Energy Price Cap 3.36 pm Dr Alan Whitehead
(Southampton, Test) (Lab) (Urgent Question): To ask the
Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy if
he will make a statement on the Government’s intention for an
energy price cap. The Secretary of State for Business, Energy and
Industrial Strategy (Greg Clark) ...Request free trial
Energy Price Cap
3.36 pm
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(Southampton, Test)
(Lab)
(Urgent Question): To ask the Secretary of State for
Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy if he will make a
statement on the Government’s intention for an energy price
cap.
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The Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy (Greg Clark)
Following a two-year inquiry, the Competition and Markets
Authority found that energy customers on standard variable
tariffs were paying on average £1.4 billion a year more
than would be the case in a competitive market. That is
completely unacceptable, so my party’s manifesto committed
to introduce a safeguard tariff to extend the price
protection currently in place for some vulnerable
customers—those on pre-payment meters—to more customers on
the poorest-value tariffs. The energy regulator, Ofgem, has
the powers necessary to impose such a price cap without
delay, and I wrote to its chief executive on 21 June to ask
it to use its powers to do so. Today, the regulator has
replied and announced that it will work with consumer
groups to take measures, including extending the current
safeguard tariff for those on pre-payment meters to a wider
group of consumers, and move urgently to implement these
changes.
I welcome this initial proposal—it is a step in the right
direction—but I will wait to see the actual proposals
turned into action to cut bills, as the test of whether the
regulator’s changes go far enough is whether they move
sufficiently to eradicate the detriment to consumers that
the CMA identified. I remain prepared to legislate if they
do not, and I hope that such legislation would command wide
support across the House.
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Dr Whitehead
I thank the Minister for his response. Does he recall that
during the election his party placed the promise of an
overall cap on energy prices at the centre of its
manifesto? Indeed, does he recall the Prime Minister
stating:
“I am making this promise: if I am re-elected on 8 June, I
will take action to end this injustice by introducing a cap
on unfair energy price rises. It will protect around 17
million families on standard variable tariffs from being
exploited with sudden and unjustified increases in bills”?
Does the Secretary of State accept that Ofgem’s response to
his letter of 21 June on energy prices falls far short of
implementing that promise and that, although there are
welcome suggestions on safeguarding tariffs and capping
warrant charges for the installation of pre-pay meters,
those measures would affect only 2.5 million customers,
leaving more than 14 million SVT customers completely
unprotected from price rises over the next period? Will he
confirm that his letter did not ask Ofgem to consider
introducing a general price cap? Will he tell the House why
it did not, even though the chief executive officer of
Ofgem confirmed earlier this year that it would have the
discretionary power to implement an energy price cap?
Does the Secretary of State intend to pass legislation to
require Ofgem to introduce a price cap, or is he now
content to let his firm election promise of a cap fall by
the wayside? If so, what does he have to say to the 17
million people on standard variable tariffs who thought
that relief from rip-off price rises was on its way but
will now feel completely betrayed by this policy U-turn?
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I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his questions. I
hope he will see that I answered many of his points in my
initial response to the urgent question. He will share my
view—indeed, I think it is his view, too—that we should act
as soon as possible to provide relief to consumers. That
will require Ofgem to use its powers. It has powers that it
can use immediately, and I have encouraged it to do so.
The hon. Gentleman mentioned my letter. I am sure that, as
he was hoping to come into government, he studied the
prospective use of the powers, so he will know that
legislation requires me to ask Ofgem for advice. I did so
under exactly those terms and Ofgem has responded by saying
that it will work with consumer groups to identify how far
the protection should go. I have been clear that I want the
detriment of £1.4 billion a year to be eradicated. It is a
test of Ofgem’s responsiveness that it should use its
powers to that end. The constituents of Government and
Opposition Members will look to the regulator to make use
of its powers to prevent the continuation of such an
unacceptable situation, which involves more than £1 billion
a year.
