International Trade ministers were taking questions in the Commons.
Subjects covered included... US Tariffs: Steel and Aluminium
Leaving the EU: Women’s Rights Leaving the EU: Textile
and Fashion Industry Free Trade Promotion Foreign
Direct Investment Leaving the EU: Third-country Trade Deals
Leaving the EU: Preferential Market Access...Request free trial
International Trade ministers were taking questions in the Commons.
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US Tariffs: Steel and Aluminium
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1. What recent discussions he has had with his
international counterparts on US tariffs on steel and
aluminium. [905353]
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The Prime Minister and I continue to raise our concerns
with President Trump and his Administration about the
potentially damaging impact of tariffs on our steel and
aluminium industries. We are working closely with
the US and our EU partners to secure a permanent EU
exemption to these tariffs.
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Steel tariff exemptions are vital for Tata Steel. Many
of my constituents work at Tata in Port Talbot in the
next constituency along from mine. The exemption is
welcome, but there are concerns about the US placing
quotas on steel imports, which will have a major impact
on the exports going not just from Britain but from
Europe. How does the Secretary of State see himself
protecting our export trade once we leave the European
Union and do not have its negotiating power behind us?
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When it comes to protection post EU, we will have our
own trade remedies measures. But of course the hon.
Lady and her Labour colleagues voted against our being
able to establish those when the legislation came to
the House.
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What is the Secretary of State doing with our partners
to ensure that we do not suffer from diversionary
dumping of steel as a result of what the US is doing?
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We want to see a permanent exemption so that we do not
get into that position in the first place, but we have
made it clear that we would operate with our European
partners to ensure that we took any measures necessary
that were proportionate and within international trade
law to ensure that the situation that the hon.
Gentleman describes would not happen.
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The US President seems intent on undermining the World
Trade Organisation’s multilateral rules-based system.
He is delaying the settlement of disputes by vetoing
the appointment of judges to the appellate body and is
using national security as a cover, in this case, for
naked protectionism against foreign steel and
aluminium. Does the Secretary of State still think that
Donald Trump is a man we can do business with?
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We do business with the United States Administration
because the United States is our closest strategic
partner. Where we disagree on issues such as steel, we
make our voice very clear. We do not support the use of
section 232 as a mechanism for dealing with the
overproduction of steel. That actually hits the United
States’ allies and not the designed target, which was
China. Citing national security, particularly in
Britain’s case, makes no sense at all given that some
of the steel that we send to the United States goes
into its military programmes.
Leaving the EU: Women’s Rights
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2. What steps he is taking to ensure that UK trade
with developing countries promotes women’s rights after
the UK leaves the EU. [905354]
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The UK is committed to promoting equality and
women’s rights in trade in the UK and around the
world. We have taken decisive steps to
recognise the role of trade in promoting gender
equality by signing the WTO’s joint declaration on
women’s economic empowerment. We also
launched at the Commonwealth Heads of Government
meeting last month the SheTrades Commonwealth
programme, which will boost participation of
women-owned businesses in trade.
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I very much welcome that answer because a well-designed
trade policy can positively transform women’s social
and economic rights in developing countries. If that is
not the case, that can destroy livelihoods, undercut
wages and damage vital public services. Will the
Minister commit to publishing an assessment of the
impact on women of every trade deal that he signs with
developing countries?
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I agree with the thrust of the hon. Gentleman’s
question. I commend the work of some key
non-governmental organisations in this space,
particularly ActionAid UK. The matter of impact
assessments is one for future trade policy and future
trade agreements. However, we are not waiting on that
to make a difference on ensuring that women can
participate fully in trade. I point him to a recent
study by McKinsey that showed that, if women
participated in the economy on an equal basis to men,
there would be an increase of 26% in world GDP—the
equivalent of an economy the size of the US and China
put together.
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We drove this agenda in the EU. Is not the danger
rather that, bereft of our influence, the EU will
backslide?
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My right hon. Friend is quite right: the UK has been a
key driver of that agenda. He is also right that the
EU27 may well take a different approach. However, the
UK approach remains strongly and resolutely in favour
of promoting gender equality in trade and making sure
that trade works particularly for women entrepreneurs,
who make up a disproportionate part of the online
entrepreneurial community.
