Moved by Lord Watson of Wyre Forest That this House takes note of
the case for a comprehensive Industrial Strategy for the United
Kingdom. Lord Watson of Wyre Forest (Lab) My Lords, I draw
attention to my entries in the register, particularly for UK Music
and Windward Global. This Motion would not be debated in the
legislative assemblies of the major economies: not in Germany or
the USA, nor France, Japan, China, South Korea, nor any other
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That this House takes note of the case for a comprehensive
Industrial Strategy for the United Kingdom.
(Lab)
My Lords, I draw attention to my entries in the register,
particularly for UK Music and Windward Global.
This Motion would not be debated in the legislative assemblies of
the major economies: not in Germany or the USA, nor France,
Japan, China, South Korea, nor any other developed nation on
earth. Why? Because as the manufacturing trade group Make UK
says, the United Kingdom is unique among advanced economies in
not having an overarching, comprehensive industrial strategy.
I know that the Minister will point to the Government’s plan for
growth, introduced under the previous-but-one Prime Minister in
March 2021. I suspect he will want to advance the argument that
the plan for growth, with its specific focus on five areas of
economic activity, constitutes a strategy. I am sure he will be
keen to mention the £500 million per year that the Government
have earmarked for 20,000 R&D businesses, along with £650
million for life sciences. Let me say at the start that these are
all commendable initiatives, and worthwhile in their own right,
but they do not yet form part of an overarching strategy. I know
that because, in June 2023, the then Minister in the Lords
said:
“I think noble Lords will agree that this is a time for
specialisation rather than a single, overarching, broad
strategy”.—[Official Report, 20/6/23; col. 93.]
I disagree with that assertion.
I do not think we are doing enough to make a decisive difference
to the UK’s economic prospects, given our sluggish growth,
flatlining wages, regional disparities and chronic
underinvestment. I invite the Minister to cogitate on why it is
that the UK is unique in not having an industrial strategy, while
reminding colleagues that a plan is definitely not a strategy. We
have had a plethora of announcements, initiatives and
institutions since 2010 and a constantly changing cast list:
those 13 years have seen 11 growth strategies, nine Business
Secretaries and seven Chancellors. This is partly, I am sure, why
Make UK has said that:
“A lack of a proper, planned, industrial strategy is the UK’s
Achilles heel”.
Meanwhile, the Centre for Economic Policy Research reports on the
renewed interest within our competitor nations in
“effective tools and strategies to promote economic development
and address new challenges, from supply chain risks to national
security and climate change”.
It further says that industrial policy has featured significantly
in the world’s largest economies. Again, I ask the Minister: why
is the UK the odd one out?
What then is the case for an industrial strategy? An industrial
strategy would
“help young people develop the skills they need to do the
high-paid, high-skilled jobs of the future. It backs our country
for the long term: creating the conditions where successful
businesses can emerge and grow, and helping them to invest in the
future … it identifies the industries that are of strategic value
to our economy and works to create a partnership between
government and industry to nurture them … it will … propel
Britain to global leadership of the industries of the future—from
artificial intelligence and big data to clean energy and
self-driving vehicles”.
Those are not my words; they are the words of the then Prime
Minister, the right honourable Member for Maidenhead, in her
foreword to her Government’s Industrial Strategy document in
2017. It is hard to disagree with that, and even harder to
understand why the Government cancelled it so soon afterwards. It
is quite a head-scratcher.
Ministers also abolished the Industrial Strategy Council in 2021.
It included Andy Haldane from the Bank of England, the Community
union’s Roy Rickhuss, and ceramicist Emma Bridgewater—all of them
were given their marching orders. If you do not have an
industrial strategy, you do not need an Industrial Strategy
Council to guide it. The respected Institute for Government
states:
“Weak productivity performance and regional imbalances have
worried politicians for a long time, as has a sense that the UK
does not make enough of its abundant strengths in science. These
alone are important justifications for an industrial
strategy”.
The case is overwhelming. It is why the cry has gone up from
trade union leaders, former Conservative and Labour Cabinet
Ministers, civic leaders, entrepreneurs and investors. It is no
wonder that 99% of British manufacturers back the need for an
industrial strategy, and yet we do not have one.
Thankfully, we have a lot to build on. On manufacturing, the
Economist recently reported a survey of the public that asked
respondents to state where they thought the country ranked in
global manufacturing league tables. The median answer was 43rd,
which was wrong. The latest comparable data makes Britain the
world’s eighth-biggest manufacturer. The Economist said:
“Many manufacturers believe that the successes of recent years
have come about despite rather than because of government
policy”.
What would a new industrial strategy look like? My starting point
is that an effective industrial strategy is not about picking
winners or propping up losers, or meddling in markets when they
work, and it is not about Ministers interfering in the business
of business. It is about working in partnership with firms to
identify problems and fix them; to see opportunities and seize
them; to ask not why but why not.
The moon landing in 1969 needed a strategy that included not only
aeronautics but electronics, nutrition, product design, computer
software and engineering. The UK right now needs to define its
moonshot equivalent. It could be fixing the climate crisis,
although we know that is a global challenge. It could be that we
are the first country in the world to have a sovereign quantum
computing facility. It may be that we choose to build homes for
everyone before they are 30, and orient things around that. My
point is that there should be a small number of clearly
understood and defined national goals where there is currently a
vacuum. I am greatly influenced by the work of the economist
Mariana Mazzucato, who said:
“Industrial strategy thus holds a dual promise: helping to
address climate change and revitalizing industry so that it can
compete in the twenty-first century. We need not accept … a
trade-off … The two can go hand in hand if green policies are
deployed to fuel growth and innovation, and if sustainable
practices are woven into the fabric of how we consume, move,
invest, and build”.
A new industrial strategy would take full cognisance of the UK’s
context. We have a growing and ageing population, and a huge
wealth of talent and expertise in science, technology and
manufacturing. We have world-class universities, and fantastic
entrepreneurs and inventors. We are a global leader in creative
industries—gaming, film and music—and native speakers of the
English language. We are a great nation, straining at the leash
to be allowed to get ahead. It would view climate change as both
an existential threat as well as an opportunity for economic
growth and technological advance, leading the way in carbon
capture, renewable energy, and post-carbon manufacturing of
everything from hydrogen to nuclear, and from electric vehicles
to the next generation of batteries for our phones. It would
negate the need for a Department for Levelling Up because it
would promote economic activity and growth in every nation and
region, not just the south-east and London.
It would provide a stable platform for long-term investment and
sustained growth instead of political chopping and changing,
which business always tells us is the drag anchor on its success.
It would represent a true partnership with small and medium
enterprises, growing companies, unicorns, long-established
British businesses and government at every level of our devolved
constitution. It would allow businesses to thrive, turn profits
and create decent, well-paid jobs, and it would allow the state
to invest these products of growth into our public realm and
shared services. Without economic growth, we do not grow as a
society. It would allow the next generation to grow tall.
In my peroration, I will highlight one area where the absurd
absence of an industrial strategy is most keenly felt and where
the price is most heavily paid: the steel industry. Unless we act
soon, the UK will lose its ability to make primary, or virgin,
steel forever—[Interruption.]
(Con)
My Lords, I apologise for interrupting the noble Lord. I remind
noble Lords that speaking on mobile phones is not permitted in
the Chamber.
(Lab)
We will be the only advanced nation unable to make steel, in a
time of global turmoil and uncertainty. This would represent
criminal negligence. I note the announcement that Tata will close
the two blast furnaces at Port Talbot in a few months and install
an electric arc furnace, which would cut productive capacity.
This is mindless vandalism to our manufacturing base. The salt in
the wounds is that the Government are throwing £500 million at
Tata, to lose 3,000 jobs in steel manufacturing. British Steel in
Scunthorpe is looking to close its blast furnaces. These twin
actions will mean that we have to import primary steels, with
huge costs to the environment.
The trade unions have a plan to transition to cleaner, greener
steel production and safeguard local jobs. Community union and
the GMB have a workable, serious plan. Is the Minister aware that
Tata indicated that this plan is credible and viable but was
rejected by the Government on the grounds of cost? Can he comment
on the exact nature of the £500 million offered to Tata, and
whether this is in any way related to Tata’s battery plant in
Somerset? Does the Minister know that electric arc furnaces
cannot produce the base steel that is needed for tin
manufacture—yet 30% of Port Talbot’s output is for tin cans? It
has the orders, but the means to fulfil them are being removed.
