Dame Caroline Dinenage (Gosport) (Con) I beg to move, That this
House has considered the matter of supporting UK artists and
culture. It is a huge pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Hollobone. The UK is an international cultural powerhouse. Our arts
and creative industries have the capacity to regenerate communities
and to drive global exports, and to put a boot up the backside of
our stagnant economy, but it feels like we have not always
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Dame (Gosport) (Con)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the matter of supporting UK
artists and culture.
It is a huge pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Hollobone. The UK is an international cultural powerhouse. Our
arts and creative industries have the capacity to regenerate
communities and to drive global exports, and to put a boot up the
backside of our stagnant economy, but it feels like we have not
always supported or nurtured our world-leading creative talent as
we should as a country, or understood our arts and culture as the
golden economic goose that it is.
Just look at what the sector currently contributes to the UK. Our
creative industries employ 2.1 million people and contribute £116
billion to our economy each year. UK exports were worth more than
£37.9 billion in 2019—12% of total UK service exports. The
creative industries also help shape the UK’s image around the
world. British musicians artists,
writers and actors command a global audience, while many of our
cultural beacons draw millions of visitors into the UK. As soft
power goes, there is simply nothing like it. That is why we must
never underestimate the potential of our arts and culture, and
the vital role of its people, the creators and performers, who
underpin this success story.
Globally, some modern emerging economies really get this. South
Korea’s creative industries have taken the world by storm, with
K-pop and drama, from “Parasite” to “Squid Game”, at the
forefront. What makes that even more remarkable is the fact that
the language is barely spoken outside of Korea. Just as South
Korea implemented industrial policy for the export of
electronics, cars and chemicals, it applied a policy approach to
develop its creative industries. In less than a generation, South
Korea transformed from being effectively a third-world country to
an industrial powerhouse and the world’s seventh largest cultural
player, with its creative cultural sector making nearly $11
billion in exports and supporting 700,000 jobs last year.
Meanwhile, dedicated music or creative industry export hubs have
been springing up in countries across Europe, funded by
Governments and industry keen to ride the wave of this growing
market. At a time when worldwide recorded music trade revenues
are set to double by 2030, British music exports could increase
to more than £1 billion by the end of the decade. That will
require a supportive policy environment that maximises UK export
potential against a backdrop of intensifying global
competition.
Funds such as the music export growth scheme will be crucial, but
we also need a hardcore strategy to underpin this. What do the
Government have in mind? Could they look again at the idea of
dedicated British music or creative industry export hubs to drive
this forward, because at the moment the support is simply not
good enough? A creative industries trade and investment board
website has had only three posts in the past 12 months, and the
Creative Industries Council has just one upcoming event over the
next 12 months advertised on its website.
By its very definition, this is an innovative and agile sector.
That was demonstrated during the pandemic in how some
organisations swiftly pivoted to using digital to ensure that the
band played on. One example is the Bournemouth Symphony
Orchestra, which responded to the first national lockdown in 2020
with an exclusive series of live concerts streamed online. During
the first six months of this series, it increased its audience by
almost 30%, with 65,000 views by audiences around the world. We
have digital innovation to thank for that.
Digital has completely transformed how people consume culture and
driven appetites for cultural works. A recent survey showed that
81% of people think that accessing cultural works through a
digital device is important to their daily lives. Despite this
shift, there has not been a corresponding benefit to artists,
many of whom operate as creative freelancers. That is why more
than three quarters of survey respondents support the Government
considering new ideas and initiatives to sustain the UK’s
creative industries.
The public understand and value our culture and our creative
talent. They also see the huge difference that culture can make
in their local neighbourhoods. Funding the arts delivers
investment in left-behind communities and aids economic
regeneration. There are no two ways about it. There is evidence
right across the country. For example, in Margate, thanks to the
legacy of local artists such as Tracey Emin, the Turner
Contemporary opened in 2011 and has contributed more than £70
million to the local economy in the last decade. This week, I
will be really pleased to attend the reopening of Gosport
Gallery, part of Hampshire Cultural Trust. That was a massive
regeneration project funded by high street heritage action zones.
We thank the Government so much for that investment, because it
is breathing new life into our beleaguered high streets.
There is no doubt that the Government recognise how arts and
culture can be a significant driver of levelling up, and I
welcome the recognition that redistributing some of the national
Arts Council spend away from London to the regions is a way to
achieve that. However, I am going to urge a little bit of caution
on the Minister: it needs to be done in a way that supports
investments in projects and organisations that can genuinely
start a snowball of growth, not as a tick-box exercise and
certainly not as tokenism.
Much as I would love to see English National Opera relocate to
Gosport, under the current proposals the out-of-London version
will receive significantly less funding than its current form, so
it will have to stop funding projects like ENO Breathe, its
game-changing response to long covid. That has been operating in
85 NHS trusts across the country, including my own. The current
proposal risks the work that the ENO has been doing with schools
across the country, and it could stop it being able to offer free
or discounted tickets to a younger audience. That work means that
one in seven of its attendees is now under the age of 35. In
fact, it risks the organisation becoming the opposite of what we
want and the opposite of what it is—it risks it becoming an elite
organisation for those who can afford to pay £300 for a ticket,
albeit one outside London.
(Barking) (Lab)
I am very pleased to rise under your chairship, Mr Hollobone. I
congratulate the hon. Member for Gosport (Dame ) on having secured this
debate. I should declare an interest, in that I chair Theatre
Royal Stratford East, in London. I wanted to come in on the issue
of English National Opera and the cut that will mean the closure
of an absolutely unique facility in London. Does the hon. Lady
agree that one cannot level up by destroying excellence? We have
to embrace excellence and ensure that it is enjoyed throughout
the country.