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This will be my last outing as the Scottish National
party trade spokesman; I will be moving to pastures new
in Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. I want to put on
the record my thanks to the Secretary of State and his
team. While we do not always agree—in fact, rarely—our
discussions and exchanges are always respectful and
lively.
The 2013 Rana Plaza disaster is a prime example of how
growth in export industries can have devastating
results, particularly for women and girls. Jobs were
created that were unsafe and had exploitative
conditions for the largely female factory workers. Can
the Minister assure the House and indeed everyone
across the UK that any trade deals he does will not
result in the exploitation of anyone, in particular
women and girls?
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May I say to the hon. Lady that I hope in her new role
the sky will be just as blue?
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May I first commend the hon. Lady for the constructive
role she has taken? She and I have worked together
particularly to try to benefit certain businesses in
Livingston, her constituency, and in terms of her wider
brief.
Yes, of course, we are absolutely committed that future
trade agreements will pay heed to the importance of
gender rights and a whole series of other rights in
those agreements. What we can do, however, in the
meantime is make sure that the trade agenda fully
recognises gender equality, particularly, as I have
mentioned, in relation to the Commonwealth and the WTO.
We were one of the 120 WTO members at Buenos Aires in
December that adopted the joint declaration on trade
and women’s economic empowerment.
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The Minister often remarks that trade has pulled
millions of women out of poverty, but in the Trade Bill
Committee the Government voted against ensuring that
future trade deals fully comply with the convention on
the elimination of all forms of discrimination against
women. Has he changed his mind on this and, if so, will
he ensure that future trade deals contain effective
mechanisms that protect women in the global supply
chain from exploitation, poverty wages and the
suppression of trade union rights?
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I gently remind the hon. Lady that she of course voted
against the Trade Bill in its entirety on Second
Reading, which I think is always worth remembering.
Secondly, I would say that we will take no lessons from
Labour in this space because the UK has been a leader,
over the last eight years, in making sure that this
agenda is taken up at the WTO, at the European Union
and at CHOGM. When it comes to future trade agreements
and future trade policies around those trade
agreements, that will be a matter for future proposals,
as she well knows.
Leaving the EU: Textile and Fashion Industry
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3. What plans he has to secure export markets and
inward investment for the UK textile and fashion
industry after the UK leaves the
EU. [R] [905356]
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I am delighted to tell the hon. Lady that 2017 saw our
fashion and textile exports up 6%, that a new creative
industries trade and investment board is being created
and that trade associations are being extensively
consulted ahead of the launch of our new export
strategy.
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I am chair of the textile and fashion all-party group,
and this week we held a wonderful Commonwealth fashion
event, with diversity, talent and young design on show.
However, there are issues in terms of intellectual
property rights and passporting, so would the Minister
demonstrate his flair for fashion and attend the
all-party group to discuss these issues?
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I pay tribute to the hon. Lady. This week, the meeting
was on the Commonwealth; the last meeting, I believe,
was on China. She is doing a great job with the APPG,
focusing on the importance of fashion to the UK
economy. It goes without saying that, however poorly
dressed I am that day, I will be thrilled to go along
and meet the much more fashionable members of that
APPG.
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For more than 220 years, Johnstons of Elgin has been
producing some of the finest-quality cashmere clothing,
fabrics and accessories. Will the Minister continue to
support this great industry, and will he explain what
the UK Government are doing to ensure we have more
export markets for the textile industry?
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I thank my hon. Friend for his question. He is right.
Inward investment in Scotland has included Chanel
buying Barrie in Hawick and we have trade working
groups covering 21 countries. The very formation of
this Department means that for the first time we have a
Department of State only focused on our international
economic competitiveness. For the fashion industry, for
Scotland and for the whole of the UK, we will aim to
work flat out to build our exports and improve the
levels of investment into this country.
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In a moment we will hear from the hon. Member for
Huddersfield (Mr Sheerman). He has been chuntering from
a sedentary position about the suit worn by the right
hon. Member for New Forest West (Sir Desmond Swayne),
apparently expressing the hope that it was made in west
Yorkshire. That is not a matter for the Chair—I have no
idea. It seems to me a most admirable suit, but I have
no idea where it was made.