Has he read the rescue plan?
I do not want to make the case just for saving jobs in this part
of Wales, nor focus on the bitter human cost that will be paid by
working people and their families in these proud communities. I
do not want to point out just that 20,000 jobs in the supply
chain rely on this plant. I am sure others will want to point out
the similarities with the destruction of our manufacturing base
in the 1980s, with the price paid by miners, steel-workers and
skilled engineers and their families in that dark decade of
deindustrialisation and demoralisation of whole towns and cities.
I want to link what is going on with steel today with my central
argument for the need for an industrial strategy.
An industrial strategy must seek answers to the central questions
of our age: our negotiation with rapid technological change, our
need to decarbonise, our desperate need for growth and the big
shifts in our society. An industrial strategy can mitigate the
risks, manage the transition and soften the hammer-blows that
rapid change can bring. This is not top-down statism, but not
free-market fundamentalism either; it is a true partnership with
communities, companies, industries and government.
An industrial strategy must view the steel industry as part of a
bigger landscape of manufacturing, and manufacturing as part of a
bigger landscape of economic activity. It must view economic
activity as the basis of our society, culture, well-being and
national character. All the moving parts interact and
interrelate, just as all humans do. What happens in Port Talbot,
in Scunthorpe, in the long-ignored corners of our country and in
the left-behind towns and estates happens to us all. This is an
essential truth that the Government seem to have missed. I beg to
move.
4.39pm
(Lab)
I thank my noble friend Lord Watson for initiating this debate
and look forward to the maiden speech by the noble Lord, .
It is not that long ago that the Government had an industrial
strategy. When the noble Lord, , was Minister at the Department
for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, he referred to it
more than 300 times, including Written Answers, between 2017 and
2019. Described as a modern industrial strategy, it covered the
Good Work Plan, the environment, safeguarding the post office
network, life sciences, productivity and skills training. In a
major debate in January 2018, the noble Lord, , referred to contributions
by
“the grandfather of industrial strategies”,
the noble Lord, , and
“the godfather of industrial strategies”,—[Official Report,
8/1/18; col. 105.]
my noble friend . He also referred to
contributions by my noble friends and . Perhaps they were slightly
less optimistic about the Government’s White Paper and he thought
their contributions were “Eeyoreish”—difficult to say—but it was
clearly central to government strategy, so what happened?
went to the Back Benches; the
noble Lord, , went to the Back Benches;
industrial strategy disappeared from the title of the government
department. Andy Haldane, who had been appointed chair of the
independent Industrial Strategy Council to oversee the
Government’s industrial strategy, commented on its subsequent
abolition and the closure of the industrial strategy directorate
in the department, saying:
“In the UK, industrial strategy is dead”.
He was lukewarm about the substitute policy, the plan for
growth.
Make UK, the body representing the manufacturing industry, has
claimed that the lack of a formal strategy is damaging to the UK,
regionally and internationally, and called for, as my noble
friend Lord Watson said, a long-term national manufacturing plan
similar to those in Germany, China and the US. This has been
backed up by research from the CEPR and the OECD. Why is the UK
the only major economy not to have an industrial strategy? Does
the Minister agree with the CBI that “the clock is ticking” for
the UK to publish an industrial strategy that can rival other
markets in fast-growing green economy sectors?
4.42pm
(CB)
My Lords, I join other noble Lords in thanking the noble Lord,
Lord Watson, for having secured this debate and in welcoming the
opportunity to listen to the maiden speech of the noble Lord,
. I will confine my
comments to the life sciences sector and in so doing draw noble
Lords’ attention to my registered interests, in particular the
fact that I am chairman of the Office for Strategic Coordination
of Health Research and King’s Health Partners and actively
engaged, outside this House, in biomedical research.
It is often argued that it is difficult to find a true position
for an industrial strategy, as we have heard, that does not
define a top-down impact by government and the state on what
ultimately needs to be entrepreneurial activity to drive
opportunity, growth and innovation in many sectors. But in a
sector as complicated as the life sciences, where we need to
bring together the universities, our health service, the
commercial sector, big pharma, biotech, health tech and medtech,
commercial sectors, entrepreneurs, financiers and legal and other
professionals, it is essential that a framework exists so that
government intervention can facilitate the creation, for
instance, of a highly skilled workforce, the environment in which
science can be delivered at scale and pace, a health service that
can make an appropriate contribution to the delivery of life
sciences and, indeed, the appropriate data infrastructure to
ensure that a life sciences strategy and its broader contribution
to our economy can be delivered.
Is the Minister content that His Majesty’s Government’s
strategies, over many iterations, such as Life Sciences Vision
and other commitments over the last 10 to 12 years, are actually
delivering what has been anticipated? This sector is vital to our
economy. It is estimated that some 250,000 highly skilled jobs
attend the life sciences sector currently, contributing over £80
billion to our economy and sustaining some 63,000 organisations.
It is anticipated that if the life sciences vision can be fully
implemented over the next 30 years, there will be a further £68
billion contributing to our GDP, and there will be a 40%
reduction in attributable burden of disease—not only wealth
creation but health gain.
Regrettably, many of the indicators suggest that we are not
sustaining our position. Is the Minister content that we are
doing enough to ensure that we remain globally competitive?
4.46pm
(Non-Afl) (Maiden
Speech)
My Lords, as I rise in this place for the first time, may I say
what a pleasure it is to follow the noble Lord, ? I thank him and all Members
for the warm welcome I have had so far. I also take a moment to
thank the excellent staff, especially the doorkeepers for their
kind and assured guidance as I find my way in this place.
After over a decade as a civil servant in His Majesty’s Treasury,
it is especially pleasing—and somewhat daunting—to see so many
familiar faces, friends and former political masters in this
place. If I may, I would like especially to pay tribute to one of
my former bosses, , whom I served as
principal private secretary and who passed last year, sadly. He
was an outstanding public servant, and a man of real depth and
values, who I will miss dearly.
I also thank the former Prime Minister, , for luring me back into
public service after over a decade in the private sector, and for
giving me the opportunity to serve my country and my Government
at a time of real challenge.
Much of my career, both in public service and the private sector,
has been take up with questions of economic policy, investment
and growth. There is one theme that has struck me time and again,
a theme that the noble Lord, Lord Watson, touched on briefly. It
is the huge opportunity that we in the UK have to boost
prosperity, if only we can find the right approach to address the
stark regional and geographic disparities in productivity and
economic performance. From regional development agencies to the
northern powerhouse to levelling up, there have been many
attempts and some good progress. No more so than in Manchester,
my hometown, which I have seen recover from its post-industrial
slump to thrive in a services-led economy, and have the sorts of
jobs, skills and investments that any city in the world would
envy. I wish only that it would also envy the leading football
team in Manchester—that is, the red one—but that may be too much
to wish for right now.
Yet there is much more to do, and the UK remains one of the most
geographically unequal countries in the OECD. As this House
considers the need for a comprehensive industrial strategy, I
would argue that an essential ingredient is government working in
tandem with the private sector to unlock the huge potential of
those towns and areas that have not yet seen the sort of economic
success of Manchester, let alone London and the south-east.
I would also observe the impact of such disparity, coupled with
the phenomena of geographic disparity, on social mobility.
Speaking personally, if I may, I feel truly lucky to be born into
the British Jewish community, and I celebrate the multitude of
fantastic personal stories in that community; for instance,
families finding personal and economic success within a
generation of arriving in this country with only the possessions
in their suitcase, something my own father experienced as a
second-generation immigrant. He became the first of the
Rosenfield family to attend a grammar school and university and
to take up a profession.
Does the Minister agree that a credible industrial strategy must
seek to address those geographic disparities, not through
short-term subsidies but through long-term investment in
infrastructure, education and skills, and a stable framework to
support growth and empower the private sector?
4.50pm
(Con)
My Lords, it is a great pleasure to welcome the maiden speech
from the noble Lord, , to congratulate him on
the points that he made and to welcome him to this House. By
happy accident I follow him in this debate, and I realised that
there were some rather significant career parallels. We both
began our careers as Treasury officials and both then moved to 10
Downing Street. He worked for ; I worked for Margaret
Thatcher. I am now here on the Tory Benches and he is a
Cross-Bencher, which may tell us something about the particular
qualities of bipartisanship that he will bring to this Chamber
and which I am sure will lead to many interventions in the months
to come.
