Mr Philip Hollobone (in the Chair) We now come to a debate
about progress on the Government’s skills strategy, in which we
will hear from the former skills Minister and the present one.
Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con) I beg to move, That this
House has considered progress on the Government’s skills strategy.
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Mr (in the
Chair)
We now come to a debate about progress on the Government’s
skills strategy, in which we will hear from the former skills
Minister and the present one.
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(Harlow) (Con)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered progress on the Government’s
skills strategy.
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Hollobone. One thing that has remained remarkably consistent
as I have spoken to business leaders in my constituency over
many years is that, when I ask them what they look for in
their future workforce, their answer does not often focus on
exam certificates. They want individuals who have a good
attitude and are good communicators, excellent problem
solvers and strong team players. Yet, barely a day goes by
without a story in the news about skills shortages in one
sector or another.
It is a drain on our economy and our society that job
vacancies cannot be filled because employers are unable to
find the right skilled individuals. That is not just a
challenge to productivity and prosperity; skills are a social
justice issue too—perhaps the central one. When we look at
the overwhelming number of senior leaders who were privately
educated—I am lucky to be one of them—it is not so much their
exam results that got them where they are today, but the
connections they were able to make and the networks and
team-working skills they developed. If we are serious about
social justice, it is our duty to afford those opportunities
to all young people.
Since the closure of the UK Commission for Employment and
Skills, no single organisation has had responsibility for
monitoring skills shortages and sharing information about
them, so I was delighted when the Edge Foundation stepped
forward to form an analysis group, bringing together key
organisations in the area. I pay tribute to the foundation’s
chair, Lord Baker. The first in a regular series of its
bulletin is published today, and it makes for challenging
reading—I will happily ensure that copies are available to
Members.
The British Chambers of Commerce report says that 60% of
services firms and 69% of manufacturing firms experience
recruitment difficulties.
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(Henley) (Con)
Will my right hon. Friend join me in congratulating the
Culham Science Centre in my constituency? It has got together
an apprenticeship hub that specialises in providing high-tech
engineering apprenticeships for local people, and it has
transformed how local firms react to those skills.
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My hon. Friend is a champion of skills and apprenticeships,
and the Culham laboratory is exactly what we need to build up
our skills base and address our skills deficit. I pay tribute
to my hon. Friend and to the organisation he mentions.
Shortages of skilled manual labour in manufacturing remain at
their highest level since records began. That concern is
echoed by the CBI, whose education and skills survey last
year showed that the number of businesses that are not
confident about being able to hire enough skilled labour is
twice that of those that are confident. Reducing the skills
shortages must be a key aim of our skills strategy and a
barometer of its success.
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(Strangford) (DUP)
I congratulate the right hon. Gentleman on bringing the issue
to Westminster Hall. Northern Ireland has a very strong
education and IT skills system, which has been key in
creating jobs and attracting new business. Does he feel that
the Government should be encouraged to look to Northern
Ireland as an example of how a skills strategy can be brought
together? There are good examples there. Let us use what is
good in the rest of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Northern Ireland to benefit us all.
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The hon. Gentleman is a great champion of skills. We can
learn a lot from Northern Ireland’s incredibly high education
standards. I am sure we have a lot to learn from the skills
and the IT that he has just mentioned.
I recognise that my right hon. Friend the Minister for
Apprenticeships and Skills has her work cut out because, as
the skills strategy is implemented, the economy is changing
rapidly. Driverless vehicles will automate road haulage and
taxi operations. Artificial intelligence will power medical
diagnosis, and 3D printing will be used to construct bridges
and houses. Our skills strategy needs to not only address the
skills shortages in our economy, but create our most
resilient and adaptable generation of young people. They will
need to be able to turn their hands to new careers and
demonstrate the human skills such as creativity that robots
cannot master.
CBI research shows that the biggest drivers of success for
young people are attitudes and attributes such as resilience,
enthusiasm and creativity. Although 86% of businesses rated
attitude, and 68% aptitude, as a top attribute, only 34% said
the same of formal qualifications. The Department for
Education’s own employer perspectives survey showed that more
than half of employers said that academic qualifications were
of little or no value when recruiting, while two thirds said
that work experience was significant or critical. Yet in the
same survey just 58% of businesses said that 18-year-old
school leavers in England were prepared for work. That is a
key blocker to social justice and a gap that must be
addressed through the skills strategy.
Before they are delivered into the care of the Minister for
Apprenticeships and Skills, young people have already
received more than a decade of education in school. As I said
in the House only a couple of weeks ago, I am convinced that
the quality of education, particularly in English and maths,
has improved greatly in recent years. Yet despite record
overall levels of public money going into schools, the skills
shortages in our economy have been growing. Clearly,
something has become disconnected in the wiring between our
schools and our skills systems.
