations transparent. They intend to
retain all five hospitals but to look at the
configuration of services among them, and that needs to
be led by clinicians.
General Practitioners
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5. What assessment he has made of the adequacy of
the number of GPs. [900178]
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In answering my first Health question, may I thank the
cardiac intensive care unit team at Barts hospital in
London, where my father-in-law, the just retired
Supreme Court Justice Lord Toulson, sadly passed away
last week? They did absolutely everything they could
and showed the very best of the NHS.
We have committed to there being an extra 5,000 doctors
in general practice by 2020 as part of a wider increase
in the total workforce in general practice. NHS England
and Health Education England are working together with
the profession to increase the GP workforce. We believe
that that is an essential part of creating a strong and
sustainable general practice, and indeed NHS, for the
future.
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In recent years, the number of family doctors in
Sunderland has plummeted. All the evidence shows that
doctors are more likely to stay in the areas where they
have trained. Does the Minister accept that new medical
school places should be created in areas such as
Sunderland, where there is the greatest need to recruit
and retain general practitioners?
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I thank the hon. Lady for her question. Since 2016,
Sunderland’s GP Career Start scheme has recruited 10
newly qualified GPs. A further five newly qualified GPs
will be recruited each year over the next three years.
I understand her point about medical school provision.
Undergraduate medical education is delivered in the
north-east in partnership between Newcastle and Durham
universities. There are currently 25 medical schools in
England offering just over 6,000 Government-funded
medical school places. We are funding 1,500 additional
places each year. Five hundred have already been
allocated, with 24 of them in Newcastle.
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Recruiting more GPs in Cheltenham is vital to share the
growing workload they face, but rising indemnity costs,
particularly for out-of-hours care, can act as a
disincentive. Does my hon. Friend agree that this must
be addressed decisively?
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Indeed we do. We recognise the role that GPs play in
the delivery of NHS care. Following the GP indemnity
review, additional money was included in the contract
last year to address indemnity inflation. We said in
our manifesto that we will ensure appropriate funding
for GPs to meet rising costs in the short term and work
with the industry to produce a longer term solution.
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17. As the number of GPs goes down, there is
increasing pressure on the time they have with their
patients. One area being missed is that of suicide and
self-harm. We now know there is an increased risk of
suicidal behaviour for those on unstable and irregular
zero-hour contracts, and that those on employment and
support allowance are more than two-thirds more likely
to take their own life. What are we doing to advise GPs
on that? [900191]
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The hon. Lady, who chairs the all-party group on
suicide and self-harm prevention, does a huge amount of
work in this area. The GP patient survey last year
showed that 85% of respondents rated their GP
experience as good. We are investing about £30 million
of taxpayers’ money in the releasing time for care
programme, which we hope will increase the time GPs can
spend with patients on issues such as those she raises,
but in my new role I am very happy to meet her.
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GPs are the first line of defence against antibiotic
resistance, which has the potential to be an
uncontrollable global new black death. Will the
Minister confirm that the UK will retain its position
as a world leader on this issue, and will he tell us
when the global antimicrobial resistance innovation
fund will open for applications and when the pilot
reimbursement model for drug development will begin
operating?
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The Government have committed £50 million of official
development assistance towards setting up the global
antimicrobial resistance innovation fund. We are one of
the world-leaders on this subject. I am meeting my hon.
Friend and my hon. Friends the Members for Stafford
(Jeremy Lefroy) and for York Outer (Julian Sturdy)
shortly, when we can take this forward.
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I spoke to one GP last week who told me that because he
has been unable to recruit help he has only been able
to take one week’s leave in three years. That is
clearly not sustainable. The morale of GPs is at an
all-time low, the number of GPs continues to fall,
surgeries are closing, and patients are finding it
harder and harder to get an appointment. The Secretary
of State promised an extra 5,000 GPs by 2020, but given
that it takes 10 years to train a GP will the Minister
tell the House how exactly he is going to deliver on
that promise?
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I thank the hon. Lady for her question and I look
forward to engaging with her on such matters. The
“General Practice Forward View” is a landmark document,
which was published in April last year. As she knows,
it sets out extra investment that GPs have been calling
for for years: £2.5 billion a year for GP services.
That means investment is rising. The good news, as the
Secretary of State said, is that more people are coming
into general practice. We want to continue to encourage
that, but we also have to take action to prevent early
retirements and to bring people back to general
practice. We are indeed doing that.
