Network Rail Peter Grant (Glenrothes) (SNP) 1. What discussions he
has had with Ministers of the Scottish Government on further
devolution of Network Rail. [908115] Chris Law (Dundee West)
(SNP) 5. What discussions he has had with...Request free trial
Network Rail
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1. What discussions he has had with Ministers of the
Scottish Government on further devolution of Network
Rail. [908115]
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5. What discussions he has had with Ministers of the
Scottish Government on further devolution of Network
Rail. [908119]
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I met the Minister for Transport and the Islands in the
Scottish Government, , in October last
year. I welcome working together to improve services
for rail passengers within the current devolution
settlement.
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I am grateful to the Minister for his answer, but can
he explain why the Government are happy to devolve
responsibility for maintenance and track operations on
the Oxford to Cambridge line, yet they are so reluctant
to devolve the same responsibility to the Scottish
Government for Scotland?
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The point we have consistently made is that there was
no recommendation by the Smith commission to devolve
the whole of Network Rail to Scotland. The Scottish
Government can specify, fund and procure for ScotRail
and the Caledonian Sleeper. They can also specify and
fund all major projects, and we are devolving the
British Transport police. That strikes me as a hefty
menu for the Scottish Government to be engaged with.
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I thank the Minister for his reply. The Reform Scotland
think-tank published a report in November calling for
Network Rail to be devolved—perhaps the Secretary of
State has read it. The Minister will also be aware that
an ever-growing list of people advocate further rail
devolution, so will he do the right thing and commit to
a date for opening discussions with the Scottish
Government on this matter?
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Devolution does not just occur within Governments and
within Whitehall, and between Whitehall and Scotland. A
significant amount of operational devolution is
occurring within Network Rail as we speak. A Scottish
route within Network Rail that will have much more
independence and freedom of action is being set up. I
urge the Scottish Government and Scottish Members to
engage in that devolution process, not least because
the Scottish Government are co-operating with the
Office of Rail and Road on the periodic review that
will determine the output for control period 6 within
Scotland.
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A report commissioned by Transport Scotland showed that
Network Rail’s original cost estimates for Scottish
projects were unreliable. Does the Minister agree that,
especially when projects overrun by hundreds of
millions of pounds, those who commission the work
should have the power to hold Network Rail to account?
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I reiterate the point that with the new devolution
settlement within Network Rail and the growing
independence of the Scottish route within Network Rail,
there are ample levers available to Members here and
indeed the Scottish Government to influence how the
Scottish route director delivers those infrastructure
projects.
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Why does the Minister feel that Scotland does not need
a rail project capability based in Scotland that is
accountable to the people of Scotland?
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I return to how I started my answer and remind the hon.
Gentleman that we had a lengthy discussion about what
was contained in the Smith commission. This did not
emerge from that commission, so we are not taking it
forward.
Southeastern Rail
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2. What plans he has to improve services for passengers
on Southeastern rail. [908116]
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We will launch the formal consultation on proposals for
the new Southeastern franchise in February. I hope that
people across the franchise area will participate in
it, enabling my Department and the team working within
the franchise to make informed decisions about the
specification for the next franchise, particularly
regarding how we expand capacity for passengers.
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Not only are my constituents of all political
persuasions disgusted by the manner in which the
Secretary of State has politicised this issue, but they
have absolutely no confidence in his proposed solution
for the Southeastern franchise. A previous attempt to
merely involve Transport for London in the design of
Southern’s 2009 to 2015 franchise failed because that
did not involve its proven concession model for
suburban rail services, so can the Secretary of State
tell us why on earth he thinks that repeating this
failed approach will deliver much-needed improvements
for Southeastern passengers?
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There has been no politicisation of this discussion.
This decision was taken after the Mayor’s business plan
was analysed across government, and after discussions
with neighbouring authorities and people who know the
route. The truth is that the Mayor’s proposals offered
no extra capacity for passengers but a whole lot of
uncosted, unfunded promises. They also involved a very
substantial top-down reorganisation. The approach we
have chosen is the same one that we have taken for
Northern and in the midlands, which is to create a
partnership to develop a franchise that will work for
all passengers in Kent and south-east London to deliver
the capacity that we need.
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I support the Transport Secretary on that. My
constituents in Kent are deeply concerned that, for too
long, London has acted as a selfish city seeking to
benefit itself at the expense of the people of Kent and
the other home counties. It is not right for London to
act like a “Hunger Games”-style capital seeking to
subjugate the districts. We need fair rail services for
Kent, Essex and the other home counties, and I urge the
Secretary of State to carry on and to uphold his
decision.
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I assure my hon. Friend that I have every intention of
doing so. This is a partnership arrangement that brings
together London, Kent County Council and my Department
to do the right thing for passengers. It is interesting
that the Mayor could offer no proposals to expand
capacity on these routes. I intend to bring forward
proposals that do offer expanded capacity for
passengers on those routes.
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The Secretary of State’s leaked letter reveals that he
reneged on the suburban rail agreement because of his
obsession with keeping services “out of the clutches”
of a potential Labour Mayor—those are his words. He has
put party politics ahead of passengers and clearly
prefers to see trains running late than running on time
under Labour. Will he now agree to an independent
assessment of the proposal by a respected figure
outwith his Department, given yesterday’s revelations
of conflicting commercial interests, to restore
credibility to the process and ensure proper
consideration of the needs of long-suffering
passengers?
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I cannot believe what I have just heard from the hon.
Gentleman. He talks about putting party politics before
passengers in the week when the Leader of the
Opposition said that he would join a picket line to
perpetuate the unnecessary strikes on Southern rail
that are causing so much damage to passengers. I will
not take the hon. Gentleman seriously until I hear him
condemning those strikes and telling the workers to go
back to work.
Cross-border Transport
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3. What recent discussions he has had with Ministers of
the Welsh Government on cross-border
transport. [908117]
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My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State recently
met the Welsh Government’s Cabinet Secretary for
Economy and Infrastructure, Mr . Their positive and
useful discussion recognised the importance of
cross-border transport and our commitment to deliver
improvements, such as the investment we are making in
the Halton curve.
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The investment by the Welsh Government of £43 million
in the Wrexham to Chester line, mainly in England, will
lead to a partial dualling of that line by April this
year. What more will it take to persuade the UK
Conservative Government to match the Welsh Government’s
investment by investing in more transport
infrastructure in that region, for which an
unanswerable case has been made?
