Moved by Lord Benyon That the Grand Committee do consider the
Animal Welfare (Electronic Collars) (England) Regulations 2023.
Relevant document: 38th Report from the Secondary Legislation
Scrutiny Committee The Minister of State, Department for
Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Lord Benyon) (Con) My Lords,
these draft regulations were laid before the House on 27 April. The
purpose of the instrument is to promote the welfare of cats and
dogs by prohibiting...Request free
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Moved by
That the Grand Committee do consider the Animal Welfare
(Electronic Collars) (England) Regulations 2023.
Relevant document: 38th Report from the Secondary Legislation
Scrutiny Committee
The Minister of State, Department for Environment, Food and Rural
Affairs () (Con)
My Lords, these draft regulations were laid before the House on
27 April. The purpose of the instrument is to promote the welfare
of cats and dogs by prohibiting the use of electronic collars
capable of emitting an electric current when activated by a
handheld device. As noble Lords will be aware, animal welfare is
a devolved issue. Therefore, these regulations apply to England
only.
These collars are sometimes described as electric shock collars
or e-collars. The instrument will make it an offence for a person
to attach, or cause the attachment of, an e-collar to a cat or a
dog. It will also make it an offence for a person responsible for
a cat or dog that is wearing an e-collar to be in possession of a
remote control device designed or adapted for activating the
collar. This proportionate and targeted ban will not prevent the
continued use of other electronic collars which are not
associated with such harm and abuse. These include those that
emit a vibration or a spray, as well as invisible fencing or
containment systems.
This instrument fulfils a commitment given by the Government in
response to their 2018 consultation on electronic training
collars for cats and dogs in England. This commitment was
reiterated in Defra’s 2021 action plan for animal welfare.
Concerns about the capacity for e-collars to cause harm to cats
and dogs have consistently been raised with the Government. In
response, Defra commissioned research to understand the effect of
these devices on the welfare of domestic dogs. The research
showed that many owners do not read the manufacturer’s
instructions prior to use. It also showed that e-collars have a
negative impact on the welfare of some dogs, even when used in
compliance with the manufacturer’s instructions. E-collars may
also redirect aggression or generate anxiety-based behaviour,
worsening underlying problems.
In developing these regulations, we have listened carefully to a
range of views from pet owners and respondents and have consulted
key organisations, including animal welfare and dog owning
organisations, veterinary organisations, e-collar manufacturers,
dog trainers and behaviourists. We engaged with both those who
support the use of e-collars and those who do not.
I am aware of concerns raised by some colleagues regarding the
implications of these regulations on livestock worrying. I assure
noble Lords that very careful consideration was given to this
matter. My officials liaised closely with the National Police
Chiefs’ Council lead on livestock worrying, and with several
English police forces, as well as police from Wales. They noted
that the vast majority of livestock worrying cases involve dogs
that have escaped from the premises on which they are kept
without their owners knowing. These are cases that
hand-controlled e-collars could not have prevented. We therefore
maintain that owners keeping dogs in secure premises and ensuring
that they are kept on leads when walked in close proximity to
livestock is the most effective line of defence against dog
attacks of this nature.
We have also considered the impacts of the ban under the Equality
Act 2010. Most people who reported having a protected
characteristic, when responding to the 2018 consultation or
writing to the department since, noted that they relied on the
vibration function of e-collars, so the impact of the ban on
people with a protected characteristic will be minimal.
We consider that this instrument is an appropriate and measured
response to the welfare concerns raised and to the outcomes of
the Defra-commissioned research and public consultation. The
Scottish Animal Welfare Commission has also recently conducted
its own review. It concluded that e-collars should be banned for
any training purpose. The same conclusion was reached by other
nations that have already banned the use of these devices,
including Wales, Austria and Germany. However, the instrument
will allow His Majesty’s Armed Forces to continue to use
e-collars controlled by handheld devices where this is needed for
national security reasons. The Government recognise that some pet
owners and trainers have been using e-collars for some time. This
means that they will need time to retrain their pets to respond
to alternative training methods and devices. For this reason, we
have built in a transition period until 1 February next year,
when the ban will come into force. I beg to move.
(Lab)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his introduction. I
acknowledge his confident sign- posting of where the regulation
takes us. It is clearly a very welcome regulation; there are
millions of cat and dog owners who are hugely fond of their pets
and will, no doubt, greet the mention of electronic collars with
quite some repugnance. The Minister can be congratulated on his
regulation, which will surely be wholeheartedly greeted with no
little relief by many pet owners.
