Mr Clive Betts (Sheffield South East) (Lab) I beg to move, That
this House has considered the future funding of urban transport.
This is an important subject, Mr Sharma, and there is an awful lot
to say about it. Looking around the Chamber, it looks like I have
about an hour to say it in, although I will not take that amount of
time. I have been interested in the subject for an awfully long
time. I will cover buses and light rail, in particular looking at
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(Sheffield South East)
(Lab)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the future funding of urban
transport.
This is an important subject, Mr Sharma, and there is an awful
lot to say about it. Looking around the Chamber, it looks like I
have about an hour to say it in, although I will not take that
amount of time. I have been interested in the subject for an
awfully long time. I will cover buses and light rail, in
particular looking at the mayoral combined authority areas. I
thank the Urban Transport Group and the mayoral authority in the
South Yorkshire region for their briefings.
Public transport is more important for certain groups in the
population than for others, such as people on low incomes. An
interesting figure, given that we sort of think that everyone has
a car—these days, some families have several cars, looking at the
parking challenges on some estates—is that, for those whose
incomes are in the lowest quintile, 45% of families do not have
access to a car. That is almost half of families in that
quintile. Older people often do not drive anymore, and the
concessionary fare scheme is important for them. The group that
is sometimes forgotten about is young people. Young children can
go with their parents, but when kids get into their teenage
years, they want a bit of independence. They are either not old
enough to drive or do not have a car, so public transport can be
important for them as well.
What sort of journeys are involved? Public transport is important
for all sorts of journeys, such as getting to work—again,
particularly for young people in lower-paid jobs—and for people
trying to find a job. Another interesting figure is that 77% of
job seekers do not have access to a car and 85% of job seekers in
the 18-to-24 age group do not have access to a car. To get a job,
people need a good public transport system to reach the right
place for an interview or whatever.
Public transport is important not just for work but for how
people run their lives. Many people need transport to get to a
shop, in which case they need it to be easily accessible, or to
visit friends and family. I have talked to people about the fact
that when a husband or wife goes into a care home after living
together for years, they pick a care home on a bus route that
they can get to. The problem comes when the bus route changes and
they cannot get there anymore—that is another challenge. There
are also people who normally use a car but want to go out for a
meal or drink and to do it safely. Public transport is important
in all those cases.
The Mayor of the Sheffield city region, Dan Jarvis—I pay credit
to Dan, because he takes the issue particularly seriously and he
will be stepping down in May—asked me to review bus services in
Sheffield about three or four years ago. We set up a bus
commission, and I got a number of local people, representatives
of the public, the unions and the private sector, and national
transport experts to look at the situation.
We saw a bus service that was basically in decline. It was a
spiral of decline: services got cut, so few people used them, so
more services got cut. It was a journey to the bottom, that is
all. We had complaints about frequency, as services got less;
about services being removed altogether at weekends and evenings;
about lack of connectivity as people could get from A to B, but
often had to go via C and D; and about frequent route changes.
That takes us back to the problem of the elderly person in a care
home or someone who has just got a job only to find six months
later that the bus route that gets them there at 7 o’clock in the
morning to start their shift disappears. Those are really
frustrating things, and of course, reliability is a problem. As
more people use their cars and there is more congestion, the
reliability of public transport gets worse.
We made a lot of recommendations. I will not go into them all
now, or I probably will be here for the next hour, but the
essence of them was some quick wins, which the combined authority
has brought in—such as a scheme of cheaper fares for young people
to encourage them on to public transport and recognise the
particular challenges for them over the last few years with covid
and the effects of austerity beforehand—as well as the need to
look ahead to enhanced partnership and a route through to
franchising, if that was decided to be the best way forward. We
appreciate the powers that Government have given to mayoral
combined authorities, which we think should probably be extended
automatically to other authorities to enable them to move to
franchising if that is appropriate.
We also looked at funding, which is a major problem. We talk
about levelling up, but figures show that Government spending on
buses per head in London is £75, and in Sheffield it is £5. That
is quite a big difference. Passenger numbers have changed over
the past 10 years, with numbers in the Sheffield city region
dropping from 150 million to 92 million—a 21% fall in 10 years.
It is a spiral of cuts and inadequate funding to support buses.
The Campaign for Better Transport has estimated that Government
funding for buses in England fell by 43% in real terms over that
10-year period, so that is a big fall. A big difference between
funding for London and for areas such as Sheffield creates major
challenges with declining bus ridership, which, of course, means
less income coming in to the operators, to which they respond
with more cuts.
The bus review set out what we should do, then covid hit. I
appreciate that covid has disrupted an awful lot, both at local
and national level, and I say to the Minister that we welcome the
Government support provided throughout that period. We would not
have any bus services left without it, because at one point
during the initial restrictions, passenger numbers dropped to 10%
of what they were before covid. The support that has been
provided, both for buses and for light rail, has been
welcome.
Even now, passenger numbers on bus and light rail in the
Sheffield city region are only back to 75% of what they were
before covid, so 25% is still missing. That fall in passenger
numbers is mainly down to older people still being concerned
about travelling and the change in office working, with fewer
people travelling into the office. The drop in Sheffield is
actually bigger than the drop in, say, Doncaster, because there
are more offices in Sheffield. We can see the figures. One
question for the Minister is, what happens in September? We are
looking at another cliff edge. If the covid funding, which is
welcome, disappears—it has been given only until September—what
happens? Those numbers will not to recover to 100% of what they
were before covid, if at all—we do not know about office working
and things—and certainly not by September. There are some really
big challenges.