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Unlike you, Mr Speaker, the Minister has never been to
Huddersfield or visited the Textile Centre of
Excellence. I keep inviting Ministers, but I think they
are worried because Huddersfield, which is a great
centre in the premier league for fashion, has many
employers who are fearful about the future and the 90%
drop in inward investment in our country. There is real
worry about the penetration of European markets after
Brexit.
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I am pleased to say that the fashion sense of the good
people in the hon. Gentleman’s constituency is
different from his—that is why they are so well
dressed. Not only that, but they have a different,
optimistic view about the future of the UK outside the
European Union, and that is why, unlike the hon.
Gentleman, they voted overwhelmingly to leave.
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On a point of order, Mr Speaker. My constituents voted
to remain. The Minister is misleading the House.
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I am sure it was inadvertent. There was not going to be
further discussion on this question, but the effect of
raising a point of order in mid-question is to preclude
any further supplementary questions on the matter. In
this case, however, the crime is victimless.
Free Trade Promotion
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4. What steps his Department has taken to promote
the merits of free trade to the
public. [905357]
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11. What steps his Department has taken to promote
the merits of free trade to the
public. [905367]
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The UK champions the opportunities created by free
trade. As I said in my lecture at Speaker’s House last
month, free trade increases prosperity, stability and,
in turn, security. My Department engages businesses and
the public to set out the economic and moral case for
free trade: better UK jobs, consumer access to
high-quality, well-priced goods and services, and
lifting people in the developing world out of poverty.
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I thank the Secretary of State for his reply. Forecasts
suggest that 90% of economic growth in the coming years
will be in countries outside the EU. Does he agree that
that gives this country great opportunities to extend
our trade with developing nations, which will be of
great benefit to them?
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I agree with my hon. Friend that that provides enormous
opportunities. Free trade has helped to lift more than
1 billion people out of poverty since 1990, and we will
do all we can to continue to support the liberalisation
of trade with developing countries. Indeed, we
demonstrated that commitment by announcing £18 million
to support the WTO’s enhanced integration framework in
December at Buenos Aires.
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A slightly surprising grouping, Mr Speaker. Does the
Secretary of State agree that the public might be even
more strongly in favour of free trade if they are
completely convinced that the right remedies are in
place for goods that come from countries that are
perhaps not quite as keen on free trade as we are? The
ceramics industry, for example, has a big base in my
constituency, so will he ensure that, when we import
products from countries that have a state-distorted
market, the right powers are in place in the Bill?
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I am grateful for the support that my hon. Friend gives
to the ceramics industry. It is, of course, necessary
to have an international rules-based system. Where we
have problems with that, it is our duty to try to
improve it, not to try to break or leave the system.
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What optimistic free trade message is the Secretary of
State going to give to Welsh hill farmers or Suffolk
sugar beet growers?
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The same message that I would give to everybody: free
trade is of benefit to consumers and producers alike in
the UK and to our trading partners. As I said, it has
been one of the main tools through which we have
alleviated global poverty.
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One thing that free trade depends on is investment.
What steps is my right hon. Friend taking to promote
outward direct investment by the UK to help those
countries with which we would like to engage in greater
free trade?
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The Government have recently completed a number of
pilot projects on outward direct investment, and ODI
can be a major adjunct to our development agenda. I
recently visited a Jaguar Land Rover dealership in
Johannesburg. It is not only promoting the sale of UK
goods abroad, but providing apprenticeships in
mechanics and salesmanship for some of the most
deprived young people in Johannesburg. Trade and
development can go hand in hand.
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Those who advocate protectionism often claim that free
trade means a free-for-all. It is not. May I urge the
Secretary of State to make it clear that free trade
means trading within the rule of law, with clear
remedies to the benefit of everyone?
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The WTO and the rules-based system is under attack, it
has to be said, today. If the WTO did not exist we
would have to invent it. There is a need for a
rules-based system, otherwise we would have a
free-for-all. The alternative to a rules-based system
is a deals-based system, which might be fine for some
of the biggest economies but would not help many of the
smaller developing economies. It is our moral duty to
ensure that there is fair play across trade.