The regulations are securely rooted in the Animal Welfare Act
2006—perhaps a landmark Act of its kind. We should thank the
department for them. As a dog lover, and a dog owner at one time,
I recollect our late dog: a black lab, named Sweep. He was a
failed gun- dog and, for sure, he had neither courage nor
aggression. When we were burgled, I rather think he was the
welcoming group for that misdemeanour.
I have only a few brief questions. Mainly as a point of principle
and for the record, will the Minister expand a little on
paragraphs 4.1 and 4.2 of the Explanatory Memorandum? How did he
or his department consult the Senedd? It is a trifle delphic. It
is not sophistry, of course, but perhaps he might expand on those
paragraphs a little.
Further, paragraph 7.13 refers to His Majesty’s Armed Forces. How
will this operate? In what circumstances does the Minister
envisage paragraph 7.13 operating? One might presume that an MoD
dog with an electronic collar would be very obedient and might
even, if it is doing its work, in some circumstances cease to
worry a trespasser. One does not know, so perhaps the Minister
could indicate how that might work.
Paragraph 10.4 of the Explanatory Memorandum is about
consultation. Can the Minister give a brief summary—a précis—of
those involved? Maybe they are well-known national organisations,
and it may come easily to his memory whom he or his department
consulted. Again, I congratulate him on the regulations and a
helpful Explanatory Memorandum.
(Con)
I thank my noble friend the Minister for laying out these
regulations and the work that has gone into drawing them up. I
declare my interest as a vice-president of the National Sheep
Association. Of course, worrying by dogs is a major concern for
the industry. I have had sheep worried by family pets, and it is
very sad for all concerned because, at the moment, the only cure
for a dog that is worrying sheep is to have it put down. If a
dear family pet fails in this way, often people send it away
somewhere else, which does not really solve the situation.
Recently, the secretary of the NSA issued a statement that some
farmers in Wales are finding that they can train a dog not to
worry sheep by using electronic collars. It is not a question of
monitoring the collar but of training the dog. This could prevent
the putting down of healthy dogs. Has this been considered? The
collars are limited to shocks of about 5,000 volts, whereas
electric fences and so on can be about 35,000 volts, which
animals quickly come to recognise. This is an area where the
limits covered by this measure might have to be reconsidered.
The (Con)
My Lords, I declare my interest as a landowner and farmer. We
have a flock of sheep and, of course, I keep dogs. These days, it
seems that every public document states that it is
evidence-based, but too often the scientific research and the
evidence involved are pre-organised to produce a political
result—and so it is with this legislation, prepared by Defra.
Wales, a country with a great deal of sheep farming, banned
electronic dog collars a few years ago. A year after the ban,
Welsh farmers reported four times more dog attacks on sheep and
that they had needed to shoot three times as many dogs. At home,
in 2020, our flock lost five sheep to dog attacks and two in
2021. One was saved but was never the same again, and perhaps we
should have euthanised the poor thing when we found it. Last
year, we lost 23 sheep. I am not saying that this legislation
would have saved all those dogs, because clearly there is an
issue with responsible dog ownership. Most responsible dog owners
keep their dogs on leads. However, we are about to pass this
legislation. Defra understood that 500,000 electronic dog collars
were in operation in this country. The RSPCA’s 2021 figures for
cruelty to animals reported 1,094 killings of animals and 38,087
abandonments. How many e-collar incidents of cruelty were
reported? Zero.
I have had 15 dogs. I have had five generations of working
spaniels. In answer to the emotive speech by the noble Lord,
, about dog owners loving their
dogs, of course I love my dogs. The fifth generation of my
working spaniels is a batshit crazy spaniel. I am sure that noble
Lords with spaniels will agree with this. I try to love him.
Well, I do love him. For Christmas, he got an e-collar. The first
thing that I did was use the “vibrate” button on him, but in
worst-case scenarios I use the “shock” button. I am lucky that
the Government are allowing me a transition period to February
2024; I am certain he will be a brilliant dog by then. He wants
to do a good job but he is a lively animal.
What will happen after February 2024 to the 500,000 people in
this country who own an electronic dog collar? This legislation
says that they will be subject to unlimited fines. I know about
this, so I will have to destroy my electronic dog collar and put
it in the bin, but what will happen to someone found with one who
is unaware of this legislation? What sort of fine will they
get?
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I turn to the policy background on this. The Explanatory
Memorandum says at paragraph 7.2:
“The Government’s decision was based on the concern”—
I suggest that concern is supposition—
“that electric shock collars can be all too easily”—
“can” is again supposition; it is not evidence based—
“be open to abuse and can be harmful for animal welfare, and as
there was a lack of evidence of the capacity for electronic shock
collars to correct unwanted behaviour without also impacting the
animal’s welfare”.
