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am Nadine Dorries (in the Chair) Order. Only a few hon. Members
have put down their names to speak, but there are rather a lot
present. Interventions are welcome, but I will not...Request free trial
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Order. Only a few hon. Members have put down their
names to speak, but there are rather a lot present.
Interventions are welcome, but I will not tolerate
their being used as an opportunity to make a
speech.
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I beg to move,
That this House has considered funding for
maintained nursery schools.
It is a pleasure to be here under your
chairmanship, Ms Dorries. It may help if I say at
the outset that I do not intend to speak for long
and will take only a few interventions; otherwise I
shall be unfair to colleagues, many of whom want to
make speeches.
We are here because we fear for the future of
maintained nursery schools—the jewel in the crown
of early years education. Maintained nursery
schools have an outstanding record of providing for
the very youngest children; 60% of them are rated
outstanding by Ofsted, and 39% as good. That record
of excellence is equalled nowhere else in the
education sector. It is not anything like equalled
even in the early years sector, where only 17% of
other nurseries and preschools, and 13% of
childminders, are rated outstanding. One would
think that any Government would want to preserve
and even expand a system that achieves such a
degree of excellence, but unfortunately the reverse
is true. The Prime Minister told me last week that
she wants
“good-quality education at every…stage”—[Official
Report, 25 January 2017; Vol. 620, c. 285.]
However, when the Government started their
consultation on early years funding, it is fair to
say that it caused panic in the maintained nursery
sector.
The response to the consultation has done little to
allay the feeling of panic, because the Government
want to fund all providers equally. They tell us
that the average amount paid per hour for three and
four-year-olds will rise from £4.56 to £4.94, and
that no council will receive less than £4.30 an
hour, so that providers can be paid at least £4.
That would sound extremely reasonable if all
providers had to abide by the same rules and do the
same things, but they do not. That is the real
problem. Even with the transitional funding that
the Government have promised, one in 10 nursery
schools still think they will have to close by July
and 67% believe they will have to close by the end
of the transitional funding.
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I congratulate the hon. Lady on securing this
important debate. Warwick Nursery School and
Whitnash Nursery School in my constituency will
face a funding decrease under the proposals. Does
she agree that the Government should revisit those
proposals, so that such nurseries are not placed
under a disadvantage or, worse still, forced to
close?
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I agree absolutely, for reasons that I hope to set
out. Having just seen that every school in my area
will lose money under the Government’s so-called
fair funding formula, even though we were already
one of the lowest-funded authorities in the
country, I think that we should treat everything
with a fair degree of scepticism until we see the
basis on which all the funding is allocated.
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I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this
timely debate. We have a similar problem at the
Hillfields nursery in Coventry, whose funding is
similarly under threat. It has an excellent
achievement record; Ofsted has affirmed that. More
importantly, I agree that what is happening is
disproportionate through the country.
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I agree with my hon. Friend. The real problem is
demonstrated in the foreword by the Secretary of
State to the Government’s consultation response. It
displays astonishing ignorance for someone holding
her office, because she talks continually about
childcare. Childcare is not the same thing as early
years education, and Ministers must stop confusing
and conflating the two. Maintained nursery schools
provide early years education. They are schools and
must employ qualified teachers. They must have a
qualified head. Indeed, many of the headteachers in
the sector are highly qualified. More than 80% are
qualified at master’s degree level or above,
because their job is highly skilled.
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Unlike schools, they are not allowed to academise,
for example, or to form unions of different schools
that would allow them a centre of gravity that
might just enable them to get through the
difficulty.
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That is an interesting point, but not one that I
have heard from maintained nurseries, which value
their independence and their different way of
working, and want to keep that special atmosphere.
The problem, of course, is that they are funded not
as schools but through the early years formula,
which has been consistently cut by the Government.
Its various incarnations have had various names,
but the Library has produced figures showing that
the predecessor grants that were originally rolled
up into it would have been worth £2.79 billion in
2010. There was an immediate cut to £2.48 billion
and continued decreases and, based on our
indicative figures, the sum will be £1 billion by
2019-20.
The problem is that at the same time, the
Government have changed the way they fund local
authorities. Those authorities have the power to
fund nursery schools on a different basis from
other providers, but they do not have an obligation
to do so. They face a double whammy, because most
maintained nursery places—65% of them—are in the
most deprived areas. It is councils in those areas
that have faced enormous cuts in their budgets, so
that some are struggling even to fund statutory
services. It is no surprise that there is pressure
on maintained nurseries to close or amalgamate.
Maintained nursery schools provide outreach to
families, support to other providers, and initial
teacher training places. Nowhere else in the sector
does all that. Yet they achieve enormous success
with children from the most deprived families in
the country. Sandy Lane Nursery and Forest School
in my constituency serves, mostly, two wards,
Orford and Poplars and Hulme, although it takes
children from a wider area too. Those wards are
among the most deprived 30% in the country. In
Orford 33.7% of children are growing up in workless
families. In Poplars and Hulme the figure is 32.9%.
The fact that the nursery is rated outstanding in
those circumstances is a tribute to the skill and
expertise of the staff, but that is by no means
unusual. The Government should pay heed to the
words of a former chief inspector of schools, who
said:
“The only early education provision that is at
least as strong, or even stronger, in deprived
areas compared with wealthier areas is nursery
schools”.
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The hon. Lady is making a very good speech. The
evidence is certainly there, from health visitors
who see children at an early age, that targeted
interventions for deprived families, single mothers
and people in other situations that may interfere
with a child’s life chances make a real difference.
That is actually investing to save later on,
because of the reduced rates of family breakdown
and the improvement in a child’s life chances.
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The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. It is
interesting that there is a fair degree of
consensus on that across the House. The evidence is
there: if the Prime Minister really wants to
improve social mobility, she will stop fixating on
grammar schools and start investing in maintained
nursery schools. Even if I believed that there was
a test that could measure the innate ability of
11-year-olds—I certainly do not—as opposed to them
being tutored for that test, 11 is too late for
many children. They need intervention earlier on.
For example, the Ofsted report on Sandy Lane
Nursery and Forest School in my constituency is
clear that most children come to the school with
skills well below the level expected of their age
group. However, by the time they go on to
reception, the vast majority are achieving at the
right level for their age. Furthermore—one of the
teachers has tracked children’s progress through
primary school—they maintain those gains in future
years.
The fact that the school achieves that, while at
the same time catering for children with
disabilities and other special needs, and
while—unusually for Warrington, which is largely
white, British and monoglot—they have children
speaking eight different languages, is amazing. On
a recent visit there, I saw that all the children
learn to sign; they all learn Makaton, because
there are children there with communication
difficulties and the staff want them all to be
included.
Like most nursery schools, my local nursery also
caters for children with special needs and
disabilities. Some 49% of maintained nurseries are
attended by children with the most severe degree of
disabilities, 69% are attended by children with
moderate disabilities and 72% are attended by
children with mild disabilities. They get more
referrals from councils than other providers,
because they have the expertise. If nurseries
close, the Minister has to tell us where those
children will go. We already know that 42% of
parents of children with disabilities find
difficulty in accessing the early years provision
that they are entitled to.
Maintained nurseries actually do more than simply
cater for children with disabilities and special
needs—they also provide advice to other providers.
For example, a teacher at my local nursery
co-ordinates provision for nought to five-year-olds
with disabilities and special needs throughout the
borough. Again, that is common: 46% of our
maintained nurseries provide disability and special
needs support to the local authority; 43% provide
it to other maintained settings; and 47% provide it
to private and voluntary sector settings as well.