Bus passenger numbers were declining prior to covid and now we
have an even lower number of passengers, so what is the funding
requirement? Clearly, the amount of money that the Government
will have to provide in order to even stabilise the system, not
improve it, is greater now than it was before covid, because we
are in a worse position. Areas with light rail systems have an
even bigger challenge, because the fixed costs of light rail
cannot be dispensed with. The network is there—the rails, the
stations, the trams and everything else. The fixed costs are
there, and if there is no recognition of that, not only will the
sustainability of light rail become a major challenge but, if
authorities keep their light rail systems running, they will have
to cut their bus service funding even more, so there are real
issues around that.
We welcome the concept of the Government’s Bus Back Better. It is
a good phrase and there are some really good statements from the
Government in the national bus strategy, such as
“we want main road services in cities and towns to run so often
that you don’t need a timetable.”
I say tongue in cheek, Mr Sharma, that people will not need a
timetable in some places soon because the situation is so serious
that there will not be any buses to have a timetable for. It goes
on:
“We want better services in the evenings and at weekends”.
Many places do not have them now, but the coming cuts, which I
will say more about, will make the situation even worse.
The bus strategy is right that we need more buses and more
passengers on buses, as well as
“dramatically increased passenger numbers, reduced congestion,
carbon and pollution”.
Improving public transport and getting more people on to buses
and light rail is good for congestion; for the climate change
agenda, because the number of people on travelling on a bus is
the same as the number in several cars so less carbon dioxide is
emitted; and for pollution, because it means less nitrogen
dioxide. We should not forget about NO2, the silent killer, which
is more damaging to children than anyone else because it sinks
and children breathe the air at a lower level. Those are real
issues, and it is right that the Government have sought to focus
on them.
I mentioned levelling up, and accessibility of public transport
is a levelling-up issue. People with lower incomes and more
poorly paid jobs tend to be concentrated to a greater extent in
some of our urban areas, where levelling up is needed. The
Government’s initial approach was to offer a £3 billion
programme. Some of the money has come in through the sustainable
transport scheme. The Sheffield city region has had £570 million,
which is not all for buses. There is a bit for light rail and
some for road schemes as well; I question how those schemes fall
under the sustainable transport remit, but that was the bid that
was put in and accepted. The city region has bid for £450 million
from the bus service improvement plan. Will the Minister tell us
how much money is left in the BSIP programme and when we will
find out what has been allocated? We were told there was £3
billion but now we hear it will be only £1.2 billion or £1.3
billion because the Government have taken the money that they
spent on covid support off the £3 billion. The total amount of
money is the same, but the covid support has been taken off that
meaning less than half the original amount is left for the BSIP
programme.
I say to Ministers that we have to get away from the
pots-of-money approach. We made that point to the Secretary of
State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities, who basically
agreed with it, and to the Minister for Levelling Up—he got it as
well—at the recent session of the Select Committee on Levelling
Up, Housing and Communities. Local authorities have 130 different
pots of money, not just for transport, for which they have to
make a bid to Government. That is ridiculous. We need to provide
a more sustainable and joined-up approach to long-term
funding.
Partnerships are happening in many areas. All MCAs have now moved
to enhanced partnerships, as required by the Government in order
to bid for BSIP and secure long-term funding. That is a good
approach, but signing up to an agreement for partnership does not
stop cuts being made. Bus operators, particularly First Bus in
Sheffield, are already planning cuts in services, even with the
enhanced partnerships and Government funding. Some have been
announced in the last few months and more are proposed.
Operators have said that if Government funding stops in
September, about a third of services will be cut. That is a
massive, almost unimaginable number. It destroys the whole
framework of the network, which we simply cannot allow to happen.
Operators are looking at taking out some routes completely,
removing evening and weekend services, where they exist, and
reducing frequency, which will simply lead to another spiral of
decline. I say to the Minister that whatever methods are
used—enhanced partnerships, franchising or whatever—there cannot
be any improvement from the current situation unless there is
more money in the system. Without that, it simply will not work.
Local councils are strapped for cash and they will not find those
sorts of resources. There are challenges about whether Mayors
should have a levy on council tax, which is worth discussing—that
is what greater Manchester has done. However, in the end, the
Government have to step up. It is no use giving London-type
powers to urban areas outside London if they do not also have
London-type resources. That is the real bottom line.
Light rail almost gets forgotten about. I do not know if anyone
at the Department is really interested in light rail, as it does
not seem to be mentioned very often. It is a clean, green form of
transport. However, if we compare the light rail systems in our
country with what is on offer in other European cities, we see
that we are behind the game by many years. That is not a party
political point; I put it on the record that we did not do enough
as the Labour Government. We did not do enough on bus franchising
either. None of that is party political; Governments have not
recognised the importance of the subject.
My hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Brightside and
Hillsborough (), who is Opposition
spokesperson today, will know that we had a good Supertram system
developed in Sheffield and built at the beginning of the 1990s. I
am almost tempted not to mention this, but I will: we approved it
when I was leader of Sheffield City Council, many years ago, and
I am really pleased about that. However, there has not been an
extra mile laid since then. I am sorry—a few hundred yards have
been laid for the Tram Train into Rotherham. Leeds, just up the
road, is a major city but it does not have a light rail system.
We are so far behind the curve. Manchester has done very well,
with great credit due for that. One or two other cities have also
started to develop systems, but overall there simply is not
enough funding. Light rail needs Government support and the
Government must decide if they want a long-term plan for capital
investment in it.
I will mention the Tram Train again, because a pilot from
Sheffield to Rotherham has been running for more than three years
and is very successful. It is a great credit to the then
Transport Minister, the hon. Member for Harrogate and
Knaresborough () that, when the scheme was
going pear shaped because of Network Rail’s incompetence—there is
an National Audit Office report to prove that—he stepped in and
said, “Yes, although the cost of the scheme has trebled, it is
worth it to show that the system works.” It does work. It has
been working in Karlsruhe in Germany for nearly 30 years and it
is not surprising that light-rail vehicles can run on a
heavy-rail system—it works.