Nursing
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6. What steps are being taken to broaden routes
into nursing. [900179]
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Developing new routes into nursing is a priority for
the Government. That is why we launched, as the
Secretary of State set out, both the new nursing
associate role and the nursing degree apprenticeship
earlier this year. They will open new routes into the
registered nursing profession for thousands of people
from all backgrounds and allow employers to grow their
own workforce from their local communities.
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My constituents welcome the manifesto commitment to
expand the number of clinical staff for mental health.
What more can my hon. Friend say about plans for mental
health nurse training and how they will benefit
dementia services, in particular, in my constituency?
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Health Education England’s “Workforce Plan for England”
for 2016-17 indicated an increase of more than 3% in
the number of mental health nurse training places. It
stated:
“The current level of mental health nurse training is
the highest of any nursing branch as a percentage of
the workforce it serves”,
which should allow for an increase of some 22% to more
than 8,000 full-time equivalent staff members in the
mental health workforce by 2020.
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The fact is that when the Government chose to charge
students record levels of tuition fees and scrap their
NHS bursary, the Secretary of State and his Ministers
were warned that that would lead to a fall in the
number of applications, and what has happened since
then? The number of applications for nursing degrees
has fallen by 23%. Given that the Secretary of State
has already acknowledged that we cannot continue our
over-reliance on EU staff following Brexit, when will
Ministers understand that the biggest challenge facing
nursing recruitment is not our policy on the EU, but
the Government’s own health policies?
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The hon. Gentleman is right to draw attention to the
fact that we continue to have a surplus of applicants
for nursing degree courses in this country. The level
of that surplus has fallen somewhat as a result of the
change in funding structures. We shall have to see
where it ends up, because at present universities are
not recruiting directly outside the UCAS system, but we
are confident that there will be more applicants than
places this year by a ratio of some 2:1.
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Does the Minister agree that there are opportunities
for more mature students to gain access to courses
easily, and that more work must be done with adult
learning institutions to provide courses that allow
such direct access?
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The hon. Gentleman is right to point out that the more
mature workforce, particularly people resuming careers
later in life—perhaps, in the case of women, after they
have had children—is an important source of experienced
professionals, and we need to do more than we have been
doing to try to encourage such people to return to the
workforce.
Accident and Emergency Departments
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7. What steps he has to secure the future of
accident and emergency departments. [900180]
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Last year our A&Es saw 1,800 more people every day
within the four-hour target than they did in 2010. We
also have nearly 1,500 more emergency care doctors and
over 600 more emergency care consultants.
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A&E departments and associated acute care services
at district hospitals such as Stafford and Burton are a
critical part of the regional emergency infrastructure,
enabling the large city-based departments to deal with
major trauma specialist cases as well as day-to-day
emergencies. Will my right hon. Friend ensure that that
vital emergency infrastructure is protected, enhanced
and funded?
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I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend that an
emergency care network that works well for his
constituents is essential. As he fully understands,
that will mean relying on a network of hospitals. I
recognise the concern at his own local hospital, for
which he campaigns extremely vigorously, and I assure
him that I shall be watching very carefully what
happens there.
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Will the Secretary of State now confirm what the Prime
Minister said when she visited west Yorkshire, namely
that it was scaremongering to talk of the closure of
Huddersfield A&E? Will he also confirm that we
should have a real plan with a gold-standard university
for a new medical school in Huddersfield, so that we
can really attract talent? That would do a great deal
for morale, which would lead to the recruitment of good
doctors and nurses everywhere.
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The hon. Gentleman is right to say that it is time we
had more medical schools, given that health and social
care will be one of the fastest-expanding areas of the
economy in the coming years. I think the Prime Minister
was absolutely right to say that there should be no
scaremongering about important local plans that will
improve services for patients.
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Will the Secretary of State reassure my constituents
that the component parts of the NHS can communicate
with each other sufficiently to ensure that decisions
such as the one by a medical dean to remove
accreditation for anaesthetic training will not lead to
the closure of A&E departments in hospitals such as
Houghton general, where my father was treated so well
last Friday?
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The hon. Lady’s father is a splendid fellow, and he is
now in another place. [Laughter.] I was referring to
another House of Parliament.
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I was concerned about the general laughter following
that comment, Mr Speaker.
