Transport Ministers were taking questions in the Commons today.
Subjects covered included... Regional Expenditure
Reading-Basingstoke Line: Electrification Emissions
Virgin Trains East Coast HS2: Construction Bus
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Transport Ministers were taking questions in the Commons today.
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Regional Expenditure
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1. What assessment he has made of the equity of levels
of transport spending by region. [904101]
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We do not allocate transport funding on a per head of
population basis; our decisions are based on a rigorous
and fair appraisal process that ensures that spending
goes where it is most needed and where it delivers the
greatest value for money. Recent analysis by the
Infrastructure and Projects Authority shows that
planned central Government transport investment over
the next four years is evenly balanced, with £1,039 per
head of population in the north, compared with £1,029
in the south.
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May I first take this opportunity to thank all those
involved in keeping our transport systems going in this
inclement weather? I am sure that fellow Yorkshire MPs
will have shared my surprise at the Secretary of
State’s recent article in The Yorkshire Post, in which
he claimed that spending in the north was somehow
greater than that in the south—if, through a rather
imaginative calculation, we ignore London. Does he
agree that simply spinning figures will not fix our
archaic northern railway systems or get northern
commuters to work on time?
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I echo the hon. Lady’s comments about those who are
working hard to keep the transport system open today;
we are very grateful to them all. In a week when the
Labour party has already had issues with its use of
statistics, she should look up the official statistics
from the independent Infrastructure and Projects
Authority, which show that planned central Government
spending is higher in the north than it is in the
south.
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I am sure that we could spend more Government money on
transport in the east midlands, particularly in
Northamptonshire, and especially in Kettering. The new
franchise for the midland main line is currently being
negotiated. Will the Secretary of State ensure that
Kettering’s rail services are better after the
franchise is awarded than they are now?
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My hon. Friend, who is a strong champion of Kettering,
will be delighted to know that the expansion in
capacity to Corby means that there will be a much
better commuter service in the mornings and evenings
through Corby down to Kettering, and to Wellingborough
and beyond. That is one of the benefits of the biggest
investment in the midland main line since the 1870s.
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Just to give the Secretary of State an example of
unequal treatment, is it true that for the new east
midlands rail franchise in 2020 the current
HST—high-speed trains—carriages will be scrapped,
because they are disability non-compliant, and the
power cars will then be matched with second-hand,
cast-off carriages from the east coast main line?
Instead of the brand new, hybrid hydrogen trains that
we were promised, we will be getting hybrid trains
composed of 30-year-old power cars and 30-year-old
discarded carriages from another line.
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I do not know what stories the Labour party has been
listening to. The midland main line will have brand
new, bi-mode trains delivered as soon as possible—
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In the early 2020s, which is years ahead of what would
otherwise have been the case under the original scheme.
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Within the context of equity of spending, I wonder
whether, after this snow event is over, my right hon.
Friend will ask some serious questions, or even have a
review, about why we still seen to be in no way
prepared for such events. For example, I discovered
yesterday that Heathrow is busy offloading flights
because they cannot cope, whereas—[Interruption.]
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Order. Is this about regional flights?
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Yes, regional flights. What I am saying is that, given
all of that, airports such as Gatwick and others are
able to cope. Does my right hon. Friend not think that
it is ridiculous that some airports are simply unable
to cope while others across the UK can?
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I know that a number of Members are here today because
their flights to regional airports have not been able
to take off. I hope and expect that we will be able to
sort that out as quickly as possible today, although it
is really important that the transport system is run
safely. Of course, one of the benefits of the expansion
of Heathrow is that the airport would become more
resilient to such difficult situations, and connections
to regional airports would be more reliable.
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I, too, pay tribute to those transport workers who are
keeping the system going at this difficult time. The
Secretary of State said in his first answer that the
allocation of funding is a rigorous and fair process,
so can he explain why the Government have ignored the
Office of Rail Regulation’s recommendations by
underfunding Scotland by £600 million? Since then his
Department has been able to cope with a £240 million
loss of revenue as a result of the situation with
Southern rail and found £245 million for High Speed 2.
The Government have been ignoring the Scottish
Government since last July, so will they now meet the
Scottish Government, or are these just weasel words
about equity of funding?
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Once again, the Scottish National party is arguing
against the use of the Barnett formula. SNP Members
love the Barnett formula when they think it is
advantageous to them, but when they do not like the
Barnett formula, they want to get rid of it. I simply
say to them that this Government have followed the
principles of the Barnett formula, and actually the
Treasury has given Scotland a bit more money above
that. I wish the SNP would stop complaining. The
reality is that Scotland is now better represented,
with a group of Conservative MPs who are much more
effective than the SNP ever was in getting this
Government to do that bit extra for Scotland.
Reading-Basingstoke Line: Electrification
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2. What assessment he has made of the timescale
required for the electrification of the Reading to
Basingstoke line. [904102]
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The Secretary of State’s acceptance of the Hendy review
in 2016 recognised the necessity of changes to the
scope of Great Western electrification. Following
completion of a feasibility assessment of the line
between Reading and Basingstoke, it has been identified
that electrification of that section is not required to
deliver improvements to passengers.
