Moved by Lord Lucas That this House regrets the Code of Practice
for Private Parking, laid before the House on 7 February, because
Her Majesty’s Government have not made adequate provision for
swiftly improving the legislation if problems emerge. Lord Lucas
(Con) My Lords, I congratulate the Government on the introduction
of this code of practice. I have long been a campaigner for the
motorist in this and other areas and have served my time in the
courts as a...Request free trial
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That this House regrets the Code of Practice for Private Parking,
laid before the House on 7 February, because Her Majesty’s
Government have not made adequate provision for swiftly improving
the legislation if problems emerge.
(Con)
My Lords, I congratulate the Government on the introduction of
this code of practice. I have long been a campaigner for the
motorist in this and other areas and have served my time in the
courts as a defendant against parking operators, so I am
delighted to see this legislation reach the borders of becoming
effective.
None the less, I wish that the Government had recognised that
this is a difficult area, and that preparation should be included
in this to amend in the light of the way that things turn out in
practice. Otherwise, we will be waiting again for a chance of
primary legislation before we can do anything about it, and it
has taken a long time to get to this point. However, here we are,
so I ask my noble friend—I do not expect him to reply in detail
today, but I hope to have correspondence with him or his
colleagues—whether we can set things up so that enough data is
collected for us to tell quickly what is happening.
The data that I would particularly like to see collected is,
first, on the volume of parking charges. That will be the best
indicator of how parking operators’ business models are changing.
If we see a lot more parking charges being issued, we will know
that something is not working. It would be a big alarm signal if
the result of this code was to push operators towards a financial
model that was dependent on parking charges. We ought to be
seeing the volume of parking charges coming down. This ought to
be the key bit of information that is being collected and
reported to the department, and not casually at the end of a
year. Such information ought to be coming in monthly, once the
system is up and running, so that problems can be caught early
and understood early.
The other big indicator I hope the Government will look at is the
volume of county court judgments relating to parking issues. It
is really important what happens to parking charges. What
percentage are paid and what percentage are appealed? How are
they chased up? What happens in the end? How are those
percentages changing? If we see an increase in the number of
county court judgments, that indicates that we are seeing
operators moving outside the code. In other words, they are
judging that the conditions of the code are so strict that their
best option is to operate entirely outside it.
It is entirely possible to do that, because if you are operating
a park outside the code and go around sticking parking charge
notices on people’s windscreens, about 30% of people pay them and
another 20% appeal, which means the parking operator immediately
knows who they are. Then there are vans with company names on
them, and databases outside the DVLA collected by leasing
companies and others and made available—quite how legally I do
not know, but they are available—so that a parking operator
outside the code can count on not a bad return on issuing parking
charges.
That will show through in county court judgments because, without
being able to collect through debt charges, there is none the
less a way for unregistered operators to collect through
solicitors who are able to obtain remuneration from the courts.
To my mind, those are the two key indicators I would like to see
the Government having regular information on and not, as is
foreshadowed to the introduction to the code, waiting for a
couple of years and then starting to look at what is
happening.
There are other areas where I hope the Government will also
collect data. What is the volume of appeals based on producing
blue badges late? What are appeals based on? What is the pattern
of appeals and what are their outcomes? What does that tell us
about what is going on? How are the keeper/owner questions being
resolved in general, in particular on railway land where the
Protection of Freedoms Act does not apply—as it does not in some
other circumstances too? What is happening in areas where tariffs
exceed penalties, where it is in the motorists’ interest not to
pay because they end up paying the penalty, which is less than
the tariff that they would have incurred anyway?
What practice is evolving on grace periods? How are they set and
how is that changing? What percentage of operators are offering
remote additional payments so that, rather than being done with a
parking charge, you get a text saying that you are about to go
over and asking if you would like to pay some more? What is
evolving in payment methods? How much is becoming digital and how
much are we enabling people to pay in different ways? How is this
all working with—I know cross-ministerial boundaries are
difficult—the national parking platform, which the DfT is
evolving in Manchester? What is happening in the pattern of the
parking offer? Are we seeing movement away from payment-per-hour
to having to buy a whole day in order that the revenue of the
parking operator is increased? Are we seeing increased use of
parking barriers?
This is a complicated area with a wide range of operators in it.
We need to sort out how we are going to approach it quickly and
clearly. We need to define what is legitimate, to play the role
of the shepherd keeping our flock safe from wolves, and, at
night, counting our sheep. I beg to move.
(LD)
My Lords, in principle I am very much of the same view as the
noble Lord in supporting this code of practice, because there
surely is plenty to improve in the operation of private parking.
