Moved by Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay That the Committee do
consider the Bill. 3.49pm The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of
State, Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (Lord
Parkinson of Whitley Bay) (Con) My Lords, I am grateful for the
Committee’s understanding. I have just finished answering a Private
Notice Question in the Chamber. The Bill allows for the use in
electronic form of certain trade documents, such as bills of lading
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Moved by
of Whitley Bay
That the Committee do consider the Bill.
3.49pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for
Digital, Culture, Media and Sport ( of Whitley Bay) (Con)
My Lords, I am grateful for the Committee’s understanding. I have
just finished answering a Private Notice Question in the
Chamber.
The Bill allows for the use in electronic form of certain trade
documents, such as bills of lading and bills of exchange, which
currently have to be on paper and physically possessed. It
implements the recommendations made by the Law Commission of
England and Wales in its report on electronic trade documents,
which was published earlier this year. The Bill is not mandatory:
it is a permissive and facilitative piece of legislation. Though
it is only a small Bill, of seven clauses in length, its impact
will be huge. It will help to boost the UK’s international trade,
already worth more than £1.4 trillion, by providing benefits to
UK businesses over the next 10 years of £1.1 billion.
In short, the Bill will allow businesses to use electronic trade
documents when buying and selling internationally, making it
easier, cheaper, faster and more secure for them to trade. It is
fully supported by the businesses and industries that it is
designed to help. The Government’s role here is simply to remove
an obstacle to progress and to pave the way for international
trade and trade law to be brought up to date.
The Law Commission published its recommendations and draft
legislation in March this year. In its report, it made
recommendations for legislative reform to allow trade documents
in electronic form which can satisfy certain criteria to have the
same legal effect and functionality as their paper counterparts.
The Law Commission undertook significant consultation on the aim
and contents of the Bill throughout the development of its
recommendations. It spoke to a wide range of interested parties,
including academics, lawyers, trade experts and industry
representatives.
No previous attempts have been made to legislate in this area,
which is one of the factors that makes this Bill unique and
novel. While the Law Commission’s recommendations are for the law
of England and Wales, we have worked with the territorial offices
and devolved Administrations to ensure that the Bill can be
extended to Scotland and Northern Ireland to ensure that
businesses across the UK can benefit from this important
development.
Business-to-business documents such as bills of lading, which are
contracts between parties involved in shipping goods, and bills
of exchange, which are used to help importers and exporters
complete transactions, currently have to be paper-based. Existing
laws, such as the Bills of Exchange Act 1882 and the Carriage of
Goods by Sea Act 1992, did not envisage the digitisation of these
documents. This Bill seeks to modernise the law, enabling this
move to digital trade documents. Under the Bill, digital trade
documents will be put on the same legal footing as their
paper-based equivalents, giving UK businesses more choice and
flexibility in how they trade.
The impact of the Bill cannot be overstated. Whether it is
lowering transaction costs associated with trade by reducing
resourcing and operational costs and increasing productivity;
whether it is increasing efficiency and encouraging business
growth by facilitating the development of digital products and
services; whether it is delivering environmental benefits through
a reduction in paper documents and emissions from couriering the
paper documents; or, critically, whether it is increasing the
security, transparency, traceability and transactional data of
the flows of goods and finance—the Bill has the potential to
revolutionise UK businesses’ ability to trade across borders.
To illustrate this, the process of moving goods across borders
involves a range of actors, including those involved in
transportation, insurance, finance and logistics. One trade
finance transaction typically involves 20 different parties using
between 10 and 20 paper documents, totalling over 100 pages.
Research carried out by industry and academia has produced the
following illuminating statistics and figures.
The use of electronic trade documents will reduce trade contract
processing times from between seven and 10 days to as little as
20 seconds, according to the industry publication Trade Finance
Global. The Digital Container Shipping Association estimates
that, if 50% of the container shipping industry adopted
electronic bills of lading, the collective global savings would
be around £3.6 billion per annum. The International Chamber of
Commerce estimates that small and medium businesses could see a
13% increase in international business if trade is digitised, and
the World Economic Forum has found that digitising trade
documents could reduce global carbon dioxide emissions from
logistics by as much as 12%. Electronic trade documents also
increase security and compliance by making it easier to trace
records.
The Bill will lay the foundations for the future digitisation of
our global trade approach and ambitions. I hope it receives
strong support from your Lordships and I look forward to noble
Lords’ contributions to this debate. I beg to move.
3.55pm
(CB)
My Lords, the Minister intimated that this is a milestone,
innovative Bill, so with the leave of the Committee I intend to
follow that theme and be equally innovative.
One of the essential ingredients to make progress with the global
trading community is to combine innovation, build efficiency and
create sustainability and to do so by joining the dots—putting
the jigsaw into place, if you will. Currently there are different
excellent components that could usefully be harnessed into a
unified approach, rather than being taken in isolation. Over the
past months, I have been reflecting on a possible global trade
blueprint and will take the extended opportunity afforded today
to put into context three ingredients that could dovetail with
the Electronic Trade Documents Bill, which would be a key
component. However, none is dependent on any other.