I register my interests, particularly as president of the
Resolution Foundation and chair of Innovate Cambridge.
Industrial strategy is a very fraught concept, which is sometimes
argued about too much. It has a very simple meaning. All of us
believe that we can promote economic growth by horizontal
policies that apply across the entire economy: a good tax system
and an efficient planning system. Industrial strategy says that
there also have to be vertical policies addressing particular
sectors, particular places—as we just heard so eloquently—and
particular technologies. I have observed many Ministers who
arrive in government determined to have purely those general
horizontal policies and find that they are brought into having to
take decisions—where to make transport investment, exactly what
kit to buy, how to spend a limited science and technology
budget—and they need some criterion for reaching those decisions.
That is why you need some kind of strategic framework.
I welcome the excellent opportunity of this debate and the
opening speech. However, I quarrel with some of the terms in the
Motion before us, such as “comprehensive”. There are some sectors
that just want to be left alone; I think “comprehensive” may be
too ambitious. It should be comprehensive where there is a need,
certainly, but I am not so sure that you can have something as
comprehensive as Labour’s National Plan of 1965. Similarly,
“industrial” has rather a precise meaning. Our work at the
Resolution Foundation in our recent economic inquiry showed that
it was absolutely clear that Britain has a real comparative
advantage in services, which is an area where we can do more. For
me, with my interest in higher education, I think of higher
education as a really important British export industry.
Therefore, any kind of industrial strategy really has to cover
services as well.
There are, of course, risks to industrial strategy, and it is
just possible that in subsequent interventions we may have
warnings of some of those risks. One risk is producer capture:
big, powerful lobbying firms getting things for their advantage.
One reason why I very much agree with the excellent points made
by the noble Lord, , is that one of the arguments
for investing in disruptive new technologies is that they rarely
favour incumbents. They are a great way of shaking things up,
hence the particular importance I attach to technologies being
supported.
One of the reasons why I very much regret the Government’s
decision to abolish the Industrial Strategy Council is that the
real purpose of that council was not to write detailed plans but
to keep industrial strategy honest by scrutinising what was being
done, what was proving to be effective and should be grown, and
what was ineffective and should be abandoned. I very much hope
that it will be possible in the future to recreate something like
that excellent body.
4.54pm
(Lab)
It is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, , and to join him in
congratulating the noble Lord, , on an excellent maiden
speech. We look forward to his contributions to this House in the
future. I thank my noble friend for securing this debate. He will
recall our time together as Ministers in the MoD and my
enthusiasm then for industrial strategy for defence, and he will
not be surprised that my belief in the importance of industrial
strategy for our national wealth, our security and the
challenging transition to net zero has not dimmed since. I draw
the House’s attention to my entry in the register of
interests.
History tells us that there is a clear dividing line between
Conservative and Labour Governments when it comes to industrial
strategy. Labour has consistently used industrial strategy as a
core part of its policy framework, based on a commitment to set a
long-term vision in partnership with industry, to help businesses
grow, to create well-paid jobs across regions and to compete on a
global stage, within a belief that it is part of the role of a
responsible Government to have the courage to make choices that
seek to build a fair, meritocratic and prosperous nation.
I shall concentrate in my time in this debate to offer eight
principles based on my experience in government in developing and
implementing industrial strategy that I believe are key to making
sure that the implementation of industrial strategy works. There
should be a commitment by the Prime Minister to ensure that the
UK has an industrial strategy that will provide the long-term
certainty that many noble Lords have mentioned, that commitment
to work with industry, business, academia and local leaders to
develop the strategy together; the full engagement across
government of all the relevant government departments,
particularly the Treasury, to ensure that the various levers that
the departments have—be it regulation, procurement, skills or
finance—are all brought to bear in a policy that helps to create
synergy between them and prevent rivalry; the recruitment and
development of a cadre of civil servants with the knowledge and
experience to develop policies based on a sound understanding of
the science, technology—as the noble Lord, , mentioned—and, most
importantly, the processes of innovation and wealth creation;
painstaking leadership by a Minister in a powerful government
department of the policy development process, with single-point
accountability to the Prime Minister; active engagement to create
that consensus, maintained over time, and a planning horizon that
provides the certainty for industry needed beyond one Parliament;
once the strategy has been developed, provision of the resources,
oversight and ownership to ensure its implementation, ideally by
the same Minister who led its development; and, finally, a
biannual review to take stock, identify what is and is not
working and make the necessary corrections.
None of this is rocket science, but it requires a new type of
politics that goes beyond the soundbites and provides proper
answers to complex questions—that delivers the how as well as the
what. Whoever wins the next general election will face some major
challenges—ones that can be managed if these principles are put
into practice.
4.58pm
(Lab)
My Lords, I offer congratulations to my noble friend Lord Watson
on securing this debate, and a warm welcome to the noble Lord,
Lord Rosenfield—I appreciated his speech.
Arguably, the biggest failure of the British economy over several
decades now has been that we face a falling share of global
investment in industry in its widest sense, including the service
and digital industries. That means we have to have the confidence
of investors—and by “investors” I mean everybody from the boards
of multinational companies, those who run the great sovereign
funds which decide where the money goes, those who run private
equity firms and, indeed, those who run the more mundane pension
schemes and the ordinary Joe who has a few shares. They all want
to invest and they take the risk to invest, but one of the
essential contradictions of capitalism—of which there are a
few—is that those who earn their money by taking risks actually
require a degree of certainty. That applies to investors of all
sorts. I remember industrial policies, or whatever they were
called at the time, from Harold Wilson onwards, and none of them
lasted long enough, none of them was clear enough and none of
them convinced the investors of the world that Britain was the
place to invest. It was different in other countries, as my noble
friend Lord Watson said.
Over the past 48 hours, I have met three sectors of business. All
of them are operating under what may be a high-level industrial
strategy: the pathway to net zero. Each told me the same thing,
in effect. I met the nuclear industry, which has suffered over
decades through changes to industrial policy when it needs a
real, long-term environment. I met the automotive industry, which
is now committed to moving away from fossil fuel-powered vehicles
but sees the Government changing dates and not giving enough
certainty there. And I met the new sector of carbon capture and
storage, which will be another vital sector in delivering net
zero but needs greater certainty from government; it has already
had two false starts in developing technology where we could have
been world leaders.
We need an industrial strategy that provides certainty both to
investors and to the future workforce that we hope to recruit and
benefit from. It needs to be a just and fair transition—fair to
workers and to different parts of the country. That means it has
to involve an effective medium-term to long-term policy for
training, including the retraining of existing staff and the
training of future generations. We will have to take the
workforce, including the trade unions, on board in this; we will
also have to take those who are in different parts of the country
into consideration in developing the strategy.
But a long-term strategy is what we need. We have not had it
properly and we need it even more desperately now.
5.01pm
(CB)
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Watson, and congratulate
the noble Lord, , on his excellent maiden
speech.
I spoke in the debate on the Government’s industrial strategy
White Paper in 2018. Sadly, the scope of the plan laid out then
was not followed through. Since then, the Government have brought
forward amended but less detailed strategies, in 2021 and 2023.
There has been a lack of co-ordination and consistency in UK
industrial policy. In my view, it would be immensely helpful to
business if we could have a more comprehensive strategy—that is,
a framework offering consistency. The strategy should set out a
long-term vision for growth, skills and productivity, as well as
increased competitiveness—and of course, innovation today is
critical. Importantly, a long-term growth strategy needs to give
investors confidence to make long-term decisions.
Noting priority sectors such as the life sciences, advanced
manufacturing, the creative industries, digital and green is
essential, but can we please not overlook the wider economy?
Governments tend to be overly attracted to the obviously
21st-century sectors and do not pay enough attention to less
eye-catching but vital sectors, for example financial and
professional services and transport. The financial and
professional services sector is one of the UK’s competitive
strengths, supporting 2.5 million jobs and contributing £100
billion in taxes each year. London was recently ranked number one
for the fourth successive year among leading international
financial centres. A recent City and practitioner report
recommended that a goal should be to anchor the UK as a leader in
sustainable finance. It also called for a long-term strategy for
a competitive financial and professional services sector to build
support for
“the growth of potential areas of competitive advantage such as
sustainable finance, and emerging technologies”.