That outreach work, not only to families but to
others in the sector, is a vital part of maintained
nursery schools’ work.
Since the coalition Government took what I think
was the retrograde step of not requiring children’s
centres to employ a trained teacher, that expertise
is largely in maintained nurseries. Some 71% of
maintained nurseries support their local children’s
centre and 60% of them support private and
voluntary settings. In fact, in my area, the
maintained nursery, the children’s centre and the
private nursery were all built on the same site,
precisely to facilitate that exchange of expertise.
Because there is a real need to raise standards
across the early years sector, we ought to cherish
and facilitate that sharing of expertise.
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My hon. Friend is making a truly outstanding speech
in support of maintained nursery schools. We heard
reassurances from the Minister at the recent
meeting of the all-party group on nursery schools
and nursery classes, but my hon. Friend will be
aware that those assurances are insufficient given
the imminence of the threat to our maintained
nursery schools. Of the more than 400 nursery
schools, 67 think they will close by the summer. We
need urgent action, not just warm words for the
future.
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I could not agree more with my hon. Friend. The
lack of urgency from the Government worries all of
us who support the continuance of our maintained
nurseries.
Maintained nurseries do a lot more than I have
already described. They have regular contact with
families. Because they are trusted by families,
they can refer those in difficulty to other
services, such as domestic violence services or
English as a second language services for those who
do not speak English. That is vital in ensuring
that a child’s life chances are not damaged early
on.
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This is a timely and tremendous debate, because my
constituents are really worried. On the comment
made by my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester
Central (Lucy Powell), does my hon. Friend the
Member for Warrington North (Helen Jones) agree
that despite the Government’s wish to appear to be
supporting working families and caring for the
quality of early years education, they are trying
to do that on the cheap? That decimates any
remaining credibility they have on the issue. We
need them to do the right thing.
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I agree with my hon. Friend; I said in a previous
debate that there can be good early years provision
or there can be cheap early years provision—there
cannot be good, cheap early years provision. It
requires high ratios of staff to children and
properly trained staff. What sort of Government
would want to put such a high-achieving sector,
with such a wealth of expertise and such a record
in promoting social mobility, in jeopardy? This
Government, apparently. The Prime Minister’s
repeated assertions about social mobility will ring
hollow if maintained nurseries, which are the best
engine of social mobility, as proven by study after
study, start to close.
The Government need to look at this urgently. They
need to ensure that they get a grip, to stop
closures from coming this summer and to ensure the
future of our maintained nurseries. They need to
review the funding arrangements, and to recognise
the interaction with other council funding; so far,
they have not managed to do that. They cannot cut
and cut and expect the same services. They also
need to commit not only to interim funding, but to
properly funding our maintained nursery schools.
Maintained nursery schools have far greater duties
and obligations than other providers in the sector,
and are supporting many of those other providers.
What has consistently bedevilled early years
provision in this country is that we do not have
enough trained staff; most of the properly trained
staff we have are in maintained nursery schools,
and we would be very foolish to lose them. I can
never make up my mind whether Ministers simply do
not understand the difference between early
education and childcare, or whether they are trying
to disguise the fact that they have not properly
funded their decisions and commitments on
childcare, and so are taking money away from
maintained nurseries. That needs to stop now.
The Government need to take this seriously. If they
do not, the life chances of a whole generation of
children will be damaged in a way that cannot be
made up for later. The hon. Member for Central
Suffolk and North Ipswich (Dr Poulter) was right:
every teacher will agree that, with early
intervention, money is saved and problems are
avoided later on in the education system. The
Government need to understand that and do the best
they can for our youngest children. That, after
all, is the mark of a civilised society. The
Minister needs to make some commitments to that in
this debate.
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What a pleasure it is to serve under your
chairmanship, Ms Dorries. I congratulate the hon.
Member for Warrington North (Helen Jones) on
securing this important debate and on her speech;
she made some very important and relevant points,
many of which I have a considerable amount of
sympathy for. As a Government Member, rather than
an Opposition Member—I understand how the system
works—I do not agree with some of her points. I
would like to pick up one point immediately. I
thought that her comments on my hon. Friend the
Minister were a little unfair. My hon. Friend is
totally committed to this area and is doing a
tremendous amount of work, as I experienced at the
all-party group meeting last week, to find a
satisfactory solution to the situation.
The basic point of the hon. Lady’s speech was the
importance of maintained nurseries in our
constituencies. I could not disagree with that at
all; she is absolutely right. They play a critical
role, and some other nursery and primary schools do
not have the same focus. In my constituency of
Chelmsford we have two excellent maintained
nurseries: Tanglewood and Woodcroft. I was
fortunate to be invited to Tanglewood a few weeks
ago to see for myself the fantastic work done
there. The Minister will be as familiar as the hon.
Lady with the commitment and dedication of staff
and what they seek to achieve. As the hon. Lady
rightly said, more often than not they are dealing
with some very challenging and deprived families in
difficult circumstances. It is a joy to see the
commitment of staff and the help they give to
children who would not otherwise have such a start
in life.
Maybe I am naive, but I was told in no uncertain
terms that there are children at that nursery who
have no concept of what play is. I imagine most
hon. Members in this Chamber take it for granted
that every child knows how to play and that it
comes naturally, but for some it does not, because
their parents were not taught how to play or have
no concept of it. We get a full appreciation of the
challenges those children face when starting from
that base. These schools are so crucial because of
the help and the start in life they can offer
children who would not otherwise benefit.
The other thing I was particularly impressed by on
my visit—this certainly did not happen at my
school—was the number of members of staff who were
parents of children who had been at the school.
They were so impressed by what was going on that
they wanted to become involved. Rather than just
looking on from the outside, they wanted to
actually play a part. They started their training
and are now working there with the next generation
of children, providing help with the benefit of the
experience and knowledge they have as parents of
children who attended the school. It is so
important that we ensure that tradition continues.
I suspect that all of us, in our different ways,
have had contact with my hon. Friend the Minister
on these issues. We live in difficult times, and we
have to be careful that we get value for money and
do not waste taxpayers’ money. It is not an
enviable job, but it has to be done regardless of
who is in government. I have been impressed by my
hon. Friend’s commitment. It is quite clear that
she accepts and understands the role of these
schools and wants to find a meaningful solution
that will hopefully continue to provide a solution
beyond 2020, so that these schools can continue to
flourish and survive.
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I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his generosity
in giving way. He is making a heart-warming speech
about the emotional impact that nursery schools can
have. May I reiterate the point he makes? The
Minister came to our all-party group meeting last
week, and I want to put on the record that her
responses and the speech she gave at that meeting
were very well received by the hundreds of nursery
schools we had there. This debate is a good
follow-on to that meeting.
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I am extremely grateful to the hon. Lady and
particularly pleased that I gave way to her. All
too often, partisan issues blur a debate, but for
her to be so fair in her assessment of that meeting
and her dealings with the Minister are a refreshing
reflection of her chairmanship of that all-party
group.
Basically, we are all together in trying to find a
positive solution. My hon. Friend the Minister has
secured funding up until 2020, which I believe is
an important step forward as a short-term measure
to try to allay the fear of some of these schools
that they may face closure, the deadline for which
is, more often than not, July 2017. What my hon.