The first lends itself well, as the Commonwealth is fertile
ground given the commonality of common law and language, which is
the bedrock of this Electronic Trade Documents Bill. It is a free
trade agreement template initially targeting Commonwealth member
states, excluding the two that are members of the EU as they are
responsible to internal protocols, that can be adjusted by
country to address any specific anomalies. I was originally
approached some time back by a well-meaning US interest to stitch
together a US/Commonwealth agreement, including the UK, of
course, that would unlock the UK/US circumstance, given that the
bilateral free trade agreement is moribund. This Commonwealth
approach would consist of making a template of what is expected
to be covered in a trade agreement with language options built
in. To fast forward to the week before last, I was delighted to
learn at first hand that our very own noble Lord, Lord Hannan,
who is not in his place, is also running with this ball with his
Institute for Free Trade, in a most welcome development.
The second is a dedicated, big-data analytics platform to
encompass advanced data analytics and modelling for foreign trade
data relating to supply chains in order to consolidate multiple
datasets already used by the International Trade Council. These
datasets, with additional overlays into a single database, could
be used for analysis of markets and supply chains, forecasting
and predicting market behaviour. This would enable corporates to
validate their supply chains, understand market pricing, monitor
competitors and forecast the market and would allow Governments
seeking to assist their exporters to find new markets, identify
priority investment FDI targets and model future market demand,
growth, customers and suppliers. A UK entity is in the making to
transition this data for global consumption.
Thirdly, and this brings me full cycle to the Electronic Trade
Documents Bill, the magic is that it is all the more beneficial
for being an enabler process, free for the world to join up
to—just follow the provisions. If the answer to today’s ails is
in the timing, this initiative hits the spot with the legal
enactment necessary to a more competitive world to the benefit of
all. Passing this law would be a victory for global trade and for
the United Nations, as the legislative work is led through the UN
Model Law on Electronic Transferable Records—MLETR. By allowing
electronic documents and physical documents to be used in
parallel, the transition to paperless trade can be made an
evolutionary process where the adoption of electronic trade
documents will take place when different stakeholders in trade
and trade finance are ready to take the step to paperless
trade.
Radical change in removing paper-based trading documents will
make for a faster, lower-cost, more resilient and more liquid
world of trading, leading towards transparent digital supply
chain management. It will be especially good for small
businesses. While all problems cannot be solved at once,
recognising a practical step-by-step approach to solve one would
be an excellent beginning.
The Bill is core to the success of improving logistical flow that
will address the impediment to the speed of payments, and the
current need to move paper to discharge goods and receive
payments, bringing more opportunities as we align with the MLETR
and benefit from digital trade corridors and individual country
compliance, to which I have referred. This will allow for
documents that carry value and promises to be drawn up and signed
in digital form, provided that the system or document fulfils the
listed requirements of the Bill.
A number of trade documents with which domestic and cross-border
trade would become significantly more efficient and affordable
for all are listed, but small and medium-sized entities would
benefit the most. This will create significant opportunities for
smaller importers and exporters globally, one reason being that
the law of England and Wales is often used when parties have
difficulties agreeing on the jurisdiction in which to settle
disputes.
Therefore, the Bill brings benefits not only for the United
Kingdom but for importers, exporters, carriers, brokers and
bankers internationally. It should be recognised that the Bill is
a stepping-stone towards enabling the modernisation of domestic
and international trade, but more needs to be done to reduce
friction in trade and trade finance.
Four questions come to mind which illustrate this and I would be
grateful for the Government’s view. Are they satisfied that:
international digital identities are sufficiently harmonised;
international digital signatory laws are harmonised;
international freight tracking systems with a lack of
interoperability are a hurdle that needs to be overcome; and
legal entity identifiers are accepted universally?
Significant work is being done and progress is being made in
these areas by industry organisations but this needs to be
supported by Governments to pave the way for international
harmonisation and adoption. It will be a balancing act to create
international standards in such a way that creates legal
certainty on the one hand without hampering further adoption of
new technologies or innovation on the other.
The United Nations Model Law on Electronic Transferable Records
is a very well-designed framework, balancing the need for
commercial certainty, relying on current and internationally
well-harmonised substantive laws, with allowing for electronic
trade documents, providing that the provisions in the MLETR are
met.
The Bill will play a pivotal role when other countries revise
their bills of exchange acts and other trade-related legislation
when promoting alignment to the MLETR. I anticipate that this
will become a global trend, with law changes already taking place
in North America, South America, the Middle East, Asia and
Europe.
The Bill does not change the function of the instruments listed
in the Bill. All the safety mechanisms these instruments have and
cater for remain intact. Allowing them to be in electronic format
means that they will become more efficient and significantly
safer. I underline, however, that the Bill does not address the
quality of signatures or how to establish identities, other than
to say that they need to be “reliable”. The European Union has a
list of trusted digital signature sites and for trade it is
important that different parties can use simple verification
processes to trust the documents coming from another party, but
it is up to the contracting parties to define the method to
ensure reliability.
What is reliable today, however, will differ tomorrow as new
technology evolves. Legislation that is principles-based rather
than technically prescriptive is more favourable. The adoption of
the EU regulation for eID and other electronic trust services has
been slow in cross-border trade, the main reason being that these
have not been readily available and easily accessible as
technical solutions. The result has been paper-based trade rather
than electronic. Although not perfect, in some cases a lower
standard is the stepping-stone for adoption, especially in
cross-border dealings, provided that the parties have agreed on
where to settle disputes.
The Bill does not resolve the development and standardisation of
eID and signature technologies, however, which must continue to
evolve. We will also see new payment and settlement solutions,
possibly decentralised, as we realise that large players such as
MasterCard and Visa will come to have a large degree of global
systemic risks associated.