UK-based financial and professional services play a critical role
in the domestic and global green finance ecosystem. London ranked
first in the latest Global Green Finance Index, published last
October. Time does not permit me to comment on transport, but it
is an obvious case for greening and the march to net zero. Look
how the sector delivered during the pandemic and, indeed, at all
times—although perhaps I should leave railways out of that.
Moving to my close, I would personally warn against too
prescriptive an approach in the strategy. A lighter touch seems
appropriate. Being practical has always been a core UK strength.
In my view, there is a need for any party hoping to win the next
election to get cracking on industrial strategy. Suggestions of a
royal commission risk taking too long.
Finally, it is essential to simplify and speed up the planning
process while protecting our precious countryside: brownfield
sites, please, wherever possible.
5.04pm
(Lab)
I add my congratulations to the noble Lord, , on his maiden speech. I
am grateful to my noble friend Lord Watson for securing this
debate to allow discussion of this area, which is crucial for
enabling future economic growth and prosperity across the UK.
The transition to net zero presents a great opportunity for the
UK to realise its ambitions for economic growth, lower energy
bills, energy security and jobs. A refreshed industrial strategy
will be vital to keep investments on track, ensuring that the
UK’s reputation as a global leader does not go further backwards
and that essential investments flow into the UK and not just to
our global competitors. Businesses are telling us that they need
certainty, consistency and clarity as we go forward to deliver
our objectives. It is my firm belief that a clear policy
framework is essential to enable businesses to work with the
Government to deliver the step change we need. Growth in our
economy will depend on creating and developing partnerships
between the public and private sectors, the unions, our
communities, and local and regional governance bodies; these
relationships must underpin any strategy approach. They will need
to deliver major infrastructure schemes, provide the skilled
workforce as required and ensure the supply chains are in place
to enable development.
To deliver net zero, the UK will need to become a world leader in
producing electric cars, developing hydrogen, and developing and
creating further capacity in renewables, as well as delivering
our nuclear power potential—and we have had many discussions on
the need to invest in the national grid to achieve those
ambitions. Analysis shows that many of the clusters of high-value
green industries are outside of London and the south-east, which
offers opportunities to tackle stubborn interregional
inequalities. Developing clean power offers the potential to
create good, well-paid jobs across the country to overcome the
current piecemeal and fragmented approach that has blighted
progress, especially over recent months, with inconsistent
government policy announcements bringing despair and irritation
to many business leaders. Developing a joined-up, inclusive
industrial strategy is essential in tackling the perceived gap
between aspiration and delivery, frequently mentioned by the
Climate Change Committee and others.
The brilliant Library briefing gives us many examples of how
important this is. The last formal industrial strategy was set
out in 2017. The need for laying out a new one is obvious and
overdue, and I look forward to hearing the Minister’s views on
the current situation.
5.08pm
(CB)
My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Watson, on
obtaining this debate, and my new noble friend on his excellent maiden
speech.
I will talk about skills, which are central to the Government’s
aims of becoming a science and technology superpower and leading
the world in achieving net zero, and therefore central to
industrial strategy. Digital skills are needed across the board,
particularly as artificial intelligence grows ever more
pervasive. Green skills are essential in the pursuit of net zero;
creative skills are increasingly demanded by all sorts of
employers, and are key to our success in the creative and
cultural sectors; and the importance of technical skills is well
presented by the new Technicians gallery at the Science Museum.
The noble Lord, , pointed out in the Times last
week that the current lack of craft and trade skills, including
electricians, plumbers, bricklayers, plasterers and roofers,
makes the target of building 300,000 new homes a year “at present
... a fantasy”, in his words. We also lack leadership and
management skills.
Current skills policy seems far from being joined-up or
comprehensive. What can the Minister tell us about progress in
developing the nationwide local skills improvement plans required
by the Skills and Post-16 Education Act 2022? Where in government
does responsibility lie for ensuring that skills needs are fully
addressed nationally and locally? Where is the big picture for
skills strategy?
The recent report of the Lords Education for 11–16 Year Olds
Committee, on which my noble friend and I served, emphasises the
need for a better balance between academic and technical
education in schools. The curriculum’s current overacademic bias
fails to offer enough attractive technical or vocational pathways
for the 50% of young people who do not aspire to university,
especially the so-called forgotten third of pupils whose
educational progress is stymied by not achieving pass grades in
English and maths GCSEs. We should instead be opening their eyes
to the wealth of opportunities for them to acquire the technical
and practical skills that we so badly need.
Apprenticeships should also be central to any skills strategy,
but the numbers of young apprentices aged between 16 and 25 are
low and falling further. Employers almost universally complain
that the apprenticeship levy is not flexible enough and that a
significant proportion of levy funds is not being used to finance
skills development at all, but reverts to the Treasury.
Meanwhile, small employers are reluctant to take on apprentices
because of the cost and bureaucratic complexity involved.
A culture change is needed to recognise the central importance of
skills and to put in place appropriate policies across government
to deliver the skills we need. No industrial strategy will work
unless it includes development of the skills needed to deliver
it. I hope the Minister tells us how the Government plan to
address this key challenge for the achievement of their strategic
industrial goals.
5.11pm
(Con)
My Lords, I congratulate my former Downing Street colleague, the
noble Lord, , on an excellent maiden
speech. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Watson, for securing this
debate today.
Perhaps not for the first time, I am a bit out of sync with the
thrust of the debate in the Chamber so far. I am a little
sceptical of industrial strategy. The case for it is that
decision-making by Governments and officials produces a pattern
of economic activity of industries that would be better than that
which would otherwise develop in the market. Perhaps even less
plausibly, it is that the industries that we must support for
strategic reasons are also, by total coincidence, those that are
better for growth too, even though we still cannot rely on the
market to provide them. My simple question to all this is: says
who? How do you know? Where does the Government get the
information they need to shape the economy through tax, subsidy
and—apparently soon—tariffs in the form of CBAMs?
Proponents of industrial strategy say that they know better than
the market, but you cannot just say that; it has to be proved.
That is literally impossible. The only reliable source of
economic information in a market economy is prices, yet the
proponents of industrial strategy say that market prices are
wrong because the allocation of resources that the prices create
is inferior to the one that their industrial policy would create.
They cannot then use market prices of the future to justify the
claim that their new industrial structure is better than the
unknown alternative. You cannot have it both ways.
The second problem with industrial strategy is regulatory
capture. We all know about that: it is the tendency for economic
decision-making to be captured by Governments, who find it hard
to admit failure, or firms that benefit from incumbent
positions.
The final problem with industrial strategy is epistemological.
Nobody knows the future. No one knows that “the industries of the
future” actually are the industries of the future. Of course, if
you spend enough money on them, they become the industries of the
future—at least, if any competition can be squeezed out—but that
does not mean that they were the best use of our resources. It is
especially unlikely that they were if the outcomes are shaped by
Governments spending other people’s money, rather than firms and
entrepreneurs risking their own.
Of course, it is possible to make a case for industrial strategy
on different grounds, such as by saying that we need, for
example, a windmill industry for climate change reasons or a
steel industry for national security reasons, and that although
doing that is not the best use of resources and will harm growth,
we must do it anyway. It would still fall foul of the inability
to know the future, but at least we would be honest in
debate.
To conclude, I commend the Government for their at least partial
reluctance to go down the money-wasting road of industrial
strategy. My policy proposal to the Minister is to end all the
subsidies, use a bit of the money to buy for every Minister and
official a copy of Hayek’s essay The Use of Knowledge in Society,
and then sit back and let the market work.
5.15pm
(Lab)
My Lords, I welcome the noble Lord, , to the House, and I thank
my noble friend for introducing
this important debate and for his powerful speech in support of
the need for a comprehensive industrial strategy. To my mind, it
should really go without saying. What is more contentious, and
perhaps highlighted by the previous speech, is what goes into a
comprehensive strategy. I emphasise that the bedrock of an
industrial strategy for this country must be a green prosperity
fund, maybe costing £28 billion. The arguments for such a fund
are straightforward: it is for our children’s and grandchildren’s
future, stretching into the 22nd century. There must and will be
a transition to a decarbonised economy—that is coming—which
means, as a matter of urgency, Britain needs rebuilding for a
greener future, which means more investment, not less. We need to
do it now. We cannot afford to wait.