What is the plan to roll light rail out across the country? We
are looking at Beeching restoration services now; there is one
from Sheffield to Barrow Hill, through my constituency. We are
arguing very strongly for train stations at Beighton and Waverley
in the Rotherham constituency next door, and the hon. Member for
North East Derbyshire () is supporting the extension. Instead of running the
heavy rail line into Sheffield Midland station, it should run
into the centre of Sheffield with a Tram Train service. That
would get people out of their cars and get rid of the congestion
we get on the parkway going to Sheffield. We should use the heavy
rail network, which is already there, to put trams on the system
at no cost and to connect it better to our urban centres. That
can be done all over the country. There are opportunities for
that out in Stocksbridge, in the north of Sheffield, that we can
look at as well.
There are real possibilities and challenges, but it comes down to
how we will fund and deliver the Government’s agenda. I have a
number of asks for the Minister. Will the Government set out
their strategy for public transport in our urban areas?
Developing on where we reached with the national bus strategy,
are the Government still committed to those objectives in
principle and will they set out a way to deliver them in the long
term? If they are committed, will the Government set out how that
should be funded? There is no use having grand ambitions about
not having to look at a timetable for buses on the main road, or
having great evening and weekend services, if there is no money.
It is words and nothing else. Words are no help to someone
waiting at a bus stop for a bus that may be coming in an hour’s
time that either does not turn up or, if it does, it turns out
that their connection to another place has been removed so they
cannot get to where they want to go without an awful lot of
effort. In the end, they will not bother going, or they will get
in their car, get someone to give them a lift or get a taxi out
of frustration.
If we are serious about this, we have to have clear funding
commitments. Will responsibility for that now be given to local
transport authorities? We have elected a mayor—will they be given
the powers and resources to do this? It is absolutely clear from
the levelling-up agenda that local mayors have to be able to join
up their approach to transport with their approaches to home
building, delivery of skills and industrial development. Areas
need a joined-up approach to economic strategy.
Mayors can do it, but Government never will. It would require
several Departments getting together. I remember going to
Manchester and talking to business leaders some years ago, as
Manchester was pioneering the move towards greater localism and
local democracy. Business leaders said, “We don’t always agree
with the councillors and council leaders, but at least we know
where they are. We can go and talk to them. If they have the
power to do something, we can have that discussion. If Government
have the power, we have to go down and visit civil servants in
more than one Department and hope that they might be talking to
each other, which isn’t always the case.” Therefore devolution of
those powers is absolutely key.
Will the Government speed up the franchising process? We have
seen how long Manchester, which pioneered it, has taken to go
through the process—Manchester is committed, but it has taken
forever. It is better than the previous effort, in the Local
Transport Act 2008, under which Nexus tried to get franchising in
the north-east and was stopped in the courts. It is better than
it was, but it is not as simple as it should be.
If the Government really want to give those powers, they should
enable them to be used more speedily. As part of that funding
commitment, will the Government estimate what it will cost to
bring franchising in? There are significant upfront costs, which
Manchester has already identified. If we are going to use
franchising to improve services, there will be a cost.
Franchising is not a magic bullet that once fired makes
everything alright overnight. It is a good way to deliver bus
services in a strategic, co-ordinated, organised and integrated
way, but it is not cost-free. We ought to recognise that.
Let us have a plan for light rail. The Government need to
seriously say that it is a way forward. It is a clean, green form
of transport, and it should be linked to cleaner, greener buses
as well. Although I did not need much reminding, the Minister
reminded me that, alongside light rail, we need to have greener
buses as a green form of transport—and not just electric buses,
but green hydrogen buses. ITM Power in my constituency delivers
the green hydrogen—there are different sorts of hydrogen—that is
needed to power the bus fleets of the future. It is already doing
the refuelling station for Birmingham’s hydrogen buses. We ought
to encourage that across the country. I welcome the Government’s
zero-emission bus regional areas, or ZEBRA, initiatives and the
money being given for electric buses, but where is the commitment
to a programme for hydrogen buses as well?
We need strategies for light rail and greener buses, but also
tram-trains. We have a pilot that works—what is the point of a
pilot unless we get encouragement to roll it out across the
country? Many heavy rail networks are underused or, in some
cases, unused. We do not have to redo the lines; they are there.
We can run hybrid trams on them, so we do not necessarily have to
install electric wires for all of them. They can be run partly on
the electric system and partly on other fuels, once they get out
into slightly less urban areas.
I hope I have indicated a lot of the challenges. There has been a
real litany of problems—almost disasters—in the last few years,
with decline and demoralisation in the sector. Covid has been a
massive challenge, and the Government stepped up to the plate
there. However, unless authorities are supported in the future,
with a clear strategy from Government and commitments to
long-term funding, we will be back here in two or three years’
time waging the same fight because the spiral of decline has
continued; so many people in this country who rely on buses have
been left without them; congestion has got worse; we have done
nothing to tackle climate change; and we have done nothing to
tackle pollution either.
1.54pm
(Paisley and Renfrewshire
North) (SNP)
It is a pleasure to see you in the Chair, Mr Sharma. I thank the
hon. Member for Sheffield South East (Mr Betts) for securing
today’s debate on a really important issue. I stayed down to make
sure I spoke in this debate because it is such an important
issue. I am sorry it has not had the support that it
merits—perhaps Members are demob happy on the last day before
recess. Nevertheless, the hon. Member managed to cover the whole
range of issues in his speech, so he made up for the fact that
nobody else is here to speak in the debate.
