Moved by Baroness Jenkin of Kennington That this House takes note
of the importance of safeguarding children in schools. Baroness
Jenkin of Kennington (Con) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords
participating today and those—five or six, I think—who have had to
scratch from the debate due to travel issues. I am especially sorry
that the noble Baroness, Lady Meyer, was taken ill overnight and is
unfortunately unable to be with us. The importance of...Request free trial
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That this House takes note of the importance of safeguarding
children in schools.
(Con)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords participating today and
those—five or six, I think—who have had to scratch from the
debate due to travel issues. I am especially sorry that the noble
Baroness, Lady Meyer, was taken ill overnight and is
unfortunately unable to be with us.
The importance of safeguarding children is well established and
considered vital in underpinning the operation of a safe and
functioning society in the UK, so there should not really be any
need for us to have a debate about its importance at all in 2023.
As a country, we should be able to protect all children from harm
both outside of school and, especially, within it. We have in
place the protocols, mechanisms and routines. Schools should be
able to facilitate children to explore ideas about themselves and
the world in ways which do not harm them, but children today find
themselves facing a tidal wave of troubles and challenges: poor
mental health, body image issues, violent pornography and online
bullying for starters. Our children are unhappier than ever. What
has gone wrong?
The Government’s definition of safeguarding encompasses a
holistic range of measures that must be met to ensure children
are safe, healthy and able to flourish. Working Together to
Safeguard Children defines safeguarding as
“protecting children from maltreatment … preventing impairment of
children’s mental and physical health or development … ensuring
that children grow up in circumstances consistent with the
provision of safe and effective care”,
and
“taking action to enable all children to have the best
outcomes”.
Outside of the home environment, there is nothing more formative
for a child than their experience at school. Consequently,
parents place profound trust in schools not just to provide their
child with an education but to protect their mental and physical
safety too. In turn, teachers and schools take on great
responsibility—one that goes well beyond the planning,
preparation and delivery of lessons, the marking of work and a
focus on academic development. All of those working with children
in schools fundamentally shape the environment in which they grow
up and are responsible to ensure this environment is, at a
minimum, not harming them.
This speech starts from the belief that teachers, parents, and
carers are united in wanting the best for children, but the world
has changed beyond recognition since the legislative framework
for safeguarding was introduced. As well-established as
safeguarding protocol is in this country, it must be able to
adapt in the light of new safeguarding risks facing children
today.
Safeguarding is the responsibility of everyone who comes into
contact with a child and their family. It is thanks to my noble
friend Lady Bottomley of Nettlestone—I am delighted to see her in
her place—who, as Secretary of State, introduced the Children Act
in 1989, 34 years ago, during which time the world has changed
beyond recognition, that we have the legislative framework for
the requirements and expectations of child safeguarding in
England, reinforced by subsequent legislation in 2004. Section 11
of the Children Act 2004 states that any organisation or function
providing services to children is legally required to promote
their welfare and to safeguard them. The Government bolstered
this legislation with several statutory documents that set out
safeguarding duties on schools. The Office for Standards in
Education, Children’s Services and Skills—Ofsted—highlighted in
its 2017-2022 strategy:
“Even more important than ensuring young people are learning well
is ensuring that they are safe”.
Ofsted expects every school to have a “culture of safeguarding”
and a school should be deemed automatically inadequate if these
measures are found to be ineffective. Even though this occurs in
a tiny minority of schools, Ofsted considers safeguarding to be
an utmost priority.
What does this mean in practice? It means several things. Schools
are required to work closely and co-operatively with appropriate
local authority partners in a local community to ensure no child
is able to slip through the net. They are required to adopt an
“it could happen here” mentality, which works from the
fundamental premise that every adult has the potential to harm a
child. Safeguarding does not accept that simply because someone
appears harmless, they can be considered to be so. Information
sharing is foundational to this; schools are not in the business
of keeping secrets. A teacher should never promise
confidentiality to a child, and the Government provide six
information sharing principles for child practitioners, including
accuracy, security and timeliness.
Another vital safeguarding measure is the importance of parental
responsibility. The law is clear that no other body is to assume
parental responsibility for a child unless the court intervenes.
Although there are exceptions, parents are accepted to be the
most emotionally, socially and financially invested in the
welfare of their children. Those who have parental responsibility
for a child should be empowered to make decisions about that
child.
We clearly have the infrastructure designed to make sure we keep
children safe, so why are Britain’s children unhappier than ever?
According to the NHS, in 2017, one in nine children aged between
seven and 16 had a probable mental health disorder. By 2020, that
number was one in six. In 2022, one in four young people aged 17
to 19 reported mental health issues. One in eight children report
being bullied online through social media platforms. Our mental
health services for children and young people are in a dire
state, with children and young people’s mental health services
buckling under the burden of demand. Do the Government have any
plans to develop and implement a strategy to tackle mental health
in schools?
Ofsted reports that peer-on-peer sexual abuse in schools is on
the rise. Sexual harassment is prevalent in schools, and is more
prevalent by boys to girls. This is unsurprising, given the
normalisation of sexual violence in online pornography and the
role it is playing in shaping a child’s understanding of sex and
relationships. As the Children’s Commissioner reported in
January, the average age at which children are first seeing
pornography is 13. Some 10% of children surveyed first saw porn
age nine. As I am sure we will hear later in the debate, the
impact of pornography on destroying young minds cannot be
overstated. Anyone who doubts this should look on YouTube at a
film called “Raised on Porn”, which explains the effect on a
child’s brain of watching pornography at an age when they are
unable to compute what they are seeing. Age verification, brought
in with the Online Safety Act, should go some way to resolving
this, but the normalisation of porn consumption among young
people is nothing short of a safeguarding catastrophe—although I
am not, of course, blaming schools for this.
Social media and smartphones have become an integral part of the
lives of children and teenagers. This is 24/7: no longer are
children likely to be kicking a football around the school field
or chatting in the canteen at lunch. Instead, they are
disassociated from the real world around them, plugged into an
online world with limitless boundaries and unfettered access to
potentially dangerous actors across the world. As psychology
professor and expert Jonathan Haidt put it, “Childhood has been
rewired”. His research suggests that social media is making
children more fragile, angrier and more likely to take offence.
This is having a particularly damaging effect on girls, yet some
schools still allow children to walk around the school corridors
glued to their smartphones.
If the damage is so clear, why are we not seeing this as a
safeguarding issue? I welcome the Secretary of State for
Education’s pledge to issue guidance cracking down on smartphone
use in schools. Can my noble friend the Minister say when this
guidance is likely to be published?
As well as the proliferation of poor mental health, porn and
social media, many schools are adopting an ideological approach
towards sex and gender, and issues around identity. This is
leading to a violation of trust between parents and teachers.
According to a report by Policy Exchange, 69% of schools are not
reliably informing parents when a child experiences gender
distress at school and 25% of children are being taught that they
can be born in the wrong body. As Dr Hilary Cass has said in her
interim report into services for gender-distressed children and
young people,
“social transition … is not a neutral act”.
Some schools are breaking the safeguarding rules by legitimising
withholding vital information from parents, promising
confidentiality to children and compromising single- sex
spaces—most vital for both sexes in navigating the trials and
tribulations of puberty.
Ultimately, schools risk usurping the roles of parents when it
comes to navigating highly sensitive cultural issues such as sex,
race and gender. Schools have an obligation to remain politically
impartial when teaching these issues, but we know they are not
always doing this. Statutory guidance exists but many believe it
needs to be stronger. Can my noble friend confirm whether this
guidance is under review and likely to be updated?
I am sure we all understand the pressures on teachers, who have
an enormous responsibility in discharging safeguarding duties as
well as providing an academic education. The way that closing
schools during the pandemic has devalued the education system in
the collective consciousness of the public has resulted in a
sense that school is an optional extra, with huge numbers of
society’s most vulnerable severely absent from it and parents
willing to take children out of school for reasons such as
politics and holidays. Will my noble friend consider enabling
schools and academy trusts to issue fixed penalty notices for
poor attendance?
Again, I do not underestimate the pressure that teachers are
under, so is my noble friend aware that teachers are being called
up for jury service with no concern about the impact on both them
and the children they teach? Would she consider raising with
colleagues in government whether teachers could be exempt from
jury service during termtime, or guidance created for the courts
to ensure teachers are not taken out of schools at critical
times, leaving children untaught for lengthy periods?
Like many noble Lords, I hear from parents and teachers asking,
“How can we let children be children?” For my generation—I think
I am still just below the average age in your Lordships’
House—that is what we were. We read Ladybird books; we learned to
read from Janet and John; our crazes, or our social contagions if
you like, were potty putty, gonks and hopscotch. The most edgy
thing we did in the break at school was to play kiss chase. That
was about as extreme as it got. Thankfully, for my children’s
generation there was no social media. I am not suggesting for a
moment that people of our generation, and my children’s, did not
experience bullying, violence and abuse, but thankfully they
escaped the online world that children, their teachers and their
parents have to navigate today. Quirky children are like quirky
adults; they should not be bullied or picked on for being
different. Whether it is for red hair, sexual orientation or
being gender non-conforming, they should be supported to be
themselves as they develop from childhood to adulthood.
I know that my noble friend the Minister will share all our
concerns about the well-being of our children in schools. We
cannot afford to drop the ball on safeguarding, even if that
means admitting that mistakes have been made. Society is
constantly evolving, and issues which previously did not exist,
or may have been thought harmless or negligible, should now be
re-evaluated in the light of safeguarding duties. Children
deserve to be children and to grow and mature in school, knowing
that they are safe from harm. They are already paying the price
and it must stop.12.04pm
(Lab)
My Lords, I very much welcome this debate and congratulate the
noble Baroness, Lady Jenkin, on securing it and introducing it so
effectively. She started by talking about the importance of
safeguarding children. Whatever else we disagree on today in this
Chamber, I think we would all accept that that is vital and that
we have an obligation to ensure that it is as effective as
possible. I agree with the thrust of her arguments completely. I
take the view she does on many of the issues facing society and
schools now. In the time I have, I want to take up just one or
two points.
It is important to remember that, although awful things still
happen, safeguarding in schools is far better than it was when I
started teaching. We know now what risks children have and the
truth is that, for many children, schools are the safest places
in their lives. Huge progress has been made and we ought to
acknowledge that, because it is an extra burden on teachers.
Theirs is a skilled job; you have to learn to do it. I was
teaching during that period of having to learn to do it, and it
is not easy because it is about changing your culture. By the
time you get to an adult, it is quite difficult to change that.
One of the ways in which that culture has been changed over the
last 20 to 30 years is in having a partnership between government
and schools, where society has decided what it wants to accept
and Governments have passed legislation and issued guidance so
that schools have a framework in which they can make decisions.
Without being complacent about what still needs to be done, that
is why it has improved.
I want to take up the issues where, as the noble Baroness, Lady
Jenkin, said, we have not got it right. We should not dismiss
them, so I will comment on one briefly. What happens with online
risks is terrible. I do not know how schools deal with them,
given the tightly knit communities that they are, but at least
now we have agreement in adult society that we must do as much as
we can to change that and offer protection for children. We have
the beginnings of a legislative framework whereby that can
happen.
I want to move on to the issue of sex and gender and self-ID for
children in schools. Why do we have no adult agreement for what
we want for our children on that? We do not have the legislative
framework or the guidance which gives that secure framework
against which teachers can make their decisions. The good we have
achieved has been through guidance, legislation and adults
agreeing what is best for children, which is not happening on
whether children and people should be able to self-identify their
sex and whether schools should support them.
While we are dithering about issuing guidance and wondering what
we should do on this difficult issue, teachers are picking up the
pieces every day in their schools. It is not just the odd school
or one school in 10: these difficult conversations are taking
place in every school. Children are growing up asking themselves
these questions and teachers are trying to discharge their
responsibility to help them without a framework to guide them.
They are dealing with issues such as whether schools should have
single-sex spaces in changing rooms, when a male pupil identifies
as a girl and wants to access a safe space. They have to decide
on sports issues, where weight and stature matter, so we have
single-sex sports. They have to decide whether children can
change their pronouns and whether they should advise a child to
refer to a gender identity clinic. They even have to make
decisions as to whether they should keep that a secret or talk to
a parent.