Foreign Direct Investment
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5. What steps his Department is taking to increase
the level of foreign direct investment into the
UK. [905359]
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To ensure that we continue to be a global leader in
attracting foreign direct investment, the Department
for International Trade has launched a new FDI strategy
that will deliver new ways to target support for those
projects that create the most value for investors and
national wealth. I am pleased to say that 2016-17 was a
record year for FDI projects landing in the UK, showing
that the fundamentals of the UK economy are strong.
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Will my right hon. Friend tell me why, in his
assessment, investors choose to invest in the UK?
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We regularly ask our investors why they put money in
the UK and the answers are very similar. They say that
the British legal system provides certainty and
predictability. We have a skilled workforce. We have a
good, predictable regulatory system and a low-taxation
economy. We speak English. We have some of the best
universities and some of the best access to tech, and
we are in a good time zone for global trading. None of
those, incidentally, depends on our membership of the
European Union.
Leaving the EU: Third-country Trade Deals
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6. What assessment he has made of the potential
benefits to the UK arising from third-country trade
deals after the UK leaves the EU. [905361]
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Leaving the EU means, for the first time in over 40
years, we will from next March be able to sign and
ratify new trade deals. We are currently party to
about 40 international trade agreements and are
committed to securing continuity of those
agreements. We have also established 14 trade
working groups in major markets to explore the best
ways of developing new trade and investment
relationships post Brexit.
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I thank my right hon. Friend for that answer. He will
know, as I do, that international regulatory standards
are what fuel international trade. For the continuation
of those deals and opportunities, does he agree that
regulatory alignment will be necessary to secure the
best British deals post Brexit?
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As my hon. Friend will know, we have some good news for
him about the implementation period. The UK will be
party to those deals up to the end of December 2020. He
is also right that there is a very important
read-across between what is agreed with the EU on
standards, rules of origin and so on. Our commitment
remains absolute to have high standards and to
encourage the use of broad international global
standards of the highest quality.
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10. Ministers have said that trade with
Commonwealth countries will be important after Brexit
and the Minister will be aware that currently our
trading arrangements with many African and Caribbean
Commonwealth countries are by virtue of the Cotonou
agreement, which is due to be renegotiated during the
transition period. Will the Minister say what trade
arrangements he expects we will have with those
countries once the new agreement with the EU takes
effect? [905366]
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As I say, up to the end of 2020, the UK will remain
party to those agreements as they stand. We are also
putting in significant efforts to make sure that the
substance of those agreements rolls over beyond that.
That is why we have signed memorandums of understanding
with, for example, the South African Development
Community—the South African customs area—CARIFORUM and
the eastern and southern African economic partnership
agreement group. That is work that is making good
progress.
Leaving the EU: Preferential Market Access
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7. What steps he is taking to ensure that the UK
maintains preferential market access to those countries
with which it currently has such access as a member of
the EU after leaving the EU. [905362]
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The Government are committed to securing continuity of
existing EU trade agreements and other preferential
arrangements as we leave the EU. The draft
withdrawal agreement confirms EU international
agreements continue to apply to the UK during the
implementation period. We are working to ensure
continuity of those arrangements after that.
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The REACH—registration, evaluation, authorisation and
restriction of chemicals—regulations that govern
production and other standards are critical to
countless chemical companies in my Stockton North
constituency and beyond for trade across the world.
Will the Minister update the House on the progress to
retain them when we leave the EU?
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I met the chemicals industry earlier this week—in line
with other industries—in a very useful roundtable at
the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy. That work to make sure that the UK benefits
from the best possible rules as we go forward is
ongoing.
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Does the Minister agree that one of the big
opportunities from leaving the EU is that we can
negotiate trade deals that best suit the UK, rather
than being tied into the other 27 member states?
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My hon. Friend makes a very important point. That is
why we have these 14 trade working groups with major
markets around the world. We are in active discussions
with those counterparts and we have the benefit, from
March next year, of the ability to negotiate, sign and
ratify trade agreements with them.
