Unauthorised Overdrafts 11.00 am Rachel Reeves (Leeds West)
(Lab) I beg to move, That this House has considered
fees and charges on unauthorised overdrafts. Overdrafts are
one of the most widely used credit products in the market. Almost
three in 10 people in the UK with personal current
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Unauthorised Overdrafts
11.00 am
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(Leeds West)
(Lab)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered fees and charges on
unauthorised overdrafts.
Overdrafts are one of the most widely used credit products
in the market. Almost three in 10 people in the UK with
personal current accounts have been overdrawn in the past
year. Overdrafts can be a flexible form of borrowing, and
most people use theirs for only a couple of months in the
year. However, a significant minority of people—around
10%—are much more frequent users and regularly go overdrawn
for nine months or more each year. There are also people
who regularly go over their overdraft limit and are hit by
exorbitant and disproportionate charges. The major banks
make more than £1 billion per year from charges on
unauthorised overdrafts—the majority, according to the head
of the Competition and Markets Authority, from financially
vulnerable customers.
StepChange Debt Charity estimates that 1.7 million people
in the UK are trapped in an overdraft cycle and
consistently use overdrafts to meet essential and emergency
costs. For many vulnerable customers who are already
struggling, regularly having to go into an overdraft or
over an overdraft limit can lead to and exacerbate
financial difficulties. Many hard-working families live
constantly o n their overdrafts, and those in chronic
financial difficulties often face impossible choices
between meeting the costs of essential bills and going
further overdrawn or over their overdraft limit. Those
people can struggle to get out of their overdrafts, as fees
and interest build up over time and make it increasingly
difficult to get out of the red. Those households are also
more likely to be on the edge of their overdrafts, and if
they go over, they face substantial and punitive charges
that push them into difficulties. If people do not have the
means to get out of their unarranged overdrafts, that can
lead to persistent charges, which make it successively
harder for them to avoid financial difficulties each month.
Last year, StepChange surveyed its clients with overdraft
debt to explore their experiences of overdraft charges. It
found that people with overdraft debt who contact the
charity regularly go into the red. On average, those people
had been in an unarranged overdraft for 11 of the past 12
months. Almost two thirds—62%—of the people StepChange
helps with overdraft debt regularly exceed their arranged
overdraft limit as they struggle to make ends meet; they
did so on average in five of the past 12 months. Borrowers
face average charges of £45 a time for slipping into an
unauthorised overdraft. That adds up to a massive £225 a
year of unauthorised overdraft charges on average.
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(Makerfield)
(Lab)
Does my hon. Friend agree that the cap on payday lending
has actually worked quite well and stopped unaffordable
charges, so in its review of high-cost credit, the
Financial Conduct Authority should look at introducing a
similar cap on overdraft charges and more affordable ways
of paying down debt?
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My hon. Friend has done a lot of work in this area, both as
a Member of Parliament and before she came to this place,
and she is absolutely right. I will come on to the
difference between caps on overdraft charges and those on
payday lending.
Research published today by Which? found that consumers
needing as little as £100 could be charged up to £156 more
by some major high street banks than the Financial Conduct
Authority allows payday loan companies to charge when
lending the same amount for the same period. For example,
Which? compared the cost of borrowing £100 for 30 days and
found that some high street banks’ unarranged overdraft
charges were as much as seven and a half times higher than
the maximum charge of £24 on a payday loan for the same
period. And because bank overdraft charges apply to monthly
billing periods, not the number of days money is borrowed
for, consumers who need £100 could pay up to £180 in fees
if they borrow over two calendar months from their high
street bank in the form of an unarranged overdraft.
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(Ashfield)
(Lab)
A constituent of mine was made redundant and wanted to get
back on his feet, so he set up a small business—a soft play
area for kids, which was essentially a cash business. For
every direct debit he paid, he had to pay 40p. For every
automated debit and every internet payment, he had to pay
40p. Every time a payment was made to his account, the
charge was 22p, and for every £100 paid to his account, he
was charged 66p. Those are obscene amounts for what is
essentially a cash business. I thank my hon. Friend for
allowing me to put that on the record.