I suggest that there is no scientific evidence because research
has not been carried out. This is well-meaning legislation but it
is ill thought through and will lead to more animals,
specifically sheep, being killed and more dogs being put down
prematurely.
(Con)
I support the remarks of my noble friends who spoke about the use
of collars in livestock, but I will ask my noble friend the
Minister a brief question. Why has the department provided an
exemption for the use of e-collars by the Armed Forces? What was
the basis for that? It would be helpful and interesting to have
sight of the internal animal welfare standards and permissions of
the Armed Forces if they are available.
of Hardington Mandeville
(LD)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his introduction to the SI. He
will be pleased to know that I am happy with it and have only a
couple of points to make.
In contrast to the previous SI, this one seeks to protect animals
from harm and amends the Animal Welfare Act 2006. Once
implemented, it will ban the use of handheld devices and prohibit
the use of electric shock collars. Anyone found guilty of using a
handheld device will be subject to unlimited fines. This is quite
clearly a good thing.
Defra conducted a public consultation in 2018. Most respondents
supported a ban on all types of electronic training collar but
some were in favour of retaining the ability to use them provided
they did not deliver an electric shock. Animals quickly learn
from these devices and they are useful in keeping animals safe
near busy roads by keeping them contained in a restricted area.
There is also an opportunity for their use in preventing dogs
escaping and chasing livestock, as we have heard. Sheep worrying
is a very serious matter—
The (Con)
Might I suggest that the seven-week public consultation in 2018
received 6,700 responses, of which 64% opposed making it an
offence to attach an e-collar to a cat or a dog and 63% opposed
making it an offence to be responsible for a cat or a dog who had
an e-collar?
of Hardington Mandeville
(LD)
I thank the noble Earl for his correction. However, I was going
on the information that I had received in the SI.
As I was saying, sheep worrying is a very serious matter and one
where every effort should be made to prevent it happening.
I welcome the consultation but wonder why it has taken so long
since its completion in 2018—five years ago—to bring forward the
SI. In the intervening period, many dogs will have suffered
electric shock treatment, which could have been prevented.
It is useful to make a distinction between domestic dogs and
working dogs. I would support that.
There is a great difference in the way the two systems work.
Collars that make a sound or vibrate are not prohibited under
this SI. Paragraph 7.12 of the Explanatory Memorandum is very
clear on that. It says:
“As electronic training collars that emit sound, vibration or
some other non-shock signals are not prohibited under this
instrument, they will remain available for situations where
voice, sound or other recall methods cannot be used”.
An electric shock is a form of punishment for a dog or a cat,
whereas the other system is a more humane way of encouraging
domestic animals to adopt a different behaviour. I have seen some
of the comments made in response to the consultation, including
from those who believe that dogs will go on killing if electric
shock collars are banned—the noble Earl, Lord Leicester, seems to
indicate that this will be the case. This is the response, I
believe, of the farmer and the shepherd, and some weight should
be attached to that response. A collar that provides an electric
shock is the tool—certainly in a domestic situation—of the
uncaring. A better option is for a collar that emits a sound or a
vibration.
The noble Lord, , raised an important point about
the Armed Forces, and I am very interested in the Minister’s
response.
From my point of view, this SI is long overdue in preventing
unnecessary suffering endured by dogs and cats. I fully support
the ban and the measures contained in the SI; there are
exclusions, but I am happy with them.
(Lab)
My Lords, I was not intending to intervene in this short debate
but, through sitting here, I think I have something to contribute
as a sitting magistrate. I deal with dogs and dog owners in
magistrates’ courts in London, and a number of times I have put
in place what are effectively dog death sentences for those that
have misbehaved. Before one gets to that stage, of course, one
would have mandatory chipping and neutering of animals, but
sometimes they continue to attack people or other dogs.
It is a very interesting debate, but I have just one specific
question for the Minister. We have heard about the unlimited
fines on the owner if there is no compliance with these
regulations, but can I check that there is no change in the
powers of the courts when they are dealing with the dogs
themselves as a result of this statutory instrument?
(Lab)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow my noble friend Lord
Ponsonby. This SI is a necessary piece of legislation and His
Majesty’s Opposition will support it. Many of us have and have
had wonderful family pets who are and were central to our family
life. I come from a family of dog owners, having had an Alsatian
and a crazy—maybe not batshit—springer spaniel as cherished
childhood pets. I cannot imagine why anyone would wish to use an
electronic shock collar for training, rather than treats.
