Extracts from committee stage (Lords) (day 1) of the Criminal Finances Bill - March 28
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Lord Rosser (Lab):...My Lords, I have Amendment 72 in this group.
The Bill provides for extensions to the suspicious activity reports
regime under which private sector companies report suspected money
laundering—or, at least, they are meant to. The extensions or
enhancements enable the moratorium period during which the relevant
law enforcement agencies can gather evidence to be extended and
provide a power enabling the UK Financial Intelligence Unit in the
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Lord Rosser (Lab):...My Lords, I have Amendment 72 in this group. The Bill provides for extensions to the suspicious activity reports regime under which private sector companies report suspected money laundering—or, at least, they are meant to. The extensions or enhancements enable the moratorium period during which the relevant law enforcement agencies can gather evidence to be extended and provide a power enabling the UK Financial Intelligence Unit in the National Crime Agency to obtain further information from suspicious activity reporters. The enhancements also create a legal basis for sharing information between companies in order that they can build up a clearer picture of suspected money laundering. Amendment 72 would provide for a procedure, through the National Crime Agency, for prioritising the most serious suspicious activity reports to target effectively the use of scarce law enforcement resources. Private sector companies and professionals, such as accountants, are required by law to make a suspicious activity report every time they become aware that a person might be in possession of the proceeds of crime, and that applies equally even if the amounts involved are small or if the information is far from conclusive or far from being considered fully reliable. The same duty to report applies whether the suspicion relates to a theft of a few pounds from petty cash or to what could be serious organised crime... Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts:...My Lords, I support Amendment 72, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Rosser. It has been common ground in our discussions this evening that the volume of SARs is rising all the time. There are now over 1,500 a working day and it slightly defies belief that those are all getting anything like the attention that they should. Those of us who have had experience of this find that the National Crime Agency is extremely reluctant to allow any inhibition on its ability to call for SARs at every level. It should be possible to have discussions about automatically asking for a time limit—not that the information could not be asked for subsequently—of 25 or 50 years. One of my most recent PEP inquiries involved events 53 years ago. I simply cannot believe that collecting that sort of information is a good use of my time or the bank’s. There would be a great deal of virtue in my noble friend trying to persuade the NCA that some focus was a good idea. Getting the focus that is badly needed, and things like time and a de minimis figure, would make the whole system much more effective. The amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, is a first step towards that and is worthy of serious consideration. Baroness Williams of Trafford:My Lords, these amendments cover measures in Chapter 2 of Part 1 of the Bill. I thank noble Lords who have taken part in the debate. As the Action Plan for Anti-money Laundering and Counter-terrorist Finance set out, the Government see public/private partnership as central to tackling money laundering and terrorist financing. A major part of this approach is to provide support for the effective exchange of information, both within the private sector, and between the public and private sectors, to increase our collective knowledge of threats and vulnerabilities; to help the regulated sector to protect itself, and to improve the quality of the UK’s financial intelligence. The provisions in Chapter 2 assist this approach, and our amendments will enhance their ability to do so.
I hope noble Lords will agree that the government amendments in
this group are technical and uncontroversial. Clause 11 permits
the UK Financial Intelligence Unit—or UKFIU—hosted in the
National Crime Agency, to request further information in relation
to a suspicious activity report, or following a request from a
foreign authority, from any member of the regulated sector.
Clause 35 allows the police to do the same in relation to
terrorist finance. At present, the clause will allow the NCA and
police to direct that further information is provided through
issuing a further information notice. If the information is not
provided in accordance with the direction, the NCA will be able
to apply to a court for a further information order to require
the person to provide the information requested. However,
following further consultations with operational partners, we
have concluded that a further information notice is not required,
as the NCA can already request information to be provided
voluntarily under existing powers. Government Amendments 64 to
69, 130 to 137 and 173 will therefore remove further information
notices. If the regulated sector entity declines to provide
information on a voluntary basis, the NCA or police can still
apply to a magistrates’ court for a further information
order...
Lord Hodgson of Astley
Abbotts: My Lords, I have Amendments 126 and 127 in
this group. They impose duties on the National Crime Agency
regarding the performance of its duties and the way it supervises
the bodies that report to it. I tabled the amendments to address
my concern that the country’s anti-money laundering regulations,
which were and remain a critical part of the fight against
financial crime, are not as effective as they should or could
be... “regulatory activities should be proportionate, accountable, consistent, transparent and”— last but not least— “targeted only at cases in which action is needed”. Because the NCA is only half the story, as it has to carry out its work through regulated firms, Amendment 127 imposes a further duty on it “to ensure enforcement”: that,
“persons or bodies that are required to exercise due diligence …
are doing so responsibly and effectively”...
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