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The Government are already investing significantly in
our rail network—more than at any point since the
Victorian era. The Mersey Dee rail taskforce has
produced its growth prospectus—Growth Track 360—and it
is working with the rail Minister, my hon. Friend the
Member for Blackpool North and Cleveleys (Paul
Maynard). I understand that it is now prioritising its
objectives, and we will continue to work closely with
it.
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The case for reopening the station at Bristol Road,
Stonehouse, has been well argued and firmly
established. Does the Minister agree that that is
exactly the kind of initiative we need to enhance links
between Wales, Gloucestershire and the south-west of
England?
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My hon. Friend makes a valuable point, and I agree with
him.
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The Minister mentioned the Halton curve; he will know
that it is an important part of the cross-border links
between my constituency and Wales. Will he confirm that
the project is on time, and tell us the date on which
it will be completed?
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I will check the latest information and write to the
hon. Gentleman, but my understanding is that it is
exactly on time.
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As the Minister knows, the Operation Stack relief lorry
park is vital for cross-border transport links between
Kent and the continent. The owner of Westenhanger
castle has been actively seeking a meeting with the
Department for the past six weeks to discuss accessing
the compensation package that he has agreed with
Highways England, in return for which he will withdraw
his application for a judicial review against the park.
Will the Minister urge one of his ministerial
colleagues to meet me and the owner of Westenhanger
castle so that we can resolve this matter and get on
with building the lorry park?
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Focusing on cross-border matters relating to Wales
would help.
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That was a very entrepreneurial question, Mr Speaker. I
can certainly confirm to my hon. Friend that the roads
Minister, my right hon. Friend the Member for South
Holland and The Deepings (Mr Hayes), will indeed meet
him.
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The Government could do something about the
cross-border position between the Rhondda valley and
the upper Afan valley because they still own the tunnel
that was used by the train from Treherbert down to
Swansea. Will the Government please make sure that I
can have the meeting with the Secretary of State for
which I have been asking for several weeks to come up
with innovative ideas so that this can become a major
new cycle track?
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I am afraid that my local knowledge of those tunnels
has not kept pace with the hon. Gentleman’s. All I can
say is that I have heard his point and will take it
forward with my colleagues.
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Six lines radiate out from Chester, two of which are
cross-border lines, hence the “360” in Growth Track
360. Chester is recognised as a pinch point within that
railway development, so may I invite the Minister to
have his next meeting on cross-border transport with
in Chester so that he
can see what preliminary work might be done before he
presses ahead with the main work?
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It is always delightful to visit the city of Chester,
and I look forward to doing so.
Transport Infrastructure: Teesside
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4. What recent investment his Department has made in
transport infrastructure in Teesside. [908118]
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The Tees valley is benefiting from the Government’s
significant investment in transport infrastructure
across the country. Most recently, we have agreed to
fund the Tees valley authorities to develop their plans
for a new Tees crossing and to improve connectivity
from Teesport to the A1.
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I thank the Minister for his reply. Last week we
received the welcome news that Tesco will be basing all
its non-food warehousing at its existing centre in
Teesport. Given that economic and employment boost for
Teesside, will the Minister reciprocate by pledging
full backing and funding for the A66 and a second Tees
crossing, as called for by the Teesside combined
authority?
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My right hon. Friend the Chancellor committed to
dualling the A66 in last year’s autumn statement. On
the new Tees crossing, we have provided funding to take
the business case to the next stage. We will happily
work with the area’s local authorities. I recognise the
importance of Teesport to the local economy and the
value that a new Tees crossing would provide, so I am
very keen to see that take shape.
High Speed 2: Costs
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6. What recent estimate he has made of the cost to date
of High Speed 2. [908120]
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I am committed to managing the cost of HS2 and ensuring
maximum value for the taxpayer. Total expenditure on
HS2 in the period from 2009-10 to 2015-16 was £1.4
billion, of which £450 million was spent on land and
property. The rest has ensured that HS2 is on track for
delivery, and includes money for developing the scheme
design, consulting affected communities, bringing the
High Speed Rail (London – West Midlands) Bill to
Parliament and developing HS2 Ltd. Figures for the
current financial year will be available in the summer.
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The cost of HS2 is not just to the taxpayer but to
those it affects. The House of Lords Select Committee
on the HS2 Bill has recommended amending it to ensure
that HS2 Ltd does not have a blanket power to
compulsorily purchase land for regeneration or
development, and to provide that it must limit its land
acquisitions to what is needed for the scheme,
particularly in relation to clause 48. As you know only
too well, Mr Speaker, farmers, landowners and
communities have been blighted for years by the scheme,
and the threat of further compulsory purchase orders is
truly worrying. Can the Secretary of State reassure me
that he will accept the Committee’s important and very
welcome recommendation on clause 48 and alleviate the
anxiety of those affected by this project?
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First, on behalf of the Government, I thank all members
of the House of Lords Select Committee for their work
over the past few months. Indeed, I thank those who
served on the equivalent Committee in this House, for
whom this was a long and arduous task. We are carefully
considering the Lords recommendations and we will
publish our response shortly. If my right hon. Friend
will forgive me, I will save my detailed response for
that publication, but I am looking extremely carefully
at the recommendation to which she referred.
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I am sure the Secretary of State is aware that, with
regard to the option to have a station in the centre of
Sheffield, there is currently no money to get trains
out of the station and north to Leeds, and there is no
money to increase the station’s capacity at the
southern end to get better connectivity to
trans-Pennine trains. There is even no money to
electrify the line between Sheffield station and the
main HS2 route. Does this not increasingly look like a
cut-price option? Will he agree to meet local MPs and
councillors, and other interested parties, to discuss
these matters?
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May I start by wishing the hon. Gentleman a happy
birthday? [Hon. Members: “For tomorrow.”] For tomorrow.
The Under-Secretary of State for Transport, my hon.
Friend the Member for Harrogate and Knaresborough
(Andrew Jones), has indeed been involved in such
discussions, but I remind the hon. Gentleman that the
original proposal for a station at Meadowhall was
opposed by the city council, which wanted the route to
pass through the city centre. It is in response to
pressure from within Sheffield that we have revisited
those original plans, but I assure him that those
discussions will continue.
