Mr Kevan Jones (North Durham) (Lab) I beg to move, That this House
has considered the mental health and wellbeing plan. It is a
pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Twigg. It is now 11
years since there was a major debate in Parliament on mental
illness, when I and many other hon. Members spoke about their own
experiences. That debate changed attitudes in this place towards
mental illness and wellbeing, and both the press and members of the
public have...Request free trial
(North Durham) (Lab)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the mental health and wellbeing
plan.
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Twigg.
It is now 11 years since there was a major debate in Parliament
on mental illness, when I and many other hon. Members spoke about
their own experiences. That debate changed attitudes in this
place towards mental illness and wellbeing, and both the press
and members of the public have made great strides in being able
to speak about mental health. We also now have members of the
royal family speaking about their own mental illness, and it is
heartening to see the Prince of Wales taking mental health and
wellbeing as one of their charity initiatives. Unfortunately,
however, there is still a lot of progress to be made in
delivering timely treatment, particularly prevention and early
intervention.
In England, the numbers speak for themselves. Around 1.7 million
people are in contact with mental health services, and according
to NHS England’s monthly statistic dashboard, 26,000 of them are
occupying hospital beds or have a hospital bed open to them. We
have also seen severe pressures on ambulance services and the
police due to people in mental health crisis asking for help.
However, according to the National Audit Office, there could be
around 8 million people with mental health needs that are not
currently being met by mental health services.
I am sure the Minister will tell us shortly that the Government
are delivering record levels of investment in mental health
services, but according to research by the Royal College of
Psychiatrists, almost a quarter of people are waiting more than
12 weeks for any form of treatment. Some 43% of mental health
patients say that longer waiting times make their conditions
worse, and 78% resort to attending A&E because they cannot
access services. I am sorry, but that is unacceptable. It shows
that despite the amount of money going into mental health—I would
argue that there needs to be more—much more needs to be done on
prevention. We need a joined-up approach across Government to
reduce the demand on services and to get people more timely
treatment and intervention.
That is why I welcomed the Government’s announcement of the
development of a cross-departmental 10-year mental health and
wellbeing plan last year, and it was also broadly welcomed by
everyone in the mental health sphere, including many charities.
It was launched with a great fanfare of publicity as a major
initiative by the Government, who said at the time of the launch
that
“now is the right time to think about bold, long-term actions to
build the mentally healthy society that we want to see in 10
years’ time.”
The then Health Secretary, the right hon. Member for Bromsgrove
(), said that
“our new 10-year plan will set an ambitious agenda for where we
want the mental health of our nation to be in a decade’s
time.”
Over 5,200 individuals, organisations and stakeholders responded
to the discussion paper. Charities such as Mind said that a truly
cross-Government plan will play a key role in making sure that
support for our mental health starts to rebuild, post pandemic,
to the same level as our physical health, so it was a bit of a
shock when the 10-year plan was quietly scrapped in January this
year. Instead, the Government say that mental health will be
addressed in their major conditions strategy. As I have already
stated, it is clear from the number of people requiring
interventions that mental health should be included in any such
strategy.
(York Central)
(Lab/Co-op)
My right hon. Friend is making an excellent speech, and I
completely concur with his concern. There is a challenge. We know
we are very interconnected beings, and our mental health and
physical health are joined up. If we do not provide the focus
required around mental health, it can get subsumed into other
priorities, with mental health not having its day, its funding or
real impact.
Mr Jones
Yes, but that is what was so good about the 10-year mental health
plan. That was going to do exactly what my hon. Friend suggests.
It was going to look at the interconnections between physical and
mental health, and some of the reasons it occurs in the first
place.
(Blaydon) (Lab)
My right hon. Friend mentioned the consultation and the
enthusiasm of the respondents. YoungMinds, a great organisation
dealing with young people’s mental health, had 14,000 young
people commenting as part of that consultation. Is he as
concerned as I am that their views will now be lost and that they
will be dispirited?
Mr Jones
I congratulate YoungMinds on its great work. It is disappointing
that many of those people will feel let down, that their
perfectly legitimate concerns around the mental health of young
people will not be taken into consideration in a broader
strategy. I will come on to that, but I would like to make some
progress.
The major conditions strategy covers cardiovascular disease,
including stroke, respiratory disease, musculoskeletal disorders,
dementia, and cancer. Those are some of the most challenging
areas that face the NHS. As my hon. Friend the Member for York
Central () just mentioned, much has
been said about parity of esteem between mental and physical
health. I am a passionate believer; I believe that the integrated
whole approach is right and should be our aim. However, a
co-ordinated approach does not simply scrap the plan for mental
health and wellbeing, if that means, as my hon. Friend the Member
for York Central just outlined, that those will not actually be
taken up or given the priority that they need.