The hon. Member said that 45% of those in the lowest income
quintile do not have access to a car, which is something we often
forget. Outside London, that represents a real restriction on
people’s mobility, freedom and opportunity to secure a job. He
spoke about cheaper bus fares for young people. He might be
interested to know that as of the start of this year people under
the age of 22 can travel for free on buses in Scotland, which is
an excellent new policy, not least because I have two daughters
who can take advantage of that scheme and not have to be ferried
around by mum and dad so much.
I do not plan to highlight too much more of the hon. Member’s
speech, simply because he gave it just a second ago, but he did
speak of the importance of devolving transport powers, which I
will speak to.
Urban areas account for over half of the UK’s overall carbon
dioxide emissions. If the UK Government are to meet their own
target of reaching net zero by 2050, it is critical that towns
and cities are equipped and funded properly to renew and
transform their transport systems from the fossil fuel-based
networks in place at the moment to zero emission and low-impact
structures. Sadly, the Government’s record so far does not
inspire confidence that that key part of the transition is a
priority. The Minister, who in my opinion has one of the best
jobs in government—I am quite jealous—has a hard task in being
able to do the job properly and secure the required funding,
because decarbonising transport is a mammoth task. I do not think
she will enjoy much of my speech, so I give her that warning at
the start, although she probably expected it.
Colleagues—certainly the Minister—will have heard me outline the
Scottish Government’s transformational plans for active travel. I
make no apologies for bringing them up again because they show
the kind of ambition that is needed from the Department for
Transport here in London. The active travel budget in Scotland
will rise over the next three years to account for 10% of the
overall transport budget, bringing the annual investment to at
least £320 million a year—in UK terms, over £3 billion a
year.
This year alone will see a 37% increase on last year, and within
two years we will have seen a threefold increase in the active
travel budget, representing £60 per person per year. The DFT’s
plans amount to £2 billion over the next five years, which works
out at just over £7 per person per year of active travel. The
difference is utterly stark. Indeed, by 2024-25, Scotland, with
less than a tenth of the population, will be within touching
distance of what England spends on active travel. That represents
a lack of ambition and an absence of vision. If we are serious
about meeting net zero targets, we need game changers across
society, and we need to ensure that in urban areas, where, in
Scotland, 70% of our population lives, citizens are given real
options for that change.
This is not just about the national and global picture. Members
from nearly every constituency can see the tough time that our
high streets are having. A combination of the pandemic, an
increase in online shopping, and the hollowing out of household
income over the last decade has left our town centres hanging by
a thread. Supporting active travel and the idea of 20-minute
neighbourhoods in Scotland can also give a boost to town centres,
encourage more local spending, and give local authorities a more
sustainable income stream generated by flourishing local
businesses. Buying and selling locally also helps to cut carbon
emissions, creating a virtuous circle that gets even more bang
for our bucks.
Active travel is key to that change, but on the evidence so far
the ambition from the Treasury and the Department for Transport
simply is not there. I genuinely hope to be proved wrong in that
respect. As has been said already, buses are fundamental to urban
transport. There are nearly 40,000 buses in use on Britain’s
roads but they need to be replaced, not only as part of the
switch to zero-emission vehicles but to provide a more attractive
service to people considering changing from private
transport.
I have lost count of the number of times that I have asked the
Department for Transport for figures on buses, in particular how
many of the 4,000 zero-emission buses promised through the ZEBRA
scheme are actually on the road, transporting passengers and
contributing today to reducing emissions. The Prime Minister
promised those 4,000 buses by the end of this Parliament, which
at the very most is less than three years away, although if we
believe the chairman of the Conservative party it might be only a
year down the road. At the current rate, however, there is zero
chance that the Prime Minister’s pledge will be met and that
simply is not good enough. It is letting down the residents of
towns and cities across England yet again.
The truth is that six months after the Prime Minister made his
pledge on 4,000 buses, the Scottish Government have got on with
delivering. Their Scottish ultra-low emission bus scheme, or
SULEBS, delivered 272 buses, and just four weeks ago the
Transport Minister, , announced the first phase
of the £62 million zero-emission bus challenge fund, or ScotZEB,
for a further 276 buses. That is 548 buses delivered or ordered
in Scotland, which is the equivalent of nearly 5,500 buses in
England. To my mind, that is incredible progress given the
challenges of the last few years and the budget pressures that
have been forced on Scotland by Westminster.
Despite the long-awaited but very welcome recent announcement of
the ZEBRA funding for 943 buses, which the Minister will probably
touch on, that is—according to the Government’s own data on the
website that accompanied that announcement—only 1,678 buses since
the pledge was made. Scotland has delivered 327% more
zero-emission buses in this Parliament than England and we are
far from finished.
There should be no reason why the DFT is lagging so badly behind
the Scottish Government. We have broadly the same goals; we both
drive on the left. To my mind, therefore, something has gone
badly wrong for the DFT, or perhaps, in fairness, more likely
with the Treasury. I hope that the Minister will ask searching
questions of her Department but she will more likely have to ask
them of her Treasury colleagues, because at the moment the
Government are just not delivering on the pledge that the Prime
Minister made.
The situation in England is an indictment of the lack of urgency
that seems to pervade the DFT’s attitude to the kind of
transformational change that is required if the net zero targets,
both in transport and more generally, are to be met at a UK
level. That attitude has been perfectly demonstrated by the
priority of the Treasury when it comes to funding local bus
services; as has been mentioned, the Treasury’s priority has been
to slash those services. The UK Government’s Bus Back Better
strategy, complete with a fairly gushing foreword by the Prime
Minister in which he boasted of his love of buses, might as well
have been stuck in the shredder just months after it was
published, because local authorities were told earlier this year
that their budget pot would be slashed.