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I thank my hon. Friend for speaking on behalf of her
constituent. We have all experienced people in our patches
being ripped off by banks. Frankly, that is not what people
expect. They expect to be able to trust their high street
bank to give them a good deal and treat them fairly, yet in
my hon. Friend’s constituent’s case, that just is not
happening.
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(Bolton South East)
(Lab)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this excellent
debate. She talked about the Which? report. She will be
aware that NatWest customers face fees of £180 for
exceeding their limit by £100 for 30 days, and that Lloyds
and Santander demand £160. That is completely uncalled for.
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Mrs (in the Chair)
Order. I remind Members that interventions need to be very
short and punchy, particularly when we have only half an
hour.
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right. We have a situation
where people can be charged £5 or more per day by many high
street banks for going just a few pence overdrawn. Those
charges rack up very quickly. The issue is that they are
totally disproportionate to the offence. Going just a few
pence over an overdraft limit in one month could mean £100
of charges, and as she says, the charge for doing so over
two calendar months is potentially £180.
It is simply not acceptable that banks are making large
profits at the expense of pushing the most financially
vulnerable people deeper into debt spirals. My hon. Friend
the Member for Ashfield gave one example, and StepChange
has told me about two other cases. The first is of a
42-year-old man who racked up overdraft charges after
losing his job. Interest on his overdraft and persistent
charges for going over his limit meant that on average, £80
a month was added to his debt. Over a year, his overdraft
debt increased by more than £1,000 because of interest and
unauthorised overdraft charges. The second case is of a
38-year-old woman who faced spiralling overdraft debt after
getting divorced. The increased burden of managing
financial commitments on her own meant that she slipped
into an unplanned overdraft by £90. That led to a cycle in
which she was constantly in and out of an unarranged
overdraft, and her overdraft debt increased to £1,000 due
to interest and charges.
Those people, like so many others, were already in
difficulty and trying to manage their debt from day to day.
The banks should have a responsibility to help them manage
their finances and help them out of their cycle of debt
rather than sending them deeper into crisis with
extortionate charges. The banks know that those customers
are financially vulnerable and struggling, yet they do
nothing to help—in fact, they do the exact opposite by
making it harder for them to get a grip of their finances.
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(Islwyn)
(Lab/Co-op)
I thank my hon. Friend for securing this timely debate.
Does she agree that it is sometimes in the banks’ interest
to allow customers to run massive overdrafts so that they
can push them on to even higher personal loans and other
products, which they might not need and might not be right
for them in the circumstances?
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I agree. What really worries me is that most of the £1
billion that is made every year from unauthorised charges
is made on the backs of those who are most financially
vulnerable. It is a bitter irony that it is now a better
deal for some people who need short-term credit to go to a
payday lender rather than their high street bank. Most of
us regard banks as more reputable and fairer to customers,
yet for many people that is just not the case.
Huge progress has been made on the charges faced by people
who access finance through payday lenders, as my hon.
Friend the Member for Makerfield (Yvonne Fovargue)
mentioned, with the introduction of a cap following great
work by my hon. Friend the Member for Walthamstow (Stella
Creasy), so why are banks still allowed to get away with
these unfair practices? There was some hope last year that
this problem would be addressed when the Competition and
Markets Authority undertook a review of the retail banking
market. The CMA recognised the issue and the inquiry’s
chair subsequently told the Treasury Committee that
unauthorised overdrafts are
“the biggest single problem in the personal banking
market”.
The CMA published its review into retail banking on 9
August, but frankly its conclusions and proposals were a
missed opportunity. It found that overdraft users make up
almost half of those with personal current accounts and
that many find it hard to keep on top of their arranged or
unarranged overdrafts. It acknowledged that failing to do
so can be costly, since overdraft users can accumulate high
costs from the complicated mix of interest, fees and
charges.