Friend has done should ensure that that does not
happen. I am also confident that as she continues
the consultations and assessments, a longer term
solution will be found, so that we do not have to
keep coming back to this issue or see the closure
of schools that provide such a vital service in all
our constituencies, whether they suffer from severe
deprivation across the board or, like my own, are
more fortunate. Constituencies such as mine do not
have deprivation across the board but still have
areas where there is a vital role to play and job
to be done by these schools, to help give every
child the best possible start in life.
These schools fill a gap in the provision of
nursery care and education for a targeted group who
so badly need help and who disproportionately
benefit. As the hon. Member for Warrington North
said in her compelling remarks at the beginning,
giving a child the best start in their early years
is a far better investment than any amount of money
thrown at an issue. They then get experience,
confidence building and everything associated with
that to be able to move forward in life. It
encourages and enhances their learning development,
social skills and interactive skills, which are so
crucial.
I am more confident that the Minister is committed
to ensuring that we come up with relevant
solutions. It is quite clear—from not only the
all-party group meeting, but the way in which she
has made herself available to all hon. Members who
want to feed in their concerns and viewpoints—that
she is prepared to listen and work to find a
solution that is beneficial to all. I am pleased
that we have this opportunity to share yet again
with the Minister our different experiences in the
variety of constituencies represented in the
Chamber today. I believe that this will be of
invaluable help to her as she continues her work to
find a resolution to the concerns and worries
bedevilling many people quite genuinely.
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I am very happy to serve under your chairmanship,
Ms Dorries. I want to make a small contribution to
this very important debate, because I passionately
believe that nursery schools are a vital
contributor to social mobility in this country.
There is ample evidence to show that maintained
nursery schools that offer high-quality early
education can have profound impacts on the start of
children’s lives. That is why it is not surprising
that nursery schools have been described as the
“jewel in the crown” of the education system.
However, the current Government are allowing the
crown to be tarnished by going down a route that
will place all nursery schools under threat. That
is especially true for children in some of the most
deprived communities in the country.
As was said at the last meeting of the all-party
parliamentary group on nursery schools and nursery
classes, which my hon. Friend the Member for
Manchester Central (Lucy Powell) so excellently
chairs, it was estimated in 2011 that 80% of
three-year-olds from the most deprived areas
attended a setting with a qualified early years
professional compared with just 50% in more
affluent areas. That was surely a good thing.
In my own constituency, Washington and Sunderland
West, there are four maintained nurseries: Hylton
Red House, Usworth Colliery, Oxclose and Pennywell
Early Years Centre. I understand that I am lucky
because there are four good maintained nursery
schools in my constituency, but that also shows the
demographics of my constituency. It must be pointed
out that Sunderland has one of the highest numbers
of these nurseries within our local authority
area—a total of nine.
The Government have partially redeemed themselves
with transitional arrangements. That is welcome, as
it will help to mitigate any problems that nursery
schools face due to the cuts in their funding.
However, it must be said that funding will still be
reduced and the transitional subsidy may not
continue—the Minister may tell us otherwise this
morning—after the two years are up.
In Sunderland, the baseline funding rate for three
and four-year-olds for 2016-17 stood at £5.38 per
hour, but through the early years national funding
formula that will decrease to £5.11 per hour. That
might not sound like much of a decrease, but it is
per hour and it is the difference between survival
and closure. As the Social Mobility Commission has
stated:
“It would be a travesty if funding reforms mean
that over time we lose more of the remaining
high-quality, maintained nursery schools.”
I could not agree with that more, and I hope that
the Minister agrees with it, too.
The concerns expressed have been echoed by staff
and parents at my local nursery schools—they have
all been in touch with me. Claire Nicholson, the
local headteacher of Pennywell Early Years Centre,
has told me that
“such a big percentage is going to be lost, that it
won’t allow us to be viable”.
Also, nearly 100 parents at Pennywell Early Years
Centre, in a letter they sent to me, have described
their disbelief and dismay at the policy and the
direction in which the Government are taking early
years education.
These schools are a proven and vital part of our
country’s strategy for improving social mobility,
which is something we desperately need to be doing
more of, not less. It is important that the
Government do all they can to give children the
best start in life. That is why many of us in this
House, and specifically in this Chamber today, got
into politics, and we will hold Ministers to
account every step of the way on this matter. I
urge the Minister not to squander the life chances
of any of the children in this country, especially
those in the most deprived communities. Our young
constituents do not deserve this, and I hope that
the Minister will reconsider for their sake.
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It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship,
Ms Dorries. I congratulate the hon. Member for
Warrington North (Helen Jones) on securing this
important debate. During her comments, she drew an
important distinction between childcare and nursery
education.
I fully support the words of my right hon. Friend
the Member for Chelmsford (Sir Simon Burns), who
summed up very well the value of these schools. He
also pointed out, rightly, that our hon. Friend the
Minister is a supporter of nursery education. I am
not here to seek to criticise her, because I know
that she is supportive, but I want to refer to one
particular school that serves my constituency and
is in the constituency of the hon. Member for Great
Grimsby (Melanie Onn)—Scartho Nursery School. I
will speak specifically about that school, but my
comments also relate to many schools across the
country. I am here to support the hon. Lady, who
will no doubt also highlight other issues.
Scartho Nursery School was actually under attack
when I was a councillor for Scartho ward. The hon.
Lady’s predecessor, , and I
fought a campaign to ensure that it stayed open. We
had the help of my now noble Friend , who
visited the school—were the Minister to speak to
him, I am sure that he would remember, although it
was 17 or 18 years ago. He was very impressed by
the school at the time.
The headteacher, Liz Jeffrey, who is a constituent
of mine, in a letter that the hon. Member for Great
Grimsby will also have received, opens by saying:
“We need your help!” She rightly points out that
Scartho Nursery School
“has been a beacon for Early Years Education”.
Indeed, the Grimsby Telegraph, on 26 April 2013,
had the headline “It’s another cracking Ofsted for
Scartho Nursery School”. That was the fourth
inspection in a row from which it had received the
“Excellent” accolade.
The question is how we ensure that funding
continues, and not just for Scartho Nursery, but
for similar schools up and down the country. We
need a clear statement. From my earlier remarks,
the Minister knows that I recognise her support for
this sort of school. However, it would be helpful
if, in summing up of the debate, she made it clear
that the Government do indeed to support maintained
nursery schools. If that is the case, a funding
formula to allow them to continue is clearly
essential.
May I refer again to the comments from the
headteacher of Scartho Nursery School? Liz Jeffrey
says that, like many similar schools, it
“prides itself on the fact that it caters only for
nursery aged children, providing them with the best
possible start to their education.”
It is that “best possible start” that we would want
for our children and the children in our
constituencies. As Mrs Jeffrey points out,
“It is a specialist setting”.
I have visited the school on many occasions and I
recognise its importance to people. I recognise how
the community values it and, most particularly, how
the parents value it. Generations of families
continue to go to that school, which is a
recommendation in itself.
Liz Jeffrey asks whether the Government are
“willing to risk losing the four hundred nursery
schools that have been referred to as ‘the jewel in
the education crown’.”
She says:
“We should be celebrating because at least 90% of
nursery schools have been judged by OFSTED to be
outstanding or good”.
As I said, Scartho itself has received the
“Excellent” accolade on a number of occasions.
I want to tease out from the Minister an absolute
commitment to the continuation of maintained
nursery schools. Will she also meet the hon. Member
for Great Grimsby and me, so that we can speak
specifically about Scartho? The hon. Lady will also
speak about Great Coates Village Nursery School,
which also serves a number of my constituents. If
the Minister would do that, it would be very
helpful. With that, I will conclude and look
forward to hearing a positive reply from the
Minister.