Will the hon. Lady also join me in congratulating the ENO on
partnering with Theatre Royal Stratford East to put on a
production of “Noye’s Fludde” by Britten? We engaged a lot of
young children from east London, who need as much levelling up as
those elsewhere in the country, and we managed to secure out of
that an Olivier award.
Dame
The right hon. Lady makes an excellent point. The ENO has been
groundbreaking in the way it has appealed to younger audiences
and reached out in partnerships. It has done TikTok videos seen
by hundreds of thousands of people. It has even done beatboxing
in a car park. It has done virtually more than anybody to bring
opera, which is often regarded as a bit of an elitist art form,
to the masses and to a newer, younger audience. It will be a
disaster if such organisations —not just the ENO—lose that unique
identifying factor in the move. I have nothing against driving
investment outside London, but we have to do that in a careful
way and not as some form of crazy tokenism. I therefore ask the
Minister to look again at giving the ENO more time and more
resources to deliver the appropriate change and to continue its
excellent work.
We also have to face the fact that we cannot rely exclusively on
public funds to support the creative industries; we need new
ideas. Funding and income streams across the UK remain a
massively pressing issue—the Minister will know this—with most
creators and performers earning less than the minimum wage. A
strong copyright framework is a key element. Freelance creators
and performers rely on royalties from the use of their
copyright-protected works in order to earn a living, but they are
currently not receiving fair remuneration when their works are
copied, stored and shared digitally. I therefore ask the Minister
to look at the Smart fund proposal to address that. It is
suggested that in the UK it could raise up to £300 million a year
for creators, performers and communities. Similar schemes already
operate in 45 other countries, generating almost £1 billion a
year globally. They do so by diverting a small percentage of the
sales of electronic devices, which copy, store and share creative
content, into a fund that is paid out to creators and local
community projects, with a focus on digital creativity and
skills.
The benefit of such a scheme is huge for creators. In France
alone, it raised over £250 million in 2021, supporting artists
and funding almost 12,000 cultural activities a year. Most
importantly, there is simply no evidence that when tariffs
change, device prices change, too. The potential for something
similar for communities in this country is huge, and I ask the
Minister to look at it. It is also supported by the Design and
Artists Copyright Society, the British Equity Collecting Society,
Directors UK, and the Authors’ Licensing and Collecting Society,
which represent over 330,000 creative workers between them. Will
the Minister meet representatives of the creative organisations
that support the Smart fund to discuss this issue?
Our artists and creatives have a unique power. They can lift
spirits and boost wellbeing, and they can regenerate communities
and promote levelling up. They can drive economic prosperity and
turbocharge global trade. No other sector can do all those
things. No other sector has such a strong track record of
delivering for the UK economy or so much future potential, so I
urge the Minister to leave no stone unturned in efforts to
harness that potential.
(in the Chair)
The debate can last until 5.30 pm. I am obliged to call the
Front-Bench spokespersons at no later than 5.7 pm, and the
guideline limits are five minutes for the Scottish National
party, five minutes for His Majesty’s Opposition and 10 minutes
for the Minister. Dame Caroline will then have three minutes to
sum up at the end.
Six Members are seeking to contribute. To get everybody in, we
will have to have a time limit of four minutes. I gently remind
right hon. and hon. Members that if you wish to speak in
Westminster Hall, you are meant to write to Mr Speaker in
advance, but I will endeavour to get everybody in. The first
speaker will be the House’s most distinguished musician, .
4.42pm
(Cardiff West) (Lab)
Thank you, Mr Hollobone. I was not expecting that and I am not
sure that it is true, either, but I am a member of the
Musicians’ Union, as you know. I declare that as
an interest, as well as my membership of PRS for Music,
Phonographic Performance Ltd and various other bodies. I
occasionally receive some payment for that work.
I thank the hon. Member for Gosport (Dame ) for securing the debate.
The Minister should listen to what she said, because she knows
what she is talking about. She was a distinguished Minister until
she was cast aside brutally, as happens in this place as soon as
somebody shows some gumption and knowledge of a subject. Her
expertise should therefore be of great value to the Minister, who
should listen to everything she said. I agree with pretty much
everything she said—I hope she is not too worried by that.
Obviously, I am the Member of Parliament for Cardiff West, and
the creative industries and arts are extremely important to the
city of Cardiff’s culture, but also to its economy. I want to
briefly mention five things in the four minutes that I have.
First, the “Let the Music Move” report was issued earlier this
year by the all-party parliamentary group on music. I sent a copy
to the Secretary of State and asked for her response, and I also
asked my office to contact her private office. I have still not
received a response, but I hope that she has read the report and
that the Minister will read it—I am happy to give him a copy. It
sets out how we can try to solve the issue of musicians touring in
Europe, accepting that we have gone through Brexit, which is not
the issue here. This is not about immigration, but about ensuring
that our great creative industries can flourish. I hope that the
Minister will read the report, and that the Secretary of State
has read it and will write back to me soon with her response to
my letter. If it has not been received, her office can let my
office know and I will send another copy.
Secondly, I wish to address the recent announcement made by Arts
Council England, which was also mentioned by the hon. Member for
Gosport. It is perfectly legitimate to seek to spread our
cultural wealth around the country; in fact, it is an essential
part of any effective arts policy. However, to announce, as Arts
Council England did, savage and sudden cuts to some of our great
cultural organisations is no way to do business. I hope that the
Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee, of which I am a
member, will talk to Arts Council England about that in the very
near future. I also remind Members that Welsh National Opera will
be affected by these cuts because it receives Arts Council
England funding for touring around England, meaning that it is
not necessary to have another opera company in places such as
Liverpool, Birmingham, Oxford and Southampton, which is closer to
the hon. Lady’s constituency.
