Jeremy Corbyn (Islington North) (Lab) ...With fares rising above
inflation, passenger numbers falling and services being cut, does
the Prime Minister accept her failure on yet another public
service: the buses? The Prime Minister First, I absolutely agree
with the right hon. Gentleman and, I am sure, all Members...Request free trial
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...With fares rising above inflation, passenger numbers
falling and services being cut, does the Prime Minister
accept her failure on yet another public service: the
buses?
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First, I absolutely agree with the right hon. Gentleman
and, I am sure, all Members of this House that our thanks
should go to the firefighters and troops who have been
struggling to deal with the terrible fires that we have
seen on the moorlands in the north of Britain. On his
point about buses, I merely point out to him that we
should look at the responsibility that local authorities
up and down the country have for the buses.
May I also comment on the right hon. Gentleman’s remark
about putting sufficient funding into the national health
service? At the last election, the Labour party said that
giving the NHS an extra 2.2% a year would make it
“the envy of the world.”
Well, we are not giving it an extra 2.2% or, indeed, an
extra 2.5% or 3%. We are giving the NHS an extra 3.4% a
year. Now the right hon. Gentleman tries to say that that
is not enough. What should we believe—what he said before
the election or what he says after the election?
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In case the Prime Minister has forgotten, my question was
about buses. Since 2010, her Government have cut 46% from
bus budgets in England and passenger numbers have fallen,
and, among the elderly and disabled, they have fallen by
10%. Her Government belatedly committed to keeping the
free bus pass, but a bus pass is not much use if there is
not a bus. Does she think it is fair that bus fares have
risen by 13% more than inflation since 2010?
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The right hon. Gentleman says that, in his first
question, he asked about buses; he did indeed and I gave
him an answer in reference to buses. What he cannot do is
simply stand up and make assertions about what the
Government are doing without expecting those to be
challenged, which is exactly what I did on his funding
for the national health service.
It was right that we made that commitment in relation to
bus passes. What we are seeing across the country is
that, as people’s working habits are changing, there is
less usage of buses, but we are working with local
authorities on this. Local authorities have many
responsibilities in relation to buses, and I suggest that
the right hon. Gentleman asks some of those local
authorities what they are doing about the buses in their
own areas.
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Under this Government, fares have risen three times
faster than people’s pay. Bus users are often people on
lower incomes whose wages are lower than they were 10
years ago in real terms and who have suffered a
benefits-freeze. Under the stewardship of this
Government, 500 bus routes have been cut every year,
leaving many people more isolated and lonely and damaging
our local communities. Does the Prime Minister believe
that bus services are a public responsibility, or just
something that we leave to the market?
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I have made the point on two occasions about the
responsibilities that others have in relation to buses.
The right hon. Gentleman might, for example, look at what
the Mayor of London—who when I last looked was a Labour
politician—is doing in relation to buses in London. The
right hon. Gentleman talks also about the impact of fares
on lower-income people. It is important that we consider
the situation of people who are on low incomes. That is
why it is this Government who introduced the national
living wage and have increased the national living wage.
That is why it is this Government who have taken 4
million people out of paying income tax altogether. That
is helping people on low incomes in this country.
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When ran for Mayor of London,
he promised to freeze bus fares, and what has he done? He
has frozen bus fares. [Interruption.] If the Prime
Minister is concerned about the travelcard fares, she
should speak to the Secretary of State for Transport: he
is the one who sets that fare. Bus routes are being wiped
out: 26 million fewer journeys have been made across the
north of England and the midlands under her Government.
So much for a northern powerhouse and a midlands engine.
Can we be clear: does the Prime Minister think that
deregulation of the bus industry, putting profit before
passengers, has been a success or a failure?
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The right hon. Gentleman talks about what the Mayor of
London has done, but what have we seen in the number of
people using buses in London? It has gone down under the
current Mayor. If he wants to talk about what Mayors are
doing, I am very happy to talk about what , the Conservative
Mayor of the West Midlands, has done; he has extended
free bus fares to apprentices and students.
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It will be a Labour Government who save the bus industry
and who give free fares to under 26-year-olds. The truth
is that since deregulation fares have risen faster than
inflation, ridership has fallen and these private bus
monopolies have made a profit of £3.3 billion since 2010.
That is what the Tories give us in public transport. The
Government have given Metro Mayors the powers to
franchise and regulate to secure better services. Why
will they not extend that power to all local authorities?
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Of course, the local authorities have some
responsibilities and capabilities in relation to
subsidising bus routes and fares; and, yes, we have given
those powers to the Metro Mayors. The right hon.
Gentleman earlier referenced what was happening in the
northern powerhouse and the midlands engine. I will tell
him what is happening: more investment in our public
transport; more investment in our roads; and more
investment in the infrastructure that brings jobs to
people in the north and across the midlands.
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It is a shame that this Government are so shy of giving
powers to local authorities, and are instead more
interested in cutting their resources. Bus services are
in crisis under this Government. Fares are increasing,
routes are being cut and passenger numbers are falling.
The situation is isolating elderly and disabled people,
damaging communities and high streets, and leading to
more congestion in our towns and cities, with people
spending more time travelling to work or school. It is
bad for our climate change commitments and for our air
quality. Will the Prime Minister at last recognise the
crucial importance of often the only mode of transport
available for many people by ending the cuts to bus
budgets and giving councils the power to ensure that
everyone gets a regulated bus service, wherever they
live?
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I will take no lessons from the right hon. Gentleman in
devolution to local authorities. Which party has
established the Metro Mayors and given them those powers?
It is the Conservative party in government. Which party
is doing growth deals around the country, giving local
authorities new responsibilities? It is this Conservative
Government. And what did we see in the north-east? When
we were talking to Labour councils in the north-east
about a devolution deal, Labour council leaders there
rejected that devolution. That is what the Labour party
is doing. The right hon. Gentleman wants to know what
this Government are delivering for the people of the
north, the south, the midlands—for every part of this
country. We are delivering record high employment, rising
wages, falling borrowing, stronger environmental
protection and a Britain fit for the future.
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