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Does my right hon. Friend agree that although the costs
of the project need to be kept under control, the
economic benefits it will bring to areas such as Long
Eaton in my constituency will far outweigh some of the
costs that we are talking about today?
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This is one of the key aspects of the development of
this project, so my hon. Friend makes an important
point. What is happening in the area around Long Eaton,
and the new development of a station and surrounding
facilities at Toton, will make a huge difference to her
area. As she knows, we have been discussing how best to
make sure that we get the right solution for Long
Eaton, but we will continue to work for her
constituents to reflect in the final design what works
best for them.
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Given what will be the eye-wateringly huge final costs
of HS2, surely it makes sense to maximise the use of
this asset, so will the Secretary of State tell us
whether the line will be used 24 hours a day, seven
days a week? If not, will the otherwise wasted capacity
be used for freight—and if not, why not?
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Of course the whole point about HS2 is that it releases
capacity on the existing west coast main line for
freight. As a result, I see the potential for
significant increases in freight across the west coast
main line area. As for timetabling, that is a matter
for those who decide what is the best commercial
proposition for that route, but we expect, and are
planning for, very intensive use of the route across a
wide variety of destinations, including Stoke-on-Trent.
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My right hon. Friend’s last answer worries me slightly.
Lichfield suffers all the disadvantages of having the
line go through it and no station, because it is too
small. I was hoping that he would say that the freeing
up of capacity would mean that the west coast main line
could have more trains stopping at Lichfield Trent
Valley, but is that now not going to be the case,
because the line will be blocked up with freight?
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No, I think there will be room for both. The benefit of
HS2 is that it provides an opportunity for more
commuter trains, more intermediate trains and more
services to places that do not currently receive them.
By taking the fast trains off the west coast main
line—trains that go straight up to places such as
Manchester and Liverpool—more opportunity is provided
for better services in places such as Lichfield and the
Trent valley, which the current mix of services makes
it difficult to achieve.
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Mr Speaker, you and the Minister will remember that
when I said that the cost of HS2 would soar past £60
billion I was mocked, but it is now past £60 billion
and rising. The chief executive has quit and the people
in my constituency would like this folly to be stopped
now, with the money—£60 billion and rising—put into
saving the health service and into our local
government, which is going bankrupt.
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I hate to disappoint the hon. Gentleman but actually
the plans for HS2 have been widely welcomed across the
north of England. The project will make a significant
difference to the economy of his region. The point I
would make to him about cost is that one reason why we
are spending more money than is spent on equivalent
lines in some other countries is because we are
spending money on amelioration measures that minimise
the impact on the environment.
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As well as updating the costs of the project, may I
urge my right hon. Friend to update the economic
benefits to communities such as mine in Milton Keynes,
which, as he says, will benefit from a significant
increase in commuter and inter-city traffic as a result
of the release of capacity on the west coast line?
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We will continue to provide information about the
benefits of this project, but my hon. Friend is right
to say that in places such as Milton Keynes—it is one
of our most important growth areas, and it will need
more commuter services north to south and east to
west—the introduction of HS2 will make it possible to
deliver a much better service for his constituents and
others.
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The Adam Smith Institute has warned that HS2 could end
up costing up to £80 billion, which would equate to
nine times more per mile than comparable high-speed
tracks in France. How can the Government assure the
public that the already sky-high costs of this project
are not going to spiral even further out of control?
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As I said, this is a choice; we want not only to
deliver high-quality infrastructure for the future, but
to do so in a way that is environmentally sensitive.
That means spending money on tunnels, cuttings and
things that other countries would perhaps choose not to
do. I want to retain a careful stewardship of Britain’s
green and pleasant land while delivering what we need
for the future, and that is what we are doing.
Access for All
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7. What recent assessment he has made of progress on
delivery of Access for All projects by Network
Rail. [908122]
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Since 2014, the Access for All programme has completed
accessible routes at 25 stations, with 12 more
currently in construction, and a further 52 at various
stages of design and development.
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The Minister will understand the real anger in Alfreton
at the further delays in the Access for All programme
at the station there, where many passengers still
cannot use the southbound platform. Can he at least
reassure them that the station will be prioritised in
the next block of funding, so that the improvements are
done in 2019?
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We had to delay 26 Access for All projects into control
period 6, one of which was, unfortunately, Alfreton,
because the project there was less developed than
others we were considering. Nevertheless, I can
reassure my hon. Friend that I am making it clear to
Network Rail that I expect the improvements to be
delivered early in control period 6, after 2019.
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Does the Minister recognise the importance of the
maximum number of people being able to use our rail
services? Why are schemes such as Access for All seen
as expendable?
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I certainly do not agree that they are regarded as
expendable. We have reached a point at which roughly
70% of passenger journeys are from step-free access
stations, of which there are roughly 450 throughout the
network. The hon. Lady wrote to me regarding a station
in her constituency, and I have asked my officials to
look into that more closely to make sure we fully
understand what has occurred there. I hope to reply to
her soon.
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The McNulty report said that the rail industry had to
do more to operate efficiently and bring down costs.
Will the Minister say what he is doing to persuade the
rail industry to do that in relation to step-free
access, so that it can be extended to more stations,
such as New Barnet?
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My right hon. Friend makes an important point. When we
are looking at improving our accessibility projects
throughout the network, we need to ensure that the
solutions we come up with are cost-effective but not
gold-plated. I am sure that when she was in my role she
found what I find now, which is that sometimes projects
come before us the cost of which can scarcely be
justified and that the same outcome can be achieved
much more cheaply.
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Confusion and frustration abound in the Lawrence Hill
area of my constituency, in relation to step-free
access and other disability access improvements to the
Lawrence Hill station. Local people have been
frustrated by the works there, and rumours abound that
they are being cancelled, postponed or just stopped.
Will the Minister agree to meet me and visit Lawrence
Hill station to talk to local residents about the
situation? Preferably, he could clear the matter up
right now.
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I am not familiar with the exact details for that
station, but I am more than happy to meet the hon. Lady
to discover what is occurring there.
Rail: Accessibility
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8. What progress is being made on ensuring that trains
and stations are fully accessible to disabled
people. [908123]
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We are committed to improving accessibility on the rail
network. Roughly 70% of train fleets operating
passenger services currently meet modern accessibility
standards, with work on the remaining vehicles due to
be completed by 2020.