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It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship,
Ms Dorries.
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for
Warrington North (Helen Jones) on securing this
debate and excellently setting out the case in her
thoughtful comments. I run a great risk of
repeating some of them, so I will be careful not to
steal her thunder too much. There is such a danger
that serious and important domestic matters that
will have a significant effect on my constituents
and their children will be lost in the noise of
Brexit. I therefore welcome this debate and ask the
Minister to make sure that this important issue is
not ignored and that close attention is paid to the
impact of the implementation of the restructured
funding.
As my hon. Friend mentioned, 97% of
state-maintained nurseries are rated as good or
outstanding by Ofsted. Despite that amazing rating,
which many sectors would give their eye teeth for,
some 67% of such nurseries say that they will be
unsustainable once transitional funding provided by
the Government finishes at the end of this
Parliament. As mentioned by the hon. Member for
Cleethorpes (Martin Vickers), two of those 67% are
in my constituency—Scartho Nursery School and Great
Coates Village Nursery School.
I visited Scartho Nursery School last week and met
its headteacher and governors, the headteacher of
Great Coates, teachers, early years practitioners,
special educational needs staff and, of course, the
children. Some of the children had been in that
setting for only two or three weeks but they were
settled, happy, polite and engaged in their
learning through play. They all understood the
routine of the day such as when it was snack time
and when it was story time—the important parts of
the day—and were comfortable and confident within
that space. They were making friends and were
secure with the staff.
It was not that long ago, in April 2016, that a
debate was held—some of the Members in this room
attended it—secured by the late , on educational
attainment in Yorkshire and the Humber. I was keen
to contribute to the debate because of the
significant detriment in our region experienced by
our children. The links to poverty and attainment
were laid bare and commitments were made to take
this seriously. Yet we now know that in two years’
time transitional funding for one of the most
indicative changers of attainment and social
mobility in deprived areas will end. If, in the
case of my two nurseries, they are unable to raise
the £100,000-plus shortfall per annum, these
essential facilities in our communities will be
lost. They will be lost forever and the only ones
who will suffer will be our kids.
In Great Grimsby if we lose this provision, which
has around 200 children enrolled across the two
sites, we will experience a double whammy of loss
of provision and support. Over the past few years
we have seen the closure of Sure Start centres at
the heart of communities in favour of more
centralised family hubs. That is okay, we might
think, as private nurseries still offer excellent
nursery provision. Yes, there are many in my
constituency of Great Grimsby that parents love and
that also provide happy, safe environments. It is
great that parents have a choice of provision,
whether they choose a childminder, private nursery
or state nursery. However, through my discussions
last week, I discovered that some of those
nurseries have already decided that they will not
offer the additional hours up to 30. That is due to
the £4.30 per pupil per hour cost allocated for
those additional hours under the free childcare
pledge; the private nursery hourly rates are in
excess of that and they are not allowed to charge a
top-up so they will lose money. The headteacher of
Great Coates Nursery Village School told me that
she has already been approached by many parents
wanting to take up the 30-hours offer. If private
nurseries recognise that they are not able to
provide a service for that figure and it is not
sustainable, how do the Government expect the
state-maintained nurseries to do it?
As mentioned by my hon. Friend the Member for
Warrington North, it is important to raise the
issue of the hidden costs for state-maintained
nurseries, so I will repeat them. Nurseries remain
within the early years funding bracket and yet
legislation dictates that they operate within a
schools framework in terms of having to have a
headteacher and teachers including a staff member
with expertise in special educational needs. The
school I visited has children who will be eligible
for free school meals by the time they enter infant
school. Those two schools have a significant
percentage of children who will be eligible, but
they are not funded for free school meals. The
proposal for the extension of the 15-hour offer to
30 hours will not see any change to that, despite
some children then possibly being there for six
hours a day for five days a week. The guidance
issued by the Pre-School Learning Alliance is
explicit that funding is only for education or care
provision, not meals or drinks.
Some children at the nursery had evident special
educational needs, from suspected autism to
noticeable delays in speech development. Additional
funding is available to support those children, but
the length of time it takes for the children to
achieve a diagnosis means that the nurseries are
not receiving that much-needed funding and are
providing the additional support through the good
will of dedicated staff. What can the Minister do
to ensure that the referral of children for SEN
assessments at ages three and four is sped up?
I am beyond worried that those two excellent
facilities that are much loved in the community and
have served multiple generations of families, some
of whom have gone on to work—this is exactly the
same situation as the right hon. Member for
Chelmsford (Sir Simon Burns), who is no longer in
his place, mentioned—in those establishments where
their children were educated because they love them
so much, will be lost. That will leave those with
the greatest need without the right support. I
fundamentally disagree with the idea that those
learning establishments for our children who are at
the most exciting and rich period of development in
their lives should have to turn their attention
away from those children in order to fundraise to
cover substantial financial losses.
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I have heard some excellent speeches today but I
want to give particular credit to my hon. Friend
the Member for Warrington North (Helen Jones) for
her excellent speech.
Halton is the 27th most deprived borough in the
country, and its maintained nursery schools are
important not only to the general population but
for the difference they make for children from
deprived and poorer backgrounds. They can identify
at a very early age children who will struggle all
the way through school and the rest of their lives.
They are particularly good at that. My constituency
has three maintained nursery schools: Birchfield
Nursery School, Warrington Road Nursery School and
Ditton Nursery School. All of them have been in
existence in Widnes for 75 to 80 years to support
children’s early education and parents value them
greatly. The headteachers have told me that they
are extremely worried that the schools may not
exist for much longer if the national early years
funding formula goes ahead as planned. Early
Education forecasts that 67% of nurseries will be
unsustainable after transitional funding finishes.
The evidence is clear that the quality of early
education makes the most difference in raising
achievement for the most disadvantaged children.
That justifies such large Government investment in
early intervention. Quality is determined by the
qualifications of early years staff and teachers.
Nursery schools in Halton employ well-qualified and
highly experienced headteachers and assistant
headteachers, as well as taking on and mentoring
newly qualified teachers who work with them as
early years specialists. They also have a number of
staff members with early years degrees, a qualified
early years teacher and special educational needs
co-ordinators who are qualified and experienced
teachers who have offered support across other
settings and enabled transitions and planning to
take place to support the most vulnerable children.
Again, early intervention is crucial.
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for taking an
intervention and apologise, Ms Dorries, for not
being here at the start of the debate. My
constituency is very different to my hon. Friend’s,
but it has the Fields Children’s Centre, which I
have visited over many years. Does he agree that
the work being done in this area is about far more
than just childcare?
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My hon. Friend is right. A whole sphere of things
can make a difference. I will come back to that
later in my speech, but he makes a very good point.
Halton is one of the 25% of councils that will lose
money for early years in the revised formula. At
present, early years is a priority for Halton and
we feel there should be funding to support it—early
years has always been a priority in Halton. The
2015 Ofsted early years report endorses the
consistent evidence of other national research that
the most effective early education is provided by
such nursery schools. Over the past five years
maintained nursery schools in Halton have annually
increased the average points progress made by
children in all settings. We can demonstrate
outstanding progress for children with special
educational needs and disabilities, English as an
additional language and those children entering our
schools with low levels of personal, social and
emotional development—that is really
important—communication and speech.
The headteachers in my constituency believe
strongly that nursery schools are in jeopardy all
over the country because the qualifications of
staff and the leadership of headteachers mean that
they cost more than any other sort of nursery. The
current system of funding early education, or what
seems to be now called childcare, assumes that what
every nursery offers is broadly the same, but it is
not. They cannot be funded in the same way because
maintained and private provision have completely
different structures. I hope the Government will
understand and address that.
