Preventing and Combating Violence Against Women and Domestic
Violence (Ratification of Convention) Bill Second Reading 10.11
am Moved by Baroness Gale That the Bill
be now read a second time. Baroness Gale (Lab) My Lords, it
is a great pleasure to bring this important Private Member’s Bill
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Preventing and Combating Violence Against Women and Domestic
Violence (Ratification of Convention) Bill
Second Reading
10.11 am
Moved by
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That the Bill be now read a second time.
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(Lab)
My Lords, it is a great pleasure to bring this important
Private Member’s Bill to your Lordships’ House. It has been
guided with conviction and passion through the other place
by its sponsor, Dr . Its purpose is
to unblock the log-jam which has thus far delayed
ratification of the Council of Europe Convention on
Preventing and Combating Violence against Women and
Domestic Violence, which is better known as the Istanbul
convention. It also puts on a statutory footing important
mechanisms to hold the Government to account in their
progress towards ratification.
The UK signed the Istanbul convention in June 2012, having
played an important role in its negotiation and drafting.
However, despite the important progress made by the present
and previous Governments—including a range of new
legislation that prepares the UK for compliance with the
treaty, and repeated verbal commitments to the principle of
ratification—the process has stalled and, nearly five years
on, the treaty remains unratified.
The Istanbul convention is unique, ground-breaking
international legislation which enshrines the basic human
right of women and girls to live free from violence in both
the public and private spheres. Preventing violence against
women and domestic violence can save lives and reduce human
suffering. The convention focuses on three important aims:
preventing violence against women, protecting victims and
survivors of abuse, and prosecuting perpetrators. It brings
greater coherence, consistency and strategic direction to
the important work already undertaken by organisations,
communities and governments that aims to eliminate all
forms of violence and discrimination against women and
promote substantive equality between women and men. It has
been hailed as the best piece of international policy and
practice for eliminating violence against women that exists
anywhere. It is the first legislation that sets minimum
standards for government responses to victims and survivors
of gender-based violence. The Istanbul convention is broad
in scope, and the aims are very specific. Covering
criminal, civil and migration law, it sets minimum
standards for the protection of survivors and for access to
services.
Governments who ratify the convention are required to work
to prevent violence and bring about an attitudinal change.
It explicitly covers many manifestations of gender- based
violence, including physical and psychological abuse,
stalking, sexual violence including rape, forced
marriages, Female genital mutilation and
so-called honour crimes. The Istanbul convention is unique
in that it understands that states cannot be responsible
for preventing violence against women and domestic violence
on their own, and calls on countries to work together to
tackle cross-border issues. It calls on all members of
society to help reach the ultimate goal of a world free
from all forms of violence against women and domestic
violence. It recognises that women are disproportionately
affected by sexual and domestic violence because of
underlying gender inequalities, which are also compounded
by abuse. The convention also places an emphasis on
challenging the misogynistic attitudes that perpetuate
gender inequality as a means of preventing violence and
abuse.
Preventive measures are not the only important issue.
Protecting victims and survivors and providing them with
appropriate support are vital. States that ratify the
Istanbul convention are required to ensure that accessible
shelters exist in sufficient numbers and in adequate
geographical distribution. Ratifying the Istanbul
convention would put a duty on the Government to ensure
that women’s refuges exist and provide important support at
a time when women need it most. It also puts on a statutory
footing the provision of rape crisis centres, 24-hour
advice lines and access to useful information. The Council
of Europe says:
“It should be borne in mind that it is not enough to set up
protection structures and support services for victims. It
is equally important to make sure victims are informed of
their rights and know where and how to get help”.
It is an important consideration that anyone can be a
victim of sexual violence or domestic abuse, regardless of
economic background, age, ethnicity, religion or gender.
However, we know that certain characteristics increase the
risks: for example, poorer women and disabled women are at
a greater risk of domestic abuse, while women from some
ethnic minorities or cultural backgrounds are at greater
risk of certain forms of gender-based violence.
One question that is asked frequently is, “What about the
men?”. I would like to deal with this, because it was a
point of contention in the other place. The convention
itself explicitly addresses this issue in Article 4, where
it makes it clear that its provisions apply to all persons,
regardless of gender, and a whole range of other protected
characteristics. However, the convention primarily focuses
on women, and it is important that it does, because sexual
violence and domestic abuse affect women to a hugely
disproportionate extent, both in terms of prevalence and
severity. In England and Wales in 2015, over 92% of the
prosecutions brought for domestic abuse involved a male
perpetrator and a female victim. Two women a week die at
the hands of a partner or former partner. This does not
mean that crimes committed by women against men, or by men
against men, are less serious—they are serious—but to
ignore the gendered dynamic of such types of crime would be
wrong. One woman in four in the UK will experience sexual
or domestic violence in her lifetime. The sheer scale of
the problem demands that we take it more seriously.
