Low-Cost housing 9.30 am John Penrose (Weston-super-Mare)
(Con) I beg to move, That this House has considered
low cost housing. It is good to have you looking after us
this morning, Mrs Gillan. It is also good to see the departmental
Whip in her place—she is a fully-fledged Minister in her own
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Low-Cost housing
9.30 am
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(Weston-super-Mare)
(Con)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered low cost housing.
It is good to have you looking after us this morning, Mrs
Gillan. It is also good to see the departmental Whip in her
place—she is a fully-fledged Minister in her own right
anyway. As a former Whip, I feel it is always good to see a
Whip temporarily released from the office’s vow of omerta
and allowed to show their knowledge of the area they cover
for the Whips Office.
Housing, whether rent or mortgage payments, is probably the
single biggest monthly bill that most of us face and
because we have not, as a country, built enough new houses
for decades, no matter who has been in Government, the
costs have been getting steadily steeper. The result is
less living space, longer commutes, less cash left over at
the end of each month for other things and, overall, a
lower quality of life for all of us. We need to increase
the number of new homes that are built and yesterday’s
welcome White Paper contains some important steps towards
that goal. Most important, from my point of view, were the
ideas to make it easier to build up, not out, in urban
areas—greater housing density, in the jargon.
Anyone walking around most British town centres, passing
train stations or high street shops, should look upwards.
The chances are that they will mostly see fresh
air—skyline. British towns and cities are some of the most
low-rise in Europe, which seems bonkers for a country that
is also one of the most crowded. Much of this is
self-inflicted. For many Brits taller buildings create
instant mental images of 1960s brutalist concrete tower
blocks on sink estates—the backdrops for gritty dramas of
social decay from left-wing film auteurs. This mental trope
has had some real-world consequences for the country too
because it means that we are, as a society, instinctively
resistant to anyone who proposes building upwards. So let
me sing a fierce anthem of praise for taller buildings—not
necessarily brutalist tower blocks, although they have
their admirers, but for elegant, well-proportioned
apartment blocks and terraces where the design stands the
test of time.
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Mr (East
Londonderry) (DUP)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way and apologise for
interrupting him as he gets to the chorus of his eloquent
speech. He talks about the need to build upwards. Does he
agree—he has alluded somewhat to the ’60s-style
connotations that building upwards has for many people—that
we need to have planning forethought in terms of what
buildings will be like in 20 or 30 years’ time so that we
do not repeat the mistakes of the 1950s and 1960s?
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That is absolutely right. There are some people who, from a
purely aesthetic point of view, love brutalist concrete
architecture and rather more who dislike it a lot. For most
of the rest of us, one of the crucial tests is not merely
the aesthetics but whether this stuff remains liveable, not
only in the first few years after it is built but over many
generations. Another is whether it is therefore acceptable
to the rest of the community. It is not just a question of
what somewhere is like to live in as a location; it also
has an impact on other people as they walk past.
As the hon. Gentleman said, it depends on how the design
stands the test of time. There are places such as four or
five-storey Regency terraces and Victorian town houses,
which people still want to live in and walk past a century
or two after they were built, or their slightly taller and
more modern equivalents, which provide trendy new city
centre living space for young professionals or
well-designed retirement homes for older folk. We do not
need to be scared of these buildings. One of the densest
urban areas in Britain is Kensington and Chelsea, which is
hardly a byword for inner-city decay. Elegant continental
cities such as Paris and Madrid are far denser than almost
anywhere in Britain too.
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Dr (Ealing Central and Acton)
(Lab)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way; he is
giving a very powerful speech so I am loth to interrupt
him. He mentioned the international comparisons and
Kensington and Chelsea, but I think he is missing the
suburbs. I represent a suburban seat. He said that housing
is the single biggest bill, but it is also the single
biggest issue in surgeries. I had a candidate stand against
me as a “no to tall buildings” person. His slogan was, “We
want to be living in Acton, not in Manhattan.” Has the hon.
Gentleman had similar experiences as a constituency MP?
People just do not like these buildings; they crowd out
light and are not in keeping with the suburban landscape.
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Mrs (in the Chair)
Order. May I remind Members that interventions are supposed
to be short and not too discursive?
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The hon. Lady just gave a classic example of this
instinctive British fear. I have discovered that in general
if people see a beautiful building that is well-designed
and moderately, but not too enormously, tall—Manhattan
being an example of where things are incredibly tall—many
of those concerns are greatly reduced. The taller something
is the more impact it has on everybody else for miles and
miles around and therefore the greater care we have to
take. There is a middle ground that I will talk about in a
minute, which will provide us with a great deal of building
and housing opportunity to reduce the cost of housing
without having to make everywhere look like Manhattan, if I
can put it that way.
The hon. Lady’s intervention leads me to say that we need
to throw off these mental shackles—these 50-year-old
emotional architectural scars—and instead count the
blessings of building up, not out.
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(Strangford) (DUP)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for bringing this important
issue of how we better utilise our space for debate. He
will know—I am sure this is the case in his constituency,
as it is in mine—that people have the opportunity to live
above shops. That is a special scheme brought in by local
councils and local departments and is a way of utilising
the space that is there. Does he agree that that is one
method for addressing the issue of low-cost housing?
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That is a very good example—a classic example—of the kind
of thing we need to look at. Many British high streets are
two storeys, or perhaps three storeys, tall. Not only are
those upper storeys lightly used, and in some cases unused,
but there are two or three further storeys of fresh air
above them that could be developed into housing as well.
The crucial point that was made yesterday in the White
Paper, but has been more broadly accepted for years before,
is that the only way to bring down the overall cost of
housing in this country is by increasing the supply. We
have to make sure that more of this stuff is built and
finding those right, convenient locations near social and
physical infrastructure is crucial. I will expand on that
point a little more in a minute, but the hon. Gentleman has
touched on a particularly good example.
I was about to number the blessings of building up, not out
and I shall now carry on doing so. First, it will attract
much-needed new investment to regenerate and save tired or
rundown town and city centres bringing fresh life, a
broader mix of businesses and longer trading hours to high
streets—as the hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon)
mentioned—that are suffering under the twin attack of
out-of-town shopping centres and online retailers.