I completely understand that this is not an easy issue for
adults, but we should not leave it so that we create such
uncertainty for teachers. Many teachers have their own views and
are conflicted in what they should say to the children in their
charge. Even where the national curriculum says something that I
think is straightforward, such as that there are two sexes and
children should be taught that in biology, some teachers now do
not know if they should be doing that because of the lack of
guidance and the advice they are getting. Teachers are dealing
with pressure groups, which have opposite ideas to each other,
and are essentially taking the legal risk. They are the ones at
risk of being accused by parents of teaching things that they do
not want their children to learn because, within adult society
and government, the framework has not been presented to them.
For young people, growing up is a difficult time when your body
is changing. We have been all through it—our children and
grandchildren are going through it—and it is not easy. Many young
people have a very difficult relationship with their body, but
they should not be encouraged to think that changing their sex is
an answer to those dilemmas.
Yet in the last 10 years we have seen the number of girls who
have been referred to a gender identity clinic going up from 32
to 1,740, while the number of boys has risen from 40 to 626. I do
not know why that is happening, although I have read the theories
and I can hazard a guess, but I know that those children are in
someone’s school and have teachers in charge of their pastoral
and academic well-being, yet we are not giving them the guidance
to make effective decisions.
My own view is that sometimes you think, “Well, let’s go for a
halfway house and permit social transitioning but not”—as I think
we will not do now, following the Cass report—“refer children for
puberty blockers”. But, once you start children on that journey,
you may cause them psychological damage. We also know that the
children who are referred to gender identity clinics are
statistically far more likely to have mental health issues or be
on the moderate to severe autism spectrum. Also, children change
their minds. Thank goodness they do—it is part of growing up—so
we should not make them commit and then enforce that commitment
so that it is difficult to change their minds later on.
It is not just the children asking these questions, wondering
whether they have been born into the wrong body, who are
suffering because of our lack of providing a legal framework; it
is every child in the school. If safe spaces and sports are
changed, every child is affected by that.
The last thing I want to say, as strongly as I can, is that
guidance is needed, and I hope the Minister can say it is being
issued today. As strongly as I feel about children not being
encouraged to change sex, I feel equally strongly than children
must be listened to, whatever they say and whatever view they
express. They must be taken seriously and supported. They must
not be bullied, no matter how they present themselves, and links
with parents must be maintained wherever possible. I genuinely
hope that guidance is issued soon, and that very quickly adults
can give guidance to teachers on how they deal with the next
generation.
12.12pm
(LD) [V]
My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Jenkin, on
securing this important debate, and I thank her for her
comprehensive introduction. It is a pleasure to follow the noble
Baroness, Lady Morris of Yardley. In her time as Secretary of
State she put children at the heart of education, and she is
right that safeguarding today is much better than it was in the
past.
Safeguarding has a set of specific meanings regarding the
protection of children and vulnerable adults from abuse, neglect
and harm, defined, as the noble Baroness, Lady Jenkin, mentioned,
in the Children Act 1989, including protecting children from
maltreatment; preventing the impairment of children’s physical
and mental health or development; ensuring that children grow up
in circumstances consistent with the provision of safe and
effective care; and taking action to enable all children to have
the best outcomes.
Ofsted describes good safeguarding practice as
“the culture a school creates to keep its pupils safe so that
they can benefit fully from all that schooling offers. A positive
and open safeguarding culture puts pupils’ interests first.
Everyone who works with children is vigilant in identifying risks
and reporting concerns. It is also about working openly and
transparently with parents, local authorities and other
stakeholders to protect pupils from serious harm, both online and
offline, and about taking prompt and proportionate action”.
The Times Education Supplement’s guidance sets out the seven core
issues that school governors and staff need to keep at the
forefront of their minds when considering safeguarding. They are:
child sexual abuse and CSA material online; child-on-child sexual
violence and harassment, which sadly is growing worse; extremism
and radicalisation; domestic abuse; adverse childhood
experiences; trauma; and, last but not least, mental health.
Some 30 years ago, I held the portfolio for education and
libraries on Cambridgeshire County Council. That summer, my new
safeguarding responsibilities were brought home to me in a
shocking case at one of the county’s primary schools. A caretaker
had been grooming and abusing girls in years 5 and 6 but, when
parents complained to the head, the response was, “No, no, our
lovely caretaker could never do this”. But he had. As word went
round the community, more and more former pupils and their
parents came forward. The caretaker pleaded guilty, but many more
children were abused because of preconceptions by those who
should have protected them and investigated the first complaint.
I tell this story because too often our own prejudices can miss
something key that merits, at the very least, investigation and
listening to the child. That is why over the years I have
welcomed the strengthening of safeguarding.
School must be a place of safety for children. Sometimes that can
mean safe from their parents too. One of the hardest things to do
is to hear about or suspect child abuse or child sexual abuse
from within the child’s home. Parents are not automatically
involved in safeguarding reports regarding their children, as it
is recognised that families are not automatically a safe
environment for children, with some one in 14 children
experiencing sexual abuse at the hands of their parents or
guardians.
That is why we need mandatory reporting for abuse. Children
cannot stop abuse; adults can. The 13th recommendation of the
Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse was for mandatory
reporting, which would bring us nearer to the vast majority of
other nations. A recent survey of 62 nations found that 80% of
those participating had some form of mandatory reporting. Sadly,
the Government’s response to the IICSA recommendations set out a
very weak form of mandatory reporting. With no statutory offence
for failing to report, it is not clear who will have the power to
investigate or even to talk to the Disclosure and Barring
Service.
These and other proposals are too weak to have any effect on
reporting rates, so I ask the Minister why the Government are not
following the examples particularly of Australia, Canada and
others where adults in schools report that they are now more
confident in raising suspicions to ensure investigation because
of mandatory reporting frameworks. Mandatory reporting helps
professional adults responsible for children by giving them a
clear framework for taking action. By the way, this is not just a
schools issue; it should cover regulated activities such as
sports. We are seeing far too many scandals outside schools.
I turn to the safety of children who are LGBTQ+ and the proposals
by some, as mentioned by the noble Baroness, Lady Jenkin, to add
a statutory notification to parents of any issues relating to
their child. Experts say that creating an environment where a
child is expected to suppress part of their identity is
increasingly regarded by medical practitioners as harmful.
Allowing exploration in safe environments away from predetermined
outcomes—also known as “affirmative therapy”—is almost always
beneficial. And by the way, if the child wishes to walk back from
their initial feelings, they can do so without any harm. To ban
it might cause further problems.
The Government’s own safeguarding guidelines, Keeping Children
Safe in Education, say:
“The fact that a child or a young person may be LGBT is not in
itself an inherent risk factor for harm”
and that LGBT children have protection from bullying and
harassment under the Equality Act. It also says:
“Risks can be compounded where children who are LGBT lack a
trusted adult with whom they can be open”.
If children and young people think they will automatically be
outed to their parents, they may be less likely to confide in a
trusted member of school staff, especially if they fear their
parents having a hostile reaction. The NSPCC guidance on
safeguarding LGBT children and young people states:
“You should discuss options with the young person and their
parents or carers (as long as this does not put the young person
at risk of harm)”.
In conclusion, the Government have taken some good steps forward
on strengthening safeguarding and guidance, but we must find a
way to truly protect our children and young people through strong
regulatory practice and ensuring that we continue to put children
at the heart of safeguarding.
12.19pm
(Con)
My Lords, I also warmly congratulate my noble friend Lady Jenkin
on initiating this important debate. It is a pleasure to speak
after two other such distinguished Peers, the noble Baronesses,
Lady Morris—whom I have greatly admired for a long time—and Lady
Brinton, who made incredibly important points.
I was not going to raise transgender issues, gender dysphoria and
all the rest today, because I always know who I disagree with and
there are very few people I agree with—but I entirely agree with
the noble Baroness, Lady Morris. So, if asked for my views, I
shall simply send people her speech.
Children need a stable, loving environment with consistent adults
and long-term care. They need control as well as care and, of
course, this should primarily come from the family. But for so
many it does not, so the school has a pivotal and changing role.
As has rightly been said, the expectations on teachers and head
teachers have grown monumentally. Forty years ago, I used to work
with , who later ran Young Minds.
We provided training sessions—I was working at the Maudsley—for
teachers in inner city schools coping with children in
devastating situations, with behaviour they could not understand
and parental interventions that seemed to be absent. These
teachers thought their job was to teach and were trying to get
their heads round the right way to intervene and understand what
was happening, how they could be helpful and what they should
do.
Now, there is much greater clarity with all the safeguarding
rules. The role of the school and the guidance provided are
definitely a big step forward. Initially I was sceptical: when
responsibility for children went from Health to Education, I was
very uncomfortable. At Health, I worked hand in hand with the
noble Lord, , and his predecessor, Sir
William Utting. As a Minister, I knew exactly what the social
services inspectors were thinking and what was happening on the
ground. I had to appear to give evidence at the Lambeth
children’s inquiry the other day. I referred to the social
services inspectors who came to the top of the office meeting
every week. Now at Education it is a much more fractured
relationship. You have a Children’s Commissioner, but it is not
the same as sitting at the same top table and understanding on a
daily basis.
Reference has been made to the Children Act. I pay tribute to our
colleague, Lord Mackay, as well as to the noble and learned
Baroness, Lady Hale, who I worked very closely with in her early
days. She was a force on the Children Act. The Act has stood the
test of time and I wondered why. I am able to share this. Every
Government in every party have new initiatives, new programmes
and new soundbites and, were the Government to change next
year—which I think is most unlikely—I hope any incoming
Government will not feel they have to start again and rebadge
everything in their terms.
What is needed for legislation is consistency. The point about
the Children Act is that an extraordinary civil servant, Rupert
Hughes, had years of consultation with charities, local
authorities and others, and took through the legislation. Then my
job was largely the implementation, which was a lot of standing
instruments and supplementary measures, again consulting with the
same people. They had all been on the journey; they could see
what had happened and would meet regularly together. In the
health service, people despair because they think have found an
answer and then the whole thing crumbles because of a new
initiative or a new plan.
In praising those with whom I worked, I also really celebrate
what is happening now. I greatly admire the effort and commitment
at the Department for Education. Various themes come through.
Social work is a wretched job: nobody thanks you for suggesting
to a parent that they might be abusing a child. Nobody thanks you
for leaving a child with parents who were abusing them. This is
desperately emotionally draining and difficult and social workers
are subject to ritual abuse whenever they get it wrong. So the
work on the front line of trying to improve careers and support
for social workers is fundamental.
Health visitors—the only people who legitimately can see children
at home, take their clothes off and make sure they are physically
well—play a crucial part. It is all about the early years. What
did the Jesuits say? “Show me the child at seven and I will show
you the man”. Turning a blind eye, waiting, delaying and hoping
it will be all right means that damage goes undetected, unseen
and neglected.
Of course, bringing up children is incredibly difficult. I see
that with my grandchildren. I do not know how I ever was a
mother; I probably was a very bad mother. My grandchildren have
grandparents and uncles and aunts and a lovely place where we can
go on holiday and be together. It takes a village to bring up a
child—yes—but a lot of people do not have a village: they do not
have a grandparent, a husband or a consistent neighbour. I simply
cannot emphasise enough what we all need to do to help young
parents cope. Margaret Harrison started Home-Start, a wonderful
organisation. Lord Keith Joseph—the man who made me a Tory, for
what it is worth—believed in the cycle of deprivation: that is
what he talked about. What did he say about education? He said
that the closest thing you have in education to a magic wand is
the quality of the head teacher. That must be right. The
responsibilities and the leadership they have are absolutely
enormous.
I wanted to touch on mental health. It is a huge problem and we
have to give it greater focus and understanding.
One-fifth of children leave school without even the most basic
qualifications and too many are excluded. Education is your
passport for the future: if you cannot read and write—and all
magistrates like me will know the number of children in court who
simply cannot read the oath—you do not have a hope going forward.
We need to make sure that we give better alternative provision to
those who are often slung out of school because they are an
absolute nuisance and left to wander the streets. Those who need
education most are getting it the least.
I want to commend the Online Safety Act, but I dare not. I would
like the noble Baroness to have another debate on the subject, so
that we can all say the things that we really wanted to say—but
congratulations to her again.
12.26pm
(Con)
My Lords, I also join with everybody in congratulating my noble
friend on securing this vital debate and on her excellent and
clear opening speech. It is certainly an honour to follow my
noble friend Lady Bottomley of Nettlestone.