The Joint Committee on Human Rights, in its sixth report of
the 2014-15 Session, entitled Violence Against Women and
Girls, recommended that the UK Government ratify the
Istanbul convention. It raised concerns at the time that
the inter-ministerial group had insufficient powers, with
witnesses to the committee criticising the group for not
taking a holistic approach towards ending violence against
women and girls because of the lack of representation from
immigration officials. Asylum Aid recommended at the time
that the Immigration Minister and UK Visas and Immigration
should have representation on the group to ensure that the
issues arising are dealt with effectively. I would
appreciate it if the Minister said something on this
today—or perhaps she could write to me later—as I would
like to see these issues addressed.
On 24 November last year, I asked the Minister in your
Lordships’ House why the Government had not yet ratified
the Istanbul convention and when they intended to do so.
The Minister said that the Government were committed to
ratifying, but that in order to do so they would need to
legislate to take extra-terrestrial jurisdiction over a
wide range of offences.
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Noble Lords
Extraterritorial.
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Did I get that wrong? I thank noble Lords for correcting
me, because that would have taken the jurisdiction a lot
wider than I intended. As a result of that, I shall refer
to extraterritorial jurisdiction as “ETJ” from now on; I
think that will be a lot easier.
Perpetrators who are UK nationals or residents can evade
prosecution by committing crimes as abhorrent as rape while
abroad, and that should stop. There is precedent on ETJ:
the Government already exercise such powers for similar
offences committed against children overseas. They exercise
ETJ in a range of other areas—for example, drugs offences,
financial crime, terrorism and other forms of organised
crime.
I was pleased to see that the Prime Minister has committed
herself to overseeing a new Bill on domestic violence. I
hope that such legislation will include the changes
necessary to bring the UK into line with Article 44 of the
Istanbul convention—that is, those relating to ETJ. Could
the Minister outline the intention behind this new
legislation and whether it will allow the Government to
take ETJ over the necessary offences, ensuring that the UK
is compliant with the convention and thereby paving the way
for ratification?
There is a real need for action in the efforts to end
violence against women. Two women are killed by their
partners or former partners every week in England and Wales
alone. In the past year, 1.2 million women were victims of
domestic abuse in England and Wales. In the same timeframe,
across the UK, 87,500 rapes and more than 400,000 sexual
assaults were reported to police. It is well known that
most cases of sexual assault and rape go unreported, so we
must not underestimate the scale of the impact on women and
children in our communities. There is clearly a need for
action.
Ms Rashida Manjoo, the UN special rapporteur on violence
against women, has said:
“Violence against women and girls is the most pervasive
human rights violation we face globally, whether in times
of peace, conflict or post-conflict transition”.
It is so normalised that we hardly even notice how much we
put up with. I was moved by some of the contributions from
Members in the other place who spoke courageously of their
own experiences. It affects us all. But violence against
women is not natural and it is not inevitable.
I turn to the specifics of the Bill. Made up of three
clauses, it requires the Secretary of State to report to
both Houses on the steps being taken to enable the UK to
ratify the convention. It requires the Government to come
forward with a timetable by which they will ratify the
convention. I was pleased with my meeting with the Minister
this week, for which I thank her, to discuss the Bill in
the run-up to this debate, and I welcome the Government’s
support for the Bill.
Clause 1 requires that the Secretary of State lay a report
in both Houses of Parliament setting out the steps
necessary to ratify. This includes passing legislation
through not only both Houses but the devolved
Administrations of Scotland and Northern Ireland. I know
the Government are committed to working with the existing
devolved Administrations, and I welcome that commitment.
Clause 2 requires the Government to make an annual report
to both Houses on the progress toward ratification no later
than by 1 November in each year leading up to ratification.
That report comes with a Government commitment to make an
Oral Statement to Parliament, so that MPs and noble Lords
can hold the Government to account on progress towards
ratification. The convention itself commits the Government
to thorough reporting requirements through annual reports
to the Council of Europe’s expert group, GREVIO. It is
important that parliamentarians have opportunities to
scrutinise this report.
In Committee in the Commons, the Government committed to
making an Oral Statement on their compliance with the
convention post-ratification. I would be grateful if the
Minister made a similar commitment so that these issues can
be debated in your Lordships’ House, rather than a report
merely being placed in our Library.
The Bill is short and simple but it has proved to be
important, unlocking the logjam in Government departments.
I hope it will lead to ratification at the earliest
possible opportunity. While we in this place have the
privilege to shape and develop legislation, we need to take
cognisance of our responsibilities too. I have been
heartened by the powerful civil society movement of women
and men across the UK who have campaigned for the UK to
ratify the convention.
The breadth of support from organisations and activists
shows the strength of feeling on this issue. The IC Change
campaign is one of the most inspiring campaigns. Run by
volunteers, it helped to mobilise thousands of people the
length and breadth of the country to engage with MPs in
order to get the Bill through the other place. The women
who led that campaign should be very proud. It is often the
norm for civil society to be out in front on issues such as
this. Women activists have campaigned, and Parliament has
to try to keep up.
In the other place, the Bill was expertly stewarded by
, in the face of
some adversity, but with overwhelming cross-party support,
including from the government and opposition Front Benches.
This Bill is important. It gives us the opportunity of
oversight towards ratification, and a timetable—hopefully
short—within which that can be achieved. I beg to move.