A 2019 study carried out by the University of Lincoln found that
electric shock collars compromised a dog’s well-being, even when
used by professional e-collar trainers. They were also found to
be no more effective than training using positive reinforcement
methods. This is far from the only evidence that collars cause
harm to animals. We therefore strongly welcome the introduction
of this SI.
Given that the consultation took place in 2018 and featured in
the 2021 action plan for animal welfare, why has it taken the
extra time to bring the measure forward? As acknowledged in the
Explanatory Memorandum and by the Minister, the Welsh Government
acted on this back in 2010. Can the Minister inform the Committee
why we are legislating 13 years later? Do our colleagues in Wales
care more about corgis than this Government care about
bulldogs?
We welcome the decision to include an exemption—outlined in
paragraph 7.12 of the EM—for those with protected
characteristics. This will help those who have a legitimate need
for collars that emit sound, vibration or other non-shock
signals, whether for the owner’s benefit or the animal’s. After
all, Labradors, golden retrievers and German shepherd dogs are so
valuable for those of our citizens who are dependent on service
dogs. It would be an anathema to them that anyone would seek to
train their support dogs via shock treatment.
We also note the exemption on the use of electronic collars for
the Armed Forces, where this is required for defence purposes.
The Minister knows that we share a keen interest on issues
pertaining to our Armed Forces. Does he have any estimate of how
many dogs this is likely to affect and which breeds, and is he
personally satisfied that the Armed Forces’ animal welfare
standards are robust in this area?
The Kennel Club is campaigning for the same measures to be
introduced in Scotland. Its chief executive, Mark Beazley, was
quoted in the Independent as saying:
“More action is urgently needed in Scotland, where regulations
are needed to replace the ineffective guidance currently in
place, and we will not rest until we see the complete ban on
these devices that cause suffering and harm”.
What discussions, if any, has Defra had with Scottish
counterparts?
We all have a favourite breed of dog, whether that is a Labrador
retriever, a Border collie or a cockapoo. There are more than 13
million pet dogs in the UK. Their owners will expect us to do
everything we can to protect their pets from harm, which is why
we are supporting this SI. After all, who could countenance the
image of a cocker spaniel, a Jack Russell or a labradoodle being
subject to electric shock treatment?
(Con)
I am grateful to noble Lords for their important contributions to
the debate. This instrument will deliver on another commitment
made in the Government’s action plan for animal welfare. As a
nation of animal lovers, we are united in our commitment to do
what is best for the welfare of our pets. Protecting them from
unnecessary suffering is an important step towards that goal.
Almost unique in any animal welfare debate, I think, has been the
absence of a response I get to almost any measure we bring in,
which is, “That is all very well, but—”. Usually, people want you
to go further. I have been to enough animal welfare events and
debates in this and the other place where people always want
more. But we hope that we have introduced something that is
proportionate, addresses the concerns of animal welfare
organisations—I will come on to talk about who we consulted—and
reflects the need for this.
Several noble Lords asked about our exemption for the Armed
Forces. They are right: this instrument includes an exemption for
His Majesty’s Armed Forces where required for defence purposes.
This is a specific and limited exemption to ensure that important
national security and public safety capabilities are retained.
The use of an e-collar in such circumstances would be subject to
the internal Ministry of Defence animal welfare standards and
permissions. I say to my noble friend Lady McIntosh that it is
entirely legitimate that she puts that question to Ministry of
Defence Ministers. They have very high standards for animal
welfare right across the Armed Forces. There is an exemption
here, for reasons of a specialist nature, for certain uses of
dogs. I will not go into any more detail, but I assure the
Committee that I have been convinced by the evidence I have heard
on that matter.
The noble Lord, , asked who Defra engaged with in
drawing up the ban. We ran a public consultation on proposals for
a ban in 2018. A total of 7,334 responses was received, including
approximately 6,000 from members of the public. The remaining
responses were from organisations or individuals involved in
fields relevant to electronic training collars, dog trainers or
vets. Animal welfare groups support the ban, as do veterinary
surgeons, the training sector and assistance dog charities. In
the way that the data was compiled, an individual’s responded was
counted as one and an organisation’s was also counted as one, but
those organisations may have reflected the views of many
hundreds, possibly even thousands, of members. It may be not
quite right to talk about it in terms of percentages. Of course,
animal welfare is a devolved matter and we engage closely with
the devolved Administrations on a range of issues, including this
policy.