If anything, trying to create change across a vast swathe of
health in one strategy could risk dealing with none of the
challenges that are faced in those different areas.
(Strangford) (DUP)
I commend the right hon. Gentleman for bringing this debate
forward. One of my concerns, which I suspect he has along with
others, is for those with eating disorders, which is clearly a
mental health and physical issue. Across the United Kingdom of
Great Britain and Northern Ireland, there are 700,000 young
people with eating disorders. That is not a core part of the
Government’s plan, but it needs to be. Does he agree that eating
disorders have to be key and core to any strategy addressing
mental health and physical health?
Mr Jones
As the hon. Gentleman knows, eating disorders can affect people
of any age, but there is a huge cohort that are young. I am
coming on to my concerns about particular emphasis on young
people’s mental health, which needs to be addressed.
(Shrewsbury and Atcham)
(Con)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Mr Jones
Give me two minutes to make some progress. There are two issues
that I want to highlight, which will fall through the cracks
without dedicated attention. That is tackling disparities, and
the mental health of children and young people, just raised by
the hon. Member for Strangford (). In the original plan for the 10-year strategy, the
Government spoke about tackling enhanced disparities. They
said:
“Addressing disparities will be a key aim across the whole of the
mental health plan—from prevention through to early intervention
and treatment.”
The right hon. Gentleman is talking about young people. We would
all concur that additional support for young people with mental
health issues is extremely important. Does he agree that
emotional intelligence support for young people is related to
this? Does he agree that more emotional intelligence should be
taught in schools, to help people through with their mental
wellbeing?
Mr Jones
Personally, I would not call it emotional intelligence; I would
call it emotional robustness and I will come on to say more about
that. However, the hon. Gentleman is right about the importance
of trying to make sure that young people are as robust as
possible in dealing with the situations that face them now in
modern life.
The discussion paper for the 10-year plan mentioned no fewer than
18 disparity factors relating to mental health, including
financial insecurity, discrimination, the criminal justice
system, poor quality of work or employment, living standards—the
list goes on. It is important to acknowledge those factors,
because the Government themselves said that they needed to be
addressed in mental health and wellbeing plan. Colleagues will
know that I have often been on the record saying that the way to
tackle mental health and wellbeing is to make sure that we
hardwire into Government policy consideration of mental health
and resilience across Departments. That is why I welcomed the
approach in the plan.
However, building consideration of mental health into a major
conditions strategy means that only one disparity factor is
likely to be taken into consideration, which is physical health.
Many other disparity factors, which are often complex, obviously
relate to people’s wellbeing, but I fear they will be sidelined
in the strategy.
Let us just take one of those other disparity factors, which is
financial insecurity. According to the Office for National
Statistics last autumn, around one in six adults experienced
moderate or severe depressive symptoms. That increased to one in
four for those who find it difficult to pay energy bills, or rent
or mortgage payments. And according to a YouGov poll for
Barnardo’s, almost a third of parents said that children’s mental
health has worsened during the cost of living crisis.
We know that the effect of wellbeing on health includes its
effect on mental health, which is substantial. This was such a
key priority for the Government that they outlined its importance
in their levelling-up agenda. The levelling up White Paper said
that
“wellbeing has a bearing on all four of the UK Government’s
objectives for levelling up”.
The 10-year plan discussion paper specifically said that
“a new plan for mental health is needed to deliver the
Government’s levelling up mission to narrow the gap in healthy
life expectancy between local areas”.
However, we now have no mental health 10-year plan, so where does
that leave those good words that were in the levelling up White
Paper?
We also need early intervention and prevention, which are so
important. We know for a fact that around 50% of mental health
conditions are established by the time that a child reaches the
age of 14 and 75% of them are established by the time someone is
24. However, it is estimated that 60% of children and young
people who have diagnosable mental health conditions currently do
not receive NHS care. I share the very valid concerns raised by
mental health charities and others that scrapping the 10-year
plan and merging mental health into the major conditions strategy
means that the people who will be at most risk will be children
and young people, who are less likely to have chronic physical
health conditions, but are most likely to benefit from early
intervention, for example counselling or psychotherapy.
I have spoken before about the importance of making sure that we
get children and young people’s mental health right. Rates of
probable mental health disorders in children aged between six and
16 have risen from 11.6% in 2017 to 18% in 2022. That equates to
one in six children aged between six and 16 having a probable
mental health condition. And as has already been mentioned,
700,000 children have accessed mental health services in the last
12 months.
