Extracts from Urgent Question on Tuition Fees: EU Students - Apr 29
The Minister for Universities, Science, Research and Innovation
(Chris Skidmore):...It is not right that we should discriminate
against our other international students. Does the hon. Member for
Ashton-under-Lyne believe that we should offer a student finance
package for European students once we have left the EU—a system
that we have belonged to as members of the EU? Once we are no
longer members of the EU, is it right that we then discriminate
against Indian students or Chinese...Request free trial
The Minister for Universities, Science, Research and
Innovation (Chris Skidmore):...It is not right that we
should discriminate against our other international students. Does
the hon. Member for Ashton-under-Lyne believe that we should offer
a student finance package for European students once we have left
the EU—a system that we have belonged to as members of the EU? Once
we are no longer members of the EU, is it right that we then
discriminate against Indian students or Chinese students?
What does she say to them? How would she address the fact that her
policy would discriminate against most of the students across the
globe, at the same time as not having the money to be able to fund
these student places?
Carol Monaghan (Glasgow North West) (SNP): It is interesting to hear the Minister talk about these UK taxpayer-funded schemes, because we know that many of the people involved in them are not able to get visas to come and collaborate with their colleagues here in the UK, so the system is already failing. The SNP recognises that our EU students are a national asset. As such, the Scottish Government have confirmed that EU students starting courses in Scotland in 2020 will continue to receive free tuition, because these young people across the EU are already planning where they are going to be studying in 2020. Can the Minister confirm when the fee status of EU nationals starting courses in England in 2020 will be announced? They must know this very soon, or we will lose them anyway. The European temporary leave to remain scheme will not suit many courses, as was mentioned in Education questions. Will he therefore work with the Home Office to ensure that his scheme matches a course rather than matches an idea that suits a very small number of students? Contrary to the assertions of the Universities Minister earlier, the Higher Education Statistics Agency reports that after years of growth in EU student numbers, enrolments of EU students dropped for the first time last year. He must recognise that. We are already making the UK a less attractive place to study, and that is economically damaging. Although he is right to recognise the importance of international students, having EU students enables richer participation in schemes such as Horizon 2020. The Government have expressed enthusiasm to participate in the successor programme. How does he envisage that happening when our credibility in Europe has been undermined? Finally, the post-study work scheme has been economically and culturally beneficial to Scotland. When will the scheme be reintroduced for international students from the EU and further afield? Chris Skidmore: I will touch on several points that the hon. Lady made. During oral questions we heard concerns raised about the right to remain. I regularly meet Scottish Minister Richard Lochhead, and I will reflect upon representations he has made to me and work with the Home Office. The immigration White Paper will look at all issues relating to visas or post-study work schemes. It is important that that consultation takes place, and I urge Members to participate in it. At the moment, we are keen to look at association to the successor scheme to Horizon 2020, Horizon Europe. That will begin later this year. The key point is that postgraduate tuition fees are separate from undergraduate tuition fees, and we do not want to do anything that will damage the potential of UK universities to research and continue with their research partnerships. [Interruption.] The hon. Member for Blackpool South (Gordon Marsden) seems keen to keep on chuntering from a sedentary position. He is welcome to make a contribution in a moment, but I am trying to answer the points made by the hon. Member for Glasgow North West (Carol Monaghan). I welcome the hon. Lady mentioning that this is taxpayers’ money and that subsidy is involved. It is right that we consider how that subsidy is spent effectively. I urge caution that we do not simply send out a message that EU students happen to be unique. We want students from all parts of the globe—Chinese students, Indian students and students from the ASEAN countries—to be involved and raise their opportunity, and to send out a crucial message that when it comes to soft power, the UK will remain a global leader in higher education. Suella Braverman (Fareham) (Con): Does my hon. Friend agree that, post Brexit, we want to continue to attract bright students from many countries all over the world? The proposal that we should exempt EU students from paying fees yet impose them on those from other countries is inherently unfair and, in fact, discriminatory. It does not make economic sense or reflect the open Britain that we are striving to create. Wes Streeting (Ilford North) (Lab): She’s not voting for your deal either. Chris Skidmore: I urge my hon. Friend to do so as well. I will not discriminate on either side of the House. It is a great deal, which will provide us with certainty. We have been closely involved with our European partners for many decades. Ensuring that we continue some of those partnerships, which have both social and economic value, is important.
My hon. Friend is right about the international perspective.
People voted to leave the European Union to ensure that Britain
can be outward-looking, positive, not insular and not nativist.
We want to be able to reach out to other countries and meet our
responsibilities on the sustainable development goals. We want
students from India and ASEAN—Association of Southeast Asian
Nations—countries who want to come to the UK to study, but cannot
at the present time, to have the opportunity to do so. Why should
European students be given a disproportionate opportunity when it
comes to fee levels? She has a valid point. |