The Bill will help to encourage the development of solutions that
will address deficiencies. To take some examples to illustrate
progress, Trace:Original, a product of Enigio of Sweden, is
producing the means by which electronic documents that will be
trade finance-enabled yet functionally equivalent to a paper
document, which will render documents paperless using existing
processes and international practices, provided that this
Electronic Trade Documents Bill passes. I am informed that Lloyds
Bank is showcasing the technology available and that the
efficiency gains are significant for all concerned. There is also
noteworthy development with Contained’s BlueRing platform as a
technology solution advancing the process.
It is essential that there be a key role for the Commonwealth
Secretariat in informing and encouraging Governments. We should
also look at a mix of the Institute of Export and International
Trade—with which I am also discussing the role of secretariat to
the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Trade and Investment, which
I co-chair—with additional support from the International Chamber
of Commerce, as an architect of this Bill, together with a
secondee of HMRC of this electronic trade initiative. A trade
advisory to Governments, International Economics, might also be
well suited to act as a global co-ordinator.
These are early days, with much to do and no time to lose. This
enabling Bill is, however, the beginning of an exciting journey
that ticks the boxes and I commend it accordingly.
4.07pm
(Con)
My Lords, I am very glad to have the opportunity to follow the
noble Viscount, Lord Waverley. He is, as he mentioned, co-chair
of the all-party group for trade and export promotion, of which I
am a member—
(CB)
Vice-chair.
(Con)
Indeed—I am a vice-chair. I thought the noble Viscount made some
interesting points, and I very much join him in welcoming the
Bill.
Sometimes, we are wont to criticise Bills that are in the form of
a framework but, in this instance, there is an understandable
structure here from the Law Commission. In the adoption of
electronic trade documents, it encountered the legal constraint
of the possession of electronic trade documents as a common-law
principle and, rather than try to codify and put into statute
everything relating to the common law in this respect, it said,
“Let us at least try to equate electronic trade documents to
paper documents in statute.” This will allow us to see how some
of the courts’ decisions over time enable those established
principles in relation to paper documents to be extended into
electronic trade documents, which would be very helpful.
We are, therefore, dealing with a Bill that is technology
neutral. I know that my noble friend knows far more
about the technology of these things than I do; I hope he will
agree that a technology-neutral Bill is a good structure for us
to work with.
I want to talk about a number of other things. I am a member of
the International Agreements Committee of your Lordships’ House
and we have had the opportunity to look at some of the agreements
that we are now entering into; for example, on digital trade with
Singapore and the free trade agreements that we have entered into
with Australia and New Zealand, as well as the prospect of
entering the CPTPP agreement, which, in the context of regional,
international and plurilateral agreements, is probably the most
advanced in its promotion of digital trade. There is no point
having such agreements that open these opportunities for digital
trade if we do not put the literal building blocks of digital
trade in place.
Last October, the G7 group of Trade Ministers agreed digital
trade principles. I think the United Kingdom was instrumental in
enabling that to be brought together; it is therefore terrific
that we are implementing it rapidly in our legislation. As the
noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, said, I hope other countries will
take similar steps to put their jurisdictions into a similar
framework. I hope we will look toward the framework of the United
Nations Commission on International Trade Law, the Model Law on
Electronic Transferable Records, to which the noble Viscount
referred. The more that jurisdictions across the globe can
structure their legislation domestically on an international
template of that kind, the better.
We have a particular responsibility because, for so many of these
international trade documents, in so far as they have a legal
base, they have it in English law. I am advised that 80% of bills
of lading, if they were challenged, would be challenged in an
English court. We really need to make sure that our law is a
leader in this respect. I hope we will find that during our work
on this Bill.
I entirely applaud the Bill’s overall structure and intentions.
My noble friend the Minister very well and happily set out all
the substantial benefits that can accrue from this, in trade,
economic and environmental terms. I very much look forward to our
achieving those. However, there are issues we need to discuss,
notwithstanding this being a Law Commission Bill; by its nature,
we need to examine it—it is our job as a revising Chamber to look
at it very carefully and ask all the questions, not least so that
the other place can be confident that it can pass it happily and
quickly.
I will refer to a range of issues. Underlying this is the fact
that, if we are not trying to structure the legislation around
the concept of the possession of electronic trade documents, we
are none the less trying to adopt what is referred to as
exclusive control in the singularity of electronic trade
documents. It is difficult. The explanatory notes to the model
law in UNCITRAL captured it rather well at paragraph 82, which
says that
“a paper document, as a physical object, is by nature unique and,
furthermore, centuries of use of paper in business transactions
have provided sufficient information to commercial operators for
an assessment of the risks associated with the use of that
medium, while practices relating to the use of electronic
transferable records are not yet equally well established.”
We need to be sure that we understand where the risks emerge.
There are potential benefits associated with the use of
electronic documents, as my noble friend will doubtless explain,
including those in security and reliability, but there are also
risks.
I hope the House will establish a Public Bill Committee to
examine this Bill so, before I stop, I will raise a number of
issues. I do not ask my noble friend to reply to them in this
debate; they are more appropriate for the committee, but I
thought it would not hurt to flag them up, simply because in my
preparation for today I encountered a number of issues that I
thought would be interesting to discuss.
First, there is a reference in Article 13 of the model law under
UNCITRAL to time. Provisions relating to the indication of time
and place are found in many trade documents; there may well be
mechanisms through which we can make the time of documents
electronically secure, but not necessarily in the same way as we
do with paper documents. This concept of “reliability” will have
to be extended to time on documents as well as to other factors.
Since Article 12 of the model law is transposed almost literally
into this Bill, for example, I wondered why we have not
transposed one or two other aspects of it in the same way.