The review goes on to say that overdraft users, like other
personal current account customers, have very low switching
rates, which is particularly striking given that they often
have the most to gain from switching. One reason for that
is that overdraft users can be uncertain about whether they
will be able to obtain an overdraft facility from a
different bank or when such a facility would be made
available to them and are therefore worried about moving
accounts,. Anyway, none of the major high street banks has
a great offer for customers who are financially vulnerable.
When it came to remedies, the CMA’s proposals, quite
frankly, fell well short of the mark. Some measures will go
some way to addressing problems for some people, but not
for those who most need support. One proposal says that
customers need to be given clear notice when they are going
overdrawn and that banks will be required to notify
customers when they are going into an unarranged overdraft.
Customers also need to be given the opportunity to avoid
incurring charges, and the alerts that banks will be
required to provide will inform them of a grace period
during which they have an opportunity to avoid charges by
paying more money into their account.
Critically, the CMA fell short of proposing an
independently set maximum cap on the charges on overdrafts,
as we have with payday loans. Instead, the report said that
banks will be required to set their own ceilings on their
unarranged overdraft charges in the form of a monthly
maximum charge. However, most banks already have that. The
problem is not that banks do not have a maximum charge—they
do, and it might be £5 a day or £90 a month—but that the
maximum charge is much too high.
The major four high street banks, which make up 77% of the
current account market, already set their own caps on
charges, and those charges can be up to £100 a month. The
CMA’s proposals represent little more than business as
usual for those banks. Competition in this section of the
market is weak, and in the past few years it has got weaker
still with the merger of many of our high street banks.
Heavy unarranged overdraft users are the least likely to
switch banks accounts. Banks make more than £1 billion from
unarranged overdraft charges and, given the substantial
revenues they generate, there is little financial incentive
to lower existing charges.
Ultimately, the proposals in the CMA report might take
small steps towards helping some, but for the majority of
people who are already struggling and do not have the means
to prevent unauthorised overdrafts even if they are alerted
to them, they will do little, if anything, to help. The
monthly maximum cap as proposed by the CMA will likely do
nothing to stop the deepening of a person’s debt crisis,
with punitive and disproportionate charges.
I do not want to deny the banks the right to charge for the
services they provide, but I do want some fairness and
proportionality. It is not fair to charge £5 a day or £90 a
month for being a few pence over an overdraft limit, and it
is not fair to whack charges on customers who are
struggling with debt, in the knowledge that the charges
will make their problems worse, not better. Banks need to
take some responsibility for their customers.
As the Competition and Markets Authority admitted at a
meeting of the Treasury Committee, the measures proposed in
the report are geared at everybody and not in particular
those who are financially vulnerable, for whom no direct
action is proposed. When I asked whether the banks were
taking advantage of financially vulnerable customers, it
conceded that those customers who are least likely to
switch are a “captive audience” for the banks and their
excessive charges.
Ultimately, the Competition and Markets Authority report
was a huge opportunity finally to put an end to what it
calls “uncomfortably high” charges and to address what it
said was the
“biggest single problem in the personal banking market”.
However, the opportunity was squandered. In effect, it
passed the buck by asking the Financial Conduct Authority
to respond to the recommendations. Peter Vicary-Smith, the
chief executive of Which?, said to the Treasury Committee
that the Competition and Markets Authority had left the
heavy lifting and the difficult decisions for the Financial
Conduct Authority to make. In response to that
buck-passing, the new chief executive of the Financial
Conduct Authority, Andrew Bailey, has made the welcome
decision to include this issue in its ongoing review of
high-cost short-term credit, which will report later this
year.
The Financial Conduct Authority needs to do more to tackle
the detriment caused by persistent overdraft use. I have
been pleased by the focus that the FCA has placed on this
issue so far, picking up where unfortunately the CMA left
off. StepChange Debt Charity says that the review
“should include looking at what more can be done by lenders
to support people who are trapped in an overdraft cycle and
give them better and more affordable ways of paying back
their debts.”