Nursery schools lead to the kind of outstanding
early years education we want for every child in
our country. They play a key role in supporting
training in the early years sector including work
placements, initial teacher training, qualified
teacher status and postgraduate certificate in
education placements. Nursery headteachers and
staff want to be supported to operate as system
leaders for the future to ensure that early years
professionals continue to have quality training and
development and are able to have a positive impact
on young children’s learning.
The recent consultation showed no awareness of the
reality of the funding crisis for maintained
nursery schools, or of their remit and impact.
Proposals should be founded upon research and a
commitment to developing early years leadership.
One headteacher told me:
“The consultation largely ignored social return on
investment and places no weighting on rewarding
those organisations mainly schools who have a
statutory and moral imperative to support their
communities.”
The proposed funding reform would effectively
eradicate such nurseries, losing knowledge
specialism and damaging the life chances of our
most vulnerable children. Nurseries want
reassurances from the Minister that the
transitional funding mentioned in the consultation
will get through to nursery schools and will be
sufficient to keep them running while we move
towards a new system and leadership model.
I recently asked my local authority, Halton Borough
Council, about its view of the situation. People
there told me that they will not know the final
figures until they receive the census information
in February. However, previous estimates based on
this year’s funding show that the three nursery
schools—even after applying the higher base rate
for the maintained nursery schools—will face a
shortfall for 2017-18. That takes into
consideration the additional protection that
nursery schools will receive. Halton Borough
Council can only provide the higher base rate for
one year, so the shortfall could rise in 2018-19 to
£130,000. When the transitional protection is
removed in two years, the shortfall could increase
to between £160,000 and £190,000. Although the
council is working with nursery schools on models
and options to reduce the cost, it will struggle to
save £130,000-plus, which might mean that it can no
longer afford to retain our nursery provision. That
is how serious the situation is in Halton, where
securing good-quality early years provision is a
particular challenge. If Halton ends up having to
look at closure, it will be a considerable loss.
Before I conclude, I want to quote the headteacher
at Ditton Nursery School, who told me:
“We have a higher base rate for next year (18-19)
plus transitional funding for the following year.
When this finishes we will have seen our individual
budgets cut by between £50,000-60,000 but we have
already cut staffing down to a minimum and although
looking at a federated model are not sure we will
be sustainable when additional funding
finishes…Nursery schools drive high quality
pedagogy across the sector. We provide outstanding
support for Special Educational needs and
disadvantaged children thus supporting their
learning chances later in education. We offer
partnership, innovation and system leadership
within the sector, and also support Initial Teacher
Training for Early Years. This would all be lost if
we closed. We need to ensure that we retain high
quality Early years staff to work with our
children—they deserve the best.”
I stress that—they deserve the best. The
headteacher continued:
“This is difficult when facing such uncertainty. We
want to retain quality staff to ensure the best
outcomes for our children.”
I recently visited Birchfield Nursery School and
talked to the headteacher there. I was so impressed
by what was going on; there was a range of support
for young people in education and play, and so on.
The right hon. Member for Chelmsford (Sir Simon
Burns) made a very important point. Nurseries have
seen an increase in the number of children who not
only do not know how to play, but perhaps more
surprisingly, are not able to speak at the age at
which they should be able to start speaking. All
the headteachers I spoke to said that. Even more
surprisingly, that is the situation not just among
poorer children, but across the sphere when it
comes to talking and play. They said that children
are told, “Get on and play with that,” and although
most parents are still fantastic at helping their
children to talk and at developing their education,
a growing number of parents are not. The lack of
parents talking and playing with their children is
becoming a major problem for some schools. Dealing
with that requires extra money and extra effort,
and the schools are then making the difference, not
some of the parents. Obviously they try and
encourage parents to play with and speak to the
children more—to have more conversations with
them—but it is sometimes an uphill struggle. That
is partly because of the nature of the society we
live in, but in this respect nurseries are making a
real difference to our children, particularly in
deprived areas. That intervention is so crucial to
helping children’s life chances. Maintained nursery
schools have that impact because of the nature of
teachers’ qualifications and experience, and
because of how they work together.
I therefore urge the Minister to reconsider the
plans. The real problem is that the Government are
cutting education and funding, and they need to
rethink that. She shakes her head, but she should
talk to the headteachers. They tell me what is
going on in their schools. This is not me making a
political point; it is what headteachers tell me,
so the Government need to think again about
funding. At the end of the day we cannot lose these
fantastic maintained nurseries—we must do all that
we can to keep them.
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I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Warrington
North (Helen Jones) for securing this timely,
much-needed debate. There is a huge
misunderstanding about the treasure we have in
maintained nurseries and the services they provide,
and I welcome the opportunity to talk specifically
about why the service should be offered
considerably more protection from the Government.
Only two weeks ago, I met the headteachers and
governors of the maintained nursery schools in
Bradford, four of which are in my constituency. We
talked about the funding pressure and challenges
that this vital service is facing and the
incredible early years education service that they
provide. Of the four maintained nursery schools in
Bradford West, all are considered good or
outstanding by Ofsted, and all offer unique and
exceptional early intervention for those most in
need. They are what the former Education Secretary
would no doubt have described as “a cluster of
excellence”, but they are all facing an uncertain
financial future due to the changes to Government
funding for nursery provision. Although they have
seen a short-term funding solution, it does not
feel like a settlement that truly appreciates the
high-quality services that they provide.
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Does the hon. Lady agree that an advantage of
maintained nurseries, such as Surbiton Children’s
Centre Nursery—the only one in my constituency—is
that they have the security that private nurseries,
often run by private tenants, do not have if the
landlord decides that they do not want them to
continue there, or if the rent goes up?
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Absolutely; I agree with the hon. Gentleman’s
point. As I was saying, the settlement does not
seem to recognise the high-quality services that
they provide or compensate for the unique
challenges that they face, and it will do little to
ensure their long-term sustainability.
Nursery schools are the one aspect of the education
system where the gap in attainment between the
poorest children and the rest is significantly
narrowed. The reason is that nursery schools are
staffed by qualified teachers and led by qualified
headteachers. They are schools, and although they
are not afforded all the same protections by the
Government as other schools, they represent the
very best provision in terms of teaching quality
and outcomes, and they play a vital role in social
mobility. The Government’s funding proposals will
have a devastating effect on such quality
provision. The funding formula will make it
impossible to pay for the qualified staffing teams
that have consistently delivered such outstanding
results in Bradford.
Let us be clear: we are talking about schools
staffed by teaching professionals that also provide
a hub of support for Bradford’s children’s centres
and sit at the heart of Bradford’s early years
provision. Those centres play an increasing role in
the early years sector, providing training and
support for other types of nursery provision, as
well as being the only service where the outcomes
for the poorest and most deprived children are on a
par with those for their more affluent
counterparts. That is the case not only when
compared with other forms of early years education,
but across the entire education system. Such
provision targets those who will struggle the most.
It works with those who face the most uncertainty
in their education and plays an innovative and
exceptional role in the development of those with
special educational needs and disability.
The question for the Government now is the same as
the one that the Social Mobility Foundation asked:
essentially, what do we want our early education to
be? The Government seem torn between genuine
development in early years and parental employment,
but those things do not need to be mutually
exclusive. I understand the concern that these
forms of education provider may be more expensive,
given that they are schools. They are also not
consistently distributed across the entire country,
with 64% clustered in the most deprived areas, but
that is not a reason to allow the demise of
expertise or to water down provision. They are
located in those areas because that is where they
add the most value and where they are essential.