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(Weston-super-Mare)
(Con)
To build on my right hon. Friend’s most recent answer, some
17 million families are being ripped off by expensive
standard variable tariff deals. Ofgem’s proposals will deal
with at most 3 million of them, leaving 14 million still
being preyed on by the big six energy firms. Does my right
hon. Friend agree that Ofgem’s proposals will be viewed as
a great betrayal of those 14 million households? If we are
going to create an economy that works for everyone, will he
distance himself from this big six stitch-up and pledge to
help the millions of households that Ofgem seems set to
ignore?
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My hon. Friend has done great work with many Members from
various parties to establish that there is an appetite and
need to tackle the problem exposed by the CMA, which has
been going on for too long. In response to my letter, Ofgem
has said today that it will work with consumer groups and
come forward with a range of responses. I will look at them
closely, as I know my hon. Friend will, and I am sure that
the Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Committee
will, too. I have said clearly that the test of the
adequacy of the responses is that they address the clear
detriment that the authorities have identified.
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(Kilmarnock and Loudoun)
(SNP)
The UK Government really lack strategy right across the
energy sector. The £20 billion Hinkley Point C project will
add to future household bills, mention of energy was sadly
lacking in the Green Paper that was published before the
election, and now there is this lack of a joined-up
approach to an energy cap. Will the Secretary of State
confirm the Government’s plans to protect the 14 million
people who will not be covered by the current proposals? Of
the £1.4 billion that the CMA has said is going to the big
companies instead of staying in consumers’ pockets, how
much will be returned to consumers under the measures that
are being introduced? He said that he might consider
legislation, but what is his timescale for reviewing what
is happening and deciding whether there is a need to act?
Will he ask Ofgem to determine what the true level of a cap
should be?
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The hon. Gentleman talks about energy strategy, and it is
right that the Government have taken a decision—this was
ducked by previous Governments for decades—to renew our
nuclear power stations that are coming to the end of their
lives. He will know that the SNP Government in Scotland
agreed to extend the lives of nuclear power stations there,
and he will also know about the impact of our success on
renewable energy, specifically offshore wind, in Scotland.
I have had fruitful discussions with colleagues throughout
Scotland, especially in the remote islands, about the
future possibilities for that.
On Ofgem’s response to my letter, I have set out clearly
that it has said it will work with and consult consumer
groups, and come up with a range of options. The £1.4
billion detriment has to be eradicated, and that is the
test of whether the proposals are acceptable. I am sure
that the House wants to scrutinise them as much as I do.
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(Wokingham) (Con)
My right hon. Friend inherited a system that relies
increasingly on dear energy, which drives up household
bills. Is there anything that he can do to bring a greater
amount of cheaper energy into the mix so that bills reduce
in five or 10 years’ time?
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My right hon. Friend makes an excellent point. We need to
ensure that we meet our important climate change
commitments at a competitive cost—for consumers and for
businesses—and that we obtain the industrial benefits from
having a supply chain in this country. That is exactly why
we devote a chapter of the industrial strategy Green Paper
to future plans to make the most of the clean energy
transition in all respects.
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Mr (Huddersfield)
(Lab/Co-op)
Having seen the recent report, surely it is safe to say
that wind and solar will be the future for low-cost energy,
but there was a Duke Ellington song called “How long has
this been going on?” The fact is that this has been going
on too long—this exploitation of people who cannot avoid
paying above the price. Is it not about time that we moved
away from botched privatisation and inadequate regulation
to an answer that puts money back in people’s pockets,
rather than taking it out?
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In response to the first part of the hon. Gentleman’s
question, I welcome, as he does, the huge progress that has
been made not just in the deployment of renewables, but in
the cost reductions that we have seen. That process has
created jobs across the UK, especially in coastal towns. I
had the pleasure of opening the Siemens wind blade factory
in Hull, which created 1,000 good jobs. However, he is
right that the detriment has been going on too long, which
was why the Government asked the CMA to investigate the
industry root and branch. It has identified £1.4 billion of
detriment, and I have made it absolutely clear that that
detriment needs to be returned to the pockets of consumers.
