Adam Holloway (Gravesham) (Con) I beg to move, That this
House has considered street homelessness. It is a pleasure
to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Gray. I thought I had had the
most interesting February recess, but in fact you were sailing
through the south Atlantic to South Georgia in rather hazardous
circumstances, so I will defer to you. ...Request free trial
I beg to move,
That this House has considered street homelessness.
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Gray. I
thought I had had the most interesting February recess, but
in fact you were sailing through the south Atlantic to South
Georgia in rather hazardous circumstances, so I will defer to
you.
In the February recess, I wandered into Covent Garden, armed
with some cardboard that I had taken from outside a store,
and I bedded down for a night under the awning of St Paul’s
church. I was there with a very friendly Italian man and a
Romanian couple, who were busy checking their phones before
going to sleep. My idea was to spend as many days as I could
updating myself on the situation of the street homeless in
London. I first did that 27 years ago as a much thinner and
fitter ex-Army officer, who had only just left the Army and
who was trying to become a television reporter. In February,
27 years later, I was doing the same thing as a much fatter
Member of Parliament.
I wanted to understand what the Government strategies are to
end street homelessness. The Government and the Prime
Minister herself have said that they want to eliminate it
within 10 years. I wondered how we will do that and whether
it will really be possible. I also wanted to look at what
effect the Homelessness Reduction Act 2017 is likely to have.
I emphasise that, from my perspective, this debate is about
street homelessness, which is the obvious problem. There is,
however, also the much bigger problem of sofa surfing, which
I am not covering at all, although I acknowledge that it is
very much there.
Some things have changed, and some things are the same.
Things that are the same are the kindness and compassion of
members of the public and of the charities dealing with this
problem.
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I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on securing this
debate. One of the most profoundly moving things I have
heard—possibly he heard it too—was after the recent
passing of the Rangers and Chelsea footballer Ray
Wilkins. On the radio, a moving tribute was paid live on
air by a homeless man, who said that, when he was outside
a tube station in London, the person who came to him,
took him for a hot drink, gave him some money and changed
his life was Ray Wilkins. That man said in his tribute
that the world might remember Ray Wilkins the footballer,
but he will remember the man who saved his life.
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Order. Interventions must be brief.
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What a lovely story—I thank the hon. Gentleman.
The other thing that has changed is that the Mayor of
London, Westminster City Council, councils across the
country and indeed the Government—I do not speak for the
Government; I wish I did, but I am just a passed-over
Back Bencher—are taking this problem extremely seriously,
and I genuinely believe that. The No Second Night Out
programme is a good example.
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I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on securing this
debate. Earlier he mentioned voluntary organisations, and
I am sure he agrees that we should pay tribute to those
in Coventry, such as the Cyrenians. They are underfunded
to a certain extent, which we could have a debate about,
but the serious issue is what to do about the problem. We
need go less than 100 yards from here, across the road,
and every morning we can see someone sleeping rough just
under cover where the bookshop is. It is a serious
problem, so how do we tackle it? I understand that a
private Member’s Bill became law last April—
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Order. Interventions must be brief.
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I have not come across the Cyrenians, but I agree with
the hon. Gentleman that across the road is an excellent
sleep spot.
The No Second Night Out programme is a good example of an
early intervention service. It was launched in 2011 by my
right hon. Friend the Member for Uxbridge and South
Ruislip (Boris Johnson), now the Secretary of State for
Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, and it aims to ensure
that no one, once identified, spends a second night
sleeping rough in central London. More recently,
has gone further and set
up the No Nights Sleeping Rough Taskforce, trying to come
up with new solutions. The taskforce brings together
boroughs, voluntary organisations and central Government.
Apart from the proactiveness of the agencies that are
helping, I noticed some other differences. In February
2018 the majority of the people I came across living on
the streets were foreign nationals. One evening, at a
soup kitchen on the Strand, there were—I will not
exaggerate this—certainly 200 people. Various church
groups—from Maidenhead, I think—and some Ahmadiyya
Muslims, a Sikh group and an evangelical group were
helping out. I wandered about while shawls and brand-new
trainers were handed out, and I honestly did not hear
English being spoken by anyone. I heard east European
languages, Arabic and Italian.
The statistics seem to bear out my anecdotal evidence.
Information collected by the Combined Homelessness and
Information Network—the joint agency of people working
with rough sleepers that is run by the excellent charity
St Mungo’s—records that, in 2016-17, of the rough
sleepers in London for whom nationality information was
available, 30% were from central and eastern Europe. The
figure for non-UK nationals overall was 52.6%; that does
not include those who do not wish to give a nationality,
and other sources put the figure nearer 60%, which was
certainly my experience.
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I note that the hon. Gentleman mentioned that those
figures relate to London. Does he accept that, UK-wide,
only 4% of rough sleepers in England are non-European
Union nationals and 16% are EU non-UK nationals? Will he
join me in thanking those faith groups who go out to
serve all communities, regardless of background, and to
help people who are in the direst of straits if they are
rough sleeping?
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Well, of course—the hon. Lady need not even have bothered
asking the latter question, because it is a no-brainer,
isn’t it? As for the numbers for the rest of the country,
I do not know—I have not looked at them—but they are very
interesting. There are many different people with
different sets of figures, and I am sure that hers are
correct. With the example of the numbers of foreign
nationals living homeless in London, we can take our
pick, but the CHAIN figure is the most reliable—I do not
think that the figure is much more than 60%, but nor do I
think it is much less.
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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I will in a minute, but I have only got to page 3 of my
speech, and I have quite a few more pages, some of which
will go on to cover voluntary organisations, for example,
which the hon. Gentleman mentioned earlier.
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I have another slant on this.
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way. One of the
things that the figures mask is that some people are
asylum seekers with no status, going from home to home.
In fact, on Monday, I met a group of people who are
concerned about this. The figure of 4%, or whatever it
might be, belies the real figure. Does he agree?
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Yes. As I said at the beginning of my speech, this debate
is about street homelessness, and I totally accept that
there is a much bigger and much less visible problem of
people sofa surfing. Indeed, tomorrow morning I will be
seeing an asylum seeker without recourse to public funds
who is in exactly the position that the hon. Gentleman is
suggesting.
Going on to the reasons for rough sleeping in 1991 and
now, the demographic of the people I met on the streets
recently is clearly different, because of the foreign
nationals, but the reasons for people being there are as
sad and complicated as they always were. Once again, I
met that seemingly intractable group—the mentally ill,
the drug addicted and, in particular, people suffering
from mental health issues. Of the what one might describe
as “genuinely” street homeless, the overriding majority
had some sort of mental health issue, which is compounded
by living on the streets and by drug or alcohol
addiction.
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My hon. Friend is being very generous with his time. At
the last count in Cheltenham, there were nine rough
sleepers, often with complex needs relating to substance
misuse or poor mental health, as he indicated. Does he
agree that, in those circumstances, there can be no
substitute for qualified expert and intensive support,
such as that provided by P3 in Cheltenham, and that we
should continue to fund that generously?
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I do not know P3, but I am sure that it does great work.
I agree with my hon. Friend, and I will come on to that
point. How we deal with the mentally ill and the drug
addicted, how quickly they have access to support, and
how the money goes to the teams on the ground is a very
important part.
Some of the street homeless I spoke to were ex-soldiers.
One guy had separated from his German wife, whom he had
met during our time in the Rhine. She had taken the
children back there, and he had been living in a forest
in Germany for four months. He had come back to London
before trying to head back down to the west
country.
There are also ex-offenders, some of whom leave prison
with £46 in their pocket, although I did not meet any of
them. I am sure that there are also those who lost their
homes as a result of benefits sanctions, financial
problems or the breakdown of relationships, although
despite speaking to many dozens of homeless people, I did
not come across any of them. But, of course, there are
many of them, and there will be many more in the
sofa-surfer sector, which we discussed.