Safeguarding in schools is highly complex and varied and I will
touch on only two areas today, relating to the need for
neutrality in our education system. Neutrality implies tolerance
of a multiplicity of views; it is therefore precious but fragile
and should itself be safeguarded.
Starting with the school strikes against the action in Israel and
Gaza, I declare my interest as the Christian vice-chair for the
Council of Christians and Jews. It was founded in 1942 by
Archbishop William Temple and Chief Rabbi Joseph Hertz when the
Holocaust was devastating European Jewry. Her late Majesty the
Queen was patron throughout her whole reign.
These strikes raise serious safeguarding concerns, with hundreds
of children leaving the security of school, in lesson time, for
political protests in towns and city centres. Parents and
teachers have very little control over who children meet or what
they are exposed to, despite schools’ legal safeguarding duties
set out in DfE statutory guidance, Keeping Children Safe in
Education. Large crowds and a politically charged atmosphere mean
that any school authorising pupils to attend a protest during
school hours cannot be fully in control of the risks to safety
and welfare.
Schools also risk breaching the Prevent duty, which requires
them
“‘to help prevent the risk of people becoming terrorists or
supporting terrorism’. This includes safeguarding learners from
extremist ideologies and radicalisation”.
Allowing children’s exposure to potentially genocidal or
anti-Semitic slogans such as
“From the river to the sea”
without countervailing views, is the very opposite of
safeguarding or good practice, which requires schools to maintain
political neutrality.
Ideas must be introduced and then discussed in the round of their
historical and political complexity. This is how lesson time on
these highly vexed issues should be spent. We need young people
to be interested in and well-informed about politics. Stating
political positions as self-evident facts intimidates learners
and shuts down debate. Can my noble friend the Minister inform
the House whether guidance requires ideological issues to be
introduced in a well-rounded and nuanced way? Is her department
investigating how, precisely, children became involved in these
school strikes, how they were made aware of and then joined
public protests outside the school gate?
Similarly, is the department investigating how extreme trans
ideology, which presents schools with significant safeguarding
concerns, was allowed to be adopted as fact, when it too is far
from neutral? Teaching children, including in early primary
school, about gender fluidity further entrenches the
sexualisation of childhood, conjoined as it often is with “sex
positivity”. The fact of the legal age of consent seems to be
ignored despite the key safeguarding reasons underlying it. Our
zeitgeist is deeply rooted in the notion that the development of
sexuality is indispensable to identity. This is not some
fundamental human truth but the idea of Sigmund Freud. To quote
Keynes,
“ideas … both when they are right and when they are wrong, are
more powerful than is commonly understood. Indeed the world is
ruled by little else”.
The education system should be a bulwark against pernicious ideas
evolving into domineering and bullying ideologies, and not simply
affirm both them and the young people persuaded by them.
I am not using the word “ideology” as a slur against a way of
thinking that is simply different to my own, but in the
Althusserian sense, that
“Ideology represents the imaginary relationship of individuals to
their real conditions of existence”.
Extreme trans ideology states, “I am what I feel, irrespective of
my biology”. It is the epitome of expressive individualism and
detached from reality. I draw a key distinction between gender
dysphoria, where sufferers and psych professionals know there is
something wrong, and ideological dispositions held, for example,
by bodily intact males who intend to remain so but feel they are
female and aggressively demand to be treated as such. Schools
should not consider themselves bound by the individual’s desire
to have this imagined reality validated, even if parents are on
board with it. Parents cannot dictate how schools are run for the
sake of their child: a decision to affirm a child’s chosen rather
than biological identity affects the whole school. Other children
can feel or even be genuinely coerced into affirming an
individual’s imagined reality. It confuses young children and
stifles the development of older children’s critical capacity.
Elsewhere, their education requires them to be led by facts and
evidence, but in this particular area feelings trump all
else.
The potential for harm to the young person who wants to socially
transition is a major safeguarding concern. Social transitioning
is the first step on the road to physical and pharmaceutical
changes that will last their whole lives and are often deeply
regretted.
I end where I began, with the need for neutrality. Dr Hilary
Cass, as we have heard, concluded that “social transition” is not
neutral but a major psychosocial intervention that may affect
whether a child’s gender distress disappears or becomes
long-lasting. In this age of affirmation, the ideologically
driven imperative to be kind has blinded schools to their
foundational safeguarding responsibilities. Will the DfE guidance
make that clear?
12.34pm
(Con)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for obtaining this important
debate. My focus today is on sport. I speak as a father and
grandfather of girls and boys who are and have been active in
sport. In making this speech, I am grateful for the great help I
have received from the charity Women in Sport.
Sport develops important fundamental movement skills. It shapes
attitudes towards physical activity. Sporting activity is
essential if we are to turn our children into adults with healthy
lifestyles. Today, we too often fail in this. We must do better
or we will have a lot of fat, unhealthy adults. To effect this,
we must start at primary school level. There, teachers and
coaches must recognise that there are important differences, even
at that age, between the sexes.
Even before puberty, the evidence is plain that boys have a
physical advantage. Innate testosterone gives speed, strength and
stamina. Young boys will generally—not always but generally—be
slightly faster and stronger than girls, and that applies
throughout the primary school age bracket. To avoid demotivating
girls, primary schools must recognise and act on this, giving
girls the chance to compete against other little girls. At
secondary level, the biological impacts of puberty really kick
in. Boys grow much taller, stronger and with greater
cardiovascular capacity than their female classmates. For girls,
the physical changes of puberty often create embarrassment and
awkwardness; periods become a barrier to being active.
As if that were not enough, in mixed sport, girls simply lose the
chance to win, to build self-esteem and even to have safe sport.
Teenage mixed sport damages confidence and, worse, risks physical
health. To safeguard girls, they must be offered proper female
sporting opportunities. Differences in sporting performance and
in strength between boys and girls mean that girls will not win
races if they do not have their own. In team sports—football,
hockey, rugby, cricket—it becomes a safety issue. In secondary
schools, girls must not have to share their changing rooms with
boys, including, if necessary, trans-identifying boys. Teenage
girls must have privacy.
It is a stated aim of all the sports councils funded via DCMS to
try to get more girls active and to keep them active. Mixed-sex
sport in schools undermines that goal. The ChildWise Monitor
Report of August 2022 found a significant gender gap in access to
sports. For example, only 33% of girls aged 11 to 16 said they
play football in school, compared to 63% of boys. Single-sex
sport is fundamental to fairness, to safety and to participation.
Mixed-sex sport can have an adverse impact on girls, even in
primary schools.
Let me quote one or two examples of what parents with primary
school children have said:
“On sports day, all our races were mixed. No little girls won
anything”.
“My daughter said, ‘what’s the point?’”
Olympic swimmer Sharron Davies MBE says she gets messages all the
time from parents and coaches who are afraid to say anything
publicly about this. School sports days are being made co-ed
because they do not want the hassle of dealing with the trans
issue.
I repeat that girls-only sports sessions are fundamentally
important because they encourage participation. Those in
authority in schools really must take this seriously and act to
protect and encourage our girls. Effective safeguarding in
schools includes and must include sport. This means recognising
the physical differences of the two sexes and giving practical
effect to what is needed.
12.39pm
(CB)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, , and I would like to
introduce him to my 12 year-old daughter if he feels that girls
cannot compete against boys at sports. I also thank the noble
Baroness, Lady Jenkin, for giving us the opportunity to talk on
such a vital topic. I can only stand here and admire the
expertise in the Chamber.
To say that safeguarding in schools is important is like saying
that it is useful to be able to breathe, so I assume that all
noble Lords agree on this basic point. As, I believe, the only
working teacher in both Houses of Parliament, I thought I would
give the House my view of safeguarding from the trenches, as it
were. I work in a very high-performing school in a challenging
part of Hackney—which, incidentally, bans mobile phones. As Peter
J Hughes, our CEO, wrote in his recent book on school
leadership:
“Children in our Hackney community die. Children in our hackney
community are often routinely stopped under Operation Trident.
Children in our Hackney community are strip-searched and
subjected to adultification in presumed places of safety. I am
very aware that these are three very powerful statements, but
they are true and they are every carer’s, parent’s, teacher’s,
principal’s, CEO’s and community’s worst nightmare. It is
something we cannot and will not ignore”.
It is against a backdrop like this that a school has get its
safeguarding right. Safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility.
This is repeatedly drummed into teachers, ancillary workers and
students. A change of behaviour in the playground, a dirty shirt
collar or a new pair of trainers can be an indicator of abuse or
grooming. Every one of those has to be reported, for it could be
the final piece in a jigsaw puzzle. Playgrounds are great places
to spot how a behaviour has changed, a pattern has emerged, a
gang has formed, or a student has been isolated by online
bullying. This is the front line—the short-term reaction—but in
fact safeguarding is more than that. Schools should be fun places
where pupils want to learn and teachers want to teach, and can
succeed in this only when we begin to get some of the 1.8 million
children who, according to the Children’s Commissioner, regularly
miss school back into regular attendance. On this topic, I ask
the Minister to comment on the Children’s Commissioner’s call
that every school should have a legal duty to report its
attendance daily.
As the Government’s guidance says:
“It is about the culture a school creates to keep its pupils safe
so that they can benefit fully from all that schooling
offers”.
That can be as simple as not setting an essay question like “A
trip to the beach” or “A walk in the woods”, because a
significant amount of children will not have experienced this and
they could feel isolated. We are told not to celebrate the end of
term because, for many children, school holidays signal the end
of any structure to their life, including a hot meal, and a
descent into chaos or just sheer boredom. For the majority, this
is not abuse in the classic sense; it is just that parents and
carers are too busy or distracted to provide more than the basics
of life without any further stimulation or companionship.
Schools are where students can receive kindness, from their
friends and teachers, and build and nurture relationships. Any
teacher will tell you that it is the genuine connections with
students that make them go to work each day. It is also about the
environment of the school. The head teacher of my school, Rebecca
Warren, always talks about the broken-window syndrome, whereby if
something is left unfixed, be it damage or graffiti, more serious
damage will follow. We underestimate the impact that school
surroundings make on students; if small damages go unrepaired,
then there is a sign of a more substantial malaise in the school.
I think we also underestimate the subconscious effect on students
that, if the school does not care about the building, it does not
care about them. This is one thing that does not require much
money, just organisation. The worry is that this could be
another, as yet unseen, consequence of the RAAC saga.
Safeguarding needs to be baked into the curriculum and this is
where Government and schools can do more to help changing
behaviours in students, thereby helping from within. There are
some lessons that need to be threaded through the term, rather
than just saved for PHSCE, the once-a-term day when these topics
are normally discussed. Many parents and children see this day as
another Inset day, particularly those who hold beliefs that are
challenged by the subjects studied then. Surely they are the
students who would most benefit from a balanced debate on such
subjects. Tender is a charity that uses drama workshops to
provide a safe space where young people can rehearse for
real-life scenarios and recognise what makes something healthy or
unhealthy behaviour. By using this in drama lessons that all
students study, say in year 7, all students can get a deep
understanding of the issues. This could be more useful than a
lifetime of PHSCE days, and I would be interested to hear the
Minister’s view on embedding more strategies for safeguarding and
general well-being into the curriculum, rather than on drop-down
days.
I have been trying to be as optimistic as I can around this
subject and I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Morris of
Yardley, that things have improved. There are great stories of
great people doing great work but, while there are so many
children living in poverty, a school is limited to what it can
do. I spoke to a safeguarding lead recently who said that if they
were one of these children today, particularly the boys, they
would be in a gang, for so many of them feel that it is the only
way they can earn money, perhaps for their family or even for a
new set of trainers, because they see no other way out beyond
starting to carry packages for cash. My Lords, we have a lot of
work to do.
12.46pm
(Con)
My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Jenkin for securing this
debate and all other noble Lords for their insightful
contributions. Along with my noble friend , I would like to share a
few reflections on the role that safeguarding plays in an area
that goes hand in hand with the educational setting, that of
sport.