Secondly, on the question of acting jointly, when one is dealing
with paper documents, one knows who has possession of them. In
the context of electronic documents, not least because of some of
the technological aspects, such as the number of people who have
access to a private key, we may deal with people who have to act
jointly in circumstances that would not be evident for paper
documents. We need to understand the safeguards associated with
the intentions of people acting jointly, because the Bill rests
upon that understanding and how it will be achieved.
Thirdly, there is a whole process in Clause 4 by which documents
can be transferred from paper to electronic or electronic to
paper forms. The Bill is clear that this has to be in
circumstances made evident in the respective documents. However,
if I recall the Explanatory Notes correctly, it is clear that,
while that should be the case, if it is not, it does not
automatically follow that the electronic trade document concerned
is not valid. It may still meet the criteria to be a valid
document for these purposes. I would like to explore in Committee
how that is the case and what happens in circumstances where
documents are transferred from one form to another, not least
because there is greater risk of duplication in such a case.
Clause 1(2) lists examples of documents. This is not the same as
the list in the model law. I know that this is not exhaustive—it
is indicative—but I do not understand why, in paragraph 38 of the
explanatory notes to the UNCITRAL model law, for example, there
is a reference to
“bills of exchange; cheques; promissory notes; consignment notes;
bills of lading; warehouse receipts; insurance certificates; and
air waybills.”
This is not the same as the list in the Bill. Why is it different
and what are the justifications for those differences?
A question we need to follow up and explore further in the debate
is the intention of the Law Commission. It says it is going to
come on to the interaction between these changes and private
international law, but we need to think particularly about the
transitional issues—I hope they are only transitional—associated
with our jurisdiction creating valid electronic trade documents
when other jurisdictions do not. How do we deal with those
connections? From our point of view, similar to the discussion on
a single trade window, we want interoperability. We want our
borders to be frictionless and other borders to be frictionless.
That means they need to be aligned in various ways, including in
those jurisdictions.
I want to make two final points. First, I want to explore what
the voluntary industry standards are for the purposes of the
reliability standard. Secondly, in paragraph 36 of the
Explanatory Notes to the Bill, there is an expectation that
documents are original, but there can of course be multiple
original documents. There can be multiple paper documents that
are treated as original. The explanatory notes for the model law
make it clear that this is something that electronic trade
documents do more readily. We have to understand that these
documents are not necessarily singular and how to deal with them
when they are not, but are multiples that are original.
I hope that gives your Lordships a sense of the discussions we
might have in Committee. I very much share what I hope is the
collective view of the House: I support this Bill and want to see
it make good progress quickly.
4.20pm
(Con)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to take part in this Second Reading
consideration and to follow my noble friend . I congratulate my noble
friend the Minister on his return to the Front Bench. He is back
in physical form and was not in digital form for very long, but
it is great to have him back on the Front Bench. I also
congratulate him on the way in which introduced this small but
incredibly significant piece of legislation.
I would like to set out the problem, the solution and the
potential benefits. Before I do that, it is worth also giving
thanks to all those who have got us to this stage, not least
Professor at the Law Commission, those at
the International Chamber of Commerce, not least Chris
Southworth, and many others who have worked to get the Bill into
condition for our consideration this afternoon. The problem is
pretty simple: to have possession of goods—if they are under a
bill of lading, for example—you must be able to possess that
document. It is much more than a contract merely setting out
terms; it is a possessive document. Possess the paper and you
possess the goods. How is it possible to take this ownership into
a digital and intangible, and as yet in so many ways so
contested, world?
Fortunately, because of new and emerging technologies —the
technologies of the fourth industrial revolution—we now have such
an opportunity. I agree entirely with my noble friend that although distributed
ledger technology, or blockchain, currently offers great
possibilities in this space, in no sense should the Bill be
anything other than neutral about technologies. What we can be
absolutely certain of is that a plurality of technologies will be
coming through, which potentially—not inevitably—can do great
service for us in this and other areas.
The solution is the legislation before us. It is the digital
standards initiative, worked upon by the ICC and the WTO. That
technology, not least because of its ability to enable
immutability and interoperability, is why I undertook research to
report on distributed ledger technology in 2017. I wanted to
highlight the potential public and private good for the nation
from that technology. Had I not done that, the fear, which is as
clear and present a danger today as it was back in 2017, is that
all too often blockchain is seen as bitcoin, which is seen by
many as suboptimal. Thus all the potential public and private
benefits—potential, not inevitable—of distributed ledger
technology could be lost even before we got beyond proof of
concept. Those three elements—legislation, standards and
technology —give us the opportunities which we are discussing
today.
I turn to the benefits. The economic benefits were well set out
by my noble friend the Minister. There is £1.4 trillion of
business in international trade in the UK currently; if just 50%
of bills of lading were put in this format, there would be a £3.6
billion annual benefit for the UK. Respondents to the Law
Commission’s consultation asserted a potential 5% saving in
transaction cost as a result of this.
Perhaps even more important than the economic benefit, and
certainly pertinent today, are the environmental benefits. The
World Economic Forum calculates a 10% to 12% reduction in carbon
from the logistics business if these measures are fully
implemented. At the moment, if a cargo comes into Singapore, for
example, without the paperwork as it is in London, someone has to
board a plane to go to Singapore to deliver the document because,
remember, “possess the document, possess the goods”. There is the
economic waste and an environmental impact of those actions. As
result of this Bill those seven to 10 days are potentially
reduced to a 20-second process with no travel requirement. This
could give us the transparency and accountability that we require
in our supply chains. Recent history has shown us in painful ways
that we do not have the supply chains we currently need or
transparency, accountability and sustainability in our supply
chains. This legislation could combine origin, ownership and
payment liabilities in the same data ecosystem, with all actors
being able to access broadly the same data for economic, social
and environmental benefits.
