Oral Answers to Questions Education Mr Speaker I call Karen
Buck. Not here. Well, one person who is here—I can see that very
clearly, to my great satisfaction—is the right hon. Member for Mid
Sussex (Sir Nicholas Soames). The Secretary of State was
asked— Education Funding: West Sussex Sir Nicholas Soames
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Oral Answers to Questions
Education
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Mr Speaker
I call . Not here. Well, one
person who is here—I can see that very clearly, to my great
satisfaction—is the right hon. Member for Mid Sussex (Sir
Nicholas Soames).
The Secretary of State was asked—
Education Funding: West Sussex
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Sir (Mid Sussex)
(Con)
2. What her plans are for education funding in West Sussex.
[908587]
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The Secretary of State for Education (Justine
Greening)
We are replacing the historical postcode lottery in school
funding with a proper, transparent national funding formula
that is fair whereby funding will be allocated to schools
based on the needs of pupils. Compared with the alternative
of the current postcode-lottery approach, the fairer
funding proposals on which we are consulting would mean a
£14.6 million annual increase in funding to local West
Sussex schools.
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Sir
I am sorry, Mr Speaker; you caught me without my wig.
Almost all the 286 schools in West Sussex find their
budgets under extreme strain, so they welcome these new
developments, but as West Sussex is already one of the
lowest funded of all the shire counties, will my right hon.
Friend look very carefully in particular at the budgets of
small rural schools, which find themselves unfortunately
and unfavourably treated?
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Of course, my right hon. Friend will be aware that we are
in the second phase of the consultation on the introduction
of the national funding formula. This is a
once-in-a-generation opportunity to finally reach a
settlement on fair funding that really works. I know that
he and many other colleagues will have their views about
how they want the formula to work, and he is right to raise
them.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Mr Speaker
Order. I listened carefully to the response from the
Secretary of State, who has not broadened the matter, and
therefore the question appertains exclusively to West
Sussex.
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(City of Chester)
(Lab)
rose—
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Mr Speaker
Order. The hon. Gentleman’s Chester constituency is a
considerable distance from West Sussex, but if, and only
if, his question focuses exclusively upon West Sussex—
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Almost exclusively, Mr Speaker?
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Mr Speaker
No, exclusively. Get in there, man.
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West Sussex’s education funding has increased by 1.9%—I am
very pleased to hear that—but other areas close to West
Sussex will have received cuts of up to 1.3%, so why is
West Sussex being treated so much more generously?
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Mr Speaker
The hon. Gentleman is a very fine man, but I am not sure
that he would triumph if he appeared on “Just a Minute”.
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I recognise that the funding formula means that schools
will receive different settlements from the ones that they
have had in the past. We are trying to ensure that every
single child, wherever they are growing up in England, gets
the same amount of funding, but that there is then a top-up
in relation to additional needs, such as in respect of
deprivation, which has been based on out-of-date data up
until now, or indeed additional funding for low prior
attainment.
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Sir (New Forest West)
(Con)
Will the impact of the new formula in West Sussex
dis-proportionately disadvantage rural primary schools in
the way that it will elsewhere?
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The introduction of the formula leads to different effects
in different parts of the country. Obviously, we are
putting in place a fair funding formula, but it has to work
for all schools. We are having the second phase of the
consultation to try to ensure that we get this right. We
have particularly focused on helping small rural schools by
relating an element of the formula to sparsity. There is
also a lump-sum element. I am interested to hear all
colleagues’ views in the consultation.
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(Ashton-under-Lyne)
(Lab)
The Secretary of State’s answers so far will give no
comfort to schools in West Sussex, which will have had an
8% reduction by 2019, or anywhere else that is facing
real-terms funding cuts. Does she stand by her party’s
manifesto pledge that every school in Britain, including
every school in West Sussex, will receive a real-terms
spending increase per pupil during this Parliament?
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As ever, the hon. Lady is not clear about whether she even
supports the concept of fair funding. I would have thought
that all MPs would want to see all children getting fair
schools funding across the board. A record amount of money
is going into our schools budget and we have protected the
core schools budget in real terms. There is record funding,
but it is important that we ensure, through the fair
funding formula, that it is distributed fairly.
National Funding Formula: Devon
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Mr (Exeter) (Lab)
4. What representations she has received on the effect of
the proposed funding formula on schools in Devon; and if
she will make a statement. [908589]
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The Minister for School Standards (Mr Nick Gibb)
We received 6,000 responses to the first stage of the
consultation on the national funding formula, which sets
out the principles and factors to be used in the formula.
We continue to receive representations on the second stage
of the consultation, which closes on 22 March. Our
proposals for funding reform will mean that schools will,
for the first time, receive a consistent and fair share of
the schools budget, addressing the anachronistic unfair
funding system that has been in place since 2005.
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Mr Bradshaw
Exeter schools already suffer a double whammy—they are in
one of the lowest funded counties in England, and they have
to subsidise the high cost of providing school transport
and keeping open small rural schools—yet the new funding
formula will actually make them worse off. How will the
Minister explain that to my constituents and to the schools
themselves?
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Mr Gibb
In Devon, as a result of the new funding formula and on the
basis of the figures for 2016-17, school funding would rise
from £377.2 million to £378.7 million, an increase of 0.4%.
In the right hon. Gentleman’s Exeter constituency, there
will be no overall change in the level of funding, although
there will of course be changes between schools. Whenever
we introduce a new national formula and illustrate it on
the basis of the current year’s figures—in this case,
2016-17—some schools will inevitably gain and others will
lose. Overall, 54% of schools across the country will gain
under the new national funding formula.
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Sir (East Devon) (Con)
If these proposals are adopted, the historically
underfunded constituency of East Devon will have 15 primary
schools that gain while 20 lose out, and all our secondary
schools will lose out. That is clearly neither fair nor
acceptable. Will the Secretary of State agree to meet me
and other Devon MPs so that we can make our point yet
again?
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Mr Gibb
I am very happy to meet my right hon. Friend. I think that
the Secretary of State has already met Devon MPs to discuss
this matter, but I am sure that she will do so again.