The most common theme was mental illness of some kind. If
hon. Members have walked along the road to Victoria
station, they will have seen all the people zombified out
of their heads on this horrible synthetic cannabis,
Spice. I spent a night sleeping there, round the back of
the “goods in” entrance to McDonalds. I was looking for a
suitable place to sleep, and I found a guy sitting on his
own. I wandered up to him and had a bit of chat. He was
an alcoholic and was quite lonely, and he was quite
nervous of all the Spice guys in the area. He said that I
could bed down next to him, which I did. He was 30, from
the north of England and quite anxious for company. As we
lay there in our sleeping bags—him drinking beer—he told
me that he had a flat outside London; in fact, he showed
me the keys. But he said that when he is in the flat, he
just sits there, getting wasted, and sees nobody. I found
it terribly sad that he was so lonely that he preferred
to be out on the street. That guy illustrates the
complexity of rough sleeping and why the problem
persists, even when money is being poured into the system
and huge numbers of different services exist.
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I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on securing the debate
and going on to the streets to find out the realities for
himself. I have to respond to the point about pouring
money into the system. That is absolutely not the case;
money is being poured into the system to react to a
crisis. The crisis is caused by the breakdown of our
public realm—the decimation of frontline public services
and the lack of mental health services and drugs and
alcohol services. On the one hand, the Government are
pouring in ring-fenced money to tackle the problem, but
the breakdown of the social fabric of our society—like in
the ’80s and ’90s—is the reason we have such a high level
of rough sleeping.
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As I said, I would like to be in the Government, but I am
not. We will hear from the Minister, who I think will
confirm that enormous amounts of money are being poured
in. The hon. Gentleman may have a case in terms of sofa
surfers, but for the hard-core rough sleepers, I cannot
agree with him. I did not come across the sort of people
that he characterised. I accept that, in terms of the
other group, he may well be correct, but I think that the
number of rough sleepers has much to do with the very
high levels of eastern European immigration over the last
few years. But he is absolutely right that we still have
the intractable problem that, whether or not people think
we are pouring in money, we are not getting to the people
at the very bottom—I will come to them in a minute.
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I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on his initiative to
put focus on this issue. Over the Easter recess, I did
the 6 am shift with police community support officer
Steve Hart, in Sheffield, where I met all the people
sleeping in doorways and stairwells. None of them were
foreign nationals—they were all British—and they all had
the sort of complex problems that he describes. I talked
to the agencies that worked with them; the reason why
those numbers have gone up each year over the last few
years is surely because, as my hon. Friend the Member for
Bury South (Mr Lewis) highlighted, starving money from
local authorities has minimised not only their ability to
deal with the issue, but a key source of funds for the
charities in the third sector, which cannot provide the
intensive support that people with complex problems need.
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Again, I do not want to be a cop-out, but I will throw
that to the Minister. If someone is fit and of sound
mind, there are all sorts of services, although not quite
24 hours a day, that make it possible to sleep out. I am
52 years old and I was in the Army; to be honest,
sleeping rough in central London is a lot more
comfortable than going on exercise when I was in the
Army. For those who are mentally ill, drug addicted, old
or personality disordered, it is a very different thing.
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Can I go on a little bit, unless the hon. Lady is
desperate on this point?
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We have to accept that some people are able to sleep
rough in our cities because there are the resources to do
so.
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Sorry, I cannot hold on. I have been out with homeless
people in Crewe and Nantwich, and I do not relate to what
the hon. Gentleman is saying at all. Does he agree that
an area that needs to be looked at more closely is the
high rate of benefit sanctions among homeless service
users and the impact of those sanctions?
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As I said at the beginning, this is a debate about street
homelessness. I accept that is probably true in that
other sector, but I did not come across it, and I am here
to talk about my experience, so I do not know.
The hon. Lady said that she does not recognise what I was
saying. I am not saying that even a large minority of the
homeless are there because there are resources for them.
I am trying to say, and I will develop this later, that
we will get nowhere in solving the problem and getting to
the people who are most needy if we just continue to talk
about the homeless and feel sorry for everybody. We have
to focus on the people in real need. Come out with me
some time, and I will show you.
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I go and help the homeless in my community; we have great
volunteers who also help them all the time. Thank you,
but we are interpreting the issue completely differently.
It worries me that you are not recognising some of the
real, ingrained problems. I do not think that anybody
would choose to sleep rough—I do not buy that.
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Order. Before the hon. Gentleman replies, I must make a
couple of boring points. First, interventions are getting
terribly long—Members must make short, one-sentence
interventions. Secondly, any Member who says “you” means
me. If Members refer to another Member, they must use the
third person—“him” or “her”.
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Thank you, Mr Gray. I can only go by my own experience. I
am very keen that we should get to the people who are in
real need and that we should start treating people as
individuals rather than lumping them all together and
suggesting that everyone has the same need. I am trying
to be honest; I can only go with my experience of three
months back in the ’90s.
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I really should not allow another intervention, as I am
on page four of 15 of my speech, but go on.
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Sorry. As the hon. Gentleman just said, we should not
lump all homeless people together; rather, we should
look at them individually. Does he agree that, based on
his own experience, he is taking a broad-brush approach
to all homeless people, and that that is incorrect?
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Well, I am not—actually, I have just turned the page,
and I am now on page five of 14. I hope I do not give
that impression, because I certainly do not think that.
People are on the street for a reason. The problem is
not homelessness—although of course that is a
problem—but whatever reason someone is on the street. I
do not think we disagree at all, but I will get to the
hon. Lady’s point.
What was my experience with No Second Night Out? That
initiative is based on the idea that once someone is
identified, they will not spend a second night out.
That happens in cities up and down the country. I
reported myself to the StreetLink helpline, and I was
woken up at about 2 o’clock in the morning by two
outreach workers and asked whether I would like to get
in an Addison Lee taxi to go to the No Second Night Out
south hub in Hither Green. No Second Night Out has
three hubs in London—one in the east, one in the north
and one in the south. I had a 3 am interview with a
charming, extremely competent and razor-sharp member of
staff, and I was then taken into an L-shaped room about
a third of the size of this Chamber where about 30
people were camped out on the floor with their own
bedding. I squeezed into the one remaining space
between a refrigerator and some French windows. I got
up the next morning, had a Pret A Manger sandwich and
some coffee, and later had an assessment interview. Not
wanting to take a valuable place, I made my excuses and
left.
To be honest, I was quite relieved when I left. The
thought of spending days or weeks sleeping on the floor
in a cramped room between the refrigerator and the
French windows did not appeal to me much. I can
completely see how, for someone able-bodied and of
sound mind, it would be much more appealing to sleep
under the awning of St Paul’s church in Covent Garden
or at the “goods in” entrance round the back of
McDonald’s in Victoria, because people have freedom in
those places. Also, if I were a drug addict, I do not
think I would want to abide by the rules that hostels
must have to protect the other people there. But if I
had been ill or elderly, I would of course have been
grateful for that place on the floor and the plan that
St Mungo’s, which operates the initiative, has for
people eventually to go on and find housing.
Even if I were Alastair Campbell himself, I would find
it hard to put in terms quite how extraordinary the
staff of St Mungo’s are. Having made my excuses and
left, I was walking down the street, and I had gone
round the corner from the hostel when its manager ran
down the road after me and said, “No, no, no—you don’t
have to do this yourself. Come back and we will sort
you out.” It was quite remarkable.
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Prior to becoming an MP, I worked for YMCA Birmingham
dealing with homeless young people. Will my hon. Friend
join me in celebrating the £2.2 million it was recently
granted by the Government to refurbish its 72-bed
hostel in Northfield, creating facilities for
organisations such as Mind to provide support to
formerly homeless people?
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Absolutely. Indeed, I experienced that. For another
programme I made some years ago, I pretended to be a
homeless mentally ill person in Birmingham. When I was
discharged from Queen Elizabeth psychiatric hospital, I
went to that very institution and the people there
arranged to look after me. That was 30 years ago.