10.27 am
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(CB)
My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Gale, on
bringing forward the Bill and introducing it so admirably
and comprehensively. Yesterday afternoon when I inquired in
the Whips’ Office how many were down to speak in this
debate, I was somewhat surprised and really rather shocked
to find that there were in fact only five—now there are
six—and that they included not a single male Temporal Peer.
So I put my name down, because heaven knows this is a
worthy and indeed compelling cause that is deserving of
support no less from men than from women.
We all know the appalling prevalence still today of
violence towards women, both domestic and in wider society.
I sat as a judge at various levels for 28 years and
therefore came across perhaps more than my fair share of
this violence, particularly in my earlier years as a High
Court judge sitting at the Old Bailey and then around the
country on circuit—murder, rapes and all those dreadful
sorts of offences.
I have few boasts to my name by way of legal achievement,
few jewels in my judicial crown, but I can and do boast of
being the first judge in this jurisdiction, in I think
1990, to rule that a husband is not permitted in law to
have intercourse with his wife quite simply whensoever he
chooses—in short, that there is such an offence as marital
rape. That decision was said at the time to fly in the face
of centuries of established legal principle but in fact,
happily, it was upheld by both the Court of Appeal and
indeed the Appeal Committee in your Lordships’ House.
Reading the excellent Dr Whiteford’s speech towards the end
of the debate in the other place on Third Reading, I was
struck by this passage, which, if your Lordships will allow
me, I will quote:
“On reflection, it strikes me powerfully that Parliament
has frequently been left playing catch-up on progress for
women: from those who campaign for women’s suffrage for
more than a century before it was achieved to those trade
unionists fought for equal pay for women years before the
Equal Pay Act 1970 came into force and the women who, in
the 1970s, set up refuges for women fleeing domestic abuse
at a time when there was absolutely no support from the
state or the authorities for women experiencing violence or
coercive control from an intimate partner—a time when rape
within marriage was not even a crime. Every step of the
way, it is citizens who have driven progressive change.
Sisters have had to do it for themselves”. —[Official
Report, Commons, 24/2/17; col. 1334.]
I thought it was time for a brother to enter the fray.
Of course I recognise, as Mr Nuttall and Mr Davies were at
pains to emphasise in the debate in the other place, that
there is all too much violence in society and in certain
domestic contexts against men and boys too. The Istanbul
convention and the Bill on their face appear to do nothing
for them. But there can be no doubt, as the noble Baroness
made plain in opening the debate, that it is women who
suffer disproportionately. They suffer most from the hands
of the opposite sex. There is absolutely no basis to
suggest that advancing their cause, as the Bill proposes,
will set back the cause of male victims. Quite the reverse:
anything that raises the stakes, that raises the public’s
awareness of and revulsion at violence generally in
society, will redound to the advantage of all victims.
Of course I recognise that the Bill—and the Istanbul
convention—does little of itself to alter the substantive
law under which we seek to deter and control violence
against women. To say it does nothing is something of an
exaggeration: the convention requires that we broaden our
extraterritorial jurisdiction so as to promote
international co-operation in combating violence against
women. That, indeed, is why the Bill was amended in the
Commons: to recognise the need for some small further delay
beyond even the years since we initially signed the
convention. The delay is to identify precisely and then to
satisfy that requirement for extraterritorial jurisdiction.
As Mr Nuttall himself said in the other place:
“The purpose is to try to tie down the Government to doing
something and to stop this matter from drifting on”.
—[Official Report, Commons, 24/2/17; col. 1337.]
As has already been noted, the other place voted to pass
the Bill by 138 votes to 1. Your Lordships will readily
agree that it would be nothing short of disgraceful and
deeply damaging to the reputation of this House if we do
not now ensure that it secures safe and speedy passage at
all stages through our House. I therefore wish it God’s
speed to secure its early passage if not in this Session,
certainly in the next.
10.34 am
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The Lord
We on these Benches also give our wholehearted support to
the Bill. I have been following this issue for some
while—indeed, I have participated in previous debate and
tabled some Questions. I congratulate in the other
place and the noble Baroness, Lady Gale, on the hard work
that they and others have done in getting the Bill so far,
and the many agencies involved in getting it to us today,
including IC Change.
In the face of a number of cutbacks and closures of women’s
services and refuges, we need a step change. Surely we
should be giving a lead in this vital area. Violence
against women—indeed, any violence—is a tragic evil: tragic
because its effects can be so devastating, long lasting and
widespread; and evil, not simply because it is violence,
but because it is a violence which seeks to deny a
fundamental human dignity, which I believe comes from being
created in the image of God, given to all human beings.
Whatever form that violence comes in—whether that be rape,
forced marriage, psychological or political
abuse—gender-based violence against women invariably
attempts to reduce them to passive objects. It seeks to
deny them the status of personhood.
