Wendy Chamberlain (North East Fife) (LD) I beg to move, That this
House has considered energy suppliers and consumer rights. It is an
honour to serve under your chairpersonship, Mr Hollobone. I am
pleased that we have time today—although I suspect that it might be
cut off and restarted—to debate this vital topic and hear from the
Government what they can do to assist our constituents. I
acknowledge the Members who are here. I thank the Minister for
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(North East Fife)
(LD)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered energy suppliers and consumer
rights.
It is an honour to serve under your chairpersonship, Mr
Hollobone. I am pleased that we have time today—although I
suspect that it might be cut off and restarted—to debate this
vital topic and hear from the Government what they can do to
assist our constituents. I acknowledge the Members who are here.
I thank the Minister for reaching out to me before today in the
spirit of co-operation, and I hope we can make productive use of
the time.
If there is one thing that should always have been clear—if it is
was not before this winter, it absolutely is now—it is that being
an energy consumer is not optional. People who are off grid are
hugely in the minority—the Minister will probably be relieved to
know that I do not intend to talk about them and delays to fuel
payments today. But for most people—millions of people—in the UK,
the only way to heat their home, have light at night and keep
their food fresh is to be a consumer via an energy company. We
have learned in the past year that many energy companies are
simply failing those consumers, and there is shockingly little by
way of consumer rights in this area.
(Strangford) (DUP)
I commend the hon. Lady for bringing this debate forward. In
Northern Ireland, we have only two gas suppliers—there should be
more. If there are more, there is competition, and if there is
competition, prices come down. Does she agree that competition
ensures that our constituents get better value?
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. This is a
30-minute debate, so we will not get a speech from him. I agree
that consumers need choice. Until this winter, many Members
probably did not know the differences between the energy markets
in Northern Ireland and other parts of the UK.
I came to this issue largely through casework. I saw a puzzling
trend of constituents seemingly being overcharged and struggling
to find redress, so we started asking people more widely about
their experiences with their energy companies, and that really
brought the cases rolling in. The issue is obviously not limited
to my constituency of North East Fife; indeed, it would be
strange if it was.
(Oxford West and Abingdon)
(LD)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this incredibly
important debate. It is certainly not just in her constituency;
it is everywhere. I have a constituent called Jacqueline, who is
a pensioner and fell into debt of £140 with OVO Energy, which
sent round bailiffs. She broke down in tears and gave them a
cheque there and then. Actually, the company was not reading her
meter, and she is now £2,500 in debt. She is on a state pension,
so she does not know what to do. That kind of callous behaviour
by energy companies should not be tolerated. We must do something
about it.
That is not dissimilar to some of the cases I have seen in North
East Fife. It seems to be that if we speak to a different person
at the end of the phone at a different time, we get a completely
different outcome. That is simply not acceptable.
Citizens Advice has said that there was a 230% increase in energy
complaints to its Extra Help Unit this winter. For the first
time, that has made energy the top advice issue. This is not
confined to Oxford West and Abingdon or North East Fife; it is
taking place throughout the UK.
(Central Suffolk and North Ipswich) (Con)
There is also a broader issue with the Government energy rebate
during the winter period. People who live in park homes receive
the energy rebate at the behest of the park home owner—they do
not get a direct energy rebate from the energy company—but they
are still potentially liable to the energy company. What would
the hon. Lady suggest that the Minister do to ensure that park
home residents receive the benefit of the energy rebates that the
Government have made available, and to ensure that energy
companies and park home owners are held accountable so that the
energy rebates go to the residents of the park homes?
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I, too, have
park homes in my constituency, and that issue has come up. At the
moment, we are completely dependent on the good will and good
conduct of park home owners when it comes to ensuring that those
living in park homes get their rebates. We need to consider the
legislative agenda. The Energy Bill, which I will come to, had
its First Reading in the House today and we should certainly be
thinking about that.
What I am trying to say is that contacting an MP has sometimes
become the only route for constituents who seek redress; as
constituency MPs, we all know that. That is widespread. We can
see that something in the system is failing, which is why I
secured this debate. The Government have a role in consumer
protection and the energy market. Just today, two new Bills have
been introduced to the House: one, the Digital Markets,
Competition and Consumers Bill, is explicitly about consumer
rights, and the other is the Energy Bill. Both are about making
our system fit for the future. Over the last year, we have seen
that the Government have a role in ensuring that the energy
market is working for consumers and that people can afford to pay
their bills.