The Electronic Trade Documents Bill is in many ways one of the
most important Bills, yet currently so few people know about it.
It is one of the most important Bills heard of by so few. It has
the potential to eliminate over time the 4 billion-plus pieces of
paper currently circulating around the world. Crucially, the Bill
as drafted is rightly facilitative and permissive. It is not
mandatory, and that is quite right. Does my noble friend the
Minister agree that even after the passage of the Bill that means
a continuing need for industry-led, government-supported efforts
to ensure that we continue to provide that combination of
legislation, standards and technologies to enable all in this
ecosystem to avail themselves of the potential benefits which it
enables?
Other issues have already been touched upon which are incredibly
significant in this space. What is my noble friend the Minister’s
view on where the current work is in terms of the 2025 border
strategy and the technologies being deployed there, not least in
the potential for atomic settlement at the border and how that
could transform the experience for our traders, and on how the
current work on digital ID in the UK can lead and interact
internationally and ensure that there is that work on standards
and that there is interoperability? It is fruitless for any
nation to have tip-top digital ID if there is no
interoperability. What other work is currently going on in my
noble friend’s department and across Whitehall on the deployment
and potential use of distributed ledger technology and all the
technologies of the fourth industrial revolution? What potential
problems is his department currently looking at putting such
technologies to?
The Electronic Trade Documents Bill is one of the most
significant pieces of legislation which most people have not
heard of. It is trade-transforming, tech-enabling, economic
growth-generating, carbon-cutting legislation. The UK has such an
opportunity when tied to common law to lead, connect and
collaborate in this space, not least across the G7, for the
benefit of all nations right around the globe. I wish this
legislation a safe Second Reading and swift passage into
statute.
4.29pm
(Con)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Committee for the opportunity to
make a short contribution in the gap. I greatly welcome the
Electronic Trade Documents Bill and, in doing so, declare an
interest as chairman of the government-appointed national
accreditation body, the United Kingdom Accreditation
Service—UKAS. It is in that role particularly that I commend this
Bill for the downstream benefits it will bring. They include
greater transparency, digital verification and mutual recognition
of third-party testing, inspection and certification—all of which
are critical to reducing technical barriers to UK and global
trade.
More generally, in echoing my noble friend , I welcome the
Bill’s purpose to make trade more efficient and sustainable, as
well as the important opportunities it will enable in respect of
international co-operation and interoperability in digital
trade.
Our current paper-based processes are part of a labour-intensive
trade system that will benefit from moving to quicker, digitally
based transactions. This will be especially welcomed by SMEs,
which are often affected most by the complexity and associated
costs of trading systems that are heavily paper based. They are
likely to be among the largest beneficiaries of a move to
digitally based transactions. I wish the Bill well through its
further stages.
4.31pm
(LD)
My Lords, when I used to run events to which not many people
turned up, in justifying the occasion, I used to tell my boss,
“The quantity doesn’t matter; the quality of the people is
important.” This debate has demonstrated that and the quality of
the speeches that preceded will indicate how low-quality mine
is—but I will do my best.
I join the chorus of people welcoming the Minister back to his
position. He was hardly gone at all. This in no way disparages
his successor and predecessor, who did a sterling job on the
Product Security and Telecommunications Infrastructure Bill, as I
can personally attest. I wish him well, too.
However, this is a difficult Bill for the Minister because,
although it is cast as a digital Bill, it is turning out largely
to be a trade Bill. I echo the noble Lord, , in saying that some questions
may be answered during the Public Bill Committee, rather than by
the Minister—although noble Lords are always happy to hear his
responses.
These Benches welcome the Bill. On the face of it, it is a
technical Bill that has broad support from the industry. As we
heard, the Government have said that it can bring great
improvements in speed and efficiency, such that it reduces costs
and cuts the environmental impact of trade. As we know, the Law
Commission’s report suggests that the industry generates 4
billion paper documents a year and that the changes could cut the
processing time of these to 20 seconds, which is almost no time
at all. Never mind the carbon and cost reduction; think of the
efficiency and smoothness of this. Getting it right is important
because, as the DIT tells us, international trade is worth more
than £1.4 trillion to the UK.
But there is another, potentially more significant element to
this very slim Bill. It is being viewed by many in the legal
world as the first legislative attempt to solve the “possession
problem”. It seeks to address the idea that the traditional
understanding of what it means to possess something is no longer
adequate in our digital age. The noble Lords, Lord Holmes and
, alluded to that. The
principles of English law that underpin the use of trade
documents are based largely on historical mercantile practices.
Here I have a vision of coffee shops, with Dr Johnson looking on,
as insurance and bills of lading papers march in and out.
Frankly, that was happening and it is what we seek to transpose
with this Bill. Most trade documents rely on physical possession
to be legal and, in this country, there is no legal recognition
of electronic trade documents, which this Bill seeks to fix.
The Explanatory Notes put this well—I put it on record because it
is the nub of the Bill:
“a bill of lading is a document used in the carriage of goods by
sea which, when transferred to a buyer (or any subsequent lawful
holder), gives that holder constructive possession of the goods
described in the bill, and a right to claim delivery of them from
the carrier.”
