Moved by Baroness Williams of Trafford That the Grand
Committee do consider the Passport (Fees) Regulations 2018. The
Minister of State, Home Office (Baroness Williams of Trafford)
(Con) My Lords, the purpose of this statutory instrument is
to set passport fees for the first time under the primary charging
powers provided by the Immigration Act 2016,...Request free trial
Moved by
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That the Grand Committee do consider the Passport (Fees)
Regulations 2018.
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The Minister of State, Home Office (Baroness Williams of
Trafford) (Con)
My Lords, the purpose of this statutory instrument is to
set passport fees for the first time under the primary
charging powers provided by the Immigration Act 2016, which
allow the Home Office to reflect not only the costs of
considering an application and issuing a passport but any
other function of the Secretary of State in connection with
UK passports. This includes the costs associated with
British citizens leaving and entering the UK.
Over the last year the average turnaround time for the vast
majority of the estimated 7 million passport applications
that HM Passport Office handled was in the region of seven
days. This excellent performance has resulted in high
levels of customer satisfaction. The Institute of Customer
Service has once again ranked HMPO as the top performing
public services organisation in its recent customer
satisfaction index survey. The service has improved its
customer satisfaction index scores over each of the last
five years and, for the first time, also appears in the
top-50 list of high-scoring organisations on the customer
satisfaction index survey, along with Amazon and John Lewis.
The full costs associated with processing applications and
issuing passports are funded by income from fees charged
for passport services, but the number of passengers
arriving at the UK border continues to rise, with about 130
million passengers currently arriving each year, of whom
about 70 million are UK passport holders. This leads to a
significant cost for the Home Office, which is currently
largely funded by the Exchequer.
Reflecting the costs to the Home Office associated with
passengers leaving and entering the UK in passport fees
means that we can reduce the burden on the Exchequer and
move towards operating on a “user pays” basis for the
overall service provided by the Government to UK passport
holders. It is obviously important that we recover any
additional costs in a balanced way that incentivises the
use of a more efficient online application process, which
we intend to become the standard passport application
channel. So, while we propose to increase most passport
fees, people who submit their application online will, for
the first time, be charged a lower fee than if they submit
their application via post. This reflects the fact that it
currently costs more to process a postal application. It
also supports the wider commitment to improve online
services to meet the needs and expectations of customers
who increasingly use digital channels to access government
services.
We intend to increase the fees for an online adult passport
by only £3, which is broadly in line with inflation. This
will mean that the current adult fee will be £75.50, which
is still below the £77.50 fee charged for an adult passport
between 2009 and 2012. An online child passport fee will
increase by the same amount and will be set at £49. Fees
for adult and child passports applied for via post will
each increase by £12.50 to £85 and £58.50 respectively, to
reflect the additional cost of processing postal
applications.
With more than 90% of adults in the UK having access to the
internet and third parties being permitted to apply on a
person’s behalf, the vast majority of people should face no
obstacle to applying for their passport online. However,
Her Majesty’s Passport Office is developing further help
for those who wish to apply online but need some additional
advice or support to do so. It is working to deliver an
assisted digital leaflet for relevant support groups to
enable them to help their clientele to apply online. This
will also ensure that their online application route is
built in such a way as to be extremely simple to use and to
be compatible with various aids, such as screen readers,
that people might use to make their interactions with the
passport service easier. An advice line is available for
those who wish to discuss their requirements with
representatives of the organisation.
The Committee will be aware that HMPO provides excellent
priority services for applicants who wish their
applications to be processed faster, or who prefer to apply
in person. It is right that applicants should pay more for
a priority service and we intend to move the fees for those
services towards full-cost recovery sooner than for online
or postal services, given their optional nature and the
additional benefits that a customer receives by using them.
Finally, within these regulations we are holding a new and
specific power that allows the Home Office to consider
waiving fees for replacement passports where they have been
lost or destroyed during an incident considered a national
emergency or crisis, or where the UK Government have
activated exceptional assistance measures overseas. This
will allow the Government to ensure that they can provide
the appropriate level of support to vulnerable people in
emergency situations and crises.