Having said what I want to see, I will highlight what I do not
want to see, and I turn to the financial services industry—I take
a broad view of what counts as an industry for these purposes.
The danger here is captured in the term “overfinancialisation”.
This is where the financial sector becomes too large or dominant
within an economy, at the expense of other sectors. London’s
status as a global financial hub means that the financial
services industry plays a significant role in the national
economy. This has brought wealth and employment, but overreliance
on finance can lead to several problems, such as economic
volatility exposing the economy to risk of financial crises;
resource misallocation, starving other industries and regions
outside London of innovation, investment, and growth in
productivity; and making income inequality worse, as the wealth
generated by financial services is not evenly distributed across
the population and the country. Ultimately, we end up with what
is called the resource curse. Also known as the paradox of
plenty, the resource curse refers to the paradox that countries
with an abundance of natural resources, such as oil or minerals,
tend to have less economic growth and worse development outcomes
than countries with fewer. Overdevelopment of financial services
leads to the same bad outcomes.
In ‘summary, we need to be concerned about the risks of
overreliance on a single sector, whether finance or natural
resources, and the importance of pursuing a balanced and
diversified economic strategy.
5.18pm
Earl Russell (LD)
My Lords, I also congratulate the noble Lord, , on his maiden speech and
the noble Lord, , on bringing
this debate.
Our economy is largely stagnant, and productivity remains poor.
This is harming living standards. The UK does not have a coherent
industrial strategy. Lots of changes have caused uncertainty. We
need a green industrial strategy to support the future green
economy. Markets need certainty in political outlook and an
industrial strategy to have confidence to invest, and we need
huge levels of private investment.
On green issues, Rishi’s change of course has been hugely
damaging to our place as a green world leader and to UK plc.
Industry is now wondering if we are still a safe partner for
large-scale green investments. Ministers tell me that this is the
greenest Government ever. I recognise the scale of the ambition
but, time and time again, their plans for implementation are not
happening at speed and to scale.
The anti-green rhetoric grows ever louder as we approach the
election—a convenient stick to beat the Labour Party with but not
necessarily good for the UK. Labour responds by putting up its
flagship £28 billion green pledge as a sacrificial lamb almost
daily. We need to stop playing politics with the environment. The
next industrial revolution, if there is to be one at all, must be
green.
The UK is near the bottom of the table in the G7 for investment
and the outlook is bleak. We are predicted to see a decline in
investment from 2.6% of GDP in 2023-24 to a predicted 1.8% in
2028-29.
The EU, America and China have all made huge green investments.
China developed more solar power last year than the rest of the
world did in the whole of 2022. Instead of investing £78 billion
in burning more fossil fuels, as we have been with the price cap
and other measures over the last two years, we could have
invested in renewables, creating long-term energy security and
jobs. We must also invest in energy efficiency. Our
interconnectors are out of date, we have a lack of storage and
our homes are not fit for purpose in terms of energy.
The transition to a green economy is an opportunity to enhance
productivity and create new growth, jobs and private investment.
Jürgen Maier, the former UK head of Siemens, said yesterday that
massive investment is needed to rebuild the UK economy and make
it fit for the future, and that it should concentrate on
low-carbon energy, transport, and industry. He said:
“These are the growth areas of the future”.
5.21pm
(Lab)
My Lords, Britain is in decline. To avert that decline, we need a
comprehensive and sustained strategy for encouraging investment
in our publicly owned social infrastructure and in our economic
infrastructure, which is predominantly in private and corporate
ownership.
We need to spend money to revive the social infrastructure and
the services that it sustains. This raises the question of where
the money should come from. The answer is that it must come from
taxes. This is a truth that becomes increasingly difficult for
political parties to acknowledge as an election approaches.
The revival of public infrastructure will not be enough to
restore our economic prosperity. Private industry must also meet
the challenge of investing in new technology and new factories.
There has been a dire lack of industrial investment over many
years.
The hope is entertained that this deficit can be overcome by dint
of foreign investment in the UK. A recent report by the noble
Lord, Lord Harrington, extolled the virtues of this recourse
while regretting that, in consequence of Brexit, there has been a
modest decline in the value of such capital inflows. The
assertion that such investment is unequivocally favourable to our
economy must be challenged. Direct foreign investment is
virtually synonymous with the sale of our assets to foreign
owners.
The large inward capital flows we have experienced over the years
have had the effect of easing our balance of payments deficits.
They have also been immensely profitable to the City of London,
which has mediated them. They have also had the effect of
sustaining the demand for sterling in the international markets,
and of elevating its value. This has been one of the prime causes
of our economic distress. Our goods have become too expensive to
compete in foreign markets and our industries have wilted in
consequence of a lack of demand for our exports.
Steps should be taken to reduce the value of the pound in the
currency markets. This can be achieved by purchasing foreign
currencies when the value of the pound exceeds certain levels.
The effect would be to make British goods more attractive abroad.
This would stimulate our industrial sector by increasing our
exports. The process of recovery will be protracted. It might
have the same duration as the processes of industrial decline
that we have experience since the 1960s.
5.24pm
(CB)
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Watson, for securing this
debate, and I congratulate the noble Lord, on his excellent maiden
speech. I will make two points: the first on the timescale and
continuity of government funding for any sort of industrial
strategy or growth plan, and the second on the acute national
shortage of engineering skills, limiting the success of such
plans.
First, in November the Government announced £4.5 billion of
funding for the manufacturing sector. Eight key sectors have been
identified: automotive, aerospace, and life sciences, and five
sectors in the all-important clean energy industry—carbon
capture, utilisation and storage; electricity networks; hydrogen;
nuclear and offshore wind. These are undoubtedly all key sectors
for our economy, and such funding is of course very welcome. To
harness the all-important underpinning science and technology
most effectively, the UK requires a robust and consistent
strategy for industry.
However, at the same time it was also announced that this funding
for manufacturing would be available from 2025 for only five
years. Without a commitment to a longer pipeline of funding, this
does not constitute an industrial strategy; it is surely no more
than a temporary fix. As has been pointed out in this debate,
Make UK, a body representing the manufacturing industries, has
emphasised that
“Every other major economy, from Germany, to China, to the US,
has a long-term national manufacturing plan”.
“Long-term” in this context means beyond five-year political
cycles; it means longer-term budgets and durable institutions. It
means a stable pipeline to enable the UK’s world-renowned
research and innovation system to deliver and provide confidence
for businesses to thrive.
Secondly, there is a huge importance of the need for engineering
skills. Here I declare an interest as an engineer, both in
practice and in academia, over the past 50 years. In its recent
report, Engineering Economy and Place, the Royal Academy of
Engineering finds that the total engineering economy contributes
up to an estimated £646 billion of direct GVA annually to the UK
economy—over 30% of total economic output.
Of the eight million people working in the engineering economy,
70% are engineers, yet there remains an acute shortage of
engineering skills, which must be addressed. A recent report led
by the Institution of Engineering and Technology
“estimated there is a shortfall of over 173,000 workers in the
STEM sector”.
It called on the Government to help to tackle the UK’s
engineering skills shortage by embedding engineering into the
current school curriculum. As mentioned by my noble friend , this is consistent with the
findings of the recent inquiry of this House’s Committee on
Education for 11 to 16 year-olds. There is a substantial untapped
resource of future engineers and engineering apprentices in our
schools. We need to address this urgently and plug the skills
gap.
In summary, any strategic support of manufacturing must resist
any quick-fix approach and instead focus on a long-term pipeline.
We need a planned industrial strategy and, to be effective, it
must address the acute shortage of engineering skills.5.27pm
The (Con)
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Watson, for raising this
debate and congratulate the noble Lord, , on his maiden speech.