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Mrs (St Albans)
(Con)
May I tell the Secretary of State that the latest data show
that 2,687 households in my constituency are estimated to
be in fuel poverty? That is 6.6% of all households. What
more can be done to identify these vulnerable groups and
ensure that they have the best advice and information about
switching tariffs? The suggestion that people search online
is not the way forwards. Perhaps it would be more helpful
to have a better dialogue between the consumer and the
energy provider.
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I agree with my hon. Friend. One feature of the energy
market is that the poorer someone is, the larger the
proportion of their income that they spend on energy. That
is why it is imperative that vulnerable consumers should
not be required go on the internet every few months to
check that their tariff has not defaulted to a much higher
one. That was the reason for my letter to Ofgem, and it is
why I want its response to be vigorous. My hon. Friend is
absolutely right that an aspect of the wider set of
policies is to make it easier for consumers to know the
price of energy and how much they consume, and smart meters
are being introduced to help more people to do that.
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Sir (Kingston and Surbiton)
(LD)
Has the Secretary of State seen the analysis and evidence
of former independent energy regulators who say that the
consumer detriment pointed to by the CMA in this market was
based on seriously flawed methodology? If he has not, will
he look at that and report back to the House?
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I have seen that. This two-year inquiry conducted by the
CMA identified £1.4 billion of detriment, which is a huge
amount of money. When our constituents see the
difference—it can be up to £100 a year—that they pay for a
dual fuel bill by being on a dual fuel tariff, they know
that that is significant amount.
The CMA said that suppliers have “unilateral market power”
over their inactive customer base and could exploit their
position by pricing their SVTs above a level that could be
justified. That cannot go on.
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(Stirling) (Con)
Does my right hon. Friend agree that it will take more than
easier switching to encourage a fairer energy market in
this country?
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A response is required from the regulator; this is a
regulated industry. The development of modern markets means
that it is possible for suppliers, especially dominant
ones, to identify the customers who are the least likely to
switch. As my hon. Friend the Member for St Albans (Mrs
Main) said, they are often among the most vulnerable. It is
unacceptable to use that information to sting them, and
regulation has to catch up with that.
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Mr Speaker
I think it is time that we heard again from the good
doctor—Dr .
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Dr (Stroud) (Lab/Co-op)
It is my lucky day today, but I am sure it will not
continue. I refer the House to my entry in the Register of
Members’ Financial Interests.
As much as we welcome the attempt to deal with fuel
poverty, the Secretary of State must realise that there is
an adverse effect on renewables at the margins, which will
now not come forward because of this fairly blunt pricing
structure. Will he look into that and ensure that there is
still a drive forward for renewables?
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We are seeing a big increase in the deployment of
renewables as the price comes down, as the hon. Member for
Huddersfield (Mr Sheerman) said. The effect of the
overcharging—the abuse—is not a return to consumers, and
this is not about the increased deployment of renewables.
In the analysis of the CMA, the practice results in profits
that are higher than they would be in a competitive market
and relative inefficiency on the part of the suppliers.
Consumers should not be paying for either of those.
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(Harlow) (Con)
Many energy consumers, particularly those on low incomes,
do not pay their energy bills by direct debit, but they get
huge increased charges from many of the energy companies
when they do pay, even when they do so on time. Will my
right hon. Friend look into this and make sure that people
who do not pay their energy bills by direct debit get a
fair energy bill?
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My right hon. Friend makes an excellent point. As I said,
the poorest 10% of households spend 10% of their household
expenditure on energy, whereas the richest 10% spend 3% of
theirs on it. We need to look particularly at the
conditions of more vulnerable consumers to ensure that they
are not disadvantaged. My right hon. Friend mentioned one
of the ways in which they are.
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(Warwick and
Leamington) (Lab)
Are we not tinkering at the edges and doing a little bit of
window dressing? I think that we all agree that the energy
market appears to be dysfunctional. We saw that best at the
beginning of this year when there was an increase in
tariffs across the board that bore no relation to wholesale
prices, but had everything to do with the exchange rate,
particularly that with the euro, as most of our domestic
companies are actually based in France or Germany. The big
six are essentially operating as a cartel, not in the
interests of the consumer.