Safeguarding is at the heart of what sport embodies, ensuring
fair play in a safe and fun environment. For “teacher”, think
“coach”. For “pupil”, think “athlete”. For “parent”—well, they
are irreplaceable. I declare an interest as a parent of children
who are in school and take part extensively in curricular and
extracurricular sport. I also sit on the other side of the fence,
in that I am on the management group of one of our
highest-performing Olympic sports. I am chair of one of our
sports national governing bodies in the UK and sit on the finance
committee of its international federation. Alongside performance,
safeguarding is at the core of what we do. In the short time we
have available, I will not be able to do justice to the vital
work that UK Sport and colleagues in other national governing
bodies are doing in this important area. Just last week, I
attended its annual PLx conference and one of the sessions was
dedicated to this precise topic: safeguarding in sport. Sarah
Powell, CEO of British Gymnastics, and Andy Salmon, CEO of
British Triathlon, are spearheading this on behalf of UK
Sport.
One of the key concerns that all sports are facing, because of
the complexity and jeopardy involved with safeguarding, is that
coaches are losing the confidence to coach. I am sure that
educators would say that teachers are also losing the confidence
to teach. The issue is that all sports, whether dealing with
adults or children—and not only those that have a robust
regulatory framework to work within—need to become safeguarding
compliant. We need to require minimum safeguarding standards for
any sport, particularly those taking place in an educational or
informal setting. Those of us involved in the governance of sport
are committed to ensuring the highest standards of integrity,
welfare and safeguarding across all sport. We are clear that
anyone who does not want to abide by these standards is not
welcome in sport.
We all know how important sport is to the nation, and
particularly to children. Education is crucial to people’s mental
health, as sport is to their physical health. I will not rehearse
the arguments that place sport at the centre of our national
well-being and our psyche.
At its heart, safeguarding is about the protection of people—in
this case, children. However, protecting children also protects
the adults who interact with them. The NSPCC Child Protection in
Sport Unit’s definition states:
“Safeguarding refers to the process of protecting children and
adults to provide safe and effective care”.
Governmental education institutions and sport national governing
bodies need to harmonise. All international and national
governing bodies have leadership roles to play, to provide and be
provided with guidance and best practice, enabling convergence of
policy and legislation.
This brings me on to a topic I have spent quite a bit of time on,
albeit through the lens of sports governance: gender versus sex
classification in sport. There are some simple concepts that I
feel will help build an understanding of this sometimes complex
and confusing subject. Gender can be fluid, with up to 107
identified to date. On the other hand, biological sex is
essentially binary, determined at birth and known as birth, natal
or assigned sex. There are further complexities in defining sex,
so how do we, and should we, make sense of this complexity?
Quite simply, the key here is that within safeguarding, there has
to be a protected characteristic. In sport, that is female, both
from a competitive standpoint and in terms of social and
environmental construct. The reason why we have biological male
and female categories, not, erroneously, men’s and women’s—terms
generally used in gender identification—is that females are
considered to be disadvantaged physiologically. As we have heard
from my noble friend , even in amateur
recreational sport, it is unfair and unsafe for them to play
against biological males. Female sport, whether high-performance
professional or recreational amateur, should be a protected
category.
I know from personal experience what it is like for my eight
year-old daughter—who, by the way, is no shrinking violet—to want
to play football but to have to do so in a mixed environment
where she is the only girl. Again, as my noble friend also
highlighted, this acts as a huge disincentive for young girls to
play sport. Trans activists will try to claim that this amounts
to discrimination. My clear response to that, in the performance
environment, is that trying to exploit ambiguities within
classification in sport is tantamount to doping. It is a form of
cheating. A person who is born a male, even if they transition
pre or post-puberty, will always have a physiological advantage
over a biological female. No amount of reassignment will change
that.
There will always be differences that lead to unfair advantages.
Allowing a biologically male trans person to play alongside natal
females, unless all players consent, or allowing that person
access to female changing facilities, are not safe practices.
Consider when a male trans athlete causes a life-changing injury
to a female player because of their vastly differing
physiologies. Ask females what they feel about intact males
entering intimate spaces such as changing rooms. They feel
extremely vulnerable and possibly violated, and I suggest that if
anyone allows this to happen, they are in clear breach of
safeguarding and are promoting harm.
I am liberal-minded enough to believe that people should be able
to express themselves in ways they see fit, as long as it does
not have an adverse impact on other people’s enjoyment of life
or, in this case, an activity in the educational or recreational
setting. The key issue here is consent. People who are affected
by an accommodation to allow a trans athlete to compete need to
consent and not have it imposed upon them against their will by
an ill-equipped governing body, or have the issue hijacked by
extreme gender ideology and people with aberrant or criminal
intent.
12.54pm
(Con)
My Lords, I join with others in thanking my noble friend Lady
Jenkin for initiating this debate. I also thank all contributors
so far for their thoughtful and helpful comments and ideas on
this difficult and complex subject. I particularly thank the
noble Lord, , for challenging us with his
interesting speech. As a former teacher, I empathised a great
deal with his contribution, and I thank him for it.
Safeguarding involves thinking the unthinkable. This does not
mean that we always assume the worst, but that we attempt to
consider all possibilities and mitigate risk where possible. We
should not underestimate the role and importance that single-sex
spaces play in safeguarding. A simple policy that safeguards and
protects girls when they are undressing, sleeping or otherwise
vulnerable is providing a single-sex space such as lavatories,
changing rooms and dormitories. Yet, we are seeing numerous
examples of this simple policy being ignored, often under the
guise of being progressive or inclusive. A recent report from
Policy Exchange found that at least 28% of secondary schools are
not maintaining single-sex lavatories. This is not only a
safeguarding issue; it is against the law.
Under the School Premises (England) Regulations 2012, schools are
legally required to provide single-sex lavatories and washing
facilities for children aged over eight, except where the
lavatory facility is provided in a room that can be secured from
the inside and is intended for use by one pupil at a time. If a
school has changed all previous sex-separated facilities to
mixed-sex without fulfilling this requirement, it is in breach of
the law.
We hear of incidents such as one at a school where the police
were called over allegations that female pupils were sexually
assaulted in its gender-neutral lavatories. In another case, a
teenage boy was arrested over four allegations of serious sexual
assault at an Essex school. A newspaper reported that three of
the alleged attacks took place in lavatories used by boys and
girls. Also:
“A secondary school has been criticised over its unisex
lavatories after a teenage girl was injured when a male classmate
allegedly kicked down a cubicle door to photograph her”.
Many schools are adopting policies that replace sex with gender
and set rules which require staff and young people to ignore or
make it taboo to talk about a person’s actual sex if they prefer
to be referred to as the opposite sex. This conflicts with
safeguarding legislation and principles. Staff, pupils and
parents raising safeguarding concerns about mixed-sex facilities,
often introduced in an effort to get the approval of lobby
groups, are dismissed as transphobic or pressured into using
language that erases risk. Safeguarding systems cannot work where
people are not able to speak clearly and openly about risks.
Safeguarding is everyone’s business, including that of society as
a whole. By not utilising a “safeguarding first” approach, we are
letting down our children. Perhaps it is time for a public
inquiry.
My noble friend Lady Jenkin and others have talked about how
safeguarding is defined in “Working Together to Safeguard
Children”. This child-centred approach is fundamental to
safeguarding and promoting the welfare of every child. A
child-centred approach means keeping the child in focus when
making decisions about their lives, and working in partnership
with them and their families.
Safeguarding and promoting the welfare of children is everyone’s
responsibility. Everyone who comes into contact with children and
their families has a role to play. All practitioners should
follow the principles of the Children Acts 1989 and 2004, which
state that the welfare of children is paramount and that they are
best looked after within their families, with their parents
playing a full part in their lives, unless compulsory
intervention in family life is necessary.
Everyone who works with children has a responsibility for keeping
them safe. No single practitioner can have a full picture of a
child’s needs and circumstances and, if children and families are
to receive the right help at the right time, everyone who comes
into contact with them has a role to play in identifying
concerns, sharing information and taking prompt action.
Advice from lobby groups regarding keeping information about a
child’s distress confidential from parents, family and other
agencies, and refusing to share teaching materials with parents,
directly contradicts safeguarding guidance on information
sharing. Fears about sharing information must not be allowed to
stand in the way of the need to promote the welfare, and protect
the safety, of children, which must always be the paramount
concern.
1.01pm
(Con)
My Lords, I join everybody else in thanking my noble friend Lady
Jenkin for securing time for this important and interesting
debate.
As a historian, I will give your Lordships a brief oversight into
the history of transgenderism, as I think it will help throw some
light on the current debate. For the previous 30 centuries or so
before the 1960s, while there is plenty of evidence of
hermaphroditism and cross-dressing, there have been remarkably
few people who genuinely believe that they have become a member
of the other sex from the one in which they were born. We have
the Roman Emperor Heliogabalus from the early third century AD,
who the historian Dio Cassius says asked his doctors to change
his sex, but there is no indication that they did this for him.
He had five marriages and four wives—he married one wife twice.
There is no real indication that he changed his sex, although the
North Hertfordshire Museum has him down with female personal
pronouns.
Then, there was the very colourful Chevalier d’Éon in the late
18th century, who in 1777, at the age of 49, declared that he was
a woman. That was accepted by Louis XVI and the British courts,
although it was comprehensively disproven at the time of his
post-mortem. In the 19th century, the female Albert Cashier
fought in the American Civil War as a man. In 1952, the first
actual sex change took place in America, for Christine Jorgensen.
Here in Britain, it was in 1960 with April Ashley and in 1964
with the historian Jan Morris, whom I knew tangentially. The very
fact that we know these people’s names and that they are well
known to history is indicative of how rare this phenomenon
was.
Then came the 1960s, when post-modernist thought posited that
there is no such thing as absolute truth, and that if you feel
something, or you think you feel something, that is your truth,
which has equal validity to objective truth. The objective truth
is that whatever the sexuality you choose—you have the right to
choose whichever one you want—you genuinely cannot change your
biological sex.
The term “transgender” did not come into existence until the
1990s, but in Britain today, normal Britons who speak about this
to their GPs are six times more likely to say that they are
transgender than they were 10 years ago. This has all the
hallmarks of a classic example of social contagion, in which the
internet, smartphones and social media, the fashion and
advertising industries, various pressure groups, TV programmes
and some doctors, who undertake mutilating surgery on perfectly
healthy bodies, have come together to create what is,
essentially, a new ideology—one not anchored in the human
experience of the past 3,000 years of recorded history.
The result has been a breakdown in social structures, where men
are to be found in women’s prisons, women’s lavatories, women’s
changing rooms, as we heard earlier in the debate, and women’s
sports—places where they do not belong and have no right to be.
As with everything to do with transgenderism, common sense seems
to fly out of the window.
It is our duty to help teachers safeguard children as much as
possible from being unduly exposed to this historically new
phenomenon, which we must of course tolerate because we are
civilised people, but which ought to be extremely rare, as it has
been for three millennia before our present age.
1.05pm
(Con) [V]
My Lords, I thank my noble friend for his
important historical perspective.
I join others in thanking my noble friend Lady Jenkin of
Kennington, not just for securing this important debate but for
her courageous commitment to facilitating balanced and
well-informed consideration of such vital issues as protecting
the integrity of women’s sport, defending women’s and girls’
rights to safe spaces, and exposing, in many cases, the
unintended consequences for women and children of the affirmation
of gender self-identity, whether in our prisons or the classroom.
I say “courage” because, sadly, that is essential to brave the
bile and vitriol which anyone who has the temerity to challenge
the cancel culture extremism seems to attract. We need only look
at how JK Rowling, Maya Forstater, Kathleen Stock and KC MP have been treated to
know just how true that is.
It is hard to think of anywhere where the extremism, in terms of
the intensity of the battle that we have heard about during this
debate going on for the hearts and minds of our young people, is
more acute than in the classroom and schools. To all intents and
purposes, they have become a battleground. Anyone who has been
through adolescence knows that it is torment enough without the
complexity of considering whether you have been born in the wrong
body or should change your gender.
I am not a parent, nor will I ever be one. The very strong
probability that any child of mine would have the same condition
that I have precludes that possibility. Others with brittle bones
make different choices and I respect them for that, but I know I
am not strong enough to risk visiting on anyone the pain, shame
and discrimination that I have experienced as a result of it. But
an inability to speak as a parent should not disqualify me, or
anyone else, from voicing concern about the threat posed to the
integrity and effectiveness of safeguarding guidance by advice
from lobby groups that information about a child’s
distress—perhaps about their gender—should be kept confidential
from parents, family and other agencies, and that teaching
materials should be treated as confidential and not shared with
parents. Surely, that directly contradicts safeguarding guidance
on information sharing.