Thirdly, I want to address the Government’s recent decision on
artificial intelligence. It was taken against all advice and, as
far as I know, nobody asked them to do it. It is partly the
Minister’s responsibility, but it also sits with the Department
for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy. Tech companies
already pay artists a pittance, but the Government are proposing
that they should now be given unrestricted access to the work
of musicians artists and
others to use AI to produce facsimiles of their work and not pay
them a single penny. It is a shocking decision, coming out of a
report by the Intellectual Property Office, and I hope that the
Minister will tell us that the Government will look at it again,
because it has caused absolute outrage among those who are
already trying to scrape a living out of intellectual property
from their artistic and creative endeavours.
I have two quick last points. We also need to fix streaming and
get artists paid better. Finally, UK Music is issuing its
diversity report this evening. I hope that the Minister will also
take note of that and read it.
4.46pm
(Bromley and Chislehurst)
(Con)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Hollobone.
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Gosport (Dame ) on securing this debate.
I agree with and endorse absolutely everything that she has said.
I will concentrate on English National Opera. I declare my
interest as chair of the APPG on opera.
Make no mistake: what the Arts Council is proposing is not the
relocation of English National Opera, but the killing of English
National Opera. It is, effectively, closure. It has acted in a
peremptory manner, with no consultation and a most questionable
evidence base. The extraordinary suggestion by its director of
music, of all people, that there was no growth in grand opera in
the UK has been flatly contradicted by people such as David
Buchler, a former member of the ENO board, who set out why that
is a false analysis in Opera Now magazine. The chairman of the
Arts Council praised the leadership of the ENO—under its chair,
Dr Harry Brünjes, and its chief executive officer, Stuart Murphy,
who is here today—as being outstanding. But their reward is to be
kicked in the proverbial, because, at the end of the day, it was
proposed on very short notice, with no consultation whatever,
that the company should be required, having lost a third of its
income, to move to an unspecified venue. Manchester was floated
as a venue, but nobody in Manchester was consulted. The venue in
Manchester was never looked at. In fact, it is not suitable for
unamplified performance, so opera simply cannot be done there.
The Mayor of Manchester knew nothing of it; Opera North, which
already operates in Manchester, knew nothing of it. It is wholly
unfeasible.
It is impossible to relocate an opera company over three years.
When Birmingham Royal Ballet was moved from London to Birmingham,
it took five years. It is impossible to anything in less. In any
event, moving English National Opera out of London would mean the
chorus, orchestra and technicians being made redundant. Three
hundred skilled, world-admired people would lose their jobs in
London, with no hope of replacing them in the provinces.
I hope that the Minister will take this away. It is all very well
to say that the Arts Council operates at arm’s length—yes, but
when it goes rogue and gets something seriously wrong, the
Minister is entitled to use his influence, as best he can, to
make it change its mind. Can we have this done outside the
context of a one-off peremptory decision, based on no evidence?
Let us have a proper strategic review of opera provision. Let us
ensure that the ENO receives a realistic level of funding over
the next four years or so, to keep the company in being, because
if it folds it will be lost forever.
The ENO is more than willing to look at doing more work outside
of London. That ought to be part of the discussion, but it cannot
do it on this basis. We ought to be looking at this on the basis
that it keeps a London base. It is able, and has already taken
steps, to rent out the London Coliseum to other companies to
produce musicals—“My Fair Lady” was a great success—and to bring
in income to cross-subsidise. It is doing the right thing and has
never had a more commercial or business-like approach. No doubt
it could negotiate with the Arts Council ways to take more
productions out into the provinces, which would be a good thing,
but that can be done only if the company is strong to start with.
This proposal would destroy the strong company and the provinces
would not be gainers, so I hope very much that the Arts Council
will think again. There is a sensible way forward, but it
requires the ENO and the Arts Council to sit down and talk.
The English National Opera has been the ground seed for British
operatic talent: virtually every notable leading British opera
singer and musician has started or had part of their early career
at the ENO. International stars still return to the ENO. It is
the only company that operates in English, it is accessible in
the vernacular and its audiences are more ethnically diverse than
those of any other company. Some 50% of the audience are
first-timers and one in seven is under 35.
If we want to grow opera, the English National Opera is the
company doing that. To kill it off, which is what the Arts
Council is doing, is an utter dereliction and complete
contradiction of what the Arts Council asserts it is trying to
do. Even within the arm’s length rules, it is time for the
Government to put pressure on the Arts Council to reflect and
think again.
4.51pm
(Camberwell and Peckham)
(Lab)
I apologise for not giving you advance notice that I wanted to
speak, Mr Hollobone. I thank the hon. Member for Gosport (Dame
) for securing the debate
and I join my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff West () in paying warm tribute to
the work she did as arts Minister. She is on the Back Benches at
the moment, but I am sure she will be on the Front Benches again.
In the meantime, she is doing very good work, so I pay warm
tribute to her.
With everybody incredibly anxious about what is going to happen
to energy bills, with food prices soaring and with the NHS and
public services struggling, it might seem an odd time to be
raising the issue of funding for the arts, but it is absolutely
right for us to do so. As well as helping drive our economy, as
the hon. Member for Gosport said, our culture and arts are
central to how we define ourselves individually and as a
nation.