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First, the Government said that they were simply
rolling over these agreements on precisely the same
terms. Then they admitted that they would have to amend
the agreements with Norway, Turkey and Switzerland to
avoid rolling over such things as the customs union or
the four freedoms that they would rather avoid, but the
Minister has still not explained what process this
sovereign Parliament will undertake to ensure that
these important new agreements are subjected to proper
democratic scrutiny. When will he?
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We had significant exchanges on this during the Trade
Bill Committee and the scrutiny arrangements are
enshrined in that Bill, which I note again that the
hon. Gentleman voted against. He will also know that
these agreements have already been scrutinised in this
House under existing EU scrutiny procedures, and there
are precise arrangements set out in the Bill for how we
go forward from here.
Commonwealth Countries: Trade Agreements
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8. What progress he made on potential trade
agreements with Commonwealth countries at the
Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in April
2018. [905363]
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My Department continues to work with the 24
Commonwealth countries that are part of the EU’s
economic partnership agreements or other preferential
arrangements to ensure that there is no disruption to
our existing trade. We also have regular discussions
with Australia and New Zealand on our future bilateral
trading relationships through our trade working groups.
With Canada, we already have an agreement in place in
CETA—the comprehensive economic and trade
agreement—which will form the basis of a UK-Canada
agreement once we have left the European Union.
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That is good news. Firms in my constituency such as
GKN-Melrose, Vestas and BAE Systems export across the
Commonwealth and the wider world. Is my right hon.
Friend confident that post Brexit, we will be able to
continue and grow that trade?
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Very confident. I pay tribute to the companies such as
BAE and GKN that he mentions in his constituency, which
are exemplary exporters. We intend to have an open and
comprehensive trade agreement with the European Union.
We intend to take advantage of the fact that the
International Monetary Fund says that 90% of the global
trade increase will be outside Europe in the next 10 to
15 years, and we have a new export strategy to support
all exporters, including the ones that he mentions in
his constituency.
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Ironically, a trade deal between India and the European
Union is more likely to be agreed by the remaining
EU27, as two of the main stumbling blocks are whisky
and visas, which mainly involve the United Kingdom.
Therefore, will the Secretary of State advise me, the
House and my constituents at the Auchentoshan
distillery and the Loch Lomond distillery how they will
seek to overcome that when the Government will be all
alone?
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One of the main problems with India, of course, is the
tariff that it applies on whisky. We have been involved
in a trade review with India for some months now, and
part of the process is to look at the areas where we
require liberalisation to bring our two economies close
enough to be able to consider a free trade agreement.
The high tariff applied on Scotch whisky by India is
one of the impediments, and we continue to urge them to
reduce that.
EU Free Trade Agreements
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9. If he will take steps to ensure that the UK has
third-party membership of current EU free trade
agreements to maintain compliance with rules of origin
requirements after the UK leaves the
EU. [905365]
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Since the draft withdrawal agreement confirms that
international agreements continue to apply to the UK
during the implementation period, common rules of
origin will remain until the end of 2020. We are
keen, of course, to avoid disruption to supply chains,
so we are working to secure continuity after this.
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I am sure the Minister has met motor manufacturers who
have warned that they will simply not be able to meet
the 60% local content requirement under rules of origin
if EU components cannot be included. At present, the UK
content is between about 40% and 44%. How will the
Minister address that?
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I think the hon. Lady is referring to the EU’s current
set of more than 40 agreements with more than 70
counterparts. That is a matter for active discussions.
We are obviously trying to secure the best possible
deal for UK motor manufacturers, not only those
involved with the finished product but those who
provide the components, as part of our talks with third
parties.
Topical Questions
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T1. If he will make a statement on his departmental
responsibilities. [905368]
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My Department is responsible for foreign and outward
direct investment, for establishing an independent trade
policy, and for export promotion. I am delighted to
announce that my Department recently appointed John Mahon
as our new director general for exports; he will oversee
the delivery of the Government’s export strategy. Later
today, my fellow Ministers and I will be in Stirling for
the third meeting of the Board of Trade.
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In the light of the latest mass killing of Palestinian
civilians by the Israel Defence Forces, will the
Secretary of State review and apply the criteria for arms
sales to states that violate international law?
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The UK has one of the most robust arms export systems,
which we operate under the consolidated criteria in line
with our EU partners.