The document equals the goods, so that is what we seek to
reproduce in electronic form. The way in which the law, as it
stands, treats that permission is premised on the idea that
electronic documents cannot have the same relevant legal
properties as physical pieces of paper—to whit, exclusivity or
the ability to be associated with a single person. However, as we
have heard, technology has now reached a point where electronic
documents can be created which have these properties. I commend
the noble Lord, Lord Holmes, on expertly setting out the
properties, for example, of distributed ledger technology in this
regard although, as he points out, we must remain
technology-neutral in the legislation.
We have also heard that a number of countries have taken steps to
recognise the use of electronic documents as legally valid. The
most obvious example was set out by the noble Viscount and the
noble Lord, : the Model Law on Electronic
Transferable Records, the beautifully named MLETR. This is
supported by major stakeholders such as the International Chamber
of Commerce as an international solution to the possession
problem and, I am told, has been implemented in Bahrain,
Singapore and Abu Dhabi. To be recognised as legally valid under
the MLETR, an electronic document must, through a reliable
method, be capable of being subject to an identifiable person’s
exclusive control. I repeat: a reliable method.
With this backdrop, and at the Government’s behest, the Law
Commission looked at this. The Government have acted on its final
recommendations, made in March 2022, and brought forward this
Bill, which proposes three criteria that electronic trade
documents should be subject to, reflected in Clause 2. I will not
read them out, but they are independent existence, exclusive
control and that the document must be fully divested on
transfer.
As I have said, we support the Bill and its aims. However, it has
implications around solving the possession problem and we think
the committee must focus on that when we discuss it later, as it
will need some careful consideration. For example, in its
consultation response, the law firm Linklaters considered the
issue of control and argued that it is not completely clear
whether the Bill refers to legal or factual control. The Law
Commission proposals suggest the concept of control should be
limited to factual control, but this is not specified in the
Bill. The noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, went into deep technical
detail but there is a high-level issue, alluded to by the noble
Lord, . Linklaters highlights the
practical issues that arise from the requirement that only one
person has control. As we have heard, digital keys can be shared
to multiple people, so restrictions on sharing could exclude much
of the existing technology for moving documents around.
Requirements for verification may interfere with the concept of
control, especially if this is done through third parties. The
committee should also consider this.
As has been said, the Bill does not establish
“what constitutes possession of an electronic trade document”
so it seems to us that the concept of control—and, through that,
possession—needs to be more tightly defined. In the end, this
Bill’s scrutiny should aim to establish whether the aim of
ensuring that paper and electronic documents achieve “equivalent”
effect has been achieved.
This Bill is almost identical to the draft Bill from the Law
Commission with two obvious exceptions. First, in Clause 5,
“Exceptions”, the Law Commission made explicit reference to
bearer bonds being exempt from the Bill. This is not referenced
in the Government’s Bill; rather, Clause 5(2)(b) says that the
Secretary of State can exempt document types by regulations. Why
is there this variation between the Bill and what came from the
Law Commission?
Secondly, this Bill also varies from the Law Commission’s in the
extent that it applies. The Minister referred to this in his
opening speech. The Law Commission consultation applied to
England and Wales, whereas this Bill applies across the whole of
the United Kingdom. The Explanatory Notes state that
“DCMS, in discussion with the Territorial Offices and Devolved
Administrations, has extended the extent of the Bill to the whole
of the UK.”
The Minister referred to discussions with Scotland, but I do not
think that he mentioned Northern Ireland, so I am interested in
how that fits. The Scottish law officers said that Scottish law
differs from the law of England with respect to possession, so
how will the differences in the approaches of the two countries’
laws on possession be covered by this one Bill?
In his opening speech, the Minister talked about the traceability
and transparency afforded by digital documentation. I draw a
parallel between digital money and cash as an example. However,
this sets a number of hares running, because it clearly offers
great opportunities for HMRC and indeed law enforcement agencies.
How does the Minister see the traceability and transparency to
which he referred working? Surely those wishing to conceal what
they were doing would continue to operate with paper
documentation, so I wonder how far forward we would really
get.
As I draw to a close, I would like to address how this Act will
be implemented. Like the noble Lord, Lord Holmes, I hope and
trust that it quickly becomes law. The Bill allows for documents
to be converted between paper and electronic forms, which is key
as international trade requires reciprocal recognition of
documents and different jurisdictions will recognise electronic
documents to varying extents. What consultation are the
Government doing internationally to encourage other countries to
implement the recognition of electronic documents?
This Bill also presents the potential, as we have heard, for huge
cost reduction and environmental benefit, but that is dependent
on take-up of digital trade documents. The Minister said that
there was potential for £3.6 billion of savings, but that relied
on 50% of documents going from paper to digital. What plans do
the Government have to advertise this change to business and to
help business to take it on? Will the Government monitor the use
of digital documents to see how take-up is going, and will they
be able to make an assessment of whether further changes are
needed to encourage future take-up?
Finally, this is a legislative attempt, as I have said, to solve
the “possession problem”. While there is a narrow focus on trade
documents in this Bill, it may—and, I think, should—inform
government thinking on wider policy in relation to digital
assets. In November 2019 the UK Jurisdiction Taskforce published
its Legal Statement on Cryptoassets and Smart Contractsand
suggested that crypto assets should be treated as property under
English law. This principle has since been underlined in case
law, but the law is not comprehensive and is still grappling with
the particular issues raised by digital assets.