I spent 20 years advising and winning business from over a third
of the companies in the FTSE 100, and I now try to help SMEs. I
refer the House to my entry in the register of interests. During
my time with the multinational corporates, I enjoyed many trips
to Derby to see Rolls-Royce, Farnborough to see BAE and Coventry
to see Jaguar Land Rover. I now travel to different parts of the
country to see SMEs, but whether it is Lichfield, Exeter or
Portsmouth, it is striking that wherever I go, the enthusiasm and
the commitment of the workforce is the rock that allows these
companies to thrive. All over this country, we have a truly
amazing industrial and manufacturing sector. We should be doing
everything that we can to help it.
I will therefore focus on SMEs and exports as part of a wider
industrial strategy. I will give noble Lords a crucially
important statistic. If you were to go to Companies House today,
you would find around 5.4 million firms registered. However, of
those, only 8.8% export at all. UK exports are now at the highest
level we have seen in our history, and it is clear that we have a
very experienced and successful team at UK Export Finance. None
of that is in doubt but, taking a purely objective view, 8.8%
appears to be at the low end of expectations. Will the Minister
say why he believes that number to be where it is and how he
believes we can help it to flourish and grow? Is it a case of
allocating more resource to UK Export Finance so it can visit
more companies? Do we need more material to deliver the message
that exporters are more productive, diversify their risk and
drive their own growth? Should the Government be working with the
big banks to laser focus on promoting the benefits of exporting
to those companies which are best placed to benefit from an
export strategy?
Another of the companies I did business with was ARM, the chip
maker and one of our great UK success stories. However, it is
listed in the US, not the UK. When our brilliant companies grow
and think about raising capital they should, one would think,
look to list in London. However, the FTSE Small Cap index is
seeing its constituents decline as well as its market
capitalisation, which materially impacts the investor funds
available to support our businesses which want to borrow money to
expand. What steps are the Government taking as part of an
industrial strategy to encourage investment in UK small caps and
make the sector great again?
5.30pm
(Lab)
I was pleased to endorse the Policy Exchange paper published last
week entitled Where now for UK Industrial Policy? by Geoffrey
Owen, the former editor of the Financial Times. I encourage
Ministers and shadow Ministers to study the paper and, above all,
to listen to Owen and his contacts, as they themselves will have
no direct experience of his lessons from the past, and from other
countries.
There are warnings such as,
“the picking winners … of the 1960s and 1970s”
and the “apparent success” of Biden’s programmes. Of course, we
should look at recent US and European experience, but we need to
look deeper to see whether they are relevant to the UK. Owen
gives an indication that the lurches in UK industrial policy can
be assessed by the 18 changes in titles and responsibilities of
the UK departments that have been the principal link between
Whitehall and industry since 1970.
Previous policies have failed. I shall give a brief outline of
Owen’s conclusions: do not imitate the EU; have government
investment in R&D; and
“the UK’s newest funder, the Advanced Research and Investment
Agency … ARIA is charged with supporting high-risk projects”
to have
“a transformative effect on the economy. But these will be
calculated risks with a clearly defined objective, and the
project will be terminated if not enough progress being
made”.
When this occurs, there is a need to ignore the inevitable
lobbying that will take place to create open-ended government
support. Projects should not be made difficult to abandon. Do not
enter a subsidy race with other nations. Do not use the term
“strategic investment” for any sector without explaining in clear
terms why one sector is more strategic than another. Furthermore,
it is crucial to channel government support,
“on a competitive basis, allowing scope for new entrants as well
as established producers”.
After his first stint at the Financial Times, Owen worked at the
Industrial Reorganisation Corporation and British Leyland for the
short period from 1969 to 1972. His report indicates some
successes, but the story overall is not good. Manufacturing is
not the same as in my early experience between 1957 and 1971—I am
the oldest, most out-of-date chartered engineer still paying his
subs in the House. It is vital, as my successor as MP for Perry
Barr, , says in his endorsement of
the paper that we have a,
“consistent and predictable policy environment”
It is also vital that the tent is big enough and that Ministers
and shadow Ministers are big enough to accept things invented by
others. In this respect, the legacy of is the Advanced Research
and Invention Agency, and this should be embraced and, I hope,
allowed to flourish.
5.33pm
(Lab)
My Lords, I thank my noble friend , not just for
securing this debate, but for a fantastic introduction. He is
absolutely right. As we have heard from across your Lordships’
House, the case for a new industrial strategy, one that works in
partnership with business, unions and government, is
overwhelming.
I too congratulate the noble Lord, , on his maiden speech. I
agree with him that there is huge opportunity across the UK, not
just in London and the south-east, to develop an industrial
strategy. I echo his warm words about , a mutual friend of many
of us on this side, and his family. I thank him for that. I hope
he enjoys his many years in your Lordships’ House.
We are a country full of talented people and businesses, with
ingenuity and ideas in every town and city, but we cannot meet
our vast challenges alone, as individuals or businesses. It
requires a national focus and effort that has been sorely lacking
over recent years. We have some key economic strengths across the
UK: our world-class universities, our thriving life sciences
sector—as the noble Lord, , who is not in his place,
talked about—advanced manufacturing clusters, creative
industries, and many more.
Yet, despite our enormous potential, the UK is set to have the
lowest growth in the G7, having suffered years of low investment
relative to our neighbours. Our productivity levels remain
stubbornly low and, as a result, workers have seen no growth in
real pay since 2010, leaving families exposed to the current cost
of living crisis. A country such as Britain should not be looking
at a future of low growth and poor productivity. The defining
mission of the next Labour Government will be to restore that
growth.
A co-ordinated, cross-sectoral approach, with policy consistency
so that businesses and individuals can make long-term decisions
and invest, is vital. The emphasis must lie on unpacking and
refining an industrial strategy within a comprehensive framework,
as the title of this debate sets out. This Government said that
they would achieve their plan through a focus on policies across
three core pillars of growth: infrastructure, skills and
innovation. These Benches agree, but it is time to transit from
words into action. If we have the opportunity to serve and govern
after the next election, we will foster community collaboration
to drive positive change across Britain’s industrial
landscape.
An industrial strategy can play a crucial role in supporting the
broader fabric of British society. Under the coalition
Government, continued some of the work that
new Labour had put in motion, but this was jettisoned after the
2015 general election. As my noble friend Lady Donaghy said, in
2017 Theresa May’s Government published an industrial strategy
and established the Industrial Strategy Council. However, since
2019 there has been little serious attempt at any industrial
strategy; the 2017 industrial strategy was set aside and the
council disbanded. The challenges and opportunities ahead make it
essential that Labour reverses this inconsistency and pursues a
serious and strategic approach. Our lack of progress as a nation
has encountered serious challenges, with the impact of Brexit in
particular serving as a major obstacle.
At the core of implementing Labour’s industrial plans is a
commitment to make Brexit work by re-establishing connection and
engagement with the EU to support UK industry. The last Labour
Government’s early intervention in renewable energy technologies
supported large-scale renewable electricity generation and led to
the expansion of wind-generated power. Labour’s cultivation of
the life sciences sector when we were last in government was
crucial to ensuring that it is now one of the leading industries.
Just two days ago, the Labour Front Bench launched a new plan for
the future of life sciences. This underscores the urgency of
re-evaluating our industrial strategy to foster sustainable
growth.
, Labour’s shadow
Secretary of State, when presenting Labour’s industrial strategy,
said that fostering collaboration with small businesses and
adopting a national government approach representing smaller and
larger businesses is critical. Such inclusive measures can
contribute to a more comprehensive and effective approach to
advancing the nation’s industrial landscape. Labour will provide
policy consistency by placing an industrial strategy council on a
statutory footing. This would help to end the farce of long-term
plans that do not survive the political cycle, as we have heard,
and which make it difficult for businesses to take strategic
decisions about their future direction. It would instead offer
the certainty needed to increase investment in British business,
people and places.
Labour has based its industrial strategy on four missions:
delivering clean power by 2030; harnessing data for public good;
caring for the future; and building a more resilient economy.
Collaborating with organisations such as the British Business
Bank can effectively support entrepreneurs and business owners.
Addressing disparities by strategically targeting areas in need
of industrialisation, such as empty high streets, can play a key
role. This includes investing in areas to transform them, with
thriving businesses and creative, vibrant communities. In
creating an industrial strategy for Britain, considering
environmental outcomes is paramount, as my noble friend Lord
Davies and a number of other noble Lords have said. We are
currently facing one of the worst G7 economic growth rates. The
Labour Party aims not only to revitalise the industry but to
prioritise climate change and environmental concerns.