We must not allow public policy to drive the cultural
impoverishment of this country, but unless the Government step in
to stop that or the Arts Council can be persuaded to think again,
that is exactly what is going to happen with the closure of the
English National Opera at the Coliseum. We cannot stand by while
the ENO, which is artistically excellent, economically vital and
culturally important, is closed and, with that, see the end of
the social engagement and widening access that is central to the
ENO’s mission.
The Arts Council has removed all funding from the ENO at the
Coliseum, meaning that, as the hon. Member for Bromley and
Chislehurst ( ) rightly said, 300 skilled
artists, dedicated professionals and other employees will be
thrown out of work. The Arts Council spin was that the ENO was to
be relocated as part of levelling up. The Guardian said that the
ENO
“is to relocate outside London”
and the BBC said:
“English National Opera to leave London as arts funding gets
levelled up”.
The briefing was that the ENO was going to Manchester—not only
was that a bolt out of the blue to the ENO, but it was the first
time Manchester had heard of it, and it was not what they wanted.
The Arts Council is closing the ENO with a tremendous cultural
loss and nothing to show for it up north.
What the Arts Council proposes to do is completely wrong, but the
way it has gone about it—with no consultation and, frankly,
misleading spin—is shameful. It should think again. Yes, times
have changed and times are hard, but difficult decisions should
be made carefully, not with a wrecking ball. I am backing the
ENO’s call for three things: a strategic review of opera as a
whole; that the Arts Council should agree realistic funds for the
ENO for a period of four years; and that the Arts Council should
agree a period of five years to consult on a new model, based on
the ENO retaining its Coliseum base but increasing still further
its fundraising and work outside London.
As has been said, the ENO has effective leadership; I pay tribute
to that and it is also fully acknowledged by the Arts Council. It
has a dedicated company of employees who deserve better than to
be thrown out of work in April next year. The ENO means a great
deal to many, as emails from my constituents can attest. I thank
all those who have contacted me and assure them that the ENO will
have my full support.
Surely Sir Nicholas Serota does not want his legacy to be the
closure of the ENO; if he goes ahead with the closure, that will
be the only thing everybody will remember about him and his
tenure at the Arts Council. The decision to close the ENO is
wrong, and the best thing to do with a wrong decision is to
change it. The Government have been quite active on that front in
the past, with U-turns here and there—this would be one U-turn
that would be universally welcomed. I welcome the Minister to his
role and I hope to hear in public, or even in private—whatever is
necessary—that he will step in, and that the ENO will not be
closed.
4.55pm
(Cities of London and
Westminster) (Con)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Hollobone.
I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Gosport (Dame ) for securing this
important and timely debate.
I am incredibly proud of the vibrant arts and culture offer of my
constituency, from the west end’s theatreland to iconic live
music venues such as Ronnie Scott’s, the 100 Club or Heaven, as
well as the Barbican centre, the Royal Albert Hall, the Royal
Opera House and the London Coliseum. According to the Office for
National Statistics, 8% of arts and culture businesses are based
in the Cities of London and Westminster—over 2,500 businesses. In
the time I have, I will pay particular attention to how we can
support arts and culture through an incredibly difficult
time.
When we look at how we can best support the future of the sector,
forward planning is key, especially post covid. Its importance
has been made clear to me throughout covid and more recently,
during the ongoing decisions on the future of the English
National Opera, which is based in my constituency. It is good to
see the ENO’s chief executive, Stuart Murphy, in the Public
Gallery.
Does the hon. Lady agree that there is a real misunderstanding
about how much money is invested in the arts in London? That
investment is brilliant, but there is a misunderstanding about
it. First, it includes national institutions such as the British
Museum, which should not be included. Secondly, the audience for
London entertainment comes from the south-east, and the
south-east gets hardly any money from Arts Council England. If
one were to incorporate the two, one would see that the funding
per capita in London is equivalent to the funding per capita in
the rest of the country.
I thank the right hon. Member for her very salient point. Given
the funding, or lack of it, from Arts Council England, the future
of the ENO is dependent on two factors. The key driver is to move
out from its current location at the London Coliseum. The debate
on cuts to funding could be a standalone issue, so I will not
stray into its complexities right now. I will take that up when I
discuss ENO funding with Arts Council England this week.
Right now, what I hear is that one of the major issues the ENO
faces is not necessarily a prospective move, but the tightening
of timescales and a lack of due consultation. My hon. Friend the
Member for Bromley and Chislehurst ( ) mentioned the lack of
consultation with the ENO. In fact, Arts Council England expects
20 weeks, between now and April, to be enough for the ENO to
start making decisions about its future.
Although I appreciate that a funding decision must be made,
moving the ENO in its entirety is a big misstep. As we have
heard, it will take five years at least. Is Manchester the right
place? I personally want consideration to be given to the model
used by the Royal Shakespeare Company, which has a base in the
Barbican centre and in Stratford-upon-Avon. That works well: it
keeps the London offer, but goes out into the provinces. I cannot
see why Arts Council England should not work with the ENO to
discuss that type of move, which would keep the London Coliseum
alive while perhaps not moving the ENO up north. We have a
brilliant Opera North organisation. What about the west country?
What about Bristol, Exeter or Plymouth? Those areas need
levelling up. Why cannot Arts Council England work with Stuart
Murphy and his team to give proper consideration to that?
Will the hon. Lady give way?
(in the Chair)
Order. I have to protect the time for the two remaining speakers
who are seeking to contribute. The hon. Gentleman can seek an
intervention if he wishes, but doing so would reduce the time for
the last two speakers.
