Driving Offences: Government Consultation Motion made, and
Question proposed, That this House do now adjourn.—(Chris
Heaton-Harris.) 9.42 pm Wayne David (Caerphilly) (Lab)
Most drivers drive safely, and Britain has one of the best safety
records in the world. It is good to see growing public awareness of
the need for safety, and a growing number of community groups are
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Driving Offences: Government Consultation
Motion made, and Question proposed, That this House do now
adjourn.—(Chris Heaton-Harris.)
9.42 pm
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(Caerphilly) (Lab)
Most drivers drive safely, and Britain has one of the best
safety records in the world. It is good to see growing
public awareness of the need for safety, and a growing
number of community groups are working with the police to
reduce the incidence of speeding on our roads. I refer, for
example, to the excellent work of the Draethen, Waterloo
and Rudry community voice project and the Machen community
road watch, both in my constituency.
At the same time, with a growing number of vehicles on the
road, there is growing public concern about aspects of the
law as it relates to driving. In particular, the law and
sentencing guidelines do not always provide a proportionate
response to the crimes committed on our roads. In that
context, I refer to an accident that occurred in south
Wales a year-and-a-half ago.
In October 2015, a horrendous accident occurred in
Georgetown, Merthyr Tydfil in which three young men from
Gilfach, Bargoed in my constituency lost their lives. They
were passengers in a car that crashed into a roadside
telegraph post. Two of the young men were presumed dead at
the scene of the accident, and the third man died of his
injuries some weeks later. The driver of the car and the
front-seat passenger both survived the accident.
The driver of the car was arrested some weeks later on
suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. He was
released on police bail and allowed to continue driving. I
understand that the law has now been changed to prevent
such an occurrence.
At the end of the trial, the judge stated that there was
insufficient evidence to
“prove to the right standard that the defendant’s driving
was dangerous”.
Instead, the defendant was found guilty of causing death by
careless driving. The defendant admitted three counts of
death on that basis and was jailed for 10 months. The
charges of death by dangerous driving were dismissed by the
judge.
The sentence that was delivered was, I am told, in line
with sentencing guidelines and reflects the plea of guilty
made by the defendant. But given the severity of the crime,
the families of the three young men who had lost their
lives were naturally shocked and appalled by the leniency
of the sentence. Indeed, everyone who has read or heard
about this case has been aghast at how such a lenient
sentence could have been imposed. I am told that the
defendant showed no remorse during the trial and, to make
matters worse, he was released from prison having only
served five months of his sentence.
Although I do not expect the Minister to comment on this
case, I would like to make two further points relating to
it. First, I am told that a material fact was not brought
to the attention of the judge due to a police failing: some
months before the accident, the defendant had been
cautioned for a driving offence, but that caution had not
been recorded properly by Gwent police and therefore it was
not brought to the attention of the judge. The caution
would probably have been inadmissible as evidence, but it
may have had a bearing on the sentence delivered. The
matter has been taken-up with Gwent police and with the
police and crime commissioner for Gwent.
I am also concerned about the apparent lack of sensitivity
and support for the families of the deceased young men
shown by the Crown Prosecution Service. Having indicated to
the families that a charge of death by dangerous driving
was being pursued, the CPS did not then sufficiently
explain to the families why a lesser charge was being
imposed. This case is obviously germane to the Government’s
consultation on “Driving offences and penalties relating to
causing death or serious injury”. That consultation
concluded at the start of this month. It was an important
consultation and I have made a submission to it. The
Government will now consider whether the sentencing
guidelines ought to be modified.
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(Strangford) (DUP)
The hon. Gentleman has brought a very important issue to
the House for consideration, and we are all here because we
support him and congratulate him on doing that. Does he
agree that the average sentence of not even four years is
certainly not enough of a penalty for those who take a life
in this way? Does he further agree that we should consider
a life sentence for those who have a history of careless
driving offences, such as those he has referred to?
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I have a great deal of sympathy with the point that has
been made. One point I want to elaborate on later is the
inadequacy of the sentencing for crimes of this sort.