The war in Ukraine has driven up energy prices, leaving the UK
set to have the highest inflation in the G7. As part of our
mission, we plan to boost offshore wind capacity by investing in
key ports on the Forth, Tay, Humber and in the north-east of
Scotland. This commitment to clean power not only aligns with
environmental goals but has the potential to create well-paid
nationwide jobs. As we have heard a few times this afternoon,
Labour’s commitment on the UK’s broader digital economy
underscores our focus on fostering collaboration and
inclusivity.
The lack of resilience in the economy can have widespread
consequences. The current cost of living crisis highlights the
importance of developing more resilient supply chains to mitigate
the impact of such challenges on industry and the lives of
individuals. Our nations need a Government who can provide
certainty and clarity. Achieving prosperity through partnership
is key to our economic revival. I look forward to the Minister’s
response.
5.44pm
(Con)
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords for their insight and
remarks in this important debate. I welcome their views,
especially from the engineers in this House, on how the
Government can best ensure clear direction as we drive towards
economic growth and progress. In recognising its importance, so
too should we recognise that different approaches are favoured by
different countries, depending on what works for each economic
context. Each has benefits, of course, but this Government favour
a more targeted approach to industrial policy, focused on a set
of clear priorities.
If I may, I will answer directly the noble Lords, Lord Watson,
, Lord Davies and Lord
McNicol, and the noble Baronesses, Lady Donaghy and Lady Blake.
Industrial strategy is a philosophy that is very much bandied
about; we are not in favour of such things. It is favoured by a
command-and-control approach to economics that is particularly
well loved by large countries such as the US, China, India and,
in the EU, Germany and France. Our approach—our plan for
growth—is that ideologically, as the noble Lord, Lord Watson,
said, as a small country we do not try to pick individual
winners, as many noble Lords have said. Instead, we invest behind
clusters of excellence. As a small country, we will never match
the pure dollar muscle of the US, China, India or the EU. But we
can be nimble, smart, proactive, entrepreneurial and open as a
country to doing business.
First, I thought I should consider where the UK sits in the
global economy. The latest official figures from the IMF show
that the UK is the sixth-largest economy in the world and fourth
in the G7, behind the US, Japan and Germany. Since 2010, the UK
has seen the third-highest rate of growth in the G7—faster than
Japan, Germany, France and Italy—and the IMF projects the UK to
have the third-fastest cumulative growth in the G7 over the
period 2024-28. Indeed, the ONS has revised up its earlier
assessments of GDP, showing that we surpassed pre-pandemic levels
of GDP by the end of 2021, while PWC’s economic outlook states on
growth that
“the UK will … outperform France, Japan and Germany with real GDP
around 2.7% higher in 2024 on average relative to 2019
levels.”
The UK was also the fifth-biggest exporter in the world in 2022
and achieved £870 billion of exports in the 12 months to November
2023. We are the second-largest exporter of financial services
globally and our service exports to the EU are now at a record
high, reaching £169 billion in the 12 months to September 2023,
with key sectors such as professional business services and
telecoms, computer and information services driving growth.
We also perform strongly on innovation. The recent WIPO Global
Innovation Index 2023 shows that the UK economy is more
innovative than our European neighbours such as Germany, France
and the Netherlands, and technology powerhouses such as Israel,
Japan and South Korea. Indeed, we have the second highest number
of Nobel prize-winners in the world, above Germany, France,
Sweden and Japan.
From a labour market perspective, according to the new ONS
experimental series, the number of people in employment is now at
33 million. With an unemployment rate of 4.2% in the three months
to August 2022, our unemployment rate hit its lowest point in
nearly 50 years. While we are by no means complacent, we are
pleased that the latest estimate from the ONS shows that the UK’s
inactivity rate has fallen since its record high in September
2022.
Brexit is also offering great opportunities to the UK. Because of
Brexit, the UK now has more trade agreements in effect than any
other sovereign independent country in the world. We have secured
trade agreements with 73 countries, plus our comprehensive deal
with the EU. We have also been able to negotiate brand new trade
deals with Australia and New Zealand, creating opportunities for
British businesses to break into new markets by eliminating
tariffs on 100% of UK exports and securing unprecedented access
for the UK’s world-class services industry. We have also signed
the accession protocol to join the Comprehensive and Progressive
Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership. This brings new
opportunities for UK businesses, with 99% of current UK goods
exports eligible for zero tariffs in dynamic economies across the
Asia-Pacific, as well as the reduction of other barriers to trade
across four continents.
We will leverage our strong global economic position to drive
forward growth. Our approach is not to pick individual winners;
instead, we invest behind clusters of excellence. The Government
are therefore continuing to deliver an ambitious plan for growth
and prosperity, as set out in the Autumn Statement. At that time,
the Chancellor outlined the Government’s plan to unlock growth
and productivity, laying out 110 growth measures, including
removing red tape, speeding up access to the national grid,
supporting entrepreneurs raising capital, unlocking foreign
direct investment, and cutting business taxes.
The noble Lord, Lord Davies, talked about reliance on the single
market. It is clear that delivering growth across the whole of
the UK is a top government priority, and the Government have
identified five key growth sectors for the UK. The first is
advanced manufacturing, with an aim to make the UK the best place
in the world to start, scale up and invest in manufacturing, as
outlined in the Advanced Manufacturing Plan. The second sector is
green industries, in line with our commitment to achieve net zero
by 2050. Thirdly, as outlined in our Life Sciences Vision, are
the life sciences, which were mentioned by the noble Lord, . The fourth and fifth are the
creative industries, in line with the creative industries sector
vision, and digital technology, as outlined in the Government’s
digital strategy. I am most grateful to the noble Lord, , for his suggestion of removing
all subsidies, but the Government are keen to support those five
key growth sectors.
First, on advanced manufacturing, we published our Advanced
Manufacturing Plan and the UK’s first ever battery strategy in
the autumn. This includes a £4.5 billion package of funding to
2030, tax reliefs, and business environment measures aimed at
making the UK the best place to start, scale up and invest in
manufacturing. As part of this, the Government are working to
drive growth in the UK’s automotive industry with a £2 billion
support package, giving long-term certainty to industry to
continue to invest in UK manufacture of zero-emission vehicles,
batteries and supply chains. The Government have also committed
an additional £975 million to the aerospace industry through the
Aerospace Technology Institute programme to help secure the UK’s
role as a hub for the next generation of ultra-efficient aircraft
and wings.
We are also helping small and medium manufacturers to adopt
digital technologies by extending the reach of the Made Smarter
programme. Our approach here is already working, with recent
successes including: Tata Group’s announcement of a new
gigafactory that will produce 40 gigawatt hours of batteries per
year; Nissan’s £2 billion investment in Sunderland to produce two
new electric models; and Boeing’s £80 million investment in South
Yorkshire’s advanced manufacturing investment zone.
Secondly, on green industries, the Chancellor and Energy Security
Secretary have already announced £960 million for a green
industries growth accelerator, which will drive forward advanced
manufacturing capacity in key net-zero sectors—including offshore
wind networks; carbon capture, usage and storage; hydrogen; and
nuclear —to support the expansion of resilient, homegrown, clean
energy supply chains across the UK.
This builds on our existing plans to speed up grid connections
and make reforms to the planning system, making sure that the UK
has the right conditions for further investment and growth. As a
result of the UK’s global leadership in clean technologies,
including the flagship contracts for difference scheme and the
£20 billion recently committed to develop carbon capture, usage
and storage, the UK has attracted £200 billion since 2010. A
further £100 billion is expected by 2030, which will support up
to 480,000 skilled jobs across the country.
On life sciences, our 10-year strategy, developed jointly with
the NHS and industry, focuses on creating a business environment
in which the UK can maintain a global advantage in areas such as
genomics and health data. I am grateful to the noble Lord, , for raising these important
points and for everything he does in this sector. It will help
build resilience for future health emergencies and capitalise on
the UK’s R&D strengths. The Chancellor announced a £520
million life sciences support package at the Autumn Statement.
This builds on our existing £650 million war chest announced in
May last year, designed to fire up the UK’s life sciences
sector.