I am delighted that my hon. Friend’s father was treated
so well, and I very much enjoyed my visit to the
hospital recently. She is right: where there are
changes in the patterns of training, we need to be very
careful to ensure that they do not interrupt the
delivery of local services in a disadvantageous way.
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The boundaries of the sustainability and transformation
partnerships are bound to cause concern about the
future of A&E and other acute departments given the
nature of them. My area, south Cumbria—relatively
sparsely populated and rural—is lumped in with
Lancashire, which is largely urban. Will the Secretary
of State confirm that the voices of rural communities
will not be dwarfed by those of the larger urban ones,
and in this week, as we celebrate the 25th anniversary
of Westmorland general hospital, will he give
guarantees that it will not be closed and will indeed
not receive any downgrading as a result of the STP
process?
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Westmorland general hospital has a very important
future in the NHS and I am happy to give the hon.
Gentleman that assurance. I do not think he should be
concerned about STP footprints covering both rural and
urban areas. However, where there is an issue in his
constituency, and many others, it is the response times
for ambulances in the most remote areas, and we are
looking at that.
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Another threat to A&E units is the capped
expenditure process, which will mean hundreds of
millions of pounds cut from NHS budgets. That was
sneaked out during the election, but so far we have had
nothing but silence from this Government. It is time
that we had the truth: when did the Secretary of State
sign off these plans and when is he going to publish
them?
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The capped expenditure process is an NHS England
initiative to meet its statutory duty to live within
its budget, and I support the principle that in a
period where real expenditure on the NHS is going up by
£5 billion, those benefits should be spread fairly
among patients in all parts of the country.
End-of-life Care
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8. What progress is being made on improving
end-of-life care. [900181]
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In July 2016 the Government published “Our commitment
to you for end of life care”. This set out what
everyone should expect from their care at the end of
life and the actions we are taking to make high quality
and personalisation in care a reality for everyone. By
2020 we want to significantly improve patient choice,
including ensuring an increase in the number of people
able to die in the place of their choice, including at
home.
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I thank the Minister for her reply, and it is welcome
news that there is such a focus on end-of-life care.
Will she meet me to discuss the Access to Palliative
Care Bill presented in the other place, to look at how
we can improve access to palliative care across the
whole of the UK?
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I will be delighted to meet my hon. Friend, who is a
committed and passionate campaigner in this area. I am
keen to explore anything that improves care and choice
for all patients at the end of their life.
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22. Croydon’s NHS, including end-of-life care, has
been funded below the London average every year since
the Conservatives first came into government. That is
leading to the closure of services in Croydon that are
available elsewhere, and to longer waiting times for
GPs or the A&E in Croydon. When will Croydon’s
funding be brought up to the London
average? [900196]
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The amount of resource that is dedicated locally is a
matter for clinical commissioning groups, and we
continue to make sure that funding is fair. I suggest
the hon. Gentleman takes that up with his CCG.
Healthcare: CCG Guidance
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9. What guidance he provides to clinical
commissioning groups on decision-making processes to
improve healthcare provision. [900182]
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Clinical commissioning groups, as statutory
organisations, have a duty to deliver the best possible
services and outcomes for patients within their
financial allocation. NHS England supports them in this
by providing several sets of guidance, as do the
National Institute for Health and Care Excellence and
other arm’s length bodies.
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I thank the Minister for that answer. He will know that
the clinically driven Future Fit process in Shropshire
could lead to hundreds of millions of pounds of
investment in our local hospital. That is being
jeopardised by Telford CCG and Labour-controlled
Telford council. When there is this gridlock and
impasse between two local CCGs over a long period of
time, what more can the Government do to break the
deadlock?
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I am aware that my hon. Friend has been concerned about
this for a long time. An independent review of Future
Fit is taking place, and he will know that Professor
Simon Brake has been appointed as the independent chair
of the joint committee of CCGs, agreed between them
both. The review will report in July and be considered
by the local CCGs before next steps, including on
public consultation, are decided. Clear rules apply to
any significant reconfigurations and I expect these to
be followed in Shropshire as anywhere else.
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Patients at the Manchester Royal infirmary with serious
congenital heart problems found out last week that the
services will now no longer be provided in Manchester,
or in fact anywhere in the north-west, due to a
Government review of services which means that staff
cannot be retained and recruited. What has the Minister
got to say to those patients who have now got to go to
Leeds or Newcastle to get the lifesaving surgery that
they need?