Secondly, building up, not out could help break the
stranglehold of large house building firms over the number
of new homes that are built. Those firms tend to focus on
larger sites, whether greenfield or in towns, and rarely
pick up smaller plots where an individual bungalow or
two-storey shop could be redeveloped into four or even
eight smart new apartments on the same site. By releasing
lots of overlooked smaller urban plots we can create a
fast-growing cadre of insurgent new developers, adding
much-needed new capacity and competition to the sector and
its supply chains and speeding up the too comfortable,
cosily slow rate at which the big firms currently convert
their land banks and planning permissions into completed
homes.
Thirdly, building up, not out will reduce urban sprawl by
cutting the pressure from builders to concrete over green
fields and green belts at the edges of towns and villages
across the country. Given the strain and pressure on our
green spaces they should be our last building resort, not
our first. Fourthly, it will cut commuting by allowing
people to live closer to work, shops and other community
hubs from libraries to GP surgeries. The reductions in
emissions, and the effects on both our quality of life and
the wider environment, will be very significant indeed.
Finally, building up, not out would release huge numbers of
new urban house building sites to solve the housing
shortage. As the Secretary of State said yesterday in his
new White Paper, the only way to make homes more affordable
for everybody is to build a lot more of them. Whether we
are talking about renting or buying, the basic laws of
price and demand mean that the prices will never stabilise,
much less fall, unless the supply of housing increases
dramatically.
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(Central Suffolk and
North Ipswich) (Con)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing the debate. He is
making very good points, and I agree with him about the
Government’s welcome White Paper yesterday on improving the
housing supply. Does he agree that one of the challenges
can sometimes be the fairly entrenched, long-held concerns
that people raise locally about higher properties?
Incentives are needed in the system to encourage local
authorities to give planning consents if we are going to
overcome some of the problems.
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I agree with my hon. Friend for two reasons. When taller
buildings excite the kind of Manhattan-ish concerns that we
just heard about from the hon. Member for Ealing Central
and Acton (Dr Huq), there clearly has to be careful
consideration and community buy-in, because they have such
a profound, wide-scale impact on local views and local
infrastructure. Smaller and more modest proposals—I will
talk about those in more detail in a minute—are much more
absorbable and go much more with the grain of local things,
so they may well not need a huge amount of extra
permissions and incentives, beyond the fact that they
provide an opportunity for individual landowners to make a
contribution and perhaps to increase the value of their
particular site. I will expand on that, and perhaps if my
hon. Friend the Member for Central Suffolk and North
Ipswich (Dr Poulter) is not completely convinced, he will
intervene later.
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(Upper Bann)
(DUP)
I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on obtaining the debate.
I am glad to hear that he is talking about building up
rather than out, given that in the past we have built on
the green belt, destroying our environment. Does he agree
that no matter what form of building there is, it is vital
that the infrastructure is correct, because we have faced
major problems in our cities from flooding over the past
few years?
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I absolutely agree. One advantage of building up rather
than out in existing urban environments is that an awful
lot of infrastructure is in place anyway. Less brand-new
infrastructure needs to be constructed as a result. Other
problems come from building in urban environments—for
example, existing infrastructure may be put under strain
and need to be expanded in some way—but flood defences are
a good example of where the effects are perfectly scalable.
When a flood defence wall has been built, an awful lot more
can be built behind it. The flood defence wall does not
need to be upgraded just because more has been built behind
it, even though it may need to be upgraded when it wears
out in 50 years’ time. I thank the hon. Gentleman for that
very good example.
As I was saying, prices will never stabilise, still less
fall, unless the supply of housing increases dramatically.
Cheaper homes are one of the cheapest, simplest, most
effective ways of raising living standards for everyone
and, by making our available cash go further, of improving
the country’s economic productivity.
In the 1970s and ’80s, our towns and cities were places
without an economic purpose. Their industrial manufacturing
centres were dead, social problems multiplied as jobs dried
up and people left in droves. But now, urban living in
towns and cities is fashionable again, because, even in our
highly connected, distance-defying online world, it turns
out that there is huge value in people clustering together.
Ideas flow more freely; skills and knowledge too. Firms in
similar sectors create clusters that feed off their
neighbours’ energy, hire each other’s staff and drive each
other on. Building up, not out helps those things to happen
more easily, so more wealth can be created. It is greener
and cheaper, and it makes us richer and improves our
quality of life, so clearly, the idea’s time has come.
To their eternal credit, I think the Government get that.
The new White Paper has much to say about developing
smaller sites of half a hectare or less, and subdividing
large sites so that smaller developers can get in on the
act as well. Local development orders and area-wide design
codes, which streamline planning permission if people want
to build particular pre-approved types or styles of
property in a specified area, make a strong showing too.
There is a range of new permitted development rights, which
allow everyone from hospitals to brownfield site owners to
build without all the red tape, heartache and uncertainty
of getting planning permission.
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Dr Huq
From a design point of view, I completely get the hon.
Gentleman’s argument, but how would he inject
affordability? The rate in London has been at up to 80% of
market rates, and units in high-rise buildings in my
constituency seem to be bought off-plan by people at
property fairs in Singapore and by Russian oligarchs—the
lights are always off—so how would he make that link and
build affordability in?
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The hon. Lady tempts me into a slightly wider area of
discussion than the one I was focusing on. However, my
broad point at least is that we will not be able to make
all housing more affordable, whether that is for those on
lower or middle incomes, unless we dramatically increase
the supply of new homes of whatever tenure—whether we are
talking about homes for rent or for buying. Only by doing
that over the longer term will we manage to reduce the cost
of housing for everybody at all income levels. The hon.
Lady might like to propose some additional measures and, if
so, I am sure that she will make some remarks later to
turbo-charge some other opportunities for those on lower
incomes as well. However, as a starting point and a
fundamental, we are kidding ourselves if we think we can
get away without increasing the overall level of new homes
that are being created in the first place.
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(Kilmarnock and Loudoun)
(SNP)
I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on securing the debate.
One aspect concerns me slightly about the London model: is
there not a risk that people being allowed to build upwards
will lead to the creation of single town houses that have
become much larger, therefore creating half-a-million-pound
houses rather than low-cost housing, which is the thrust of
the argument?