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Yes, of course—I love the outrage.
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I find it unbelievable that the hon. Gentleman would
pretend to be a homeless mentally ill person. That just
shows how detached he is from the situation. I find
that insulting.
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All I can do is suggest that the hon. Lady watches that
“World in Action” series from 27 years ago and draws
her own conclusions about whether that was a good
thing. Let us have a chat about it when she has done
that.
Let us carry on with some realities. It is very
depressing, after 27 years, to look at streets with the
same cohorts of mentally ill and drug-addicted people
on them—the people who fall through the cracks in the
system. Although the police are more able to intervene
when a mentally ill person is on the streets and local
authorities have particular duties to those who are
vulnerable due to mental illness, the reality is that
someone who has had serious psychiatric problems is
extremely unlikely to maintain a tenancy or stay off
the streets for some time. Indeed, I had not
appreciated the churn of people—even when people are
engaged, the system does not seem able to keep them for
the time that it needs to.
Let us be honest about the correlation between
immigration and the rising number of street homeless.
It is no surprise to me that, in 2016-17, 1,950 rough
sleepers were migrants from Romania, Poland and
Lithuania. Obviously, homelessness is a much greater
risk when people are far from home and from familial
support structures. It became clear to me that some
migrants sleep on the streets by choice, preferring to
sleep rough than to pay for accommodation. It is a
no-brainer that years of high immigration and of
successive Governments not building enough houses will
have a knock-on effect for people at the bottom of
society. Of course that will make rents unaffordable.
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Does my hon. Friend agree that the Scottish National
party Scottish Government have presided over a
decade-long slump in Scottish house building? We went
from almost 26,000 new builds in 2007 to almost 17,000
in 2016. That is totally unacceptable, and it has
fuelled homelessness in Scotland.
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The shadow Minister, the hon. Member for Great Grimsby
(Melanie Onn), will attest to the fact that I am not
well enough versed on what is happening in the rest of
the country, so I cannot answer that question, but if
my hon. Friend says that, I imagine it must be true.
On people from eastern Europe, perhaps it is time to
ask ourselves whether it is exploitative to build an
economy on cheap labour provided by those who can
barely afford to accommodate themselves in our country.
We could of course argue that those people are not
strictly homeless, because they might have a home back
home, but that is their reality when they are here.
My hon. Friend the Member for Angus (Kirstene Hair)
alluded to the housing crisis. We must face up to the
inevitable impact of that crisis, and of the related
issues of lack of supply and affordability, on
homelessness. It is estimated that between 2010 and
2016, population growth, including net international
migration, was around 1.58 million. The number of rough
sleepers has increased by 169% since 2010. In 2016-17,
the housing stock in the UK increased by around 217,000
residential dwellings—an increase of 15% from the
previous year, but short of the estimated quarter of a
million-odd new homes required to keep up with
household formation.
It is not difficult to see that the sums just do not
add up, including under this Government. Although the
Homelessness Reduction Act 2017 strengthens the duties
of local authorities to provide advisory services to
people threatened with homelessness and encourages
pre-emptive action where house building has not kept up
with population increases, it is absurd to think that
that will not impact the people at the bottom of
society who are often the most unseen—not those on the
streets but those on sofas.
We must address the fact that homelessness impacts men
and women in different ways. Rough sleepers are
overwhelmingly men. During my recent stint on the
streets, I saw only a handful of women whom I
unscientifically judged to be street homeless—the big
giveaway is people carrying bags and suitcases. CHAIN
data for 2016-17 shows that only 15% of rough sleepers
in London were women. Part of the issue must be that
those who care for young children—typically women—are
rightly prioritised in the allocation of social
housing. However, somewhere along the line we seem to
have forgotten that men who live on the streets were
once part of a family unit.
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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I would love to give way again; the hon. Lady is so
informed.
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Again, I am astounded by the misogynistic comment that
it should be women who look after the children. I know
that is a different issue to the debate, but I cannot
let it go by.
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I will read what I said again: part of the issue must
be that the allocation of housing priorities goes to
those who care for young children, who are typically
women, and rightly so.
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Yes, absolutely. It is right for housing priority to go
to people who look after children, and typically they
are women. Again, I am just stating the reality. If it
is different, the hon. Lady should tell us.
Let us move on. We must recognise the particular
challenge of mental health issues that affect men, and
the way that men who battle for many years with the
perceived stigma of mental health problems can be
particularly susceptible to a sudden crisis that can
lead to homelessness. I also learned about the ways
homelessness affects women. Some women in London ride
the bus for 24 hours a day to stay off the streets, and
some go from place to place in return for a bed to
sleep in.
We must also address the issue of how people’s
generosity can sometimes be as much part of the problem
as the solution. The man I met near Victoria station
spent the night drinking beer bought with £30 that kind
members of the public had come up and given him that
evening. St Mungo’s staff told me of a client who had
abused drugs for many years and had a leg amputated as
a result, but who finally managed to get clean. This
man told them that if he had not been given money by
the public for so long he would have sought help much
sooner. Begging is part of the problem—an able-bodied
person can make quite a lot of money from begging on
the streets of London. Generosity by members of the
public is a factor in this; generosity can be enabling
and mask those in real need.
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Will the hon. Gentleman please clarify whether he seeks
to assert that people would rather be homeless and hope
for public generosity than in a place where they can
have their own income?
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No, and rather like the hon. Member for Crewe and
Nantwich (Laura Smith), the hon. Lady is not listening.
I am not saying that; I am saying that if someone is a
drug addict, the generosity of members of the public
can enable their addiction. I just gave the example of
a guy who was on the streets for years and had a leg
amputated, and who now believes that if the public had
not been so generous, he might have sought help much
sooner.
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I recall the hon. Gentleman said that people can make
money from being on the street—I am paraphrasing, but
will he please clarify that point?
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I will change that sentence. A person can make money in
order to buy drugs to feed their addiction—that point
was pretty clear in what I said.
An added complexity is that there seems to be a
perception among some of those involved in helping the
homeless that in order to access services someone needs
to sleep on the streets. Surely we should be helping
people earlier. The endless churn of people entering
the system—many of whom could and should have been
helped earlier—makes the job of organisations who are
trying to care for those vulnerable, and trapped,
people even more difficult.
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The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point about the
trapped nature of many homeless people. I recently
visited a homeless shelter in Glasgow and I discovered
a vicious cycle for people who might get a job, but
they cannot then secure it because they do not have a
bank account, and they cannot get a bank account
because they do not have a job or permanent address.
That puts people into a spiral of despair, which may
well lead to them having addiction problems—no wonder
they have addiction problems given the cycle of despair
they are in.
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I agree with the hon. Gentleman’s overall point. I
think the business of not having an address has been
dealt with by quite a lot of charities, but it is
clearly much harder to hold down a job for someone who
also has the complexity of sorting themselves out every
night and living on the streets. I definitely agree
with that.
How should we tackle the problem? From my experience of
sleeping rough in 2018, I would say that our priority
must be to ensure that we do not make the mistake of
lumping all rough sleepers together. That stops us
recognising people’s problems, and often means that we
not go far enough to tackle the underlying reasons for
rough sleeping. We also need urgently to address how
mental health problems experienced by rough sleepers
are identified and treated. Since my recent experience
on the streets, a link has been made between the
scaling back of mental health services and a rise in
homelessness. An outreach worker, and former rough
sleeper, told me only yesterday how he literally begged
a doctor to get him some sort of treatment when no
mental health services were available to help
him.