As a safe place of counsel within every local community,
the Church often finds itself on the front line, listening
to the stories of women who have faced violence and do not
know where else to turn. It is one of the greatest and
hardest privileges of priesthood to listen to a woman
telling her story of abuse. Indeed, sometimes it is a man,
although it has rightly been pointed out that this is
overwhelmingly an issue for women. We must not underplay
that. Of course we want to make sure that men are given
protection, but this must not distract us from this
important Bill. We hear someone telling their story of
abuse, sometimes tentatively for the very first time,
sometimes only just beginning to realise that actually, for
all sorts of social and familial reasons, they have
colluded with it and are only now beginning to realise that
it is simply wrong, and we then need to help them find the
right sort of support, which is profoundly difficult,
particularly in rural communities. I pay tribute to the
many organisations working with churches and helping us up
and down the country to respond to violence against women,
those churches offering premises or funding for refuges
and, in particular, the Christian charity Restored, whose
work in training dioceses and clergy is invaluable.
The noble Baroness, Lady Gale, has already rehearsed some
of the statistics, and I shall not repeat them, although I
note how horrific they are when one pauses to look at what
is still going on. I am also aware that there are other
areas here which have not been picked up. In the past, I
have tabled Questions about, for example, how many young
women under the age of marriage in this country are being
taken abroad, married and coming back to this country. It
turned out that we have no idea how many such young women
are coming back having been married under laws
overseas—sometimes possibly polygamously; we simply do not
know. A number of areas here are causing great concern.
In recent years, the Government have made substantial
progress on legislating against gender-based violence, and
I pay particular tribute to our Prime Minister, who I think
all sides of the House will agree has worked tirelessly in
both her current capacity and as Home Secretary to address
many key legislative areas—legislation to combat forced
marriage, Female genital mutilation, modern
slavery, coercive and controlling behaviour and stalking.
The UK has one of the strongest legislative frameworks in
the world. The Prime Minister’s work as Home Secretary to
improve police reporting of and response to domestic abuse
is also to be commended—indeed, celebrated.
However, in that context, it is regrettable that the Bill
is required, given Her Majesty’s Government’s repeatedly
stated commitment to ratifying the convention. In answer to
a series of Written Questions back in 2014, after the
convention had come into force, the Government informed me:
“Justice Ministers are currently considering the extent to
which we need to amend the criminal law of England and
Wales for compliance with Article 44 prior to ratification
of the Convention”—[Official Report, 27/11/14; col WA
3233.]
Yet, three years later, it seems as though Justice
Ministers are still “considering”. That delay in
ratification is, ultimately, a failure in political will.
If we were being charitable to Her Majesty’s Government, we
could say that there have been one or two political
distractions over the past year. However, I hope that the
new reporting requirements contained in the Bill will
encourage Her Majesty’s Government to throw their weight
unreservedly behind the legislative changes required for
ratification—particularly the issue of extraterritorial
jurisdiction.
Not only will ratification of the Istanbul convention
bolster the domestic framework for combating violence
against women, acting as a tool by which civil society can
hold the Government to account on the provision of
resources to combat gender-based violence; our ratification
of the convention also has an international dimension. As
the Joint Committee on Human Rights put it,
“the delay in ratifying the Istanbul Convention could harm
the UK’s international reputation as a world leader in
combating violence against women and girls”.
Ratification of the convention would be the clearest signal
of our commitment to ending the injustice of gender-based
violence. It would commit us to sharing best practice
internationally, and it would strengthen the Istanbul
convention itself as a marker by which other countries
might be held to account.
I sincerely hope that Her Majesty’s Government give this
Bill a swift passage through your Lordships’ House, and
that they follow the passage of the Bill with an equally
swift timetable for ratification of the Istanbul
convention.
10.41 am
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(Non-Afl)
My Lords, I welcome today’s Second Reading and congratulate
Dr Whiteford and her colleagues in the other place, and the
noble Baroness, Lady Gale, for their persistence in getting
us to this point. This pernicious abuse of women’s rights
and human rights continues to plague our society. It is
almost regarded as normalised behaviour in many households.
Needless to say, it transcends all communities; shockingly,
so many women seem not to know still that it is against the
law.
An internationally recognised provision would lend
significant armoury to the many women human rights
defenders, as well as instructing in no uncertain terms
still largely male-led institutions that eradication of
violence against women is as important a priority as
providing education, health and housing. They would not be
able to hide behind austerity measures and make women’s
refuges and other services their first collateral.
We should take pride in the UK in having secured some of
the best policies and practices on domestic violence,
including the introduction of new domestic abuse offences,
protection orders and criminalising forced marriage—with
which I do not agree, but it appears to be doing its job.
Then there are the more vigorous laws on Female genital mutilation. But we need
to go further in providing absolute protection to those
facing violence and seek to eliminate violence against
women.
We have tolerated consecutive generations of violence
plaguing women’s lives, with two women facing death each
week. There are 1.2 million women victims, and more than
87,000 rapes are reported on top of 400,000 sexual
assaults. God alone knows how many women are still not able
to report. In addition, 11,900 children were raped last
year. Twenty-nine per cent of all those statistics are from
the BME communities. So despite all the progress of women’s
emancipation, our daughters and granddaughters are still
facing an insurmountable level of barbaric violence in our
society, and we have to do everything we can to ensure that
it does not continue.