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I understand that this is an independent review of
services, and it will report in due course.
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Does my hon. Friend agree that, when political
activists mislead and misinform my constituents about
the future of our Princess Royal hospital, the CCG
should communicate directly and clearly with residents
so that they can be reassured that our A&E and our
women’s and children’s services are safe?
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Yes, I do. The CCG should communicate directly with
patients, and that should be clinically led when making
the clinical case for any service reconfigurations. As
I said to my hon. Friend the Member for Shrewsbury and
Atcham (Daniel Kawczynski), there are clear guidelines
that the CCGs must follow. There are now five tests
that must be met before any reconfigurations are
brought forward, and that should be the same for my
hon. Friend’s area as for everywhere else in England.
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The Abingdon community hospital is a treasured asset in
my constituency, but in trying to find savings of £176
million, the local clinical commissioning group is
launching a consultation on its future imminently. May
I seek reassurance, on behalf of my constituents, that
the hospital will not close and that, as part of the
consultation, their voices will be not only heard but
acted upon?
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Clinical commissioning groups have a statutory
responsibility to consult the public, and Members of
Parliament have a key role in ensuring that members of
the public engage with those consultations, as I do in
my area. I will be following the hon. Lady’s case
closely, and she is welcome to come and see me about it
if she likes.
Tobacco Control Plan
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10. When the Government plan to publish a tobacco
control plan. [900183]
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The UK is a world leader in tobacco control, and we
will publish a new tobacco control plan shortly,
building on our success. That plan will set out new
national ambitions to further reduce smoking
prevalence, particularly among disadvantaged groups.
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I need to declare an interest as a Suffolk county
councillor. Given the health responsibilities of local
government, will the Minister tell the House what can
be done to deal with the situation in which the
actuarial advice from local government and other public
sector pension schemes is that they are not at liberty
to disinvest from tobacco stocks?
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I will have to look into the exact point that the hon.
Gentleman raises, but I should like to welcome him to
his place. I worked closely with his predecessor, and
the hon. Gentleman has a tough act to follow. When we
publish the tobacco control plan, there will be clear
local tobacco plans as part of it. We in the Government
can give the best evidence of what works, but we need
to recognise what is needed in each local area. I know
that he has specific needs in his local area in
relation to tackling this issue.
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I welcome the Minister to his place. Does he agree that
it is vital that anyone who approaches the national
health service with a smoking-related disease should be
pointed towards smoking cessation services? Does he
also agree that it is vital that local authorities
continue to run those services?
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Yes, absolutely. Local authorities have an obligation
to do that, but as I said to the new hon. Member for
Ipswich (Sandy Martin), it is important that local
plans come forward alongside the new national plan.
Local solutions are needed for different areas, and
that will be the case in my hon. Friend’s borough just
as it is in my area of Hampshire.
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Last week marked the 10th anniversary of the smoking
ban across the UK, but sadly the celebration was
dampened by the fact that we have yet to see the
Government’s new tobacco control plan, which was
promised in December 2015. The previous two Health
Ministers I have shadowed repeatedly said that we would
see the plan shortly, but they failed to set out an
updated strategy for working towards a smoke-free
society. I welcome the Minister to his new post—we have
worked well together in the past on the all-party
parliamentary group on breast cancer—and I am hoping
that, although he has not yet given us a date for the
plan, he will be able to give us an indication. Is it
going to be published before Christmas?
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I thank my hon. Friend for her question. I think I can
call her that; we have worked closely together in the
past. I am new to my ministerial post, but I have been
through the plan, and it is I who have to stand up and
defend it. I want to be sure that it is right and that
I am as happy with it as everyone else in the
Government is. My intention is that it will be
published before the summer recess.
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Within East Sussex, Wealden has the highest number of
smoking-related deaths. I welcome the update on the
tobacco control plan, but how will my hon. Friend raise
awareness and provide equal access for rural
communities?
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Rural communities are as important as any other. It is
up to East Sussex County Council to come forward with a
local tobacco control plan, and I know my hon. Friend
will be taking a close interest in that, as she does in
all matters when representing her constituents.
Dental Surgery: Children
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11. What steps he is taking to reduce the number
of children admitted to hospital for dental
surgery. [900184]
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Public Health England leads a wide-ranging programme to
improve children’s oral health. Its oral health
strategy, which was published last year, showed a
marked improvement across the country in the proportion
of children with no obvious tooth decay—it rose from
69% in 2008 to over 75% in 2015. NHS England is
finalising plans for the “Starting Well” programme,
which will operate in 13 high-needs areas to improve
the oral health of under-fives.