I understand the concerns of my right hon. Friend the
Member for East Devon (Sir Hugo Swire). There is a small
fall in overall funding in his constituency, although 40%
of schools in East Devon will see a rise in income on the
basis of the new formula. The new funding formula attaches
a higher value to deprivation than Devon’s local formula,
so schools in Devon with a low proportion of pupils from a
disadvantaged background or with low prior attainment do
less well under the national formula. I am sure that my
right hon. Friend will continue to make representations
through the consultation, which closes on 22 March.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Mr Speaker
Order. By his earlier reference to the situation “across
the country”, the Minister extended the question beyond
Devon, allowing other would-be contributors to ask a
question.
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(Batley and Spen)
(Lab)
The head of one of my local academy trusts tells me that
his school will lose more than 2.5% of its overall budget
as a result of the national funding formula alone. That
figure is higher than the 1.5% cap promised by the
Government. Does the Minister share the trust’s view that
the cuts will have the biggest impact on deprived and
vulnerable children? If so, what are the Government doing?
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Mr Gibb
No, I am afraid that the hon. Lady is wrong. We aggregated
all the local funding formulae across the 150 local
authorities and looked at the level of deprivation. We are
allocating 9.5% of the national funding formula to
deprivation, which is broadly in line with the existing
position. We have also increased the amount in the funding
formula that goes to children who start school behind. The
scheme is deliberately designed to help children from
disadvantaged backgrounds who are falling behind. I would
have thought that the hon. Lady, representing the
constituency that she does, would support a fairer funding
system that helps those particular children.
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(Tiverton and Honiton)
(Con)
19. Further to the question asked by my right hon. Friend
the Member for East Devon (Sir Hugo Swire), Devon’s small
rural schools and the long distances that our pupils have
to travel mean that we need more funding. While I welcome
fairer funding, we are starting a long way behind. [908604]
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Mr Gibb
I accept my hon. Friend’s comments. Schools in his
constituency will gain about £300,000 of funding overall—a
0.6% increase. On the basis of illustrative figures for
2016-17, 70.6% of schools in his constituency will actually
gain funding, compared with 29% that will lose a small
amount.
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(Lewisham, Deptford)
(Lab)
20. By 2020, the national funding formula will lead to a
loss of £339 for every primary pupil and £477 for every
secondary pupil. In my constituency, the figures are even
higher, with primary schools losing £558 per pupil and
secondary schools losing £717 per pupil. How can the
Minister justify that when the child poverty level in my
constituency is 36%? [908605]
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Mr Gibb
Because the hon. Lady’s constituency will remain one of the
highest-funded areas of the country. She is right that the
per pupil funding rate in Lewisham, Deptford will fall from
£5,708 to £5,550 as a result of the national funding
formula, but that is still one of the highest in the
country. The prosperity of London as a whole has increased
over the past 10 years, with the proportion of children on
free school meals falling from 27% to 18%, but it still has
some of the highest levels of deprivation. That is why,
under the new national funding formula, London’s funding
remains 30% higher than the national average.
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(North Devon)
(Con)
I welcome the principle of the new national funding
formula, but one third of schools in North Devon look set
to lose funding under the indicative figures. Will the
Minister continue to listen carefully to our
representations? Will he also confirm whether the
indicative figures are just that and that they could be
subject to some revision?
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Mr Gibb
Yes, of course. The consultation is genuine and has been
extended for two weeks until 22 March so that we can hear
representations from my hon. Friend, from other Members and
from members of the public.
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(Ashton-under-Lyne)
(Lab)
Will the Minister confirm last week’s report that the
Secretary of State handed back to the Treasury £384 million
that was earmarked for school improvement? Does he agree
with the estimate of London Councils that it would take
£335 million to ensure that no school loses out under the
new funding formula?
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Mr Gibb
The hon. Lady should know how negotiations with the
Treasury work. We negotiated a good agreement with the
Treasury and have protected core school funding in real
terms. We are spending £40 billion a year on school
funding—a record high figure—and that is set to rise, as
pupil numbers rise over the next two years, to £42 billion
by 2019-20. The figure that she refers to is about the cost
of academisation. That proposal continues, but we are not
targeting the same timetable that was agreed in the
previous White Paper.
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(Torbay) (Con)
The Minister will be aware that Torbay’s schools benefit
overall from the proposals, yet the grammar schools that
serve a large swathe of south Devon do not. I thank him for
his courtesy in recently meeting the heads of those
schools. Will he update me on when we are likely to receive
a detailed response to the points we raised?
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Mr Gibb
As I said at the meeting, which I enjoyed very much,
schools in my hon. Friend’s constituency will gain £1.2
million of extra funding under the new national funding
formula, which amounts to an increase of 2.4%. The funding
of 78% of schools in his constituency will increase as a
result of the formula. I listened carefully to the
representations that he and headteachers in his
constituency made, and I will respond to him shortly.
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(Leicester West)
(Lab)
The Minister said earlier that it will be schools with
fewer deprived pupils and better prior attainment that are
likely to lose out under his proposals, but in my
constituency that is simply wrong. The nine schools that
will have their funding cut are in the most deprived parts
of the city where, on average, children start school 20
months behind where they should be in their development.
Something has gone very badly wrong with his plans. Will he
look again and explain to me and the teachers in my
constituency why the kids who need help the most are going
to lose out?
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Mr Gibb
The hon. Lady will have looked at the consultation document
and seen that a very high proportion of the national
funding formula is allocated on the basis of
disadvantage—it is based on pupils’ low prior attainment
and things such as English as an additional language. The
difference is that we are basing the national funding
formula on today’s data, not the data as they were in 2005.
As my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State has said, we
have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to put in place
something that the Labour party neglected to do: a fair
national funding formula that is based on a clear set of
factors and principles, and on up-to-date data.
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(Wealden) (Con)
In East Sussex, funding per pupil is £193 lower than the
national average. What more can be done for my schools in
Wealden, which are both small and rural?