Outreach workers also speak about their frustration at
the lack of emergency mental health assessments, and
the desperate need for help at the right time and in
the right place. A supervisor at the No Second Night
Out hub in London said that sometimes when someone
arrives who is obviously suffering from a mental
illness, the charity has to hold that severely mentally
ill person in the hostel for up to three weeks before
they get a mental health assessment. During that time
the support workers, who are not psychiatric nurses,
have to try to contain the situation, which is hugely
challenging. If the person is accepted into an NHS
mental health unit—that does not always happen,
particularly if the person is a drug addict—more often
than not, as has been said, they are simply released on
to the streets a few weeks later.
Clearly there is an urgent need for mental health teams
to be embedded with outreach teams so that they can
look at the needs of an individual and refer them
without any delay for the treatment they require.
Homelessness charities say that there is no point
putting enormous amounts of money into general mental
health budgets, where it just disappears. The money has
to go to the tip of the spear and stay with those
people as they go through the system, so that we do not
get the churn I have spoken about.
Thankfully, the problem of homelessness seems to be
higher up the political agenda than ever before, and
the Government’s 2015 Budget increased central
Government funding for homelessness programmes to
£140-odd million over the following four years.
However, it is important that that money is used
correctly, at the tip of the spear, focusing on the
immediate needs of those on the streets and getting
them the help they require, rather than being wasted on
intervention that comes too late or does not tackle the
root cause of someone’s homelessness.
If we are serious about this issue—I think the
Government’s target is potentially over-ambitious—we
must see people as individuals not just as homeless
people. We must differentiate between different groups
and have the courage to look at whether the provision
of service is enabling some people to live on the
streets, but obscuring others from the help that they
need. We must think carefully about whether public
kindness is enabling some addiction, and whether by
lumping everyone together we are masking those in real
need. In this country where we spend gazillions of
pounds on a welfare state, we must try to rescue the
people at the very bottom of our society from roaming
the streets of our cities.
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Order. I will call the Front-Bench speakers in 20
minutes, and seven Members wish to speak. My rough
arithmetic makes that three minutes each. I do not
intend to impose a formal limit, but as a matter of
courtesy to each other please speak for three minutes
if at all possible.
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It is always a pleasure to speak under your
chairmanship, Mr Gray. I congratulate the hon. Member
for Gravesham (Adam Holloway) on securing the debate
and on his extraordinary account of what he
learned.
I care passionately about this issue, as do other
Opposition Members, because homelessness is the
ultimate symbol of the gross inequality that scars our
country and, in my case, the city region of Greater
Manchester. We are proud of the renaissance of
Manchester, but we cannot celebrate the cranes in the
sky, which represent growth and development, while so
many people are sleeping in shop doorways before our
eyes. This issue also matters to me because in the
1960s, a middle-aged woman was found sleeping in a
Manchester park with her young twins. The police
officer who found her said, “You can sleep here, madam,
but the children can’t,” and they were whisked into
care. That middle-aged woman was my grandmother, who
was a war widow battling mental health problems, and
the twins were my uncle and aunt. The point that I want
to make is it that can happen to anyone, and anyone’s
family.
Why do we face such a shocking situation—one that in my
view is a repeat of the “no such thing as society” ’80s
and ’90s? The hon. Member for Gravesham listed the
range of people who could be rough sleepers. It is
important to underline the need to look at things on an
individual-by-individual basis, as there are many
causes. Two points I want to make are that, first, many
foreign nationals are of course not eligible for public
funding, which creates a range of problems for the
system and, secondly, that I do not think that the hon.
Gentleman meant to say that someone is better off
sleeping on the streets than being in the military.
That would, I think, be a great indictment.
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I just said that sleeping in central London, if someone
is able-bodied, is no worse than being on exercises in
the military. It certainly would not be the case for
someone who was mentally ill or drug-addicted.
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for that
clarification.
I want to talk about the consequences of the
slash-and-burn approach that has decimated public
services as a consequence of the Government’s policies.
The rhetoric is about a shift to prevention and early
intervention, but the reality is that slashing and
burning local authorities’ budgets has reduced them to
providing their minimum legal responsibilities.
Prevention and early intervention go out of the window.
As for voluntary organisations, we no longer hear the
term “the big society”. The reason that that was
killed—that it was dropped and never mentioned—was that
at the same time as the Government were talking about
the growth in the importance of voluntary
organisations, they were slashing the funding that they
depended on. It is nonsense to talk about the big
society. The alleged commitment to localism has proved
to be complete nonsense. If you were running a
business, Mr Gray, and you had a 50% cut in your budget
over four years, you would go bankrupt or would be
likely to go out of business. That is what is happening
to local authorities under all political direction
throughout the country. We are paying a heavy price for
that.
I welcome the ring-fenced money that the Government
have made available to tackle the issues, especially in
Greater Manchester, but the irony is that the money,
which is not adequate, is necessary only because of the
impact of their social policy failures and cuts. It is
right, therefore, that in a debate of this kind we do
not say, “Take the politics out of it.” There is a
rough sleeping epidemic as a direct consequence of
political decisions. However, it is incumbent on an
Opposition to offer creative and positive solutions,
and Greater Manchester deserves tremendous credit for
the innovative approach it is taking under the
leadership of its Mayor, , working with the 10
local authorities, the voluntary sector, faith groups
and the private sector. The Mayor’s ambitious and
morally right commitment is to end rough sleeping by
2020—seven years ahead of the Government commitment.
They are committed only to ensuring that no one has to
sleep on the streets of this country by 2027. I argue
that that is a massive lack of ambition, in view of the
humanitarian crisis.
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Mayors across the country have a role to play. We have
heard about , and the hon.
Gentleman has talked about . , in the West
Midlands Combined Authority, chose homelessness as the
first thing to address in his time as Mayor.
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I congratulate on making it a
priority, but if the hon. Gentleman were to meet all
the Mayors they would say the problems are the
consequence of the breakdown of frontline services that
many of the people we are talking about have
traditionally depended on. I agree that Mayors have an
important role to play, and I am proud of the
groundbreaking approach that is taking, which
everyone acknowledges.
The first key element of a successful approach is
high-level political leadership. It is of absolute
importance that the people at the top should care about
rough sleeping and homelessness and make that a
priority. Another is that solutions should be
co-produced with people who have lived experience of
rough sleeping, and frontline organisations. The issue
should never be about top-down solutions. There should
be a clear strategy and plan, focused on reduction,
respite, recovery and reconnection. As the hon. Member
for Gravesham said, there should be a personalised
approach across organisational boundaries, with key
workers, support plans and personal budgets. Also, we
need innovative, imaginative public services. I am
really proud of the innovative work being done by the
NHS and the fire service in Greater Manchester.
Expanded housing provision will sometimes need to
involve specialist provision. The hon. Gentleman said
that the issue is mainly about men, but what about
specialist provision for women, who, often, are fleeing
domestic abuse, and for young people? There is a dearth
of that provision.
There is also a key role for business. The corporate
sector in most communities wants to help, and it is
important that the statutory authorities find a vehicle
to enable businesses to make a positive contribution,
through their expertise and skills, and their
willingness to make financial resources available. In
Greater Manchester the Mayor’s fund and Big Change have
been successful in putting together resources from a
variety of sectors on a ring-fenced basis.
I agree with the hon. Member for Gravesham about the
importance, in addition to support services and a
rebuilt infrastructure, of tackling Spice. That is
another epidemic, and I do not think that society is
yet clear about how to tackle it. I also agree with him
that it is of course appropriate, when we have
succeeded in minimising the number of people on the
streets, to take on the issue of begging on the streets
by people who are not actually homeless and who have
addresses. However, that is not the place to start.
Public support should start with minimising the number
of people who are sleeping rough.
Our society reached a post-war consensus that every
citizen in this country should have access to free
healthcare and universal education, and it is about
time that in the same way we offered every citizen the
right to a decent, affordable home.
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That was nearly nine minutes, squeezing out two
colleagues.
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend the Member for
Gravesham (Adam Holloway) for securing the
debate.
