Janet Daby (Lewisham East) (Lab) I thank the Minister for her
attendance at this late hour. This debate is motivated by the need
to protect minors. Public bodies all have a responsibility to
protect minors. Protecting the rights of minors while in police
custody is vital, but children across our country have gone
overlooked. Some of the most vulnerable in our society are
suffering under insufficient safeguards, and reform is desperately
needed. I thank Deborah, my...Request free trial
(Lewisham East) (Lab)
I thank the Minister for her attendance at this late hour. This
debate is motivated by the need to protect minors. Public bodies
all have a responsibility to protect minors. Protecting the
rights of minors while in police custody is vital, but children
across our country have gone overlooked. Some of the most
vulnerable in our society are suffering under insufficient
safeguards, and reform is desperately needed.
I thank Deborah, my constituent, for being brave enough to share
her experience with me. She used to work just around the corner
for the civil service, and she is the mum of Jayden, whose story
I will be speaking about today. I also welcome Dr Miranda Bevans
and Dr Vicky Kemp, both professors of law and experts in this
field, who have been invaluable in their conversations with me
and in the preparation for this debate, and who are in the Public
Gallery.
Jayden is a 15-year-old boy from my constituency. He is currently
in the first year of his GCSEs and is described by his mum
as,
“bright and sociable, part of a large close-knit family”.
Jayden was in his school uniform and on his way to school when he
was arrested. There had been a complaint from a bus driver about
a group of boys and the police had been called. By 10 that
morning, Jayden found himself sitting in a custody cell made for
adults.
Deborah, his mum, was worried when Jayden did not return home
from school. She called his friends, their parents and the
school. She was scared that her son had been harmed, knowing that
too many children and young people have been stabbed and died on
our streets, and desperately hoped that her son was not another
victim.
At 6.46 pm, Deborah received a call from the station, notifying
her of her son’s arrest, nine hours after he was originally
detained. He was alone for nine hours, and there was clearly no
concern from the police about the level of chronic despair and
anxiety he was feeling. By way of explanation for the nine hours,
she was told a work shift change had taken place and custody was
busy. In my view, there was no justifiable reason given for that
level of neglect.
The chance is that Jayden left home at 8 am to go to school, and
just under 11 hours later his mum was called. We must ask why he
was treated so carelessly and who else that has happened to.
Deborah told me that Jayden had asked for a phone call, but had
not been permitted to make one. Again, that is stripping someone
of their rights. It was as if he was being punished before being
been found guilty, and that is simply not good enough.
I remind the House of the law that already exists to protect
children while in police custody. The Children Act 2004 places a
statutory duty on police,
“to have regard to the safety, welfare, and well-being of
children.”
A rights-based, “child first” approach in every encounter with
the police is enshrined in the National Police Chiefs’ Council’s
national strategy. The Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984, or
PACE, requires that detention is only authorised when strictly
necessary and custody officers should prioritise vulnerable
detainees.
Jayden’s mum, as the appropriate adult and person responsible for
his welfare, should have been notified “as soon as practicable”
under code 3 of the statutory guidance to the 1984 Act. Jayden
should have been given a phone call, as it is only under specific
circumstances that that right can be denied or delayed.
Simply put, the law as it currently stands failed to protect
Jayden, and it probably fails to protect other young people like
him. The Minister may respond by saying that she cannot comment
on the specifics of an individual case and to follow the
pre-existing complaints system, which my constituent is doing. I
understand that, but the reality is that this should never have
occurred in the first place, and it is far from an isolated
incident. This means that something is fundamentally wrong.
There are countless similar stories, many of which go formally
unreported. Here are just a few from in and around my
constituency and across the country. One child spent 34 hours in
custody, including 10 hours post charge, with an appropriate
adult only arriving after 16 and a half hours of the detention. A
16-year-old boy was kept in a holding cell with adults for three
and a half hours without his mother or solicitors being notified.
In 2019, a 10-year-old child was detained for 23 hours, from 7 pm
on Wednesday to 6 pm on Thursday. Imagine that—a 10-year-old
child being detained in a police cell for 23 hours.