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Prevention and early intervention are crucial, but no
NHS dentists are accepting new patients in Dewsbury,
which has the second-worst provision in the country.
Children in Dewsbury have five times the national
average level of tooth decay. I have asked for help on
this for two years, but absolutely nothing has been
done. Can you tell me why the dental health of children
in Dewsbury is so unimportant to this Government?
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I cannot, but I hope that the Minister can—preferably
rather briefly.
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I will try, Mr Speaker.
NHS England recognises the significant challenges in
dentistry in Yorkshire, which was why it ran a pilot
scheme from January until the last week of June to
improve access to primary care dentistry in the
Bradford City, Bradford Districts and North Kirklees
CCG areas. The pilot will inform the wider work that
the NHS is considering across Yorkshire.
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I declare an interest which is probably fairly well
known.
The Minister will be aware that the answer is
early-years prevention. A huge campaign, which is
making progress, is being led by the chief dental
officer, for whom I have considerable admiration. Is
the Minister prepared to meet me and the chief dental
officer to discuss that progress? In advance of that
appointment, will he look at the possibility of
providing additional funding from the annual dental
clawback?
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New Members probably will not know that the hon.
Gentleman is a dentist.
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I believe that my hon. Friend is the only dentist in
the House, and he still practises occasionally. I would
be delighted to meet my hon. and experienced Friend to
discuss the issues about dentistry that he raises.
General Practitioners: Newcastle
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13. What assessment he has made of the consistency
and quality of GP services in (a) Newcastle and (b)
England. [900187]
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In 2016, 85% of patients surveyed across England
reported a good overall experience of their GP surgery.
In the Newcastle Gateshead CCG, patient satisfaction is
even higher than the national average at 88%.
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Newcastle has fantastic GPs, but many of my poorest and
most vulnerable constituents suffer from GP
unavailability and a constant change of providers due
to the requirement to re-tender every couple of years
to a market that, quite frankly, does not want them
because they are too poor or too marginalised to make
money from. Will the Minister meet me and my local CCG
to find out how we can ensure that those people get the
quality and consistency of GP services that they
deserve?
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I am very happy to do that.
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Following the closure of their GP surgery, my
constituents in Brownsover have had to make do without
one over the past few years. Approvals are in place for
a new surgery and it is due to open next summer. Will
the Minister confirm that the timeline set out by NHS
England will be met?
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I will ask NHS England, but if that is what it has told
my hon. Friend, that is what will happen.
Mental Health Services
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14. What plans he has to improve the integration
of mental health services for young people and
adults. [900188]
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We are investing a record £1.4 billion in children’s
mental health services. The transition from children’s
services to adult services can cause distress, so NHS
England has prioritised transitions when offering
financial incentives for improvements. We will consider
that in the forthcoming Green Paper.
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I thank the Minister for that answer. There is a
growing crisis in young people’s mental health in
Plymouth and the far south-west. Despite 75% of mental
health problems starting before the age of 18, only 8%
of funding is allocated to young people. Will the
Minister consider ring-fencing that young people’s
mental health spending so that the funding gets to
where it is needed?
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The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. We have to
balance the need to give CCGs the flexibility to
dedicate funding and prioritise in their own way. We
have been told by mental health professionals that the
targets for physical health are more rigorous than
those for mental health. We need to keep that under
review, but we have imposed additional targets, which
are being met.
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I commend the Government for their work on mental
health over the past few years, but when the Department
of Health publishes its Green Paper, jointly with the
Department for Education, may I urge the Minister to
focus on the evidence of what works for young people
and children, which is rigorous early intervention,
often with enduring psychotherapeutic interventions.
Can she reassure me that the Green Paper will look at
evidence on what actually works for young people?
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I can give my hon. Friend that assurance. Indeed, the
Care Quality Commission is undertaking a thematic
review to see what works. He is right to identify early
intervention as key but, as the hon. Member for
Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport (Luke Pollard)
highlighted, there is a need to consider the transition
as well.
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The right hon. Member for North Norfolk (Norman Lamb)
is not exactly standing; he is more perched like a
panther about to pounce.
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Thank you for the encouragement, Mr Speaker.