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Mr Gibb
We have ensured that sparsity is an important factor in the
national funding formula and we are increasing funding for
the sparsity element from £15 million to £27 million across
the system. East Sussex sees an increase in its funding
overall and my hon. Friend should welcome this much fairer
system. It is fairer to schools in East Sussex and right
across the country.
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(Kingston upon Hull
North) (Lab)
21. Hull is the 19th most deprived area of the country. In
November, when I asked the Secretary of State about the £13
million projected cut to Hull’s school budgets by 2020, she
denied it. The figures have now been crunched, and actually
it is a £13.2 million reduction in budgets by 2020. What
should I say to the heads of the schools in my
constituency? [908606]
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Mr Gibb
I suggest that the hon. Lady tells schools in Hull that,
because of the way in which the new national funding
formula addresses historical anachronisms and because of
our focus on tackling deprivation, Hull’s school funding
under the formula rises from £157 million to £161.7
million, which is an increase of some 3%. In her
constituency of Kingston upon Hull North, funding rises by
£1.4 million, with 83% of her schools seeing an increase in
funding on the basis of 2016-17 figures.
National Funding Formula: Hampshire
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Mr (North East
Hampshire) (Con)
5. What assessment she has made of the effect of the
proposed national funding formula on schools in Hampshire.
[908590]
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The Secretary of State for Education (Justine
Greening)
As we have been hearing, the Government want a fairer
approach. It is clear that the Labour party supports the
status quo of an unfair, un-transparent, outdated
postcode-lottery approach to how schools funding is
distributed. For Hampshire, this fairer alternative will
mean extra money: £9 million of extra money every year for
high-needs children in local Hampshire schools, in fact,
and a further £4.5 million every year for Hampshire schools
overall on top of that. My hon. Friend’s local schools in
North East Hampshire will gain more than £1 million a year.
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Mr Jayawardena
I thank the Secretary of State for those figures, which are
most welcome—indeed, the county council leader said that to
me the other day—but living costs are also high in
Hampshire, especially in North East Hampshire. Will she
consider tweaking the formula so that it includes a
cost-neutral cost of living allowance, given that the
average house price in my patch is £375,000, but house
prices just over the border, where there is a London
allowance, are £50,000 cheaper?
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I am sure my hon. Friend will want to make those points as
part of the consultation that is under way, but as he will
be aware, our formula looks at area cost adjustments that
take into account variations in not only the general labour
market but specifically the teaching labour markets. Such
an approach is designed to compensate schools that face
higher wage costs. We have a measure that is based on
salaries, which we think is the best way, but as I said,
this is a consultation and I am sure he will want to put
the point he makes into it.
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Mr Speaker
It is quite a long way over the border to Liverpool,
Wavertree, but there we go. I call .
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(Liverpool, Wavertree)
(Lab/Co-op)
During these questions, we seem to be dealing with some
“alternative facts”. According to the details I have in
front of me, Liverpool schools are set to lose £3.6
million. I visited a primary school in Picton in my
constituency—Picton is one of the most deprived wards in
the country—that is going to lose more than 10% of its
budget; we are talking about more than £100,000 for some of
the most deprived children in this country. Can the
Government please explain to Labour Members, and to the
whole House, exactly what is going on and why they seem to
be presenting something very different from what our
schools are having to contend with in reality?
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I think it is because we are using accurate data. We end up
in a straightforward place. First, do we believe that our
children should be funded fairly during their time in
school, wherever in the country they are growing up?
Secondly, do we believe that deprivation funding should be
based on up-to-date data? If the Labour party wants an
approach that is unfair and based on out-of-date data, I
will be happy to see its submissions in the consultation.
National Funding Formula
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(The
Cotswolds) (Con)
6. What progress her Department is making on the proposed
national funding formula for schools. [908591]
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The Minister for School Standards (Mr Nick Gibb)
Our proposals for funding reform mean that schools and
local authority areas would, for the first time, receive a
consistent and fair share of the schools budget, so that
they can give every child the opportunity to reach their
full potential. The consultation on the second stage runs
until 22 March. In Gloucestershire, funding would rise from
£331.5 million to £334 million because of the national
funding formula, on the basis of the 2016-17 figures, which
is a rise of 0.8%.
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My right hon. Friend is well aware that Gloucestershire has
suffered for years under the current system; there is a 61%
disparity between the top-funded primary schools and the
bottom-funded primary schools. Will he look carefully at
the unfair proposals he has brought forward in the funding
formula, because they double-count items such as
deprivation, low attainment and English as a first
language, and it is not fair on rural schools?
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Mr Gibb
I have listened very carefully to the representations my
hon. Friend makes, both today and in the various meetings
we have held. The Government’s proposals for funding reform
seek to balance carefully the differing needs of rural and
urban schools. Schools in the historically lowest-funded
areas would gain, on average, about 3.6% under the national
funding formula; 676 small and remote rural schools would
also benefit from sparsity funding for the first time; and,
nationally, small rural schools, as a group, would gain
1.3% on average, with primary schools in sparse areas
gaining some 5.3% on average. In his constituency, 64% of
the schools would gain funding under the proposals, based
on applying the formula to the current year’s figures.
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(Great Grimsby)
(Lab)
Under the new funding proposals, Ormiston South Parade
academy in my constituency will see a 2.8% reduction in its
budget, yet The Times reported last week that Ormiston
Academies Trust is seeking to hire a public relations
agency for up to £900,000 to deal with reputational
management. Does the Minister think that parents will
consider that a good use of Government funding or that that
money should be spent on the school?
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Mr Gibb
Academies face much greater financial scrutiny than local
authority schools. They have to produce annual audited
accounts, whereas local authority schools do not, and the
Education Funding Agency scrutinises closely, on a
quarterly basis, the funding and expenditure of academies
and multi-academy trusts.
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Sir (Southend West) (Con)
22. I appreciate the challenge that my right hon. Friend
faces in finding a fairer funding formula and I appreciate
that this is a consultation period, but does he realise
that if these changes were to go ahead as suggested, every
school in Southend would lose out? I certainly cannot
support that. [908607]
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Mr Gibb
The new funding formula is designed to ensure that funding
is properly matched to need. It uses up-to-date data so
that children who face entrenched barriers to their
education receive the teaching and support that they need.