As a disabled person, I have a personal vested interest in
safeguarding progress towards greater equality, whether on the
protected characteristics of disability, sex, ethnicity or sexual
orientation. Progress on each invariably impacts on the whole.
Moreover, I am sure we all have reason to be grateful for the
courage of people such as Simon Fanshawe, not just for
co-founding Stonewall in 1989 but more recently for reminding us
that
“Spaces have to be safe for disagreement, not from
disagreement”—
in other words, and I paraphrase, that cancel culture is
counterproductive because extremism engenders extremism, which
puts progress towards equality as a whole at risk.
What I find remarkable is the extent to which the equality
landscape has been transformed in the almost three and a half
decades since Stonewall’s foundation, in no small part due to its
formidable campaigning. I say “equality landscape” because I
would not be in the least bit surprised if many people saw issues
such as equal marriage as almost a key performance indicator of
society’s attitudes towards equality per se. That is undoubtedly
to Stonewall’s credit, but having played so crucial a role in
securing that progress, surely it has an equally key role to
play—indeed, a responsibility—to safeguard progress towards
greater equality. I am not sure it appreciates that. In fact,
Stonewall’s ostracisation of Simon Fanshawe and its unfortunate
association with an aggressive, polarising cancel culture, the
promotion of gender self-identity in our schools, and, at best,
an indifference to the erosion of women’s and girls’ rights to
safe spaces suggests the opposite.
That is such a shame, because the extremism generated is
inevitably provoking a backlash across the piece. In my
experience as a disabled person, such a climate is legitimising
regressive attitudes towards and treatment of disabled people,
which I thought was ancient history. Progress towards equality is
so precious. History shows that it is also incredibly fragile.
That is why safeguarding progress towards equality for future
generations depends on our safeguarding the current generation of
children and young people in school today.
1.13pm
(Non-Afl)
My Lords, it is an honour to follow my friend, the noble Lord,
, and I commend his continual
efforts to preserve and safeguard disability rights in this place
and outside of it. I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Jenkin, for
her leadership in introducing this debate so powerfully on the
exponential rise in children’s suffering.
I wish to make some general points about safeguarding, and
particularly about the impact of Prevent and the Channel
programme on Muslim children. Although not currently practising,
I have been a social worker since 1984, qualifying and later
working mostly in east London. Keeping children safe and
protecting their welfare requires a multiagency response and
structures, which includes social workers, police, health
visitors, local safeguarding boards and medical staff.
Safeguarding has indeed evolved over the decades—many will argue
for the better, while many more will cite inadequate resources
constraining the support that families under duress urgently
require. Around 3 million cases of child abuse are reported each
year, with 5.5 million children involved. NSPCC alone has this
year received 22,000 referrals of children deemed unsafe. This
House has debated childhood experience of trauma on countless
occasions, and we know all too well that poverty, physical and
sexual abuse, drugs, caring responsibilities, experience of
racism and other forms of discrimination, witnessing violence in
their homes, online pornography and bullying cause untold damage
to children’s mental well-being.
These facets are common among all our children across the UK. As
with violence against women, such experiences are regardless of
class, gender, race and faith. As an experienced social worker
working with children and families, I am cognisant of the
pressures of managing statutory intervention, which is complex.
One cannot overemphasise the trauma and anguish of all families,
whether a family member is the perpetrator or not. It causes
immense turbulence to the child and their siblings. It has to be
said that when, on occasions, cases concerning children from
minority backgrounds were dropped or closed, this was often due
to a profound lack of understanding of family nuances, cultural
norms and practices, as well as of languages, and was frequently
based on the premise that somehow children, particularly young
girls, were more vulnerable, in part to do with their race and/or
culture or faith.
In this context, I wish to raise some matters relating to Prevent
and Channel, and the duty that requires all education providers
to help prevent the risk of people becoming terrorists or
supporting terrorism, which then triggers a multiagency approach
to safeguarding when children and young people are deemed
vulnerable, and at risk of radicalisation and extremism. The
Prevent duty extension to public bodies has led to young Muslim
children in particular being seen through the lens of security.
As a result, social workers, police officers and perhaps even
some teachers believe that children as young as four could be
radicalised—equivalent to, “In the womb, potential future
terrorists lie”. Education institutions have been issued guidance
that promotes some mendacious ideas, such as that signs of
radicalisation may include references to, “Allahu Akbar”,
“Alhamdulillah”, which means praise be to God, and international
conflicts, especially Palestine, as we now see. Teachers who do
not have the sufficient training or knowledge go as far
suggesting to children that prayers are not obligatory, and a
Muslim Council of Britain report cites an example of a science
class on nuclear fission where making a bomb was discussed and a
child of Muslim faith being the only one to be referred for
safeguarding concerns when he discussed it.
Prevent has caused much unnecessary misery and suffering for
children and families. One report suggests that, of 4,406
referrals to Prevent in the year to March 2022, 76% were deemed
unsuitable for Channel consideration and exited the process. The
majority of those—77%—were signposted to other services,
including educational and health support.
A report by Rights Watch UK concludes, and I agree, that Prevent,
and in particular the introduction of the statutory duty on
teachers and other public servants to report signs of
radicalisation, is stifling children’s fundamental rights and
freedoms, including to freedom of expression and belief. It
dehumanises many very young children and has a detrimental impact
on their mental health, self-confidence and trust in those who
have responsibility for their well-being. On many occasions,
children are referred without their parents’ knowledge or
consent. This is not about child sexual abuse or physical abuse;
it is about children’s thinking and behaviour. There is a clear
need for safe spaces where young people can express their
feelings and opinions without threat and fear of a safeguarding
referral.
The Prevent process is obstructive and creates significant
alienation and lack of faith in the education system. To
undermine young minds in such a brutal manner violates trust and
may cause their long-term mental well-being to suffer, as well as
detrimentally impacting their education. We are familiar with the
horrifying numbers: in July 2021 one in six children aged five to
16 were identified as having a probable mental health problem in
July 2021; now it is almost five children in every classroom. NHS
figures show that more than a million children needed treatment
for serious mental health problems in the past year, as reported
by the Telegraph earlier this year.
Children are the product of their environment, home and society.
Information on international events will be visible to many
homes, online, in schools and in playgrounds, and certainly
happening in school council debates all over the country. These
matters must not shut down children of any backgrounds or faiths.
It is incumbent on all of us to encourage children to express
their views without fear of punitive measures on them and their
families. Building resilient children who are our future is an
absolute obligation to which each of us must be united to ensure
our common humanity and a peaceful society.
1.21pm
(Con)
My Lords, the purpose of schools is to educate, but if there is
an even important purpose it is to safeguard the children in
their care. The vast majority of teachers take that seriously,
but there are concerns that the education that some schools
provide is actually a risk to children. We might even ask if
“education” is the right word for it. When schooling is captured
by an ideological agenda, it leads to poor, uncritical education,
and schools can become blind to what really is in the best
interest of children, or blind to the risks that they are
exposing them to—especially on sexual issues.
The Sex Education Forum is a sort of trade body for the sex
education industry. It downplays these concerns, but you would
expect that because it is implicated in the failures that we are
talking about. Safeguarding concerns should never be downplayed.
Clear boundaries and transparency are key principles of
safeguarding. If a concern is raised, it has to be properly
investigated. The evidence must be examined, and those with the
responsibility of overseeing education must not allow themselves
to be fobbed off by people claiming that they can be trusted and
that there is nothing to worry about. The source of the problem
is third-party organisations which present themselves to schools
as experts—organisations offering advice, training, teaching
materials and even external speakers to come in and deliver
lessons. In reality, many of them are highly partisan campaign
groups with agendas that conflict with some of the duties placed
on schools. Regrettably, this radicalism has been prevalent in
the sector for some time. Jessica Ringrose is a board member of
the Queering Education Research Institute, a professor at UCL and
an adviser to the School of Sexuality Education, which provides
speakers. She was a lead author on an academic paper—I just want
to read a few lines from its abstract:
“In this paper we explore our experiences working as a team, who
have formed an intra-activist research and pedagogical assemblage
to experiment with RSE practices. We draw upon phEmaterialism
theory and socially engaged, participatory arts-based research
methodologies and pedagogies to explore two examples of
arts-based activities that have been developed to de-center
humanist, male-dominated, phallocentric, penile-oriented
RSE”.
This is from a journal called Reconceptualizing Educational
Research Methodology,and the article is entitled “Play-Doh Vulvas
and Felt Tip Dick Pics: Disrupting Phallocentric Matter(s) in Sex
Education”.
These people are not even pretending not to be activists. We
should be much more sceptical about the materials that these
organisations are producing. Ringrose’s research boasts of one
example where 12 year-old girls were tasked with working in
groups using sexually explicit images some had received on their
phones. These organisations know that they are up to no good. I
say that because the School of Sexuality Education was the
organisation behind the Clare Page case. When she complained as a
mum about what her children were being shown in sex education,
the School of Sexuality Education told the school that it was not
allowed to show the classroom materials to anyone, citing
commercial confidentiality. Not being able to refer to the
materials hampered her ability to effectively progress her
complaint. Norfolk Council’s scheme—a Conservative council—for
primary schools instructs children to make plasticine models to
illustrate
“a condom catching semen from a penis”,
and gives inaccurate information about the age of consent. Six
and seven year-olds in Warwickshire—a Conservative council—were
asked to discuss the scenario of a girl who enjoys touching
herself between her legs when she has a bath. Thankfully, that
programme was withdrawn by the council, but only under the threat
of legal action. On gender ideology, in addition to the
excessively explicit nature of some sex education, we now have
the pervasive presentation of gender ideology as a fact. A lesson
plan from the group Kapow presented children with a spectrum of
stereotypical male and female interests, and instructed them to
match their own so-called gender identity in relation to the
spectrum. Then it told them to ignore what anybody else says to
them about their gender and choose their own.
This distancing of pupils from the influence of others,
especially their own parents, is dangerous; it is a safeguarding
issue in itself. Parents are often not aware of what is going on
with their own kids in sex education. Even when they are, they
are often made to feel powerless, and there seems to be a
deliberate strategy to reduce the influence of parents over the
education of their own children. Some brave parents submit formal
complaints, but it is hard for them to get anyone to listen to
them and actually change anything. If they work through all the
stages of a school’s complaints process without success, and if
they still have the energy to continue, they can escalate it to
the Department for Education, but the department does not seem to
handle these complaints well. In one case I have been made aware
of, a parent has been waiting for well over a year for the DfE to
respond substantially to an escalated complaint. In another, the
DfE says that it received the complaint but then lost it. The
parent printed it out again and posted it off two months ago—she
is still waiting. Perhaps the Minister might agree to meet me to
discuss these cases. It seems that the DfE is effectively
disempowering parents who are courageous enough to make a stand
and, while they wait for a response to their complaints, children
continue to be exposed to materials that their parents regard as
unsuitable and harmful. The School of Sexuality Education
contributed to two of the DfE’s own RSHE training modules for
teachers. I am afraid we must ask whether the DfE has not been
captured and compromised itself. The situation is a mess: it is
imperative that the Secretary of State and her Ministers get a
grip and act urgently.
1.28pm
(Lab)
My Lords, I start by congratulating the noble Baroness, Lady
Jenkin of Kennington, on her opening speech. There was very
little in it that I disagreed with. I want to associate myself
with the powerful intervention of the noble Lord, , a teacher in the London
Borough of Hackney, an area I know well. I live in Tower Hamlets,
where, for the most part, I also experienced my education.
I was not intending to say this, but I find elements of what I
have heard today deeply troubling. They remind me of how people
referred to me as a gay man across the decades, and what
dehumanisation and defaming does. Yes, I say to the noble
Baroness shaking her head; defamation and dehumanisation is a
threat to life. I experienced no safeguarding during my school
years and subsequently, as a queer, I experienced years of sexual
and physical abuse until the age of 15. Therefore, for the
avoidance of any doubt, I am passionate about adequate,
proportionate and essential safeguarding and empowering young
people, especially those who belong to minorities.
I also wish to refute the misrepresentation of Stonewall by the
noble Lord, . I am proud to be a
co-founder of that organisation and I still support it.