The UK’s role in shaping the Istanbul convention was
significant, so I do not understand how five years have
since passed and we have not chosen to ratify it. I am glad
to have arrived at this point, whereby government is
prepared to work towards compliance. Ratification would
indicate a powerful step towards empowerment of women and
is certain to afford greater protection of women and girls
suffering violence, as well as pushing for a more
comprehensive response to addressing violence, giving
victims and survivors rightful access to all the necessary
specialist services. Ratifying the convention adds another
layer of protection, enables local and international
agencies to respond more comprehensively and offers
parliamentarians a further instrument of accountability.
Ratification would assist in harmonisation of laws and
assist government and state agencies to respond within a
comprehensive framework and set of policies which not only
provide enhanced protection but also seek to empower women.
Why would we not do it without any hesitation?
On the extraterritorial requirement, I was involved in the
dowry inquiry led by Mr in the other place
last year. A huge number of British citizens complained
either that their marriages were not legally recognised in
this country and that when they faced violence they had no
recourse to law, or that the laws under which they were
married in one country were not recognised in this country.
That level of harmonisation would, I hope, be an integral
part of this.
We have laws and are continuously improving on their
implementation. The Istanbul convention can be another
layer of safety. We are a signatory, and now need to show
that we are serious about eradication of violence by
ratifying it. I believe that, by ratification, we would
demonstrate our total commitment to all men and women that
violence in all its forms is not tolerable in our society
today. Ratification embodies a cohesive and integrated
approach, not only protecting women with laws but mandating
institutions to provide the necessary services, so that
women and girls can live free of fear of violence.
Finally, I am confident our ambition is safe in the hands
of our current Prime Minister, and the Minister here, who
has done much to advance the previous progresses made on
this issue. But can the Minister say what the implication
of Brexit negotiation will be on the reporting requirement
or signing up to the ratification?
10.47 am
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(LD)
My Lords, I, too, thank Dr Whiteford, and I am sure that
the noble Baroness did not mean to suggest that Scotland
and Northern Ireland are not integral parts of the United
Kingdom.
The noble and learned Lord, Lord Brown, has rightly
reminded us that this is a people’s issue, not just a
women’s issue; his crown is highly polished, and very
bejewelled. I declare an interest as I was a member of the
board and chair of the domestic violence charity Refuge.
That was many years ago, but I still declare the interest
because that experience was very vivid. Very recently,
within the last few days, I have agreed to become a member
of an advisory group for the organisation Voice 4 Victims.
It struck me that this debate might almost have been
wrapped up with yesterday’s debate for International
Women’s Day, on the UK’s role in promoting gender equality.
Because of the significance of the exercise of the UK’s
role, it would be very significant if the UK ratified the
convention—or, I should say, it will be significant when it
does.
Reports on violence against women often have a section
headed something like, “What is violence against women and
girls?”. Sadly, there are many women and girls who could
testify. This week, a survey of laws in 73 countries found
that there are bad laws underpinning what was described as
a global “epidemic of sexual violence”. The aims of the
convention—prevention, protection, prosecution and
integrating policies—are so sensible as hardly to need any
description. However, there have only been 10 ratifications
so far.
I joined the board of Refuge on the day I was asked to come
to your Lordships’ House 25 years ago. Attitudes in the UK
have changed, but not as much as one might expect in a
generation. They have often changed among senior people who
have to deal with the issue—the police are one example—but
less so in lower ranks. Some of us were privileged to hear
DCC Louisa Rolfe from West Midlands Police talk about
coercive control at a recent all-party group meeting. Her
understanding and description were very impressive indeed.
As I said, there have not been the changes one might expect
in a generation. The importance of the issue is enormous,
yet there is a lack of belief and understanding.
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(Lab)
I compliment the noble Baroness on raising the issue of
people’s attitudes. I declare an interest: as a local
councillor in Preston in the early 1970s, I was part of a
group trying to establish refuge provision. I was invited
to speak to senior members of Chorley Council. The then
leader of that council finished the meeting by saying that
he was absolutely appalled that men in Preston behaved like
that—of course, they did not in Chorley. Another councillor
came to speak to me and said that her son-in-law was a
barrister and her daughter had complained of being a
victim. The daughter’s father would not believe that a
barrister could behave like that. Today’s debate
demonstrates the wide range of backgrounds and areas that
people come from.
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(Con)
My Lords, I remind the House that if there are to be
interruptions they should be kept very brief.
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My Lords, I am grateful for that intervention. I was about
to say that one often hears, “It does not happen here”. The
lack of understanding that what is happening is a crime is,
sadly, shared among those who experience that crime.
I am a member of the Joint Committee on Human Rights, which
in 2015 undertook an inquiry to examine progress towards
ratification. The noble Baroness referred to that. Its
report told your Lordships that,
“the Convention would have a strong indirect effect on the
UK legal system”,
firstly in that it,
“could be cited by the UK courts as persuasive authority”,
and secondly through the role of the European Court of
Human Rights, given that the Government are bound by its
judgment and, therefore,
“the terms of the Convention could have a strong indirect
effect on the UK legal system”.