All the evidence clearly demonstrates that
maintained nursery schools are one of the most
successful types of education provider, if not the
most successful. That alone should be enough of a
reason to give them the guarantees and support that
they need, not just to maintain their current
level, but to expand and to genuinely secure their
long-term future. As children move through these
providers, they not only develop in their
environment but maintain momentum through the rest
of their education.
I call on the Government to consider the wealth of
data now available on the early years funding
formula and to go back and try again to find a
better way to support the nursery school sector.
There is clear evidence that the early years
funding formula will take money away from nursery
school provision and that many nursery schools will
become unsustainable in the very near future. There
are many ways in which they could be guaranteed the
funding that they need, but the Government need to
go further and support the sector in its entirety,
bringing provision up to par with that for other
schooling. These are expert institutions that have
a genuine impact on social mobility, so I call on
the Minister to do everything she can to ensure
that the services they provide are not watered down
and can be allowed to flourish as the models of
excellence that they are.
In Bradford West, and in Bradford as a whole, we
face the significant challenges of complex
educational needs and deprived communities. When I
have met nursery heads, as my hon. Friends have
done, they have told me about the other services
that they provide in the community. They act as a
hub and a resource for their communities. With all
the funding cuts we have had across the sector,
with community centres closing down and other areas
being affected, nurseries are the last thing we can
afford to lose. They are the one hub that binds
communities together, keeps families together and
gives children a start. I really, really urge the
Minister to reconsider the package and to bring
something much more sustainable to the table.
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It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship,
Ms Dorries. I congratulate the hon. Member for
Warrington North (Helen Jones) on securing this
important debate. She said in her passionate and
informed opening speech that the record of
excellence for maintained nurseries has been
achieved nowhere else in the education system and
should be maintained.
The Government’s proposed changes and the loss of
transitional funding will affect nurseries
throughout England, which will be a great loss to
local communities. Maintained nurseries make the
difference between early years education and early
years caring very prominent. There is a real
difference—I know that from my experience as a
local authority councillor in Scotland. Nursery
education is the crème de la crème. Children need
looking after in their early years, but just
looking after them is not enough. If our economy is
to grow and thrive, we will need people who are
able to grow and thrive and to overcome their
disadvantaged backgrounds. The message that I have
heard clearly today is that it is maintained
nurseries that best make that happen.
The right hon. Member for Chelmsford (Sir Simon
Burns) did not really disagree much with the hon.
Member for Warrington North. He, too, was very
supportive of maintained nurseries, although he was
trying to support his Government at the same time.
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The hon. Lady is absolutely right. I speak as an
English MP about English maintained nursery
schools, and I support my hon. Friend the Minister
because of her commitment and the work she does to
navigate around the problem and find a meaningful
solution.
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I take refuge in my international observer status,
which I frequently refer to on the Select Committee
on Education. I look at things from a different
perspective, but I passionately want children
throughout the UK to have the best possible start.
The hon. Member for Washington and Sunderland West
(Mrs Hodgson) spoke about maintained nurseries as
the jewel in the crown of the education system. She
also made the point, which was echoed throughout
the Chamber, that there are more maintained
nurseries in deprived areas. That is undoubtedly a
good thing, because that is where they are needed.
If the United Kingdom is to move forward, we need
to encourage and help those who are most deprived.
Some of us here will not recognise the shocking
statistics about parents not reading to their
children or even talking to them, but there are
such parents, and they and their children are the
ones who need most help. That is why early years
education is so important.
The hon. Lady said that the end of the two-year
transitional arrangement could lead to a quite
significant number of closures of maintained
nurseries. She spoke about a drop in funding from
£5.38 to £5.11 per hour—a huge drop that could lead
to closures that I am sure no one in the Chamber
wants.
The hon. Member for Cleethorpes (Martin Vickers)
reinforced the difference between childcare and
early years education. He spoke eloquently and
passionately about Scartho Nursery School, which
typifies most maintained nursery schools. In fact,
it would be difficult to name any hon. Member who
has contributed to the debate without speaking
passionately about the need to maintain these
nurseries.
The hon. Member for Great Grimsby (Melanie Onn)
said that she did not want this debate to be lost
in the Brexit fog that has now descended on the
main Chamber. I could not agree more. At times like
this, we have to keep raising these issues and
pushing the Minister to listen carefully, change
her proposals and make a difference. Some nurseries
will not even be offering an additional 30 hours of
free provision because of the cost of
implementation.
The hon. Member for Halton (Derek Twigg), too, was
passionate about the excellent nurseries in his
constituency. He described the devastating impact
of the removal of transitional funding: the
expertise that has been built up in the maintained
nurseries in his area in supporting children with
special educational needs and disabilities could be
lost—and once these services are lost, it is very
difficult to get them back.
The hon. Member for Bradford West (Naz Shah) said
that nurseries are the part of the education system
that has the least gap between children. The
evidence on the subject, which the Scottish
Government have based a lot of their measures on,
shows that if we can get children into nurseries
and give them proper education early on, we can
carry it forward—the right hon. Member for
Chelmsford also mentioned that. I cannot overstate
the need for maintained nurseries with excellently
educated staff who reach out across the whole
sector.
This is not my debate or my area, but it is quite
useful to turn briefly to what is happening in
Scotland, as I do quite often. The political will
in Scotland is different. The First Minister has
made it her main priority to close the attainment
gap, and the Scottish Government believe that the
best way to do that is through transforming early
years education and giving all children the best
start in life.
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Order. Ms Fellows, could you begin to wind up so
that the other two Front Benchers have time to
speak?
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Yes. Let me just say that, as a former councillor,
I know how partnership nurseries work in
Scotland—the local authorities help to fund and
give their expertise to privately funded
nurseries—and perhaps the Minister would like to
think about that. What is needed is political will.
I urge her to take on board what she has heard this
morning and make the changes necessary to retain
maintained nurseries in England.
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It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship,
Ms Dorries. I congratulate my hon. Friend the
Member for Warrington North (Helen Jones) on
introducing the debate. I never fail to be
impressed by the passion she brings to her speeches
or by her campaigning zeal—I have campaigned with
her since before I became a Member.
We know that this debate is of great importance;
that is why we have had such a high turnout of
Members and such a high-quality debate. I join the
right hon. Member for Chelmsford (Sir Simon Burns)
in praising nursery staff throughout the country
for their commitment. He spoke more articulately
than I can about all the work that goes on.
The Minister will be aware that Members here know
the importance of maintained nurseries for sure,
and the role they play in our early years system.
They are invaluable. In fact, they are absolutely
irreplaceable. The hon. Member for Cleethorpes
(Martin Vickers) spoke about Scartho Nursery School
with such passion, because he knows that that sort
of provision cannot be replaced in any constituency
up and down the land if it is lost.
Maintained nurseries operate overwhelmingly in
disadvantaged areas and, as has been pointed out,
98% of them are rated “good” or “outstanding” by
Ofsted. If 98% of them are rated so highly, why do
we feel that they are suddenly being so undervalued
by the Government, and why do they face this
funding crisis? We are at the point now where there
is no turning back.
Research by the all-party parliamentary group on
nursery schools and nursery classes, which is
chaired by my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester
Central (Lucy Powell), who is no longer in her
place but does astonishingly good work in this
area, shows that dozens of nursery schools—I think
she said 67—look like they will be forced to close
by July this year. That is more than one in 10
nursery schools.