I would like to outline some of the problems that my constituents
have been having before I return to the question of consumer
rights. Overcharging has already been mentioned. A quarter of all
the correspondence that I have received has been about that,
which suggests that a huge number of people in the
country—thousands, if not hundreds of thousands—must have the
same issue. We know that energy bills have gone up and that there
has been action to help people cope, but this issue is not about
that. It is about energy companies billing families huge sums of
money for energy that they have not used and about families doing
their best to manage the cost of living—keeping costs down,
putting food on the table and keeping afloat—and finding
themselves facing debts of hundreds of pounds.
The overcharging comes in two forms, and both are deeply harmful.
Imagine that you are a direct debit customer who pays bills
monthly, accruing credit on your account. Those payments might
have gone up when you renewed your contract last year, but that
is fine because you planned for it. You budgeted. It has been
difficult, but you made it work because that is what we all have
to do. You have done your best to reduce your energy usage to
make sure you did not end the year in debt. You have done
everything that you reasonably can—[Interruption.]
(in the Chair)
Order. A Division has been called in the House. The sitting will
adjourn until 4.22 pm if there is one vote and 4.32 pm if there
are two votes.
4.07pm
Sitting suspended for Divisions in the House.
4.32pm
On resuming—
(in the Chair)
The hon. Member has already had seven minutes, so the debate can
last until 4.55 pm.
I will move on quickly. I was outlining some of the issues with
direct debits and giving the example of someone paying by direct
debit whose payments may have gone up, but who was basically
managing. But imagine if, despite that, their energy provider
increased their direct debit payments, without their knowledge or
any discussion about it, and they only found out because their
carefully arranged budget was no longer in balance—they did
everything right and were suddenly in debt anyway.
That is what is happening to people. I have seen a number of
cases in North East Fife. One of my constituents had £900 in
credit, yet their energy supplier is taking more. This surely is
not right, and it is surely not the kind of practice we would
accept. I urge the Minister to call this behaviour out and take
proactive steps to prevent it from happening to other families
and individuals.
The second form of overcharging is arguably even more egregious.
This is where customers are receiving bills from energy companies
for energy they have not used. Again, we are talking about
hundreds of pounds being demanded, with threats of enforcement
measures and huge amounts of distress as a result. I pay tribute
to my casework team, who have been working these cases and
providing fantastic support to my constituents. They try to
understand what went wrong, but sometimes that is very difficult,
as people are dealing with an opaque system and too often being
told that their energy bill is final.
We have had some success in proving that bills are wrongly being
charged, but even then energy companies do not always just cancel
the bill. One of my constituents paid her £700 bill for fear of
enforcement measures, and not many people have that sort of money
just lying around. It is a stretch. Even now, the company has
repaid only £500, insisting that £200 sits in the account as
credit. That is £200 wrongly taken from my constituent that ought
to be paid back.
As for the causes of these issues, some of it comes down to,
arguably, predatory sales calls—lies are told and cooling-off
periods are not respected. Some of it seems to be errors in the
system, which when highlighted ought to be corrected, not
defended. A lot of it seems to come down to smart meter issues.
When they work, they are excellent, but when they do not, they
are simply terrible. I fear the Government are trying to run
before they can walk with the Energy Bill. They are pushing ahead
with the roll-out and encouraging more use of smart appliances
without getting the fundamentals right first.
Let us start with something basic: smart meters need to be
connected to either the internet or a data signal. My
constituency of North East Fife is rural. It is not as rural as
some places, but rural enough that many properties are still
without reliable internet access and there are mobile signal
blackholes. Smart meters simply do not work in those conditions,
but energy companies are too often refusing to listen. Another
one of my constituents strongly argued against having her
traditional meter replaced, knowing the signal issues at her
property. The energy company ignored her and did it anyway. What
a surprise: the smart meter does not work. Not only is she unable
to monitor her usage, but her company, E.ON, is now charging her
to reinstall the old-style meter.
