Industrial Strategy Consultation 4.38 pm The Secretary
of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (Greg
Clark) This is a hugely important moment for the United
Kingdom—a moment when we must prepare a new strategy to earn a
prosperous living in the years ahead. Leaving the European Union
allows, and requires, Britain to make long-term decisions about our
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Industrial Strategy Consultation
4.38 pm
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The Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy (Greg Clark)
This is a hugely important moment for the United Kingdom—a
moment when we must prepare a new strategy to earn a
prosperous living in the years ahead. Leaving the European
Union allows, and requires, Britain to make long-term
decisions about our economic future. We will, of course, be
ambitious in the upcoming negotiations and will secure the
best possible access for firms to trade with, and operate
in, the European market. While the terms of trade with
other economies is important, so is the competitiveness of
our own economy. That is why the Government are committed
to a modern industrial strategy, whose objective is to
improve living standards and economic growth by increasing
productivity and driving growth across the whole country.
Today’s Green Paper is part of an open dialogue to develop
that strategy as the enduring foundation of an economy that
works for everyone.
We start from a position of considerable strength. We are
the fifth biggest economy in the world, despite having the
22nd highest population. We have achieved higher levels of
employment than ever before in our history —in fact, 2.7
million more than in 2010. We have businesses, research
institutions and cultural achievements at the very
forefront of global excellence. For all those reasons, we
attract investment and talented individuals from around the
world, but there are challenges that Britain must face up
to, now and in the years ahead.
The first challenge is to build on those strengths and
extend excellence into the future. British excellence in
key technologies, professions, research disciplines and
institutions provides us with crucial competitive
advantages, but we cannot take them for granted. If other
countries invest more in research and development and we do
not, we cannot expect to keep, let alone extend, our
technological lead in key sectors, or the world-beating
performance of our universities. The same goes for our
record as Europe’s leading destination for inward
investment, or our position as a centre of international
finance.
Our competitors are not standing still. They are upgrading
infrastructure networks and reforming systems of
governance, and therefore we too must strive for
improvement. In industrial sectors, from automotive and
aerospace to financial and professional services and the
creative industries, the UK has a global reputation, but
the competition for new investment is fierce and unending.
The conditions that have allowed UK investment destinations
to succeed include the availability of supportive research
programmes, relevant skills in local labour markets, and
capable supply chains. If our success is to continue, those
foundations must be maintained and strengthened.
The second challenge is to ensure that every place meets
its potential by working to close the gap between our
best-performing companies, industries, places and people
and those that are less productive. For all the global
excellence of the UK’s best companies, industries and
places, we have too many that lie too far behind the
leaders. That is why, on average, workers in France,
Germany and the United States produce about as much in four
days as UK workers do in five. It is also why, despite
having the most prosperous local economy in northern
Europe—in central London—we also have 12 of the 20 poorest
among our closest neighbours. We must address those long
“tails” of underperformance if we are to build a strong
economy and ensure sustainable growth in living standards.
To do so will provide a huge opportunity for the whole
nation to benefit from improved productivity—that is to
say, earning power—in all parts of the country.
The third challenge is to make the UK one of the most
competitive places in the world to start or grow a
business. A fatal flaw of 1970s-style industrial strategies
was their dominant focus on existing industries and the
companies within them—and then mostly the biggest firms.
Too often, they became strategies of incumbency. It is
worth noting that many of the most important companies in
the world today did not even exist 25 years ago. Unlike
those past strategies, our industrial strategy must be
about creating the right conditions for new and growing
enterprise to thrive, not about protecting the position of
incumbents.
In order to meet those challenges, we have identified 10
pillars around which the strategy is structured: that is,
10 areas of action to drive growth right across the economy
and in every part of the country. They are to invest in
science, research and innovation; to develop our skills
further; to upgrade our infrastructure; to support
businesses and help them to start and grow; to improve
public procurement; to encourage trade and investment; to
deliver affordable energy and clean growth; to cultivate
world-leading sectors; to drive growth across all parts of
the country; and to create the right institutions to bring
together sectors and places.
In all those areas, the Government are making strategic
decisions to keep British business on the front foot. For
instance, we have given the go-ahead for major upgrades to
our infrastructure, such as Hinkley Point C, Heathrow and
High Speed 2, and, in the autumn statement, for the biggest
increase in research and development spending since 1979.
In conjunction with today’s Green Paper, we are launching a
range of further measures. They include: a new approach to
enabling existing and emerging sectors to grow through
sector deals, with reviews taking place regarding life
sciences, ultra-low emission vehicles, industrial
digitalisation, nuclear and the creative industries;
deciding on the priority challenges and technologies for
the new Industrial Strategy Challenge Fund; and an overhaul
of technical education, including £170 million of capital
funding to set up new institutes of technology to deliver
education in science, technology, engineering and
mathematical subjects.
In a world containing uncertainty, public policy should aim
to be a countervailing force for stability, not an
additional source of unpredictability. So our aim is to
establish an industrial strategy for the long-term—to
provide a policy framework against which major public and
private sector investment decisions can be made with
confidence. It is therefore vital that the full development
of our industrial strategy should take place with—and not
just for—British enterprise. The full involvement of
innovators, investors, job creators, workers and consumers
in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland is the
only basis on which we can produce an enduring programme of
action. That is why this is a Green Paper —a set of
proposals for discussion and consideration, and an
invitation to all to contribute collaboratively to their
development. I commend this statement to the House.
4.46 pm
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(Norwich South)
(Lab)
I thank the Secretary of State for advance sight of his
statement, on this occasion.
Today would be a momentous day if it was indeed the day
that the Conservative party finally broke free from the
free-market fundamentalism that has dogged it, and the
country, for decades. Will the Secretary of State tell us
whether the “new, active” role for the state means that the
Government are abandoning the approach of the last Prime
Minister and Chancellor—and of the Secretary of State’s own
predecessor, who even banned the term “industrial strategy”
from the previous Department? If so, I will make it clear
at the outset that we welcome that, alongside the good
intentions set out in today’s Green Paper. The question is
whether the details will live up to them.
For example, action on skills will be widely welcomed,
given the challenges presented by automation and the pace
of technological challenge and change, but this Government
have already cut adult education by over £1 billion. Can
the Secretary of State explain how £170 million of one-off
capital spending can even begin to close the skills gap?
Nor will the Government themselves be equipped to support
an industrial strategy if the Secretary of State’s
predecessor’s cuts are implemented. Can he confirm that the
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills 2020 project
has now been thrown in the bin, along with the rest of his
predecessor’s legacy?
The Secretary of State rightly sets the goal of developing
a competitive edge in the industries of the future, but how
does he reconcile this with his Government’s plan to
privatise the UK Green Investment Bank? If the Secretary of
State is serious about tackling our productivity crisis,
will he go beyond piecemeal offers and finally bring
investment in R and D and infrastructure into line with the
OECD average? Will the Secretary of State promise a
fundamental rethink of business rates, which many
businesses say would help them much more than any other
single measure? Does the Secretary of State agree that a
successful industrial strategy must include partnership and
co-operation with the workforce? Yet the Green Paper does
not mention trade unions once; surely now is the time to
promise that the toxic Trade Union Act 2016 will be
repealed.
Steel is a critical sector for our future economy, but it
is mentioned only once in the Green Paper. Will the
Secretary of State commit to implementing the
recommendations on procurement and supply chains contained
in the all-party group on steel and metal related
industries report out today?
We cannot limit our focus to high-tech manufacturing. An
industrial strategy that narrows its focus to a few chosen
sectors will let down the majority of businesses in this
country and the people they employ. So can the Secretary of
State tell us what this industrial strategy will do for
small and medium-sized enterprises, who are huge employers,
and for financial services, which are our main exporters,
as well as for foundation industries, or for the retail
outlets that shape our high streets up and down the
country?
Finally, there is a glaring inconsistency between the noble
aims of this Green Paper and the threats made by the Prime
Minister to turn Britain into an offshore tax haven if she
fails in her Brexit negotiations. Until now, the industrial
strategy has seemingly consisted of one deal, made in
secret, with Nissan. If the Nissan deal did not last six
months, how can businesses be confident of the other
commitments in this Green Paper?
It is often said, correctly, that an industrial strategy is
a long-term project and that, if it is to work, it must
outlast particular Governments. With this in mind, I can
pledge our support for its broad aims from this side of the
Chamber, but I feel compelled to ask whether the Secretary
of State can count on the same support from his own side.
When we previously debated the industrial strategy here,
one of his own hon. Friends said that they had two problems
with it: one was “industrial”, the other was “strategy”. I
hope that he faces down such attitudes, because now is not
the time for half measures. The BBC reported this morning
that the Government wished to be in the driving seat but
not have two hands on the wheel. I know that Conservative
Members do not much like safety legislation, but that is
not an approach I would recommend, especially if the
Government keep making U-turns. If the Secretary of State
finds himself isolated in the coming months, my party will
be happy to help. We, too, are ambitious for a proper
industrial strategy, but it will only succeed if the means
match the ends.
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It is true that an industrial strategy wants to help all
parts of the United Kingdom, and I look forward to
engagement with colleagues from all parts of the House who
wish to represent the views of their constituents. I am
relieved that the hon. Gentleman has given his grudging
support for this statement, given that the last time he
appeared at the Dispatch Box, he said:
“Is it simply a case of ‘public good, private bad’? That is
what we think on the Opposition Benches”.—[Official Report,
11 January 2017; Vol. 619, c. 319.]
That would send a disastrous signal to investors in this
country, and I am pleased to be on the other side of that
argument.
The hon. Gentleman asked a number of questions. Our
commitment to transforming technical education has been
widely welcomed by the business community up and down the
country today. Also, it is highly unusual for a Green Paper
to commit any funds. This is about the consultation on the
direction, and the fact that the Chancellor has announced
£170 million for new institutes of technology is a great
step forward. The hon. Gentleman asked about increasing the
level of research and development. He might have missed
what I said about the Chancellor having committed to the
biggest increase in research and development since 1979. I
recall that the period since then has included several
years of a Labour Government, so by implication this is a
bigger increase than any that took place during Labour’s 13
years in office. He also asked about business rates. We are
legislating this very afternoon to introduce 100% retention
of business rates by local councils so that the interests
of local businesses and councils can be aligned.
The hon. Gentleman asked about the workforce. I was clear
in my statement that the consultation would involve
employees as well, and I am looking forward to a roundtable
with the TUC and its member organisations. On steel, he
will see in the Green Paper an approach to sector deals. I
have already met the chief executives of the steel
companies and I am about to meet representatives of the
trade unions again. I look forward to that being one of the
deals that is being put forward.
The hon. Gentleman asked about involving small businesses.
The chairman of the Federation of Small Businesses has said
today:
“FSB has appreciated being part of the discussions with the
business secretary…to help shape the Industrial Strategy.”
He said that the proposals
“fit well with the UK small business community.”
As far as the hon. Gentleman’s position on the fiscal
arithmetic goes, he should reflect on the fact that the
first foundation of any credible industrial strategy is
confidence in the public finances, which were left in such
a disastrous state during the time that Labour was in
government. The hon. Gentleman made a point about unanimity
of purpose. We are having a consultation on the industrial
strategy, but I understand from reports in recent days that
he is having a consultation with himself about whether he
can support his own party’s position on triggering article
50. We will be looking forward to the responses to our
consultation from all parts of the House as we form a
strategy for the years ahead.