I have been alerted to an online posting yesterday on
the social network Nextdoor by the father of a teenager
who suffered awful trauma witnessing the horror at
Grenfell Tower. He was after therapy for his daughter.
Clearly there is an absolute need to ensure that
everyone who may be in need knows how to get such
therapy. What are the Government doing to ensure that
everyone does know? Also, what are they doing to ensure
that there is sufficient funding locally so that mental
health services can provide for what will clearly be
ongoing needs?
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I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his question. I
would be grateful to receive more details so that we
can make sure that such support is going where it is
needed. I advise him that, certainly in the case of the
too-frequent disasters that we have had recently, we
have been relying on more intervention on the ground.
In our work on mental health first aid we are
prioritising exactly those areas.
NHS Improvement
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15. What steps are being taken to ensure that NHS
Improvement provides timely and effective support to
health communities to deliver consistently high-quality
care. [900189]
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NHS Improvement offers tailored support to the
organisations it oversees, particularly those that have
gone into special measures as a result of a Care
Quality Commission review. The Department, of course,
has responsibility for holding NHS Improvement to
account, and it does that through me.
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Northern Lincolnshire and Goole NHS Foundation Trust is
in special measures for both financial and quality
reasons, but the support given to date by NHSI has been
neither timely nor effective. What are the Government
going to do about that?
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We are clearly disappointed that Northern Lincolnshire
and Goole NHS Foundation Trust has gone back into
special measures. It is one of a very small number of
trusts that have emerged from special measures and then
reverted, so this is something in which we are taking a
lot of interest. NHS Improvement has appointed an
improvement director and is in the process of arranging
for a nearby buddy trust to provide some support. I
assure the hon. Gentleman that the Department is
receiving weekly updates.
Topical Questions
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T1. If he will make a statement on his departmental
responsibilities. [900199]
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Yesterday I updated the House on the action that we are
taking to address delayed discharges from hospitals in
advance of the winter. Since February, there has been a
record decrease in delayed discharges, but faster
progress is still needed to free up beds for the sickest
patients and to reduce pressure on A&Es. Yesterday we
therefore set out further measures to support the NHS and
local government to reduce delays, including specific
reductions required in all local areas, a prospective
review of next year’s social care funding for poorly
performing local authorities, and immediate CQC reviews
in the worst-performing areas.
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The latest figures from the British Medical Association
show a huge rise in the number of patients with mental
health conditions who are being sent hundreds of miles
away from home for treatment. Is not any talk of parity
of esteem meaningless unless and until patients can
access the support they need close to home?
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I completely agree with the hon. Lady that that is a very
important issue. It is particularly important because
people with mental health conditions need regular visits
from their friends and family to help them to get over a
crisis. Indeed, their chances of getting discharged and
being able to go home are much higher when they are
nearer home. She will be aware that we have a commitment
to eliminate all out-of-area placements for children by
2020, and we are making big efforts with adults as well.
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T4. Leicester and Leicestershire MPs, irrespective
of party and led by the hon. Member for Leicester West
(Liz Kendall), are united with local people, patients and
medical professionals in opposition to NHS England’s
badly thought out and, frankly, wrong proposals to close
Glenfield hospital’s children’s heart unit. Can my right
hon. Friend reassure me that he continues to appreciate
the strength of feeling on this issue and that he will
ensure that the eventual decision reflects the responses
received to the consultation? [900202]
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My hon. Friend and other Leicestershire MPs have made
their views very clear to me. I hosted a number of them,
from both sides of the House, to discuss this issue. He
is aware that the public consultation on congenital heart
disease services continues until 17 July. Obviously, we
will take all the comments made into account when we come
to the conclusions from that report.
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Today is the sixth anniversary of the publication of the
Dilnot commission’s report on the funding of social care.
In those six years, Ministers have legislated for a cap
and a floor on care costs, and then abandoned those
measures. They brought forward disastrous proposals in
their manifesto for what became known as the “dementia
tax”, and they appear to have abandoned those measures,
too. Will the Secretary of State confirm that those
policies have indeed been abandoned? Will he tell me, and
more than 1 million people with unmet care needs, when he
expects to have some new proposals for reform?
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I have great respect for the hon. Lady, because she
campaigns consistently on this issue, but I do not think
that what she says is a fair reflection of what has
happened. In the last year of the previous Labour
Government, 45,000 people had to sell their home to pay
for their care costs, whereas this Government have made
it the law that no one has to sell their home. There is
more work to do, but we have made important progress and
will continue to do so.