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I am not sure that I would give them the excuse of exchange
rate movements. The Competition and Markets Authority has
said that suppliers have unilateral market power over this
part of their customer base. This is a regulated market.
Ofgem has the powers to introduce and extend the price gap,
and my view is that it should use those powers now.
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(Aldridge-Brownhills)
(Con)
Going back to switching, does the Secretary of State think
that more needs to be done to make it much easier to
switch, particularly for our more vulnerable constituents?
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I agree with my hon. Friend. While there should certainly
not be barriers in the way, it also should not be necessary
for people to spend every evening on the internet checking
whether their bill has gone up by an outrageous margin. If
people are loyal to a brand, it is not unreasonable for
them to expect to be treated reasonably, especially as that
brand may be a trusted brand. The regulator should enforce
that.
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(Carmarthen East and
Dinefwr) (PC)
We produce far more electricity in Wales than we use, yet
we pay the highest electricity prices in the British state.
More than a third of our households are in fuel poverty.
Does that not suggest that Westminster control over Welsh
energy policy is not working?
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No, it is one of the reasons why this investigation was
commissioned and why what I have asked Ofgem to consider
and enact will be particularly important to the hon.
Gentleman’s constituents in Wales.
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(Redditch) (Con)
Will my right hon. Friend join me in welcoming Ofgem’s
proposal to consult on more measures to help
microbusinesses?
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I do welcome that. We have talked about household
consumers, and for many very small businesses, their energy
bill is also an important component of their costs. In my
request for advice, which it was technically necessary to
make to Ofgem, I asked for that advice to apply to
microbusinesses as well.
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(Kingston upon Hull
North) (Lab)
The usual vested interests—the big six—were on the airwaves
this morning advising consumers to switch their energy
supplier, but if consumers really want to see a change to
this rip-off of energy prices, do they not have to switch
Governments?
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No, it was this Government who referred the whole industry
to the Competition and Markets Authority. When the right
hon. Member for Doncaster North (Edward Miliband) was
Energy Secretary, I urged this measure on him, and he
rejected it flat, so it is this Government who have exposed
the level of the detriment, and it is this Government who
are acting to put a cap in place to prevent this abuse—that
did not happen under Labour.
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(Wells) (Con)
As welcome as a price cap will undoubtedly be, does the
Secretary of State agree that the real key to bringing down
prices for consumers is the liberalisation of the energy
market through the digitisation of the energy system,
storage in front of and behind the meter, and a demand-side
response?
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My hon. Friend, who is well informed about such issues, is
absolutely right. The opportunity that smart meters bring
is that people can have much more knowledge and control of
their energy use, and use that to get the best deals
available. That is why the roll-out of smart meters is such
an important part of our reforms to the energy market.
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Ian C. Lucas (Wrexham) (Lab)
But does the outcome of the CMA inquiry not tell the
Secretary of State, as a reasonable man, that this is the
end of the road for the system? Privatisation did not work,
the regulatory system has not worked, and we have had to
have a CMA inquiry. What is needed is a fundamental
reappraisal and change of this whole energy edifice?
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I am surprised to hear implicit support from the hon.
Gentleman for the programme of nationalisation of this
sector that the Labour party stood on. The billions of
pounds that that would cost would not be the most important
use of funds. This has been a regulated industry since
privatisation many years ago, and the regulation needs to
function better than it has.
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Sir (West Dorset) (Con)
I have been listening carefully to my right hon. Friend’s
answers. Am I right to understand that he would not be
satisfied with a final solution from Ofgem that continued to
cross-subsidise some customers out of a kind of loyalty
premium paid by those who, even if not vulnerable, did not
switch?
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This is a wake-up call for the industry. A model in which
consumers who are known not to switch can be milked to pay a
subsidy for other consumers in an unfair way—the CMA
identified “unilateral market power”, which enables firms to
exploit their position—has to come to an end.
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(Dudley South) (Con)
While I welcome proposals to make it easier to switch away
from poor deals, does my right hon. Friend agree that Ofgem
needs to go much further than it suggested in its letter to
him this morning to protect consumers from exploitation?