Moving on to the creative industries, it is evident that we are
world leaders. Indeed, the sector grew at over one and a half
times the rate of the wider economy between 2010 and 2019. But we
want to go further. In June 2023, we published a sector vision
that set ambitions to grow the creative industries sector by £50
billion and deliver a creative careers promise to support a
million more jobs by 2030. This included £77 million in new
government spending, bringing the total announced since the 2021
spending review to £310 million.
Finally, on digital, the UK continues to lead the European tech
ecosystem, with over 150 unicorns—tech companies valued at over
$1 billion. That is more than France, Germany and the Netherlands
combined. The overall value of the UK tech sector reached $1.1
trillion in 2023, up from $640 billion in 2012, making us the
third country in the world to pass the $1 trillion milestone,
after the US and China. We are also playing a world-leading role
in developing technologies of the future, such as artificial
intelligence and quantum computing, ensuring that the UK is at
the forefront of shaping how technology transforms lives for the
better.
Our approach is working. At November’s Global Investment Summit,
the Government announced nearly £30 billion in private investment
commitments, backing some of the fastest growing and most
innovative sectors in the UK, including projects in tech, the
life sciences, infrastructure, housing and renewable energy. Our
visions for the key sectors identified by the Chancellor are
further supported by our export strategy, which aims to support
business to access export opportunities, and our clear investor
road maps for hydrogen, carbon capture and storage, and
automotive industries, which help business to support government
priorities.
The Department for Business and Trade continues to deliver a wide
range of business support schemes, with over 40 offers that help
businesses start, grow and export. This includes the work of UK
Export Finance, which champions SMEs by unlocking finance for
viable exporters, helping to make global markets accessible. In
the 2022-23 financial year alone, UK Export Finance delivered
£6.5 billion in new direct support through loans, guarantees and
insurance policies, supporting 55,000 UK jobs. This included
direct product support to 251 companies, of which 84% are SMEs
and 82% are based outside London. As we move forward, we will
continually improve our offer to help businesses across the UK
access the finance and support they need, improve their skills
and remove barriers to export.
I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Harrington for his report
on increasing foreign direct investment, which has been warmly
received by the Government. We have already taken significant
steps to improve our ability to attract the most strategically
important investments to the UK over the last couple of years,
including establishing the Office for Investment and ensuring
that we focus on securing the highest-value and highest-impact
investments. I reaffirm our commitment to the noble Lord that the
Government continue to drive forward implementation of the
recommendations in line with our response, and that the
Department for Business and Trade and His Majesty’s Treasury are
working jointly to deliver a clear cross-government approach to
securing and retaining investments.
I will respond to some specific questions. On the support for
Tata Steel employees, I say to the noble Lord, Lord Watson, that
we are determined to secure a sustainable and competitive future
for the UK steel sector. On 15 September 2023, we announced that
Tata Steel is investing £1.25 billion, including a UK Government
grant worth up to £500 million, in a new electric arc furnace.
This will not only modernise production but ensure that
steel-making in south Wales can continue for generations to come.
Without this major investment, Port Talbot would be under serious
threat and Tata Steel’s operation in the UK, which employs 8,000
people, would be at risk. This support is expected to save at
least 5,000 jobs within the company.
My noble friend and the noble Lord, Lord
Watson, asked about the industrial strategy shutdown. The
Government decided that we would no longer monitor the impact of
the former industrial strategy, following its transition to the
plan for growth. We continue to engage closely with businesses
across all sectors, representative organisations, trade
associations and investors through dedicated forums such as the
Prime Minister’s Business Council.
I have answered the question from the noble Lord, . Since the vision was first
published, we have seen strong growth in the life sciences
sector, which saw £24 billion in exports in 2022. As a result of
this, the sector supports more than 300,000 jobs across the UK.
We will continue supporting this important and innovative sector
with a sector-specific approach.
The noble Lord, , asked about the skills
improvement plan. Skills are very important across all sectors.
The Government support manufacturing through a high-quality
skills offer, including our flagship apprenticeship programme,
skills bootcamps and higher technical qualifications through
institutes of technology delivering manufacturing skills in areas
such as clean energy, renewable energy, industry and
transport.
To answer the noble Lord, , our teams in the
Department for Business and Trade work across government, with
business and investors in all sectors to drive growth. Indeed, in
the Autumn Statement, we focused on building a stronger and more
resilient economy. The Chancellor set out a plan to unlock growth
and productivity by working with business, investing £20 billion
a year getting more people into work, increasing the working
population of 29 million. To answer the noble Lord, , the Government support
manufacturing and engineering through a high-quality skills
offer, flagship apprenticeship programmes, skills bootcamps and
technical qualifications through institutes of technology.
I conclude by grounding this debate in a higher purpose. The
Government must always be focused on how to build prosperity for
our country, our people and our communities. It is right, in the
context of heightened global competition, that the UK must be
smarter and more strategic by maintaining a highly attractive
business environment, prioritising areas of strength and focusing
efforts on the biggest growth opportunities. Through this
approach, we can be more agile in response to change, and more
effective at delivering economic growth and enabling everyone to
participate in economic growth and prosperity. Under our vision
for key growth sectors, the Government will continue to ensure we
capitalise on our strong partnership with business and make the
most of UK’s underlying economic advantages to keep the economy
growing.
These clusters of excellence have the great benefit of being
accessible in every part of the country, whether it be working to
deliver space ports in Scotland; pioneering the development and
commercialisation of semiconductors in Wales; supporting Northern
Ireland’s dynamic and rapidly evolving aerospace ecosystem;
building on Coventry and Warwickshire’s unique automotive supply
chain to develop new enabling technologies for automotive
transportation; continuing to capitalise on our thriving
financial services capabilities in London; or building our
offshore supply chains and gigafactory capabilities in the
north-east. It is through our targeted approach towards our five
key growth sectors that we can be more effective in delivering
the direction for growth and prosperity in the UK. We continue to
take the long-term decisions to deliver a transformational step
change and strengthen the UK economy as a whole. It is this
co-ordinated and targeted approach that will continue to boost
investment and deliver for the country: that is what is called
levelling up.6.03pm
(Lab)
My Lords, I thank all contributors to today’s debate. I thought
it was both interesting and thoughtful and set the terms of
future discussions that we will be having in the years ahead in
this House. In particular, I thank the noble Lord, , for his considered
contribution and welcome him to the House. Like him, I felt very
nostalgic when he described working at No. 10. I have very fond
memories of working there myself, and I know that his experience
in the Treasury and in No. 10 will ensure that his contributions
to this House really make a difference.
The nostalgia did not stop there. Is it really over 30 years
since I shared a flat with my noble friend Lord McNicol and was
so infuriated when I was reading the seminal work of the noble
Lord, , Modern Conservatism, page by
page? I am grateful and relieved, of course, that both of their
thinking has moved on in the last 30 years, on the basis of their
contributions today.
But the nostalgia does not stop even there. It is 40 years since
I was appointed as the photocopy kid in the library at Labour
Party headquarters, where the general secretary, my noble friend
, as he is now, used to tell me
about how he worked for the Ministry of Technology under Harold
Wilson—we all know that Harold knew how to back a winner and was
very good at industrial strategies.
Then it reminded me that I am just getting on a bit. Indeed, my
noble friend reminded me in his contribution
that he was the first MP I ever met, at the age of seven years
old, which gives me the right to say to him that, this month, I
believe, we will see his 50 years of unbroken service to the
Houses of Parliament, both in the Commons and the Lords. It has
been a genuine pleasure to see his contributions in both Houses
during those years, and I am delighted and honoured that I can
say that while wrapping up this debate.
An industrial strategy sets a longer-term higher order of
direction for a country to take, perhaps even more than markets
can predict, with goals like technological leadership or
sustainable development. I was particularly entertained, amused
and impressed by the contribution of the noble Lord, . I will just remind him by way
of conclusion that the company of his fellow Hayekian anarchist,
Elon Musk, the boss of Tesla, had a market capitalisation of $588
billion the last time I checked. He must be very grateful for the
$465 million he got as a loan guarantee from the American
Government because they had an industrial strategy. Would it not
be great if we could have the same in this country?
(Con)
My Lords, please forgive me: I forgot to mention the excellent
speech of the noble Lord, . Coming from Manchester,
he is most welcome to the House, and I look forward to working
with him and finding out if he is a blue or a red.
Motion agreed.
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