Almost 60% of those nurseries say that they will be
unsustainable once the Government withdraw
transitional funding support at the end of this
Parliament, as my hon. Friend the Member for Great
Grimsby (Melanie Onn) pointed out. She talked about
educational attainment across the north and
referred to the debate that secured about
Yorkshire and the Humber. However, we should
remember that in London 55% of kids on free school
meals get five good GCSEs. If we take the area from
the Mersey estuary to the Humber estuary, that
figure for kids on free school meals declines to
34%. The Government produced the Nick Weller report
about educational attainment in the north, but
unfortunately it is now just gathering dust on a
shelf somewhere—there is no evidence that any of
its recommendations have been implemented.
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I thank my hon. Friend for giving way, and I
apologise for not being able to be here for the
whole debate, because of a prior engagement.
However, I just feel so strongly about this issue
that I want to put on the record how well Ganneys
Meadow Nursery School in my constituency is doing.
It is located in one of the 20% most deprived
lower-level super output areas in the UK, but it
received three “outstanding” judgments in its last
three Ofsted reports. Nevertheless, it is really
struggling financially and anything that the
Minister can do to mitigate that situation would be
hugely appreciated.
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My hon. Friend makes a fantastic point, as she
defends the maintained nursery in her constituency.
It has three “outstanding” judgments, yet it is
under all that pressure. What sort of society are
we living in when that is happening to professional
staff, as well as to parents and their young
children?
With so many nursery schools likely to rely on the
transitional funding, this debate is of huge
importance. In her eloquent speech, my hon. Friend
the Member for Washington and Sunderland West (Mrs
Hodgson) said that the order of the day at the
moment is survival or closure for most of these
operations. So can the Minister tell us how the
transitional funding will be awarded, which nursery
schools will benefit, and how will she ensure that
it is used in a way that supports our nursery
schools up and down the land? I ask these questions
because providing transitional funding is not the
same as providing certainty. My hon. Friend the
Member for Bradford West (Naz Shah) also pointed
that out. We need long-term sustainability.
Right now, nursery schools across the country
support some of our most disadvantaged communities
and they are highly valued by parents, as my hon.
Friend the Member for Halton (Derek Twigg) said. He
was also absolutely bang on the money about the
quality of training provided in these nursery
schools. I remember being a PGCE—postgraduate
certificate in education—student and spending two,
three or four weeks at a nursery school, and I
understood that those nursery teachers knew with
95% accuracy what the kids at that nursery would
attain at their key stage 1 standard assessment
tests and at their key stage 2 SATs, because they
knew that what they could do was make the most
important intervention in a child’s life.
The Minister and her colleague, the Secretary of
State for Education, have said—rather
frequently—that the Government are investing a
record £6 billion in early years and childcare; we
will see if she comes to that figure today.
However, that assessment does not tell us the whole
story. For instance, it does nothing to consider
the impact of changes in the early years funding
formula, and nor does it consider the impact of the
savage cuts to local government funding that the
Minister’s party has pursued for nearly seven years
in government.
I will just turn to the situation in Scotland. The
hon. Member for Motherwell and Wishaw (Marion
Fellows) said, “Nursery education is the crème de
la crème”, and I agree with her that nursery
education is the best start in life. However, the
Scottish National party Government are taking £150
million a year out of Glasgow City Council’s
budget. How do we think that will impact on nursery
schools in Scotland? And that is after Glasgow
Labour had rebuilt every new school of the campus
at £600 million over the last 15 years. What do we
think those sorts of cuts will do for disadvantaged
children in Glasgow? Let us also be absolutely
clear that the SNP Government are failing to
inspect nursery schools, with inspection ratios
going up to years and years before the equivalent
of Ofsted goes in and inspects those schools. I am
afraid that the SNP Government have a record of
failure in Scotland.
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That is why they keep getting voted back in.
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That might be the case, as the hon. Lady suggests
by chuntering from a sedentary position, but we now
face a party that is like the Liberal Democrats of
this Parliament—everybody else is to blame, except
themselves. Having said that, we are to blame—all
Members—for this situation, because we are not
doing our research on what is actually going on
north of the border.
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Will the hon. Member take an intervention?
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You have done your slagging off.
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Many families are supported by nursery schools that
are supported by the Government. However, the
Government’s policy of tax-free childcare will do
nothing for many working parents. The total benefit
of tax-free childcare is £2,000, but that is only
available to a family that spends £10,000 a year on
childcare. It is quite a regressive tax and it does
not really do much for those in the most
disadvantaged communities, who rely on the
maintained nursery sector.
The Government have to come up with a plan to
protect some of the most valuable nursery schools
in our country. The Minister has seen the passion
that hon. Members across the Chamber have shown
today, and we know that we get the biggest bang for
our buck, educationally speaking, when it is spent
on nursery education. However, I fear that unless
the Minister comes up with a plan, her curriculum
vitae will show that many maintained nurseries
closed on her watch. I know personally that she
does not want that to happen. Nevertheless, the
risks are clear, and if she and the Government fail
to act, a generation of children will really lose
out.
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It is an enormous pleasure to serve under your
chairmanship, Ms Dorries. I, too, congratulate the
hon. Member for Warrington North (Helen Jones) on
securing this important debate, and indeed all the
hon. Members from different parties who have taken
part; they have spoken with great passion about
their own experience of maintained nursery schools.
It has been great to hear the support from across
the House for these valuable educational providers.
The issue of maintained nursery schools is of huge
importance. I am pleased to have the opportunity to
set out very clearly the Government’s position on
the valuable contribution that they can make, not
only to the lives of disadvantaged children, but to
the wider early years sector. I want to make it
very clear that the Government are committed to
exploring all options to address the issues that
nursery schools face, and we remain committed to
ensuring that nursery schools have a bright future
and can continue to meet the needs of the
communities they serve.
Nursery schools do indeed have an impressive
history. Central to the development of the very
early nurseries was the recognition that
disadvantaged children could thrive and overcome
their circumstances by attending nursery settings
that blended both care and education. Today that
approach is backed up by robust research. We know
that the first few years of a child’s life are
critical to shaping their future development. We
also know that high-quality pre-school education
reduces the effects of multiple disadvantage on
later attainment and progress in primary school. In
addition, we know that many maintained nursery
schools go beyond the bounds of their immediate
communities, using their pedagogical expertise to
help other providers improve the quality of their
provision.
In short, although maintained nursery schools are
attended by only 2.8% of the two, three and
four-year-old children who benefit from funded
early education places, they nevertheless make a
huge contribution to disadvantaged children and to
the early years sector as a whole. Like other
Members, I have seen that in my own constituency.
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If, as the Minister says, she understands and
values the contributions that maintained nursery
schools make, why did the Government create this
problem by going for a flat funding formula? She
says she is trying to put it right, but the problem
is entirely of the Government’s own making, is it
not?
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I think that the hon. Lady is being a little
narrow-minded. I was a mother under the previous
Labour Government and both my children were in
childcare. That Government presided over some of
the most expensive childcare in Europe. I was
literally working to pay for my childcare under her
stewardship. We can all talk about past mistakes.
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If the hon. Lady sits down, I will make a little
progress. [Interruption.]
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Order. Ms Jones, you may get a chance to wind up at
the end.