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A moment ago, I was engrossed in the answer to the
question asked by my neighbour, my hon. Friend the
Member for Bristol West (Thangam Debbonaire), as that
issue also affects my constituency. I very much hope
that we make progress on the Lawrence Hill and
Stapleton Road stations.
On accessibility on trains, the Minister will be aware
of the recent case of the Team GB Paralympian, Anne
Wafula Strike. It was very brave of her to come forward
and speak about what must have been a humiliating
experience when no disabled-access toilet was available
on the train. What is the Minister doing to ensure that
situations like that do not occur and that disabled
people are treated with respect?
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I am glad that the hon. Lady brings up that case. I am
sure she shared the same sentiments that I am sure
every Member felt on reading that story: it was simply
unacceptable. We have made it clear to CrossCountry,
through officials, that it was not good enough, and I
will reiterate that when I next speak to the company.
More importantly, I want to ensure that we meet our
target of every rail carriage, including the toilets,
being fully accessible by 2020. In situations in which
the accessible toilet is out of order, for whatever
reason, either that carriage must be taken out of
service or, if that would have unacceptable service
consequences, any individual on the train who might
need the accessible toilet must be made aware of the
situation before boarding and thereby have the chance
to make alternative arrangements.
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Money was secured more than three years ago for
step-free access, not only for disabled people but for
all people, at Garforth train station. Network Rail has
been stalling and delaying. I have secured a commitment
to the printing of a poster advertising that the work
will happen by May, but may I urge my hon. Friend to
speak to Network Rail to get the work done as soon as
possible? The money has been in place for three years;
delays are not necessary.
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I am more than happy to discuss the matter further with
my hon. Friend. My initial understanding at this stage
is that the works at Garforth, as indeed with many on
the trans-Pennine routes, are interlinked with the
upgrades we are planning on the trans-Pennine network.
I am happy to have a further discussion with him.
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Last Friday, a disabled wheelchair user, Sandra Nighy,
on Southern was left stranded on the train platform in
the freezing cold for two hours because there was no
one to help her on to the train despite booking
assistance 48 hours in advance. She was on an unmanned
station, and the trains that passed her by were
driver-only with no on-board supervisor. The law is
absolutely clear: train operating companies must
provide reasonable access for disabled passengers. Does
the Minister agree that the failure to do so strips
disabled passengers of their dignity and of their right
to travel and breaches the Disability Discrimination
Act 1995?
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I am glad that the hon. Lady raises that case. When I
heard about it, my interpretation was that, in this
case, Southern had not applied the policies that it
said were in place for all disabled passengers. The
issue is that the situation was far worse because the
lady in question booked through Passenger Assist, so
the company had plenty of notice that she was on her
way. However, under the unions’ proposals, that train
would have been cancelled in the first place and unable
to depart.
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Access for so many disabled and particularly elderly
passengers is dependent on advice that can be had from
ticket offices. In that respect, can the Minister give
me any reassurance about proposals to close the ticket
office in God’s own town of New Milton?
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I am not specifically familiar with proposals in New
Milton, but I see no reason why we should have fewer
people employed in our stations over the coming years,
but the roles that they discharge need to be broadened
out to involve helping more passengers, not fewer.
Penalty Fares
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9. What assessment he has made of the effect of the use
of the Strategic Rail Authority’s penalty fare rules
2002 by train operating companies on staff meeting
revenue targets; and if he will make a
statement. [908125]
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Train operators are permitted to use penalty fare
schemes to deter fare evasion, while allowing
inspectors to apply discretion when dealing with
passengers. In December 2016, the Department announced
planned improvements to the penalty fares regime by
including a new third stage independent appeals panel.
This and all existing appeals bodies will be
independent of train operators and owning groups.
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I thank the Minister for that response. Does he agree
that train operating companies should not be putting
their staff under undue pressure to issue penalty
fares? Will he commit to look at the rules to ensure
that discretion is always an option where appropriate?
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I understand the point that my hon. Friend seeks to
make. Although revenue protection is very important on
our railways, so, too, is proportionality and
discretion, hence the changes that I have made not just
to the appeals regime, but to the fares and ticketing
action plan that I announced last month. For example,
those who forget their railcards now have more option
to ensure that they are not unfairly penalised. I am
more than happy to meet him to discuss his concerns
further.
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Ticketless travel and fare dodging is one of many
issues on the Chase line. I experienced it at first
hand when I joined the London Midland revenue
protection team last month. The £20 penalty is
insufficient to deter fare dodging. Will my hon. Friend
agree to review penalty fares, so that they do become
an effective deterrent?
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I am more than aware of the sterling work that my hon.
Friend has done to further the cause of revenue
protection by checking tickets on the Chase line, for
which I congratulate her. She is quite right that there
are concerns within the industry that the penalty fares
are set too low. At the moment, I am focusing on
reviewing the appeals system to make sure that it is
fair and proportionate, and discretion has a role to
play. I will keep penalty fares under review.
Wales and Borders: Rail Franchise
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10. What his plans are for the next rail franchise for
Wales and Borders; and if he will make a
statement. [908126]
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It has been agreed in principle that Welsh Government
Ministers will procure and manage the next Wales and
Borders rail franchise. My Department is working
closely with the Welsh Government to ensure the
appropriate transfer of the necessary powers. However,
I want to make it absolutely clear that, as part of
those arrangements, we are ensuring that the train
services and stations used by passengers in England are
protected and, importantly, treated consistently with
those in Wales, both during this procurement process
and across the whole life of the franchise.
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That is a very welcome answer from the Secretary of
State. We have briefed him about the extraordinary
overcrowding on Arriva trains over the past few years,
particularly in the summer months—with the windows
sealed and a lot of people cramming into the carriages,
it has been intolerable. Will he ensure that the next
franchise accommodates the levels required for
passengers to travel safely and more services from
Shrewsbury to Birmingham airport?
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I am aware of the capacity issues on the Wales and the
Borders franchise and, indeed, on the CrossCountry
franchise. One of the challenges, owing to the rapid
growth in recent years, is that there are not enough
diesel trains to go around at the moment. I had the
great pleasure of being at Newton Aycliffe in County
Durham for the launch of the first new hybrid train to
be manufactured there. That will open up the
opportunity for us to deliver significant change to
rolling stock across our network, and will enable us to
address many of the overcrowding challenges to which my
hon. Friend refers.