It is absolutely clear to anyone listening to this debate or
otherwise, or taking the slightest interest in safeguarding, that
addressing the concerns that we have heard about today is
important—and addressing them with teachers and other
professionals within the schools sector. It is vital that we
engage professionals and practitioners in these areas, and not
leave it to the whims and wishes of others offering, generally,
nothing more than anecdotal evidence or allegations in the
press.
Due to current levels of interest in young trans people in
schools, I wish to recall that, five years ago, the Government
committed to producing guidance for schools to support—I repeat,
support—children who are questioning their gender. There is a
range of views about how best to support young people, but there
is clear consensus that guidance is needed. Just yesterday during
her Statement in the other place, the Minister for Women and
Equalities repeated her assurance that the guidance would be
issued “shortly”. I hope that this is not another
characteristically empty promise from the Government. I say to
the Women and Equalities Minister that it is preferable to
produce Statements, whether external or within the House, and
guidance, based on evidence and not on wild allegations.
Safeguarding, as has been mentioned, has a specific meaning
regarding the protection of children and vulnerable adults from
abuse, neglect and harm. It is also worth repeating what the
noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, said: parents are not automatically
involved in safeguarding reports regarding their children, as it
is recognised that not all families are automatically a safe
environment for children. Some one in 14 children experiences
sexual abuse at the hands of their parents or guardians. Again to
repeat the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, creating an environment
where a child is expected to suppress a part of their identity is
increasingly regarded by medical practitioners as harmful.
Preventing a child accessing beneficial treatment can also be
considered to be neglect or abuse, which therefore falls into
safeguarding concerns. A 2022 report by Galop, the LGBT+
anti-abuse charity, found that 43% of trans people had suffered
abuse at the hands of their family. From listening to some of the
statements about trans people, one does not much wonder why.
Another study, in 2016, reported that family rejection has a
positive correlation with both suicide attempts and substance
misuse.
To repeat, and for the avoidance of any doubt, the safeguarding
of children and young people must protect all children and young
people, without reservation or exclusion. That includes LGBTQ+,
non-binary and intersex people. Furthermore, any relationship and
sex education in schools must be inclusive, and there must be no
attempt to create another Section 28, or Section 2A of the Local
Government Act 1986, which caused so much harm to so many
people.
While I recognise that most people hold their views seriously and
sincerely, I say directly to the Minister that there must be no
return to the prejudice and hate of the past. It must be resisted
on every occasion. There should be no return to the
ignorance—sometimes well-intentioned ignorance—that contributed
to the fear that harmed and damaged so many young people.
Dehumanisation and defamation do not safeguard anyone, and they
result in crimes against persons who are perceived as
different.
Trans people are not a threat. Lawbreakers and rule-breakers are
a threat, but there are well-organised, well-funded campaigns to
demonise, defame and misrepresent LGBT+ people, especially trans
people. That is utterly shameful. It will do no good to anyone
and will only continue to create misery and harm for LGBT+ young
people, trans people and their families. Indeed, it undermines
the very society in which we all live.
As a civilised society, we need to protect vulnerable minorities
and young people and children who associate or belong within
those minorities. Every child and young person should have the
inalienable right to be themselves, authentically and without
fear. Our futures depend on it: indeed, their futures depend upon
it.
Finally, I ask the Minister for an unequivocal assurance that any
approach to safeguarding is based on verifiable evidence and not
on opinion or anecdote. It is sad that I have to request this,
but I seek a categorical reassurance that no child or young
person will be left behind, that no child or young person,
including LGBT+, non-binary and intersex, will be isolated, and
that each child or young person will be enabled, indeed
encouraged, to grow, achieve their unique potential and develop
their own identity.
1.36pm
The (Con)
My Lords, that was a very impassioned speech by the noble Lord,
. I too had not intended to
say this, but I want to make the point that I support minorities
and the underdog. But six days ago, the noble Lord, , tweeted on X:
“The right wing in the House of Lords has organised a debate for
the 7th of December on safeguarding in schools! We must push back
against these people”.
What on earth did he mean? Debbie Hayton, the respected teacher
and trans woman, responded:
“Pushing back against those concerned about safeguarding is maybe
not what you meant, Michael?”
So first I congratulate my dear noble friend Lord Stansgate, who
is sitting on the Woolsack for the first time. I also thank my
kinswoman and noble friend Lady Jenkin for securing this
important debate.
Schools are a place where children should be nurtured and
nourished, a place of safety where they can grow up slowly, safe
from the outside world and some of the more unpleasant and
pernicious influences that inhabit our world and, from time to
time, cross our paths. Pornography is one of those influences
that I am sure every noble Peer and person in this Chamber agrees
should not be available in schools—but I am afraid it is; it is
readily available.
In my day, as a red-blooded sixth-former, you might chance upon a
well-thumbed copy of Playboy or Mayfair, which were fairly
benign, But now, due to the internet and the fact that so many
children of the age of 12 or younger have smartphones, a huge
panoply of pornography of every type is revealed and is so easily
accessed. A young child merely has to tick a box stating that
they are 18 or over and they are in.
Internet porn is readily available and there is so much of it.
Many more people are exposed to it and/or choose to watch it in
the anonymity of their own home, safe from prying eyes. We know
from many things that we find on the internet that it is very
easy to head down the rabbit hole. It is the same with
pornography, with increasing categories of depravity available.
Think of the category of rough sex and go further, to where young
girls—it is always young girls—are abused, often by multiple men.
I will stop there but, believe me, it gets worse.
What is worrying is the effect that this increased viewing of
hardcore porn is having, primarily on men. The Times on Wednesday
reported on a study by Edinburgh University’s Childlight child
safety institute, which surveyed 4,500 men from the UK, USA and
Australia. More than one in 20 said that they would have sexual
contact with a child between the age of 10 and 14 if they knew
that it would be kept a secret. Among British men, 1.6% said that
they would definitely have sexual contact with a 12 to 14
year-old if it stayed a secret, with 2.6% saying that they would
be very likely to. An additional 7% admitted to having sexual
feelings toward children, which they did not act upon. The
proportion was higher in Australia and higher still in
America.
According to the International Society for the Prevention of
Child Abuse and Neglect, one in four girls and one in five boys
have been sexually abused, with half of them abused by their 13th
birthday. I do not know the figures for the UK but I sincerely
hope they are not that high. Dr , an associate professor at
the University of New South Wales—which co-authored the report
with the University of Edinburgh—stated that the rise in online
child offences is part of a global trend over the past two
decades, adding that an unregulated online environment is a
direct cause of sexual offending against children. He said:
“Men who are sexually offending against children are watching a
lot more online pornography but also the type of content they are
consuming is very deviant … It is more likely to be violent. It’s
more likely to be forceful”.
A report commissioned by and the New Social
Covenant Unit, What is Being Taught in Relationships and Sex
Education in Our Schools?, called for a government review. It
highlights how things have changed since the guidance produced by
the DfE in 2000, which stated:
“What is sex and relationship education? It is lifelong learning
about physical, moral and emotional development. It is about the
understanding of the importance of marriage for family life,
stable and loving relationships, respect, love and care. It is
also about the teaching of sex, sexuality, and sexual health. It
is not about the promotion of sexual orientation or sexual
activity—this would be inappropriate teaching”.
I think we could all feel very happy with that definition of RSE.
However, this statement does not feature in the latest 2019 RSE
guidance, which contains advice that is not compatible with the
definition. Indeed, now, there is strong evidence that actors
with a radical ideological position on sex, gender and sexuality
are monopolising the RSE third sector, as my noble friend Lord
Jackson said.
I shall give your Lordships a couple of examples. My noble friend
mentioned Jessica Ringrose from UCL and Amelia Jenkinson, the
former CEO of the School of Sexuality Education. He also
mentioned the article “Play-Doh Vulvas and Felt Tip Dick Pics”.
If your Lordships will indulge me, children aged between 12 and
16 were encouraged to draw sexually explicit images, including
hands masturbating erections with the words “Wanna see me cum?”
and “Now it’s your turn—ride me”. The academics went on to record
that
“there was a sense of solidarity”—
that is ironic—
“amongst the girls … as they discussed the pictures they had
received from ‘random old men’ on Snapchat”.
Is that really acceptable? Certainly not, particularly for the 12
and 13 year-olds in the classes who were needlessly exposed to
this sort of thing having mercifully never experienced it in real
life.
It gets worse. Another provider, Split Banana, gives lessons to
children of the same age in which it describes four types of sex:
penis-in-vagina sex, oral sex, masturbation and anal sex. Its
lessons created an equivalence for heterosexual couples between
anal and vaginal sex, which has the potential to mislead children
about whether anal sex is a universally enacted, desirable or
safe sexual practice.
I leave noble Lords with this. In preparation for this debate, I
asked my own children at what age they had first been exposed to
pornography and how it had affected them. Only one was happy to
answer: when she was 12, looking at an iPod Touch Christmas
present with her male cousin of the same age. Her reaction? She
threw the iPod across the room. She was terrified.
1.43pm
(Con)
My Lords, I, too, welcome and thank my noble friend Lady Jenkin
of Kennington for bringing this debate to the Floor of the House
today. I draw the House’s attention to my interests in the
register on autism as, unsurprisingly, it is that subject that I
wish to address today. I will focus on the safeguarding of
autistic children in the education system. This will include both
those with an autism diagnosis and those as yet undiagnosed, for
whom an assessment and a subsequent plan to support the child
through education—as outlined in the Autism Act 2009—are often
needed right through their transition from childhood into
adulthood.
In her representation of today’s debate, my noble friend Lady
Jenkin outlined in some detail the Government’s definition of
safeguarding in the context of education, so I will not repeat it
now. However, I emphasise—not for the first time—that autism is a
spectrum and the needs of an individual should be assessed by
those with significant training and qualifications in autism and
neurodiversity. Autism is different. It is a communication
disorder. Both physical and mental bullying are common. The
individual’s development of a sense of self can be slower than
that of their peer group. Idiosyncratic behaviour, such as
echolalia, can attract unwanted hostile responses. Timely
assessment, diagnosis and support are essential.
Schools will struggle to carry out their statutory duties in
respect of safeguarding until there is rapid improvement in this
process. Research from Pro Bono Economics suggests that, in
2021-22, £60 million of public money was wasted on special
educational needs and disability tribunals brought by people who
had come forward with an assessment or not received one at all.
Had those tribunals not responded to the request or rejected
them, they could have financed around 9,960 places in SEN units
in mainstream schools each year with the money wasted. Even when
people get an assessment, many have to go to tribunals to get the
support that their child desperately needs.
Ofsted, the schools inspectorate for England, describes what good
safeguarding in an education setting should look like:
“It is about the culture a school creates to keep its pupils safe
so that they can benefit fully … A positive and open safeguarding
culture puts pupils’ interests first. Everyone who works with
children is vigilant in identifying risks and reporting concerns.
It is also about working openly and transparently with parents,
local authorities and other stakeholders to protect pupils from
serious harm, both online and offline and about taking prompt and
proportionate action”.
I, too, will make some comment, or place some interest, on the
question of gender. The Cass review, in particular, demonstrated
the shockingly disproportionate high number of autistic children
seen by the Tavistock and Portman gender identity service. I
emphasise this: 48% of referrals to that clinic had autistic
characteristics. Yet, in the course of its work, nobody
questioned why. What is going on here?
I am pleased to see that the Department of Health is addressing
the Cass review, and I am grateful to the Minister at the
Dispatch Box today for the time she has allowed me, in private,
to outline to her some of the similar problems experienced in
some state schools for autistic children, using information given
to me directly by the parents of those children. As I discussed
with my noble friend, particularly as far as girls are concerned,
parents have been blocked out from what has been going on in
schools and has affected their own children. These have included
things such as breast binding, initiated by teachers without the
parents’ knowledge; referral to doctors, who have prescribed
puberty blockers; and things such as changing pupils’ names. Some
of these issues have led to court cases. But we know that
pubescent teenage girls sometimes struggle with the changes in
their bodies and peer pressure to conform—how much more so for
autistic girls, who have found these complex issues so much more
difficult.
I will try to shed some light on this with a quote, from a post
on autism and gender identity written by Jane Galloway. She has
suggested that:
“With such a huge number of autistic girls identifying as trans,
whether that be as a boy or as non-binary (a feeling that they
identify as neither male or female, although they will
biologically be female or in rare cases, intersex) we have to ask
questions about why this is.