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Mr (Tatton) (Con)
I congratulate my right hon. Friend on the intelligent
approach set out in the Green Paper, building on what has
been achieved over the past six years but taking it much
further in skills, science and, in particular, the northern
powerhouse.
The university sector is a jewel in the British economy’s
crown. The Higher Education and Research Bill will open up
the sector to new entrants, just as it was opened up in the
19th and 20th centuries through the arrival of London
University and the red-brick universities. The Bill now
faces significant opposition in the House of Lords from
people who represent the existing players in the sector.
Will my right hon. Friend reassure me that he will see off
that opposition?
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My right hon. Friend will see in the approach we are
setting out a vigorous continuation of many of the
measures, such as the northern powerhouse, that he
championed in his time in government that are making such a
big difference in the north and other parts of the country.
I can confirm that with the Minister for Universities,
Science, Research and Innovation, my hon. Friend the Member
for Orpington (Joseph Johnson), and colleagues in the House
of Lords we will drive the reforms that have proved so
successful in the past when expanding the institutions that
contribute to our excellence in higher education. The
standard and standing of higher education in this country
has never been higher, which is a reflection of the
soundness of the policies that have been pursued in recent
years.
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(Aberdeen South)
(SNP)
I give this proposal a cautious welcome. It is honest in
some ways in its reflection of the state of the economy. In
many ways it is brutally honest about some problems,
including regional disparity and productivity. Likewise, it
recognises some successes, such as the automotive and
aviation sectors and, on page 90, Aberdeen as an oil and
gas hub. The problems are not new, so how will the
Secretary of State ensure that the same mistakes are not
repeated? How will he ensure that existing industries are
not sacrificed in the quest to support new ones?
Will the right hon. Gentleman confirm that the allocation
of new research and development money will be in addition
to anything that would have come from the European Union
and that he will provide long-term commitments to match EU
funding? How much of that R and D spend will be outwith
London and south-east England? Imagine how much worse
regional disparities would have been without EU structural
funds? Will he commit to long-term replacements for those
funds?
On renewables and carbon capture and storage, the right
hon. Gentleman will be unsurprised that I am a little
disappointed by the lack of ambition in an industry that
will be worth hundreds of billions, if not trillions, of
dollars in the near future. Will he consider a sectoral
deal for renewables? If so, will he work with the Scottish
Government on how that could be done in Scotland? Access to
finance is identified as a problem, and I share the
concerns about the green investment bank. It is
short-sighted to sell it off when this key sector needs
access to funding and when the bank is the perfect vehicle
for that.
How will the consultation process work with the devolved
Governments? However good this industrial strategy may be,
we must accept that the biggest threat to the economies of
both Scotland and the UK is lack of access to the single
market and to skilled people that comes through our EU
membership. Will the right hon. Gentleman seriously
consider the Scottish Government’s plan that would see
Scotland maintain its membership of the European single
market?
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his thoughtful remarks. I am
impressed that he has reached page 90 already, which shows
his diligence. He says that we are brutally honest, but if
we are to look forward and have an industrial strategy that
reflects the challenges we face, we need to be clear-eyed.
On technical education levels and the imbalances, some
areas are prosperous and some can catch up, so it is right
to be ambitious in that.
The research and development money that the Chancellor
announced in the autumn statement is separate from whatever
might be decided on the European funds. It was
independently granted and is available to universities and
research institutions. The consultation on how that money
is spent is part of the consultation on this exercise, and
the money is for research and development. One of the
points we make is that we have often been excellent at
producing brilliant new ideas but less successful at
commercialising them. Pushing further on how we translate
good ideas into practice is an important feature of
addressing that.
The hon. Gentleman mentions renewables, which of course are
important in Scotland. The emissions reduction plan, which
is currently being prepared, will particularly address that
but, on the green economy, a chapter of the Green Paper has
a big commitment to doing what we can to make sure that we
obtain industrial advantage from the investments we are
making in green technology.
Finally, the hon. Gentleman says that the biggest threat to
the economy is the exit from the European Union. The United
Kingdom has been very successful in recent years, and I
would say that the biggest threat to that is if the
successful alliance of our nations in the United Kingdom
were broken up by the independence of Scotland.
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(Devizes) (Con)
There is so much to welcome in this very thoughtful report,
and I congratulate my right hon. Friend and his team on
delivering it. Will he say a little more about how the
Government’s unprecedented investment in infrastructure
will deliver export growth? I am sure he will not be
surprised, but he may be disappointed, to know that our
export potential, particularly from our rail industry, is
far outstripped by that of our neighbours in continental
Europe. We are spending a lot of money. How can we turn
that money into exports and jobs?
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From her experience in the Department for Transport, my
hon. Friend knows how important it is to make connections
between places—it is an important means of underpinning
growth. She will be aware that, through the national
infrastructure fund, funding will rise by 60% from this
year to 2022, which is a huge investment, and an
appropriate one to make sure that the quality of our
infrastructure keeps pace with the investments that our
competitors are making.
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Mr (Hartlepool) (Lab)
I warmly welcome and support the Government’s endorsement
of a long-term, interventionist industrial strategy. I hope
the strategy will play an active role in ensuring that
workers are upskilled and receive higher wages and that
British firms can scale up and become more enterprising,
more competitive and more productive.
What is different this time from previous iterations of
industrial strategy, including industrial strategies for
which he was a Cabinet Minister? What will be the
short-term, medium-term and long-term metrics by which the
success or failure of this industrial strategy will be
evaluated?
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I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his welcome. He
says that it is an interventionist strategy, and it is true
that the Government should be engaged with the economy to
make sure that we have the right conditions for success,
but I also point out that openness for competition to have
its full run in our economy is vital to our success. As
Chairman of the Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy
Committee, he will reflect that point. I look forward to
the Select Committee’s inquiry on the strategy.
The hon. Gentleman asks how the strategy is different from
its predecessors, and I would suggest two ways in
particular. First, as he will have observed, many of the
themes that I have discussed are not about investing in
particular companies or subsidising particular businesses
but are cross-cutting. The themes are horizontal in that
they look at skills right across the economy,
infrastructure —looking at the importance of place and the
differences between places—science and research. These are
cross-economy measures, which is a different approach from
those taken in the past.
Secondly, a lot of efforts in previous industrial policy
were correctly about innovation, but they concentrated just
on new discoveries and new inventions. That is important—as
I have made clear, we need to extend our excellence into
the future—but there is a big opportunity to make
differences for the companies that follow and in the
regions that are not competing at the top level. If we can
really increase productivity there, we can make a big
difference to the whole economy. That has not been the
focus of previous industrial strategies.
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Sir (Mid Sussex)
(Con)
May I congratulate my right hon. Friend on a bold and
ambitious statement and give him a unique,
once-in-a-lifetime chance to get his new training plans for
technical colleges off to a tremendous start? In Haywards
Heath in my constituency there is a sixth-form college that
was bankrupted by Labour’s ferocious education cuts and by
corporate governance that would have done credit to Al
Capone. It will shortly be empty, and would be a perfect
starting place for one of his excellent new colleges.
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I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for that early pitch.
He highlights the important point that we should have
throughout the country a better and more reliable ability
to provide technical education to those who can benefit
from it. Many jobs are available in West Sussex but are not
accessible for people who do not have the right skills. Our
plan will help to solve that.
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(Manchester Central)
(Lab/Co-op)
I welcome the Government finally accepting that we have a
skills challenge in this country, particularly with the
long tail of under-achievement. How does the Secretary of
State square that with the huge cuts faced by further and
adult education over the past six and a half years of his
Government? Why is there not more emphasis on what can be
done to close the productivity gap by investing in
childcare and getting more women back to work, which is not
even mentioned in his report?
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I shall say two things to the hon. Lady. First, as I said
to the hon. Member for Norwich South (Clive Lewis), the
Conservative-led Government’s task in restoring sanity to
the public finances was absolutely foundational to a
successful industrial strategy. Secondly, she will be aware
that this Government have been particularly innovative in
extending childcare to many people who previously were not
able to access it. That is an important foundation on which
we build.
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(Surrey Heath)
(Con)
Does my right hon. Friend agree that many of the highly
impressive propositions on technical education in the Green
Paper owe their origin to the work undertaken by our hon.
Friend the Member for Grantham and Stamford (Nick Boles)
when he drew up the skills plan that was laid before the
House in July? Does he further agree that the success of
specialist maths schools at King’s College London and the
University of Exeter is an example that other universities
should follow if they hope to hang on to their current high
level of tuition fees?
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I endorse very warmly the due acknowledgement that my right
hon. Friend makes to our hon. Friend the Member for
Grantham and Stamford (Nick Boles), who made a massive
contribution. In fact, I texted him yesterday to flag up
the fact that many of the proposals in the Green Paper owe
their origin to him. We wish him well in his recovery.
I commend very warmly the examples of the maths schools
mentioned by my right hon. Friend. To expand maths schools
throughout the country so that people with a real flair for
maths can be pushed further and be equipped to go even
higher in their ambitions is a fantastic thing. Whether in
Exeter or London, that is a good template for others to
follow.
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(Gedling) (Lab)
My hon. Friend the Member for Manchester Central (Lucy
Powell) pointed out that one of the things that have held
back industrial strategies in this country for decades has
been the skills gap. There is mention in the Green Paper of
an overhaul of technical and vocational education; what
this country needs is a cultural change—a shift to valuing
technical, vocational and skills education as highly as
academic education. Until that changes, the Secretary of
State will not achieve what he wants, however much we all
want him to.
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I agree with the hon. Gentleman’s analysis. I hope he will
join us in making that change and approach this matter with
a spirit of optimism and determination to make the change
that the country needs.
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(Derby North)
(Con)
I welcome this common-sense statement. Does my right hon.
Friend agree that the pillars will provide the ideal
opportunity to enable regions to use their assets to the
best effect for a more balanced UK economy, and to further
grow the midlands engine for growth?
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I do agree with my hon. Friend. We are one of the most
centralised countries in the world, but it is patently the
case that our levels of prosperity are not uniformly high.
We should learn from other countries and from what has
worked well when we have devolved powers and given people
who know what will make a difference locally a better
ability to take those decisions.
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(Nottingham South)
(Lab)
The Minister is right to make upgrading infrastructure a
pillar of his industrial strategy, and I welcome the
investment in HS2, but how can he claim to be providing
greater certainty and a clear long-term direction when the
east midlands’ top transport priority—electrification of
the midland main line—has been paused, unpaused, delayed by
four years and now dropped altogether? Does he not
understand—this follows up on the previous question—that
this uncertainty damages our economy, damages the east
midlands rail industry and harms the region’s potential to
grow exports?
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I expected the hon. Lady to welcome the commitment to
upgrading infrastructure across the country. This is a
Green Paper that is proposing priorities for the years
ahead, and I had hoped that she would welcome that and the
fact that the Chancellor has provided a 60% increase in
infrastructure investment, which will benefit the east
midlands and other parts of the country.