We know that urban areas are more dependent on public charging
points for electric vehicles, which is down simply to the
different balance of housing stock in more built-up areas. That
situation requires local and national Government to raise their
game to ramp up the installation of public chargers radically. I
am pleased that Scotland is leading the way. Outside Greater
London, we have the highest number of charging points per head of
any part of these isles, including double the number of rapid
chargers per capita that England has.
However, we cannot transition to a future without combustion
engine vehicles by leaving flat-dwellers and anyone without a
driveway with no route to switch to electric. In Scotland, 36% of
people live in a flat, but in Edinburgh that figure rises to 64%,
in Glasgow to 71% and in Dundee to 50%. That pattern is broadly
similar across England and Wales. We cannot end the sale of
carbon-fuelled cars in the coming years without making sure that
urban areas have their public charging network properly designed
and properly funded.
The National Infrastructure Commission review found that 300,000
public charging points were needed ahead of 2030. Currently, only
35,000 are in use. Norway, with a population only one twelfth
that of the UK, has around 17,000, so we urgently need rapid
expansion of the charging network if the NIC’s target is to be
met, and that expansion is particularly needed in built-up
areas.
The Transport Committee, of which I am a member, recently
published its report on road pricing. It is clear that as
internal combustion engines are phased out, a new way of
collecting revenue will be needed, because fuel duty and vehicle
excise duty will dwindle to zero under the current system. That
sea change in financing, on which I think the debate is just
beginning, must also apply to local and regional transport
funding. Frankly, it is unacceptable that an organisation such as
Transport for the North can see its core funding slashed by 35%
at the whim of the DFT.
Local and regional authorities need long-term certainty in their
funding streams and, given the types of capital-intensive work
that they want to carry out, annual budgets cannot be turned on
and off like a tap whenever the Treasury is feeling under the
cosh. Urban renewal and the net zero transition are huge
long-term projects, and the bodies responsible for delivering
them on the ground need the long-term certainty on where the
money to pay for them is coming from.
We saw that with the Tyne and Wear Metro, with nearly 40-year-old
rolling stock replaced only when the Chancellor signed off on the
funding. Up until that point, the transport authority could not
be sure whether the trains—built when Jim Callaghan was Prime
Minister—would be replaced any time soon. That is no way for
transport investment to be carried out. Local authorities need
certainty in the medium-to-long term on how the renewal
investment will be funded—whether through raising revenue locally
or national Government cash.
To conclude, as with so much that is sub-optimal in the UK, the
over-centralisation of power through a single Government
Department is hindering towns and cities across the country and
our ability to meet the challenges of the coming decades. Getting
the Treasury to release its grip and devolve power to towns,
cities, metropolitan areas, and the devolved Administrations, is
fundamental to allowing local decision makers to build the
transport networks of the 21st century. The dead hand of
Whitehall is holding millions of people back, and it is high time
that the Government accepted that.
2.06pm
(Sheffield, Brightside and
Hillsborough) (Lab)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairpersonship, Mr Sharma.
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield South East
(Mr Betts), from a neighbouring constituency, on securing today’s
important debate. I have seen his many years of campaigning on
improving transport connectivity, particularly in Sheffield. I
welcome the publication of his bus review, which he chaired for
the Mayor of South Yorkshire, my hon. Friend the Member for
Barnsley Central (). I will discuss that in further detail later.
I also thank all other hon. Members present for their
contributions to today’s debate—so I thank the hon. Member for
Paisley and Renfrewshire North ()! We also look forward to
the Minister’s contribution, of course.
Our public transport network has suffered severely from 12 years
of Conservative cuts. Our urban transport networks should be
fuelling our post-pandemic recovery, but instead they are facing
yet more cuts at a time when they should be investing in
services.
First, on buses, in normal times, more journeys are taken by bus
than by any other mode of public transport. They are critical to
the economic prosperity and social wellbeing of our towns and
cities. As my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield South East
states in his bus review:
“Buses are the backbone of Britain’s public transport
system.”
However, under this Government, those vital transport links have
been left to decay. Bus coverage is now at the lowest level in
decades and communities have been left behind. Since 2010, we
have lost a staggering 134 million miles of bus routes.
The Government finally published their long-awaited national bus
strategy last March. That could have been a turning point, but
instead was a missed opportunity to revolutionise the industry
and lead the way on transport decarbonisation. On funding in
particular, the Prime Minister pledged to
“level up buses across England towards London standards”,
and promised an extra £3 billion to fulfil that. However, we are
already seeing the Government backtracking on that pledge. Leaked
documents have shown that the budget for the transformation of
buses has shrunk to just £1.4 billion for the next three years.
Far from levelling-up, that means more services will inevitably
be cut or reduced. Figures show that local authorities have
already bid for over £7 billion from that fund. Once all local
authorities submit bids, that figure could climb to above £9
billion, so I ask the Minister, why has only £1.4 billion been
made available to them?
My hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield South East has identified
a number of issues relating to bus services in South Yorkshire in
his bus review. Those findings are also replicated up and down
the country. For instance, he identified that bus miles in South
Yorkshire have fallen by an average of 12% between 2010 and 2017
alone. He also highlighted issues of reliability, with over 60%
of respondents saying they were dissatisfied with services in the
region. That has culminated in passengers feeling isolated and
being forced to take cars and taxis. Those modes of transport are
not just more expensive in the midst of a cost of living crisis;
they also work against our net zero ambitions.
