: Diolch, Llywydd.
Afternoon, Minister. It almost seems like old news now, it's been
so long since I've had the chance to question you at
spokespersons' questions in the Chamber, but it comes of great
concern to education providers and myself that the new curriculum
will see the separation of GCSE, the separate sciences, and also
the separation of English and English—. Sorry, it will see the
separate sciences at GCSE merged, and English and English
literature also merged. We have always realised in this Chamber
the importance of science and the importance of encouraging
people into science, as well as, obviously, highlighting the
importance of people going into science for our future economy,
for future jobs.
So, I was quite baffled when I heard this announcement, and, for
me, it flies in the face of one of the four purposes of the new
curriculum. The issue of conflating subjects is nothing less than
to disregard the best of what's been thought and said over
centuries. Biology is not chemistry, and English is not English
literature. Minister, England will be keeping separate subjects,
appreciating their value and importance. So, Minister, do you not
see that this will inevitably now cause a brain drain of students
who want to study medicine at Oxbridge, who will, obviously, need
triple science GCSEs to maximise their chance of success? Is this
really what we want to see happening? It's hard enough to recruit
into the education sector without staff feeling that their
subject is being dissolved or amalgamated.
I would love to hear your comments, Minister, on what impact you
think that this move will have on the children of Wales—a move
that's not supported by the majority of the education sector,
including the union the Association of
School and College Leaders Cymru, who highlighted that
only 30 per cent of those involved in the original consultation
exercise thought that this was a laudable or workable idea, but
somehow it made it into the final report. So, Minister, why is it
that the unions, professors at Swansea University and the Royal
Society of Chemistry are wrong about the disastrous impact of
this decision, and yet you and Qualifications Wales are right?
MS (Minister for Education
and the Welsh Language): Well, I think it's important to
approach this topic with a degree of moderation in some of the
descriptions that we give, because it's a very important area for
our learners. If the Member has had an opportunity to look at the
Qualifications Wales report, 'Qualified for the Future', she will
have seen there the case that Qualifications Wales makes for the
reforms that they propose in both those areas, which, as she
acknowledges, were both the subject of previous consultation. She
will find in relation, for example, to the proposal to bring
English literature and English language together that, if you
look at the current entry figures in relation to English
literature, the proposal could in fact, and is intended to,
enable more learners to participate in English literature for
longer in the curriculum. So, the argument that is made by
Qualifications Wales is that that will extend the opportunity to
more pupils than are currently having the opportunity to study
English literature.
In relation to science and technology, I know that she supports
the principle in the curriculum of making sure that our learners
have a breadth of experience. And the intention, which again is
laid out in the Qualifications Wales report, is to provide scope
at GCSE for learners to study, to be qualified in a broader range
of qualifications. And indeed, she'll know that the proposal in
relation to a science award is for that to be, effectively, the
value of two GCSEs, and to enable the links to be made in the way
that we understand is important between the various sciences. She
probably also knows that, currently, the most entries for science
at GCSE is in fact the double science that currently exists.
There is, however, clearly a range of opinions in relation to
this, so I would encourage her and others to contribute to the
consultation that is currently open; it's important that we hear
those perspectives as well.