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Sir (West Dorset)
(Con)
I strongly welcome this Green Paper, particularly three
elements of it: Mark Walport’s battery review; the special
sector deal for new ultra-low emission vehicles; and the
considerable efforts to create a hub for autonomous
vehicles. Does my right hon. Friend agree that those three
together should give the UK the opportunity to become one
of the world’s leading producers of the electric and
autonomous vehicles that we will all be driving in 20 or 30
years from now?
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I do agree with my right hon. Friend. An industrial
strategy offers us the opportunity to align policies that
reinforce each other. We have some of the world’s best
researchers in energy storage, and one of the world’s most
effective, efficient and innovative automotive sectors. We
are one of the leaders in renewable energy through offshore
wind. If we bring them together, one will reinforce the
other to give us this chance to be a world leader in a set
of technologies that, under any reasonable estimate, seems
likely to be taken up around the world in the future.
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(East Ham) (Lab)
The last thing we need is 10% tariffs imposed on autonomous
vehicles. The Secretary of State is right to make the point
that we have been the leading destination in Europe for
overseas investment, but much of that was from companies
outside Europe wanting to gain access to the single market,
which the Prime Minister has now told us we are going to
leave. Does he believe that the UK can remain Europe’s
leading destination for inward investment outside the
single market?
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Yes, I do. I said at the beginning of my statement that, as
a Government and, hopefully, a country that believe in free
trade, we want to have the best possible access to the
single market. We continue to be a very attractive
destination, but we want to be even more attractive, which
is why we have set out our commitment to upgrading science
and research, building better technical skills, and
improving our infrastructure. Those are investments and
policies that will enhance the reputation and
attractiveness of the British economy.
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(Wokingham) (Con)
When reviewing procurement, will the Government ensure
that, under this new strategy, we will find all those areas
where British companies can supply goods better and cheaper
and give them the contracts? At the moment, we are
importing large quantities of military vehicles, building
materials, steel for submarines and medical equipment, all
of which we could make competitively here if we had an
intelligent Government customer.
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My right hon. Friend is right. He will see that there are
various proposals on procurement that I hope will have his
support. One in particular opens up Government procurement
to smaller and medium-sized enterprises, which, too often,
have found that the bureaucracy associated with procurement
regimes has kept them off the list. That is something that
we can reform.
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(Newcastle upon
Tyne North) (Lab)
The Green Paper rightly identifies the crucial role that
better connectivity to regional airports could play in
growing economies and highlights the vital importance of
the Emirates route from Newcastle airport, which has
significantly increased exports from the north-east. What
discussions is the Secretary of State having with Treasury
colleagues about the impact on airports such as Newcastle
of devolving air passenger duty to the Scottish Government?
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In the context of a Green Paper on industrial strategy, I
will await the representations from the hon. Lady, but I am
pleased that she acknowledges the emphasis that we have
placed on connections to every region of the country—not
just by road and rail, but through airports—and the
importance of establishing links to other nations with
which we can have good trading relationships.
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(Saffron Walden)
(Con)
How much priority does my right hon. Friend give to the
establishment of a digital railway? Will he encourage
Network Rail in its plans to bring this technology to the
Great Eastern main line, and hopefully to the West Anglia
main line as well, because then the new trains that are on
order could be equipped to take advantage of this in
advance, rather than retrospectively at greater expense?
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My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. That is one of
the proposals in the Green Paper that I hope will have his
support through the consultation.
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(Slough) (Lab)
The Green Paper rightly focuses on productivity, but there
is one area of infrastructure where Britain lags enormously
behind all our competitors: the cost of childcare.
Childcare costs more in Britain than it does in every other
OECD country apart from Switzerland—it takes up over 40% of
the average wage—yet it is hardly mentioned in the Green
Paper. That is the way to liberate the talent of women.
What is he going to do about it?
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The Green Paper invites comments and proposals, so I look
forward to seeing the right hon. Lady’s response to it. As
I said earlier, the Government have taken very seriously
the importance of childcare in allowing women and men to
return to work in good jobs, and we have made great
progress. I will be interested to read her response to the
consultation.
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(Warwick and Leamington)
(Con)
I welcomed the opportunity to join the Secretary of State
on Friday for his visit to the Warwick Manufacturing Group,
an institution that represents many important elements of
this industrial strategy. Does he agree that the midlands
can play a leading role in the development of such a
strategy, as it is home to world-class research, advanced
manufacturing and a skilled workforce?
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I agree with my hon. Friend. One of the things that I found
striking when visiting the National Automotive Innovation
Centre, a fantastic centre that is being built, is the fact
that as well as having research and development facilities
that will be available to large companies and small
challenger firms, there is on the same site a school that
will take in 1,000 apprentices a year to equip them with
the skills the motor industry across the west midlands can
benefit from. That is a very good example of how research
and development can tie in with the agenda of driving
improved standards of technical skills.
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Mr (Orkney and
Shetland) (LD)
If the Secretary of State is serious about building an
industrial strategy that works for the whole country, and
that encourages and maximises the opportunity for research
and innovation, there must be space in it for the
development of marine renewable energy—wave and tidal
power. World-leading work on that is being done in my
constituency at the European Marine Energy Centre. Will he
visit and see for himself the way in which our island
communities can help to build the strategy that he says he
wants to create?
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I would be delighted to visit the right hon. Gentleman’s
constituency—it is quite a time commitment, but I am sure
it would be worth it. He will see when he reads the Green
Paper that there are a number of sources of support for
innovation. Obviously, in a competitive way, the research
and development funding is available for scientists and
researchers to bid for. There is also a chapter on the
green economy that makes suggestions on how we can ensure
that we get industrial advantage as well as keeping costs
low for renewables. Both routes might be applicable for
wave and tidal technologies.
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(Cannock Chase)
(Con)
I have been calling for ambitious, bold and visionary
redevelopment plans for the Rugeley B power station site to
attract businesses that will create highly skilled jobs, so
I welcome my right hon. Friend’s statement and the Green
Paper. Does he agree that the new, modern industrial
strategy will provide the framework and conditions to help
deliver this vision for Rugeley?
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for her question. I
remember visiting that site with her, and it has great
potential not just to be a home for the start-up businesses
that are very important in our economy, but as a place
where technical skills can be imparted to the next
generation of her constituents so that they can have good,
well-paid and satisfying jobs.
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(Sunderland Central)
(Lab)
I welcome some of the things in the Green Paper on the
future of industry and our strategy moving forward, but to
tackle those things, we have to secure what industry we
have now. On Friday, Carlos Ghosn, the chief executive
officer of Nissan, said he was going to revisit the
competitiveness of the plant in Sunderland. What is the
Minister’s view on that and on securing the jobs that
already exist in Sunderland?
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The decision to back Sunderland and to build the two new
models here was a significant moment for her constituents
and for the country. It is true that all investors, whether
domestic or international, constantly look to make sure
that they are competitive, and what every page of the Green
Paper does is show our determination to make sure that this
economy is competitive now and into the future and to take
the actions that will make it so.
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(Bedford)
(Con)
I welcome this wide-ranging discussion of Government
policies at this time, even if the broad buffet of good
things outlined will unleash a torrent of insatiable
demands, not least from the Davos business leaders jetting
back with their Government advisers to barge their way to
the table. Will my right hon. Friend therefore assure me
that his agenda will be set by entrepreneurs? Will he be
honest about the fact that, for every sector that is
favoured, other sectors of the economy will be shunned?
Will he assure me that he understands that there are no
magic levers in his Department saying “raise productivity”
or “improve skills”? Those things eluded his predecessors,
and they will likely elude him.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle)
Order. What I would say to everybody is that we still have
a lot of people standing, and we still have a lot of
business. In order to get everybody in, can we have
brevity, both in questions and answers?
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My hon. Friend is right. The essence of our strategy has to
be to support the ability of people to compete and to make
life difficult for the incumbents. There are no cosy clubs
for the incumbents, and the test of our support in sectors
is whether it helps new businesses to emerge. That is
extremely important.
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(Livingston)
(SNP)
The Federation of Small Businesses reported last year that
significant numbers of women are starting small businesses
and enterprises. Is the Secretary of State not therefore
surprised, as I am sure the rest of the House is, that
there is no mention of women in this industrial strategy,
no mention of inclusion and very little mention of
diversity? Will he undertake to review that?
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Throughout this document, we want to close the gaps that
mean that we do not achieve our full performance, and that
is absolutely the case when it comes to the position of
women at the highest levels in science, for example, and in
research. As the Minister in the Department, I have been
successful in the past in driving the appointments under my
gift to increase the proportion of women at the top level.
However, the hon. Lady is absolutely right that, when there
is under-representation of people of talent, the whole
economy suffers, and that should be corrected.
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(Preseli Pembrokeshire)
(Con)
I strongly welcome today’s statement and the consultation
paper. When we visit large innovative manufacturers such as
JCB, Toyota and Airbus, they all speak about the importance
of the relationship with their local further education
colleges. Does my right hon. Friend agree that one of the
objectives of the strategy should be to replicate examples
of excellence and to drive up standards in the FE sector so
that even more workers and employers share in a picture of
world-class skills education?
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My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. One of the
proposals on which we are consulting is to have much better
connections between local employers and further education
to make sure that the skills that are being provided are
those that can be taken up immediately in these industries.
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(Ynys Môn) (Lab)
I very much welcome the statement by the Secretary of State
and his indication that he will work across the country,
including with the devolved Administrations. On skills and
low carbon, he and I both want to see a successful
lower-carbon energy sector; in particular, he mentions
nuclear. One of the concerns that nuclear workers have is
that their conditions are being undermined by this
Government. Will he agree to work with me and meet me to
discuss this issue, because we need those skills bases to
build on for the future?
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I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman’s welcome. I should
mention that I did not say to the hon. Member for Aberdeen
South (Callum McCaig) that as part of our proposals we will
work very closely with the devolved Administrations in all
parts of the United Kingdom, and I look forward to doing
so. I am always happy to meet the hon. Member for Ynys Môn
(Albert Owen).
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(Stroud) (Con)
I take great pleasure in welcoming the character and
ambition of this industrial strategy, which is exactly the
right direction of travel. I also salute the focus on
technical skills. Does the Secretary of State agree that it
is very important to create the right pathway through our
schools system to these institutions so that we encourage
young people to consider from the very start the STEM
subjects—science, technology, engineering and maths—on
which he has focused, because that is a combination that
will lead to high wages and high skills?
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The Chair of the Education Committee is absolutely right. I
hope that he and his Committee might make a contribution to
the consultation to help us as we establish precisely that
pathway, which starts in school but goes beyond people’s
commencement of work, because people often need to retrain
and take on new skills during their working life.
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Ms (Birmingham, Edgbaston)
(Lab)
I welcome the desire to transform technical
education—something of a recurring theme ever since the
days of Prince Albert. In trying to help the Secretary of
State to make it a success this time, may I ask him to pay
greater attention to the 14 to 19-year-olds at university
technical colleges like the one at Aston University? Could
I persuade him to give the training levy to the newly
elected regional mayors, who can then make strategic
training decisions that are appropriate to the regions they
represent?
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The hon. Lady makes two important points. First, as others
in the past have recognised, it is vital to recognise the
importance of technical education and to improve it, and
that is certainly our intention. On the particular proposal
that she mentions, if she would care to discuss it with me,
we could feed it into the consultation.