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The Secretary of State will be aware that he decided
last October to devolve the cross-border franchise to
the Welsh Government, but current legislation does not
allow a public sector organisation to bid for the new
franchise. Will he think again and allow public sector
organisations the ability to bid for the franchise, to
allow the public the best possible service when it
begins?
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The Labour party is keen on renationalising our
railways. What I would remind it is that if its
policies were implemented we would lose the ability to
deliver the new trains that are being delivered right
across this country, paid for by private sector
investment. What Labour Members are calling for is
turning back the clock and having older trains on our
network. I am afraid that that is not my view.
Rail Franchising: Public Sector
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11. What plans he has for the future role of the public
sector as a result of the development of rail
franchising policy. [908128]
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Franchising has been instrumental in improving the
railways for passengers and as part of the enormous
growth in rail usage since privatisation 20 years ago.
Our approach to rail reform is about delivering an
improved service for passengers through better teamwork
between Network Rail and passenger rail franchises, and
making Network Rail more customer focused by giving
more power to its local route managers.
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We now know that the Secretary of State is putting
politics before the interests of passengers, and he is
taking a dogmatic approach by ignoring what could
improve our railway system. He has refused to allow the
Mayor of London to take over suburban services, in
spite of the fact that his predecessor thought that
that was a good idea. The public are in favour of
public ownership: 58% of people polled by Transport for
London are in favour of the Mayor having greater
control over suburban services and only 14% support his
position. Is it not time that public ownership of our
railways was considered by the Government, and are not
the public in favour of it?
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It is hardly a surprise that Conservative Members for
constituencies outside London have doubts about a
Labour Mayor inside London running local services,
particularly when the Mayor delivered a business plan
that did not offer improved capacity and was founded on
a lot of uncosted promises. So far from this Mayor, we
have seen a fare freeze that was not a fare freeze and
a London of no rail strikes with a rail strike last
Monday. I do not take the Mayor’s promises at face
value, I am afraid. We have taken a partnership
approach that also listens to the people of Kent, who
are equally important in this franchise and said they
should be equal partners with the people of London in
designing it.
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In 1993, the public sector British Rail withdrew
services on the Cleethorpes to Sheffield line, making
it a Saturdays-only service, which means that people in
Gainsborough, Brigg and such towns cannot get to
Cleethorpes to enjoy all that it has to offer. As yet,
the private sector has not seen fit to restore that
service to six days a week. Will the Secretary of State
or one of his Ministers meet me and Members for
neighbouring constituencies to discuss the issue?
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We are always happy to talk to my hon. Friend, who
remains a doughty champion of his constituency, but he
is right to make the point that if we turned the clock
back 30 or 40 years to the days of British Rail, the
debate in the House today would be about line closures,
station closures and a reduction in services. Today,
the issues are overcrowding due to numbers rising so
fast, new stations, improved facilities and new trains.
That is the difference between the policies we have
followed and the policies Labour Members want to
follow.
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The Government’s franchising policy lies in tatters,
with desperate attempts to retrofit contracts to
protect operators’ profits and, as revealed yesterday,
National Express taking the money and running, selling
the c2c franchise to the Italian state. The Secretary
of State’s director of passenger services awarded the
disastrous Southern franchise, while owning shares in
the company and advising the winner bidder. The country
has had enough of these sleazy deals. Is it not way
past time for franchising to be scrapped and the UK
rail industry to be revitalised through public
ownership?
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The clock ticks ever backwards. The Opposition do not
want inward investment or private sector investment in
our railways, but, of course, we still do not hear from
them any words on behalf of passengers about the
strikes. The Labour party takes money from the rail
unions and defends them when they are on strike, no
matter what the inconvenience to passengers is. The
Opposition are a disgrace. They should stand up and say
that these strikes should stop. I will say one thing
about the Mayor of London: at least he had the wit and
wisdom this week to say that the strikes are wrong. I
hear nothing from the hon. Gentleman about the strikes
being wrong.
Ultra-low Emission Vehicles
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12. What progress has been made in encouraging the use
of ultra-low emission vehicles. [908129]
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Mr Speaker, I waited to rise to build excited
anticipation. We want the UK to be the world leader in
the take-up and manufacture of ultra-low emission
vehicles. Last year, more ultra-low emission vehicles
were sold in the UK than in any other country in
Europe.
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The British built Nissan Leaf continues to be one of
the most popular electric cars in the world, but what
are the Government doing to support the uptake of other
types of vehicles?
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Like Cicero, we believe that the good of the people is
the chief law, so it is for public wellbeing that we
want to see low emissions from all types of vehicles.
Just yesterday, I announced the results of the low
emission freight and logistics trial, which will see
the Government providing no less than £24 million to
help place about 300 low and zero-emission vehicles
into commercial fleets across the UK.
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One rather wonders whether the results of the trial
were communicated to the right hon. Gentleman’s hero,
Cicero.
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The Minister says that he wants to see emissions
reduced in all types of vehicles, so will he explain to
the House why just 160,000 of the polluting cheat
devices in Volkswagen cars have been remediated out of
the 1.2 million cheat devices that are currently on the
roads in the UK? At this rate of reparation, it will
take three years to clean up Volkswagen’s dirty diesel
cheat devices.
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The hon. Lady is right. Volkswagen needs to do more,
which is why I am going to meet its representatives at
the beginning of next week to tell them exactly that. I
insisted that the company paid £1.1 million, which we
received on Christmas eve—I demanded it as a Christmas
present—because that was the money that taxpayers had
to spend as a result of the emissions scandal.
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I am sorry to say that, since Transport questions
began, news broke in my constituency that another
person has lost their life as a result of a fatal car
accident. I hope that the Minister and the House will
join me in offering condolences to the family and
friends of the victim.
I welcome the fact that the Government will be doing an
awful lot more to encourage the use of ultra-low
emission vehicles. However, councils such as mine want
to introduce a low emission zone, and they will
struggle to introduce electric car charging points and
new enforcement cameras without planning and regulatory
changes. Will my right hon. Friend confirm that these
issues will be at the top of his agenda with the
Department for Communities and Local Government?
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To start with—road safety is a concern of the whole
House. My hon. Friend was right to mention the tragedy
that he did.