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If demand is unsatisfied in any part of the housing
market—whether in the top or bottom end—that will spill
across. If people are looking for a particular size of
house—if their family is growing and they need a
three-bedroom house as opposed to a two-bedroom house—and
they cannot find one, the demand will spill over into other
areas of the housing market. Demand will drive up price, no
matter what, and that will knock on through to other areas
of the housing market. The hon. Gentleman is right that
there are hotspots in the housing market—geographically and
in terms of kinds and sizes of house and tenures—where this
problem is particularly acute, but we cannot afford to be
that choosy. We need to build an awful lot more of all
kinds of houses if we are to reduce prices. Some of the
hotspots may well apply to people on lower incomes and, at
that point, we should be doing something about it, but that
should not be to the exclusion of everything else,
otherwise the knock-on effects will still be felt
throughout the tenure range.
With what I have said in mind, I would like to take up the
offer in the White Paper and make a formal submission to
the consultation that the Minister launched yesterday. I
want to make a concrete proposal—please forgive the pun—for
a new permitted development right to add to the suite that
the Government suggested. The right would allow small-scale
additions to town and city centre properties when the final
result is still below the treeline or other buildings in
the same block. Converting existing shops or offices would
still require planning permission, but building new
apartments within those height limits above them, or above
existing housing, would not. It would not apply to
substantial new buildings or major developments, nor to
listed heritage buildings or conservation zones.
That measure is safe, sensible and proportionate and should
not scare anyone—certainly not those worried about
Manhattan-style buildings. It would offer a little piece of
freedom from the cold and clammy hand of bureaucracy: a
chance for every householder to help solve the nation’s
housing problems by extending the size, and value, of their
property by adding extra bedrooms or perhaps an entire
apartment on top of what is there already. It would provide
an opportunity for energy and ideas to have their head,
without being diverted, amended or discouraged by official
objections, rooted in the very British fear of any building
that is taller than two storeys high.
Without the measure, officialdom will be too slow to
change. They will not be forced to look upwards, and will
carry on thinking the same way as they have for the last 50
years. We need change immediately, not at some distant
future time. Without a shock—a stimulus—and some creative
development yeast, the White Paper’s dough will never rise.
Many valuable town and city centre sites will continue to
be ignored.
The new permitted development right could be that
stimulus—that little piece of freedom. It could be a
creative spark that lights the blue touch paper of
Britain’s stodgy, slow-paced, cosily comfortable housing
market so that it takes off like a rocket. It would improve
our economy and our quality of life, make our homes more
affordable and reduce development pressure on greenfield
and green belt sites. I hope the Minister will agree.
9.50 am
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(Kilmarnock and Loudoun)
(SNP)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mrs
Gillan. As a Back Bencher, it is certainly unusual for me
to be second in the speaking order.
I congratulate the hon. Member for Weston-super-Mare (John
Penrose) on securing the debate. He has campaigned on this
issue and raised it in Parliament before, so it is clearly
something that he is keen to see progress. I agree in
principle with much of what he said about ensuring vibrancy
in main streets at night. If that can be done by building
upwards above shops, that is a good thing, but in the long
run we really need to be careful. I have already touched on
my concerns that the proposal might open the door for the
construction of large town houses without delivering
low-cost housing, which is the thrust of this debate. I am
also slightly concerned that there may be a rush for too
many people to do it. We need to ensure that the right
controls are in place, including building standards and
building controls, and that the processes can be inspected.
Clearly some low-rise buildings were only ever designed to
be low-rise buildings, even though they may be adjacent to
higher buildings.
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Just to clarify, nothing in the proposals that I have made
today would affect building control or building
regulations. Clearly we would need all the usual checks to
ensure that buildings will stay up and be safe once they
have been constructed.
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I fully accept that. I know that is the premise; I am just
saying that we need to ensure that the resources are there
to keep an eye on things. We have heard stories about
properties in London getting built in the rear of gardens
and so on, which is done without planning consent or
building standards consent. It is a question of ensuring
that procedures are properly followed. Foundations need to
be checked and may need to be strengthened, and buildings
that are structurally tied to adjoining buildings need
proper structural design. I recognise the hon. Gentleman’s
good point about controls, listed buildings and exemptions,
and I agree that a controlled method of allowing building
up can work.
Let me return to low-cost housing, which is the title of
this debate. We need to do more to make low-cost housing
available. I welcome the UK Government’s White Paper, but
neither I nor my party thinks it goes far enough. As was
raised yesterday, the elephant in the room for low-cost
housing is the right-to-buy model. In the long run, the
extended right-to-buy model for social housing will eat
into the availability of low-cost housing. Subsidies from
the public sector to allow people to buy properties use
money that could otherwise be going directly into
stimulating housing growth or be put towards brownfield
development. Members have raised concerns about building
outwards and eating into the green belt. Clearly brownfield
regeneration is a good thing, especially in the urban
environment. The money being taken out of the system for
right to buy could be put to better use, either directly
for building new social housing or for stimulating new
brownfield development.
By ending right to buy, the Scottish Government have
protected 15,500 properties that would otherwise have been
sold from stock. Quite often, houses that are sold end up
in the buy-to-let market, which pushes rents up because
social rents are always cheaper than private rents, and
that has an impact on the housing benefit bill. Again, that
means more money from the public purse that could otherwise
be going towards housing.
The Scottish Government are making a record investment in
council house building. I request that the UK Government
consider going back to that model and funding the
construction of public housing. Because there is no right
to buy for housing in Scotland, housing associations have
more confidence to build housing. They can also get
subsidies from the Scottish Government. The Scottish
Government delivered 30,000 affordable homes in the last
Parliament and have a target of 50,000 for this Parliament.
I recognise that the White Paper targets affordable homes,
but the argument goes full circle: for the UK Government to
deliver affordable homes, they need to put public money to
the best possible use, not subsidise the purchase of
properties for people who already have one and who do not
need a discount to become a homeowner. I know that a lot of
people have aspirations to become homeowners, but the No. 1
thing is to ensure that there are enough homes for
everybody. We can look to further drive home ownership once
there are enough homes for everybody, but once that happens
the market will even out and we will not see the continued
push on prices.