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I put it on record that I want to preserve and
promote the quality and expertise of maintained
nursery schools. Social mobility is a high priority
for the Government. That includes committing to the
task of spreading existing best practice in
high-quality early years provision across the whole
system. We want all children, whatever their
background and individual needs, to access the
high-quality early education they deserve, wherever
they come from. Nursery schools can play a valuable
role in spreading that quality throughout the early
years system, and many already do. I recently
visited Sheringham Nursery School in Newham and saw
at first hand the high-quality teaching and
excellent system leadership it was providing to
nurseries, private and voluntary providers and
childminders across the local area. Many Members
have already mentioned that issue.
Since I was appointed as Minister for early years
in July, I have had many positive—but some
challenging—conversations with nursery head
teachers, staff and other early years professionals
from across the country in an attempt to understand
the issues these schools face. I have had a healthy
flow of emails and letters from head teachers,
governors and MPs on the subject of nursery
schools. I really do understand the challenges they
face. I have a very valuable one in my
constituency, and I recognise the impressive
support such schools have in their communities.
As my right hon. Friend the Member for Chelmsford
(Sir Simon Burns) and the hon. Member for
Manchester Central (Lucy Powell), who is no longer
here, have mentioned, I spoke to the all-party
parliamentary group on nursery schools and nursery
classes last week. I was concerned by suggestions,
as misquoted by the Opposition spokesperson, that
45 maintained nursery schools thought they faced
closure. As a result, I asked my officials in the
Department for Education to contact Pen Green,
which is the maintained nursery that conducted the
survey. Because the survey was confidential, Pen
Green has gone to the relevant maintained nursery
schools to ask whether it can pass us their names.
I urge Members and those in the sector to speak to
us. I would like my officials to speak to every
single one of those 45 nurseries that think they
face imminent closure so that we can get to the
bottom of the issues.
It is clear that one of the key issues facing
nursery schools is funding, which is related to the
introduction of the early years national funding
formula. I want to be quite robust about this: the
Government are not making any cuts to early years
funding. In fact, we are spending more money on
this than any Government. By the end of this
Parliament, we will be spending £6 billion a year
on childcare. [Interruption.] We all know that some
of our Labour friends and colleagues live in a
fluffy bunny world of economics, where money grows
on trees and we can all spend what we want, but £6
billion a year of taxpayers’ money is more than any
Government have ever spent on this area. It
includes more than £300 million a year for a
significant uplift to our funding rates. For
example, Warrington is seeing a 19% increase, Great
Grimsby is seeing a 17% uplift and Manchester
Central is seeing an 18% increase. [Interruption.]
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Order. I do not ever tolerate in my debates
chunnering from the Back Benchers when anyone is
speaking. Please desist.
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Thank you, Ms Dorries. Members will also know that
I have committed supplementary funding for
maintained nursery schools of £55 million a year.
That is not for two years, as the hon. Member for
Washington and Sunderland West (Mrs Hodgson)
misquoted, but until at least the end of this
Parliament, so that current funding rates can be
maintained. It will be £56 million this year. I
cannot remember who it was, but one Opposition
Member said that we need to spend more money and
that we are doing it on the cheap. I would like to
take a moment to think about that figure: £6
billion a year is a huge amount and is taxpayers’
money, but it is the right amount and it reflects
the Government’s commitment to providing the
high-quality, affordable childcare that
hard-working parents need.
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I am intrigued by the Minister’s view on funding.
Why do head teachers write to me saying that they
have real concerns about massive funding cuts to
their budgets?
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I am more than happy to speak to the hon. Gentleman
and any concerned providers in his constituency. We
took a view to try to make the funding fairer
across the country. We have also set in place a 95%
pass-through rate, so that 95% of the money that
local authorities get will go on to providers, and
that will help. In some cases, local authorities
were keeping back up to 30% of the funding.
I need to make some progress. We know that for
historical reasons there were clearly unfair and
unjustifiable funding differences between areas and
between different types of providers. That is why
we introduced a fairer funding formula that
maximises the amount passed on to providers while
ensuring that all local authorities are adequately
funded to secure sufficient early education,
including that provided by maintained nursery
schools. I recognise that nursery schools have
costs over and above other providers because of
their structures and because of the nature of the
communities they serve. That is exactly why I
announced the additional £55 million a year for
local authorities to allow them to maintain
existing levels of maintained nursery school
funding at least until the end of this Parliament.
The Opposition spokesperson asked me how that money
will be distributed. It will go to the local
authorities, with the presumption that 100% of it
will be passed on to the maintained nursery
schools. It will not be part of the 95%.
The hon. Member for Great Grimsby (Melanie Onn)
asked about SEND funding. In our early years
national funding formula response, we said that
through legislation we are requiring local
authorities to set up a SEN inclusion fund and
publish the eligibility criteria and value of that
fund at the start of the year. It will be a local
decision on eligibility, but it will be made in
consultation with the local early years provider.
It should be focused on low levels and emerging
SEN, so that we do not have the issues with having
to wait so long to prove that children are
eligible.
Looking ahead, Members have asked me to share what
I see as my future priorities for nursery schools.
Those have developed out of the conversations and
discussions I have had with head teachers, staff
and early years experts, and they build on examples
of innovation and partnership working that many,
but not all, nursery schools currently demonstrate.
Nursery schools should focus on the needs of
disadvantaged children and children with special
educational needs and disabilities, but all of them
can drive early years system improvement by
providing pedagogical leadership. We can work in
partnership with other local childcare providers,
including childminders, to deliver better quality
and practice. We can maximise the use of their
skills, experience and resources to become more
sustainable.
As Members know, we have committed to consulting
openly on the future sustainability of nursery
schools. That is the right approach. Nursery
schools operate within a changing world and it is
important to recognise that it might not be the
case that nursery schools should provide more of
the same, and in the same way. We need to ensure
that they are focused on where they can have the
greatest impact. The landscape for the delivery of
children’s services is evolving. Partnership
working is the norm in many areas, but practice is
variable. Some local authorities, but not all, make
full use of their nursery schools by commissioning
services and asking them to co-ordinate or deliver
quality improvement for their areas. System
leadership of that sort makes very good use of
nursery schools’ expertise and experience, and I
want to encourage more of that.
However, some local authorities hardly engage with
their nursery schools, leaving them isolated rather
than drawing on the expertise and specialist
resources they offer. The schools landscape is
changing as more secondary and primary schools opt
to convert to academy status and join multi-academy
trusts. Moreover, all public bodies, including
schools, are grappling with tight budgets. That
will mean looking at how to deliver better value
for money and getting the balance right.
We have a lot to bear in mind as we consider the
future, but I think that we are coming from a
strong starting point, given the tremendous track
record nursery schools have in delivering rich
learning experiences and high-quality early
education to disadvantaged children, including
those with special educational needs and
disabilities. Our consultation will explore the
vision in more detail, including the best ways to
bring it about. I hope that those in the sector
will take part and share their experience, wisdom
and views with us once the consultation is
launched. They certainly have not been shy in
sharing those views with me so far. I appreciate
it, and I sincerely hope they will continue to be
honest and frank with me as we move forward
together. The steps I have outlined will ensure the
continuation of the important contribution that
nursery schools make to the early years sector and
the future opportunities of young children in
deprived areas.
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Ms Jones, would you like to wind up in the few
seconds left?
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I would. Briefly, I thank my colleagues for their
contributions to this debate. I am far from reassured
by what the Minister has said. She offered no
certainty to nursery schools and clearly does not
understand the problem.
Question put and agreed to.
Resolved,
That this House has considered funding for maintained
nursery schools.
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