I was just pointing out that the Welsh National Opera does
Bristol.
I thank the hon. Gentleman for pointing that out—maybe Exeter and
Plymouth, then.
Let me move on to another very important point: the economic
drivers that culture brings to areas such as central London.
Central London is the powerhouse of the economy and that is
because of the hospitality, leisure and culture sectors working
together. For every £1 spent in theatres, £5 is spent in the
wider local economy. That is tens of thousands—if not hundreds of
thousands—of jobs. That is not just in London, but across every
major city that has theatres. We have the pantomime season coming
up now—oh yes we have! I used to go to the pantomime in Cardiff
with my grandparents every year; the local economy really does
depend on families going to the theatre and having a meal before
or afterwards.
In the very short time I have left, I pay tribute to my hon.
Friend the Member for Gosport for securing this debate but also
for her outstanding work as a Minister. During covid, the arts
and culture sector was on its knees; there were worries. I had
calls every day during lockdown from really major players in the
culture sector who were worried about whether they would ever
open their doors again. I pay tribute to my hon. Friend for
working with me to secure the £1.5 billion culture recovery fund.
I know that she played a huge part in that; it made a difference
not just to my arts and culture sector in central London, but
across the country.
I end by saying that we face a very difficult economic time, but
we cannot lose sight of the contribution that artists, the arts
and culture play in our country—from not just an economic, but a
health and wellbeing point of view. I hope we can keep securing
all that and that we can save the ENO.
5.02pm
(Vauxhall)
(Lab/Co-op)
Apologies that I did not notify your office that I wanted to
speak, Mr Hollobone. It is a pleasure to follow my constituency
neighbour and to praise the hon. Member for Gosport (Dame ) for raising this
important and timely debate.
I declare an interest: I was a member of Arts Council England for
the London region for seven years. While on the Arts Council, one
of the things I tried to push was ensuring that it funded some of
the smaller organisations, which were not well known but had a
massive reach in bringing great art and culture to a really
diverse audience. There is still a notion that arts, culture,
opera and music are for a select few, but we know that the power
of arts and culture—in transforming lives, in bringing new people
into a new role, in tapping into the creativity that a number of
our young people have—is so important.
I am proud to represent Vauxhall, which is home to some of the
most iconic arts organisations in the world, such as the Old Vic,
the Young Vic, the Southbank Centre, the National Theatre, the
BFI, Waterloo East theatre, Omnibus theatre and Rambert, to name
just a few. They are fantastic institutions that reach not only
across London, but right across the country. That is the power of
publicly funded arts organisations.
The Arts Council England announcement last week shows a
real-terms cut to London’s cultural sector. That is a shame
because—on the back of the covid pandemic and so many other
issues—we know the power of arts and culture in helping to
address the issues we face, such as the challenges of mental
health.
The joy of seeing a group of young people from Lambeth stand on
stage at the Southbank Centre at the annual Lambeth Sounds music
festival—a number of parents never having seen their children
perform, a number never having even been to the Southbank Centre:
that is the power of arts and culture, but it can happen only if
we continue to fund these great organisations. They do fantastic
work in reaching out.
I have just one question for the Minister on this: does he agree
that we cannot level up the rest of the country by levelling down
London’s renowned cultural sector? I hope that he will work with
Arts Council England in terms of looking at this decision and
supporting great organisations, including the ENO, to ensure we
continue to have great arts for everybody instead of feeling that
arts and culture is for people who can afford it.
We have the power to succeed in making sure this works and to
create new, emerging talent. We have the BFI London film festival
in my constituency, which taps into some of the new talent that
we did not even know existed. We could lose all that if we do not
nurture it. I want to see art being taught in our schools.
Schools funding has been cut in this sector; we do not speak
about that enough. Why is it that only parents who can afford
extra music lessons get their children to play instruments? It is
so important. Not every child will be academic, but a number of
them can be creative if we support those subjects. I want the
Minister to talk about that.
I finish with some of the other costs and measures that the arts
sector is facing. Energy costs have increased. A number of
buildings are crumbling. There is no discussion about capital;
that is another area that is often left out. I hope that the
Minister will come back to those issues. I reiterate the need to
ensure that we support London’s heartbeat: its cultural
sector.
5.05pm
(Truro and Falmouth)
(Con)
I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Gosport (Dame ) for bringing forward
this important debate. Believe it or not, creative arts run
through the very veins of Cornwall, just as much as fishing,
farming or mining. In fact, in a village called Playing Place
between Truro and Falmouth, plays were performed in the round in
medieval times. And if anyone was in Truro on 27 June 1970, they
might have gone to see the first gig of a small, little-known
band named Queen. We now have a global reputation in visual arts
and theatre; a university dedicated to the creative industries; a
growing appeal for international TV and film
productions, musicians and music
producers; and world-class digital connectivity.
Cornwall’s creative achievements are the result of planning and
hard work in recent times by a lot of local people and
organisations, who have worked together to help Cornwall’s
creative rural economy grow. As such, Cornwall has more creative
jobs than any other rural part of the United Kingdom. A brilliant
local example is Falmouth University, which used to be Falmouth
College of Arts. It is now leading the charge to change the way
in which creative education is delivered. It is central to
Falmouth’s role as a major creative innovation hub, and its
teaching facilities are second to none.