The Government need to take on board the important point that
addressing the scale of mental health challenges in young people
will not just be about health and looking at that major
conditions strategy and how it interrelates with other health
conditions, but about looking at what society offers, such as the
education system, the digital community and so much more, which
put so much pressure on young people. Does my hon. Friend agree
that that is why we need this focus?
Mr Jones
That was the beauty of the 10-year plan; it was going to do
that.
Coming back to children’s and young people’s mental health,
referrals have increased according to the Children’s
Commissioner, but waiting times are growing and fewer children
are receiving treatment. We need universal access to counselling
for children, which we do not have at the moment. That is why I
support providing special mental health support in every school.
I stress that schools are not islands, separate from their
communities. We also need clear links between the support given
there and in the community.
I have already spoken about having a joined-up approach to mental
health, but there is another issue: to use a Bill Clinton quote,
“It’s the economy, stupid.” If media reports are correct, the
Chancellor will stand up later today to deliver what he is
calling a back-to-work Budget, but unless we take proper
joined-up action on mental health, any ambitions he announces
today will not be achieved. Adults with mental health conditions
are more likely to be out of work or in lower paid work. The
total annual cost to the Government is estimated to be between
£24 billion and £27 billion a year, and the overall loss to the
economy to be between £70 billion and £100 billion. That is money
people could contribute to our economy, so this is not just about
people’s wellbeing, but about ensuring the economy benefits from
good mental health and wellbeing.
England is the only nation in the UK that does not have a 10-year
plan. The Government’s current approach of scrapping the previous
10-year plan risks, as my hon. Friend the Member for York Central
said, sidelining mental health and short-changing future funding
and policy decisions. It shows the lack of a coherent focus and
risks losing the momentum that has been built over the past few
years in mental health and wellbeing. Whether it is tackling
disparities and the many complex drivers of mental health, or
pursuing prevention and early intervention in children’s mental
health, long-term planning is desperately needed in this sector.
I cannot understand why the Government have put this to one
side.
As I said last year to mark the 10th anniversary of speaking
about my own mental health in the House of Commons, we need a
dedicated public health strategy for dealing with mental health
and wellbeing. We need a mental health strategy that is
hard-wired into not just the Department of Health and Social
Care, but every single Department and into local government. When
the Government launched their paper for a dedicated 10-year plan
on mental health and wellbeing last year, they said to
“challenge us to be ambitious”.
I am urging the Minister today to be ambitious.
11.18am
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social
Care ()
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Twigg. I
thank the right hon. Member for North Durham (Mr Jones) for
bringing forward the debate and for all his work in this space.
He is absolutely right that mental health affects us all, and for
those who have a poor experience with mental health the impacts
can be life-changing. He is also right that debates in this place
have broken taboos and challenged stigmas around mental health,
and have helped with the national conversation about mental
health and why it is so important. In one sense, I violently
agree with all that he said. The difference is about how we get
to that place where we are looking at mental health, rather than
just mental illness, and treating people sooner when they need
help and support.
I believe that in the last 10 years we have seen a seismic shift
in the way that we look at mental health—a shift to parity with
physical health, and towards early intervention and community
support, rather than waiting for someone to reach a crisis and
then intervening. It has been a shift to look at mental health as
well as mental illness; the two are very different, but support
each other. If we get mental health right, we are much more
likely to deal better with mental illness. Parity between mental
health and physical health is why the major conditions strategy
has mental health in it.
Huge progress is being made. We have committed to funding
increases each year, from almost £11 billion in 2015 to £15
billion in the current financial year. Such a level of funding
has not been seen in mental health services before, and it is
making a difference. The additional £2.3 billion a year to
transform mental health services in England has the aim of
getting in as early as possible when people need help, and moving
to community mental health services as the first port of call for
people who need support.
I have seen in practice the difference that the funding and
change of emphasis are making. I recently visited Hammersmith and
Fulham Mental Health Unit, where community and in-patient mental
health teams are working together. If someone is struggling in
the community they get input from the in-patient setting, and,
when someone is an in-patient, the community team are making sure
they are getting the help and support they need for discharge. It
is working extremely well.
I have met with police chiefs and talked about the Humberside
model, which means that patients are not being taken to A&E
or police cells as a first point of refuge, but are instead seen
by community support teams. That frees up police time, and is a
better experience for patients to quickly receive more
appropriate care. That would not have been possible 10 years ago.
Of course, there is work to be done, and we get huge numbers of
patients who need services and want referrals, but a huge amount
of progress has been made.