Growing up in a culture soaked by internet porn, in which women
are expected to conform to highly sexualised, performative
femininity, young girls are often facing impossible beauty
standards. They are seeing a world of toxic gender roles that
speak neither for nor to them”—
that also applies to young lesbians as well as autistic girls.
She goes on to say that
“the temptation to reject it outright … is overwhelming. Add in
the differentiated theory of mind”,
documented by Francesca Happé many years ago, which throws light
on the way the autistic mind works, and it is no wonder that,
for
“girls who are autistic … many of them will assume ‘Because I am
not this, I must … be that’”.
Perhaps that question should have been asked at the Tavistock
clinic. It is certainly a question that I hope we will ask in
education, as far as autistic girls in classrooms are concerned.
In the guidelines that are to come, I hope my noble friend will
be able to influence that.
1.50pm
(LD)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Jenkin, for her
“canter around the issues”, as she put it to me the other day. I
have always believed that there are very many ways of being human
and that we should bear that in mind when dealing with anyone who
travels a different path from our own and treat all with equal
respect. This applies to gender identity and sexuality as well as
every other characteristic. This principle underlies my reaction
to the issues raised by many in this debate.
When considering how to go about helping and protecting children
as they find their way through life, I always go back to the UN
Convention on the Rights of the Child and, of course, the “best
interests of the child” principle, enshrined in UK law thanks to
the noble Baroness, Lady Bottomley of Nettlestone.
I am quite surprised that I am the first person in this debate to
mention the convention. Relevant to this debate is recommendation
number 25 in the concluding observations published in June this
year by the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child in its latest
report on the UK’s compliance with the convention to which we are
signed up:
“Noting the decision taken by the State party to prevent the
implementation of the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill,
the Committee recommends that the State party recognize the right
to identity of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex
children and put in place measures to ensure that all adolescents
can enjoy their freedom of expression and respect for their
physical and psychological integrity, gender identity and
emerging autonomy. In this context, the State party should ensure
that any decisions regarding systems of gender recognition for
children are taken in close consultation with transgender
children and in line with children’s rights, including the right
to be heard and the right to identity, in accordance with their
evolving capacities, with free and informed consent and
appropriate safeguards.”
In the light of our long-standing commitment to the UN Convention
on the Rights of the Child, under which the committee evaluates
our compliance every five years, will the UK Government take
notice of that recommendation? It is relevant to how schools
respond when children express any kind of gender distress,
uncertainty or lack of conformity with others. It means that
schools must listen to children, consult them about how they wish
to live and, as far as possible, ensure they are treated in the
way that makes them feel most comfortable. When this is done, it
helps avoid distress and mental health problems in the
future.
The committee further recommended that we urgently address the
long waiting times faced by transgender and gender-questioning
children in accessing specialist healthcare services, including
for mental health, to improve the quality of such services and
ensure that the views of such children are taken into account in
all decisions affecting their treatment.
I will now use the opportunity of this debate to turn to a
fundamental safeguarding concern of mine, which is to ensure that
sexual abuse of children is never ignored or brushed under the
carpet. That can happen only when there is a legal duty to report
what is known or suspected—a deterrent from allowing fears of
reputational damage to make a person keep silent. When a child
has the courage to disclose sexual abuse, he or she just wants it
to stop. If that does not happen, the child, as well as
continuing to be abused, loses all trust in those in whom they
have confided.
In respect of this, I had great hopes of the Independent Inquiry
into Child Sexual Abuse, IICSA, and it has not disappointed.
However, when I look at the Government’s response, I do not
believe they have responded appropriately. IICSA’s recommendation
13, “Mandatory reporting”, says:
“The Inquiry recommends that the UK government and Welsh
Government introduce legislation which places certain
individuals—‘mandated reporters’—under a statutory duty to report
child sexual abuse where they: receive a disclosure of child
sexual abuse from a child or perpetrator; or witness a child
being sexually abused; or observe recognised indicators of child
sexual abuse.
The following persons should be designated ‘mandated reporters’:
any person working in regulated activity in relation to children
(under the Safeguarding and Vulnerable Groups Act 2006, as
amended); any person working in a position of trust (as defined
by the Sexual Offences Act 2003, as amended); and police
officers.
For the purposes of mandatory reporting, ‘child sexual abuse’
should be interpreted as any act that would be an offence under
the Sexual Offences Act 2003 where the alleged victim is a child
under the age of 18”.
There follow exceptions, which I will not go into.
IICSA then says:
“Where the child is under the age of 13, a report must always be
made. Reports should be made to either local authority children’s
social care or the police as soon as is practicable”.
Here is the crucial bit:
“It should be a criminal offence for mandated reporters to fail
to report child sexual abuse where they: are in receipt of a
disclosure of child sexual abuse from a child or perpetrator; or
witness a child being sexually abused”.
That is what I was hoping for.
Initially, the government response sounded hopeful. It said:
“We accept the need for mandatory reporting; the government has
agreed to implement a mandatory reporting regime for child sexual
abuse which will be informed by a full public consultation”.
It further says:
“We agree that implementing a new mandatory reporting duty could
improve the protection and safeguarding of children, as well as
holding to account those who fail in their responsibilities. A
successful reporting regime will ensure that the individuals and
organisations with a responsibility to safeguard children provide
a robust and consistent response to abuse, putting the needs of
children first”.
The consultation outcome was published in May and the Government
published their guidance, Keeping Children Safe in Education, in
September. Having read this guidance carefully, I would say that
it is, on the whole, excellent—well-written, clear and
comprehensive—but it lacks one thing and has one inconsistency,
which is crucial. I will come to that in a minute.
The guidance says:
“If staff have any concerns about a child’s welfare, they should
act on them immediately … follow their own organisation’s child
protection policy and speak to the designated safeguarding lead
(or deputy)”.
It then outlines the actions which can be taken, including making
a referral to statutory services. It tells staff what to do if
the DSL is not available, including
“speaking to a member of the senior leadership team and/or …
local authority children’s social care … Staff should not assume
a colleague, or another professional will take action and share
information that might be critical in keeping children safe”.
It gives criteria for that.
It then goes on to describe what local authorities should do. I
was pleased to read that it makes it clear that the Data
Protection Act 2018 and UK general data protection regulations do
not prevent the sharing of information for the purposes of
keeping children safe and promoting their welfare. It says:
“Fears about sharing information must not be allowed to stand in
the way of the need to safeguard and promote the welfare of
children.”
So far so excellent. However, I noted the difference between all
this advice and the section on female genital mutilation:
“Whilst all staff should speak to the designated safeguarding
lead (or a deputy) with regard to any concerns about female
genital mutilation (FGM), there is a specific legal duty on
teachers. If a teacher, in the course of their work in the
profession, discovers that an act of FGM appears to have been
carried out on a girl under the age of 18, the teacher must
report this to the police.”
In other words, it is against the law to fail to report that a
child has been physically mutilated, but it is not against the
law to fail to report or act on the knowledge or suspicion that a
child has been sexually abused—and that is much more widespread.
I wonder if the Minister can tell me: what is the difference?
2.01pm
(Lab)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady
Walmsley, and I associate myself with much of what she said,
including on the importance of the United Nations Convention on
the Rights of the Child. I would also like to congratulate the
noble Baroness, Lady Jenkin, on securing this debate on such an
important subject: safeguarding children in schools. Safeguarding
has a set of specific meanings regarding the protection of
children and vulnerable adults from abuse, neglect and harm.
Although I am no longer a working teacher—unlike the noble Lord,
, who made many excellent
points in his speech—I did do 35 years at the chalk face, so I
know a little bit about it.
The Times Educational Supplement recently identified seven key
safeguarding areas that schools should be concerned with now, as
mentioned earlier by the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton. On child
sexual abuse material, a recent report from the Internet Watch
Foundation found a 64% increase in reported webpages containing
confirmed child sexual abuse images in 2021 compared to 2020.
Almost seven out of 10 instances involved children aged 11 to 13,
and 97% of the images were of girls. It is absolutely vital that
everyone working with children is aware of the online risks, has
appropriate training and ensures that children have suitable
routes to support and reporting.
Next, there is child-on-child sexual violence and harassment. The
excellent organisation Girlguiding released figures in 2021
stating that two thirds of their members who were girls and young
women experienced sexual harassment in school. Schools should
maintain the attitude that such behaviours could already be
taking place, and foster environments where children feel safe
and empowered to report abuse.
Turning to extremism and radicalisation, the number of children
arrested in relation to terrorism offences has reached its
highest level since records began. According to the Home Office,
16% of arrests under the Terrorism Act 2000 in the year ending
2022 were of people aged under 18. Young people are particularly
vulnerable to radicalisation, and schools need to be aware of key
factors: social isolation, precarious emotional ties, and violent
peers. Labour have called on the Government to provide an update
to the counter-extremism strategy because it has not been updated
since 2015. Although the Prevent strategy has been updated, there
is a need for a wider counter-extremism strategy.
A growing issue, one that we have talked about many times in this
place, is domestic abuse. It has been reported that 62% of
children living with domestic abuse are directly harmed by the
perpetrator of the abuse, while one in five children has lived
with an adult perpetrating domestic abuse. By witnessing the
abuse of others, or by being harmed directly, children may
experience a wide range of severe and long-lasting effects. All
school staff must follow their school’s child protection policy
and contact the police if they suspect that a child is in
danger.
A term that has become increasingly used to describe safeguarding
issues but did not exist when I began my teaching career in
Brixton in the 1980s is “adverse childhood experiences”, usually
shortened now to the acronym ACEs. These include a range of
experiences, such as being the victim of abuse or neglect,
parental abandonment through separation or divorce, or having a
parent with a mental health condition. Several studies have shown
that if a person has experienced four or more ACEs, compared to
someone with none, they are more likely to experience poor health
and well-being into adulthood.
Another safeguarding issue is trauma, which can occur when a
child witnesses or experiences overwhelming negative events.
Developmental trauma includes children who are neglected, abused
or forced to live with family violence, or who experience high
parental conflict. It affects all aspects of a child’s
development, including the brain, body, emotions, memory,
relationships, learning and behaviour. Schools provide the
opportunity for children to experience safe and predictable
environments and to interact with staff and peers with kindness
and compassion.
Another issue that has grown hugely in the past decade,
particularly during and after the experiences of the pandemic, is
mental health issues in children and young people. In July 2021,
the NHS identified one in six children aged five to 16 as having
a probable mental health problem—an increase from one in nine in
2017 and equivalent to about five children in every classroom.
Schools should help children develop good relationships and build
resilience when dealing with setbacks, and all staff need to be
given training on common issues, including anxiety, low mood and
depression, self-harm and conduct disorders. The Government’s
education plans aim for mental health support for children in
only half of their schools, but Labour’s plan is to ensure
specialist mental health support in every school to stop problems
before they escalate.
Five years ago, the Government committed to producing guidance
for schools to support children who are questioning their gender.
There are a range of views about how best to support young
people, and we have heard them here today, but the clear
consensus is that guidance is needed, as mentioned by my noble
friend Lady Morris and, in fuller detail, by my noble friend
. I support many of his
comments, particularly his observations about his personal
experience, of which he spoke most movingly.
During the passage of the Schools Bill, which did not complete
its journey through the legislative process, one area that should
have made it into law was the provision of a home-school
register, a long overdue addition to the safeguarding measures.
During the passage of the Bill, I spoke about the increasing
number of children receiving an education outside the classroom
and how they could be missing out on the benefits a school
environment brings. Safeguards are vital in helping to make sure
children are not being taught in unsuitable or dangerous
environments. Allied to the register is the large numbers of
children who have not returned to school since the pandemic: last
year more than one in five children were persistently absent.
It was therefore quite disturbing to hear on Tuesday from a
Permanent Secretary in the Department for Education that Downing
Street blocked its legislating for a register of children not in
school. This Government have consistently failed to get them back
to school, even though every day of learning matters. It appears
that the block on this legislation came directly from No. 10,
despite cross-party support and a request from the DfE.
I can clearly state that the next Labour Government will
legislate to identify children out of school, and ensure that
families and schools get the support needed to guarantee an
excellent education for every child and seek to safeguard those
children and young people. We will bring an annual safeguarding
review in for schools in England, as concerns about children’s
safety and well-being are being missed due to infrequent Ofsted
inspections. There has been a promising, positive reaction to
this idea of annual safeguarding reviews and we will consult
closely with the education community. Safeguarding is the number
one priority of everyone in education.