Four key steps would build on the strength of the
knowledge-rich curriculum to ensure that it fosters young
people who are also skills-rich and behaviours-rich—the areas
that employers say they value most. First, we must remember
that since 2015 all young people have been required to
participate in some form of education and training up to 18.
Yet GCSEs remain just as much the high-stakes tests they were
when many young people finished their education at that age.
We must fundamentally reimagine this phase of education as a
time for our younger people to prepare themselves for their
future life and work. At a time when we can extend the ladder
of social justice to young people from all backgrounds,
broadening their horizons, building their skills and helping
them develop the social capital that will take them far, we
have an opportunity for that phase of education to end in a
much more holistic and comprehensive assessment—a true
baccalaureate. Just as the international baccalaureate does
in more than 149 countries, this would act as a genuine and
trusted signal to employers and universities of a young
person’s rounded skills and abilities.
Secondly, we must match the broader phase of education with a
broader and more balanced curriculum. I support the need for
every young person to be able to access through their
schooling a working knowledge of our cultural capital, our
history and our literature. However, it is also essential
that we develop the next generation of engineers,
entrepreneurs and designers. A narrow focus on academic GCSEs
is driving out the very subjects that most help us to do
that. Entrants in design and technology have fallen by more
than two fifths since 2010, alongside reductions in creative
subjects such as music and the performing arts—the very
skills that will give young people an edge over the robots.
There is a real danger that no matter how hard the Minister
for Apprenticeships and Skills works to make skills a success
post 16, young people who have never experienced anything but
an academic diet up to that age will be unable to compete for
an apprenticeship or even progress to a T-level.
Thirdly, I often speak about the importance of careers
advice, and it is vital, but we must go further and create
deep connections between the world of education and the world
of work that inspire and motivate young people. I am talking
about employers providing externships so that teachers can
experience local businesses and provide first-hand advice to
their pupils, collaborating on projects that bring the
curriculum to life and sharing real-world challenges to help
students to develop their problem-solving skills. That kind
of profound employer engagement strikes right at the heart of
the social justice debate: it gives young people from all
backgrounds the kinds of experiences, contacts and networks
that have traditionally been the preserve of those attending
elite institutions. We should merge the duplicate careers
organisations into a national skills service that goes into
schools and ensures that students have the opportunity to do
skills-based careers.
Fourthly, we must acknowledge that what we measure affects
what is delivered in the education system. Therefore, we
should start to measure explicitly what really matters—the
destinations of young people who attend our schools and
colleges. At present, destination measures are seen as no
more than a footnote in performance tables. We need to move
destination measures front and centre, giving school leaders
and teachers the freedom to deliver the outcomes that we want
for our young people.
I had the pleasure last month of meeting senior education
leaders from Nashville, Tennessee. Ten years ago, Nashville’s
high schools had very poor rates of graduation, and
businesses were clear that they were not receiving the
skilled labour that they needed. They set about working
intensively with the school board to revolutionise the
system. In the first year of their high school experience,
young people have the opportunity to take part in intensive
careers exploration: through careers fairs, mentoring, visits
and job research, they broaden their horizons and understand
the full range of opportunities available. For the remainder
of their time at high school, they join a career academy,
which uses a particular sector of the local economy as a lens
to make their schoolwork more relevant and engaging. Young
people in the law academy learn debating skills by running
mock trials, while those in the creative academy are mentored
by lighting designers, who help them to understand the
relevance of angles, fractions and programming in the real
world.
The results are extraordinary. High school graduation has
risen by more than 23% in 10 years, adding more than $100
million to the local economy. Attainment in maths and English
has improved by as much as 15% to 20% as young people see the
relevance of their work. Leading schools in the UK are
already starting to show that similar approaches work just as
well here. They range from School 21 in Stratford, where
employer engagement is its ninth GCSE, to XP School in
Doncaster, whose innovative expeditionary learning Ofsted has
judged as outstanding across the board.
The planned programme of skills reforms can be a success only
if it goes hand in hand with a schools system that is equally
focused on preparing young people for work and adult life. I
would encourage the Ministers responsible for skills and for
schools to work closely together on that shared aim. I have
no doubt that T-levels can provide great opportunities for
young people to prepare for a successful career, and I am
impatient to see them on the ground, having a tangible impact
on young people’s lives. I would encourage the skills
Minister to learn from some of our most prestigious
apprenticeship employers and attach a rocket booster to the
programme, but sometimes I wonder whether there is really a
need at age 16 for young people to choose between a wholly
academic route and a wholly technical route. Might many young
people benefit from a more blended opportunity?
