Extract from Consideration of Lords amendments to the Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill - Jan 22
Wednesday, 23 January 2019 07:37
The Minister for Security and Economic Crime (Mr Ben
Wallace):...The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. In protecting
people from being groomed and exploited, we all have concern about
three main areas. In communities, we need to make sure that people
are not groomed by radicalisers and not seduced once they have
latched on to what they have seen on the internet from online
preachers or elsewhere. That is why the Prevent programme is there.
There is also the question of the cause of what...Request free trial
The Minister for Security and Economic Crime (Mr Ben
Wallace):...The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. In
protecting people from being groomed and exploited, we all have
concern about three main areas. In communities, we need to make
sure that people are not groomed by radicalisers and not seduced
once they have latched on to what they have seen on the internet
from online preachers or elsewhere. That is why the Prevent
programme is there. There is also the question of the cause of what
drives people to feel that they are lesser or outside the support
of the state, which is why we need to do a lot more
around islamophobia; we must challenge islamophobia. It is happening; it happens in
Lancashire and around the country, and if we do not tackle it as a
Parliament and a Government it will give some cause and grievance
that will be used to recruit people. We probably all dealt in the
past in our inboxes with ridiculous BNP-sponsored emails about
veterans getting less than an immigrant, with photographs of
soldiers and comments like “This veteran gets nothing, but the
immigrant gets more,” which turned out to be complete fiction. We
must work on that, and where there is a genuine grievance we must
make sure it is not hijacked by those who want to exploit that into
terrorism or violent extremism. There is also the question of the
method of delivery of grievance and grooming, which is the
internet. We need to make sure that Ofcom works alongside the
Government, but it is of course independent and can make its own
judgments. Organisations like Ofcom are there to regulate what is
being broadcast to us. The last stage is what part of this
legislation does—recognise that where legislation is written for
broadcasters and the internet, it moves with the times. Often when
Ofcom has banned people they have flipped on to Facebook and
launched a broadcast channel, without any controls. So we must be
much more agile to do that...
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