Charging points are vital. One of the great challenges
for industry and Government is to ensure that there are
adequate numbers of charging points across the whole
country. That particularly applies in rural areas such
as the one I represent. There may be a need for
legislative change to that effect, and we are
considering that. We are introducing a modern transport
Bill, in which we will address the issue of charging
points.
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Will any Volkswagen executives face criminal damages
here for the diesel emissions scandal?
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I hold no candle for those businesses that do not do
right by consumers or, by the way, by their workers.
The actions that have taken place in the United States,
which I guess is what the hon. Gentleman is referring
to and the actions that are being considered by
Volkswagen customers oblige the Government to think
again about what further steps we can take, and we are
doing so. I have not ruled out a further investigation.
I will discuss that with the Secretary of State and
raise it with Volkswagen at the meeting I described.
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Constituents tell me that one of the barriers to their
buying electric vehicles is the complexity and variety
of public charging facilities, which require them to
carry numerous cards and forms of payment. Does the
Minister have any plans to bring some regulation to
this market to simplify it and make it more accessible
and to encourage more people to purchase electric cars?
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Indeed. Was it not Ronald Reagan who said that the
future does not belong to the fainthearted? We must be
big-hearted and far-sighted in respect of electric
vehicles, and that does mean more charging points. We
will create a regulatory regime sufficient to provide
those charging points and, therefore, to assuage the
public doubts to which my hon. Friend has drawn the
House’s attention.
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Despite all the inducements, only 3% of new car sales
are of electric cars. Should the Minister be doing more
to encourage liquefied petroleum gas switching or
hydrogen fuel cell cars?
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The hon. Gentleman will know about our Go Ultra Low
campaign, which is match funded by industry, and which
is designed to encourage the kind of learning he
described. We need to persuade people that that
switching is desirable. It is partly about charging
points, partly about battery reliability and partly
about people simply knowing that electric vehicles can
be good for them. We will continue that campaign in
exactly the spirit he recommends.
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The VW emissions defeat device cynically deceived 1.2
million vehicle owners in the UK, and I declare that I
am one of them. I am delighted that the Minister is
going to have VW in next week, because drivers in the
UK are being tret unfairly compared with VW drivers in
the US. In the absence of any action by the Government
so far, UK motorists are having to pursue private group
litigation against VW. I want the Minister to
understand how badly let down UK VW drivers feel
because it appears that the Government are letting VW
off the hook, although I hope that that is not the
case. Will he, even at this late stage, offer support
to the motorists in the UK pursuing their own action?
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Yes. I am actually on the same page as the hon. Lady.
By the way, I am glad we have moved on from the
belligerent bombast of earlier—I do not think it did
the Opposition any favours—and she makes her case
reasonably. There is a case for further steps. That is
partly about the retrofit described earlier by the hon.
Member for Wakefield (Mary Creagh), it is partly about
the payment of taxpayer money I described, and it is
partly about the consumer. We should consider further
steps and, having considered them, take them as and
when necessary.
Road Infrastructure and Capacity: North-West
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14. What assessment his Department has made of the
adequacy of road infrastructure and capacity in the
north-west. [908131]
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The Government recently published three strategic
studies into long-standing transport challenges in the
north-west and have committed to major investment based
on the findings. Highways England’s route strategies—by
the way, I set up Highways England on my last visit to
the Department—have assessed the performance of the
strategic roads network and the pressures it faces.
Three strategic studies relate to the north-west.
Refreshed versions, drawing on the evidence submitted
by local stakeholders last year, will be published, and
I think they should be published soon, so let us make
it March—we will publish them then.
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In 2014, the roads investment strategy proposed nine
new projects in the north-west, but, to date, the plans
for just one of them have been announced, while the
Government spend six times more on transport
infrastructure in London than in the north. How does
the Minister think the whole northern powerhouse thing
is going, because, when it comes to transport, like
much of the traffic in St Helens, it seems to be going
nowhere and not very fast?
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I do not think that is typical of the hon. Gentleman—at
least, I hope it is not—because he is being ungenerous
and, to some degree, might I say, not admitting all he
knows. For surely he will know of the A570 linkway,
valued at £3.2 million—that is in St Helens, by the
way. He will know of the Windle Island junction
improvements, valued at £3.2 million—again in St
Helens. He will also know of the Newton-the-Willows
interchange, valued at £14.4 million. We are not only
acting in the north-west but in his constituency, and
he does not want to tell us about it.
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Order. This question is about the north-west of
England. I am not a geographer, but I say to the hon.
Lady that last time I looked, it seemed to me that
Taunton Deane was rather a long way from the north-west
of England.
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It is the surface of the roads in the north-west within
the existing infrastructure that worries me; it is a
bit like driving on the surface of the moon at times.
Where county councils fail to tackle the problem of the
plague of potholes that besets motorists in the
north-west, will the Minister be imaginative and look
at ways whereby district councils could bid for the
money that the Government make available so that they
can tackle this problem?
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My hon. Friend is right that the noise and disturbance
from poor road surfaces has a significant effect on the
journeys of those who use cars and trucks. As he knows,
I have been in the north-west in a vehicle with him—an
open-top vehicle, I hasten to add—waving to his
constituents. I know how important road surfaces are,
so I will certainly look at his suggestion, not only
for the north-west but across the whole nation.
Topical Questions
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T1. If he will make a statement on his departmental
responsibilities. [908105]
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As you will be aware, Mr Speaker, I have said in this
House and elsewhere that I am very committed to improving
the transport situation in the south-west, and I am
pleased today to announce a new phase in our £7 billion
plan for that region. We are launching the next stage of
the formal consultation on a major upgrade to the
A303—the main A road into Devon and Cornwall. This
involves the development of the 1.8-mile tunnel past
Stonehenge, which will protect that world heritage site
from traffic, reduce local congestion, and speed up
journeys to and from the region. We will now be talking
to local people to the west of that tunnel about
precisely which route it should take around the village
immediately to the left. In addition, we are committed to
upgrading the remaining sections of the A303 between the
M3 and the M5 to dual carriageway. The next step will be
public consultations on the A303 Sparkford to Ilchester
and A358 Taunton to Southfields schemes that will come
very shortly.
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A 79-year-old constituent has been repeatedly refused car
hire contracts by leading rental companies. What
assessment has the Secretary of State made of any
restrictions that are being placed on OAPs by these
rental companies?