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Sir (New Forest West)
(Con)
Where does the crucial role of free markets sit in this
strategy?
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It runs through every page of the strategy.
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(Newport West) (Lab)
Newport has suffered grievously from the neglect of steel,
but it is now having a mini-revival with the reopening of
the site. Steel does not travel well or cheaply. Does the
Secretary of State agree that if a new prosperity for
manufacturing industry is to be created, it must be
constructed on foundations of steel?
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Steel is a very important sector, and it needs to compete
in the world in which we find ourselves. The discussions
that I have been having with the steel industry are based
around a strategy that it is pulling together to make
British steel competitive in the years ahead.
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(North
Herefordshire) (Con)
The New Model in Technology and Engineering, or Hereford
University as it should properly be known, has received
tremendous support from the Secretary of State’s
Department, but will the £170 million that he has promised
in this statement be too late for Herefordshire, as we only
have until 28 January to apply for new funding?
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My hon. Friend is right to point out the prescience of his
friends and neighbours in Herefordshire in making their
proposal. This is a very good example of precisely the sort
of reform that we need, and I think that its prospects are
pretty bright.
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(Ashfield)
(Lab)
We heard no mention of former coalfield communities such as
Ashfield that still mourn the loss of well-paid jobs in the
pits. I understand that this is a Green Paper, but what new
jobs or tangible differences does the Business Secretary
hope to see in communities such as mine, and by when?
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There is very much a reference to communities such as those
that the hon. Lady mentions. When I talk about parts of the
country that have fallen behind the best performing places
in terms of productivity, they are the areas and towns that
we have in mind—that is essential. It seems to me that one
of the foundations for future prosperity is to ensure that
the level of skills is higher than it has been for the
industries that are expanding. It is particularly in areas
such as hers that that transformation can have the greatest
effect.
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(Weaver Vale)
(Con)
I was delighted earlier today to welcome the Prime Minister
and, indeed, the Secretary of State to the marvellous
Sci-Tech Daresbury in Weaver Vale to unveil the
Government’s industrial strategy for the UK. Does my right
hon. Friend agree that the £556 million boost for the
northern powerhouse, alongside the £4.7 billion fund for
science, technology and innovation, will help to create
high-skill, high-wage jobs, helping to close the
north-south divide?
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I was delighted to be back in Daresbury, which I have
visited several times with my hon. Friend.
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(City of Chester)
(Lab)
I was born there.
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Clearly lots of good things happen in
Daresbury—[Interruption.] Some better than others, it is
pointed out—that is a little mean.
My hon. Friend the Member for Weaver Vale (Graham Evans)
mentions two things. The first is the devolution through
the local growth fund, which is making a big difference
across the country by putting more funds in the hands of
people with the knowledge of what is needed locally to make
a difference. The second, of course, is the big investment
in research and development, of which impressive facilities
such as that in Daresbury will make good use.
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(Rhondda) (Lab)
Mobile technology is a very important part of modern
infrastructure, but may I urge the Secretary of State to be
cautious when he looks at Ofcom’s figures? I suspect that
many of us in the Chamber have looked at its maps that say,
“Yes! Universal coverage with 3G and 4G—no problems at
all,” only to find that the situation on the ground is
phenomenally difficult. According to Ofcom, Porth—and this
building, for that matter—have perfect access to all four
mobile signals, but that is not true, is it?
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The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. When we talk
about infrastructure, digital infrastructure, whether it is
mobile or broadband, is very important. For businesses that
depend on it, it is about dependability and reliability,
not theoretical availability. That is very important, so it
forms part of our approach.
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(South West
Wiltshire) (Con)
The Secretary of State rightly pointed out that 1970s’
industrial strategy was flawed by the fact that it almost
exclusively focused on big industry. Will he ensure that
his industrial strategy does not repeat that mistake by
focusing exclusively on large, mature economies at the
expense of medium-sized, emerging economies? Together, they
represent the future.
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right. That is one of the
reasons why much of the proposals are cross-cutting, rather
than about particular firms. It is also why there is a
particular emphasis on helping small businesses to grow and
new businesses to be set up.
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(Scunthorpe) (Lab)
Steel is a key product for all the infrastructure projects
that the Secretary of State mentioned, including Hinkley C,
Heathrow and High Speed 2, so I welcome his statement that
there is likely to be a sector deal for steel. What does
the steel industry need to do to make sure that it achieves
that deal?
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The steel industry is already embarking on a consideration
of how it can plan out its future. I have encouraged it to
do that—although it needed no encouragement, because it is
keen to do so—and I look forward to seeing the fruits of
that during the weeks ahead.
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(Eddisbury)
(Con)
I welcome the recognition that rural broadband is
particularly important for increased GDP growth. Will the
Secretary of State make a commitment that no small rural
business will be left behind when it comes to digital
connectivity?
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My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. We want to help
everywhere to achieve its potential. We know that the
prosperity of many rural areas is held back if they do not
have good digital connectivity, so that is one of the
ambitions that we set out in the Green Paper.
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(Aberavon)
(Lab)
Given the vital nature of steel as a foundation industry,
it is pretty astonishing that it gets only one passing
mention on about page 100 of this Green Paper. May I
commend to the Secretary of State the report “Steel 2020”,
which was produced by the all-party group on steel and
metal-related industries? May I ask him to read it and
perhaps come to a future meeting of the all-party group so
that he can explain why steel has not been given a sector
deal in the Green Paper, and why it seems to have been
airbrushed out of the strategy so far?
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I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman talks nonsense. I have
had very cordial and successful meetings with the steel
industry, and it is excited about the prospects of working
strategically for its future. I have had the pleasure of
attending meetings of the all-party group in the past, and
I look forward to doing so again.
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(South West
Bedfordshire) (Con)
Last Tuesday, the Chancellor described the roll-out of
ultra-low emission vehicles as “disappointing”. We have
87,000, and the Government want 1.6 million by 2020. Will
the Green Paper lay out a reliable road map to enable us to
hit that target, as it is also a key part of improving our
air quality?
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My hon. Friend is right that there are significant
opportunities in the roll-out of electric vehicles, not
just in the transport sphere but in our energy systems. An
electric vehicle is, among other things, a unit for storing
electricity. Combining and making connections between these
sectors is good for consumers, industry and the resilience
of the country.
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Mrs (Washington and
Sunderland West) (Lab)
As the Secretary of State knows, the automotive industry is
a major contributor to the greatness of the industrial
heartland in the north-east, yet the Prime Minister’s
indication that there will be a hard Brexit has made many
businesses across the country and in the north-east
nervous, including Nissan in my constituency. Will the
Secretary of State ensure that the consultation fully
addresses those concerns, and supports the success of—and,
hopefully, with regard to electric vehicles and batteries,
the future expansion of—this vital industry?
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The hon. Lady is right to emphasise the importance of being
at the cutting edge of research and development in the
automotive sector. That is one of the reasons why many car
companies find Britain an attractive place to base, which
is important. When it comes to the discussions about
Brexit, we are clear—the Prime Minister has been clear—that
we want to have a free trading relationship with our
friends and neighbours in Europe, and that is the way in
which we will approach the negotiations.
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(Fylde) (Con)
As you are only too well aware, Mr Deputy Speaker, the
north-west of England is very much the hub of the nuclear
sector in the UK. Can the Secretary of State shed some
light on what thinking he has given to ensuring that people
in the north-west of England are the prime beneficiaries of
the new supply chain that will be emerging in the nuclear
sector?
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right that there are huge
opportunities through the development of new nuclear, which
will require the training of a new generation of nuclear
engineers and technicians. It is important that that is in
place. There are also opportunities, not just in this
country but around the world, to use our expertise in
decommissioning to earn income for the UK and to create
good jobs. There are big opportunities in the sector with
regard to skills and the expansion of industries.
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(Dwyfor
Meirionnydd) (PC)
The Prime Minister’s strategy lacks concrete proposals for
Wales. Considering our £5 billion of trade and good net
surplus with the EU, Wales is set to suffer most from the
pursuit of a brutal Brexit. Does the Minister accept that
doing nothing to counter the loss of EU convergence funding
will serve only to exacerbate the already significant
geographical wealth and earnings inequalities that
characterise the British state?
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I urge the hon. Lady to read the Green Paper, in which she
will see an absolutely crystal-clear commitment to making
sure that all parts of the United Kingdom are able to share
prosperity. That is good for those places and good for the
UK as a whole.
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(Hertsmere)
(Con)
I welcome the Green Paper’s recognition of the vital role
of the creative industries, the one sector that grew
throughout the whole of the last recession. Will the
Secretary of State reassure me that that extends to the TV
and film industry? The recent hit Netflix series “The
Crown”, which was filmed in my constituency, is a wonderful
example of how jobs, investment and exports can be
generated by the sector. Does he agree that that requires
not only the right skills, but the requisite supply of
commercial space, particularly in the south-east?
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I agree with my hon. Friend. The creative industries,
together, have some claim to be Britain’s most successful
sector in recent years—they have been growing very
strongly. Sir Peter Bazalgette has agreed to work with the
industries to look at what they need to build on that
success in the future and to continue to create the great
jobs they have produced. I look forward to that work.
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(Middlesbrough South
and East Cleveland) (Lab)
I warmly welcome the Government’s new industrial strategy
Green Paper, although it implicitly admits that the past
six and a half years without an industrial strategy have
been wasted. Having said that, the Materials Processing
Institute has made a bid to be a metals catapult, and there
is no mention of carbon capture and storage. Those issues
are critical to the ability of any energy-intensive
industries to go forward. Of real concern is certain BEIS
civil servants’ views of virgin steelmaking capacity, and
certain advice going to Ministers in relation to importing
steel, rather than relying primarily on British-made steel,
whether that is from Scunthorpe or Port Talbot. Will the
Secretary of State please get up at the Dispatch Box and
rule that out?
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I do not recognise the issue that the hon. Gentleman
mentions, but if he speaks to me later, I will be able to
find out more about it. I am grateful for his welcome to
our approach. I argue strongly that it builds on some of
the successes we have enjoyed in recent years, not least by
devolving powers and funds to local areas and looking to
create institutions that can conduct research and
development that now has a worldwide reputation. However,
we cannot be complacent; we need to continue that and build
on it in the future.
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(Macclesfield)
(Con)
I congratulate my right hon. Friend on his impressive
industrial strategy, which works hand in glove with the
Government’s Brexit plans to strengthen business confidence
further. The new strategy also underpins the Government’s
commitment to the life sciences. With that in mind, will my
right hon. Friend accept an invitation to come to
Macclesfield to see AstraZeneca’s site—the largest
pharmaceutical site in the UK—to find out more about its
exciting growth plans for the future?
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I will, indeed. Talking about the life sciences in the
north-west touches on one of the themes of the Green Paper,
which is the interaction between sectors and places, and
how we can build institutions that can encourage smaller
businesses to benefit from the presence of a range of other
businesses in that sector. We have further work to do, and
my hon. Friend will be expert adviser on it.