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There is a clear expectation that I want the detriment that
the CMA has identified to be tackled once and for all. Ofgem
has said that it will consult consumer groups, and I hope and
expect that those consumer groups will share my hon. Friend’s
analysis.
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(Clacton) (Con)
Will my right hon. Friend join me in welcoming Ofgem’s
acknowledgment regarding the ability to put a cap in place?
Should we not urge it to use the power fully?
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My hon. Friend is right, and the proposal to consult consumer
groups and to go beyond the CMA’s remedies—at least what the
majority report of the CMA recommended—is welcome. As I said,
that is a step in the right direction, but I would want to
see this put out in detail and implemented before I would be
satisfied with it.
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(Corby) (Con)
Speaking as someone who represents an industrial town, has my
right hon. Friend, as part of the wider debate on these
issues, had the opportunity to assess what impact
nationalising the energy companies would have on household
and commercial energy bills?
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I have indeed. The impact of finding the billions of pounds
necessary to take these industries into public ownership
would not only be a disaster for our public finances, but the
destruction of investor confidence in a whole range of
industries that we need investment in.
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Mr Speaker
I call . I mean .
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(Solihull) (Con)
I did not think that I could have been behind someone else,
Mr Speaker.
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Mr Speaker
You are not a senior Government Whip, Sir, but at least you
are a Knight.
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I was a BBC News consumer affairs reporter for five years,
and during that time I saw the havoc that can be wrought by
pre-payment metering. Does my right hon. Friend agree that
practices such as rip-off emergency credit, which makes a
payday loan look reasonable, need to be brought to heel, and
that we should welcome Ofgem’s proposal to extend the current
safeguard tariff for consumers on pre-payment meters?
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It can only be a matter of time before my hon. Friend enjoys
the position to which you referred, Mr Speaker.
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. It has been the practice
of this Government to intervene when there are abuses,
especially of vulnerable people in the way in which he
describes. That has happened with pre-payment meters, but the
approach needs to go much further.
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department
for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (Lord
Prior of Brampton) (Con)
My Lords, I beg leave to repeat, in the form of a
Statement, the Answer given to an Urgent Question by my
right honourable friend the Secretary of State for
Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy in the other
place.
“Mr Speaker, the Competition and Markets Authority,
following a two-year inquiry, found that energy
customers on standard variable tariffs were paying on
average £1.4 billion a year more than would be the case
in a competitive market. That is completely
unacceptable, so my party’s manifesto committed to
introduce a safeguard tariff to extend the price
protection currently in place for some vulnerable
customers—those on pre-payment meters—to more customers
on the poorest-value tariffs.
The energy regulator, Ofgem, has the powers necessary
to act to impose such a price cap without delay. I
wrote on 21 June to the chief executive of Ofgem asking
it to use the regulator’s powers to do that. Today, the
regulator has replied and has announced that it will
work with consumer groups to take measures, including
extending the current safeguard tariff for those on
pre-payment meters to a wider groups of consumers, and
to move urgently to implement these changes. I welcome
this initial proposal—it is a step in the right
direction—but I will wait to see the actual proposals
and to see them turned into action to cut bills.
The test of whether the regulator’s changes go far
enough is whether it moves sufficiently to eradicate
the detriment to consumers that the CMA has identified.
I remain prepared to legislate if it does not, and I
hope that such legislation will command wide support
across the House”.
7.17 pm
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(Lab)
I thank the Minister for that Statement. Does he accept
that, during the election, his party placed the promise
of a cap on energy prices at the centre of its
manifesto? Does he recall that the Prime Minister
stated:
“So I am making this promise: if I am re-elected on
June 8, I will take action to end this injustice by
introducing a cap on unfair energy price rises. It will
protect around 17 million families on standard variable
tariffs from being exploited with sudden and
unjustified increases in bills”?