I referred to the consultation and I am disappointed by it,
as, unfortunately, the Government circumscribed it from the
start. They did that by stating that they had already
decided that there was to be no change in the legislation
relating to the definition of careless driving and
dangerous driving. Although the consultation paper from the
Ministry of Justice acknowledges that the distinction
between careless and dangerous driving has been
“the subject of extensive scrutiny and debate”,
the Government indicated that they had already made up
their mind in favour of maintaining the status quo. This is
most unfortunate.
The case regarding my constituents from Bargoed has, among
other things, highlighted that the distinction between
careless driving and dangerous driving is artificial and
unhelpful in ensuring that sentences reflect the gravity of
the crime they seek to punish. The definition of careless
driving is set-out in section 3ZA of the Road Traffic Act
1988 and it stipulates that a person is driving carelessly
if they are driving without “due care and attention'”. The
law also adds that there is careless driving if the manner
of driving falls below what could be expected of a
competent and careful driver.
What constitutes dangerous driving is set out in section
2A(1) of that Act. It applies to a person whose driving
falls far below what could be expected of a competent and
careful driver.
The consultation paper makes the fair point that it is
impossible to set out what might constitute careless or
dangerous driving in every case because, quite obviously,
every case is different. However, that is a strong argument
for having a continuum of what I will call bad driving,
rather than a division between careless and dangerous
driving. As things stand, given that the threshold for
proving dangerous driving is quite high, it is much easier
to err on the side of caution and secure a conviction for
the lesser offence of careless driving. That is an argument
relevant to a prosecutor’s decision, as well as to a
judge’s determination.
As I have said, I have made a submission to the
consultation. An important submission has also been made by
Brake, the road safety charity, in which it, too, argues
that the distinction between careless driving and dangerous
driving is questionable, particularly in cases relating to
death and injury. Brake has also pointed out that there is
a lack of consistency in the differentiation between
careless driving and dangerous driving. Its submission
says:
“the test lacks any bench-mark for consistency due in large
part to the variability of facts on a case to case basis”.
In reality, the line between the low of what is expected of
a competent and careful driver, and far below that, is
impossible to pinpoint with any degree of accuracy. As
Brake has pointed out, there is also a need to change our
terminology. I accept that it is insufficient simply to
advise the judiciary to refer to “bad driving”. Equally, it
is inappropriate to talk of careless driving when we are
referring to death or serious injury. The language of the
charges needs to be changed to reflect the seriousness of
the issue.
It is clear that the law needs to be changed. As it stands,
the law, and the sentencing guidelines that emanate from
it, do not command full public confidence. Surprising
though it must seem, only a minority of people convicted of
death by careless driving are given a custodial sentence,
and the average sentence is little over a year. In 2011,
the average length of a custodial sentence for causing
death by careless driving was 15.3 months; in 2014, it was
10.4 months; and in 2015, it was 14.4 months. In the case I
have highlighted, in which three young men lost their
lives, the sentence was a mere 10 months.
I hope the Government listen to what members of the public
are saying and take heed of what Brake is arguing for. The
consultation may have concluded, but I very much hope that
the Government will begin a more fundamental consultative
process that will eventually lead to a change in the law.
Any changes made will not correct the wrongs that have been
done to the families of the three young men from Bargoed,
but they will at least help to ensure that other families
might not have to go through the torment that they have
experienced over the past year and a half.
9.53 pm
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr
Sam Gyimah)
I congratulate the hon. Member for Caerphilly (Wayne David)
on securing this debate about the Government’s consultation
on driving offences and penalties relating to causing death
or serious injury. In one way, the debate is timely, as the
consultation closed last week—on 1 February. I want to take
this opportunity to thank the thousands of people—more than
9,000, in fact—who took the time to respond. We received
responses from road safety groups such as Brake, driving
organisations, academics, Members of this House, police
officers, prosecutors, defence lawyers and families who lost
loved ones as a result of terrible driving offences. We also
heard from from members of the general public who simply
wanted to share what they thought about road traffic offences
and penalties. I am grateful for the time and effort that all
those people put into their responses.
I am sure that Members appreciate that I am not going to set
out now, just a week later, the Government’s assessment and
our response to the consultation. We will, of course,
consider every one of those 9,000-plus responses. We will
then produce a written response and bring forward proposals
for legislative or other changes.