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(Airdrie and Shotts)
(SNP)
A Green Paper should set out the Government’s ambitions in
a particularly policy area, and the central focus of an
industrial strategy should be on jobs. I asked the
Secretary of State on 13 December 2016 about the disability
employment gap and how the industrial strategy could help
to support the Government’s ambition to halve that gap by
2020. Will he explain why the words “disability” and
“disabled” do not feature in the Green Paper?
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The Green Paper does mention the fact that we will set out
further measures on employment policies. I have agreed with
the hon. Gentleman in the past that, just as I said in
relation to the question from the hon. Member for
Livingston (Hannah Bardell), when people’s contribution is
not adequately made use of, it is a loss and an injustice
for not just the individuals concerned, but the whole of
the country and the economy.
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(North Swindon)
(Con)
This is a very welcome and ambitious Green Paper. In
Swindon, we have embraced development to attract new
businesses and jobs, but to be able to reach our full
potential, we need to unlock additional land and
infrastructure funding quickly. How can that process be
speeded up?
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I am keen that we should be agile and fleet of foot. It is
important that land and premises are available, not least
for businesses that are expanding, or those that are being
founded or located for the first time. My right hon. Friend
the Communities Secretary has that very much in that mind
as part of his reforms to the planning system.
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(Luton North)
(Lab)
UK manufacturing and exports are benefiting greatly from
the more sensible and appropriate parity of sterling, but
much more needs to be done to rebuild Britain’s industrial
strength. Will the Secretary of State therefore give
serious consideration to re-establishing the National
Economic Development Council to provide a forum for
employers, trade unions and Government to consult and
advise on how British industry may be promoted for the
future?
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I am interested in the hon. Gentleman’s proposal. I had not
thought of reviving a body that I think was associated with
a different type of industrial strategy. The council was
about the big employers sitting down with Government. As
some of my hon. Friends have pointed out, the approach that
we want to take is more about creating conditions in which
insurgents, new businesses and challengers to existing
businesses have a central place. I am not sure that his
suggestion would be the right approach, but I would be
interested in hearing from him about it.
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Mr (Kettering)
(Con)
Small and medium-sized enterprises are the bedrock of local
economic endeavour in Northamptonshire, and light industry,
small-scale manufacturing and engineering firms are the
backbone of the local economy. How can the Secretary of
State best demonstrate to my constituents that his new
industrial strategy is relevant to them?
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In a number of ways, I think. My experience of such
businesses is that sometimes what constrains their ability
to fulfil growing order books is a lack of skilled staff
whom they can employ. The big focus on technical skills,
and on improving the standard of technical education by
working closely with employers, will make a big difference,
especially to small and medium-sized business that cannot
operate large training institutes themselves.
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(East Lothian)
(SNP)
How does the Secretary of State reconcile his commitment to
innovation and insurgency with the wholesale pillage of the
cream of British high-technology firms through foreign
takeover, not least the current takeover by Mastercard of
VocaLink and the prospective sale by the Government
themselves of the green investment bank to Macquarie?
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I regard it as a badge of pride that this country is open
to overseas investment, from which we have benefited
hugely. When I was with my hon. Friend the Member for
Warwick and Leamington (Chris White) in the west midlands
on Friday, we met the chief executive of Jaguar Land Rover,
which is owned by an Indian company and has been a force
for great good in the area. I want to be open to overseas
investment.
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(Salisbury) (Con)
I warmly welcome the rigour of the analysis underlying the
Green Paper. When the Secretary of State considers the
future of the Aerospace Growth Partnership, will he
think about what happens across Government, particularly at
Boscombe Down with the long-term relationship between the
Ministry of Defence and QinetiQ, and look for opportunities
to grow such areas of real expertise?
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The Aerospace Growth Partnership has
been a success, and we are committing not only to
continuing that now very successful institution, but to
learning lessons for how other sectors might create similar
institutions themselves.
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(Oldham West and Royton)
(Lab)
I absolutely support the need for an industrial strategy,
so I welcome the Green Paper on that basis, but the proof
of the pudding will be in investment and whether the money
is there to support the proposals. May I invite the
Secretary of State to Oldham College in my constituency so
that he can hear from the principal and the governing body
about how the lack of funding in schools is undermining the
efforts that are pointed out in the industrial strategy?
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I hope that the hon. Gentleman will take the opportunity,
through a consultation that seeks to establish as much
common ground as possible on our priorities for the future,
to work with colleges and employers to ensure that the
reforms that are needed are put in place so that we can
equip his and all our constituents with the skills that
they will need to get good jobs in the future.
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(North West Hampshire)
(Con)
I applaud the Secretary of State for putting life sciences
front and centre of his industrial strategy and point out
that the industry’s largest customer is the national health
service. Will he therefore confirm that, as part of his
review of procurement, the NHS’s inflexible and
unimaginative procurement processes will fall within the
scope of the review, not least in relation to drugs,
devices, therapies and diagnostics?
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It is evident that this is a whole-Government Green Paper;
not just my Department but all Departments are joined in
it, and the Health Secretary is an enthusiastic participant
and will want to be part of those conversations —advised, I
am sure, by the expertise that my hon. Friend brings to the
subject.
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(Kilmarnock and Loudoun)
(SNP)
When the Secretary of State met the four Ayrshire MPs to
discuss the Ayrshire growth deal, we had a very positive
and encouraging discussion, and we welcomed that. He
suggested that the growth deal aligned with the Green
Paper, and having now seen the 10 action points, I agree.
Will he confirm that he still believes that the Ayrshire
growth deal aligns with the industrial strategy? If so,
will he also commit to working with his Treasury colleagues
to secure some money for it?
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I strongly believe in the city deals and growth deals, and
I thought the presentation from the hon. Gentleman and his
colleagues showed a very good ambition, bringing together
the industrial strengths and opportunities of their area,
so I wish it every success. These deals need to be
negotiated, but he will know that in Scotland we have a
good record of making progress on city and growth deals.
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(Bury St Edmunds)
(Con)
I welcome the statement. As the Secretary of State knows,
the east of England enjoys an excellent ecosystem for life
sciences. Does he agree that the strategy provides industry
and business, particularly the life sciences sector, with
the opportunity to bring their ideas to the door in order
to truly drive their sectors and upskill our workforce?
Also, may I invite him to Bury St Edmunds, which sits
beautifully next to Cambridge and has both an enterprise
zone and West Suffolk College, which would make an
excellent institute for technology?
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That is an enticing invitation—it would be very nice to
visit Bury St Edmunds—but I am in danger of filling my
diary for the year. My hon. Friend’s points resonate with
the themes of the Green Paper, which is about ensuring that
we have the right institutions and skills to support the
businesses of the future. The strategy will be
business-led. It is not about the Government directing
business; it is an invitation to business, employers and
consumers to respond by saying what they need from it,
rather than the Government simply saying, “This is how it’s
going to be”.
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(Cumbernauld,
Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East) (SNP)
The Secretary of State briefly alluded to the importance of
migration policy for the industrial strategy, productivity
and innovation, so will he consult on taking over
responsibility for certain parts of migration policy,
seeing as the Home Office is making a mess of it? Even
better, given his warm words on the importance of
devolution, will he consult on devolving immigration policy
so that the nations and regions can use local knowledge to
determine the local skills needs?
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My responsibilities are broad enough and keeping me busy
without my taking my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary’s
job. That said, the hon. Gentleman’s question gives me the
opportunity to re-emphasise that the strategy is a
whole-Government approach, and of course it is important
that the brightest and the best can continue to be employed
here and to make the contribution they do to the whole UK
economy.
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(South Basildon and
East Thurrock) (Con)
There is obviously much to be welcomed in the strategy, but
may I express my particular support for the importance
being placed on science investment and developing skills?
To that end, will my right hon. Friend, first, seize the
moment and make the case across Government for increasing
spending on science and technology to 3% of GDP, which many
of our competitor nations have done and which the Science
and Technology Committee, which I chair, has called for?
Secondly, will he please publish the digital strategy as a
matter of urgency?
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I am grateful to the Chairman of the Select Committee for
pushing us in that direction. He will see in the Green
Paper that we are clear sighted about the need to invest in
science and research, and this is not just Government
investment; we want to create the conditions in which the
private sector can invest in research and development. On
the digital strategy, that is very much part of the
programme that this industrial strategy is leading, and he
will not have long to wait before he sees it.
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(Paisley and
Renfrewshire North) (SNP)
I welcome the Green Paper, and the Secretary of State is
right to try to position us for the jobs and sectors of the
future, but what does he propose to do in the here and now?
Many of my constituents working at Doosan Babcock and
Chivas Brothers face redundancy. What can he do for them?
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The House of course knows of the situation at Doosan
Babcock. Whenever any business makes redundancies, or
redundancies are threatened, that is a worrying time for
the employees. We are active, through Jobcentre Plus and
our other agencies, in making sure that whatever
opportunities are available, whether new jobs or training,
are offered. In that respect, we generally have a good
record, including in the hon. Gentleman’s constituency, and
the Green Paper takes up that approach. It acknowledges
that businesses will close from time to time, but that the
most important thing is that we equip those workers with
the right skills to get good jobs in the future.
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(Richmond (Yorks))
(Con)
I welcome the Government’s commitment to skills. Does my
right hon. Friend agree that creating a UCAS-style system
for apprenticeships could realise the Government’s ambition
by giving technical education greater parity of esteem with
universities, making it easier for young people to find
local vacancies and increasing the number of SMEs offering
apprenticeships?
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his words and for his
contribution, which, as he will see when he reads it,
features prominently in the Green Paper. It is an excellent
idea, and I hope he will promote its success in the years
ahead.
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(City of Chester)
(Lab)
rose—
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Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle)
Last but certainly not least from the Opposition, I call
the voice of Chester, Mr .
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I would hope not least, Mr Deputy Speaker.
The Science, Engineering and Manufacturing Technologies
Alliance has calculated that there is an annual shortfall
of 50,000 skilled engineers and that this will aggregate to
about 800,000 by 2020. How does the Secretary of State plan
to close that gap? While he is at the Dispatch Box, will he
take the opportunity to scotch the recent press reports and
confirm that all the steel in HS2 will be made at UK
plants, including Shotton, where many of my constituents
work?
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On the first point, it is clear that our investment in and
focus on technical education goes precisely to meet the
challenge that the hon. Gentleman identifies—around the gap
between the needs of employers and the skills available in
the workforce. On procurement for HS2, he will know that we
have changed the guidelines to enable the contribution from
British steel to be viewed on a fairer basis, but obviously
that is part of a process that HS2 will need to go through
to procure the product.
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(Newark) (Con)
Given the failed industrial policies of the post-war
period—unforgiveable sums of taxpayers’ money were wasted
trying to prop up and pick winners—I am reassured to hear
the Secretary of State say that his approach will be a much
broader and more intelligent one. With that in mind and
with a view to horizontal reforms, where do tax
simplification and deregulation—arguably two of the
greatest supply-side reforms that helped to lift the
British economy out of the doldrums in the 1980s—fit into
his strategy?
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They are both important. The third of the three challenges
I mentioned at the beginning of my statement was to make
and keep the UK as one of the best places in the world to
found or grow a business, and both of the policies my hon.
Friend mentions are crucial to that. This country has
succeeded in creating and hosting new businesses in recent
years partly because we in the Conservative party have had
that very much in mind.