Other constituents are able to have smart meters and, indeed,
want them to help to keep on top of their bills, but even when
the internet connection is good, smart meters still break. When
they break, energy companies do not seem to want to replace them.
One constituent’s meter stopped working last October and, despite
requesting one, has not had a replacement from SSE since. In the
meantime, she cannot monitor her usage and her company cannot
take readings. As a result, the company is taking larger and
larger sums from her bank account based on estimates.
Another constituent—a vulnerable pensioner—has been waiting five
months for a replacement gas meter. She was told that she could
go outside and read the old-style meter in the interim, but she
is disabled—she simply cannot do that. The list goes on, and the
longest waits for replacements that I am aware of are well over a
year—month after month of knowing that prices are going up and
not knowing how much it is costing, and energy companies erring
on the side of caution to their benefit, taking huge sums from
customers. Of course, all those problems are compounded when we
talk about vulnerable customers. I welcome the fact that Ofgem
has a vulnerability strategy; but again, from the casework I have
received, more clearly needs to be done.
I am aware of time and have not reached my main point yet, so I
will be brief. Two things come through in the casework. First,
billing is confusing for many people. Not only is it fair for
customers to understand their bills; it is better for the market
when consumers can compare bills and charges between different
energy companies, as the hon. Member for Strangford () alluded to. For that, I ask the Government to
consult with stakeholders and disabled people to look at putting
bills into a standard form. Secondly, priority service registers
are not working effectively. More needs to be done to make it
easy for vulnerable customers to identify themselves to energy
companies, and companies ought to be proactive in looking out for
those consumers. I am sure that all of us, as MPs, have
encouraged constituents to get on those lists.
The thread that links all these issues together—and the reason
why I am having to help constituents with energy issues, as I am
sure everyone else here too—is simply the utterly abysmal
customer service and the lack of clear consumer rights. Most
consumer-facing industries have some form of consumer charter or
code of practice. It exists in customer service and for aviation
passengers, for water consumers under Ofwat and in broadcasting
under Ofcom, but it does not exist when it comes to energy. What
is there is incredibly basic and not helpful for individuals at
all. Energy companies are regulated through Ofgem, and one of
their licence conditions is that consumers must be treated
fairly—that is it. That does not tell us anything. A Q&A
document from Ofgem sets out some situations where a customer
could be entitled to £30 compensation, such as when their smart
meter breaks and is not investigated within five working days.
Considering the sums of money being charged and the waiting times
for replacements, that is a completely ridiculous method of
enforcement and no incentive to companies to protect their
consumers.
I am not criticising Ofgem. Indeed, I welcome last week’s code of
practice relating to pre-payment meters and its plans to consult
on further standards. I am grateful that Ofgem spoke to me at
short notice on Friday. The new system operator being set up
under the Energy Bill will not help when it comes to consumer
rights. Its goals are controlling cost, moving to net zero and
ensuring our energy independence. These are all welcome, but
leave a gaping hole when it comes to basic rights and service.
Clearly, energy companies are falling far below any ordinary
standard of service to consumers, and the need to keep adequate
suppliers in the market means that Ofgem cannot threaten to take
licences away from all of them, because bad practice is simply
too widespread.
Does the Minister agree that energy consumers—that is, all of
us—should have the same rights as people taking a plane or
running their tap? Does she agree that the energy market can
function properly only when our consumers know their rights and
are empowered to enforce them? Does she agree that it is
unconscionable for energy companies to be treating their
consumers in the way they are today? I want every single issue
from my constituency sorted out, and I hope the Minister will
engage with that and the energy companies too, but we can be
proactive and solve the root cause. I am asking the Government to
consult on a new consumer rights charter for energy bills that
will be communicated widely and where good companies can be
accredited, and which will make our energy market work for
consumers as well as for responsible suppliers. I look forward to
hearing the Minister’s remarks.
4.40pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Energy Security
and Net Zero ()
It is a pleasure to be here under your stewardship, Mr Hollobone.
I congratulate the hon. Member for North East Fife () on securing this
incredibly important debate. We are going to get together to have
a further conversation, so I have listened with great interest to
all her comments.
I take the role of Minister for energy consumers and
affordability incredibly seriously. At least once a day I comment
on the fact that affordability is at the heart of all that we do.