The hon. Gentleman said that there would be controls on
listed buildings. My other concern is that we would need
tight controls on the aesthetics of buildings to ensure
that they blended in with the surrounding environment.
Where there are permitted development rights rather than
planning controls, there still need to be tight guidelines.
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May I press the hon. Gentleman a little on that point? I
take his point with respect to areas that have a
homogeneous architectural style and that therefore have
conservation areas of one kind or another, but not areas
that have no such homogeneous style and no conservation
control or anything like it. Most British cities are a
hotch-potch of things built over several centuries, and
that is fine. I am concerned that he is trying to create a
sort of clammy bureaucratic control where historically
there has been none and everyone has been happy with the
outcome.
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I take the hon. Gentleman’s point. Perhaps, as always, the
truth is somewhere in the middle. However, I would have
real concerns if people were just able to throw up these
buildings. There could be real issues with the materials
used, with long-term maintenance and with the aesthetics of
buildings. For instance, if people use the wrong materials
for wood fascias and do not maintain them, they become a
real eyesore in the long run. I am just putting that out
there; I think those issues should be considered within
permitted development rights. Local areas might not have a
completely homogeneous style; as he says, cities may have
developed as a hotch-potch, but that is not always an
attractive look, and if we do not watch out, it can become
even less attractive. Clearly that is not the desire behind
the hon. Gentleman’s proposal, but I conclude by
congratulating him on advancing it.
9.58 am
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(Brentford and
Isleworth) (Lab)
It is an honour to serve under you again, Ms Gillan. I
thank the hon. Member for Weston-super-Mare (John Penrose)
for securing the debate.
I wondered whether there had been a mix-up by the Chairman
of Ways and Means, who decides on these debates, but
knowing him and understanding the process as I now do, I
know that that is not possible. Hon. Members may have
attended this debate and people may have watched it in
anticipation of a debate on low-cost housing, perhaps
hoping to hear some more detail about the White Paper that
the Government released yesterday or some more meat put on
the bones of the essential topic of low-cost housing.
Instead, this debate has been about a small proposal to
tweak the planning system.
I will address the proposal from the hon. Member for
Weston-super-Mare in a moment, but first I will address
low-cost housing, which is the topic of the debate and is
what I expected to be speaking on. Of course the overall
supply of housing—which the hon. Gentleman states it is the
intention of his policy to address—is important, because we
have a shortage of housing in this country, as the
Secretary of State said yesterday. In a pure supply and
demand curve, one expects more supply to mean lower cost,
and the obverse—shortage of supply—means higher cost, which
is exactly what has happened in the open market; so housing
becomes more and more unaffordable for more and more
people.
That has happened in the last seven years. Under , the UK built fewer
homes than under any peacetime Prime Minister since 1923.
The number of home-owning households rose by a million
under the 1997 to 2010 Government, but it has fallen by
200,000 since 2010, and this shortage has meant that the
price of buying has risen and risen, putting homes out of
the reach of even well-paid young people. Members here
today may have watched “Newsnight” last night, in which
there were reasonably well-paid young professionals who
could not get on the housing ladder. In my constituency in
west London, working people earning reasonable salaries
cannot even afford to rent, and if they can just about pay
more than 50% of their income on rent, they have no money
left to save up for a deposit. The market is not delivering
affordable homes to rent or to buy, except in some
economically deprived areas, where there are more homes
than there are people who want to live in them.
In most of England, because house prices have risen, more
and more people need some kind of subsidised low-cost
housing. Since 2010, however, Government funding for all
types of affordable housing—there were eight definitions of
affordable housing in the White Paper—has been withdrawn,
except for one, which is for first-time buyers. The level
of new affordable house building has still managed to hit a
24-year low. The number of shared ownership homes and other
low-cost home ownership homes being built annually has
fallen by 66% since 2010, to just 7,540 homes a year,
meaning that 34,170 fewer affordable homes have been built
since 2010 than in the last six years of the last Labour
Government. The hon. Member for Kilmarnock and Loudoun
(Alan Brown) clearly described the problems—and the
potential solutions—of delivering truly affordable low-cost
housing.
For social rented housing, official statistics shows that
the number of social rented homes that were started in
2009-10 was almost 40,000, but in 2015-16 the number of
social rented homes being delivered was less than 1,000—a
fall of 98% and the lowest figure since records began.
My right hon. Friend the Member for Wentworth and Dearne
(John Healey) said yesterday in the main Chamber that
private house builders, housing associations and councils
need to fire on all cylinders to build the homes that we
need, and councils need to be allowed to build homes again
to meet the needs of local people. At the moment, they are
not allowed to do that.
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Dr (Ealing Central and Acton)
(Lab)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend and constituency neighbour
for giving way. I agree with what she is saying, that this
“Pile ’em high, sell ’em cheap and leave it to market
forces” solution does not sound like it is enough. When it
is left to market forces, in a place such as Ealing, people
seem to use these high-rise homes that are going up as a
very expensive piggybank; they are not even living in them.
Obviously we need more social housing to counteract all
this.
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My hon. Friend and constituency neighbour is absolutely
right. I have experienced that in my own constituency. We
still have newly built homes that are never let, because
they are seen as nothing more than an investment, and many
of them are very high in price.
As I have said, the latest affordable housing statistics
have fallen to their lowest levels in 24 years. Of course I
welcome any credible initiatives to provide low-cost
housing, but where is the evidence that this well-meaning
initiative to extend permitted development rights, which
the hon. Member for Weston-super-Mare has discussed today,
will actually deliver low-cost housing?
Between February and April in 2016, the Government
consulted jointly with the Mayor of London on proposals to
deliver more homes in London by allowing a limited number
of additional storeys on existing buildings through a
permitted development right, local development orders or
development plan policies, which is exactly what the hon.
Gentleman is seeking. That was part of the Government’s
commitment to explore how more homes could be built on
brownfield land, in order to reduce the amount of pressure
on greenfield or metropolitan open land. The Government
summary of the responses that they received to that
proposal says:
“More than half of those were not supportive of the
proposal, with a one-size-fits-all permitted development
right approach considered unworkable. While it was noted
that it could support town centres and deliver more homes,
it was recognised that the complex prior approval that
would be required to protect neighbours and the character
and amenity of an area would result in a permitted
development right that is no less onerous than a planning
application.”