We must also continue to support our local and home-grown assets
in Cornwall, such as the Hall for Cornwall in Truro. This social
enterprise and charity brings great shows to Cornwall, bolsters
schools and communities with local projects, and supports artists
and practitioners who create original work. The herculean
efforts, led by Julien Boast, were completed throughout covid and
under very difficult circumstances. I am pleased that Arts
Council England has recently announced an over £1 million
investment between 2023 and 2026 for the Hall for Cornwall Trust,
which will bring growth and creative opportunities for local
people. That investment will help to solidify Truro’s status as a
cultural hub for the arts and the creative sector. I urge the
Government to continue to support the venue in the years to
come.
There is more. There is also the Old Bakery Studios in Truro,
which offers more than 50 studios and workspaces to artists of
all types. RouteNote, a company in Newham, offers a way
for musicians around the
world to stream their tracks on Spotify and the like. Cornwall
County Council is also supporting the arts and creative
industries with its creative manifesto, which is an ambitious
plan for the next few years to maintain and enhance Cornwall’s
position in the sector. The plan includes ambitions to boost
culture in communities, promote collaborative working, get more
people into creative jobs and ensure the sustainability of this
important industry.
The Government are right to have supported the creative
industries throughout the pandemic, providing nearly £2 billion
for the sector. I am also grateful to them for announcing a £50
million investment package for creative businesses across the UK
earlier this year. However, we must recognise the challenges that
the industry continues to face, some of which we have heard about
this afternoon.
Despite everything that we have going for us in Cornwall, our
social and economic context remains a challenge, and we are
behind the majority of the UK on a lot of key economic
measurements. A low-wage seasonal economy, a lack of affordable
housing and a skills shortage among young people are holding the
creative industries back. If we can tackle those challenges,
celebrate our creatives and artists, and target investment into
our region, Cornwall can continue to play a central role in
helping the UK become a world leader in these sectors.
Let me be clear: creative arts are key to levelling up Cornwall.
I look forward to continuing work with the Government to support
this cause, and I would be delighted to welcome the Minister to
Cornwall to see at first hand the exciting work that is going
on.
5.09pm
(Ochil and South Perthshire)
(SNP)
I congratulate the hon. Member for Gosport (Dame ) on securing this debate.
I was particularly interested in her references to Korea; I
recently came back from Korea with other members of the Digital,
Culture, Media and Sport Committee. We have a great deal to learn
from them. I reference the comments from the right hon. Member
for Barking ( ) about Stratford and
regeneration. Last night, we visited “Abba Voyage”, which was
specifically chosen to help regenerate. I would like to associate
myself with the comments about the English National Opera, which
many Members made. I am a great fan of the ENO and wish to see it
thrive.
We all appreciate the vital role of culture and art in our lives.
Art offers consolation, empowerment to communities, and culture
benefits for participants and performers and helps people to
realise their own value. We in Scotland cannot mitigate entirely
the impacts of covid or the rise in costs but, as so much of
culture is devolved, the Scottish Government have acted. We
delivered an addition £125 million in funding for culture and
heritage before covid, and a further £2.2 million directed at
grassroots venues to make sure that once the worst of the
pandemic had passed, we would still have stages to fill.
Scotland needs the borrowing powers that would allow us to meet
critical issues with emergency funding when required. Instead, we
have to rely on the UK Government. At a time when we need all the
help practicable to secure an industry that has done so much with
so little money, we instead have disastrous cuts to the budgets.
We know the impacts: a 7.1% drop in disposable income over the
next two years. This is a time when the cultural sector needs
more audience numbers and more tickets sold.
The UK Government are hellbent on pursuing Brexit to the rock
bottom, regardless of casualties. The hard Brexit has cut off
revenue streams, making it harder for cultural actors from
Scotland to travel to the EU to earn money from audiences there.
rather casually said of his
failure to secure a deal on touring artists, that it was a
“shame”. The man failed to deliver a specific deal on the issue.
Twenty four out of 27 EU countries have agreed access for
touring musicians but they are
not uniform. It is so much more difficult to tour—for some
players, it has become impossible.
Brexit is an irredeemable failure. However, the specific damage
to the cultural sector can be mitigated with effort at the
negotiating table. We need the UK Government to accept their
failings and the sharp need for Scotland’s cultural sector to
frictionless access to the EU, along with our friends south of
the border. The Scottish Government are engaged constantly in a
dialogue with stakeholders in the cultural sector to seek
pathways through these crises. We have suggestions: a cut in VAT
would help struggling venues; renegotiating with a homogeneous
simple touring visa within the UK would enormously; and the
devolution of borrowing powers to Holyrood could support those
most in need.
A future without our vibrant arts and cultural sector is surely
unthinkable. On the Scottish National party Benches here at
Westminster and at Scottish Government level we will do all we
can to shield Scotland and its cultural sector from many of the
calamities imposed upon us by Brexit and the UK Government.
5.13pm
(Worsley and Eccles South)
(Lab)
I declare that I am the chair of the all-party parliamentary
group on classical music. It is a pleasure to speak in this
debate with you in the Chair, Mr Hollobone. I thank the hon.
Member for Gosport (Dame ) for securing this
debate, and all right hon. and hon. Members who have
contributed.
Our leading arts and culture organisations have been enriching
our lives, enhancing our reputation on the world stage and
contributing to our GDP for many years. Yet, having weathered the
challenges from the covid pandemic and a decade of funding cuts
to the arts, they now face a perfect storm of increased energy
and operating costs, and a cost of living squeeze on audiences.
Financial security has rarely been more important. Given the
scale of the current pressures on arts organisations, I hope the
Government will consider measures widely called for across the
sector, such as the extension of the current higher rates of
theatre tax relief and orchestra tax relief beyond next
spring.