We are committed to ensuring that this Government continue
to move towards a position where the border, immigration
and citizenship system is funded by those who directly use
it. Moving to a position where passport application fees
include the costs of UK passengers leaving and entering the
UK is part of this. The additional income raised from the
proposed increase in fees will help to protect vital
front-line services and ensure that we continue to operate
a world-class border system. I commend the regulations to
the Committee.
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(Lab
Co-op)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Williams of
Trafford, for explaining to the Grand Committee the purpose
behind these regulations this afternoon.
First, I have absolutely no problem with full-cost
recovery. Generally speaking, it is not a bad thing to aim
for in a variety of services. I have been calling for it
for planning applications for a very long time, but the
Government have stubbornly refused it. Perhaps the Minister
would be kind enough to mention to her noble friend
and the
Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government that
this is a good thing to do, because I cannot get that
government department to consider doing even one council
pilot on full-cost recovery. They just will not have it—so
if the Home Office is doing it, perhaps they will look at a
pilot.
Having said that, the rise of £12.50 in one go is a little
steep. It may have been better to phase it in over time.
Inflationary rises in the cost of services are what we have
come to expect and I generally accept them. I do not have a
problem with there being two levels of fees, taking account
of the costs of processing applications. I get that point.
But while I know the Minister referred to the “vast
majority”, we are still talking about millions of people
who are not in that vast majority. They are not e-enabled
for a variety of reasons. They might not have access to a
computer or have the skills to use the facilities; equally,
they may have a computer and the skills but be in an area
where the broadband coverage is so poor that they cannot do
it anyway. The Minister might suggest in a moment that they
should go to a library, but she will know that the number
of libraries in Britain is much reduced from what it was
30, 20 or even 10 years ago. So that will not always be the
solution to the problem—again, there is an issue there.
The power to have the fee waiver is sensible and I am very
supportive of it. But one thing that the Government should
guard against is an issue that exists in a variety of local
government services. It is that if you are an ordinary,
decent and law-abiding citizen, why do you have to pay more
for services just because you are poor? I noticed that that
was not addressed in the impact assessment. There is lots
about what the Government are going to do, but I cannot
find any reference to why somebody poor has to pay more.
That issue needs to be looked at across government. It goes
across business, too, and other areas, and it irritates me.
I know this is nothing to do with the noble Baroness, but
if you go to an area that is not as wealthy as somewhere
else, you find that the less wealthy area has no cash
machines and that you have to pay £3 or £4 to get your £10
note out. If you are a genuine, ordinary, decent,
law-abiding person, why is it that, just because you have
less money than someone else or live in a poorer area, you
have to pay more? The Government should always be mindful
of that as a policy issue across a range of things. Having
said that, I have no particular issue with the regulations
and I am happy to agree to them.
3.15 pm
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(LD)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for her explanation of these
regulations and we are broadly supportive of the idea, in
particular the move to online and the proposal for a price
incentive to encourage people to apply in that way. I am
sensitive to the concern about people who do not have online
access, but I expect that the Government will take
appropriate action to make sure that they are supported.
I wish to make three points. First, if this was the private
sector, one would have peak and trough pricing. I should like
to know what the peaks and troughs for passport applications
are. In the summer there are always problems when people want
to renew their passports, and presumably there is a lull in
the winter when fewer people are travelling. One of the costs
to the public sector, that of retaining peak staffing, could
be assuaged if more people are encouraged to apply for their
passports when the demand is lower. Have the Government
considered that and are there great peaks in the workflow?
Secondly, while I understand that people must pay the cost of
issuing a passport, what proportion of the costs of
maintaining our borders and our consular activities overseas
are we aiming to meet through passport renewal? We all know
that there is a national interest in our borders and in
having consular services overseas because they perform other
functions besides looking after British passport holders, so
obviously a key proportion of the costs of those services
should come out of general taxation rather than simply being
met by people who apply for passports. What proportion of the
costs of these services will this measure contribute and what
is the Government’s ultimate aim here?