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T5. Nothing is more important than that people can
access a GP when they need one. With that in mind, will
the Minister join me in welcoming the move made by South
Tees clinical commissioning group to enable 90,000 more
appointments a year to be generated for people in
Middlesbrough, Redcar and Cleveland by ensuring that
appointments are available on evenings, weekends and bank
holidays? [900203]
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I do indeed welcome that. Improvements to GP access in
the NHS in South Tees have been put in place. Patients in
Middlesbrough, Redcar and Cleveland can now benefit from
accessing GP appointments at a time that is convenient
for them, seven days a week—that is exactly as it should
be.
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T2. With the Scottish Government now committed to a
soft opt-out system for organ donation similar to that
implemented in Wales in 2015, is it not time that the UK
Government followed the lead of the Welsh and Scottish
Governments by introducing a similar system south of the
border? [900200]
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There is a lot of merit in the opt-out system that has
been developed in Wales for some time and is now
happening in Scotland. We are looking closely at the
evidence, but we have a lot of sympathy with this. If the
system does lead to an increase in organ donations, it is
certainly something we would want to pursue here.
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T6. One-year cancer survival rates are now at a
record high of 70%, but does the Minister agree that we
should and can go further by improving early diagnosis
and screening? [900204]
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Yes. Progress is really encouraging, and I am sure that
Members on both sides of the House will have been
encouraged to see today’s press coverage about the chief
medical officer’s independent report on genomics—the age
of precision medicine is truly here. The NHS has always
been at the forefront of new technologies, and so it must
be with this; we are determined that it will be.
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T3. Would a Minister be willing to meet the
all-party group on blood donation after it has been
reconvened next week and would they be able to provide an
update on the work of the Advisory Committee on the
Safety of Blood, Tissues and Organs in respect of lifting
or easing the deferral period for gay men who want to
donate blood? [900201]
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I would be happy to agree to such a meeting, and I know
this issue has support on both sides of the House.
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T8. Last week I met doctors and nurses at the
Friarage, an excellent small hospital serving a rural
population spread over 1,000 square miles. Will my right
hon. Friend urge South Tees Hospitals NHS Foundation
Trust to do everything it can to ensure the continued
provision of emergency care clinicians and anaesthetists
at this vital local hospital? [900206]
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I am aware that my hon. Friend has taken a strong
interest in the number of consultants and anaesthetists
available at the Friarage hospital. I will be happy to
meet him to discuss his concerns in person.
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T7. At the height of the recent election campaign,
NHS England took forward plans to merge, in effect, six
south London CCGs, including Greenwich CCG, under one
single chief officer. Does the Minister agree that that
would be a retrograde step, not only in terms of local
accountability, but at a time when primary care has been
devolved downwards and all the emphasis is on
collaboration and integration at a local borough
level? [900205]
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I think the answer is that this varies from area to area.
The CCGs grew up organically following the Health and
Social Care Act 2012. Some parts of the country are
discovering that the groups can be more effective if they
combine forces, but these things have to be decided
locally.
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In addition to the Government’s welcome focus on mental
health first aid, may we have equal focus on mental
health keep fit, looking particularly at the Mental
Health Foundation’s 10 pointers, so that we can all keep
our mental health in good condition?
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As ever, my hon. Friend makes an important point. I think
that every child should leave school as knowledgeable
about how to remain mentally resilient as about how to be
physically healthy.
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T9. What recent assessment has the Secretary of
State made of the financial sustainability of Coventry
and Rugby clinical commissioning group? [900207]
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Like all clinical commissioning groups, Coventry and
Rugby CCG is under a great deal of pressure, but our view
is that, given the recent funding increases, it should be
entirely possible for it to be sustainable.
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May I return the Minister’s attention to the issues
facing Northern Lincolnshire and Goole NHS Foundation
Trust? My constituents are worried that both Grimsby and
Scunthorpe hospitals are in special measures for the
second time in as many years. Will he meet me and
neighbouring MPs to discuss the situation?
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I am more than happy to meet my hon. Friend, but he
should be confident that we have put in place a
substantial support package, including a buddy
relationship with another trust and special teams from
NHS Improvement, to turn the situation around.