I recognise that my hon. Friend will be disappointed by the
impact of the proposals, on the basis of illustrative
figures for the 2016-17 year for schools in Southend. As he
knows, we are conducting a full consultation on the
formula’s details, and I know he will continue to make his
views known through that process.
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(Ashton-under-Lyne)
(Lab)
To return to the point made by my hon. Friend the Member
for Great Grimsby (Melanie Onn) about funding for
academies, what will the Minister do to help schools such
as the Whitehaven academy in Cumbria, which has been left
with a crumbling building after his Government axed its
capital funding, and where the teachers are now prevented
from photocopying to save money? Will the Government help
the pupils and parents who need support?
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Mr Gibb
It is nice to hear from the hon. Lady for the third time.
We are spending record amounts on capital: £23 billion has
been allocated for capital spending over this spending
review period. We created 600,000 more school places in the
previous Parliament, and we are committed to creating
another 600,000 in this Parliament. We are spending £40
billion a year on revenue funding for schools—a record
amount that over the next two years will rise, as pupil
numbers rise, to £42 billion. None of that would be
possible if we relied on the Labour party to oversee the
economy. We have a strong economy and we are rescuing it
from the fiasco of the previous Labour Government.
Social Mobility
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(Chippenham)
(Con)
7. What steps her Department is taking to improve social
mobility through education. [908592]
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(Bath) (Con)
11. What steps her Department is taking to improve social
mobility through education. [908596]
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The Secretary of State for Education (Justine
Greening)
We want to see an education system that works for everyone
and that drives social mobility by breaking the link
between a person’s background and where they get to in
life. We are delivering more good school places;
strengthening the teaching profession; investing in and
improving careers education; transforming technical
education and apprenticeships; opening up access to
universities; and focusing effort on areas of the country
with the greatest challenges and the fewest opportunities,
through opportunity areas.
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Currently, the pupil premium is a very limited measure—for
instance, children who are young carers are not recognised.
In addition, it stops at 16, despite some form of education
being compulsory until 18. Will the Minister therefore
consider a review of the pupil premium to achieve true
social mobility?
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The pupil premium is worth £2.5 billion this year, and it
is helping to level the playing field for 2 million
disadvantaged children, including many young carers and
children with mental health problems. We are also looking
at the Children’s Commissioner’s recent report and, indeed,
our own DFE research on the lives of young carers in
England, as part of the cross-Government carers strategy
that is being reviewed and developed. On the point about
age, the national funding formula for 16 to 19-year-olds
provides extra funding for disadvantaged students—around
£540 million this year.
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I welcomed the Government’s “Schools that work for
everyone” Green Paper—probably as much as the Secretary of
State enjoyed reading my lengthy response to it. It showed
the Government’s commitment to ensuring that all pupils
have the best chance of accessing a good education.When
will the draft be published?
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I very much appreciated my hon. Friend’s submission to that
consultation. We received several thousand submissions,
which we are now going through. We will respond in the
spring.
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(Manchester Central)
(Lab/Co-op)
I noticed that the Secretary of State did not mention
grammar schools in her answers to the previous questions
about social mobility. Is that perhaps because in seven out
of 10 grammar schools, all the free-school-meals children
could fit in one classroom? Sir William Borlase’s grammar
school, which I understand is set to be the first to open a
new school, has just three children on free school meals.
Does she think that reflects true social mobility? Are
those numbers acceptable, and if not, what is she doing
about it?
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We have been clear that we want to see existing grammars
take more free-school-meal and disadvantaged children. The
right way to go about getting no progress is to have no
consultation and no policy development in this area, which
is apparently the Labour party’s position.
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(West Lancashire)
(Lab)
If the Department for Education is as committed to social
mobility through education as it claims, will the Secretary
of State explain why cuts to the early years funding
formula and to local authorities have actually weakened
outstanding early years education, which is the foundation
of social mobility?
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Record levels of funding are going into early years. We are
now extending the 15 hours of free childcare to 30. It is
simply wrong to characterise this Government as doing
anything other than pumping record amounts of money into
both early years and indeed the school system.
School Funding: Rural Areas
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(Shrewsbury and
Atcham) (Con)
8. What progress the Government are making on ensuring that
school funding is fairly distributed in rural areas.
[908593]
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(Lewes) (Con)
16. What support the Government plan to provide for small
rural schools as a result of the proposed national funding
formula. [908601]
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The Minister for School Standards (Mr Nick Gibb)
Under the proposed formula, small rural schools will gain
an average of 1.3% in funding, on the basis of the
illustrative figures. We have also confirmed that the
national funding formula will include a sparsity factor.
That will particularly target funding on small and remote
schools, which we know play an important role in our local
communities. On average, small schools serving such
communities would gain 3.3%, and small primary schools
5.3%.
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I thank the Minister for that answer. Under these
proposals, some Shrewsbury schools will benefit and others
will lose. Overall as a country, we still see the
extraordinary situation in which, on average, Shropshire
pupils can get as little as half that of inner-city
children. How can he justify parts of the United Kingdom
continuing to get almost double what we get in Shropshire?
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Mr Gibb
In Shropshire as a whole, school funding rises from £151.7
million to £153.2 million as a result of the national
funding formula based on the illustrative figures. That is
a rise of some 0.9%. In my hon. Friend’s constituency,
schools as a group will see an additional £100,000 of extra
funding.
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Given that small rural schools in East Sussex are set to
lose funding under the fairer funding formula, will the
Minister review the need for those maintained schools to
pay the apprenticeship levy, which adds to their costs,
especially as fewer than half of the stand-alone academies
pay that levy?
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Mr Gibb
The apprenticeship levy is an important policy, as my hon.
Friend will know. It is designed to ensure that we have the
skills that are needed for our economy. The levy can be
used to fund training and professional development in
schools, and we will provide schools with detailed
information on how the levy will work for them and how they
can make the most of available apprenticeships.