In Penzance we have a problem, and across Cornwall two
years ago we had the third highest level of rough
sleeping in the country. When I ask people why, they
say because it is the end of the line. People get on
the train and get off when it stops in Penzance. There
are rumours that local authorities buy people tickets
to Penzance, but they are yet to be proved. I also know
from personal experience about family breakdown,
including instances when a new member of the family
moves in and younger members feel they can no longer
stay. Eviction for debt and so on has recently been a
factor.
The problem is not new. In a previous job, many years
ago, I worked for a local charity, and we supported
homeless people. Long before food banks existed we set
up help for them, providing food given by local people
and tents and sleeping bags, as well as trying to get
them better accommodation and support. Many years ago,
under the Labour Government, there was a significant
problem in Penzance, while I was on the district
council. It was right that the council tried to address
it, but unfortunately it caused extreme problems. The
approach caused a lot of anxiety for those concerned
and for the local communities, and cost several million
pounds. The local authority just did not handle it
correctly. I was concerned at the time for those who
were homeless. It was right to help them, but things
were poorly and ineffectively handled. That is why I am
so encouraged by the efforts being made now; but we
must proceed with caution.
Before I was married I invited a homeless man called
Stan to come and live with me. It was quite funny as
other people who came to the house were curious as to
why there were two toothbrushes in the bathroom, and it
started all sorts of rumours. What I learned was that
more is needed than a roof over someone’s head, which I
think is the point that has been made. In Penzance we
have great services. Various meals are available
throughout the day and there is support. All sorts of
charities and other groups provide support, assistance
and therapies.
Members on both sides of the House recognise that
homelessness is a complex issue and can be solved only
by everyone working together—including the police,
local authority, voluntary sector, health and social
care providers and landlords. It is true that house
building must take place. We have not seen a
significant amount of house building, and I am not yet
aware of any scheme that is deliberately looking at how
we can provide suitable housing for people who, as I
have said, need more than just a roof over their head.
I will give three recent examples that have come into
my casework folder of people who, as we have heard from
my hon. Friend the Member for Gravesham, could have
been helped earlier. There was one family whose
business went bust; their house was tied to their
business and they lost their business and their home.
The council knew well in advance, but the day they left
their business they had nowhere to go. More recently,
there was the eviction of a tenant where there had been
lots of work previously to pursue and achieve the
eviction, but very little support, and she had nowhere
to go on the day. There was also a young man I met
recently who wanted to be close to his family and his
children, but the only option available to him was at
the other end of the county.
Those are examples of people who become homeless, rough
sleepers or sofa surfers, yet none of those cases were
a surprise. There was plenty of warning for all those
concerned to have helped them. Excuses and reasons
given to me included that the property had a section
106 agreement and it was not available for their
situation. Another public sector organisation said,
“This is not our responsibility.” Another said, “We
offered him temporary accommodation,” but, as I have
described, it was miles from home. An email I received
yesterday described a hostel in Cornwall—it is a hostel
for ex-service personnel, with eight beds in the room,
mixed sex and miles from home. The individual is
“terrified and cannot sleep”. There is no doubt in my
mind that more can and should be done.
I am encouraged by the fact that we recognise the issue
and that significant money and effort are being put
into it. Cornwall Council is receiving £648,000 this
year and £846,000 next year to address the issue. My
colleagues and I will be asking how it intends to
ensure the money goes where it is needed. I welcome the
opportunity to debate this big and complex issue, which
will not easily be resolved.
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I will be brief. It is clear that everyone has a
backstory; it is certainly clear, from spending time
with the homeless in York, that if decisions had been
taken elsewhere in the system we would not be in the
situation we are in. We have multi-agency failure due
to the austerity measures and the harsh decisions of
the council, which has resulted in homelessness
exploding on the streets of York. In 2010, just two
people were recorded as sleeping rough, but today the
picture is completely changed.
The chief executive of Changing Lives, which provides
one of the services in York, said that rough sleeping
is now,
“highly visible and we believe the numbers that will be
counted later on in the year will be alarming.”
Even though he runs a service himself, he was “visibly
shocked” at the levels of street homelessness in York
and, of course, homelessness across the board is in an
even more desperate situation.
The reasons for that are complex, but it is clear that
some decisions can be made to change the situation, not
least looking at the housing situation in York itself.
It is absolutely hopeless for the council to say, “Go
to the private rented sector,” because people cannot
afford to live there. The broad rental market area for
York does not match the true cost of housing in the
city, due to the broad area it covers. Therefore, the
private rented sector is not an option, yet people are
still sent there by our service. I would like the
Minister to look at that.
I would also like the Minister to look at the term
“intentionally homeless”. I do not believe anybody
makes themselves intentionally homeless. It is the
council that intentionally makes people homeless. While
we know that people have complex needs, there need to
be alternative strategies for missed rental payments or
antisocial behaviour, rather than people ending up
intentionally homeless.
I also ask the Minister to look at what is happening
with York’s local plan. The council is resubmitting it,
seriously under-marking a number of housing types,
particularly social housing. We need to disaggregate
the terms affordable housing and social housing, but we
need to put housing first for homeless people, as
Nicholas Pleace at the University of York has more than
adequately described. We need to look at what happens,
because there is currently a punitive system in place
around much of housing. We need to get it right,
because people are really struggling in my city—local
people, I stress.
The words of Sheila McKechnie will always stay with me.
As a teenager, she fiercely held politicians to account
to ensure they did not bypass the issues of
homelessness. We need to ensure that no politician sits
comfortably, even if strategies have been put in place,
because it is a matter of such urgency. Different
solutions are needed in different areas, and I ask the
Minister to work with all of us to make sure that we
find them.
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I have scribbled out a lot of my speech, so I will try
to crack on, with your best wishes, Mr Gray.
Homelessness is one of my key local campaigns, and
something I have worked on consistently since being
elected last year. I have visited most of the relevant
services in Mansfield and brought both the previous
Minister for homelessness, my hon. Friend the Member
for Nuneaton (Mr Jones), and the Home Secretary to meet
the public sector charitable organisations and
businesses to look at various aspects of things we
might do better locally.
It is fair to acknowledge that the Government has taken
some important steps to tackle homelessness. The
recently introduced Homelessness Reduction Act 2017 is
an important move in the right direction and can
potentially help to reduce the number of people
becoming homeless in the first place. Through my
investigations over this year, I know that that
prevention aspect of support was previously lacking.
The flexible homelessness support grant is also
welcome, providing £250,000 to Mansfield over three
years.
In Mansfield, we have some brilliant supported housing
associations, not least Framework Housing Association,
the Nottingham Community Housing Association and
others, that help to get people back on their feet
after times of crisis. They would love to be able to
offer ongoing support to the people who rely on them,
but they struggle to access the funding to do so. Those
providers are experienced in the issues surrounding
homelessness and are often best placed to offer local
support and tailored services.
In my constituency it is not the housing itself that is
the real challenge, but the complexity of need,
including mental health difficulties or addiction.
Providing support in managing those things, with
financial management, can make all the difference. Too
often the way is blocked by bureaucracy or
protectionism over different organisations’ priorities
and budgets. People cannot get support for a mental
health problem if they are on drugs, but they cannot
get support for their addiction if they have an obvious
mental health problem. The problems are clearly
interrelated, but the services are not.
Addressing mental health issues, providing tailored
local support and a joined-up approach between housing,
health and local social services is key to addressing
the issue of homelessness. Most local stakeholders
would agree that in Mansfield, our acute services are
pretty good. If someone finds themselves homeless, they
have a good chance of getting accommodation and support
fairly quickly. The numbers of street homeless in
Mansfield have fallen over recent years.
We have some amazing local groups and charities such as
The Hall, the Beacon Project and the Soup Kitchen that
provide excellent care and support, and most
importantly link in with key services. What we do not
have is a low-level ongoing support or prevention
service, to help people to manage their money and
maintain a tenancy as they move on, and to stop them
ending up back on the streets. For an entrenched
population of long-term homeless, that is key.