Specifically, a couple of the consultees—the Planning
Officers Society and Historic England—did not support the
proposals. I am well aware that the British Property
Federation welcomed them.
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I just wish to clarify something for the hon. Lady. I have
read the document she is quoting and learned of the
concerns surrounding the proposed permitted development
right, which has been consulted on already, but my proposal
is different. It starts from the same place, but is
designed to avoid the criticisms that were levelled, which
she has rightly pointed out. I have endeavoured to modify
my proposal in a way that will allow it to sidestep those
issues.
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for that clarification.
Nevertheless, with any consideration of extending permitted
development rights, there are always unintended
consequences. That is why the Planning Officers Society,
Historic England and other organisations did not see the
merit of, and therefore did not make the case for,
extending them. In fact, it was not only permitted
development rights that were considered, but other methods.
As I say, the British Property Federation welcomed the
proposal for an extension to permitted development rights,
but even the BPF said that
“it is unlikely to deliver a significant amount of new
homes”,
which, as the hon. Gentleman said in his speech, is one of
his key aims.
What are the reasons to retain the status quo, which is
what I am suggesting? Proposals to develop upwards can go
through the planning application process. What is wrong
with that? A planning application provides notification,
consultation, transparency and accountability, whereas
extending permitted development rights does not. If any
proposal to build up higher makes sense in a town or
village centre; if it works with neighbouring buildings; if
the space standards and design provide good quality housing
in which people will thrive, it should be granted planning
permission. However, to deny a community or a parish
council the ability to comment, to deny planning officers
the ability to negotiate improvements to a proposal, and to
deny locally elected councillors the opportunity to
determine the application would just open the gates to
unpopular, unwanted and possibly bad developments.
If a local council makes a bad planning decision—possibly
in the face of fierce local opposition to an
application—there is always the opportunity to appeal to
the impartial Planning Inspectorate. Nobody denies that
enabling more homes to be built in a town or village centre
is a good thing for the life and vibrancy of that place.
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Dr Poulter
I certainly agree with the hon. Lady’s sentiment. However,
is it not very difficult for the types of people my hon.
Friend the Member for Weston-super-Mare (John Penrose) has
spoken about today—people who want to carry out small
extensions or build small buildings—to bring the sorts of
planning appeals that she just talked about? Sometimes bad
decisions are made because around the time of elections,
planning issues can become very contentious in local
authorities.
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Having been a councillor myself for many, many years, I am
well aware of that pressure, which is why we have the
appeals system—it is why we have that check and balance.
Let us remember that one can only get away with refusing a
planning application if the refusal is made on good
planning grounds. Officers are there to advise councillors
and if councillors ignore officers, the application will go
to appeal and, if it is a good application that was refused
for the wrong reasons, the Planning Inspectorate will
overturn the refusal and the application will be granted.
The planning system is there for a reason. It is there to
protect communities and ensure good development. It ensures
that there are appropriate facilities, amenities, space
standards, parking provision and so on. When permitted
development rights are extended, a lot of that is lost. I
am sure that the hon. Member for Weston-super-Mare does not
want to see a load of high-rise buildings going up that do
not meet basic standards and do not provide a basic quality
of life for the people living in those dwellings and in
surrounding dwellings.
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I repeat that I am not proposing huge high-rise dwellings
at all; I am proposing things that can be built up to the
height of the local treeline, for example, which is four or
five storeys at the most. I gently say to the hon. Lady
that if the planning system works so bleedin’ brilliantly,
we would have four or five-storey developments in market
towns and seaside towns around the country, but we do not.
I doubt very strongly that that is because communities
everywhere have roundly decided that they cannot live with
anything taller than two storeys. I suspect that it is
because there is a chilling effect. People are being
discouraged from putting such applications in because of
officialdom knocking them back all the time.
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With the greatest respect to the hon. Gentleman, I believe
he was in the same meeting as me last week, where we talked
about converting empty space above flats into residential.
In that interesting and informative roundtable, we heard
that there is a whole host of barriers to converting empty
space above shops, and the same applies to the proposal to
increase heights. The planning system was not suggested as
the main barrier. There are other barriers, such as
structural ones, security ones, issues of funding and
whether it is worth the cost. Except in very high-price
property areas, such as those that my hon. Friend the
Member for Ealing Central and Acton (Dr Huq) and I
represent, it is just not worth landowners’ while to do it.
There is a range of barriers.
No one denies that enabling more homes in town centres is a
good thing for the life and vibrancy of those town centres.
I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment, but the hon.
Member for Weston-super-Mare could do better than blaming
the planning system for the lack of delivery. The planning
system can deliver what he wants now. He has brought no
evidence that this little tweak of the planning system will
deliver more housing, let alone more affordable housing. He
has made circumstantial links between more supply, of which
the proposal would provide a tiny amount, and a crashing
fall in housing prices. There is no evidence.
We have seen problems when permitted development rights are
extended, such as with the coalition Government’s policy,
which has now been enshrined permanently, of allowing
employment space to be converted into residential without
planning permission. In Hounslow—I represent half of the
borough—we have seen poor-quality housing, poor space
standards, inadequate parking and issues with everything
from refuse disposal to access. That policy is not
providing good-quality housing or affordable housing.
The other extension of permitted development rights that
was enacted under the coalition Government allowed
homeowners to extend the rear of their homes by 6 metres,
rather than the 3 metres it had been previously. Those
developments have a massive impact on the neighbours. That
is why we have to be careful about extending permitted
development rights, and the Opposition do not support such
extensions.
Building can be done at height with good design, but there
is no reason why that cannot be done through the normal,
transparent and accountable planning application process.
In the years I was a planning committee member—some of
those were as chair—we granted many applications for
increasing the height of buildings and homes or for
building new higher ones. We refused some terrible
applications. The system allows for that to happen. We have
a massive housing shortage in west London, but the prices
are high enough that it is worth the developers’ while. We
saw the applications; we approved the good ones and refused
the bad ones. The market in west London is doing exactly
what the hon. Gentleman desires.