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(Slough) (Lab)
Does the help in funding for rural schools not represent
the opposite of addressing the need that I raised in a
recent debate—disappointingly, the Minister did not even
mention it when summing up the debate—for areas that have a
high influx of additional pupils during the school year? I
estimate that next year something like 600 school places in
Slough will get zero funding, because, despite his talking
about up-to-date deprivation numbers, he is not working his
funding formula on up-to-date pupil numbers.
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Mr Gibb
The formula does contain an element for growth. We also
responded to the representations on mobility made by the
right hon. Lady’s colleague, the right hon. Member for East
Ham (Stephen Timms). When pupils join a school part way
through the year, that will be factored in. I would have
expected her to welcome both those changes to the funding
formula.
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(Wythenshawe and Sale East)
(Lab)
The hon. Member for Shrewsbury and Atcham (Daniel
Kawczynski) had hastily to delete a tweet this week that
showed that the national debt had exploded on this
Government’s watch. Therefore, the sparsity formula, which
was to save rural schools everywhere, has become the
paucity formula. Should the Minister not tell the House
that the key issue facing schools up to 2020 is the £3
billion-worth of cuts coming down the line for every school
in the country?
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Mr Gibb
Funding is increasing to £42 billion by the end of this
spending review period. We are increasing the amount of
money allocated for sparsity from £15 million under the
current formula to £27 million. The hon. Gentleman talks
about debt, but, since 2010, we have had to face the
problem of tackling the historic budget deficit inherited
from the last Labour Government because of their poor
stewardship of the public finances. Tackling that debt and
that deficit has enabled us to have a strong economy with
growing employment and greater opportunities for young
people when they leave school.
Apprenticeships
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(Richmond (Yorks))
(Con)
9. What steps the Government are taking to encourage more
16 to 18-year-olds to take up apprenticeships. [908594]
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The Minister for Apprenticeships and Skills (Robert
Halfon)
My hon. Friend will be pleased to know that, in 2015-16,
131,400 under-19 apprentices climbed up the ladder of
opportunity to get the skills and jobs that they need for
the future. We are investing millions in supporting
providers and employers to employ apprentices. We also have
the Get In Go Far campaign, which is working incredibly
well, and we are investing £90 million in careers guidance,
including in the Careers and Enterprise Company.
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I thank my right hon. Friend for that statement of
progress. Does he agree that a UCAS system for
apprenticeships could improve the status of
apprenticeships, make it easier for businesses and students
to connect with each other, and end the classroom divide
between those applying to university and those applying for
technical education?
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I thank my hon. Friend for his work on the UCAS issue. He
is absolutely right. We are looking very hard at this, and
we announced it in our industrial strategy. We want to
ensure that we give technical education students and
apprentices clear information with a platform similar to
UCAS. We are looking at how we can ensure that it works to
help to address the skills deficit and to help the socially
disadvantaged.
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(Scunthorpe) (Lab)
Is it not time to place a duty on schools to allow colleges
and other providers of post-16 education, including
apprenticeships, access to pupils so that those pupils are
fully aware of the options available to them?
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As so often, the hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. I
recently visited degree apprentices at Gateshead College
whose own school refused them a visit in order to talk
about apprenticeships, skills and technical education. We
are doing a lot of work to ensure that careers guidance in
schools properly reflects the options available. We have
introduced legislation and we are looking to do more to
ensure that students are offered skills and
apprenticeships.
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(Hornchurch and
Upminster) (Con)
Would my right hon. Friend join me in congratulating
Havering College of Further and Higher Education on its
excellent five-week railway skills course from which 85% of
students are moving on to apprenticeships in an area where
there is a great skills shortage? Would he agree that a
five-week course is an ideal way of encouraging less
academic students to remain in education?
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I am delighted to see my hon. Friend in her place. Not only
do I offer my huge congratulations to Havering College; I
would be pleased to visit with my hon. Friend.
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(Blackpool South)
(Lab)
The Minister quoted the statistics for 2015-16, but the
proportion of apprenticeships for under 19-year-olds,
compared with those for older apprentices was basically
stagnant at just 26% compared with 25.2% the previous year:
only one in four of all apprenticeships. The latest
stats—for the first quarter—show that numbers for 16 to
18-year-olds are getting worse, with 58,190 compared with
63,200 the previous year, which is a drop of 8%. With the
head of engineering training provider JTL saying that
Government funding changes could cut its apprenticeships
for 16 to 18-year-old by two thirds, and thousands of
youngsters blocked from getting apprenticeships by being on
the treadmill of GCSE English and maths resits that only
one in four of them passes, where is the Government’s beef
for 16 to 18-year-olds, instead of motherhood and apple
pie?
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I am amazed by the hon. Gentleman’s question. He often does
not see the apprentice wood for the apprentice trees. We
now have the highest number of apprenticeships on record in
our island’s history at 899,000, with more than 780,000
apprenticeship starts since May 2015. We are investing
millions in ensuring that employers and providers hire
apprentices. We have a record to be proud of.
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Mr Speaker
We need to speed up.
Student Immigration
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(Kilmarnock and Loudoun)
(SNP)
10. What discussions she has had with the Home Secretary on
the Government’s student immigration policy. [908595]
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The Minister for Universities, Science, Research and
Innovation (Joseph Johnson)
Department for Education officials meet regularly with
their counterparts from the Home Office to discuss a range
of issues including student immigration policy. Let me be
clear that the Government value the contribution that
international students make to the UK’s excellent higher
education sector, both economically and culturally. That is
why we have no plans to limit the number of genuine
international students who can come here to study.
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If the Government really value international students, I
suggest they reappraise the need for a post-study work
visa, which would allow students to come here, integrate
into communities and bring value to their campuses and
communities. When will the Government revisit that?
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The UK has an excellent post-study work offer. Students can
switch into a number of other visa routes to take up work
after their studies. About 6,000 switched to a tier 2
skilled worker visa in 2015, and there is no cap on the
number who may make that switch.