Funding to decarbonise our transport network has fallen woefully
short of the Government’s rhetoric. The Government talk a big
game on this. In February 2020, the Prime Minister promised 4,000
new zero-emission buses by 2025—the hon. Member for Paisley and
Renfrewshire North has already focused on this issue—but this was
also reiterated in the national bus strategy last year. However,
let us take a closer look at the funding. The first round will
make funding available for only 900 buses. Of new funding
announced in last year’s Budget, only 335 buses have been
accounted for. DFT has said it will provide further details on
how £355 million of new funding will be used “in due course”, so
perhaps the Minister could take this opportunity to provide those
details or find them out from the appropriate Department. We have
funding confirmed for only around 1,200 new buses. Can the
Minister explain how these figures align with the Prime
Minister’s pledge to deliver 4,000 more zero-emission buses on
our roads?
I turn to another key pillar of our public transport network: our
railways, which have fared no better than our buses in the last
decade. The Government’s failures on improving rail services,
particularly in the north of England, fly in the face of their
levelling-up agenda. Transport for the North is set to lose 40%
of its core funding in the next financial year, and services will
undoubtedly suffer as a result. To compound the situation, the
north of England has seen many rail projects scrapped in recent
years—for example, plans for lines connecting Leeds and
Manchester in the integrated rail plan were scrapped, along with
the eastern leg of High Speed 2. Our railways must be at the
heart of our covid recovery, but services still remain below
pre-pandemic levels, despite all restrictions being lifted.
Reports in The Times have said that timetables may never return
to their pre-pandemic levels. Will the Minister deny that? If so,
will she state when our rail services will get back to full
operation?
The Government pay lip service to our public transport, without
delivering the funding needed for the network to deliver. My hon.
Friend the Member for Sheffield South East has gone into great
detail on many issues that I have not been able to raise, but it
is worth mentioning that former MP , who is now the Mayor of West
Yorkshire, is really tackling these issues head-on. She is
looking at public control and bringing in simpler fares,
contactless ticketing and greener buses.
I want to finish by urging the Government to adhere to the
excellent and eloquent request from my hon. Friend the Member for
Sheffield South East for better buses—or whatever we call them
these days. The overarching thing that all MPs want is to deliver
on the transport needs of their constituents, and the Government
really have to set out a proper, joined-up strategy, as my hon.
Friend discussed earlier. They particularly need to look at the
different pieces of the jigsaw, because transport is very
complicated and can be a barrier to employment, but we know it
can also give access to employment. My hon. Friend said that we
have been given London-type powers, and now the Government have
to commit to both a strategy and London-type resources for our
cities.
2.13pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Transport ()
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship for the first
time, Mr Sharma. It is also a pleasure to respond to the hon.
Member for Sheffield South East (Mr Betts) because, as has
already been said, his commitment to his area, and the work that
he has done with the South Yorkshire bus review, really is
commendable, particularly as there were around 5,900 respondents
to the review. We very much appreciate the ambition for improving
transport in his area, and particularly the commitment to public
transport. He set out really effectively the challenges, benefits
and opportunities, and I am certainly committed to creating a
future transport system that works for everyone everywhere.
I note the envy expressed by the hon. Member for Paisley and
Renfrewshire North () of my role. I can only say
that much of the work is devolved and I would welcome more
collaborative working with him on this subject and particularly
on decarbonisation and the future of transport, because the
climate sees no boundaries. I am sure that, where Scotland is
exceeding, we can learn lessons right across the UK, and that
many lessons can be learned from other parts of the UK as well,
so I reiterate that willingness to continue to work together.
We would also like to see safer streets, smoother journeys and
better infrastructure to help create a cleaner, quieter, less
congested transport system, and we recognise the part that public
transport and active travel will play in that regard. Ahead are
major environmental challenges that we need to meet head-on, as
has been discussed, and we have set really high ambitions. They
range from the Government’s commitment in 2019 to achieving net
zero by 2050, through to the announcement in 2020 of the phasing
out of petrol and diesel cars in recognition that that is where
the bulk of emissions in the transport sector come from, the
publication of the transport decarbonisation plan in July 2021
and, just last Friday, to put more flesh on the bones of that,
the publication of our electric vehicle infrastructure
strategy.
I think that we have covered the breadth of transport systems
during this debate. Let me focus on buses and public transport.
The pandemic has meant that travel demand across local transport
networks has changed with the emergence of new travel patterns,
while the sector is continuing to deal with the ongoing effects
of the pandemic and financial challenges remain. The Government
understand the importance of local transport networks. That is
why we have supported the bus, tram and light rail sectors
through a variety of emergency and recovery grants, totalling
almost £2 billion. Furthermore, we have negotiated an extension
to the current recovery funding packages, providing more than
£150 million in extra support to the local transport sector.
In March 2021, we published England’s long-term national bus
strategy, and we have set out a bold vision for bus services
across the country. At the Budget, we announced £1.2 billion of
dedicated funding for bus transformation deals, and that is part
of £3 billion of new spend on buses over this Parliament. We will
announce more details on how the funding will be allocated very
soon. With regard to zero-emission buses, there are currently
nearly 2,000 zero-emission buses on the roads, and we have £198
million to support 943 zero-emission buses. We remain committed
to supporting the introduction of 4,000 zero-emission buses, with
more than £535 million of funding available in this Parliament to
support climate ambitions, improve transport for local
communities and supply high-quality green jobs.
The hon. Member for Sheffield South East referenced what is
happening in his community with ITM Power, one of the leading
hydrogen providers. That is exactly what we are looking for for
aviation, maritime and rail. For aspects of the transport system
that cannot easily be electrified, we will be looking to hydrogen
as one solution. I look forward to an upcoming visit to ITM. I
would welcome his joining me on that visit.