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Does my hon. Friend consider that what the banks are doing
is insidious, bearing in mind that they and the Government
can borrow at very low rates of interest?
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My hon. Friend is right. The bank rate is so low and banks
are being given access to money at such low rates from the
Bank of England. The problem is, they are not passing that
on to their customers, and certainly not to those who most
need it. The banks should be doing much more to ensure that
those low interest rates are passed on, because that would
give the whole economy a boost as well as helping those
people who most need it.
I have been calling on and will continue to urge the
Financial Conduct Authority to look at setting a cap for
banks on unauthorised overdrafts as has already been done
for payday lenders. It must look at such lending by banks
in exactly the same way and not shy away from setting a cap
for banks, too.
I also urge the Government to take action, because while
the Financial Conduct Authority undertakes its review every
single day more financially vulnerable customers are being
exploited and more and more are being pushed further into a
cycle of debt. That is simply not acceptable. The
justification for a cap in these markets has been made with
the introduction of a cap in the payday lending market, and
those are two different sources for the same short-term
credit for people who need it immediately. They can either
go to a payday lender or go into an unarranged overdraft.
Whichever option they decide on to meet their short-term
needs, they should not be exploited. The Government
recognised that for payday lending and now need to
recognise that on unarranged overdraft charges.
Frankly, it is a disgrace that the banks are charging more
than payday lenders for short-term lending and getting away
with it, so the Government should take action. That is why
I am calling on the Minister and the Government to
legislate for a cap on overdraft fees and charges, as they
have already done for payday lending through the Financial
Services (Banking Reform) Act 2013. That would allow the
FCA to implement such a cap without delay and without the
risk of the banks taking the matter to the courts.
It is not right that the banks are making huge profits at
the expense of the most vulnerable. Anything less than an
independently set cap on overdraft charges will not be
enough. I urge the Minister and the Government to act now,
and I ask that as a first step the Minister will agree to
meet me and representatives of Which? and StepChange to
discuss this issue further so that we can ensure that all
customers are afforded the protection they deserve.
11.18 am
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The Economic Secretary to the Treasury (Simon Kirby)
What a pleasure it is to serve under your chairmanship, Mrs
Gillan. I thank the hon. Member for Leeds West (Rachel
Reeves) for securing this important debate on an issue that
we share a keen interest in. I am here to listen and,
hopefully, to be helpful.
It is clear that we all share a commitment to ensuring that
people across our society can rely on the financial services
that they need to manage their money effectively, securely
and confidently. We want an economy that works for everyone.
For most people, the bedrock of that is a transactional bank
account that enables them to manage their personal finances
on a day-to-day basis. Access to credit, including the use of
an overdraft facility, is an important part of that.
For that reason, the Government are committed to doing two
things. First, we will support and encourage competition
among financial services providers, not only so that people
have more choice over who they bank with, but because we know
that more competition inevitably means better options on
offer for customers, who can then vote with their feet.
Secondly, we want to make sure that British customers are
supported in the important financial decisions they make.
The hon. Members who have spoken have expressed the same
aims, and I want to discuss the key issues that have been
raised. I thank the hon. Members for Ashfield (Gloria De
Piero), for Makerfield (Yvonne Fovargue), for Bolton South
East (Yasmin Qureshi) and for Islwyn (Chris Evans) for making
some thoughtful points, sharing their constituents’ stories
and making some more general observations. I am sure that the
FCA, which is reviewing high-cost credit, will listen
carefully to the debate.
The hon. Member for Leeds West rightly discussed the
Competition and Markets Authority. A key question is how to
ensure that there is competition. That is why we set up the
CMA in the first place as a single stronger and independent
competition regulator. It is the CMA’s role to review the
market, assess how effectively competition is working and,
where appropriate, propose remedies to address any issues.
Hon. Members have referred to the CMA’s retail banking market
investigation, which was published last summer. I am aware of
the variety of opinions on that. It represented a thorough
analysis of how competition is working in retail banking,
including the role of both unarranged and arranged
overdrafts.