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I thank the hon. Lady for giving way yet again. She is
being very generous and kind. I gently say to her that the
London economic microclimate is not typical of the rest of
Britain. I am rather reassured by some of the things she
has said about what is happening in parts of London and how
these things are being handled, but I do not think those
incentives, processes or habits of mind among councils and
council officials are broadly spread across the country.
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In which case, the hon. Gentleman is effectively admitting
that it is not the planning system that is the problem, but
the state of the property market and other barriers to
development. The market in west London is doing exactly
what he wants, and I suggest he looks elsewhere for the
cause of the problem and, therefore, for the solution.
The hon. Gentleman wants beautiful buildings; that is why a
planning system is needed. He is proposing a solution that
removes local oversight, but there is no evidence it will
work and it could create unintended consequences.
Furthermore, his proposal does not address the subject of
the debate: low-cost housing. I am almost inclined to
dissent when the Question is put at the end of the debate
as to whether we have considered low-cost housing, but I
will leave that for then.
10.16 am
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(Thurrock)
(Con)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mrs
Gillan. It is a great pleasure to respond to the debate
moved by my hon. Friend the Member for Weston-super-Mare
(John Penrose). He has been fortuitous in securing this
debate on low-cost housing the day after the White Paper
was published, but he is rather disadvantaged by the fact
that the Minister responsible is so busy selling the White
Paper that he has to put up with a reply from me, but I
will endeavour to answer the points he has raised.
The tone of the debate has frankly been a bit miserable, in
truth. My hon. Friend has come forward with a proposal to
expand the supply of housing. We all know that supply is
the biggest challenge in delivering low-cost housing.
Houses have become less and less affordable because we have
not been building enough houses, period. We need to look at
what we can do to unlock a bigger supply of houses, and
that is what the White Paper is all about. I could happily
trade statistics with Opposition Members, but the reality
is that we have not been building enough housing in this
country for decades. There are many reasons for that. Some
of them are to do with planning, public opinion, finance
and land prices, but what is clear is that our housing
market is broken, and I do not think we should be ruling
anything out in fixing it, because we have a real problem
in terms of fairness for everyone in society being able to
live in a decent home that they can afford. We in
Government and as politicians should be seeking to deliver
that.
That is where my hon. Friend has it in a nutshell, in
coming forward with a proposal that could unlock
substantially more housing. Listening to him and the
reaction to his remarks from Members highlighted a massive
cultural prejudice against building up, rather than
building out, and there is a reason for that, which he
alluded to in his remarks. We were very badly let down in
the ’60s. That was the zenith of building up, not out, but
we built buildings that were ugly and unpleasant, and they
became unpleasant places to live. That is in people’s minds
when they start thinking about high-rise housing and
development. I have it in my constituency. We are on the
border of London, so we have a substantial need for new
houses. We have a substantial amount of brownfield land and
green belt. Members will not be surprised to hear that we
get a lot more planning applications for housing on
green-belt sites, because we all know that it is cheaper to
build there. We are also on the river, and if there is one
place where high-rise developments would work, it is on the
river.
My hon. Friend the Member for Grantham and Stamford (Nick
Boles)—I think we were all impressed by his courage in
turning up for the vote yesterday—came to my constituency
when he was housing Minister. He did me no favours because
he described one of my riverfront housing developments as
pig ugly. It was a four-storey housing development on the
river, and people want to live on the river, but his point
was that if the planners had been a little more
adventurous, we could have built something higher and more
beautiful. When one visits places such as Greenwich in
south-east London, one can see that they have shown
imagination. They have opened up the river and created nice
places to live, so I very much welcome my hon. Friend’s
interest in this.
To give my hon. Friend the Member for Weston-super-Mare
some comfort, the White Paper sets out clearly the
importance of high-density brownfield development, which is
a part of his proposal. We propose changes to national
policy to make it clear that local plans and individual
development proposals should encourage building up where
acceptable. We also propose to make better use of public
land. The Department would welcome my hon. Friend’s
response to the White Paper so that we can take this
forward. It is incumbent on all of us, and it is very easy.
We all react to our postbags—Mr Grumpy always complains
about the planning application that is proposed—but we have
a role now, because this is such an important issue, to
sell what will really deliver more housing, so I encourage
my hon. Friend to make his submission as robust and as
forthright as he wishes.
The Government welcome the opportunity to discuss low-cost
housing in its wider sense. The hon. Member for Brentford
and Isleworth (Ruth Cadbury) made some excellent points,
but we need to recognise that the problem has been in the
making for decades and the issues are complex. We do not
say that the White Paper has all the answers or all the
solutions. There is no silver bullet. If there was, the
previous Labour Government would have delivered it, as
would we in the last Parliament. Let us get real here. This
is a serious problem, and unless we have a grown-up
discussion about it, we will not solve it and we will let
down future generations.
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Dr Huq
There is some stuff in the White Paper that was nicked out
of the playbook—we are pleased
to see that there will be a ban on letting fees—but it
could have been a little more aggressive on the “Use it or
lose it” idea. I apologise, Mrs Gillan; I should have said
my right hon. Friend the Member for Doncaster North (Edward
Miliband). In Ealing we have a site, which my 12-year-old
remembers as a building site for most of his life—it was a
cinema—that is going to be rebuilt for residential use, but
it has been land-banked for the best part of a decade. What
does the White Paper say about that and how can we be more
aggressive with developers who simply sit on land while the
value goes up?
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The hon. Lady has hit on a major structural problem that is
inhibiting the ability to supply. There are many examples
of what she talks about. Some developers are bringing
forward a supply of housing and others are sitting on the
land.
The White Paper on housing that we published yesterday
advocates shortening timescales for the implementation of
planning permissions where appropriate. That is very much
on our agenda. We are considering legislative changes to
simplify and speed up completion notices, which will
encourage developers to build out or face losing the site.
I am a big fan of naming and shaming. Transparency is an
effective tool. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Where we
have developers clearly engaging in predatory behaviour and
exploiting the marketplace, we should be prepared to name
and shame them. Every one of us in this room has a voice.
Where we see bad behaviour by developers, let us shout out
about it, because we have to deliver more houses. It is
that simple.
I trust that hon. Members have had the opportunity to
digest some of the housing White Paper, if not all of it,
and I hope that they will engage with the debate. I want to
make it incredibly clear how committed the Government are
to grappling with this problem. We want to make sure that
all hard-working families have the housing that they need
at a price they can afford. The root cause of the problem
is that demand outstrips supply. Only by increasing supply
substantially will we stop the increasing spiralling of
house prices and rents.