The Law Commission launched a separate consultation on proposals
to ensure that the law recognises and protects digital assets in
a digitised world. That consultation closed last week, on Friday
4 November. When can we look forward to the results being
published? Can the Minister tell us whether it is the
Government’s view that this Bill sets a precedent for how future
law will cover the possession of crypto assets? I look forward to
the Minister’s response and to Committee stage.
4.45pm
(Lab)
My Lords, like all other Members of this Committee I welcome the
Minister back to this modest piece of legislation, although it
has a truly massive import, as all previous speakers have said
today. I have drawn one or two points from their comments.
The noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, made the point that this was a
major innovation in legislation and an important part of a jigsaw
that needs to fall into place if we are to ensure that our place
in the trading world is maintained. The noble Viscount asked four
important questions; I shall listen for the answers to them with
great interest. As he said, this is part of an exciting journey
and one which we obviously need to follow closely. I was deeply
impressed by his contribution and that of the noble Lord, , who accurately described it
as an important framework Bill—that is what it is, at seven pages
long. With his enormous experience in international trade, I am
sure that he will focus laser-like attention on it when we get to
Committee. The major issue that he identified was
interoperability, which is key to what we are trying to achieve
here. Overcoming obstacles around that will be extremely
important.
I was grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Holmes, for his comments
because he brought the debate into the real world when he said
that the Bill could achieve something like 5% savings in
transaction costs. In itself, that does not sound like an
enormous amount, but when you think about the value of
international trade it is vast. Another important point that he
made was about the environmental benefits that this legislation
could bring. I think we are all very conscious of those now, but
he also talked about the importance of accountability and
transparency and we, too, on our Benches, very much share
that.
The noble Earl, Lord Lindsay, made the important point that SMEs
will be the big beneficiaries from this. That is without doubt or
question, because clearly it is of enormous advantage to an SME
when its transaction costs are reduced and ability to trade
speedily is very much underlined. The noble Lord, , talked about the Bill being
technical, and it is, but the big problem it has to solve is that
of possession. We should all focus on that.
The Labour Benches fully support the introduction of the Bill. We
see it as a long overdue reform, which allows for the legal
recognition of certain types of documents used in trade and trade
finance in electronic form. This will finally mean that parties
can use the law that currently applies to paper trade documents
when transacting with electronic trade documents.
As we know, the Law Commission does invaluable work in advising
on the reform of long outdated legislation. Despite the size and
sophistication of the international trade market, many of its
processes, and underlying legislation, are based on practices and
frameworks developed by the nation’s merchants hundreds of years
ago. It is the Bill’s intention that electronic trade documents,
when capable of possession, should be treated in law in a manner
equivalent to their paper counterparts—a simple notion but one
that is obviously complex to implement.
The Bill represents for us a most welcome opportunity to further
modernise trade transactions. In theory, it should speed up
transactions and bring business into the modern world, where
electronic interactivity is commonplace. The Law Commission
report said that
“there is an existing set of complex private international law
rules that determine which courts have jurisdiction over a
dispute, and which country’s laws should be applied to resolve it
… these rules are complex and fact specific”.
It then said that electronic trade documents may give rise to
“novel issues … that require further consideration”.
For instance, it continued, there are “inherent difficulties” in
ascertaining “the geographical location” of digital assets,
including electronic trade documents. Similarly
“questions may arise as to how an electronic trade document
issued in England and Wales would be treated by a country that
does not recognise the validity of electronic trade
documents”.
The Law Commission also recommended that private international
law aspects of electronic trade documents should be dealt with in
a separate commission project that deals with digital assets more
broadly as part of its 14th programme of law reform. I think it
was supposed to be completed in mid-2022. Can the Minister advise
on what steps will be taken in the meantime to mitigate issues
that may arise affecting the operation of trade transactions? Can
the Minister undertake to report back to Parliament on the
operation of the provisions within a year of the date on which
the Act is implemented?
We on our Benches believe it is important that parliamentarians
are kept advised of progress in this field. I have nothing much
more to add, except that we thank the Law Commission for its
critical work on the Bill which we see as largely uncontroversial
and of great value in ensuring that the world of trade and
commerce operates smoothly and efficiently as possible and that
UK businesses are not disadvantaged in any way. This Bill eases
those processes and transactions that we need for us to continue
to be competitive in a highly competitive world of trade.
4.51pm
of Whitley Bay (Con)
My Lords, I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have
contributed to today’s debate, including my noble friend Lord
Lindsay, who spoke in the gap. As the noble Lord, , rightly said, it is quality not
quantity that counts. I am glad that noble Lords who took part
were unanimous that although the Bill may be small its potential
impact is significant.
In my opening remarks I touched on that transformative impact,
and I am keen to emphasise the elegant way that the Bill achieves
its goal. It is a simple Bill, although I hesitate to use that
word because a great deal of consideration and work has gone into
making it so. My noble friend is right to pay
tribute by name to some of the people who have been involved in
that important work. The Bill achieves what it sets out to do in
a minimalistic way. As the noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, said,
it is also an enabling Bill which leaves people free to sign up
to use it if they wish. The opportunity it presents to bring
trade law up to date is immense.
English law underpins the laws of global trade, and all eyes will
be on us in the UK as we take this legislation forward. As the
noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, said, the benefits will be there
for others to accrue beyond these shores. The objective of the
Bill is for the UK to take the lead in setting an international
standard for how electronic trade documents can be defined and
recognised under domestic law with the intention that other
jurisdictions will adopt similar laws. The more that other
countries harmonise their domestic laws to recognise electronic
trade documents, the less it will matter whether UK law and this
Bill in particular apply, and that is the case with paper trade
documents today.