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(Wells) (Con)
I congratulate the Secretary of State and his team on the
Green Paper and welcome the recognition that the
digitisation of our energy system and the inclusion of
storage and demand-management technologies will improve
productivity as keenly as any other infrastructure
improvement. Does he agree that the UK could and should be
the world leader in clean tech, and does he share my view
that the south-west would be an ideal focal point for the
UK’s growth in that sector?
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I certainly agree with the first proposition; we have an
opportunity there. On the second, I would say that my hon.
Friend is commendably vigorous in his promotion of the
south-west, which will have a very big role to play. So,
too, will other parts of the country: Cumbria, for example,
with its strong nuclear cluster; and the east coast with
its expertise in marine engineering and supplying offshore
wind. All parts of the UK can benefit from our leadership
in clean growth.
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(Faversham and Mid
Kent) (Con)
I welcome the industrial strategy paper, especially its
focus on science and skills, its building on local
strengths and its addressing of institutional gaps. As my
right hon. Friend knows, Kent has strength in life chances,
but a conspicuous institutional gap in its lack of a
medical school—an institution from which life science
innovations frequently emerge. I mention to my right hon.
Friend that I am hopeful that this industrial strategy
might be a vehicle for Kent to seek support for a medical
school, and I would be grateful to him for any
encouragement he might offer.
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for her words. She will
know that in life sciences, one proposal is to review what
the sector needs to be able to support the small and
medium-sized businesses in it, so that proposal might be
something to be taken up.
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Mr (Havant) (Con)
I congratulate my right hon. Friend on the statement and on
the Green Paper. As he develops the industrial strategy,
will he continue to support Britain’s leadership role in
the fourth industrial revolution, and the new jobs,
innovations and companies that are driving forward our
growth? Will he encourage them to contribute to the Green
Paper consultation, which I warmly welcome?
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for all the work he has
done to make sure that this country does not cede to others
the energy and initiative to take advantage of what is
termed the fourth industrial revolution. The pamphlet that
he recently wrote is full of good ideas, and I hope that my
hon. Friend and his colleagues who wrote the pamphlet will
respond to the consultation.
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(Corby) (Con)
I commend the Secretary of State’s statement, and I commend
to him the report of the all-party parliamentary group on
steel and metal-related industries, which has been
published today. I hope that it will be useful as part of
the ongoing discussions within government. The Government
have made great strides forward in public sector
procurement, so will my right hon. Friend make sure as part
of this work that we do everything we can to transfer some
of those principles into private sector procurement, too?
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My hon. Friend makes a very good point. I will certainly
bear in mind what he said and will read closely the APPG
report that he mentions.
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(Boston and Skegness)
(Con)
Any industrial or digital strategy must rely on
transformative investment in broadband infrastructure. Can
the Secretary of State reassure us that this is a strategy
that will address not only the problems of the last 10
years, but those of the next 20 and 30 years, so we can
plan for a world web with an internet of things and the
fourth industrial revolution, which my hon. Friend the
Member for Havant (Mr Mak) mentioned a few moments ago?
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My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. Our strategy must,
of course, be forward looking and must be able to create
the conditions in which investors and firms can make
commitments now that are going to lead to our prosperity in
the future. My hon. Friend’s frame of reference is
absolutely right.
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(Erewash) (Con)
I warmly welcome the Green Paper on the modern industrial
strategy, but will my right hon. Friend reassure my
constituents in Ilkeston and Long Eaton that traditional
industries such as lace-making and upholstery, which
contribute so much to our local economy, will not get left
behind?
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I am interested to hear this observation from my hon.
Friend. We are talking about a consultation. It is
important to participate in the new industries, so that
through our research and development and scientific
expertise we can take our place in that respect, but of
course a lot of our existing industries make an important
contribution to our economy and to employment, and we want
to make sure that they can prosper, too.
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(Yeovil) (Con)
I welcome these proposals and note that in all 10 of the
areas of focus, the Yeovil area and its aerospace cluster
present outstanding and crucial opportunities to optimise
our potential. Will my right hon. Friend visit my
constituency and help me to promote a local centre of
excellence, an institute of technology, to build local
skills and actively to encourage inward investment from the
likes of Boeing, so that in partnership with great local
companies such as Leonardo, we can deliver the skills and
jobs of the future and maintain our strategic abilities in
helicopters?
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In my tour of the country—from Orkney to Somerset, it now
seems—I will be delighted to look at the aerospace cluster
in Yeovil. Companies reinforce each other by their
presence, and as we know from experience across the world,
when we have several companies all in the same sector, it
is a source of resilience to local economies.
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(St Austell and Newquay)
(Con)
rose—
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Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle)
Last, but certainly not least, I call .
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Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I know you have been saving the
best for last.
Many references have been made to mobile technologies and
electric vehicles as growth areas for the future. They both
rely heavily on batteries. Will the Secretary of State
therefore join me in welcoming last week’s news that large
deposits of lithium have been found in Cornwall? This creates
a great opportunity to build on our mining heritage in
Cornwall and develop new industries around the extraction of
lithium. Will my right hon. Friend confirm that this
industrial strategy is designed precisely to support
industries such as this one?
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I am interested to hear this—I had not picked up that
news—from my hon. Friend. It is certainly true that the
technological developments in energy storage, including
batteries, provide a big opportunity. If Cornwall has an
opportunity to contribute some of the raw materials for that,
I am sure that this will be excellent news for the county.
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department
for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (Lord
Prior of Brampton) (Con)
My Lords, with the leave of the House, I shall now
repeat a Statement made in another place by my right
honourable friend the Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy. The Statement is as
follows:
“Mr Speaker, this is a hugely important moment for the
United Kingdom: a moment when we must prepare a new
strategy to earn a prosperous living in the years
ahead. Leaving the European Union allows—and
requires—Britain to make long-term decisions about our
economic future. We will, of course, be ambitious in
the upcoming negotiations and will secure the best
possible access for firms to trade with and operate in
the European market.
While the terms of trade with other economies are
important, so is the competitiveness of our own
economy. That is why the Government are committed to a
modern industrial strategy. Its objective is to improve
living standards and economic growth by increasing
productivity and driving growth across the whole
country. Today’s Green Paper is part of an open
dialogue to develop this strategy as the enduring
foundation of an economy that works for everyone.
We start from a position of considerable strength. We
are the fifth biggest economy in the world despite
having the 22nd highest population. We have achieved
higher levels of employment than ever before in our
history—in fact, 2.7 million more than in 2010. We have
businesses, research institutions and cultural
achievements at the very forefront of global
excellence. For all these reasons, we attract
investment and talented individuals from around the
world.
However, there are challenges that Britain must face up
to now and in the years ahead. The first is to build on
our strengths and extend excellence into the future.
British excellence in key technologies, professions,
research disciplines and institutions provides us with
crucial competitive advantages, but we cannot take it
for granted. If other countries invest more in research
and development and we do not, we cannot expect to
keep, let alone extend, our technological lead in key
sectors or the world-beating performance of our
universities. The same goes for our record as Europe’s
leading destination for inward investment or our
position as a centre of international finance. Our
competitors are not standing still. They are upgrading
infrastructure networks and reforming systems of
governance. Therefore, we, too, must strive for
improvement.
In industrial sectors—from automotive and aerospace to
financial and professional services and the creative
industries—the UK has built a global reputation, but
the competition for new investment is fierce and
unending. The conditions that have allowed UK
investment destinations to succeed include the
availability of supportive research programmes,
relevant skills in local labour markets, and capable
supply chains. For continuing success, these
foundations must be maintained and strengthened.
The second challenge is to ensure that every place
meets its potential by working to close the gap between
our best-performing companies, industries, places and
people and those which are less productive. For all the
global excellence of the UK’s best companies,
industries and places, we have too many that lie too
far behind the leaders. That is why, on average,
workers in France, Germany and the USA produce around
as much in four days as UK workers do in five. It is
also why despite having the most prosperous local
economy in northern Europe—in central London—we also
have 12 of the 20 poorest among our closest neighbours.
We must address these long tails of underperformance if
we are to build a strong economy and ensure sustainable
growth in living standards. To do so is a huge
opportunity for the whole nation to benefit from
improved productivity —that is, earning power—in all
parts of the country.
The third challenge is to make the UK one of the most
competitive places in the world to start or to grow a
business. A fatal flaw of 1970s-style industrial
strategies was their dominant focus on existing
industries and the companies within them—and then
mostly the biggest firms. Too often they became the
strategies of incumbency. It is worth noting that many
of the most important companies in the world today did
not even exist 25 years ago. Unlike in the past,
industrial strategy must be about creating the right
conditions for new and growing enterprise to thrive,
not protecting the position of incumbents.
To meet these challenges, we have identified 10 pillars
around which the strategy is structured—10 areas of
action to drive growth right across the economy and in
every part of the country. They are: investing in
science, research and innovation; developing skills;
upgrading infrastructure; supporting businesses to
start and grow; improving procurement; encouraging
trade and inward investment; delivering affordable
energy and clean growth; cultivating world-leading
sectors; driving growth across the whole country; and
creating the right institutions to bring together
sectors and places. Across all these areas, the
Government are already taking strategic decisions to
keep British industry on the front foot; for instance,
the go-ahead for major upgrades to our infrastructure,
such as Hinkley Point C, Heathrow and High Speed 2,
and, in the Autumn Statement, the biggest increase in
research and development spending since 1979.
In conjunction with today’s Green Paper, we are
launching a range of further measures. These include: a
new approach to enabling existing and emerging sectors
to grow through sector deals, with reviews taking place
regarding life sciences, ultra-low-emission vehicles,
industrial digitalisation, nuclear, and the creative
industries; deciding on the priority challenges and
technologies for the new Industrial Strategy Challenge
Fund to focus on and the other opportunities we can
address using the £4.7 billion increase in research and
development funding; and an overhaul of technical
education, including £170 million of capital funding to
set up institutes of technology to deliver education in
science, technology, engineering and mathematics
subjects.
In a world containing so much uncertainty, public
policy should aim to be a countervailing force for
stability, not an additional source of
unpredictability. So our aim is to establish an
industrial strategy for the long term, to provide a
policy framework against which major public and private
sector investment decisions can be made with
confidence. It is therefore vital that the full
development of our industrial strategy should take
place with—and not just for—British enterprise. The
full involvement of innovators, investors, job
creators, workers and consumers in England, Scotland,
Wales and Northern Ireland is the only basis on which
we can produce an enduring programme of action. That is
why this is a Green Paper—a set of proposals for
discussion and consideration, and an invitation to all
to contribute collaboratively to their development. I
commend this Statement to the House”.
5.23 pm
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(Lab)
My Lords, I welcome the launch of the Government’s
Green Paper on industrial strategy. There is much to go
through and be positive about and much to scrutinise. I
hope there will be other opportunities to have
meaningful debates on this matter. There are
considerable questions about the Green Paper, which I
hope the Minister can answer. It is clear that there is
much for us to do to maintain our economic position.
Whether or not it has novel ideas is no test of a good
industrial policy. There is much to be gained by doing
more of what was being done—just doing it better. Much
of this has a familiar feel. Seven of the 10 pillars of
the industrial strategy were key parts of the
Government’s productivity plan, Fixing the
Foundations—the words “cut and paste” crossed my mind.