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T10. What action does the Secretary of State intend
to take to address the link between suicide and
socioeconomic deprivation highlighted in the Samaritans’
“Dying from inequality” report as he seeks to reduce the
suicide rate by 10% by 2020? [900208]
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We will look carefully at the Samaritans’ report, as we
always do with what the Samaritans say. I think the signs
are that our policies are having an impact and reducing
suicide rates significantly, but suicide remains the
biggest cause of death among men under 50.
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Funding our national health service to meet the needs of
UK residents is one proposition; funding an international
health service open to the world is another proposition
entirely. Are there any indications that advance charging
for non-emergency treatment for overseas patients is
putting more money into our NHS?
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My hon. Friend is a doughty campaigner for ensuring that
non-resident visitors to this country contribute for
healthcare received here. We put in place a number of
measures to enhance the appropriate charging structures
and increased the funding received by the NHS from £89
million to £289 million in 2015-16. We expect similar
action to result in a further increase.
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NHS Property Services has just signed a £1 million lease
on a central London location. May I suggest that other
properties were available? Would the Secretary of State
like me to inquire in my constituency, where NHS Property
Services increased Knowle West Health Park’s rent
threefold? Better value for the taxpayer is available.
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I will be happy to look into the matter if the hon. Lady
sends me the details.
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I know that Ministers share my passion for ensuring that
a bereavement suite is attached to every maternity unit
in the country. What steps can the Government take to
make that a reality?
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I congratulate my hon. Friend on his dedicated work. The
Government understand the importance of bereaved parents
having a dedicated place where they can be cared for and
not hear other babies crying. We have funded better
bereavement spaces in nearly 40 hospitals and continue to
work with Sands—the stillbirth and neonatal death
charity—to see what more we can do to improve provision.
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It is always quite interesting to study the habits of
colleagues. The hon. Member for Feltham and Heston (Seema
Malhotra) has perambulated from one side of the Chamber
to the other; nevertheless, she is here and I suppose we
should hear her. No? The hon. Lady had a question on the
Order Paper. Your opportunity is now—get in there!
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During the election campaign, a lady in my constituency
told me that she had had to wait nearly four hours for an
ambulance to arrive at her home to help her off the
floor. Does the Secretary of State have confidence in the
ambulance service in London and other regions where
targets have been consistently missed? Will he now look
at extra resources for the ambulance service across the
country, which is so urgently needed by all of our
constituents?
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If I may say so, that was a brilliant recovery. The hon.
Lady is absolutely right to focus her attention on the
performance of ambulance services. They are under
pressure. They are hitting around 71% for their category
A calls, and the target is to hit 75%. However, there are
some bigger issues with the way those targets work, which
we are looking at. Her ambulance service has just had a
Care Quality Commission inspection.
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As a result of the capped expenditure process, the wider
Devon sustainability and transformation plan is being
asked to make £78 million of savings at short
notice—within the next nine months. Does the Secretary of
State share my concern about the impact on patients, the
short timeframe and the undermining of savings already
agreed by the STP? Will he meet me to discuss this matter
and the wider CEP?
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I am more than happy to meet my hon. Friend. The
principle behind the capped expenditure process is that
we should have fairness between patients in different
parts of the country. We should not see patients in one
part of the country disadvantaged because the NHS has
overspent in their neighbouring area, but the way in
which we implement the process must be sensitive and
fair. We must ensure that we get it right.
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What advice would the Secretary of State give to my
constituents who receive their urgent care from Virgin
Care, and are told that wounds should be dressed only
once and that, in the event that they need to re-attend,
they should purchase further dressings from the local
chemist? Free at the point of delivery?
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I suggest that the hon. Lady gets in touch with the
details. What I would say is that when care is not
satisfactory—whether it is delivered by the public sector
or the independent sector—we have an independent
inspection regime to root out the problems.
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I was delighted to hear that, in answer to my hon. Friend
the Member for Boston and Skegness (Matt Warman), the
Minister was positive about the progress of genome
screening. On a recent visit to Nottingham University, I
saw similar techniques applied to Alzheimer’s research.
Will he back using the process for that, as well as for
cancer diagnosis and treatment?
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The chief medical officer’s report—I am sure that my hon.
Friend will read it in due course—is clear that this is
an exciting new innovation in medicine. We will tackle
cancer first, but there is real potential for applying it
to rare diseases and the other disease that she
mentioned.
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