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(Cheltenham) (Con)
Higher education is one of the United Kingdom’s greatest
exports, and the Government are promoting it brilliantly.
Do the Government think that, as we move forward
post-Brexit, we should look to take student numbers outside
the immigration figures?
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The key thing is that, whether or not they are in those
figures, there is no limit on the number of international
students who can come here to study. The UK is the best
place in the world to get a higher education, and we are
delighted that, for the last six years, over 170,000
international students have come to study in the UK.
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(Paisley and
Renfrewshire North) (SNP)
24. Recent UCAS figures show that the number of EU students
applying to Scottish universities has already fallen by 5%.
The University of the West of Scotland has a new global
reach strategy that aims to grow the number of
international students attending UWS. Will the Minister
explain to the university what it should do to achieve that
goal despite the Brexit barriers the Government are putting
in its way? [908609]
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The UK is immensely successful at attracting international
students. We are second in the world in terms of our market
share, behind only the United States. We continue to extend
a warm welcome, and we wish that more international
students would come.
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(Glasgow North West)
(SNP)
Scottish universities, of course, were not included in the
post-study work pilot. The Scottish Parliament’s Europe
committee has today published a report calling for Scotland
to have a differing immigration system; this is the third
parliamentary report calling for that. Will the Minister
now urge the Home Secretary to listen and include Scottish
institutions in the post-study work scheme?
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Scottish institutions are successful in attracting
international students, and they are also successful in
seeing those students switch into post-study work. It is
important to note that the number switching into work after
study is increasing: it was at 6,000 last year—up from
5,000 the year before and 4,000 the year before that.
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Being considered an international student post-Brexit will
affect whether EU students choose to come to the UK, and
that will have a major impact on university funding. What
discussion has the Minister had with the Home Secretary on
the immigration status of EU students post-Brexit?
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These questions will be considered in the context of the
broader discussions relating to our withdrawal from the
European Union.
Education Provision: Northamptonshire
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The Minister for School Standards (Mr Nick Gibb)
We are concerned that the quality of education in too many
Northamptonshire schools is not good enough, especially for
disadvantaged pupils. We are using new powers to tackle
inadequate schools and to move them into strong
multi-academy trusts. We are also working with the local
authority, teaching schools and academy trusts to ensure
that schools are receiving appropriate support to help them
improve.
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Mr Hollobone
Educational attainment in Northamptonshire, sadly, is still
below the national average. What is the single most
important thing the local education authority should be
doing to raise standards?
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Mr Gibb
I pay tribute to my hon. Friend for his work in seeking to
raise standards in Northamptonshire schools. In October,
together with hon. Friends representing Northamptonshire
constituencies, we met the director of children’s services
at Northamptonshire County Council to discuss academic
standards in Northamptonshire schools. That included
discussions about standards in phonics, which I would say
is the single most important issue; key stage 2 SATs in
reading and maths; GCSE results; and the EBacc. I have
taken a close interest in the schools in my hon. Friend’s
county, and we are meeting again in April to assess
progress.
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Mr (Wellingborough)
(Con)
Unfortunately, the Minister is absolutely right. Sir
Christopher Hatton school in my constituency is
outstanding, but we have two inadequate schools—Rushden and
the Wrenn—and the Minister will shortly meet me and the
chief executive of the Hatton Academies Trust. Does he
agree that local academy trusts also have an important role
to play in solving the problem with Northamptonshire’s
education?
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Mr Gibb
Yes, I do agree with my hon. Friend. Collaboration between
schools, particularly in local multi-academy trusts, is one
of the most effective ways of ensuring that we spread best
practice and that schools in a multi-academy trust help one
another to raise aspirations and the standard of academic
education our children receive.
Pupils from Disadvantaged Backgrounds
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(North Swindon)
(Con)
13. What steps the Government are taking to increase
educational opportunity for pupils from disadvantaged
backgrounds. [908598]
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The Minister for Vulnerable Children and Families (Edward
Timpson)
As my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State told the
House in December, increasing education opportunity for
disadvantaged pupils underpins our commitment to make sure
our country works for everyone. Through the pupil premium,
worth £2.5 billion this year, we are narrowing the gap
between disadvantaged pupils and their peers. In 2016-17,
over £8.8 million of this funding was allocated to schools
in Swindon.
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It was a great pleasure to welcome the School Standards
Minister to Swindon Academy—a school with a predominantly
deprived catchment area, a high proportion of free school
meals, and, crucially, surplus places. Its decision to
introduce a grammar scheme in conjunction with Marlborough
College has given every student, regardless of background,
an opportunity to opt into an academically rigorous
curriculum. Will the Minister share this best practice?
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My right hon. Friend the Minister for School Standards just
reminded me of how impressed he was on that visit by the
steps that that school is taking to provide its pupils with
a rigorous academic curriculum. By trusting school leaders
like those in Swindon, we are enabling them to use their
unparalleled knowledge of their pupils to create new,
tailor-made ways of ensuring that every child can
academically succeed.
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(Birmingham, Selly Oak)
(Lab)
17. With regard to disadvantage, the Government are about
to close Baverstock Academy in my constituency. They will
not say what that costs or where the pupils will go, and
will not explain the inaccurate travel and future demand
data. The Secretary of State will not even respond to my
request for a meeting, although I am told she has got time
for a photo op elsewhere in Birmingham, where she will not
be meeting Baverstock parents. Are you at all surprised, Mr
Speaker, that when it comes to disadvantage my constituents
have one word for Government education policy—betrayal?
[908602]
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As the hon. Gentleman will know, Baverstock Academy went
into special measures in September 2014. The Department
intervened swiftly to challenge the academy’s senior
leadership team, and monitored attainment and progress
closely. Throughout 2016, the regional schools commissioner
sought a new sponsor for the school, but in November 2016
the Ofsted inspector confirmed that the school remains in
special measures. The hon. Gentleman is right to continue
to be worried about the schools in his constituency: so are
we, and we will continue to do what we can to make sure
that we turn this around.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Mr Speaker
One last question—the voice of Luton North, Mr .