Although these are welcome suggestions on safeguarding
tariffs and on capping warrant charges for the
installation of pre-pay meters, these measures would
affect only 2.5 million customers, leaving more than 14
million standard variable tariff customers completely
unprotected from price rises over the next period. Does
he accept that the response to the letter to Ofgem of
21 June on energy prices falls far short of
implementing that promise? Although welcome, extending
the safeguard tariff to more customers will not end the
injustice of an excess £1.4 billion a year being paid
on standard variable tariffs or bring about a
competitive market.
Can the Minister confirm that the letter of 21 June
does not ask Ofgem to consider introducing a general
price cap? Can he explain why not, even though the CEO
of Ofgem confirmed earlier this year that Ofgem would
have the discretionary power to implement an energy
price cap? Will the Government now be asking Ofgem to
consider introducing a price cap? Is legislation coming
or is the Minister content to ignore his party’s
election promise of an energy price cap? What does the
Minister have to say to the millions more people on
standard variable tariffs who heard the Prime
Minister’s remarks and may now be feeling misled and
betrayed by the Conservative Government?
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My Lords, in my right honourable friend the Secretary
of State for BEIS’s letter to Dermot Nolan, the chief
executive of Ofgem, he says:
“You will have seen that the Conservative manifesto
proposed to ‘extend the price protection currently in
place for some vulnerable customers to more customers
on the poorest value tariffs’”.
That is what my right honourable friend has asked Ofgem
to do. It will now go through a period of consultation
and decide how best to do that.
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(LD)
My Lords, on this side of the House we appreciate and
welcome the measures that are obviously designed to
help poorer customers. I will ask the Minister two
questions. How much of this £1.4 billion does he assume
is going to be redistributed back to customers as a
result of these measures, and what is the shortfall on
that? Secondly, his party, despite its election
manifesto, has never seen a way of resolving these
problems by price cuts. What is he going to do to
improve competition? That is the way to control prices
in this sector, and clearly they are not going to be
controlled when you have a six-body cartel that is
operating against customers’ interests.
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My Lords, the Secretary of State has made it clear
that, in judging whether Ofgem’s proposals go far
enough, he will be looking at that figure of £1.4
billion—which, as the noble Lord knows, was identified
in the CMA report of 2014. Clearly that is the figure
that the Secretary of State has in mind. The noble Lord
is absolutely right, though, that for the long term
getting real competition into the market will drive
prices down. Some 20% of the market is now supplied by
companies other than the big six. I think that they now
number 50, so there are signs of growing competition.
The CMA is quite categoric in its diagnosis that
customers are not yet feeling sufficiently well
informed or enabled to make the switch. I went on to
uSwitch today to have a look and I can understand
that—one’s brain sort of hazes over a bit when you go
into this sort of field. So I think it will take some
time before competition really works in this
market—which is why the Secretary of State decided to
ask Ofgem to review the situation today.
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(Lab)
My Lords, perhaps I could pursue the point raised by the
noble Lord, Lord Stoneham. The reality is that the CMA
inquiry found that the standard variable tariff, which is
the bulk of the market, was being exploited by the
oligopoly that runs most of our energy supply. It was an
absolutely condemnatory finding. Unfortunately, the
remedies proposed by the CMA did not add up to very much,
which is presumably why the Prime Minister thought she
had to make clear that heavier government action was
necessary.
If my noble friend is right
that the remedy proposed in the letter to Ofgem affects
only a minority of those consumers, and that in any case
it depends on Ofgem finding a way within in its existing
rules to implement it, that total market distortion is
not going to be resolved by the relatively slow creep of
greater competition; it is going to require some clear
and probably legislative action by the Government. None
of that was reflected in the Queen’s Speech. Can we
therefore expect that, if Ofgem gives an unsatisfactory
answer to the Minister, we will get legislation on this
basis in this Session of Parliament?
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My Lords, I think the Secretary of State made it clear
that, if there is an unsatisfactory response from Ofgem,
he will resort to bringing through legislation. I should
add that we should be careful about the law of unintended
consequences in this case. It is very easy to win a
headline with a blanket price cap and to reap adverse
consequences later when the distortions that you bring
into the market through that price cap make it worse for
consumers rather than better.
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