An excellent model exists north of the border in Scotland’s
foundation apprenticeships, which are the same size as a
single Scottish higher and can be taken alongside academic
qualifications to maximise a young person’s options. They
carry real currency with universities and support progression
to higher education. They also allow a head start of up to
nine months on a full modern apprenticeship. That is truly a
no-wrong-door approach that helps people to keep their
options open.
I want apprenticeships to go from strength to strength. Most
people think of apprenticeships as helping young people to
achieve full competency in their future career, but the
figures show that in the 2016-17 academic year, 260,000 of
the 491,000 apprenticeships started were at level 2, and
229,000 were started by individuals aged 25 and above. It is
essential that apprenticeships continue to focus first and
foremost on preparing young people for skilled jobs,
otherwise we will weaken one of the rungs on the ladder of
opportunity.
Continuing the expansion of degree apprenticeships—my two
favourite words in the English language—will play a pivotal
role in that. They hold the unique power to fundamentally
address the issue of parity of esteem between academic and
vocational education, which has plagued this country for far
too long. They give young people the opportunity to learn and
earn at the same time, gaining a full bachelor’s or master’s
degree while putting that learning into practice in a real
paid job. Leading employers are already making a dramatic
shift from graduate to degree apprenticeship recruitment,
which allows them to shape their future workforce. More must
follow suit.
I recently came across an example of a remarkable university
from Germany, DHBW Stuttgart, which is entirely made up of
degree apprentices. I issue a challenge to our higher
education institutions, including Oxford University, which
will not even open the door to degree apprenticeships, to be
the first to declare their intention to work towards becoming
the first dedicated provider of degree apprenticeships.
We are at an exciting crossroads for the skills system.
Employers are clear that there are significant and growing
skills shortages, but they have given us a clear recipe to
address them. The foundation for that must be laid in school
by a broad and balanced curriculum, intensive employer
engagement, and destination measures as a key driver of
success. That will create the basis for a holistic system
that prepares young people for high-quality T-levels and
apprenticeships as part of a blended route that breaks down
the artificial divide between academic and technical
education to create a real ladder of opportunity for our
young people.
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The Minister for Apprenticeships and Skills (Anne
Milton)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Hollobone. I congratulate my right hon. Friend the Member
for Harlow (Robert Halfon) on securing the debate. I am
grateful for the opportunity to talk in broader terms. I
have a great pile of briefings from my wonderful officials,
which I will not refer to at all, because I would be
telling him things that he probably already knows. He makes
a wider point about why skills matter, and he is absolutely
right that we have a significant skills shortage in this
country.
I was at the WorldSkills competition in Abu Dhabi last
year, and there was also a conference where I met many
Ministers from Germany and Singapore—there were a whole
host of them there. It is clear that we have a world skills
shortage; it is not just in this country, although some
countries are perhaps doing slightly better. One of the
Ministers I talked to attributed their success in technical
education, particularly at levels 4 and 5, largely to
embedding maths and English so well in the curriculum. When
young people came out of that skills system, it was a given
that they had reached a high standard, so they could get on
and take the academic or technical route that they wanted.
As my right hon. Friend rightly said, surrounding all that
is this country’s economic need for a skilled workforce,
but it is also about social justice. I did not go to
private school and I did not have the networks that my
right hon. Friend referred to, which many people have. In
fact, I entered politics knowing almost nothing and
absolutely nobody. I had to make it up on my own, which was
fine for me—I chose politics as a second career—but it is
not all right for a young person leaving school at whatever
age. It should not be about who someone knows or actually
about what they know, or where they live or where they come
from; it should be about what skills they have.
My right hon. Friend talked about what employers are
looking for. Like him, I have heard that reiterated to me
time and again. It is about resilience, attitude, team
playing, problem solving and aptitude. Those will not be
learned only in the classroom. He also talked about the
narrow focus of the curriculum. In some ways, there has
been a focus on some of those academic subjects for exactly
the reason a Minister from another country pointed out to
me: a good foundation in certain key subjects, such as
English, maths and digital skills, is important. However,
it is also important to widen young people’s eyes to the
opportunities that are out there.
My right hon. Friend talked about employer experience,
which is critical, particularly for children who are not
doing particularly well at school, who are bored in lessons
and who do not understand the point of it. Contact with
employers demonstrates to them why they are learning those
things. It gives them a goal and an aim; it makes it all
make sense. Without that it is much harder, particularly
for people who, for whatever reason—not necessarily to do
with how bright they are—find school slightly more
challenging.
Experience of the working world also prepares children to
go on to the next stage. I am a mother of four children,
and all four worked weekend jobs when they could, and
certainly during the holidays. That gave them invaluable
experience, because the errors they made will have stood
them in very good stead when they went to university or
into a job after leaving school.