Mr Betts
I thank the Minister for that invitation. I am very hopeful that
I can come with her on the visit. To go back to the £3 billion in
improvement funding, she has just said that £1.2 billion, I
think, will be allocated shortly. A ministerial “shortly” does
not always happen very quickly, but anyway, it will be shortly.
Is she therefore saying that the rest of the £3 billion has not
been spent on the covid measures, that £1.8 billion is left and
that authorities will be able to bid for that in the course of
this Parliament?
Let me provide the exact detail on the millions and billions—how
they have been allocated already and how they will be
allocated—in much more detail in writing, because I do not want
to get that wrong and I am not the Minister for buses. If the
hon. Gentleman will allow me the time to provide a more detailed
response, I will make sure we get it absolutely spot on.
I have set out our commitment to buses, but the hon. Gentleman
has also referenced the importance of light rail, which is a
lifeline for communities right across the UK and offers a
particular advantage for decarbonisation as we look towards the
future of transport. Later this year, I very much hope, we will
bring in legislation that will provide further opportunities for
self-driving vehicles and the future of transport using
technology. During the pandemic, the Government allocated over
£250 million in funding to support six light rail operators and
local transport authorities in England outside of London. From
April 2022, we will provide over £100 million of additional
support to the bus, light rail and tram sector for six months—the
trials that the hon. Gentleman mentioned. There will be a
decision imminently.
Mr Betts
Is that sooner than “shortly”?
Imminently is shorter than “in due course”. I wish I could tell
the hon. Gentleman today—[Interruption.] That was not a note
confirming that I can tell him right now, sadly, but if he holds
his patience a little while longer, we will be able to provide
information on the total package of support and how much money
will be available for light rail.
We have set out a wide range of ambitions and commitments across
all modes of transport during this Parliament. The levelling-up
fund, which is worth £4.8 billion for the UK, will invest in
local transport infrastructure such as bypasses and other local
road schemes, bus lanes and railway station upgrades. As a result
of the 2021 spending review, successful bids from round 1 of the
levelling-up fund will see £1.7 billion invested in 105 local
infrastructure projects across the UK. That funding, which is to
be spent by March 2025, includes over £77 million awarded to
authorities across the north. For example, Liverpool city region
will receive £37 million to deliver high-quality segregated
walking and cycling routes in some of the region’s most deprived
areas.
The hon. Member for Paisley and Renfrewshire North also
referenced active travel. I have to disagree with him; we are
spending six times the amount of funding on dedicated cycling and
walking infrastructure. The Prime Minister’s Gear Change plan is
possibly one of the greatest health interventions that this
Government have made. We have established Active Travel England;
we are developing an interim board, and we will make sure that
future cycle infrastructure aligns with LTN 1/20, to ensure that
cycle infrastructure is fit for purpose and of the highest
quality. That will be happening right across the country, making
sure that it is as relevant for villages—which is important to
me, because I live in one—as it is for towns and cities. The
Prime Minister has set out his ambition that by 2030, half of all
journeys in towns and cities will be walked or cycled. That is
commendable, and I am delighted to be the Minister leading on
that ambition with colleagues and partnerships right across the
country.
The Department has recently published our integrated rail plan
for the north and midlands, which sets out that £96 billion will
be spent—the biggest ever single Government investment in
Britain’s rail network. In January 2020, the Government pledged
£500 million for the Restoring Your Railways Fund to start
reopening lines and stations to reconnect smaller communities,
regenerate local economies and improve access to jobs, homes and
education. I have heard the request from the hon. Member for
Sheffield South East that we consider light rail in some of these
areas rather than heavy rail, and I know he has met with my
colleague in the Department, my hon. Friend the Member for
Aldridge-Brownhills (), who is the rail Minister. We
have heard those requests and they make a lot of sense.
Mr Betts
I appreciate this is not the Minister’s area, but the rail
Minister has helpfully agreed to meet me specifically about the
Barrow Hill scheme. I wondered whether at some point the
Department is going to publish a review of the Tram Train pilot
and indicate how it sees it being rolled out across the country
in general.
Absolutely. We would not do these pilots if they were not about
learning lessons and publishing those lessons learned. The
Government cannot do this on our own; we depend on our partners,
our arm’s length bodies, our executive agencies, local
authorities, local communities, businesses and, in particular,
the private sector and transport operators to ensure that we get
this right. I am absolutely confident that that will be the case.
When I write to the hon. Gentleman, I will be sure to include the
timeline I expect for that publication.
On city region sustainable transport settlements, we will deliver
£5.7 billion of investment so that city regions can upgrade local
transport to boost growth, level up and decarbonise transport,
with £3 billion going to city regions across the north to support
a number of transport interventions, including tram and light
rail. Some £570 million has been allocated to the South Yorkshire
Mayoral Combined Authority to improve schemes such as the renewal
of the Supertram network across Sheffield and Rotherham.
I have already talked about the integrated rail plan, and I will
reflect briefly on roads. The issue has not been discussed
specifically in this debate, but we need to recognise that
cyclists use roads, and that roads are fundamental to much of our
decarbonisation, which is why we are to invest £24 billion in
England’s strategic road network. That substantial package will
benefit strategic roads around the country, including in the
north.
On walking and cycling, I have already set out Active Travel
England’s priorities, which are being drawn up, and the Prime
Minister’s ambitions. Statistics show that 68% of journeys are
less than five miles, which is why we have launched our ambitious
plans to boost walking and cycling in England. For the 2021
spending review period, £710 million of new dedicated funding for
walking and cycling was announced. That, taking other funding
streams into account, delivers the £2 billion of funding for
walking and cycling over this Parliament to which I referred.