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Given my hon. Friend’s commendable plan to scrap all
diesel-only trains from our tracks by 2040, would he
consider extending Crossrail from Reading to
Basingstoke, as an alternative to Great Western, to
improve capacity into London from north Hampshire?
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The Department always welcomes suggestions from my hon.
Friend. There are no current plans to extend the
Crossrail route, and no assessment has yet been made of
the amount or availability of any such scheme.
Emissions
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3. What steps his Department is taking to reduce
transport emissions. [904103]
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We have very ambitious plans to reduce transport
emissions, including by ending the sale of new
conventional petrol and diesel cars and vans, and by
ending the use of diesel-only trains by 2040. Clean
growth strategy actions will reduce greenhouse gas
emissions, and the UK plan for reducing nitrogen
dioxide concentrations sets out action to tackle
hotspots of air pollution. We will shortly be launching
our new zero-emissions transport paper, and the House
can review that, too.
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The Minister will know that 24% of all emissions are
transport related. He will know there are hotspots
across the country, including in my constituency, and
thousands of people die prematurely as a result of poor
air quality, including 61 people in my Gedling
constituency. How does he intend to accelerate the
progress and policy development he has outlined to us
today?
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We absolutely recognise the issues that the hon.
Gentleman raises. He will know that we work very
closely on this issue, through the joint air quality
unit, with the Department for Environment, Food and
Rural Affairs. Our specific plans on transport
emissions will be released in our report later this
month.
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Can the Minister assure the House that, as far as the
Department for Transport is concerned, “emissions”
refers both to carbon and to air quality emissions,
such as nitrogen oxide and small particulate matter,
and that they are fully addressed together within the
Department?
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Yes, I can give my hon. Friend that assurance. Of
course, DEFRA is the lead agency within Government on
emissions. Only on Monday we put the renewable
transport fuel obligation on the statute book. The
obligation specifically balances the two sides of that
equation.
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Oxford is proud to call itself a cycling city, yet last
week it was identified in the High Court ruling on air
pollution as one of the 45 cities that the Government
need to do more to help. Will any more money be coming
to Oxford to help us make that modal shift?
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The hon. Lady will be aware that substantial amounts of
money have already been put aside to help local
authorities that have been affected by air quality
problems, and it is up to Oxford to see if it can apply
for that money when it becomes available.
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I drive an electric car, but many people do not.
Northern powerhouse rail will take many cars off the
road. The all-party parliamentary group on the northern
powerhouse is calling for the northern powerhouse rail
project to be brought forward to coincide with the
completion of High Speed 2 in 2032. Will the Minister
support that proposal?
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I am always grateful for invitations to support
proposals. I think I will leave that proposal to the
specific Ministers concerned, but my hon. Friend will
be aware it is a manifesto commitment.
Virgin Trains East Coast
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4. What assessment he has made of the potential merits
of the early termination of the Virgin Trains East
Coast franchise. [904105]
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8. What assessment he has made of the potential merits
of the early termination of the Virgin Trains East
Coast franchise. [904110]
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15. What assessment he has made of the potential effect
of the early termination of the Virgin Trains East
Coast franchise on (a) passengers and (b) rail
services. [904118]
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17. What assessment he has made of the potential merits
of the early termination of the Virgin Trains East
Coast franchise. [904120]
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I am not sure I see any merit in the early termination
of the Virgin Trains East Coast franchise. That is not
something I would wish to happen, but we have to deal
with the world as it is, rather than as how we would
like it to be.
My priority is to ensure the continued smooth running
of the east coast franchise for its passengers and
employees, and to make sure that the trains run and
deliver the service that people need. As I told the
House on 5 February 2018, a new arrangement to operate
the railway prior to the new east coast partnership in
2020 needs to be put in place. We are currently
conducting a full appraisal of the options, and I will
return to the House in due course.
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I am afraid to say that service standards have
deteriorated on the east coast line since
Virgin-Stagecoach took the franchise—I am a regular
customer on that line—despite the best efforts of the
excellent staff on board trains and at stations. Those
staff face having their sixth employer in a decade and
a half. Will the Secretary of State meet me and some of
those staff, so that they can express their concerns
about the way in which the franchise has been
conducted? Will he give the House an undertaking that
there is a genuine public sector operator ready to take
over should that be required—or has Directly Operated
Railways been outsourced already?
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On the last point, I can give an absolute guarantee
that that is the case; we have been making preparations
for different eventualities for some time and there is
a genuine alternative, if that is deemed to be best for
the passenger and best value for the taxpayer. My
ministerial colleagues and I are happy to talk to
staff, but I would correct the hon. Gentleman on one
point: the reality is that the independent assessments
have shown a higher level of passenger satisfaction on
that route since the change of franchise, not a lower
one.