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If all options are on the table in the White Paper, will
the Government reconsider the right to buy and extend the
discount? Have the Government put a cost against how much
money has been paid out in the extended right-to-buy scheme
and how many properties might have been delivered had the
money gone directly to house building?
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The hon. Gentleman will not be surprised to hear that I
disagree with his point about right to buy. We are firmly
committed to it. We want to encourage the aspiration for
everyone to own their own home. We want to enable that, and
right to buy is very much a part of it. He made very
thoughtful remarks in his earlier contribution, and we have
answers. We are firmly committed to making sure that, for
every additional home sold, another social home will be
provided—nationally. There is a rolling three-year deadline
for councils to deliver the affordable homes to replace
right to buy. We must also remember that when someone
exercises their right to buy, the house is not removed from
the stock. They still have a housing need. Again, the issue
comes back to making sure that we increase the supply of
houses.
Perhaps I can give the hon. Gentleman a little more
comfort. It was said by the hon. Member for Brentford and
Isleworth that councils were not building more homes.
Actually, they are. Some councils are showing considerable
imagination in unlocking new homes. They are establishing
local housing companies and we are encouraging them to do
that. We see local councils as part of the partnership to
help to increase supply.
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I am sorry if the hon. Lady feels that I said councils are
not building new homes. They are building new homes, but
they are having to use other resources now that there is no
Government funding. They could build an awful lot more if
they could be released from the borrowing cap. My own
council is building about 400 new council homes. The
problem is that councils are losing their own stock at a
faster rate through the right to buy than they can build
new council homes. They are building them using capital
funds that could also be used for other infrastructure such
as schools and so on.
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I am not sure I entirely accept that. Certainly local
authorities have the powers to borrow using their general
power of competence, and they have established local
housing companies to do that. There is an obligation to
replace one for one, following the right to buy being
exercised. Ultimately, we see local authorities as a
partner in delivering more housing. That is the message I
want to press home today.
Our broken housing market is one of the greatest barriers
to progress in Britain today. If we are really serious
about building a fairer society for everyone, we need to
tackle that. We need to fix this to make sure that housing
is more affordable. As has been mentioned, many people
spend significant amounts of their income on rent or
mortgage payments. Building more homes will slow the rise
in housing costs so that many more families will be able to
afford to buy a home or enjoy the benefits of lower rents.
To summarise and put what the housing White Paper proposes
in context, first, we will insist that every area has an
up-to-date plan, because development is about far more than
just building homes. This is where the challenge is for
local authorities. The planning process and building a
vision of where new homes will be built and what the future
will be for a local economy is so important. It is about
getting community buy-in. It will help to tackle some of
the cultural prejudices that we discussed earlier in the
debate. If communities have ownership of a local plan for
their local area, they will get the attractive homes that
they want and need. My challenge is for local authorities
to step up and deliver. We are all aware that there are far
too many local authorities that have not risen to the
challenge of identifying where houses are needed. There are
still too many councils that do not have a local plan, and
they need to show leadership and deliver.
Secondly, and as the hon. Member for Ealing Central and
Acton (Dr Huq) noted, we need to ensure that homes are
built quickly once planning permission is granted. We will
make sure that the planning system is much more open and
accessible. We will improve the co-ordination of public
investment infrastructure to encourage that, and we will
support timely connections to utilities to tackle
unnecessary delays, but the real issue is developers. We
will give councils and developers the tools they need to
build more swiftly and we will expect them to use them. I
suspect that this is an issue that we will look at as
reactions to the White Paper unfold and we consider whether
there is a need for further legislative change.
We will also diversify the market. We want to bring new
players in to the supply of housing. We need to give
support to small and medium-sized builders and custom
builders and to champion modern methods of construction to
support new investment to build to rent. Those measures
could be transformational. The idea of institutional
investment that builds property estates or residential
blocks that are specifically for rent, which people can
rent for a long time, could transform the housing market
and make renting much more affordable.
The White Paper also sets out how we will support housing
associations to build more and explores options to
encourage local authorities to build again. As I have said,
we will also encourage further institutional investment in
the private rented sector. Finally, because we recognise
that building the homes we need takes time, we will also
take more steps now to improve safeguards in the private
rented sector. Hon. Members who represent constituencies in
London will be particularly concerned about that.
We have seen the need to do more to prevent homelessness. I
am very pleased that the Government have committed to fully
funding the Homelessness Reduction Bill introduced by my
hon. Friend the Member for Harrow East (Bob Blackman). We
will provide £61 million to local government to meet the
costs of the new burdens associated with that Bill over the
course of the spending review period.
We could easily trade statistics, but I do not think there
is any value in playing the blame game about where we are
now. We need to look at how we fix it. Everybody has a role
to play in that—including the former Leader of the
Opposition, the right hon. Member for Doncaster North
(Edward Miliband), who the hon. Member for Ealing Central
and Acton mentioned. The Government are very clear that
fixing the problem is a real priority.
We have already delivered 313,000 affordable homes in
England since 2010. The affordable homes programme alone
delivered 193,000 affordable homes, exceeding expectations
by 23,000. At the autumn statement, the Chancellor
announced the expansion of the affordable homes programme
with an additional £1.4 billion, which increased the
overall budget to £7.1 billion. That is a significant
investment from the Government in tackling the problem. The
expanded programme also allows a wider range of products to
help people on the pathway to home ownership and to
continue to provide support for those who need it. Those
products include shared ownership, rent to buy and
affordable rent.
Opening up the programme in that way will help to meet the
housing needs of a wider range of people in different
circumstances and at different stages in their lives. We
have to recognise that there are different problems in
different areas of the country, but also different problems
hitting people at different stages of their lives. We need
to make sure that we have a solution for all of those.
Affordable rent was a policy introduced to get more bang
for our buck in providing social rent models. It allows
rent to be set at 80% of market rents so that we can unlock
more supply. Those tenants will still benefit from a
sub-market rent. This is a particular issue in London,
where the affordable rent can be set even lower.