Finally, one thing that Brexit will do is to increase the
cost of our borders because it will require extra people to
man them. Are those renewing their passports going to have to
pay for the cost of Brexit or will it come out of general
taxation? My view is that it is the Government who are
creating this extra cost; they should therefore pay for it
out of taxation. They should not be trying to put the extra
costs of Brexit on to those who apply for passports. We
should not forget that the economy benefits hugely from
tourism so it is in our interest to improve the current
border controls, which many people regard as slow and
inefficient. What are the Government doing to make
improvements in, for example, the flow of people through our
border controls, which I am sure they have an interest in
since they are now seeking an additional source of revenue to
pay for them?
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I thank both noble Lords for their questions. I turn first to
the contribution of the noble Lord, Lord Stoneham. He asked
about peak and trough pricing, but then suggested that the
extra costs of maintaining the border should be met through
general taxation. We have considerably improved the
technology and intelligence around our border and we think
that we will be able to meet any additional burdens created
through Brexit. The fees application regulations before us
are not about Brexit; they are about putting in train
something that was decided in the Immigration Act 2016, and
thus I think before Brexit was even a twinkle in the general
public’s eye.
As to what proportion of money will go to the border, we
expect that about 40% of the current full cost to the Home
Office of UK passengers leaving and entering the UK will be
funded by passport fees after these increases. We did
consider peak and trough schemes, and looked at variable
pricing, but the cost of that would outweigh the benefits.
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Why?
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That was the analysis—the costs would outweigh the benefits
of doing it.
The noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, asked about the £12.50
increase. That of course is for the paper application. The
analysis shows that a premium service is more expensive,
paper being not the cheapest way to deliver passports or
indeed other items. That is reflected in that fee increase.
As for full-cost recovery, the noble Lord and I have had many
an exchange on such local government matters. He asked me to
take it to MHCLG. I will, but I suspect the reason for not
having full-cost recovery, as with all local government
things, is so that things do not become overpriced. MHCLG
always sets them under full- cost recovery, but I shall
certainly take that back.
The noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, also asked about digital
inclusion, particularly for poorer people and people without
access to libraries. The Government totally recognise this
point. The digital strategy uses 3,000 libraries across
England to provide a trusted network of accessible locations
with trained staff and volunteers, free wi-fi, computers and
other technology. In addition, people can use a friend’s or
colleague’s computer to do this. Just because you have not
got a computer in your home, that does not disfranchise you
from applying online.
I reiterate my support for the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy,
about being charged at cash machines. It is something that
really irritates me. I accept that sometimes the only cash
machine in a location is a paid-for one and that some of the
fees really are quite outrageous. I think that is about it.
Have I answered everything or does the noble Lord, Lord
Kennedy, want to come in?
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I know this is slightly straying off the regulations before
us today, but that irritates me. Like the noble Baroness, I
can obviously go somewhere else and not use the machine, but
sometimes people do not have that ability or that benefit. It
is the same of course with people who have to go to the
newsagents to get electricity for their meters. There is an
issue here. Why do we accept that if you are poor but law
abiding, hard-working and doing your best, you have to pay
more for things when other people have them more cheaply?
That is a general issue and a general point.
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I concur with the noble Lord.
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Before the Minister sits down, can I go back to the two
points I raised? I would like to see the peaks and troughs,
and presumably monthly figures are available. I would be
quite interested to see them. Secondly, I do not think that
the Government should easily be able to get away with the
assumption that there is no cost from Brexit when it comes to
border controls. That is almost fantastical and I do not
think anybody would believe it. It would be useful to know
how many of the 130 million people going through our borders
actually have EU passports as opposed to UK ones. We know the
quantity of people who are doing that. I go back to my
original question. If you assume that passport renewals will
pay for 40% of the border costs and if the costs go up
because of Brexit, does that mean we will have higher
proportionate passport renewal costs over time in order to
keep to that percentage?
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I cannot answer some of those questions but I know that HMPO
will have done an analysis of the figures. I was trying to
say, but I do not think I was doing it very articulately,
that we have a variety of technological, intelligence and
other methods of predicting people crossing the border and of
looking for the needle in the haystack, which is the person
who is crossing the border illegally or someone who might be
on our watch list. Our technology and intelligence have
improved significantly. We have e-gates and other methods
such as heartbeat monitors at the border. I do not disagree
with the noble Lord that volumes might go up, but we have
better methods of predicting and detecting illegal crossings
of the border. On the other point about numbers, I will write
to the noble Lord.
Motion agreed.
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