It is important to note that a significant number of
people, as has been mentioned, might not feature in the
rough sleeping statistics because they have hostel
accommodation or another form of temporary
accommodation. While as a first step hostels can
provide useful accommodation for homeless people and
help to provide shelter, they are not a long-term
solution. The use of drugs and alcohol, threats of
violence, theft, bullying and other issues can mean
they are not the safe space that people deserve.
It is frequently acknowledged that bed-blocking is a
significant problem in the NHS. There is also an
increasingly problematic form of hostel bed-blocking,
where former rough sleepers in hostels are ready to
move on but there is no move-on accommodation or
support to help them do so. A joined-up effort to look
at the ways in which we can continue to make progress
in reducing homelessness will need to involve all
levels of Government, the NHS and social care,
charities and voluntary groups. There is no
one-size-fits-all approach; we must take a range of
different approaches to deal with the problem.
I have argued over the last year that tackling
homelessness must remain a priority and that the
funding should reflect its importance. That funding
should not just be based on numbers. London obviously
gets a lot of cash because the numbers are incredibly
high, but I will argue for Mansfield, where the numbers
are comparatively small but we have a deeply entrenched
population of long-term homeless, who simply will not
be able to get back on their feet without some intense
long-term support.
Finally, can the Minister tell us when we are likely to
have an assessment of the impact of the Act and the
success of the various trials of different services,
such as Housing First in Manchester, that have been
brought forward by Government? Are more proposals are
likely to be brought forward to look at those
prevention services that I mentioned, with a view to
meeting the target of eradicating homelessness by 2027?
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It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Gray. Like others before me, I thank the hon. Member
for Gravesham (Adam Holloway) for securing this vital
debate.
Homelessness affects probably every Member, not only of
this Parliament but of the devolved Administrations and
their respective Parliaments, who work side by side
with local authority councillors and officers to help
to resolve this huge issue. In my constituency of
Falkirk, I work with a variety of other local
organisations that willingly give their utmost to
resolve this terrible situation, which too many of our
constituents find themselves in.
Many interesting points have already been made. I have
to praise the hon. Member for Gravesham for again
getting out of his comfort zone and going to live with
the homeless, some 27 years later. I read his report in
The Daily Telegraph and thought it was extremely
interesting on how different things are—or not—after
such a long time. He asked why the problem still
persists. It is a great question, and I would like some
answers. He made some interesting observations in his
report on that point, many of which have been
mentioned. The two I noted were the No Second Night Out
initiative, which I thought was excellent, and how all
people cannot just be lumped together. That is
extremely important.
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Does the hon. Gentleman accept that in rural areas such
as the one I represent, the difficulty is that, while
we have always had hidden homelessness—people have
slept in the woods and so on or have sofa-surfed—it is
now street homelessness. We have to look at the dilemma
of whether we provide a shelter or whether we try to
find other ways of coping with these people. I would
obviously prefer the latter. That shows the difference.
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Hear, hear. I absolutely agree with the hon. Gentleman.
I come back to a point made earlier by the hon. Member
for Angus (Kirstene Hair), who is not in her place. She
mentioned the Scottish National party Government. I
will quote Shelter Scotland to her, which warned, in
evidence submitted to the Scottish Parliament’s Local
Government and Communities Committee, that the
combination of universal credit and the UK Government’s
benefit cap reduction and the cap on housing benefit,
all
“directly threaten tenancies and risk pushing more
people into homelessness.”
None of us should tolerate that situation.
The hon. Member for Bury South (Mr Lewis) impressed me
with his points on the new mayor’s ambitions. That is
an extremely important development for these new
powerhouses; taking decisions locally is vital for all
areas. The hon. Member for York Central (Rachael
Maskell) described the effect of austerity measures on
increasing homelessness in her own area.
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There has been a 32% increase in homelessness in
Northern Ireland. Does the hon. Gentleman agree that,
contrary to popular belief, homelessness is not
restricted to people who sleep rough? It encompasses a
much wider range of individuals in a variety of
circumstances—particularly those with mental health
issues.
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I absolutely agree. I will come on later to describe
some things I have already managed to do this year. I
will first make other Members aware of what the
Scottish Government are doing in relation to our own
homelessness problems, and I will end my speech by
taking the opportunity to mention two initiatives I
recently had the honour of being asked to visit, to
witness the innovative work being undertaken there to
reduce homelessness in a very practical manner.
In Scotland, the SNP Government are taking action to
end rough sleeping for good. Scotland has some of the
strongest rights for homeless people in the world. A
major change was made in the Homelessness etc.
(Scotland) Act 2003: from 31 January December 2012, the
priority needs criteria were abolished. This was
described by Shelter as providing
“the best homelessness law in Europe”.
That is praise indeed. It was also described as very
ambitious, and required 10 years of preparation between
receiving Royal Assent in 2003 and coming into force at
the end of 2012.
Everyone found to be homeless in Scotland is entitled
to housing. Most people are provided with settled,
permanent accommodation. Last winter—I hope it is now
finished—the Scottish Government increased the capacity
and capability of homelessness services in three
Scottish cities, to meet the challenge of the harsh
winter. As part of that strategy, the SNP Scottish
Government set up the homelessness and rough sleeping
action group to bring forward recommendations on how to
eradicate rough sleeping, and also announced £150,000
of funding to extend some projects that had already
been assisted in the winter.
Another great example of the Scottish Government’s
commitment is the creation of the ending homelessness
together fund of £50 million over five years from this
year. Importantly, this focus on prevention has already
contributed toward a significant fall in homelessness
applications—a 38% reduction when compared with the
number of applications between April and September 2007
and April and September 2017.
New recommendations to ensure the eradication of rough
sleeping have been set out by the Scottish Government’s
homelessness and rough sleeping action group. Some of
the measures include a national system of rehousing,
involving integrated support from frontline outreach
services and, importantly, our own local authorities.
For example, that includes moving to a housing first
model for those with the most complex needs, whereby
people move straight into a permanent, settled home,
rather than temporary accommodation. The Scottish
Government invested £320,000 to support additional
capacity for night shelters and extra staff, to help
more people into accommodation over the winter. More
money—some £150,000—will be committed this summer to
continue some services going forward.
Jon Sparkes, chair of the homelessness and rough
sleeping action group and chief executive officer of
Crisis, said he was very pleased that the Scottish
Government have
“given in principle support to all of the
recommendations on ending rough sleeping from the
Homelessness & Rough Sleeping Action Group”.
That group has to be praised for the manner in which it
has dedicated itself to bringing the right
recommendations that will have the biggest impact on
the way people sleeping rough can access and receive
services. The new recommendations have also been
welcomed by Annette Finnan and John Mills of the
Association of Local Authority Chief Housing Officers,
who said:
“ALACHO members will welcome these new recommendations,
they reflect much of the good work that is already
going on in local councils across Scotland.”
That is praise indeed, and it is a good example of how
Government and partners can work together.
As has been mentioned by many MPs when discussing Tory
policy, welfare cuts are causing major hardship and
housing insecurity for far too many people.
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Between 2010 and 2015, funding to homeless services was
cut by 45%. Does the hon. Gentleman agree that that
could be one of the main reasons for street
homelessness?
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I absolutely and totally agree. That figure is in your
face and unavoidable. The impact those cuts are having
on our streets is unavoidable; how could anybody not
see it?
The Westminster Government must scrap the punitive cuts
that have pushed people into destitution. Other
charities and organisations are left firefighting these
decisions. I will mention some action that has been
taken by way of education into employment—life-changing
measures for the vulnerably housed and homeless.