As we invest in local infrastructure and make changes to the
transport sector, we will work in partnership with local
transport authorities and operators to achieve the best outcomes
for all transport users. We are updating local transport plan
guidance to support local transport authorities to bring their
plans into line with Government priorities. The Department will
publish additional guidance on quantifiable carbon reductions in
local transport, in line with our commitments in the transport
decarbonisation plan, to make that a fundamental part of local
transport planning and funding.
The hon. Member for Paisley and Renfrewshire North also discussed
the charging network. In the electric vehicle infrastructure
strategy, we referred to a revolution that will work for
everyone, everywhere. We already have in excess of 30,000 public
charge points in the UK, of which more than 5,400 are rapid. We
have a plan to ensure that we will guarantee at least six rapid
chargers in excess of 150 kW at all 114 motorway service areas in
England. That is in addition to the hundreds of thousands of
charge points already installed on driveways, with many more
hundreds of thousands to come. We recognise that we need at least
10 times the number of charge points across the country to
support the revolution from a fossil fuel transport system to a
decarbonised one.
Mr Betts
I did not talk about electric vehicles, as this debate is about
public transport, but as the owner of one myself, I know the
frustration of not having enough charge points to go to and
therefore having to work out a route. The Minister mentioned
rapid charging. When I get to a charging point, often it is not
that rapid because the grid does not deliver sufficient power. It
is a point I have raised with the Transport Secretary before,
which he accepted. Will the Government take that up with the
grid? Until it gets that right, someone can turn up to a charging
point and find that charging takes three or four times as long as
it should, which is incredibly frustrating.
I am delighted that the hon. Member has given me the opportunity
to talk more about how we are rolling out the electric vehicle
infrastructure strategy. It is not just about the number of
chargers; we recognise that a broken charger is as much use as a
chocolate fireguard. That is why we are mandating that there is
open data, 99% reliability by charge point operators, transparent
pricing, and the ability to pay by contactless, rather than
having to download yet another app.
On generation and connection, we are working with Ofgem and
identifying the ways in which we can secure reservations,
particularly for motorway service areas, where we will need to
future-proof with a “dig once” approach, particularly as we look
forward to the introduction of heavy goods vehicles using
battery-electric technology.
We recognise that we need a lot more chargers, particularly in
areas outside of London. We recognise the need for reliability,
which will be mandated for charge-point operators. We also
recognise that people need to know where chargers are and when
they are available. That is all being mandated, and we are
bringing forward further legislation later this year.
We are working with Ofgem, National Grid, the distribution
network operators across the country and, most importantly, local
authorities, because they are our greatest partner in ensuring
that a consistent charge point infrastructure is available for
people who do not have driveways. We must be able to say, “No
driveway is no problem”. That is why we have funds available for
homeowners, businesses, local authorities, motorway service areas
and purchasers, with plug-in grants across cars, vans and heavy
goods vehicles. Our ambition is matched only by the financial
incentivisation we are providing to people to make the most of
the transition.
Like the Minister, I am more familiar with this matter than with
buses—I am not a bus person. I want to ask about VAT rates on
community charging. At the moment, it is just 5% VAT for people
with a drive and 20% for people who charge their cars in the
community. Not that I want the debate to go on much longer
because I have a train to catch, but I have reservations about
how community charging can be done. A lot of people I have spoken
to say that chargers could probably be fitted into lamp posts.
How will we do that on “Coronation Street”-type streets, where we
are trying to discourage people from parking on pavements? Are
people going to form a queue? Is there going to be a street brawl
if someone has been parked next to a lamp post for a long time? I
see chaos abounding if we do not get this right first time, so I
welcome the Minister’s views on the matter.
That point requires a longer debate; I would welcome the
opportunity to talk more about it. In the first instance, I
recommend that the hon. Member look at our recently published
electric vehicle infrastructure strategy, because much of how we
will do that is in there. We are also working with pioneers and
inventors; in this country, we have shown time and again that we
are up for the challenge. This is a nation of innovation that is
abundant with engineers who find solutions to some of the grand
challenges that we face. I have every confidence that we will
find solutions to these difficulties. Some of that is set out in
the electric vehicle infrastructure strategy.
We are working with organisations such as Motability to ensure
that we have an inclusive revolution that works for everyone,
everywhere. Through the initiatives I have described, it is clear
that we are supporting local areas to drive forward the
improvements they need, while moving towards a greener and more
prosperous future. This Government are determined to create a
great, green transport network that is available to everyone,
everywhere, and that spreads opportunity and prosperity to
all.
Once again, I thank the hon. Member for Sheffield South East for
allowing me the opportunity to respond to this interesting
debate, in which Members from across the House have demonstrated
the importance of public—and, indeed, all—transport.
2.35pm
Mr Betts
I thank all three contributors to the debate, particularly my
hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Brightside and Hillsborough
() and the Minister. It has
been a good, wide-ranging debate that has gone further than my
initial contribution, including a discussion of electric vehicles
and active travel, which I did not mention but recognise the
importance of. Of course, we also spoke about the rail challenges
in Sheffield and the north in general, on which we could have
several other debates if we had time.
There is recognition that public transport in urban areas is an
essential lifeline for so many people, but it is also vital for
the wider public in all our communities because it helps us to
tackle the problem of congestion, the challenge of climate change
and the real dangers of pollution; all three can be tackled by
getting more people on public transport, improving the quality of
public transport and making it greener.
I think there is general agreement on what the challenges are and
on what, ideally, we would like to see done to meet them. The
question that remains, as always, is: will the resources be made
available to enable the necessary actions to be implemented? We
have not addressed that challenge fully today, but I am sure it
is one to which we will return in future debates.
Question put and agreed to.
Resolved,
That this House has considered the future funding of urban
transport.
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