Sixth-form Education
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(Luton North)
(Lab)
14. What comparative assessment she has made of the
sixth-form education system in England and education
systems in other countries. [908599]
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The Minister for Apprenticeships and Skills (Robert
Halfon)
Education and training in England are widely respected, but
we are determined to make further improvements to make sure
that 16 to 19-year-olds are ready for the demands of the
workplace. We are reforming academic and technical
education for over-16s, and we are learning from the best
of international systems.
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Why are sixth-formers in England funded to receive only
half the tuition time and support provided to sixth-formers
in Shanghai, Singapore and other leading education systems?
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I am proud that we have equalised funding between
sixth-form colleges and further education colleges, and
that we have protected the base rate of spending for FE
students and will be spending £7 billion this year on
further education. We have funding pressures, as the hon.
Gentleman knows, but we are doing everything we can to
invest in our skills and education.
Topical Questions
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Mrs (South East Cornwall)
(Con)
T1. If she will make a statement on her departmental
responsibilities. [908576]
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The Secretary of State for Education (Justine Greening)
The recent release of school performance statistics confirmed
that the hard work of teachers and pupils across the country
is leading to higher standards in our schools. Last month I
announced a further six opportunity areas aimed at tackling
the challenges for young people from early years right
through to the world of work. When I announced the first lot
of opportunity areas in October, I also made it clear that
building a country for everyone means better options for the
more than half of our young people who do not choose to go to
university. That is why technical education is at the heart
of the industrial strategy that the Government published last
month. We are determined to create a gold-standard technical
route so that the young people who choose to pursue it can
get the skills that we, and our economy, need to succeed.
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Mrs Murray
I welcome the Government’s commitment to apprenticeships.
Lantoom Quarry in my constituency is a leading provider of
high-quality apprenticeships leading to permanent full-time
employment in many cases. Will my right hon. Friend assure me
that aligning further education and training policy with the
needs of employers remains a priority?
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I can give my hon. Friend that assurance. Indeed, putting the
needs of employers first is at the heart of our
apprenticeship reforms. That includes introducing
employer-designed standards that test whether an apprentice
has the skills, the behaviours and the knowledge that
employers need.
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Mrs (South Shields)
(Lab)
This Government allowed two local authorities rated “good”
for children’s services to be granted exemptions from
statutory guidance, even extending these exemptions when
there was no evidence of improvement. Ofsted has since rated
them both “inadequate”, finding that for too long children
have been left at risk and are suffering harm. Despite
growing evidence of the dangers of these opt-out practices,
the Secretary of State is determined to push through massive
deregulation in the Children and Social Work Bill, which will
allow local authorities to opt out of not just guidance but
vast swathes of primary and secondary child protection
legislation. Why does she think it is okay to experiment with
the lives of vulnerable children?
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The Minister for Vulnerable Children and Families (Edward
Timpson)
We had a healthy debate about the power to innovate in
Committee, but I am afraid the hon. Lady still fails to grasp
what we are trying to achieve. Local authorities and social
workers tell us that when well-intentioned legislation
prevents them from doing what is best for young people, they
want to be able to try new ways to ensure that the outcomes
for children improve. That is why a whole raft of
organisations, including the Children’s Society, have told us
that they welcome the Government’s commitment to innovation
in children’s social care and support the intention to allow
local authorities to test new ways of working in a
time-limited, safe, transparent and well-evaluated way. I
would have thought the hon. Lady would welcome that, rather
than trying to concoct difficult arguments about the way
forward that we want to take with the Bill. It is wrong, and
she should follow the path that the profession wants to take.
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(Yeovil) (Con)
T3. I welcome the recent proposal to re-weight the schools
national funding formula, which goes some way towards
redressing the historic injustice of underfunding in rural
schools in Somerset. Although some of the schools in my
constituency, such as Barwick and Buckland, are set to
receive about 20% more in two years’ time, other rural
primary schools such as Winsham seem to have been treated
very differently. Will my right hon. Friend meet me to review
these anomalies? [908578]
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The Minister for School Standards (Mr Nick Gibb)
I would, of course, be delighted to meet my hon. Friend to
discuss school funding in Yeovil. Indeed, so efficient are
our offices that that meeting is already in the diary for 27
February. I should remind him that in his constituency,
school funding rises by some £2.8 million under the new
national funding formula, and that 94% of the schools in his
constituency will see a rise in funding.
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(Birmingham, Yardley)
(Lab)
T5. In my constituency, 85% of children who attend an
independent nursery do not have access to a qualified early
years teacher. The proportion of our children in that
situation is one of the highest in England, and it means that
they are 10% less likely to be at the expected standards of
early development by the age of five. The Minister has said
that she wants to increase social mobility, so what effort is
she making to do that in Birmingham, Yardley? [908580]
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Education
(Caroline Dinenage)
The hon. Lady is absolutely right to point out that our early
years workforce is one of our greatest assets. We will
shortly be releasing a workforce strategy, which will outline
how we want to improve what already exists. We need to help
employers to attract, to retain and to develop their staff to
deliver the very highest quality of early years provision.
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Mr Speaker
Short questions and short answers, please.
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(Horsham) (Con)
T4. As part of the fair funding consultation, will the
Secretary of State consider establishing a minimum level of
funding per school? [908579]
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We have had representations from some low-funded authorities
about whether their schools need a de minimis level of
funding in circumstances in which few of their pupils bring
with them additional needs funding. We are looking at that
and all the other concerns that right hon. and hon. Members
have raised during the consultation process, which is why it
is an extended one of 14 weeks.
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(Manchester Central)
(Lab/Co-op)
T6. Following investigations by the Manchester Evening News,
two very serious allegations of financial mismanagement have
come to light in two multi-academy trusts that operate in my
constituency. One is £4.5 million in debt. In the other, lots
of money has gone missing. The Minister for School Standards
said earlier that the EFA does a good job of holding
multi-academy trusts to account, but what more can be done to
make sure that that money is recouped and those people are
held to account? [908581]
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It is important that we have strong governance for
multi-academy trusts, as the hon. Lady points out. I would
also say that we need equally strong governance for local
authority-maintained schools.