2.10pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for
Education () (Con)
My Lords, I join other noble Lords in thanking my noble friend
Lady Jenkin of Kennington for securing this debate on the
importance of safeguarding in our schools. Your Lordships have
set me an impossible task in trying to address all of points
raised; anything I am unable to cover in the time available I
will follow up in writing. We have heard some very powerful and
reflective speeches from across this House, and I thank all noble
Lords who contributed to this important debate. As we heard,
safeguarding our children both inside and outside of school is
absolutely crucial. As the world evolves, so do the safeguarding
risks our children face, and the challenges our schools face
evolve with them.
As your Lordships are aware, all schools and colleges in England
must have regard to the statutory safeguarding guidance Keeping
Children Safe in Education. The guidance sets out the policies
and procedures that teachers and leaders should follow to protect
children while in school. Our schools and colleges are also part
of a wider framework of safeguarding that includes local
authorities, health and the police, each of whom have statutory
duties to safeguard and promote the welfare of children.
Safeguarding is everybody’s responsibility and everyone who comes
into contact with children and their families has a role to play
in identifying concerns, sharing information and taking prompt
action.
Given the focus of the debate, I start my remarks on issues
around the Government’s gender questioning guidance, but I aim to
cover some of the wider points raised. I particularly thank the
noble Baroness, Lady Morris, who I think was the first to raise
this subject, for her tone and reflections on how much has
improved over many years. I know she would agree that we owe a
lot to every teacher for their part in that.
A number of noble Lords raised the issue of schools supporting
the social transition of pupils who are questioning their gender,
including my noble friends , and Lord
Shinkwin—I was sorry to hear his remarks on the re-emergence of
discrimination towards disabled people. I also thank my noble
friend Lord Roberts for his historical perspective on these
issues. Obviously, how we respond to such requests is an
important safeguarding and welfare question. As your Lordships
pointed out, recent years have seen a large increase in children
seeking support. The number of children seeking medical support
for gender dysphoria was 20 times higher in 2022 than a decade
ago. Schools are not taking decisions about clinical support, of
course, but that does not mean that decisions about social
transition can be taken lightly. Actions such as changing names
and pronouns are serious and can have a wider impact.
The Cass review highlighted the importance of safeguarding,
stressing that social transition
“is not a neutral act”,
and that
“it may have significant effects on the child or young person in
terms of their psychological functioning”.
But the review also says that not supporting social transition is
also not a neutral act. There is not clear information on the
long-term effects. That is the background to the guidance that we
have been working on carefully and will be publishing for
consultation shortly. I am not going to pre-empt that publication
in this debate, but I can reassure noble Lords that the issues
raised today are very much being considered in its
development.
Safeguarding and welfare will be absolutely central to decisions
taken by schools, considering the implications for individuals
and for the wider school. In that context, biological sex is
vitally important. Single-sex spaces, as raised by my noble
friend Lady Eaton, need to be maintained; school sport, which was
touched on by my noble friends and , must be safe and fair. It
is also vital that parents should be engaged in decision-making
about their children. That is a principle at the heart of other
school processes, such as deciding on support for children with
special educational needs, and it is just as important here.
Parents are the ones who know their children and their wider
lives best. I have to disagree with the noble Baroness, Lady
Brinton, about keeping this information from parents, except in
absolutely exceptional circumstances.
I should also emphasise that we will be holding a consultation on
the guidance. While I am confident that we have considered the
issues raised, we really do want to gather a full range of views.
I hope that your Lordships and members of the public will respond
to let us know the extent to which it clarifies these issues for
schools because, as we heard from the noble Baroness, Lady
Morris, and others, there is a central point about having
certainty and clarity for teachers on how they should respond to
these very sensitive and difficult issues.
The noble Lord, , asked me to clarify that we
will not repeat the mistakes of the past. Just to be clear, the
guidance will aim to support and protect all pupils, including
those who are questioning their gender. One of the key principles
to have guided this work is that schools and colleges should be
respectful and tolerant places, where children are treated with
compassion and understanding, and where bullying is never
tolerated. But at the heart of this guidance is child safety and
well-being; as I mentioned, the interim Cass report confirmed
that we need better information about the long-term implications
of social transition, which is why the Government are advocating
a cautious approach.
My noble friend talked about the gap in
evidence in relation to girls with autism, and the noble Lord,
, asked that we would be
driven by verifiable evidence. One of the challenges in this area
is that there is insufficient evidence—I hope the noble Lord
would accept that—and even less uncontested evidence. It is
important that we work to fill that gap, but at the heart of the
guidance will be the best interests of the child and clarity for
teachers and other staff in schools about how to respond.
Going more broadly to the issues in the RSHE curriculum, noble
Lords have raised the issue of sharing those materials with
parents. We have brought forward the review of the RSHE
curriculum. As I think your Lordships know, we have appointed an
independent panel to advise the Secretary of State on the
introduction of age limits on teaching sensitive topics. The
Secretary of State wrote to all schools in October, clarifying
how they can share materials with parents while remaining within
copyright law. My noble friend raised this; I
would be delighted to meet him to discuss the complaints he has
been made aware of and how the department has responded.
He also mentioned that the School of Sexuality Education was a
contributor to the department’s guidance. Can he point me to that
reference? We have checked our list of expert contributors and it
does not appear to be on it. If he has evidence of that, clearly
I will happily take that away if he could write to me.
The Secretary of State’s letter also set out:
“The copyright act allows schools to copy resources
proportionately, for the purposes of explaining to parents what
is being taught”,
including
“via a ‘parent portal’ or … a presentation”.
The letter was also clear that, where parents cannot access the
parent portal or presentation,
“schools may provide copies of materials to parents to take home
on request, providing parents agree to a … statement that they
will not copy the content or share it further except as
authorised under copyright law”.
The points made in this letter will be reflected in the updated
statutory RSHE guidance, which schools will have a duty to have
regard to.
My noble friend Lady Jenkin asked about the timing of the
publication of the guidance and the consultation. We will be
consulting on it in the near future and expect the guidance to be
published in 2024, with the consultation being launched early in
the new year.
I turn to online safety in schools. My noble friend Lord
Leicester and the noble Baroness, Lady Wilcox, raised the issue
of children’s access to pornography, which obviously is a serious
concern, for all the reasons that your Lordships have set out
this afternoon. We have updated the Teaching Online Safety in
Schools non-statutory guidance this year, which covers how to
teach all aspects of internet safety, not just those relating to
relationships, sex and health.
Your Lordships will be aware that the Secretary of State has
committed to introducing a ban on mobile phones in schools. My
noble friend Lady Jenkin asked about the timing. We expect to
provide more information on that early in 2024 and, obviously and
importantly, the Online Safety Act takes a zero-tolerance
approach to the protection of children and will ensure that
platforms are held responsible for the content that they
host.
The noble Lord, , also raised the question of
whether schools would return to the days of Section 28. I can
reassure the noble Lord that that is absolutely not the case. The
RSHE guidance is clear that pupils should be taught LGBT content
at an age-appropriate point in their education and that they
should know about protected characteristics within the Equality
Act. However, we need to provide clarity for schools and colleges
and, importantly, reassurance for parents on the content that is
being taught.
I turn to mandatory reporting, which was raised by the noble
Baronesses, Lady Brinton and Lady Walmsley, I think there might
have been a slight confusion in relation to the Keeping Children
Safe in Educationguidance, which obviously has been published and
therefore predates the Government’s publication in relation to
the child sexual abuse mandatory reporting duty that we have
committed to introduce.
We have committed to working across government to consult on how
this will work in practice, sensitive to the wider impact of this
and burdens, and will work through whether action is needed at an
organisational or individual level, or indeed at both. In
developing our proposals, which we have consulted on, we looked
carefully at the experiences of other countries that have
mandatory reporting, including Australia and Canada, as the noble
Baroness, Lady Brinton, asked.
My noble friend Lady Jenkin and the noble Baroness, Lady Wilcox,
raised the very important issue of children’s mental health.
Obviously, that is a real priority and concern. We are investing
an additional £2.3 billion a year in NHS mental health services
by March 2024, which will help 345,000 more children and young
people to access mental health support. We are also committed to
supporting schools with our offer of senior mental health lead
training, which has already been accessed by over 14,000
settings.
Of course, the other side of mental health is resilience and
well-being and I will pick up on the comments of my noble friends
and about the importance of
sport and PE, and indeed wider extracurricular activities, in
building children’s and young people’s resilience.
I turn to the issues of extremism in relation to safeguarding
schools, raised by my noble friend and the noble Baroness, Lady
Uddin. The House may be aware that I and fellow Ministers have
had several discussions with faith and non-faith primary and
secondary school providers, particularly in relation to the
impact of the conflict between Israel and Hamas on both Muslim
and Jewish and other students in a range of settings. As a result
of these meetings, we have agreed to prioritise actions to tackle
inappropriate misinformation and disinformation about the
conflict, particularly on social media, and we will be issuing
guidance to teachers and schools on promoting tolerance and
addressing racism and anti-Semitism. We have also updated our
Educate Against Hate website, which provides resources and lesson
plans for schools to support them in holding these very sensitive
discussions.
My noble friend raised the issue of protests held in school
hours. The Government are absolutely clear that it is not
acceptable that children are not in school because of political
activism. I am aware, having spoken to head teachers, how much
pressure they are under from some parents, and indeed some
colleagues, to allow children out of school. I think it is very
important, as a Government, that we are clear that we support
them and that they are doing the right thing to make sure that
their children are in school.
The noble Baroness, Lady Uddin, raised some concerns about
Prevent. I can only disagree with the vast majority of what she
said. Prevent plays an important part in safeguarding. Going back
to the opening comments of the noble Baroness, Lady Morris, about
how far we have come, we are able to intervene much earlier,
which any parent of a child at risk of being drawn into extremist
ideologies, whether far right or otherwise, would be grateful
for. We feel that it is a really important plank and part of that
progress.
I want to say a word about attendance, raised by the noble Lord,
, and others. There is always
a competition to be the most important thing, but this is
certainly one of the most important things for us in the
department: partly because of the issue of safety—children are
safest when they are in school; partly because of the impact on
their education, and we are very grateful to the Children’s
Commissioner for her recent work on the impact on children’s
attainment of missing school; and also because we know that
children become invisible to all services when they are not in
school. School is such an important place.
It was genuinely moving to listen to the noble Lord, , talk about the care that
teachers take, spotting how children behave in the playground,
the corridor and the classroom, and that is where we need them to
be.
My noble friend asked me about whether we would consider schools
and academy trusts issuing fixed penalty notices for poor
attendance. Obviously, schools can ask local authorities to issue
those fines and local authorities have the legal responsibility
to do that. If my noble friend has examples where that is not
working well in practice, I would be happy to take those up.
I am out of time, but I will say quickly to the noble Lord,
, that we do support the
Children’s Commissioner’s recommendation of mandatory
participation in the attendance data; some 87% of schools send in
their data voluntarily. I thank my noble friend Lady Bottomley
for her incredible work on the Children Act, which has been such
an extraordinary influence in this country, and to share her
recognition of the work of social workers, health visitors and
teachers.
In closing, I thank again all noble Lords who spoke on this
debate and, on your Lordships’ behalf, all those who work in
schools, teachers in particular, for their work every hour, every
day, to keep our children safe.
2.31pm
(Con)
My Lords, we have had rather more than just a canter round these
issues. We have had some very powerful contributions from many
noble Lords, with a wide variety of focuses and expertise. Like
my noble friend the Minister, I was interested to hear from my
noble friend Lady Bottomley about the background and history of
the Children Act and the importance of consistency. We have all
mentioned the lived experience, as it is now called, at the
coalface, described by the noble Lord, . We are grateful to the noble
Baroness, Lady Morris, for bringing the importance of the
guidance for gender questioning, and to hear the response from
the Minister. She has covered all the issues: sports; single-sex
spaces; pornography; RHSE materials and parental access; the
understanding of autism—particularly of girls; sexual abuse; the
perspective of the noble Lord, Lord Roberts, as a historian; and
gender distress and how to deal with it in the school
environment. I am grateful to the noble Lord, , for advertising the debate
so widely on social media. We are all grateful to the Minister
for her typically thoughtful response to the debate.
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