I am grateful to my noble friend for highlighting some of the
areas that he intends to probe in the Special Public Bill
Committee. He is right that the Bill requires that scrutiny
there.
I will deal with some of the questions that were raised. I hope
it will be useful. I will, of course, look to see whether it is
worth writing on further points ahead of the Special Public Bill
Committee, although I would be grateful to noble Lords for
recognising that that is the place to go into some of the deeper
detail. I am always happy to speak to noble Lords ahead of that
committee if it would be useful.
I agree with my noble friend Lord Holmes that there are many
opportunities for technological solutions. One of the underlying
principles of the Bill is that it is technology neutral. It would
run counter to the objectives of the Bill if it were to prescribe
or mandate a particular electronic trade document system. That
would be likely to stifle innovation and risk excluding
participants on the basis that their system does not satisfy the
Bill’s requirements. The Bill does not specify what constitutes a
reliable system or mandate a particular type of system. Rather it
sets out various factors that a court may take into account when
determining reliability. The Bill therefore offers some guidance
on how to assess the reliability of electronic systems. We have
been working closely with industry, which is developing standards
to ensure reliability and verifiable authentication of electronic
trade documents.
(LD)
One issue that is worth investigating further is who is the
arbiter of reliability when it comes down to a system. Is it the
buyer, the seller, a third party or some accreditation body that
says it is reliable?
of Whitley Bay (Con)
If I may, I will accept the noble Lord’s invitation to look at
this in Committee because it is worthy of the deeper scrutiny
that that affords.
A number of noble Lords understandably referred to the United
Nations Commission on International Trade Law, or UNCITRAL, and
its Model Law on Electronic Transferable Records, or MLETR, which
is the international attempt to provide a legal framework for
electronic trade documentation that can be adapted and adopted by
individual jurisdictions. In developing its recommendations for
reform, the Law Commission was particularly cognisant of this
model law. The recommendations have been developed with a keen
awareness of it, aligning with it where possible and integrating
its spirit and objectives into the particularities of the law of
the UK. As such, the provisions of the Bill are broadly
compatible with the MLETR, but are drafted to cater for the
nuances and specificities of UK law.
For example, the Bill expressly and clearly provides that
electronic trade documents are capable of possession, while the
MLETR provides that control is a functional equivalent to the
fact of possession. It is clearer and more direct to extend the
application of the concept of possession itself, rather than to
use control as a functional equivalent to the fact of possession.
That is something that the noble Lord, , touched on in his remarks about
restrictions on control.
Within this Bill, control is a question of fact, as reflected by
Clause 2(3)(a), which did not feature in the Law Commission’s
draft Bill. The Bill does not define possession; it is a common
law concept, which is highly flexible. Again, noble Lords will
want to discuss this area in Committee, but the Law Commission’s
advice, based on extensive research and consultation, is that it
would be difficult, if not impossible, to set out in legislation
what constitutes possession of an electronic trade document
because possession is a fact-specific concept that has always
been notoriously difficult to define in abstract terms.
Furthermore, it would be impractical to frame legislation to
cover the full range of possible solutions that could arise in
relation to possessing electronic trade documents, particularly
given the potential for technology to develop and give rise to
different forms of control and therefore possession. I look
forward to discussing this in greater detail in Committee.
The noble Lord, , asked about the territorial
extent of the Bill, particularly in relation to Northern Ireland.
The Bill is intended to apply UK-wide, as the issues concerning
the legal blocker to possessing electronic documents are broadly
the same. Apart from the provision in Clause 3(4), which extends
only to Scotland and relates to the interaction between the Bill
and the Moveable Transactions (Scotland) Bill, the Bill extends
UK-wide. It is reserved in relation to Northern Ireland on the
basis that the Bill deals with the reserved matter of trade with
any place outside the United Kingdom. We have agreed with
officials in the Northern Ireland Executive that the legislative
consent Motion process is not therefore engaged.
(LD)
Is this Bill compatible with the Northern Ireland protocol? Is it
compatible with the unique position that Northern Ireland has
within the United Kingdom in having an open border with the
EU?
of Whitley Bay (Con)
We do not expect the Bill to have any impact on the operation of
the Northern Ireland protocol. It is a measure to digitise
business-to-business trade documents. It will allow businesses to
use electronic trade documents when buying and selling
internationally, and the benefits will be realised irrespective
of whether trade is internal to the UK market or is global.
The noble Lord, , also asked some further
questions about other jurisdictions. DCMS and the Department for
International Trade agreed the digital economy agreement with
Singapore, which includes a memorandum of understanding that put
in place a pilot project to explore and text the interoperability
of electronic trade documents.
The noble Viscount, Lord Waverley, asked about digital ID and
e-signatures. I certainly agree that digital signatures and
digital ID are areas that would benefit from harmonisation. As
noble Lords stated, this Bill is merely the first foundational
step towards digitisation and interoperability. The Bill is very
specific in removing the legal blocker to possession of
electronic trade documents; that really is its core purpose. We
want to remove an obstacle for UK businesses that trade
internationally. In giving electronic trade documents legal
effect, we can unlock their current and future potential.
I will of course consult the Official Report of the debate to see
whether there are any further points on which it might be useful
to follow up before Committee. I look forward to the further
scrutiny that this modest but important Bill will receive then. I
am very grateful to noble Lords for their remarks and the
questions that they have raised today.
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