The report also commented on some of the evidence that the
committee had obtained. Witnesses had told the committee
that ratification would,
“help the UK’s position internationally in tackling
violence against women and girls and would encourage other
countries to follow suit”.
The Bar Human Rights Committee of England and Wales said
that ratification would emphasise the state’s positive duty
and it would,
“provide a further basis in law for those who wish to
persuade the state to provide adequate and meaningful
resources to construct an effective mechanism to protect
women from gender violence and harm”.
That raises the question of whether there is a resource
issue behind this which may not have been acknowledged in
the same way as the concerns about the devolved
institutions. I hope that the Minister will assure us that
there is no resource component precluding ratification. The
evidence from the Minister to the Committee referred to
ratification being a matter for the devolved
Administrations. Let us not seek to avoid any
responsibility ourselves in that area. The Government’s
response to the JCHR’s report emphasised their commitment
to the convention but referred again to the devolved
Administrations.
We have heard about the international context but, as we
have also heard, this is not just a third-world issue. Real
commitment would put all the mechanisms in place. It would
be a considerable achievement of Her Majesty’s Government
both to be able to ratify the convention and actually to
ratify it. It would be a solid expression of our commitment
to preventing and combating violence against women and
domestic violence. It would put the country’s legislation
where its mouth is. According to the JCHR, the UK is in a
good position to ratify. The then Home Secretary showed her
personal commitment and only a single legislative change is
required.
Last year, the JCHR visited Strasbourg. I recall a member
of the Council of Europe strongly emphasising the
importance of the UK’s example. The context was
different—we were talking about compliance with the
judgment of the court on a different issue—but the message
was the same: the example set by a country which is
respected and whose respect needs to be maintained. We
support the Bill from these Benches.
10.58 am
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(Lab)
My Lords, it is a pleasure and a privilege to make a brief
response from the Opposition Front Bench. I congratulate my
noble friend Lady Gale on bringing forward the Bill and on
her excellent opening speech, which made a case so
compelling that I challenge the Minister to resist it in
any way at all. I also congratulate my noble friend on a
political lifetime of campaigning for women and girls. She
is an inspiration to so many of us on these Benches.
It has also been a delight to hear speeches from almost all
around the House, particularly from the noble and learned
Lord, Lord Brown, who has made such an important
contribution to the legal position of women with his
ground-breaking ruling. I commend him for turning out on a
Friday, at the end of a long week, to speak up, not just
for his Benches but for men who support this. It has been a
pleasure to hear speeches from the Liberal Democrat and
Bishops’ Benches. I look forward to the Conservative
Benches being just as encouraging when the Minister speaks.
Not only do I support the Bill but, I am pleased to say, it
has the full support of the Official Opposition. The
has confirmed that in
government we would ratify the Istanbul convention. The
elimination of violence against women and girls should be a
priority in any society. We are completely committed to
ensuring that women and girls can live safe and secure
lives wherever they live and whatever they choose to do. As
my honourable friend said in another place:
“Ending violence against women and girls requires a
radical, seismic, societal shift in power and
attitudes”.—[Official Report, Commons, 16/1/16; col. 1113.]
This Bill may be a small contribution but it is a very
important one and shows the role our Parliament can play in
tackling that challenge.
We heard a catalogue of appalling violence from the right
reverend Prelate the , the noble
Baroness, Lady Uddin, and the noble and learned Lord,
. I
do not need to rehearse that but, as my noble friend Lady
Gale said, we need to understand that this kind of violence
perpetrated against women and girls is gendered violence.
It is not an accident that such a disproportionate amount
of it is directed against women and girls. The context in
which that happens is global inequality—an inequality of
power and access to the levers of power. We need to
understand that there is a connection with that even in our
own society. We have a female Prime Minister but there are
only seven other women in the Cabinet and only 29% of MPs
are women. We saw recently the celebrations following the
by-election just before Christmas. The result of that
by-election meant that, throughout our history, as many
women had been elected to the other place as there were men
sitting there on that day. In this House, only 26% of us
are women.
Therefore, we are making real progress. However, the
reality is that the context of this issue here and
elsewhere around the world means that we have to take
particular steps to address the challenges faced by women
and girls. That is the context for this Bill. It is that
which makes the Council of Europe Convention on Preventing
and Combating Violence Against Women and Domestic
Violence—the Istanbul convention—so important. As my noble
friend Lady Gale said, it is a unique, ground-breaking
piece of legislation which offers an international
framework for tackling violence against women and girls.
We heard in the other place that the Government are
committed to ratification of the Istanbul convention, which
is very welcome. Therefore, I hope that they will give the
Bill a fair wind and provide a timetable for ratification.
I hope they will also tell the House what legislative
changes will be needed to ratify it. I look forward to
hearing about the ETJ raised by my noble friend Lady Gale.
As the Bill will cut across devolved and reserved powers,
can the Minister tell the House what discussions the
Government have had with the devolved Administrations about
implementing this?
This short Bill provides us with the steps that we need to
take a key move forward in the battle to eliminate violence
against women and girls. I hope very much that the House
and the Government give it wholehearted support.