As chair of the all-party parliamentary group on the
hair industry, I was honoured and privileged to attend
a wonderful example of a community working together, in
Exeter in Devon. Hair@theAcademy provides professional
barbering courses for the homeless and vulnerably
housed. A truly remarkable project, the academy has
successfully piloted a level 2 certificate in barbering
qualifications for six homeless adults. Those adults,
who have issues, are all moving into full-time or
part-time employment or self-employment. Before
starting, all participants must complete a two-week
citizenship course with Learn Devon, to ensure that
they are clean and ready to begin learning.
The barbering course has the built-in flexibility to
run over six months, recognising that there will be
difficulties and issues. I would call it a magna vitae.
It shows great, creative thinking from Learn Devon and
from Mary Pugsley from Hair@theAcademy, who put the
project together. What a great vision she has to help
others who are more needy. The course is delivered with
one-to-one tutoring, and as the learners become more
confident, they are encouraged to become more
independent in their learning journey. The courage of
the businesses that support the course needs to be
recognised. They have allowed these people to enter
into life and have changed their lives and their way of
living and their own communities are all the better for
it.
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It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Gray. I thank the hon. Member for Gravesham (Adam
Holloway) for securing this very important debate. The
turnout of colleagues goes some way to demonstrating
how important this issue is to so many representatives
throughout the country. I am only sorry that more
colleagues have not had more time in which to share
their views and discuss issues affecting their
constituents.
Street homelessness is just one part of the ever
increasing problem of homelessness, but it is one that
shames the country, so we must welcome the Government
strategies to tackle it. I am referring to piloting the
Housing First schemes in mayoral areas and bringing in
the Homelessness Reduction Act 2017. However, I must
enter a small caveat. Housing First has worked
incredibly well in Finland and areas of Canada, and St
Mungo’s, which the hon. Gentleman has spoken to and
worked with closely, has also been undertaking this
work for quite some time outside the pilots, so we
should take this opportunity to congratulate those
organisations that have already been undertaking this
good work for some time. I also need to raise my
concerns about local authorities’ ability fully to
implement the range of facilities in the Homelessness
Reduction Act without the funding properly to support
the requirements of that Act.
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I, too, feel that those are exactly the problems, so
does my hon. Friend agree that local authorities up and
down the country face these difficulties? In my own
city of Manchester in 2010, we had only seven people in
this situation, but in 2017 the number was 94.
Manchester City Council is giving £3 million to tackle
homelessness, but it is also fighting the tide of
crippling cuts to local authority budgets, an
historical housing crisis and punitive welfare reform—
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Order. Interventions must be brief.
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So the Government need to do more.
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My hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Gorton (Afzal
Khan) is absolutely right, and I could not support him
more. I congratulate , Mayor of Greater
Manchester, on the action that he has taken to ensure
that homelessness is at the top of his agenda and to
tackle this issue for his city, including by putting
some of his own funds into the task group. The rise in
homelessness in Manchester and other areas has not
simply happened by chance; it is a result of Government
choices.
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The figures show that almost 5,000 individuals are now
sleeping rough on our streets. That is a 15% increase
on 2017 and a 169% increase since 2010—a massive
increase. Does my hon. Friend agree that we cannot help
the homeless if we do not provide the homes that they
require?
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Absolutely, and I will come on to that issue shortly.
This problem is not insurmountable. When Labour was in
government, there was an unprecedented drop in
homelessness, but since 2010 it has worsened by every
measure. As the hon. Member for Bury South (Mr Lewis)
made clear, the doubling of rough sleepers since 2010
is a problem of the Government’s own making. Home
ownership is at a 30-year low. The average home costs
eight times the average salary. Today in England there
are 120,000 homeless children. The building of social
rent homes has plummeted, with fewer than 1,000 last
year—the lowest level on record.
The Minister, who has responsibility for homelessness,
recently said that she did not know why homelessness
had risen. I find it very hard to believe that anyone
in this place cannot immediately see some of the main
reasons for homelessness increasing. My hon. Friend the
Member for York Central (Rachael Maskell) rightly
recognised some of them: a lack of social and council
homes; disproportionately high rental increases making
homes unaffordable for those on lower incomes;
reductions in council funding meaning less for drug and
alcohol services; crippling welfare reforms that have
cut too fast and too far for those who were genuinely
just about managing; and difficulty in accessing mental
health services as the thresholds for those services
get ever higher.
I shall take the opportunity to highlight some of the
innovative work that NAViGO mental health services is
undertaking in my constituency. It has worked closely
with the local housing association to purchase
properties and then uses them as step-down
accommodation to support the service users who come to
it for help, to ensure that they have wraparound care.
That is the principle of Housing First in action in
measures being taken by innovative organisations around
the country.
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My hon. Friend gives very good examples of people who
are homeless being given assistance. I wonder whether
she will share my dismay at a letter that I received
from Eleanor Wilson, a medical student in Glasgow, last
night. She said that she witnessed, in a branch of
Starbucks in Glasgow, a homeless man who was just
queuing for a cup of coffee being told to get out of
the premises. That is one of a litany of issues with
Starbucks in the city of Glasgow. Starbucks cannot pay
its taxes—does not contribute to helping the public
realm—and is also ostracising homeless people on our
streets who need help. Does my hon. Friend agree that
that is totally unacceptable for a corporate citizen of
the UK?
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Absolutely. I think that we all have a responsibility.
The hon. Member for Gravesham talked about a society
that is enabling homelessness, but I think that there
is room for compassion when dealing with people who
have myriad social, economic and personal issues
driving them to be in this situation.
A sensible welfare state provides security to those in
society who need it. That has been eroded over the last
eight years, creating an underclass to the extent that
the Bureau of Investigative Journalism has stepped into
the Government’s shoes with its report published
yesterday in the New Statesman and identified 78
homeless people who have died this winter. That is 78
human lives lost, 78 people without a place that they
could call home, 78 lost people. Why do I call them
“lost people”? Because the Government do not collect
those figures centrally. Because in response to my
written questions and those from colleagues about
deaths associated with rough sleeping, the Minister has
repeatedly brushed that question off. There was no
acknowledgement that the central collection of data
would prove to be of discernible use—that it would
better inform the Government of the scale of the issue
at hand and provide some evidence and a means by which
Government initiatives could be measured.
The Minister’s Department seems similarly unaware of
which local authorities have commissioned adult
safeguarding reviews in the event of
homelessness-related deaths in their area, so we cannot
know which local authorities have good practices and
which need improvement. Will she agree today to start
collecting centrally data in relation to deaths from
homelessness? For everyone’s information, at least 59
men and 16 women have died. Their ages ranged from 19
to 68, and 14 of those who died were under the age of
35.
I congratulate them on their assiduousness, but it
should not take investigative journalists calling round
councils, charities, coroners’ offices and police
forces to establish a full picture of how many people
are dying on the streets of our country. And it is not
just those figures that matter. The Government should
be doing better in collating general information about
people who are rough sleeping, because the accuracy of
those figures is wholly insufficient. In the official
figures, the estimated figure for rough sleepers in my
constituency sits at around 22, but the list that I get
every single month from my local outreach services
shows more than double that number.
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My hon. Friend is making an excellent contribution to
the debate. Does she agree that there is a case for
reviewing the nonsensical, arbitrary headcount that
takes place once a year, in November, and leads to
completely misleading statistics? We actually need a
personal profile of each individual so that we know
what their needs are and how to address them. The
headcount once a year is completely misleading and
unhelpful.
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The hon. Gentleman makes an incredibly valid point, and
I hope that the Minister is listening. I see that the
hon. Member for Gravesham, who initiated the debate, is
nodding: he thinks that what has been referred to would
be of great use.
It is shameful that in 2018 we have experienced such a
rise in homelessness in all its guises, from families
left in supposedly temporary accommodation for up to
two years, to those without even a roof over their
heads. There must be action. Now is not soon enough,
let alone 2027, especially for those who have lost
their lives without the security of their own home.