I want to speak mostly about the funding allocations for Arts
Council England’s investment programme 2023 to 2026. While some
excellent organisations are being given national portfolio
organisation status, overall the recent announcement showed poor
planning, short-sightedness and too much political direction.
First, the chaos in Government led to a last-minute delay in the
funding announcement. Then, what actually emerged were proposals
that imperilled the arts sector through cuts to institutions,
which as we have heard, have their roots in the core of the
sector.
Cuts have been imposed on theatres and opera companies, which
contribute significantly to the arts talent pipeline and are
vital to the health of our regional theatres through their
touring. Glyndebourne production has had its funding halved,
despite its production of “La bohème” filling out theatres in
Norwich and Liverpool this month. Welsh National Opera is another
touring company that has had its funding cut by a third, as
mentioned by my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff West (). These organisations are
being cut despite doing everything that was asked of them.
English National Opera delivers education and outreach programmes
that reach 165,000 people every year. It has worked hard to
increase access to opera from free tickets for under-21s to
relaxed performances, and it has the most diverse full-time
chorus in the country. Yet the ENO has been entirely cut from the
national portfolio organisations programme and will receive
nothing from next October if it does not move from London to
Manchester, affecting the job security of 300 full-time employees
and over 600 freelancers.
We have heard about the total lack of consultation around this
suggested move. It is one of the clearest indicators of a
top-down approach from Arts Council England and the Department
for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. I have to say to the
Minister that this seems to be more about political gimmickry
around levelling up than a true rebalancing of power to regions
outside of London. As we have heard, not one of the key
organisations affected by the suggested ENO move to Manchester
was consulted before the public announcement, including Greater
Manchester Mayor Andy , Manchester City Council, Opera
North and the Factory.
The funding allocated for the move is just £17 million—a fraction
of what would be needed for ENO to operate from Manchester. After
splashing £120 million on the Unboxed festival, which only
reached a quarter of its audience target, Ministers should think
again about these cuts. Donmar Warehouse is another example of a
world-class producing theatre that has lost all its NPO funding.
It told me that
“this self-defeating decision will undo much of the work
that...has been done over the past few years and prevent us from
implementing our plans to further expand our footprint outside of
London.”
What we have seen is an attempt to address regional disparity by
shifting some funding to the regions, but doing so out of a
funding pot that has been shrinking since 2010, and 70% of the
organisations being entirely cut from the programme are based
outside London, including the Oldham Coliseum, the Britten
Sinfonia and the Watermill theatre.
Levelling up should not be about pitting the arts against each
other. Arbitrarily cutting and directing arts organisations
without planning or consultation risks their very existence and
makes it more difficult to improve regional parity in arts
provision. Arts Council England has admitted that the unpopular
choices made in this latest funding round are a direct result of
instruction from Ministers. I urge the Minister to recognise in
future the value of an independent Arts Council England setting
its own agenda and being flexible to the needs of the
organisations it serves.
It is clear from today’s debate that we need a proper plan to
fund ENO, rather than expecting it to undertake a move to another
city and exist on a third of the funding. I support the calls
made by my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for
Camberwell and Peckham (Ms Harman) for a strategic review of
opera provision, the reinstatement of a realistic level of
funding, and time to consult and conduct any feasibility
assessment for moving out of London.
5.18pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Digital, Culture,
Media and Sport ()
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Hollobone.
I am glad to be here to discuss the Government’s support for the
arts and culture sector. I am grateful to my hon. Friend the
Member for Gosport (Dame ) for securing the debate
and I thank everyone for their contributions. My hon. Friend is a
passionate supporter of arts and the creative industries, and I
share everyone’s view that her steadfast support for the cultural
sector during the covid pandemic as the Arts Minister meant that
she was instrumental in securing the unparalleled cultural
recovery fund, the film and TV production restart scheme and
covid reinsurance schemes, all delivered by DCMS over those two
years.
Frankly, without my hon. Friend’s instrumental work in securing
and delivering that fund, this debate would be telling a
different story—one of how to rebuild a decimated industry.
Instead, our support for the sector has been unprecedented.
Around 5,000 organisations were supported through the cultural
recovery fund, alongside additional support through pan-economic
measures, such as the self-employment income support scheme and
the furlough scheme.
The 2021 Budget also increased tax reliefs for theatres,
orchestras, museums and galleries until 2024. Those additional
tax reliefs are worth almost a quarter of a billion pounds and
are a fantastic boost for the cultural sector to keep producing
the content for which we are world famous. Taken together, the
interventions supported the cultural sector through the
challenges of covid and steered it into recovery.
The Government’s investment in culture is at the heart of our
levelling up approach, with a strong belief that the enrichment
that culture brings to people’s lives needs to be more equitably
spread.
(Halesowen and Rowley Regis)
(Con)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Very quickly, because I have eight minutes to get through a
lot.
I thank my hon. Friend for giving way. On the point about the ENO
and levelling up, do we not need a better definition of what we
mean by levelling up when it comes to opera? It is not just about
where things are located, but about how young people learn about
opera, how it is perceived in schools and so on. Do we not need a
better definition of what we mean by levelling up—not just
distributing money?
I take on board my hon. Friend’s points and will come on to some
of them later on. The economic growth that creativity can
catalyse should be seen in all our towns and cities, and the
pride of place that culture and heritage can bring to communities
should be felt across the entire country. That is why we asked
Arts Council England to invest more in its levelling up for
culture places. That is why we are investing across England
through the cultural investment fund. That is why DCMS and its
arms-length bodies have been supporting the assessment process of
the levelling-up fund which, importantly, has culture and
heritage as one of its three priority investment themes.