11.01 am
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The Minister of State, Home Office (Baroness Williams of
Trafford) (Con)
My Lords, first, I wish to take a moment to thank the noble
Baroness, Lady Gale, for taking this Bill through the House
and for the very constructive conversation that we had this
week about it. I single out for special praise the noble
and learned Lord, Lord Brown, and the right reverend
Prelate the . It is
always nice to hear men contribute to a debate that is
mainly about women. I say at this juncture that the
Government have given their full backing to the Bill and we
wholly support its aim of ensuring that we deliver on our
commitment to ratify the Istanbul convention.
We all recognise that violence is still far too prevalent
in our society today, and that women still face a much
higher risk of gender-based violence than men. Physical,
sexual and domestic abuse affect women disproportionately:
that is the stark reality, I am afraid. We also know that
many of these crimes remain unreported—we talked about that
at Question Time yesterday or the day before—leaving
victims to suffer in silence and perpetrators escaping
justice.
Our commitment to ratifying the Istanbul convention not
only shows how seriously this Government are taking their
responsibility to ensure that all victims are supported and
that perpetrators are brought to justice but also our
ongoing commitment to strengthening international
co-operation in this field, which is vital.
This Government have put prevention at the heart of our
approach. We have significantly strengthened the law since
we first published our first call to end violence against
women and girls—VAWG—strategy in 2010, as the right
reverend Prelate the pointed out.
We have criminalised forced marriage and breach of a forced
marriage protection order in England and Wales. The right
reverend Prelate made an interesting point about forced
marriage and girls being taken out of the UK for this
reason. The joint Home Office and Foreign and Commonwealth
Office Forced Marriage Unit provides support and advice to
victims, those at risk and professionals. The FMU’s most
recent statistics were published yesterday and show that in
2016 advice or support was provided in 1,428 cases; 371 of
those, or 26%, involved under-18s. The unit handled cases
relating to 60—
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The Lord
I am sorry to break in but I think I made a slightly
different point. However, I am very grateful to have those
statistics and will ask for them each year. I think the
question is that we have no proactive way of working out
why, for example, people are going through immigration to
see whether there is any way that we can find out more
information about that. It is simply an unknown problem.
That was what I was trying to push the Government on. Can
the Minister comment briefly on that?
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I am very happy to comment on that. The right reverend
Prelate makes a very good point about how we should be
proactive about these things as opposed to being reactive.
One of the things on which we have taken significant steps
over the last few months and years concerns our
intelligence at the border and training border staff to
look for possible cases of people trafficking or forced
marriage. There is a whole host of things that immigration
staff are looking out for to prevent some of these things
happening. I am glad that the right reverend Prelate
brought up that issue. In addition to that, we have
fast-tracked Female genital
mutilation protection orders and have
introduced a new mandatory reporting duty for FGM.
We have strengthened legislation on stalking, creating two
new offences, and have commissioned training to improve the
understanding of stalking among those who come into contact
with victims. We will also introduce a new stalking
protection order with criminal sanctions to help protect
victims at the earliest possible opportunity.
The Rape Action Plan launched in 2014 and led by the Crown
Prosecution Service and the National Policing Lead for Rape
is aiding the Government’s drive to ensure that every
report of rape is treated seriously and every victim is
given the help that they deserve. We have protected funding
for rape support services at current levels in 2016-17,
providing independent, specialist support to female victims
of both recent and historic sexual violence. We have also
strengthened the law on domestic violence with a new
offence of domestic abuse that covers controlling and
coercive behaviour. Again, this was another thing we
touched on at Question Time on Wednesday. The new offence
protects victims who would otherwise be subjected to
sustained patterns of abuse that can lead to total control
of their lives by the perpetrator. Some victims do not even
know that this is happening to them, as we also discussed.
The new domestic violence protection orders and the
domestic violence disclosure scheme have also been rolled
out across England and Wales. This is all alongside the
Government’s work to continue reforming front-line
agencies’ response to VAWG. It is vital that victims have
the confidence to report these crimes, knowing that they
will get the support they need and that everything will be
done to bring offenders to justice.
The UK continues to be a global leader in its efforts to
tackle VAWG and our reforms to domestic law support a
stronger international framework. The Istanbul convention
highlights the need for more effective international and
regional co-operation. While there is no one-size-fits-all
model in our approach, the measures in the convention will
ensure that more robust action is taken through legally
binding and harmonised standards.
In most respects, the measures already in place in the UK
to protect women and girls from violence comply with, or go
further than, the convention requires. However, before we
ratify the convention, we must ensure that we are fully
compliant with it. There is one outstanding issue regarding
introducing extraterritorial jurisdiction—or even
extra-terrestrial jurisdiction—which needs to be addressed
before we are considered compliant. We already have ETJ
over some of the offences covered by the convention,
including the common-law offence of murder, sexual offences
against children, forced marriage and FGM. However, there
are a number of offences, including rape of an over-18,
sexual assault and domestic abuse, where it still does not
apply. Further amendments to domestic law are necessary so
that we fully comply with the requirements in Article 44 of
the convention. That will require the introduction of
primary legislation in England and Wales, as well as in
Scotland and Northern Ireland. We are working closely with
ministerial colleagues in the Ministry of Justice to
progress this issue and, as the Prime Minister signalled,
we will explore all options for bringing the necessary
legislation forward.