My right hon. Friend is quite right that the glue around
that is the provision of careers advice. Ever since I was
at school, which was a very long time ago, I do not think
we have got that right. The careers strategy that we
published last year is a step in exactly the right
direction. It is not necessarily particularly tidy, but the
way to reach young people these days is not simply an
hour-long lesson with a careers teacher; it has to be much
more than that. At the end of the previous Parliament, he
was responsible for changes to the Bill that meant that
providers of technical education and of apprenticeships
must be allowed into schools, which opens young people’s
eyes to other possibilities.
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A difficulty in my constituency is that the sixth-form
colleges do apprenticeships and skills training very well
but ordinary schools do not; they are still wedded to an
academic view of life. Does my right hon. Friend share my
view?
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Yes. My hon. Friend mentioned an organisation in his
constituency and its apprenticeship hub, and I commend that
local initiative. I have seen something similar down in
Gosport that showed an absolutely groundbreaking attitude.
He is right that careers advice in schools has
traditionally not always been very good.
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I thank my right hon. Friend for what she said. She
mentioned the legislation ensuring that schools have to
invite apprenticeship organisations and university
technical colleges into schools and further education
colleges. What is she doing to enforce that? There are
suggestions—and there have been a number of reports—that
schools are not actually implementing the legislation.
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I am very mindful of that, which is why I have frequent
meetings—I think weekly or every other week; certainly once a
month—with the careers team in the Department for Education.
The need to do this was introduced only in January, so we are
in quite early days, but I will watch this, because the proof
of the pudding will be in whether it actually happens.
My right hon. Friend rightly pointed out that teachers could
do with some of this advice, because a classroom teacher
might have left school, gone to university and got their
degree, done their teaching qualification in whatever way
they wanted, and never experienced the world of work outside
the institutional school environment, and that experience is
critical. I suggested that to a number of careers
professionals the other day. It would be really worthwhile,
particularly in the local economy, so that teachers
understand the needs of local businesses and can tailor their
whole approach to them. A career is what someone does after
school, and that should be the thread that runs through
everything they do within school. Otherwise, if someone is
like I was at school, they will say, “What’s the point of all
this?” That is absolutely critical.
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I will not hold the Minister back for long. In my
intervention on the right hon. Member for Harlow (Robert
Halfon), I suggested perhaps looking at the Northern Ireland
system, where education and IT skills are coming together. I
wonder whether the Minister has had a chance to consider
that.
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The hon. Gentleman is right; the Government should not be too
proud to learn from anywhere that is doing well. We have set
off on a course, but it is not restricted and I will pick up
on anything that makes this process work.
We have seen good progress, certainly on raising the quality
of apprenticeships. We have gone from 3% of apprenticeships
on standards up to 36%, which is well beyond what we
expected. We are making progress. The opening up of degree
apprenticeships is critical, and my right hon. Friend is
right that it will help achieve that parity of esteem for
apprenticeships. I think we will start to see a huge tide of
degree apprenticeships coming forward, because employers will
get not only people with the required academic
qualifications, but people with the skills. For a young
person leaving school, of course, it is a no-brainer; they
are getting paid, they are getting a qualification and they
will have no student debt. What is not to like about that?
Achieving that parity of esteem is important. My right hon.
Friend talked about a holistic education, which is so
important. There is a wonderful scheme in my patch—I was with
it on Friday—whereby one of the independent schools provides
a year’s worth of stringed instrument teaching to year 3
pupils. It is funded by the local community foundation. Royal
Grammar School Guildford has been really supportive. That
increases young people’s knowledge of things. They will not
necessarily all go on to learn an instrument, but it widens
and broadens their experience, so they will think of other
things, and that will filter through everything they do.
Work experience is important because, as my right hon. Friend
rightly said, we must be careful not to draw a sharp
distinction between technical and academic education, with
pupils feeling that they have to choose between one or the
other. The two must be interwoven, and degree apprenticeships
are a way of doing that, whether at age 18, 19, 20 or
whatever point. He talked about that as a ladder of
progression, but I sometimes see it as a path, because a lot
of the apprentices I have met have maybe done one or two
level 2 apprenticeships, trying to find out which way they
want to go and which is the best career option for them,
while at the same time improving their skills and aptitude,
and their ability to understand the knowledges and behaviours
needed within the general workplace, rather than in one
specific workplace.
I share, with a passion, my right hon. Friend’s view that we
need to do this for the economy of the country, because
employers are desperate for the skills. Employers now have
the means to employ apprentices—those paying the levy and,
soon, those not paying the levy. The means are there. What
matters now is that we make the system work, because for me,
as for him, it is a matter of social justice.
Question put and agreed to.
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