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I understand my hon. Friend’s concern. This is a very
difficult issue. The Equality Act 2010 provides general
protection against age discrimination for people of all
ages, but there is an exemption for a person conducting
an assessment of risk for the purposes of providing a
financial service to another person. My Department has
not made the assessment that my hon. Friend describes,
but I encourage his constituent to contact the British
Vehicle Rental and Leasing Association, which should be
able to help him in identifying a suitable provider.
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An icy chill is about to descend on parts of the country.
That is not an impending DFT ministerial visit, I hasten
to add—it is of course the impending weather front. Will
the Secretary of State tell us about the state of
preparations for gritting our roads in the coming days?
What discussions has he had with his colleagues and those
in local government to ensure that at least our roads run
more smoothly than our railways?
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I can assure the hon. Gentleman that there was no icy
chill last time I visited Cambridge, when he and I were
there for the first bit of work, albeit a rather small
bit of work with a spade, on the A14 project, which will
make a big difference to Cambridge. My ministerial team
and I have had detailed discussions about this in recent
weeks, and the Under-Secretary, my hon. Friend the Member
for Harrogate and Knaresborough (Andrew Jones), has been
in regular contact with local authorities. We have in
this country, if not a salt mountain, plenty of salt and
plenty of grit. We estimate that we have what is
necessary to cope with the winter ahead, but we will
obviously keep that under review.
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I thank the Secretary of State; let us hope that we are
well prepared. Taking him back to the time just before
Christmas, given that soon after his visit to Cambridge
he told the Evening Standard that cycle lanes cause
problems for road users, will he clarify exactly who he
thinks road users are? While he is thinking about
cyclists—a helpful clue—could he explain why it is taking
such an extraordinarily long time to produce a cycling
and walking investment strategy?
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Cyclists use cycle lanes, and motorists and other road
users use the roads alongside them. That is fairly
straightforward, to be honest. If the hon. Gentleman is
eagerly anticipating our cycling and walking strategy, he
does not have long to wait.
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T2. Will the Minister of State’s inspirational words
about beauty be matched by the deeds of Highways
England? [908106]
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It does not surprise me that my right hon. Friend has
drawn attention to my rapturously received and
beautifully articulated speech on beauty. He is right to
say that we now need action. We have established a design
panel at Highways England, and in a few weeks’ time we
will produce a new design guide. It will dismay all the
crass modernists and harsh brutalists, but it will
delight all those who believe that our public
infrastructure can be stylish and elegant as well as
deliver the necessary utility. My role is only this: to
rediscover the age-old golden thread with which all of
that will be woven.
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Almost as stylish and elegant as the right hon.
Gentleman, I do not doubt.
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T3. I know that the Under-Secretary of State for
Transport, the hon. Member for Blackpool North and
Cleveleys (Paul Maynard), is as frustrated as I am by the
constant delays to the tram-train project between
Sheffield and Rotherham. Will he confirm that passenger
services will start next year? Will he also give a date
by which lessons can be learned from that project and
rolled out across the country? Will he give particular
consideration to the availability of hybrid tram-trains,
which would mean that the vehicles could run on
non-electrified heavy rail routes? [908107]
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The hon. Gentleman makes an important point about hybrid
tram-trains and I will look into it. As far as I am
aware, the project is on track and on schedule, but I am
particularly keen to understand the lessons that can be
learned from it, to make sure that any projects elsewhere
are done properly and to time the first time around.
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T6. The excellent report “The Free Ports Opportunity”,
written by my hon. Friend the Member for Richmond (Yorks)
(Rishi Sunak), sets out the possibilities for UK ports to
become free ports, post-Brexit. It estimates that that
could create 86,000 jobs in the UK. Will the Minister of
State outline the possibilities for ports such as that in
Newhaven in my constituency to become free ports,
post-Brexit? [908111]
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I have with me the report to which my hon. Friend refers.
It is an excellent piece of work, and I have already
arranged to meet its author. I initiated the maritime
growth study when I was last in the Department, but it is
time to refresh that. It must be a living document. As
part of that exercise, we will consider the role of ports
now that we are freed from the clutches of the European
Union. My ambitions are, as ever, measured and modest: I
seek nothing more than for Britannia to rule the waves.
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T4. Ministers will be aware of the comments in Public
Health England’s recent alcohol evidence review that
drinking alcohol up to England’s drink-drive limit
increases the risks of fatal accidents by 13 times. We
have the highest drink-drive limit of any country in
Europe expect for Malta, so will the Government look
again at reducing the limit as a matter of urgency, in
line with the views of the Police Federation, the RAC,
the House of Lords, the Fire Brigades Union and 77% of
the public? [908108]
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We have no plans to review the drink-drive limit. The
level of 80 mg per 100 ml of blood is one of the higher
ones, but no country has a better record than us on road
safety and improving performance in tackling
drink-driving. Taken together, it is the combination of
the right limit and enforcement and the cultural belief
that drink-driving is wrong that makes progress.
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Before Christmas, a parent at Morley Primary School in my
constituency was badly injured when driving in the
school’s vicinity, because another car was going too
fast, which is a regular occurrence. I have consistently
requested that the county council change the speed limit
and move the signs—only move them—but it consistently
refuses to do so because, it says, nobody has been killed
yet. I do not want a child, parent or anybody else to be
killed. Is there any way that the Minister can change the
criteria by which councils decide to change such speed
limits?
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Let’s hear from the fella.
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Local authorities already have the powers to introduce
lower speed limits where they think it is appropriate. I
think that that should apply especially around schools.
The decision does not have to be a reactive one—waiting
until something happens—and it is inappropriate to think
in such a way. I suggest that I write to the Highways
Authority in Derbyshire to highlight the powers that it
already has. My right hon. Friend the Minister
responsible for roads will visit my hon. Friend’s
constituency in a fortnight or so to discuss roads, so
perhaps she could pick the matter up with him then.
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T7. Brexit will cause a dangerous free-for-all in
cabotage. Will the Minister agree to meet the Scottish
Government to consider how to avoid
that? [908113]
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I think we are some way away from that. Discussions have
to take place between our Government and the European
Union on arrangements post-Brexit. They will take place,
and we will inform the House of progress on the matter in
due course.
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A start has been made in the first road investment
strategy on upgrading the A47 from Lowestoft to the A1. I
would be grateful if the Minister could confirm that he
will work with me and other East Anglian colleagues on
the second road investment strategy to ensure that this
good work continues.