As he outlined, the key question is whether the code is fit for
purpose and strong enough, as well as, of course, the issue about
review once we have more information.
The tackling of this problem started in the Protection of
Freedoms Act. That might surprise quite a lot of people because
it is not an obvious topic for an Act about freedom, but it
includes a section on the recovery of unpaid parking charges and
the limits on powers to remove and immobilise vehicles. That was
an important area of public concern about the use of excessive
power by some parking companies and, in some cases, very sharp
practice.
The Secondary Legislation Scrutiny Committee has criticised the
code’s lack of an impact assessment. Since this will have an
impact on thousands of companies and millions of drivers, it is
surprising that there is no formal impact assessment. The big
question is how that lack of an impact assessment can be
defended.
The Government apparently spoke to three companies and the
British Parking Association. They predicted an apparently massive
impact on the industry, which seems unlikely to me and, I
believe, to the Government. If it will have a massive impact,
that suggests that things are very much awry with the way the
industry is being run at the moment, if it is saying that it will
not be possible for it to run well and fairly within its current
cost structure.
It is important to bear in mind that we are talking not just
about fairness to drivers. Drivers are also people who run
businesses, so the unfair organisation of private parking has a
huge impact on the economy.
Of particular importance is the single appeals process. I very
much welcome that concept, and the idea that there will be limits
on additional charges levied on motorists. Many motorists,
particularly those who travel around the country a lot, find the
whole process very complex. One will not be surprised that trying
to appeal a parking charge is a complex process designed to
discourage one. The guidelines are welcome because parking
operators are judge and jury to their own charges, so a single
appeals process will be very welcome.
I also welcome some kind of concept of a standard grace period,
and ask the Minister how that will be advertised, because there
is talk of having a different grace period for different types of
car park. The idea that someone might go in, park and be allowed
only five minutes is, of course, completely unrealistic—if there
is a queue to pay for parking, or if the person has three young
children in the back of their car who have to be taken out and
sorted into buggies, and the day’s goods and chattels taken out
as well. It is important that there is clarity on that.
I am very pleased that the noble Lord, , has drawn our attention to the
complexity of this and the inadequacy of the powers to review the
provisions of the code. With modern technology, the problems of
exploitation of the data are going to get only worse and more
complicated to deal with, so it is important that there is a
thorough review in a short period of time.
8.15pm
(Lab)
My Lords, the Private Parking Code of Practice has been
introduced in an effort to regulate the industry and respond to
the evolving threat of rogue operators. This is an objective that
I am sure the whole House will support, and I am pleased that
steps such as these are being introduced to this end. I am
concerned that the Government are, unfortunately, not going far
enough. The noble Lord, , is right to raise his concerns
in today’s debate.
The Minister will be aware that the Government have been
obligated to introduce the code as a result of the Parking (Code
of Practice) Act 2019. There is certainly some merit in the code
that the Government have brought forward. I am particularly
pleased that the code caps the amounts that should be charged for
various parking charges. In practice, this will cut most fines at
£50 and others at £100. However, it is unclear whether there are
loopholes that could be exploited by this limit. There have been
recent press reports of individuals receiving multiple separate
fines in one day, resulting in a total fine of many thousands of
pounds. Can the Minister assure the House that this would not be
possible under the new code?
I am also pleased that a new process will be developed that will
allow drivers to appeal fines. Although I appreciate that this
service will be independent, what mechanisms will Parliament have
to evaluate its operation? The code is right to bring forward the
possibility of banning rogue companies that act outside the
rules. Will the Minister commit to transparency over this? Will
he arrange for the department to publicise those who have been
banned?
On the issue of clear signage and markings, while this is also
welcome, I would appreciate it if the Minister would explain what
steps have been taken to ensure that they are accessible for
people with disabilities.
Ministers have previously stated that the code was developed in
close consultation with private parking experts including
consumer and industry groups. Can the Minister elaborate on the
findings of that consultation, and whether this will feed into
further regulations?
The noble Lord, , and the noble Baroness, Lady
Randerson, talked about the complexities of this area. I thought
he talked well about indicators and, in particular, the volume of
CCJs and statistical analysis of what has been happening. We
welcome the opportunity to debate the code today. I hope the
Minister will be able to provide assurances on the issues raised
by this House. Regulations to confront rogue parking operators
are long overdue, but the Government must go further to hold them
to account.