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It is a pleasure to speak under your chairmanship, Mr
Gray. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for
Gravesham (Adam Holloway) on securing a debate on this
extremely important issue. Tackling homelessness in all
its forms is a priority not only me for me, but for
this Government. I understand his interest in this
subject. As he mentioned, he has seen what it is like
to sleep rough.
I am also thankful for the other experiences and
expertise shared here today, whether it comes from a
constituency or wider perspective. I am grateful to
hon. Members for their speeches and questions and will,
I hope, answer them as I work through my speech.
It should never be the case that someone finds
themselves without a roof over their head. That is why,
as hon. Members will be aware, the Government have
committed to halving rough sleeping by the end of this
Parliament and to eliminating it altogether by 2027.
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Will the hon. Lady give way?
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No, I will not. There is not enough time, because I
have to give time to my hon. Friend the Member for
Gravesham at the end.
I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Gravesham for his
kind comments about the ambitions of this Government.
Hon. Members will be aware that at the beginning of
this month we implemented the most ambitious
legislative reform in decades, the Homelessness
Reduction Act, which transforms the culture of
homelessness service delivery. For the first time,
local authorities, public services and the third sector
will work together to actively prevent homelessness for
any people at risk, irrespective of whether they are a
family or a single person, of what has put them at risk
or of whether they have a local connection to the area.
To deliver the new duties under the Act, we know how
important it is to provide local authorities with the
requisite support to build the homelessness workforce.
To help this, we have funded the London Training
Academy, which will provide current frontline staff and
apprentices. I am exceptionally proud of the work that
has gone into delivering these changes and the work the
Department has done. As ever, I am grateful to my hon.
Friend the Member for Harrow East (Bob Blackman) for
all his endeavours in bringing this Act to pass.
On rough sleeping, hon. Members will be aware that we
are publishing our strategy in July, setting out the
measures that we will take in order to achieve our
manifesto commitments. Overseeing the development and
delivery of the strategy will be the ministerial
taskforce, chaired by the First Secretary of State, my
right hon. Friend the Member for Aylesbury (Mr
Lidington), and comprises Ministers from key
Departments with responsibilities in relation to
homelessness and rough sleeping. It is supported by the
rough sleeping advisory panel, which I chair, with
Mayors and sitting on it. The
panel brings together key figures from local
government, central Government and homelessness
charities. We have met three times so far. Sub-groups
of the panel have also been established to look at a
range of themes, such as prevention, intervention,
recovery, data and long-term social change for the
strategy. Good progress has been made on the
development of the strategy and I look forward to
sharing our plans with hon. Members this summer.
We are, however, determined to take action to tackle
rough sleeping right now. I am sure hon. Members will
have seen the recent announcement on what we have
called the “rough sleeping initiative”, which lays the
foundations for the strategy. The measures contained in
the initiative are based on tried and tested measures,
which have previously had significant and immediate
impact on bringing down rough sleeping. The measures
include setting up a rough sleeping team, made up of
rough sleeping and homelessness experts, drawn from and
funded by Government Departments and agencies, with
specialist knowledge across a wide range of areas,
including housing, mental health and addiction. There
is a £30 million fund for 2018-19, with further funding
agreed for 2019-20. This funding will be targeted at
local authorities with high numbers of people sleeping
rough. The rough sleeping team will work with local
areas with higher pressure to support them and deliver
bespoke local interventions to immediately reduce the
number of people sleeping rough on the streets. A
further £100,000 will be made available to support the
frontline rough sleeping workers across the country, to
ensure they have the right skills and knowledge to work
with vulnerable rough sleepers.
In addition, the Department is working with the
National Housing Federation to look at providing
additional co-ordinated move-on accommodation for rough
sleepers across the nation, to ensure that they can
stand on their own two feet once they have received
help. As well as the support provided by other
Government Departments in developing the strategy, this
new package of measures will be supported by a range of
Departments across Whitehall. For example—this will
answer many colleagues’ questions—the Department of
Health and Social Care will make available experts in
mental health and drug treatment services to help
support the new outreach teams, including those in
hostels, and the Ministry of Justice will focus on
prison and probation work with local authorities and
outreach teams, in particular to identify short
sentence prisoners and offenders serving community
sentences who are at risk of sleeping rough. These
measures build on existing action we have already taken
to tackle rough sleeping. For example, as announced in
the 2017 Budget, we are piloting the Housing First
approach to support some of the most entrenched rough
sleepers in our society. I have personally seen the
good that Housing First can do, especially for those
struggling with addiction, as my hon. Friend the Member
for Gravesham mentioned. I saw that when I visited the
Housing First projects in Glasgow last month. The
Government are keen to see the results of how it will
work in England and robust evaluations will inform
wider roll-out, which my hon. Friend the Member for
Mansfield (Ben Bradley) asked about.
Charities and volunteers carry out vital work across
the country. Their work is key to ensuring that rough
sleepers get the help that they need and they help us
in meeting our manifesto commitment, particularly
charities such as St Mungo’s and Homeless Link.
I understand the point made by my hon. Friend the
Member for Gravesham that people sleeping rough might
be migrants. To be clear, we have always worked closely
with councils and homelessness outreach services to
ensure that the genuinely vulnerable receive the care
they need. The Government also provide funding for
local authorities for specific projects to tackle rough
sleeping by non-UK nationals. This fund helps projects
to secure regular employment and accommodation for
non-UK nationals, or facilitate voluntary return to
their country of origin.
The Government have allocated more than £1.2 billion to
tackle homelessness and rough sleeping over the
spending review period. This includes––this is by no
means exhaustive––£617 million in flexible housing
support grants, £316 million of local authority
prevention funding and £100 million to deliver low-cost
move-on accommodation places to enable people leaving
hostels and refugees to make a sustainable recovery
from the homelessness crisis. There is a further £215
million for a central Government programme, which funds
a range of innovative projects across the country and a
£20 million fund for schemes that will enable better
access in the private rented sector for those who are,
or are at risk of, becoming homeless, which the hon.
Member for York Central (Rachael Maskell) asked about.
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I thank the Minister for her contribution to the
debate. I ask her to look at a report published today
by the organisation Justlife, which shows that there
are ten times more people in temporary accommodation
than Government figures suggest and that there is a
direct correlation between unsupported temporary
accommodation, welfare reform and rough sleeping. These
people are living in appalling conditions in
bed-and-breakfast hotels and guest houses. Will she
study that report and will she be prepared to visit one
or two of the Justlife projects in Greater Manchester
with me, to see for herself the realities on the
frontline?
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I heard about that report yesterday. It is devastating
to see the quality of the property that certain people
are being asked to stay in. That is not acceptable in
this country. I had a meeting arranged in Manchester.
Unfortunately, it was cancelled by the people in
Manchester, but I am sure there will be another time
when I will come up.
In conclusion, I thank all hon. Members for their
contributions to this important debate, which has been
truly worthwhile. I reiterate that this Government are
truly committed to achieving our manifesto targets and
we will have further updates in the near future on what
we will do to ensure that we meet them. Rough sleeping
and homelessness is a scourge on our society. We will
do everything in our power to sort it out.
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I thank the Minister and the shadow Minister for their
speeches, and the hon. Member for Stroud (Dr Drew) for
his excellent intervention. It was fascinating to hear
about the grandmother of the hon. Member for Bury South
(Mr Lewis). Thank God we have moved on some way from
that. I would love to hear more about Stan at some point.
We need to think about the realities of homelessness and
see it for what it is, rather than how we would like to
characterise it. Homelessness is of course a problem, but
it is only a symptom. We will get nowhere if we do not
get to the underlying problems these people face. As we
have seen from this debate, if we cannot discuss this
honestly, without the degree of ignorance and prejudice
that we saw from a couple of hon. Members, we will get
nowhere. We have to treat homeless people as individuals.
We have to segment people to some extent, so that we do
not mask the problems of the people at the very bottom of
our society, who—at the moment and for generations—we
have not managed to reach.
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