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My hon. Friend will know that we managed to achieve what
he wanted in respect of the bridge in his constituency,
but he is right that we need to do more in respect of
RIS2. To his customary eloquence and commitment he has
added prophetic powers, because just this morning I am
writing to all the colleagues he describes inviting them
to participate in that process. This will be for the
people and shaped by the people’s representatives.
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T8. The A75 in my constituency benefits from Euro-route
designation. Will the Secretary of State assure my
constituents that he will support the continued
designation of Euro-routes after the UK leaves the
European Union? [908114]
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I have to confess that I have never heard anyone in this
country, north or south of the border, refer to an A road
in the United Kingdom as a Euro-route. If they cease to
be Euro-routes after we leave the European Union, I
suspect that we will be able to count the number of
people who miss that on the fingers of one hand.
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I declare an interest as a daily commuter on the east
coast main line, which is a very well run strategic
route. Service outages, infrequent as they are, can be
very disruptive. May I ask the Minister to prevail on
train operating companies and Network Rail to improve
communications with passengers in real time, to ensure
that passengers are made aware of these problems and can
make alternative arrangements as necessary?
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It is entirely right to say that passenger information
during disruption is something that all train operating
companies and Network Rail need to improve. Not only do
we need a single source of information that is
consistent, but it needs to provide the most up-to-date
information. It is not acceptable for people who have
checked their phones on leaving home and thought that
their train was on time to find, by the time they get to
the station, that the train has been cancelled. That is
not good enough.
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Will the Secretary of State reject the new proposal of a
spur line from HS2 in the constituency of Bolsover
between Hilcote and Morton? Not only will it cut the
Blackwell council in two, but it will destroy scores of
houses in the village of Newton. Will he have a look at
the letter I have sent him, in order to pacify the people
of Blackwell about this mad idea?
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Of course I will. I have taken a close interest in the
eastern leg, and I have been up and down most of the
route myself. I am very keen that we deliver the economic
benefits, but that we do so in the way that works best
for local communities. I am happy to take a look at the
issue that the hon. Gentleman has raised.
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It has been yet another week of misery for hundreds of
thousands of passengers on Southern rail. Given that the
unions have received guarantees on jobs, on pay and—from
the independent rail safety regulator—on safety, would
the Government now support Conservative proposals to
limit strikes, or at least the impact of strikes, via
legislation?
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There is a lot of interest in the matter, and a lot of
calls have been made for such measures to be taken. We
are considering carefully how we approach future issues.
Of course, nothing in legislative terms would solve the
current dispute. I think my hon. Friend will join me in
expressing the disappointment of Conservative Members
about the fact that we have not heard from the Opposition
today one word of regret or condemnation, and not one
call for the unions to go back to work. They just do not
care.
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The RAC has estimated that drivers have been over-charged
by hundreds of millions of pounds owing to over-zealous
enforcement by private car parks. Requiring operators to
sign up to accredited trade associations would help to
stop that type of behaviour. Does the Secretary of State
agree that having all companies sign up would ensure that
their business models were based on fair treatment of the
motorist?
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I will happily look into the matter that the hon. Lady
raises. It is actually the responsibility of the
Department for Communities and Local Government, but I
will take it up with my ministerial colleagues.
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In view of the increasing number of passengers and
employees using Stansted airport, the growth of the
Cambridge biomedical campus, the prospect of Crossrail 2,
the announcement of major housing developments and the
welcome prospect of new, high-performance trains, what
plans has my hon. Friend for increasing track capacity on
the West Anglia line to take advantage of those factors?
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My right hon. Friend is right to raise all those factors.
He will know of the important work that the taskforce has
done. We are also looking at timetabling, to which I hope
he can make substantial contribution. He is right to
raise the matter and we are looking at it very closely.
Control period 6 announcements are on the way and I hope
that his concerns will be reflected in them.
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This time two years ago, when the Blackpool North
electrification scheme faced delays and the rail Minister
was a Back Bencher, he rightly demanded answers from
Ministers. There is now real concern that the
electrification of the midland main line will be further
postponed or even cancelled north of Corby and Kettering.
Will the Minister provide the House with the clarity that
he sought for his constituency and give an unequivocal
assurance that this key Conservative manifesto promise
will not be broken?
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We are continuing to work towards the key outputs that
matter most to passengers. I recognise the importance of
the network, and my right hon. Friend the Member for
Loughborough (Nicky Morgan) will work on a cross-party
basis to identify the key regional priorities that we
want to be reflected in the new franchise. I look forward
to working with the hon. Member for Nottingham South
(Lilian Greenwood).
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In Broxtowe, there is widespread and cross-party support
for HS2. Of course, we get the east midlands hub at
Towton, but there is still concern about the route. Will
my right hon. Friend assure residents in Trowell,
Strelley Village and Nuthall that their voices will be
listened to and that, if necessary, changes to the route
will be made without affecting the timetable for
delivery?
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I can absolutely give my right hon. Friend that
commitment, as I did to the hon. Member for Bolsover (Mr
Skinner) a moment ago. The route will bring huge benefits
to the east midlands and to Yorkshire, including the
areas around Sheffield, but I want to make it clear that
we will be as thoughtful and careful as we can about the
detail of the route. The reason for the consultation is
that it gives us a chance to listen to those views, and
we will.
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Mr Speaker, you will be aware of the Vauxhall car fire
scandal. Last month, I hosted in the House of Commons
around 25 people who had been affected, and heard about
traumatised children and how the incidents led to
increases in insurance excesses and cost families
thousands of pounds. Will a Minister agree to meet not
me—I am not interested in meeting Ministers myself—but
the families of those affected?
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I am aware of the issue and the Driver and Vehicle
Standards Agency is taking action with Vauxhall to remedy
the situation. I would be happy to meet the hon.
Gentleman and some of the families affected.
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Will my right hon. Friend provide an update on the
progress of plans for a new cross-Pennine road link?
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As my hon. Friend will know, we have recently announced
plans to dual the A66. We are currently waiting for the
conclusion of the work on the potential for a
trans-Pennine tunnel. I give my hon. Friend an absolute
assurance that whether or not it is recommended that that
work go ahead, our commitment to delivering trans-Pennine
improvements will not be affected in any way by the
outcome of that study.
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