It is vital to bring down energy bills and ensure that consumers
are protected. One of my key drivers is to ensure that the
vulnerable are not made more vulnerable. I regularly meet the
chief executive of market regulator Ofgem. I spoke to vulnerable
consumers at a summit yesterday, and continue to engage with lots
of stakeholders, including Citizens Advice, and other
suppliers.
The Government have made it clear to Ofgem that we expect it to
be robustly enforcing the rules aimed at ensuring that suppliers
treat their customers fairly. Suppliers should continually strive
to adopt and embed a customer-centric culture. That relates to
how suppliers behave, provide information and carry out customer
service processes. Ofgem’s guaranteed standards of performance
exist to ensure that suppliers provide automatic compensation
when domestic customers’ switches are delayed, when customers are
erroneously switched, when issuance of the final bill is delayed,
when there are missed or late appointments, or if a supplier does
not send an engineer who has the skills and experience to carry
out the planned work.
If a customer thinks their meter is not working properly, the
supplier should agree a timescale with the customer to complete
the work. If a supplier does not do what it said it would, it
should give the customers £30 compensation, as the hon. Member
mentioned. For prepayment meter faults, if the consumer cannot
get any electricity or gas, and they think the meter is faulty,
they should contact the supplier. The supplier should come round
and repair or replace it within three hours, or four hours on a
weekend or bank holiday.
If the consumer thinks their meter is faulty but the power supply
is still working, they should still contact their supplier, and
the supplier should arrange a future appointment within three or
four hours. If a supplier does not do what it said it would, it
should give the customer £30 compensation. Suppliers must pay £30
compensation to customers within 10 days of breaching an
individual guaranteed standard. If it fails to pay the customer
in time, it must pay an additional £30. I listened closely to
what the hon. Member said, and I know we will have further
discussions about the suitability of this arrangement.
Suppliers are required to submit complaints data to Ofgem on a
monthly and quarterly basis. Suppliers also publish domestic
complaints data on their websites, including the top five reasons
for complaints, and the measures they are taking to improve how
they handle customer complaints. If the customer remains unhappy
with the outcome of their complaint, they can approach the energy
ombudsman. Ombudsman Services is an independent body that
provides dispute resolution, and it is free for consumers.
Ombudsman Services can investigate and, where appropriate, oblige
the supplier to rectify the situation.
One area that needs to be improved relates to prepayment meters.
We all heard about the incredibly appalling practices that
occurred with the forced fitting of prepayment meters. The
Government have made their strong feelings clear on the issue. I
am glad that suppliers have now signed up to a more robust set of
standards. The new code of practice will help, but we still need
to ensure that we work together to deliver an energy market that
works for everyone.
Ofgem has acted to improve protection for vulnerable households,
increased scrutiny of supplier practices and introduced redress
where meters were wrongfully installed. We have been crystal
clear that fitting a prepayment meter by force for any customer
must be an absolute last resort, after all other options have
been completely exhausted. The Government will monitor the
behaviour of suppliers very closely and will not hesitate to
intervene if necessary.
On the issue of understanding energy bills, Ofgem has produced a
short video and short written guides for households. Suppliers
are required to maintain a telephone support line and to provide
an explanation of the customer’s bill in plain and intelligible
language. Again, I look forward to meeting the hon. Member to
discuss that further and to discuss whether there are more things
that we should and could be doing. There are resources such as
Citizens Advice’s big energy saving network, which is a network
of trained advisers who help people to understand energy use in
the home and how to get the support that they are entitled
to.
I thank the hon. Member for North East Fife for securing the
debate. I can reassure her and parliamentary colleagues that the
Government expect energy suppliers to provide good customer
service and to look after their vulnerable consumers. The
Secretary of State and I have made it clear that that is a top
priority for Government. As I mentioned, I meet regularly with
Ofgem and key stakeholders, such as Citizens Advice and the
ombudsman, to discuss the experiences of consumers and how they
can be improved. When suppliers are providing poor customer
service, they should expect customers to switch to a better
supplier. Although the market for switching for a better price is
only just restarting after the gas price crisis, some customers
have continued to switch to find better customer service. I look
forward to meeting with the hon. Lady to discuss these matters
further.
Question put and agreed to.
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