Home ownership, however, continues to be the aspiration for
most people, which is why we have looked at the Help to Buy
products, right to buy and shared ownership. Shared
ownership offers a route through the part-buy/part-rent
model to enable people to get on the housing ladder sooner
than if they were saving for a deposit. Purchasers buy a
minimum 20% share in the new-build property at market
value, pay a controlled rent on the remainder and may
continue to buy further shares until the property is owned
outright. We will continue to use that tool to expand home
ownership. Since 2010, around 45,000 new shared ownership
schemes have been delivered and we will continue to deliver
more.
Help to Buy has already helped more than 200,000 households
to buy a home, including through the equity loan scheme,
which has benefited 100,000 households—81% of whom were
first-time buyers. We have also committed £8.6 billion for
the Help to Buy equity loan scheme to 2021, to ensure that
it continues to support homebuyers and stimulate supply. We
recognise the need to create certainty for prospective
homeowners so we will work with the sector to deliver that.
I come back to the issue of the planning regime and how we
can speed up its ability to help to deliver the volume of
supply. My hon. Friend the Member for Weston-super-Mare is
quite right to look at tools for how we can do that. He
highlighted the importance of increasing brownfield
development and building to higher densities to deliver
more homes. If widely adopted, that could reduce the need
for green-belt development. What excites me about the idea
is the ability to regenerate our high streets. I am sure I
am not alone, given the way that retail is moving today, in
seeing some of my high streets really struggling. The idea
that we could create a new, mixed-use high street, rather
than a retail-dependent one—one where people can live above
the shops or behind the shops in new high-rise developments
and be able to go downstairs and visit cafes and
restaurants—is quite an exciting concept, which would
particularly appeal to the younger generations coming
through. There is massive potential, and I encourage my
hon. Friend to carry on trying to open people’s eyes to the
potential of this initiative.
The Department has been engaging with my hon. Friend on his
work and has taken up his proposals. We consulted last
February on proposals to allow limited upward extensions in
London, no higher than the height of an adjoining roofline.
Following that consultation, we recognise that there is
potential to deliver more homes nationally, not just in
London, through a change to national planning policy to
support upward extensions in suitable locations. As set out
in the housing White Paper, we propose to amend the
national planning policy framework to make it clear that
local plans and individual development proposals should
address the particular scope for higher-density housing in
urban locations where buildings can be extended upwards by
using the airspace above them.
In the White Paper, we have committed to reviewing the
nationally described space standards, because of feedback
from the sector that in certain places, space standards
make it hard to use land efficiently and stop cheaper
houses being built, which more people now want to rent or
buy, such as pocket homes. We have to recognise the
limitations. When we write planning law, we write it at a
given time, in a given set of circumstances. When the world
changes, we need to be prepared to be fleet of foot in
dealing with new opportunities to address the issues we
face. However, this is not a race to the bottom, and
Government are clear that in assessing the options we will
be looking for a solution that combines greater local
housing choice with good quality and with decent places to
live.
As I have set out, in the past few years we have seen over
300,000 affordable homes built in England. We now need to
go much, much further and meet our obligation to build many
more houses, of the type people want to live in, in the
places they want to live and at a price they can afford.
Doing that will give those growing up in society today more
chance to enjoy the same opportunities as their parents and
grandparents. I am struck by the fact that this is the
first time that the future generation will be less well-off
than their parents, when for many decades we have been used
to high living standards. It is firmly my view that the
price of housing is central to that.
We will ensure that the housing market is as fair for those
who do not own their own home as it is for those who do,
and we will continue to look at what is happening in the
private rented sector. All that is a vital part of our plan
for a stronger, fairer Britain, and a critical step along
the road to fulfilling the Government’s mission to make
Britain a country that works for everyone.
10.39 am
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I would like to extend my thanks to everybody who
participated in this debate, in particular my hon. Friend the
Minister—and Whip—for responding so constructively and
helpfully. As she said, the timing of this debate was
slightly fortuitous. As everyone here will appreciate, when
we put in for debates we have little control over precisely
when our names will come up, so I had no idea that it would
take place 24 hours after the publication of the housing
White Paper.
As the Minister said, I have been campaigning on this issue
for some time, so this is at least partially a celebration of
victory, because I am pleased to say that the Government have
listened. There is a great deal in the White Paper about
building up, not out, and it contains some very welcome
steps. The Government deserve full credit for taking some
major steps in the right direction. Therefore, my modest
proposal, as the hon. Member for Brentford and Isleworth
(Ruth Cadbury) called it, is a final flourish or a final
capstone—a residual step to ensure that it is done well and
fully, rather than only partially. I think I am very close to
the summit of achieving what we need to do, and I want to
take this final step. This is, at least in part, a
celebration of victory as much as a request for further
activity.
I want to pick up on the Minister’s comments about there
being a slightly miserable tone to the debate. She is
absolutely right that there is no silver bullet to this
problem, but it is perhaps a little reductive to say that
because one particular proposal—in this case, my final
step—does not solve all the complicated, deep-rooted and
long-lasting housing problems that this country faces, it
should therefore be opposed. If we let the best be the enemy
of the good, we will get nowhere. This is a far broader issue
than we can possibly cover in one debate, but I am pleased to
say that we will make some progress.
I will finish on this point, which I direct to the Labour
party and the hon. Member for Brentford and Isleworth in
particular. My hon. Friend the Minister said there was a
cultural divide over tall buildings, but I think that in this
Chamber there has been a cultural divide over the approach to
regulation, too. I accept that the planning permission and
planning regulation process plays an important role in
preventing substandard building and inappropriate large-scale
building—the hon. Member for Brentford and Isleworth was
right to point all those things out. However, when it comes
to regulating our fellow citizens in a free society, the
burden of proof is on us to show why what we are doing to
take away their freedoms is right, not on them to explain why
they should have them back. Therefore, if I have a modest
suggestion for an extension of those freedoms—a rolling back
that will not impact on the broader points that the planning
system is rightly geared to prevent abuses of—then it is up
to us to justify why that should not happen. The burden of
proof should be on us.
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Mrs (in the Chair)
Can I check that the hon. Gentleman is not giving way?
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I have finished my remarks.
Question put and agreed to.
Resolved,
That this House has considered low cost housing.
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