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(Harrow East) (Con)
T7. My right hon. Friend will be well aware that Harrow is
the most multiracial borough in the country. Can she explain
to the people of Harrow why every secondary school bar one
and every primary school in my borough will see a reduction
in expenditure under her plans? [908582]
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Mr Gibb
My hon. Friend will know that 22% of the schools in his
borough will see an increase in funding, and per-pupil
funding on average in Harrow remains high, at £4,792 per
pupil. That is higher than in many local authority areas
around the country.
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Mr Speaker
Of topical length, please, Mr .
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(Leeds North West)
(LD)
Leeds is reviewing its support for transport to school for
pupils with special educational needs and disabilities, and
there is a risk that people over-16 may not get such funding.
Will the Government commit to ensuring that all children in
such a situation in the country get the funding they need for
transport to school?
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The hon. Gentleman will know that during the past few years
we have been implementing the new special educational needs
system. It is embedding well in many parts of the country,
but there are still areas that we want to look at to make
sure that every child is benefiting from the changes. I am
happy to look at the issue that he raises and to meet him if
he so wishes, so that we can try to make some progress.
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(South Basildon and
East Thurrock) (Con)
T8. Following the focus provided by the recently launched
industrial strategy, will my right hon. Friend tell the House
what steps the Government are taking to ensure that every
child gets the kind of STEM—science, technology, engineering
and maths—education that they will need in the future to
access the undoubted opportunities that will exist? [908583]
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We have not only focused on maths and English, but we have in
particular made sure that girls in school are taking STEM
subjects like never before. That is absolutely vital if we
are to have the skills that British businesses need to help
us to be successful in the future. I am delighted to say that
A-level maths is now the most successful A-level, but we want
that progress to continue and to have more STEM graduates in
future years.
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(Newcastle upon Tyne
Central) (Lab)
Adult education can transform lives, address our skills gap
and address technology change, yet the number of adult
learners has fallen off a cliff and the industrial strategy
does not even mention it. Can the Secretary of State have a
word about that?
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The Minister for Apprenticeships and Skills (Robert
Halfon)
The hon. Lady will be pleased to know that by 2020 we will be
spending more on the adult education budget than at any time
in our island’s history. We are investing in skills, with
millions of pounds for the national colleges and the
institutes of technology; we are investing in
apprenticeships, with 377,000 over-19s in apprenticeships in
the past year; and we are investing in adult education—that
is exactly what we are doing.
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(Stevenage)
(Con)
T9. I am chairman of the all-party group on literacy. Today,
with the National Literacy Trust, we are announcing figures
showing that 86% of all English constituencies have at least
one ward with significant literacy problems. Does the
Minister agree that people not being able to read and write
is not just an economic issue, but one of social justice?
[908584]
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Mr Gibb
I share my hon. Friend’s view about the primacy of reading
and writing, which are fundamental to education and to social
justice. That is why ensuring that children are taught to
read using the method of systematic synthetic
phonics—evidence from this country and around the world shows
that it works—has been at the heart of our education reforms.
As a result, the proportion of six-year-olds reaching the
expected standard in the phonics check has risen from 58% in
2012 to 81% in 2016.
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(Bristol South) (Lab)
What does the Secretary of State say to my constituent
Catherine Foster, who received funding in April 2015 for a
health and social care diploma with a provider that has now
gone into administration? She has no access to her portfolio
and no qualification, but a mountain of debt. Will the
Secretary of State look into this case and meet me to help
Catherine and thousands of other students in this situation?
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I thank the hon. Lady for her question. I am very happy to
meet her. I know that the Skills Funding Agency is doing
everything possible to make sure that anyone affected by such
issues has alternative education provision. I have asked the
SFA to offer every possible assistance as well.
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(Taunton Deane) (Con)
T10. Will the Secretary of State provide me with an update on
when the performance tables for 2019 will be released, as it
is very important for schools in Taunton Deane to be aware of
them when advising year 9 pupils about which GCSEs to select?
[908585]
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right to highlight the
importance of this information. We are currently finalising
the details of the technical and applied qualifications that
will count in 2019 performance tables, and we will publish
the list as soon as possible.
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Dame (Doncaster
Central) (Lab)
Is the Secretary of State aware that the university technical
college bid in Doncaster is vital to improving skills and
increasing apprenticeships? Will she, without delay, give the
college the go-ahead, or meet the local chamber of commerce
and local authority to explain the delay?
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I have had a chance to look around a number of UTCs during my
time in this role, and many of them are producing an
outstanding education that is very different from the
education the young people who go to them might otherwise
have had. I am well aware that Doncaster wants a response in
relation to its UTC application—I very much welcome the
backing that the right hon. Lady has given it—and we will
confirm the decision shortly.
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(Bolton West) (Con)
Too many people leave school without achieving the results
they need, but is my right hon. Friend aware of the
incredible work done by the British Army at the Pirbright and
Catterick training camps in getting people who join those
establishments without the necessary grades up to the right
grade, and will he undertake to find out what can be learned
from those places?
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Mr Gibb
I thank my hon. Friend for bringing the work of the Army
training camps at Catterick and Pirbright to the attention of
the House. The Army has a strong track record of delivering
high-quality education and training. I would be delighted to
discuss these issues further with him.
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(Nottingham South)
(Lab)
Sir Michael Wilshaw recently urged the Government to tackle
the comparatively low standards in many northern and midlands
secondary schools, and Nottingham’s education improvement
board has identified teacher recruitment and retention as its
No. 1 priority. How can the Secretary of State honestly
believe that cutting the funding of every single school in my
constituency will help them attract the best teachers and so
raise standards among young people in some of our most
deprived communities?
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The Government have put huge amounts of funding into the
northern powerhouse strategy to help schools across the north
to lift their standards. Part of that relates to improving
teacher recruitment and retention. It is not just northern
schools where we want to see progress; we want to see
progress in midlands engine schools and—dare I say it—schools
in the east of England.
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