We recently announced £150 million to support crisis centres in
local communities up and down England, so that someone who is not
well has easier access to teams and support. Up to 90 mental
health ambulances are being rolled out, which means that if
someone is going into crisis, it is a mental health support team
that responds to them, and not necessarily a paramedic, who would
normally be the first responder. That is making a difference,
keeping people out of hospital and making sure they are getting
the right support as quickly as possible.
The Minister will recall a conversation we had some time ago,
when I was very keen for her to meet a constituent of mine from
Shrewsbury who has a daughter experiencing mental health
problems. They are not happy with the level of service we receive
in Shropshire. I hope the Minister will commit to meet my
constituent.
I am happy to meet my hon. Friend’s constituent.
Record numbers of patients are coming forward, both through
referrals and via GPs. The consequence of breaking stigmas and
taboos and encouraging people to come forward early is that more
people want to use the system, so it is taking longer than we
would hope for them to be seen. The situation is the same in
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland; it is not just something
that England faces, which is why we are focused on increasing
funding and resources. We are recruiting 27,000 additional mental
health staff, and we are on track to deliver much of that in
terms of support staff that are already in place.
We are also putting mental health support teams in schools. There
are 287 mental health teams in place, covering 4,700 schools and
colleges. They are not only helping young people who are
struggling, but normalising mental health and making it as
important as physical health. We teach young people about their
physical health in schools—how to look after it and look for
signs and symptoms of concern—but we have not done that in the
past with mental health. Mental health support teams will
normalise the idea that mental health wellbeing is as important
as physical health wellbeing.
It is an achievement that in the major conditions strategy,
mental health is on a par with other major conditions in the
strategy. We cannot see patients just as people who have mental
health needs, or who are suffering with a mental health illness.
More than one in four patients who have mental health conditions
have two or more long-term conditions, and 30% of people with a
long-term physical health issue will also have a mental health
problem. We cannot treat problems in isolation—seeing the
individual as a cancer patient, a heart disease patient or a
mental health patient. People are complex and have multiple
issues.
By putting mental health in the major conditions strategy, we are
matching what NHS England is doing with its Core20PLUS5 strategy.
The right hon. Member for North Durham talked about inequalities.
That is exactly what Core20PLUS5 does: it looks at the 20% of the
population who are the most deprived and struggling the most with
all their health needs, both physical and mental, and drills down
into the five conditions that drive those inequalities, of which
mental health is one. The major conditions strategy will mirror
exactly what NHS England is doing.
Will the Minister comment on the 5,200 responses to the
discussion paper and the issue that was raised by my hon. Friend
the Member for Blaydon () about groups that fed into the
discussion paper? How will that work, and how will charities and
people in the sector be able to feed into the new strategy?
I am not one for reinventing the wheel. Consultation work has
been done, and we received a significant response. The hon.
Member for Blaydon is right to point out groups such as
YoungMinds, who will be in Parliament next week—I hope to meet
them to follow up discussions. We will publish the previous call
for evidence this spring, because we want to use that work to
navigate and develop the mental health part of the major
conditions strategy. This is not about undoing the work that was
done before; it is about including it with physical illness. Over
a third of people with severe symptoms of common mental health
disorders also report a chronic physical condition, compared with
a quarter of those with no or fewer symptoms of a common mental
health disorder. Physical and mental health are very much
interlinked, and to address one without the other would be to do
a disservice to those patients.
I am glad that the Minister has talked about parity of esteem,
but only 8.6% of the health budget is spent on mental health. I
hope that we will see a real uplift in funding for and investment
in people’s mental health. Will the Minister set out the timeline
for the publication of the strategy? It feels like the can is
being kicked down the road.
For the mental health perspective, which is the area that I work
on, we will publish the previous consultation responses this
spring—in the forthcoming weeks. That will feed into the
development of the mental health aspect of the major conditions
strategy, which we want to publish very soon. We also have the
suicide prevention strategy, which will be a stand-alone strategy
that will dovetail into that as well. There are record levels of
funding for mental health. I am sure that more will be required,
but it is not just about the amount of money; it is about how we
spend it. We want to deliver on mental health ambulances, crisis
centres and community support. We want to get in as early as
possible.
I hope that I have been able to reassure hon. and right hon.
Members that, just because this is not a standalone mental health
strategy, that does not mean that we are reducing elements of the
work that has gone before. It is so important to include it with
those other major conditions, which is exactly what NHS England
is doing with its Core20PLUS5 strategy to reduce inequalities. We
hope to do the same with our strategy.
Question put and agreed to.
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