The CMA concluded that the retail banking market is not
working well for overdraft users. To tackle that, it is
imposing remedies to improve overdraft transparency,
including setting a monthly maximum charge for unarranged
overdraft charges. It also looked closely at whether a hard
cap on overdraft fees was necessary on competition grounds,
and reached the conclusion that it was not. However, as hon.
Members may know, it also recommended that the FCA should
assess the ongoing effectiveness of the monthly maximum
charge and consider whether other measures, including the
introduction of rules, could be taken to enhance its
effectiveness further.
The hon. Members for Leeds West and for Makerfield mentioned
the action of the Financial Conduct Authority. It is true
that the FCA has an important role to play in relation to
overdrafts. It is worth pointing out, of course, that it has
a much broader set of statutory objectives in relation to
financial services, duties, powers and tools than the CMA. It
has the power to cap the cost of all forms of consumer credit
if that is deemed necessary and proportionate to tackle risks
to consumers.
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I thank the Minister for his response to the substantive
points that I and my hon. Friends have made. Does he think it
is inconsistent that the Government have set a monthly
maximum charge for payday lenders, but not for high street
banks in relation to unarranged overdraft charges? If he
does, is it time for the Government to act by setting a
monthly maximum charge for unarranged overdrafts as well?
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I understand the point that the hon. Lady is making. What I
think is appropriate is for the Government to listen
carefully to what the FCA comes up with later in the year,
and to act in consumers’ best interests. I am sure we both
agree on that. There is clearly an inconsistency, otherwise
we would not be having this debate.
The Government welcome the fact that the FCA is looking
closely at what action might be necessary on overdrafts,
considering the twin objectives of enhancing competition and
protecting customers. That is why, in the light of the CMA’s
recommendations last November, the FCA launched a
consultation on high-cost credit, including high-cost,
short-term credit—payday loans—and overdrafts. The FCA’s call
for contributions remains open for another week—until next
Wednesday, 15 February. I encourage those watching or
listening to the debate, or reading it afterwards, to
contribute to that, so that the FCA will be fully informed of
the variety of opinion.
Today’s debate is timely, in view of that. It has—and I thank
the hon. Member for Leeds West for this—attracted quite a lot
of press interest; the subject is obviously of interest out
in the real world. I am certain that hon. Members’ views will
be heard clearly.
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I get the idea that the Minister is wrapping up. At the end
of my speech, I asked whether he would meet me and
representatives of Which? and StepChange. I hope that he will
accept that invitation and that the meeting can be arranged
soon.
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I am not quite ready to wrap up yet; I have a few things to
say that I am sure the hon. Lady will be pleased to hear. I
should be delighted to meet her and representatives of Which?
at an appropriate point—the most constructive time, when we
can make the most difference. Obviously, while the FCA is
considering the matter and the consultation is still open,
the appropriate time may not be next week, but I should be
delighted to work with her to come up with a solution that
benefits everyone.
I think it is safe to say that the Government will be working
alongside the FCA to understand the issues in the market. We
will continue to do so, to ensure that it has all the
appropriate tools at its disposal to take action where
problems are identified. We have heard about some of the
issues that people face when taking on overdrafts or other
forms of high-cost credit. I can reassure hon. Members that
the Government will closely monitor the work of the FCA in
looking at that area. I am sure that the views expressed by
hon. Members this morning will be taken into consideration as
the regulator carries out its work.
We in the Government will also continue our efforts,
complementing the work of the FCA. We have taken steps to
encourage competition, to support credit unions and to
improve financial education. The Government will, through
that comprehensive approach, continue to take steps to make
sure that British customers have quality choices, good
information and strong protection.
It may be helpful if I say, in closing, that the CMA is not
the final word in competition. There are important areas
outside the scope of its work and the Government will keep a
keen eye on the entire area. The Government will take the
necessary action to ensure that our banking sector is not
only the most competitive and innovative in the world, but
fair.
Question put and agreed to.
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