As hon. Members will know, central to all that support is our
delivery partner Arts Council England. It has recently announced
the outcome of its 2023 to 2026 investment programme, which will
be investing £446 million each year in arts and culture in
England. That will support 990 organisations across the whole of
England—more than ever before and in more places than ever
before—with 276 organisations set to join the portfolio, 215 of
which are outside London. That, for example, includes £500,000
for the Hampshire Cultural Trust on an annual basis. Its
application was focused on expanding the organisation’s work in
three of Arts Council England’s priority places, including the
constituency of my hon. Friend the Member for Gosport, along with
Rushmoor and the New Forest. The trust described the decision as
“a landmark day”.
Will the Minister give way?
I am afraid I am running out of time. I have been asked a lot of
questions, and I need to get through them all.
In short, I am unapologetic that the Arts Council is providing
support to more organisations in more places than ever before for
the following reasons. First, it is providing more opportunities
for children and young people. There will be a 20% increase in
organisations that are funded to deliver work for children and
young people in the new portfolio and 79% of the new portfolio
will deliver activity specifically for children and young
people.
Secondly, it is supporting more libraries and museums than ever
before. Funding for libraries will increase nearly three-fold and
223 accredited museums will receive a total investment of more
than £113 million over three years, representing an increase of
21%.
Thirdly, we will see an increased investment in 78 previously
underserved places, totalling £43 million each year and
representing an increase of 95%. Places such as Blackburn, which
never got a penny before, will now have four projects supported.
That is something I certainly support.
I understand that some hon. Members may disagree with the
decisions taken by the Arts Council in recent funding
announcements. The individual decisions were taken by the Arts
Council, which assessed an unprecedented number of applications.
The decisions are therefore for the Arts Council to comment on.
However, I am sure my hon. Friend the Member for Gosport will
agree with me that, stepping back and looking at the whole
picture, it is exciting to see a portfolio that gives people
right across the country more opportunities to access culture on
their doorstop. The new portfolio supports both new and more
established organisations to develop and thrive.
I turn to the English National Opera. There were a record number
of applications, and it was a competitive fund. I recognise that
leaving the portfolio can be a difficult process for
organisations, their employees and their audiences. While I
cannot comment on the specifics of individual funding decisions
that were taken independently by the Arts Council, ACE has
proposed a package of support to the English National Opera. The
Department is very keen that Arts Council England and the English
National Opera work together on the possibilities for the future
of the organisation. My noble friend , the Arts Minister, has been
very keen to hear the views of Members in the debate today. I
will ensure that he will be aware of the points raised.
A number of other specific points were raised. The Creative
Industries Council has been a key partner in supporting the
creative industries. It has provided a forum for us to engage
directly with the industry on the challenges and opportunities
they face, and we worked together to deliver the 2018 sector
deal. It has been our partner in developing the creative
industries sector vision, which will be published in the new
year. I welcome the points raised by my hon. Friend the Member
for Gosport.
On creative exports, UK creative industries were identified in
the Government’s export strategy as a priority sector to
contribute to the Government’s target of £1 trillion of UK
exports by 2035. The Government are not currently pursuing an
export office, but continue to support creatives exporting to
Europe and the world with a range of export support programmes,
including the successful music export growth scheme and the
international showcase funds. We will continue to work with the
Department for International Trade on these important issues.
I am conscious of the time, so I will have to write to hon.
Members about several issues. On the Smart fund, the Minister of
State, Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, my hon.
Friend the Member for Hornchurch and Upminster (), has already met with
industry bodies to learn about the proposals. I will make her
aware of the comments made in the debate today.
Finally, the hon. Member for Cardiff West () asked me to read the APPG
report, which I am more than happy to do; again, I will raise the
issue with the appropriate Minister.
I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Gosport again for bringing
this debate forward. I am grateful for the opportunity to listen
to Member, and I will make my colleagues in the Department aware
of the points raised strongly today. I am aware of the impact of
the pandemic on the arts and culture workforce and how many left
the sector as a result. The best way we can bring those people
back and attract new people in is to help drive growth.
Ultimately, we want to drive that growth across the entire
country.
5.28pm
Dame
I thank all right hon. and hon. Members who have taken part
today. This has been a really great debate. I thank the
Minister—apologies for the fact that he has had a bit of an
ear-bashing. I welcome him to his role; I know that he will carry
it out as he has all the others, with an enormous amount of
dedication and ability.
The Minister kicked off by talking about the immense work that
happened in DCMS over the pandemic. He is absolutely right—an
enormous amount of blood, sweat, tears and money came out of the
incredible team at DCMS over that period, and there are a number
of cultural institutions that simply would not be around today
had there not been that amount of work. I guess what I am saying
today is that we must not lose that momentum. We must build on
that.
Our arts and culture make us feel good and are good for our
health and wellbeing, but they also define us—they are who we are
as a nation. Even if we talk about the issue in cold hard pounds,
shillings and pence, they are the cornerstone of our UK economy.
As I said before, the sector makes up 12% of our service exports.
The sector means business.
At the heart of the sector are the artists and creative talent
who make it possible. It does not happen by magic; it happens
when we support them, nurture them and encourage them. We cannot
take our eye off the ball on that. Knowing that money is tight, I
urge the Minister to look at some of the investment I spoke about
today, such as the Smart fund—innovative ways of generating money
to support our creatives—and to look again, if he can, at some of
the decisions made by the Arts Council. Although I completely
agree with the idea of devolving money to other parts of the UK,
we do not do it by destroying cultural institutions that have
already done so much to support our culture and arts.
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