A number of people have raised the issue of the increase in sheep
worrying in Wales subsequent to the ban. I investigated this
closely in the lead-up to our debate on this statutory
instrument. It is clear that, across police forces, there has
been increased activity and an increased determination to work
with both the public and farmers to report sheep worrying events;
that may be the reason why we have heard of more cases. Sheep
worrying is a disgusting thing to witness. I have had livestock
killed and injured by dog worrying. This Government have taken
immense pains to try to limit these sorts of activities. We will
continue to work with others to make sure that we limit the
number of livestock worrying incidents and dog attacks.
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Very careful consideration was given to the potential unintended
consequences of these regulations. We liaised with the National
Police Chiefs’ Council lead on livestock worrying and several
English police forces. They report that the vast majority of
livestock worrying cases involve dogs that have escaped from the
premises in which they are kept without their owners knowing. One
police force reported that in 70% of such cases, no one in
control of the dog was close by.
The police were also clear that they would not recommend the use
of e-collars to prevent instances of livestock worrying. As I
said earlier, we therefore consider that keeping dogs on leads
around livestock and securing dog enclosures are the best
measures. This aligns with the advice provided in the Countryside
Code, which has just been updated and is supported by landowners,
and the views of the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission, which
recently reported on this issue.
The noble Duke, the , mentioned electric fences
being used to deter livestock from crossing a boundary. They
deliver a shock directly to the body and are of course different
to e-collars. The use of electric fences in agricultural settings
is subject to statutory guidance, which requires anyone
installing an electric fence to ensure that it is designed,
constructed, used and maintained properly so that, when animals
touch it, they feel only slight discomfort. I can assure noble
Lords that I have touched enough electric fences in my lifetime
to know that they give quite a belt, but they are within
regulatory parameters.
Last year, the Animal Welfare Committee prepared an opinion on
the welfare implications of virtual fencing systems for
livestock—something that could transform our nature conservation
and agriculture use, particularly in the uplands. It found that
the use of these systems could offer several potential welfare
advantages over conventional electric fencing, such as
improvements to livestock nutrition, health and welfare, as well
as benefits for the land being grazed.
A question was asked about the evidence on which we based our
decision. Concerns that e-collars can cause long-term harm have
been raised by a number of trainers, behaviourists and
dog-keeping organisations, as well as the animal welfare sector.
Defra-commissioned research revealed that many shock collar users
were not using them properly and in compliance with the
manufacturer’s instructions. The research was commissioned in
line with the standard processes for the tendering and
consideration of bids and in accordance with the rules on
government procurement exercises. Data from the research was
published separately in two different reputable scientific
journals, which required additional independent peer-review
exercises involving scrutiny from experts in the same field prior
to publication.
As well as being misused to inflict unnecessary harm, there is
also concern that, even when used in compliance with the
manufacturer’s instructions, shock collars can redirect
aggression or generate anxiety-based behaviour in pets, making
underlying behavioural and health problems worse. Further to that
point, the Government are satisfied that the processes for the
tendering and consideration of bids were carried out according to
the guidelines, and data from the research was published in two
separate reputable journals.
My noble friend Lord Leicester raised some really important
points. We will proactively raise awareness of the prohibition
and its scope in advance of 1 February 2024, when the regulations
come into effect. We intend to work closely with welfare
charities, the training sector and the veterinary profession to
reach as many owners as possible. We also intend to update the
Code of Practice for the Welfare of Dogs, which includes guidance
and reminders for owners about their responsibilities to provide
for the welfare needs of their animals; guidance on how to
minimise the adverse effects of containment systems by having
them installed by a professional and set up properly; and
guidance on ensuring that the owner is provided with training in
their use.
My noble friend will not have to throw away his electric collar:
he can put it in a glass case, which he can smash to retrieve the
collar if some future Government change the law. He will not be a
criminal for possessing it; he will be breaking the law if he
uses it. I want to be absolutely clear about that.
Organisational responses to the consultation counted as a single
response, as I said earlier. The offence applies mainly when a
collar is being used—a point I just made —or if a dog or cat is
wearing an electric collar and the owner or keeper is in
possession of a remote collar- control device which is connected
to the collar, so they look as if they are about to use it.
The noble Baroness made a good point about the time it has taken;
it has taken a long time. I think I first attended an event in
this building shortly after I was elected to the other place in
2005, and I remember a friend of mine in the House of Commons,
, putting an electric collar on
his neck to feel the impact. He invited me to do it and I
declined. I have four dogs: two whippets and two spaniels, one of
which entirely fits the description that my noble friend Lord
Leicester applied to his dog, but I am doing my best to change
its behaviour through other means than the one we are outlawing
today.
I conclude by thanking noble Lords for their contributions, and I
commend the regulations.
Motion agreed.
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