We all know that not all young people, parents and carers
complain. They do not complain for a number of reasons. Just one
incident coming to the public’s attention means that there are
likely to be many more similar cases—probably more than we can
imagine. In my recent conversations with Miranda and Vicky, I
have heard of many more situations where it is entirely
inappropriate for young children to be kept in a police cell. The
law is simply not properly protecting children while they are in
police custody. The overall number of children held in police
custody has decreased over recent years, which is a welcome
development. However, children are often detained for a long
time, mirroring adult stays in a police cell and that, again, is
not acceptable. Also substantial racial disparities exist in the
overnight detention of children.
It is important to make this point: most custody officers up and
down our country are trying their best to look after children who
arrive in their custody. Being in custody is a risky environment
for children and self-harm is shockingly prevalent in these
cases. The legislation is not strong enough to prevent this. The
procedure needs to be fleshed out, and a stronger and more
serious stance needs to be taken. In accordance with PACE,
whereby detention is used as a “measure of last resort” and for
the “shortest possible time”, will the Minister consider and
commit to halving the amount of time that children can be held in
custody from 24 to 12 hours? Will she also carry out a review
looking at self-harm and mental health following young people’s
interaction with custody and the overnight detention of children
in police custody?
In our system, the appropriate adult, often the parent, carries
responsibility for oversight of due process—a role that they are
unprepared for. What parent could ever envisage being the
appropriate adult for their child in custody? What parent would
ever even know what to do? Therefore, education is key to make
sure that appropriate adults can fulfil this vital oversight
role. In 1991, the royal commission on criminal justice
recommended the use of educational video resources to address
that gap. Dr Miranda Bevan, in association with the National
Appropriate Adult Network, recently produced a short animation
educating appropriate adults about their role. It has received
good early feedback. Will the Minister talk to the police powers
unit and lead the Home Office to adopt it?
As well as reforming the system for the future, we need to deal
with the ramifications of this issue here and now. Stays in
custody are often the only interaction that children have with
the criminal justice system. Police custody cells are designed
for adults suspected of criminal activity and not for children.
That environment can be deeply harmful for a child. As the House
has heard, there are traumatised children walking around in my
constituency inevitably shaken by their experience in custody. It
shapes their perspective on the police force and sets in train
fear and dread towards those who have been tasked with the
mission to serve and protect. The unfair treatment of minors
while in custody will have an impact on communities, so this
situation really does need to be put right.
Deborah recently said: “I am constantly worried about my children
coming into contact with the police that are here to serve and to
protect our streets.” She recently told me that because of his
experience Jayden is now afraid of the police, when in fact he
should feel that the police are there to help those in trouble.
Where and who can people like Jayden go to when they need help if
those that help him also oppress him? This breakdown in trust is
an unnecessary and avoidable situation that also lessens the
morale of the overburdened police force. The Conservatives claim
they are a party of law and order, but surely a condition of law
and order in our country is a healthy relationship between its
people and their police service. Will the Minister increase and
update the training to aid cross-cultural communication? Will she
commit to greater funding for conduit organisations that act as a
bridge between ethnic and poorer communities and the police?
One of the primary roles of Government is to protect vulnerable
people and vulnerable children involved in the youth criminal
justice system. Will the Minister work with me to make sure they
are properly protected while in police custody?
12.15am
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Home
Department ()
I am extremely grateful to the hon. Member for Lewisham East
() for bringing these matters to
the House, despite the lateness of the hour, and I acknowledge
the importance of the topic in front of us this evening. I thank
her constituent Deborah, who I understand is here, and I very
much thank the hon. Lady for telling the story of her constituent
and her son Jayden. I also acknowledge that we have Dr Miranda
Bevan with us and I will speak about her contribution later in my
remarks.
Custody is a core element of the criminal justice system and is
critical for maintaining public confidence, obtaining
intelligence, bringing offenders to justice and keeping the
public safe. However, children should only be detained in custody
when absolutely necessary. Where there are opportunities to
divert children away, these must be considered. It is right and
proper that children are acknowledged as a protected group with
specific needs. Their treatment in detention is governed not only
by domestic legislation, but by the UN convention on the rights
of the child, which the UK has signed and ratified.
Everyone who works with children has a responsibility to keep
them safe. Specific safeguards apply to children detained in
custody, including a legal requirement for an appropriate adult
to be present for interviews and strip-searches, if they take
place, to ensure their rights are protected. Officers must take
into consideration a child’s age when deciding whether it is
necessary to arrest them and determining the time at which an
arrest takes place.
The Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 places a legal limit of
24 hours on how long an individual can be detained in custody by
the police before they must be charged with an offence or
released. It can be extended by an officer of superintendent rank
or above under certain circumstances, and further by a court up
to a total of 96 hours. These legal limits apply to both children
and adults. Police officers must follow those requirements when
detaining children in custody. The hon. Lady has referred to a
case where she is stating that that did not take place, and I
know that she is raising that complaint with the specific force—I
think in her case that is the Met police—or with the Independent
Office for Police Conduct.
It is right that these procedures and requirements are subject to
scrutiny and oversight. That is why Her Majesty’s inspectorate of
constabulary and fire and rescue services regularly inspects
police custody suites. Via its inspection programmes of
approximately nine forces a year, it monitors the treatment and
welfare of children in custody and makes recommendations for
police forces and partners in maintaining and where necessary
raising service delivery. We expect forces to respond to those
recommendations and take action when concerns are raised.
The hon. Lady has raised an excellent point about the opportunity
of a custody period for the police to engage with those young
people who might be involved in crime and pursue possible
diversionary activity to prevent them from becoming further
involved in the criminal justice system. We recognise that this
is a perfect moment for that to take place. Several London
custody suites have youth workers physically present to support
detained children and engage with them and their parents.
The hon. Lady spoke about training for police forces and she is
right to recognise that. The police uplift introduced by the
Conservative Government is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to
increase the diversity of the police. Attracting a broad range of
talent, cultures and backgrounds to policing is a core ambition
in our drive to recruit 20,000 additional police officers, and we
are working really hard to deliver the diverse police workforce
that our communities need by co-ordinating efforts between
Government and policing not only to attract more diverse
candidates into policing, but to ensure it is a career where all
recruits can thrive. We have recruited more than 11,000
additional officers as part of that programme.
I am pleased to say that the police officer workforce is more
representative than ever. The latest data shows the highest
proportion of minority ethnic and female officers since records
began. There are now more than 10,000 black, Asian and minority
ethnic officers across the police workforce. The Met police are
our most diverse force, with 5,479 officers from minority ethnic
backgrounds as of 31 December 2021 and some 21.4% of its joiners
since April 2020 coming from those communities, but of course we
must keep going further.
The hon. Lady is right that it is not simply about numbers; the
training and cultural competence that officers possess is
critical to successful policing. The College of Policing’s
foundation training for all those entering the service includes
substantial coverage of police ethics and self-understanding,
including the effects of personal conscious and unconscious bias.
The initial training undertaken by all officers also covers hate
crimes, ethics and equalities, and policing without bias.
Further training is then provided in specialist areas throughout
an officer’s career. For example, training for police
investigators includes a specific focus on bias, policing fairly
and the practical effects of those fundamentals on the
investigation process. Training for those involved in public
protection includes methods to raise officers’ self-awareness of
their own views, stereotypes and biases. We agree with the hon.
Lady that it is vital that all police officers have the right
competences and values, and an understanding, especially when
dealing with the most vulnerable in our society.
The hon. Lady mentioned the important work carried out by Dr
Miranda Bevan of the London School of Economics looking at and
working with the National Appropriate Adult Network. Together
they have recently developed video guidance for family members
acting as appropriate adults to ensure that they can effectively
support their children while detained. We are grateful for that
work, which is groundbreaking and provides easily accessible
information in what is often the most difficult of circumstances.
The Home Office has been deeply involved in the development of
that innovative project and will be working to raise its profile
through as wide a dissemination as possible. We agree with the
hon. Lady that it is an incredibly helpful piece of work.
Home Office officials are also engaged with research funded by
the Nuffield Foundation to examine the impact of PACE on the
detention and questioning of children and to explore the merits
of a more child-centred approach to the police custody
experience. We look forward to the findings of that research and
will consider its recommendations carefully.
This is a vital issue and I repeat my earlier thanks to the hon.
Lady for securing the debate. I am clear that, although it is
vital for public safety that the police should have the required
legislative powers to detain people in custody, they must use
them judiciously, appropriately and within the law. Police
custody suites must be safe places for everyone and that of
course applies to children.
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