The Minister of State, Home Office and Department for Levelling
Up, Housing & Communities () (Con)
My Lords, I thank my noble friend for his interest in the Private
Parking Code of Practice and for securing this important,
valuable and informative debate. I hope noble Lords will agree
that the code of practice is a significant step towards creating
a fair system for motorists, ending the poor practices and
behaviour that have been widespread within the private parking
industry for far too long, as raised by the noble Lord, Lord
Khan. It will bring greater consistency and improve standards
across Britain, boosting our high streets and town centres by
making it easier for people to park without receiving unwarranted
charges.
Noble Lords may be aware that the code is part of a wider
regulatory framework that we are also putting into place to
ensure a fair system for motorists. This includes a certification
scheme, to which parking trade associations must adhere if their
members wish to request access to DVLA data. It also includes the
establishment of a scrutiny and oversight board to monitor the
new system and the creation of a single, independent appeals
service for motorists to turn to if they are unhappy with the
handling of an appeal by an operator.
The certification scheme, based on the code, will outline how the
requirements of the code should be measured, tested and assessed.
It will provide an opportunity to clarify anything that proves to
be unclear or confusing in the code itself for implementation by
parking operators. The Government intend to finalise the scheme
this spring. We will also appoint the scrutiny and oversight
board this spring to oversee the operation of the new system and
monitor its effectiveness. The board will advise the Government
on the operation of the code and certification scheme, providing
recommendations on whether these need to be updated. We
anticipate that the code will be reviewed every two years, once
it comes into full force at the end of 2023, and the scheme as
required.
The governance of the code will include representatives from the
department, the DVLA, industry and consumers. We also expect the
new single appeals service to be represented in this governance
to improve information and data flows, ensuring that the sector
is monitored efficiently. In addition, we are preparing a data
strategy and a robust monitoring and evaluation framework for the
enforcement of the code. The strategy will provide an outline of
relevant data and identify opportunities to maximise the value of
that data, reflecting the principles of the National Data
Strategy.
My noble friend has a keen interest in ensuring
that we track the data appropriately. I assure him that we will
cover the data around the number or volume of parking charges
issued by operators. The frequency of that will be determined by
the data strategy in due course, but I note my noble friend’s
desire to see that on at least a monthly basis. In addition, we
will be looking at the number of appeals accepted by operators
and the number of appeals brought to the single appeals service.
I note that my noble friend also wants us to track the number of
county court judgments which come in where appeals are rejected
and people are still not paying, which would obviously be much
lower.
This will allow us to better understand and manage breaches of
the code, identify any issues not adequately covered by it and
spot patterns and trends across the sector. At the same time, it
will provide motorists and the industry with an insight into how
the system is working. The data will be collected by the trade
associations and the single appeals service. It will be examined
by the scrutiny and oversight board and used to make decisions on
the operation of the system and the updates required to the code
and the scheme. I hope noble Lords will agree that, altogether,
these measures will ensure that the code is effectively
implemented and monitored going forward, with the appropriate
structures in place for important issues to be identified and
resolved without impacting on the service received by
motorists.
The noble Baroness, Lady Randerson, raised the issue of providing
an impact assessment for the code, which I think is a question of
timing. I hope I can reassure her that we do intend to undertake
an impact assessment of the changes introduced by the code once
the single appeals service has been designed, to ensure that we
have all the necessary information to complete the assessments.
It is about getting the impact assessment right at the right
time. I hope that reassures the noble Baroness.
In response to the noble Lord, Lord Khan, who is quite an expert
on private parking practice, I note that the code introduces a
10-minute grace period. It also introduces high requirements for
signage. On loopholes—a very important point raised by noble
Lord—we are working with the industry, including the two trade
associations, to ensure that there are no loopholes. The noble
Lord asked about a register for banning rogue operators. These
will be monitored through the wider regulatory framework,
including the scrutiny and oversight board already mentioned.
So, we know that the involvement of the private parking industry
in this process is crucial to the success of the code. We look
forward to working alongside the industry—as well as consumer and
motorist organisations —as we move towards the full
implementation of the code and its regulatory framework at the
end of 2023. Finally, with the expertise and knowledge of my
noble friend , I am very keen that he does
provide his input around getting the data framework and data
frequency right. I thank him very much for securing this very
important debate.
(Con)
My Lords, I am very grateful indeed to the noble Baroness, Lady
Randerson, and to the noble Lord, . I feel thoroughly
supported around the House and, indeed, I feel supported by my
noble friend the Minister in what he has said, for which I thank
him very much. I would really like to take up his invitation to
have a look at the data strategy and the other work surrounding
that at an appropriate time of his choosing. I, therefore, take
pleasure in seeking to withdraw my Motion.
Motion withdrawn.
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