However, on this side of the House we are glad that
some of the approach—particularly the sector plan—does
represent a new way to support the development of our
economy. We are keen to observe the development of this
strategy: how the Government will deal with the obvious
issues around picking winners and national champions,
and how this approach will evolve. We are pleased that
the Government are looking to support the automotive
industry. A sector deal would undoubtedly be useful
here. The Government have been very coy about the view
that they did much to encourage the most recent
announcement of investment by Nissan—the so-called
secret deal. However, I am sure the Minister can
confirm that there was, in fact, no deal and that the
investment announced was planned for a timescale that
would not be adversely affected by our relationship
with Europe. Will the Minister confirm that the message
from Nissan reminded the Government that, in common
with other Japanese companies, it would review its
position in keeping with the Japanese Government’s
15-page letter? Given the current plan for exit from
Europe, and its inconsistency with their desired
approach, a sector deal is the only way to ensure a
viable car industry in the medium to long term.
I am also pleased to see that the pharma industry and
the life science industry get a special mention. Can
the Minister confirm that the Government will defend
the UK base against US industry’s ambitions in any
potential trade deal with the United States?
The Green Paper was accompanied by the re-announcement
of existing commitments of resources. The funds for
science and research are very important and, as I
understand it, recover our position since the cuts
started to set in in 2010. None the less, the focus on
supporting science, technology and innovation is to be
strongly supported. Additionally, the support for
technical education is welcome, and the work of the
noble Lord, , in promoting
this crucial requirement for our economy should be
acknowledged.
As with many areas of this plan, there is a case for
scepticism about any further education proposals that
do not address the severe capacity issues in the
sector. Can the Minister provide a clearer idea of how
the development of this strategy will be able to call
on new resources, what the expected timetable is for
outlining further elements of the industrial strategy,
and how it will dovetail with the budget process?
The Green Paper suffers from two of the perennial
problems we always face with government business policy
announcements. There is a terrible lack of objectives,
and there is no clear road map or sense of desired
outcomes. Instead, a series of good and reasonable
measures, worthy as they are, do not make a plan that
is likely to have real impact or be effective and
efficient. Can the Minister tell us whether any
concrete objectives or goals that can reasonably be
measured will be set in this process?
Secondly—the Statement just did this again—the Green
Paper glosses over a huge imbalance in the economy. Our
huge reliance on the service sector is not meaningfully
addressed in this industrial strategy; nor is the acute
problem of the size of our manufacturing industry and
its disproportionate decline. While any industrial
strategy must look to the long term, our immediate
future relies on how well our services can perform. I
would be grateful if the Minister could outline how the
service sector is expected to be part of, or to be
assisted by, the industrial strategy. This is
especially important in areas where, in support of the
industrial strategy, we are looking at reinforcing our
research and innovation, such as in robotics and
artificial intelligence, and many others that are
likely to have a major impact on employment
requirements in the services sector.
There are, of course, some areas in which we had been
expecting something new and different in the industrial
strategy. We had hoped for greater ambition on
broadband and mobile capacity, signalling a change to
the currently pedestrian goals in the Digital Economy
Bill. We had also expected slightly more about how we
see effective markets and competition, and the culture
of business. Crucially, are there any plans to create
tougher oversight of foreign investment in the United
Kingdom? Does the Minister agree with the sentiment
that,
“A proper industrial strategy wouldn’t automatically
stop the sale of British firms to foreign ones, but it
should be capable of stepping in to defend a sector
that is as important as pharmaceuticals is to Britain”?
I am sure he does: those were, of course, the words of
the Prime Minister previously. Can the Minister account
for their omission from the Green Paper?
There is much to welcome in starting a conversation
about an industrial strategy, and there are some
positive ideas here. But this is not yet a plan, and on
this side of the House we hope that, over time, one
will emerge. This is a first step. Martin Luther King
said:
“Faith is taking the first step even when you don’t see
the whole staircase”.
The Government would do well to remember the old adage
that setting goals is the first step in turning the
invisible into the visible. An effective industrial
strategy will need that.
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(LD)
My Lords, the Prime Minister’s decision to adopt a new
active role for Government in industry is welcomed on
these Benches. The Green Paper’s 10 pillars have most
of the right words, and they identify many of the areas
of concern that have been voiced in many debates over
the past few years. I trust that we will have an
opportunity to debate some of those aspects in more
detail. I shall focus on just two of those
elements—skills and cultivating world-leading sectors.
I remind your Lordships of my published interests.
First, the Green Paper is right to identify skills as a
central issue to future prosperity and productivity for
the country, and a cash boost for technical and STEM
education is, of course, welcome. However, it should be
put into the context of a 7.5% reduction in schools’
per pupil funding by 2020 and the cash-freezing of the
adult skills budget until 2020—a £30 million real-terms
cut next year. Thus, £170 million for new institutes of
technology is all very fine but irrelevant given some
of the wider cuts affecting all our young people.
Therefore, can the Minister please tell us whether the
Government plan to reverse their cuts to the education
budgets for four to 19 year-olds? Also on skills, the
Government continue to ignore the benefit and value
that we gain from workers and scientists from the
European Union working in this country. They continue
to treat these people and their families as a
bargaining chip. Could the Minister at least
acknowledge the personal anguish being caused to these
people, many of whom are already contributing greatly
to the success of the industrial sectors that he seeks
to bolster?
Secondly, the Green Paper’s support for the coalition’s
sector strategy is very welcome. Here I disagree with
the noble Lord, , in that a
bit of cut and paste is actually a good thing as these
strategies have to span more than one Parliament to be
successful and take root. Therefore, they depend on a
long-term approach. It is good news that the Government
are continuing to run those strategies through.
However, the idea that any Government can have a
reasonable strategy for British industry while
recklessly withdrawing from the single market is not
credible.
Last week, the Prime Minister confirmed her intention
to exit the single market, yet, extraordinarily, the
Green Paper fails to refer to either the single market
or the customs union, although a few euphemisms such as
“turbulent times” creep in. The Government’s idea seems
to be to negotiate individual sectoral agreements for
“frictionless trade”—their term. Not every sector can
benefit from this, or we would still be in the single
market, and not every sector can expect the
negotiations to succeed. Therefore, as these
negotiations start, the Government will have to decide
which sectors will be top of their list for trade
deals. Conversely, some will be at the bottom. The
Prime Minister has said that the industrial strategy is
not about picking winners, but the Brexit negotiations
will inevitably pick losers. Can the Minister please
tell the House which sectors will win and which will
lose?
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I thank both noble Lords for their interesting
comments. I agree with the noble Lord, , that if this
industrial strategy is to have real strength, it will
have to be spread across Parliaments. As part of the
consultation process it will be interesting to hear
whether noble Lords have any ideas on how we can do
that and how we can institutionalise some cross-party
agreement around productivity. I do not know whether
anyone else read the speech given by Andy Haldane from
the Bank of England in the north-east a month or so
ago, which I think was entitled Red Car, Blue Car. He
reminded us that the US economist, Paul Krugman, noted:
“Productivity isn’t everything, but in the long run it
is almost everything”.
I think that most people would agree with that.
Particularly in an economy such as ours with high
levels of employment, if you want to increase wealth,
you have to increase productivity.
It is true that we are building on the past. I pay
tribute to the work done by previous Governments in
this field. But despite what has been done in the past
we have to accept that productivity levels in this
country are low; worse than that, they are much lower
in some parts of the country than in others. Although
productivity may be just an economic concept, the
consequence of that is that wage levels are much lower
in some parts of the country than in others. In the
East Midlands, for example, the average wage is £480 a
week, whereas in the south-east it is £670 a week. No
one, on either side of the House, can be happy with
that degree of inequality. If we are to address that,
we have to address productivity. Therefore, if there is
a familiar feel to our Green Paper, I make no apologies
for that. We are building on the past but we must do a
lot better.
I think that both noble Lords support the very
significant growth in R&D spending, and that there
will be broad support across the House for the two
horizontal parts of this industrial strategy: R&D
and innovation spending, and the focus on technical
skills. That is not to say that we are not doing
anything now but we could do a lot more. We have huge
strengths in our university sector, but we are less
strong on how we commercialise some of that research. I
was horrified to learn that 14 to 16 year-olds today
are no more literate or numerate than people aged
between 45 and 55. There has been no real improvement
in teaching basic literacy and numeracy for 20 or 30
years, which is quite an indictment of our education
system. Therefore, putting more resource into education
at all levels—primary school as well as later
on—particularly into the STEM subjects, is extremely
important. Skills are very important.
Reference was made to coming out of the single market.
I do not think that is a debate we can usefully have at
this point. Of course, we will do everything we can to
retain as much frictionless access to the single market
as possible. It is a very important market for many
industries. However, other markets are important as
well and we need to develop them. That is very much a
part of the industrial strategy.
The noble Lord, , referred to
life sciences. I absolutely confirm that they are
important. The pharmaceutical, med tech and biotech
industries are extremely important. British research is
absolutely at the forefront of world research in cell
and gene therapy. As far as Japanese investment is
concerned, we will do everything we can to encourage
inward investment from Japan and other parts of the
world. The automotive industry would be only a pale
shadow, were it not for the big Japanese investments
that came here in the 1980s. We fully recognise that
and are working very closely with Toyota, Nissan and
Honda to ensure that they remain and continue to invest
in the UK. The advanced manufacturing unit at Warwick
is doing extraordinary work in automotive and advanced
manufacturing, and the Green Paper contains a
commitment to develop an institute for battery
technology. Finding a way to store energy economically
and efficiently would give us a huge competitive
advantage as we develop the industrial strategy.
However, this is a Green Paper; it is out for
discussion for the next three months. I was asked about
the timing. The consultation period will last for three
months. The plan is to produce a White Paper by
September, which will feed into the Autumn Statement.
That is the broad timing. I look forward to engaging
with many noble Lords as we develop the Green Paper
into a White Paper over the next six months.
5.38 pm
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(Con)
My Lords, if this is feedback time, as I gather it is,
will my noble friend accept from me the feedback that
our energy policy is in a terrible mess and certainly
not working for everyone? Our energy costs are still
much too high compared with those of our competitors.
Our costs of carbon reduction per tonne are much too
high and reliability is severely compromised, certainly
in the next two or three years. Therefore, will he take
back to the authors of the Green Paper that if we can
get an energy policy that is far more efficient, works
for everyone and combines affordability, reliability
and low-carbon targets much more effectively than now,
we will make some progress with this strategy?
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I completely agree with that. It is made very clear in
the Green Paper that we must have a low carbon energy
policy, but an affordable energy policy. Affordability
is critical. It is no good going to Port Talbot or
Scunthorpe and telling steel workers there that they
must bear the cost of a green energy policy with their
jobs. We have to be able to put high energy industries
into a competitive position, particularly within
Europe.
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(Lab)
My Lords, I commend the relatively short, three-month
consultation on the Green Paper. Do Government intend
to take responsive rapid action to that consultation,
not so much in the form of a White Paper, but with
effective implemented action? That is a matter of the
greatest possible urgency, given the seriousness of the
situation in our manufacturing industries particularly.