Before the consultation closed, I met a number of families
who have experienced terrible losses as a result of driving
offences. I was struck by how much they wanted to respond to
the consultation because they needed to share their
experience and wanted to make the law as effective as
possible. As a Justice Minister, I cannot comment on
individual cases, inlcuding the charges brought or the
sentences imposed. However, from talking to those families
and a series of debates that I attended last year, I know
that many Members of this House will be aware of cases
involving road deaths in their own constituencies.
I know that there was a particularly tragic case in the hon.
Gentleman’s constituency when three young men were killed by
a driver who was subsequently convicted of causing death by
careless driving. I extend my deepest sympathies to the
families and friends of those three young men who died when
they were just at the beginning of their adult lives.
Although I cannot comment on individual cases, I do want to
deal with the main points raised by the hon. Gentleman. He
suggests that the Government should have expanded the
consultation to include a consideration of the differences
between careless driving and dangerous driving. The
consultation does in fact deal with that important issue,
particularly the suggestion that the distinction between
careless driving and dangerous driving should be abolished
and replaced with one “bad driving” offence.
I recognise, as is set out in the consultation, that this can
be a difficult area of law. What amounts to dangerous driving
is determined not, as is more normal in the criminal law, by
considering the driver’s state of mind or intentions, which
in the context of driving is often difficult to ascertain,
but by examining the nature of the driving. The law sets out
an objective test that is designed to compare the driving of
a defendant in the specific circumstances of their case with
what would be expected of a notional careful and competent
driver. In general terms, if the court considers that the
defendant’s driving falls far below that standard, and it
would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that the
manner of the driving was dangerous, the court will find it
to have been dangerous driving.
Our law needs to reflect that while the harm caused in
homicide cases and fatal driving offences is the same,
because someone has died, the offender’s culpability for the
death may be significantly different. The consultation
examined the option for a single bad driving offence. It set
out in detail why the Government are not persuaded of a case
for change. Those who propose a single test have said that it
will lead to more convictions and longer sentences. As is set
out in the consultation, we do not believe that that is
necessarily the case. That is because the maximum penalty for
the single offence would have to be broad enough to cover the
most serious cases—we have proposed a life sentence for
causing death—and also the least serious when the driver’s
culpability for the death is very low. If we do not have a
distinction in the offences between the seriousness of the
offending, it is possible that the conviction rate may
actually fall because juries might be reluctant to convict a
driver in lesser cases—one where they can imagine themselves
in the same position—for an offence with a very serious
maximum penalty.
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I acknowledge the Minister’s argument, which I have heard
before. If we went out to consultation on this specific
issue, which we have not really done, would it not be far
better if the Government were informed by a wider legal
debate as well as public opinion in case they might want to
change the law in the future?
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Mr Gyimah
The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. I suspect that
if I were to look at his submission to the consultation, I
would see that he has made points similar to those that he
has raised in this debate. When members of the public have
concerns, I am sure that they will have made us aware of them
through the consultation process. That is absolutely fair—it
is why we have a consultation—but a consultation has to start
and finish somewhere.
The Government’s case is that if we do not have a distinction
between the seriousness of offences, the conviction rate
could fall. Sentences might not increase either, because the
judge in the case would still consider the culpability of the
offender when deciding the appropriate sentence. I would not
want to mislead victims and families by suggesting that a
broader offence would necessarily result in higher sentences.
I disagree that a single offence would mean that the Crown
Prosecution Service would be unable to accept a lesser plea
in circumstances when that was inappropriate. The CPS
operates under the code for Crown prosecutors and will bring
the most serious charge appropriate for the behaviour when
there is a reasonable chance of securing a conviction that is
in the interest of justice. It is worth noting that a judge
may direct that there is no evidence to sustain a more
serious charge in some cases.
In conclusion, let me repeat that there can be nothing more
tragic than the loss of young lives—any lives—especially when
that loss is avoidable. I know only too well that many hon.
Members have seen cases where people have died in such
circumstances in their constituencies, and where there are
concerns about the sentences imposed. As I said in a debate
at the end of last year, for too long these concerns have not
been acted upon. At that time, I reaffirmed the Government’s
commitment to consulting on the offences and penalties for
driving offences resulting in death and serious injury. That
is what the Government have done. We will analyse all the
responses and come forward with plans in the near future.
Question put and agreed to.
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