I think it was the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, who asked
about the devolved Administrations. We are in regular
contact with them about the Bill and the Istanbul
convention, and the Minister for Vulnerability,
Safeguarding and Countering Extremism has written to her
counterparts on the matter.
The Bill places a duty on the Government to lay a report
before Parliament as soon as is reasonably practicable
after the Bill comes into force, setting out the steps to
be taken to enable the UK to ratify the convention, as well
as the timescale within which ratification is expected. It
also requires the Government to lay an annual report before
Parliament on progress toward ratification. I recognise
that noble Lords want reassurance that we will continue to
update Parliament on our ongoing compliance with the
convention post-ratification.
The noble Baroness, Lady Uddin, asked about Brexit, but we
are talking about a Council of Europe treaty that is
independent of European Union functions and processes, so
Brexit will not affect the UK ratifying the Istanbul
convention. Once the UK has ratified it, we will be
required to submit regular reports to the Council of Europe
on compliance. Those reports will provide detailed
information on the measures to tackle VAWG, the role of
civil society organisations in addressing these crimes, and
on prosecutions and convictions. We will ensure that both
Houses have sight of those reports.
The Group of Experts on Action against Violence against
Women and Domestic Violence—known as GREVIO—which is the
independent expert body responsible for monitoring
implementation of the convention, will scrutinise the
reports and prepare its own report with recommendations.
That report will also be available for parliamentary and
public scrutiny. As I have said, the Government are very
pleased to continue supporting the Bill and its aim of
ensuring that we formally demonstrate to Parliament our
progress on delivering against our commitment to ratify the
convention.
We have made progress in tackling VAWG, but we are not
complacent. We know that there is more to do to ensure that
the victims of terrible crimes get the support they need.
Our cross-government VAWG strategy, published last March,
sets out our ambition that by the end of this Parliament no
victim of abuse will be turned away from the necessary
support. The strategy is underpinned by increased funding
of £80 million, which includes the Home Office’s £15
million, three-year violence against women and girls
service transformation fund to aid, promote and embed the
best local practice and ensure that early intervention and
prevention become the norm. An additional £20 million for
victims of domestic abuse was announced in the Chancellor’s
spring statement.
This funding will help to deliver our goal of working with
local commissioners to deliver a secure future for rape
support centres, refuges and FGM and forced marriage units,
while driving major change across all services so that
early intervention and prevention is the norm. Furthermore,
to ensure that all victims get the right support at the
right time, we have set out a clear blueprint for local
action through a new national statement of expectations.
That sets out what local areas need to do to prevent
offending and to support victims and it will encourage
organisations to work with local commissioners to
disseminate the NSE and support the implementation of best
practice.
We have also recently announced some key measures that will
further strengthen the response to VAWG. A major new
programme of work on domestic abuse has been announced by
the Prime Minister. That cross-governmental work is being
co-ordinated by the Home Secretary and the Justice
Secretary and will look at legislative and non-legislative
options to improve support for victims. The measures that
come from that will encourage victims to report their
abusers and see them brought to justice, and further raise
public awareness.
We also recently announced that relationship and sex
education will be put on a statutory footing so that every
child has access to age-appropriate provision in a
consistent way. The Department for Education will consult
on making PSHE statutory.
We must continue to challenge the many forms of
discrimination that women still face and ensure that we
make VAWG everyone’s business. We all have our part to play
in protecting women and girls from violence, and I feel—and
very much hope—that noble Lords will join me in supporting
the Bill.
11.15 am
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My Lords, I thank all noble Members of the House who have
taken part. I especially thank the noble and learned Lord,
, for
his contribution and all the wonderful work he has done in
this field. I also thank the right reverend Prelate the
for speaking
about his experiences of listening to women who have suffered
domestic violence and for bringing that to the House. I
mention the two male Peers who spoke because we need women
and men to take part—this issue is not just for women, as
other noble Lords have pointed out.
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Uddin, for her support and
for talking about her experience in this field. I also thank
the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, for her work on the Joint
Committee on Human Rights and for speaking about how that
committee wants the Istanbul convention to be ratified. I was
interested in the intervention by my noble friend Lady
Farrington, who said that some people think that such
behaviour does not happen in their area. We know that it
happens everywhere, in every county in England, Wales and
Scotland—and in the whole world, actually. No country is free
from it, which is why it is really important to take action.
I thank my noble friend Lady Sherlock for the Opposition’s
support. There is support for the Bill right across the
House—I thank the Minister for her support, too—and I am sure
that working together with other Members, we will get it
through. I look forward to working with the Minister and I am
sure that in getting the Bill through your Lordships’ House,
she will keep my feet firmly on the ground and make sure that
it does not end up in outer space.
I know we will get compliance because the Government seem
determined to do that. I thank everyone again, including the
Minister for her co-operation, and I ask the House to give
the Bill a Second Reading.
Bill read a second time and committed to a Committee of the
Whole House.
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