For instance, will the Government heed today’s
all-party report on forging a future for the British
steel industry, emulate the examples shown by other
European Governments, and act effectively on energy
costs, business rates, and procurement, to ensure a
real, new vitality for the steel industry, avoiding the
possibility of a lingering death for this crucial
British foundation industry and its 575 companies?
Without effective steel, a strategy is much more a hope
than the prospect of a reality. I would greatly regret
that, but I hope that is a point of urgency in the mind
of the whole Government.
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I am pleased that the noble Lord thinks that three
months is a good short time for the consultation to
take place. We are not standing still over that time;
we are going ahead, as he knows, at Hinkley, with the
new runway at Heathrow, and with the £170 million
committed to institutes of technology.
I entirely agree with the noble Lord. I have a long-
standing and emotional commitment to the British steel
industry. When I joined British Steel in 1980, I think
we were producing 17 million tonnes of steel per year,
so times have changed over the past 20 or 30 years. We
are not in the business of propping up failing
industries, but we are certainly in the business of
supporting competitive industries like the steel
business.
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(LD)
My Lords, there is no point in having skills if we give
away industrial capacity. The Government will know very
well, because I have raised it several times, that
there is deep concern about the lack of Government
commitment to maintain Britain’s only standalone
helicopter production facility in Yeovil. I have asked
the Government repeatedly, here and elsewhere, to use
the opportunity of the industrial strategy to make it
clear that they wish to see that preserved. Everything
else is mentioned here: Airbus, Rolls-Royce,
Bombardier, Boeing, BAE Systems, GE Aviation, GKM,
Solihull, Loughborough—all points north and east, but
not a word about helicopters, or the commitment that we
now need. Does the Minister realise how much
disappointment, and indeed anger, there will be in the
Yeovil community for that? Will he give a commitment
that in the so-called refresher industrial defence
policy that is about to be published this very
dangerous omission will be corrected?
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My Lords, I was not aware of the omission to which the
noble Lord has drawn my attention. I think I am meeting
someone from Yeovil in the helicopter business
tomorrow, as it happens. Certainly, we will be using
procurement. One area in which we have not been as
clever as they have been in America, for example, is
using defence procurement and other parts of government
procurement to support competitive British industries.
I will investigate the omission to which he has drawn
my attention with regards to helicopter manufacture at
Yeovil, and will try to understand why that is the
case.
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(CB)
My Lords, for many years successive Governments
assiduously and conscientiously pursued what they
called policies of regional development. Will the
Minister undertake, despite all the difficulties and
complications that now exist, that such policies will
not be ruled out of court in the situation in which we
now find ourselves?
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My Lords, the current jargon is to use “place” instead
of “regional policy”, and place plays a large part in
this industrial strategy. The issue was raised by the
noble Lord opposite about the objectives. It is a very
good point, and one I should have addressed earlier on.
What are the objectives of the industrial strategy? I
have in mind a decent working man in a place like
Hartlepool, who ought to be commanding a decent wage of
£30,000 to £35,000 a year, who is currently working for
£7.50 an hour picking stock in a warehouse. That will
be the true measure of whether this industrial strategy
is a success—whether we can bring back decent,
well-paid, skilled jobs to all parts of the country.
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Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate (Con)
My Lords, I thank my noble friend very much for that
presentation. I welcome this Green Paper, and I bear
witness as someone from the north-east of England
originally, and now from Yorkshire, to how the north of
England has had to adapt to technology and to the
changes in de-industrialisation and engineering over
many years. I ask my noble friend about the support of
the Government, not only in financial terms, which is
suggested by their contribution to technology
institutes of £170 million, as he has mentioned, but
also in their enthusiasm, which has often been lacking
in many Governments, towards those who pursue careers
in engineering, innovation and new technology. That is
what we need—more encouragement and acceptance, as
other European countries do to a lot of their own
subjects. Let us be more enthusiastic while we work on
this Green Paper in the consultation process. That
would be most helpful. Does my noble friend agree?
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I agree 110% with that. For generations we have
downgraded people who do technology, engineering, and
the like; whereas we have paraded people who do PPE at
Oxford, and the like. We have got it slightly wrong. We
should do anything we can to encourage young people to
go into technology, engineering, natural sciences and
the like. Of course, the changes in technology that we
are witnessing now, and will continue to witness over
the next 10 years, will fundamentally change our
society, whether in artificial intelligence, in
robotics, in cell and gene therapy, or in battery
technology—this is the future. The more we can
encourage people to go into these technological areas
and also encourage them to be entrepreneurial at the
same time, that will be good not just for them but for
our economy as a whole.
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(Lab)
I welcome the further endorsement of Heathrow’s
expansion. As the Minister will know, the Government
keep saying it quietly, so I hope it will happen. But
my question really relates to the wider aerospace
industry. It is an incredibly important part of British
industry, with very advanced technology—the second most
advanced in the world, and still the second or third
largest in the world generally. What troubles me, and
what troubles me about other industries such as the car
industry, is that increasingly parts are exported and
re-exported. I wonder how much thought in this Green
Paper is going to be given to the complexity of
arrangements not just with Europe—but obviously with
Europe at the moment—in terms of exports and re-exports
in order to produce a finished product.
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The noble Lord is referring, I think, to the
integration of supply chains, which have now become
very global. Certainly, that is particularly true in
areas such as satellite technology. Having easy ways of
trading with other countries with non-tariff barriers
is critical to that. Space technology is exactly the
kind of industry that the UK should be fully a part of.
It is interesting—you look around the world, and the
USA is clearly leading in many of these areas, but if
you look at other countries you often find that our
technology is very strong. That is not to be
complacent. Look at Israel, Switzerland, or
Singapore—and look at Ireland, which has done a
fantastic job in attracting many of the world’s best
companies. If they can do it in southern Ireland, why
can we not do it in Northern Ireland, or in the
north-east, or the north-west?
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of Nympsfield
(CB)
I add my welcome to this, the ninth industrial strategy
since I have been on this earth. In the debate on the
Autumn Statement that we had before Christmas I
suggested that we were waiting for the eighth, but the
noble Lord, Lord , got in touch with
me and said that I had forgotten his, for which I
profoundly apologise. I read them all recently, in the
build-up for this great day, and worries about
productivity, which the Minister has stressed already,
are at the heart of all of them. Can the Minister
identify—in his own view, not a collective one—where
the magic is in this Green Paper that was absent from
all the others? What is there in this Green Paper that
will bedazzle economic historians in the 2050s at the
foresight the Government showed this day?
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That is a good question, and I am sure that the answer
will emerge over the next three months of consultation.
To be realistic, there is no magic in these things. If
you look around the world at countries which have got
their industrial strategy right, whether it is Germany
and technical education, Singapore and advanced
manufacturing, or Switzerland and advanced
pharmaceuticals, I am not sure that there is any magic.
It is a combination of great research, great technical
skills, efficient capital markets and an efficient
competition policy. Actually, the UK has not done that
badly. Let us not do ourselves down too much. If you
look at science, between Oxford, Cambridge and London
it is fantastic—absolutely world-class—and we do
world-class things in many parts of the UK. However, on
the noble Lord’s point, we need to refine this
industrial strategy over the next three months, and the
six months until the White Paper comes out, so that we
are absolutely clear about what really makes a
difference. That takes us back to the objectives that
the noble Lord, , mentioned
earlier on. We must have very clear objectives.
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(LD)
My Lords, pillar 9 is about driving growth across the
whole country, which is welcome. However, it will take
more than words—it will take actions. What change will
be made in infrastructure investment where, at present,
on the DfT figures, investment in transport
infrastructure right up until 2021 will be £1,870 per
head in London and only £280 per head in the whole of
the north? Based on this strategy, how will this
change?
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I cannot answer that directly now, but if I can, I will
consider it and write to the noble Lord. However, the
total commitments for rail infrastructure investment—I
cannot tell him exactly which part of the country
relates to—is £88 billion, for example, so we are
looking at a massive infrastructure investment in rail.
I hope that I do not have the decimal point wrong on
that figure but, if I have, I will write to him. We are
looking at a massive investment in physical and digital
infrastructure. The critical thing is that we use that
purchasing power to direct it towards great British
companies which are investing in quality and in their
workforce.
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(Con)
My Lords, does my noble friend agree that any
industrial strategy that is to be successful must not
neglect the rural economy—farming, horticulture, and
the service industries? Would it therefore not be
deeply unfortunate if, during the next six months, as
we develop our strategy, we inadvertently undermine
many of our rural industries by the swingeing increase
in business rates that threatens them? Will my noble
friend please bear that carefully in mind?
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We will certainly bear that in mind. Clearly, the rates
of tax, whether that is corporation tax, business rates
or any other costs to business, are critically
important. I take on board his comments about the
importance of the rural economy.
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(Lab)
My Lords, I am glad that the Minister seems to be
enjoying his new brief, and I welcome the new Green
Paper and its wish list. However, I am a bit concerned
about research and development. The same announcement
as that in the Green Paper was made last autumn—they
are identical—and that is in the context of a 50% cut
in research and development since 2010. Therefore, to
announce an increase when there has been a real cut
over a period of five years seems to be not a good
start to the discussion on research and development.
The Minister himself has said how important research
and development is. Will this be a real increase, and
will it be sustainable?
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My Lords, that is a very good question. My own view is
that it is one of the great, long-term, sustainable,
competitive advantages we have. When John Kenneth
Galbraith went to India in 1948 to give advice on setting
up a pharmaceutical industry there, he was asked, “How do
we do it?”. He replied, “Build a university and wait for
200 years”. There is some truth in that. We have some
great universities here, which are a source of huge,
long-term, competitive strength.
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(Ind
Lab)
My Lords, there may be nothing magical about industrial
strategy, but it is important that that strategy is not
obstructed by bureaucracy. I hope that we can be assured
that there will be no bureaucratic obstruction of the
plans.
To return to the question of electricity, if we are to
have a successful strategy, it is essential to have cheap
electricity for industry. At the moment, we are faced
with the building of a power station at Hinkley Point,
which will charge £95 per megawatt, and the Swansea Bay
scheme, which will cost £90 per megawatt. What will the
Government do to ensure that these prices do not affect
industrial ability?
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I hope that I can assure the noble Lord that we will not
obstruct—or rather, we will try not to obstruct—the
industrial strategy. I am reminded of that old lie, “I’m
from the Government—I’m here to help you”. I keep in mind
that we will try not to build in too much bureaucracy. We
have an ambition to reduce the cost of red tape by £10
billion over the course of this Parliament. Of course,
electricity prices are critically important, particularly
to industries such as the steel industry and indeed to
all energy-intensive industries, so that will be very
much part of the industrial strategy, as it emerges over
the next three months.
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(Con)
To follow on from what my noble friend Lord Howell and
the noble Lord, Lord Stoddart, said about energy policy,
how can the Government quote Hinkley Point as an example
of affordable energy policy when it will cost £20 billion
to construct but with a level of subsidy for its output
which, at the end of its 40 years of life, will raise
that £20 billion to £100 billion? That is paid by the
consumer, whether industrial or domestic, and the cost of
a gas-fired station with the equivalent output over the
same period would be £3 billion.
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I should make it clear that I was not quoting Hinkley as
an example of our affordable energy policy but as an
example of our infrastructure policy. We need to have a
mix of different energy sources.
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