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I welcome the Department’s focus on international trade.
I am delighted to hear that the Redditch eastern gateway
is included in a project and strategy that the Secretary
of State will announce today. Will he update the House on
what he will do to bring much-needed international
investment into Redditch?
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Later today I shall outline a project to attract £30
billion of foreign direct investment to the United
Kingdom. Many projects, such as the one mentioned by my
hon. Friend, are not necessarily visible to global
investors, but our new website will ensure that we can
attract more investment in middle-sized opportunities,
which will genuinely help to bring prosperity to
constituencies such as my hon. Friend’s.
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T3. In 2017, Britain sold £216 million worth of
military contracts and supplies to Israel and £571
million worth to Turkey. The disproportionate use of
deadly force by those nations against Palestinian and
Kurdish citizens has been rightly condemned. Does the
Minister agree that the UK needs a transparent and human
rights-oriented arms trade to ensure that this country
does not enable brutal attacks to be made on
civilians? [905370]
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All export licence applications are rigorously assessed,
case by case, against the consolidated EU and national
arms export licensing criteria. No licence will be
granted if there is a clear risk that the equipment might
be used for internal repression, or in a serious
violation of international humanitarian law. However, we
continue to monitor the situation in Israel and Gaza
closely.
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T2. I hope that the Secretary of State enjoyed his
recent visit to Aberdeen, which is probably the most
productive part of Scotland, let alone the United
Kingdom. Does he agree that the oil and gas industry is a
deserving recipient of the export finance that is
boosting that valuable sector? [905369]
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I did indeed enjoy my visit to Aberdeen, where I was able
to chair a roundtable of companies from across the oil
and gas industries as well as meeting senior figures from
the Wood Group. Representatives of UK Export Finance were
present at both meetings, and, as my hon. Friend will
know, we are more than happy for UKEF facilities to be
made available to the sector.
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T4. Given the uncertainty over the future customs
arrangements between this country and the rest of Europe,
what steps is the Department taking to ensure that
training is provided for the additional customs officials
who will be needed to deal with the probable extra
workload? [905372]
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That is not, in fact, the duty of the Department. Her
Majesty’s Revenue and Customs is responsible for customs
in the United Kingdom. None the less, HMRC has received
extra funds from the Treasury to ensure that preparations
are made for Brexit.
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The UK defence and aerospace industry plays a vital role
in the country’s prosperity, and Farnborough, in my
constituency, has a special place at the heart of it.
What steps is the Department taking to support the
industry, and will the Secretary of State kindly confirm
that members of his team will attend the Farnborough
international air show in July?
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I can certainly give that assurance to my hon. Friend. He
will also know that in order to improve the functioning
of our defence and security exports we are reorganising
the Defence and Security Organisation so as to separate
the defence from the security elements, because they
require different levels and types of Government
intervention and contact. I want to ensure that the
appropriate skills are there to maximise our defence and
security exports.
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T5. What is the Secretary of State doing to secure
more trade with India? [905373]
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It was my pleasure to address the hon. Gentleman’s
all-party group on India only last week, and we have a
huge success story. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of
State has talked about the trade audit—the trade
review—that we have done with India. I can also report
that bilateral trade has increased by 15% over the last
year, and we remain the largest G20 investor in India,
with British companies currently employing around 788,000
people in India.
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It was a pleasure to welcome the Secretary of State to my
constituency last week where he could see that, from food
and drink to oil and gas, Aberdeen is best placed to take
on the opportunities of Brexit. I thank my right hon.
Friend’s Department for promoting Aberdeen’s £150 million
Queen’s Square project this afternoon. Will my right hon.
Friend update the House on the benefits to Scotland of
extending the high potential opportunity scheme, and does
it not show that Scotland is better off in the United
Kingdom?
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One of the benefits of having a UK-wide Department is
that we are able to use economies of scale to lever
international investment into the whole of the United
Kingdom. My hon. Friend will be aware that a number of
projects in Scotland are being highlighted today during
our visit to Stirling, and it is much better to have a
UK-wide Department able to bring investment to all parts
of the United Kingdom than to have it broken up and
fragmented.
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