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I, too, wish to say a huge thank you to the staff who
have been involved in keeping the trains running. As
has been said, the current Virgin Trains east coast
line franchise agreement will end three years early,
making it the third franchise failure in about a
decade. As someone who uses the line, I do not agree
with the Secretary of State’s assessment of it. But
will he recognise that there is a problem and see this
as the perfect opportunity to bring the contracts back
in house?
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As I have said in this House before, I need to do what
is best for passengers and for the taxpayer. The
reality is that since the transition, regardless of the
fact that Stagecoach clearly got its numbers wrong,
passenger satisfaction has risen, more people are being
employed by this railway and it is delivering more
money to the taxpayer. [Interruption.] That is the
reality. Labour Members can say it is not true, but it
is; it is a fact that they just have to deal with.
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I assure the Secretary of State that after three failed
franchises and the experiences of a directly operated
railway my constituents would much prefer a directly
operated railway. Will he commit to providing a
directly operated railway service, in the public
interest?
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As I have said, I am going to do what is best for the
passenger and for the taxpayer. I am sorry that the
Labour party does not seem to get this, but the reality
is that passenger satisfaction levels are higher today
than they were three years ago—that is what the
independent research shows. Labour Members may not like
it, but it is true.
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Next year, Bradford would have seen a marked increase
in the number of much-needed direct inter-city trains
serving the city, but the chaos with the east coast
line has put that in serious doubt. These extra trains
are vital to improving Bradford’s connection to the
rest of the country, so will the Minister commit to
ensuring that, whatever happens to the east coast
franchise, Bradford will see an increase in the number
of direct trains?
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This is an important point, so let us be clear: it is
my intention that, whatever arrangements are put in
place for the next few years, the service improvements
that have been promised will be delivered. We face an
issue on infrastructure and additional capacities on
the northern part of the route, which will have to be
resolved and may mean some amendments to the timetable
for new services, but that will not stop us delivering
those new services. In Bradford’s case, I am expecting
to be able to fulfil the commitments that were made.
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I agree with my right hon. Friend that there are no
merits in the early termination of the franchise, but
there are opportunities from the new partnership. My
constituency has 10 railway stations, none of which
have a direct rail service to London. Does he agree
that this is an opportunity to look at providing
services to those towns not currently served?
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As I know, my hon. Friend has been a regular advocate
for direct services, and I would like to see those
happen. I am looking to see whether we can maximise the
capacity on the east coast main line to make additional
services possible. Of course the arrival of HS2 will
allow many services that cannot be run now because of
capacity constraints to happen, because of the
additional capacity it will create on routes to the
north and Scotland.
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I am not entirely sure what the impact of the Virgin
Trains East Coast franchise is on Horsham, but
doubtless the hon. Gentleman is about to explain to us
with the lucidity for which he is renowned in all parts
of the House.
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I am absolutely going to. In respect of the proposed
alternatives to the current east coast franchise, has
the Secretary of State seen President Macron’s recent
remarks about the nationalised French railways, and has
he any remarks to make on them?
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Wisdom sometimes comes from our allies across the
channel. I did see those remarks, and they are a timely
reminder that a nationalised railway is not the panacea
that some believe it is.
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It was not the Horsham perspective, but the
international perspective. Why would I expect anything
less from someone so illustrious as a man who served as
my constituency chairman for three years, for which he
deserved a medal?
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The Secretary of State says that Stagecoach got its
sums wrong, but clearly his Department got its sums
wrong, too, when it awarded the franchise to
Stagecoach. Surely one merit of this situation should
be that failing franchise holders should not be allowed
to bid for future franchises. Does the Secretary of
State agree that this gives us the opportunity to put
the franchise into the public sector, allow further
public sector involvement across all franchises, and
review and improve the franchise tender process?
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We certainly keep the franchise process under continual
review to work to improve it but, as I said a moment
ago, a public railway is not the panacea that everyone
on the Opposition Benches claims it is. I intend to do
two things: to take the right decisions for the
taxpayer and the travelling public on that route, which
is really important, and to act within the law, which
is also important.
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On Monday, the chief executive of Stagecoach said that
he knew there was a problem with the east coast
franchise’s finances just weeks after taking over the
contract in March 2015, and that he had been talking to
the Department about it for two years. Given that the
Department was in dialogue with the operator about the
difficulties, why did the Secretary of State not put
together a contingency plan for the route? The
Secretary of State has had two years to sort out this
mess; is it not simply incredible that he still does
not know what to do?
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The shadow Secretary of State clearly cannot do his
sums, because I have not been Secretary of State for
two years. We have been planning—
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I have been Secretary of State for 18 months; the
shadow Secretary of State cannot do his sums. Since I
became aware that there was a problem on the east coast
route, we have been doing careful contingency planning,
so we have a long-term plan and short-term options for
the route. We cannot put those short-term options into
place until the appropriate moment arises at which they
are necessary. We are prepared for when that moment
arises and will deliver the alternatives.
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Given that the taxpayer has already lost out on more
than £2 billion of premium payments, can the Secretary
of State advise the House as to whether the financial
ramifications of the termination of the franchise are
now completely known and concluded? If not, what sums
of money are earmarked to settle any further
system-gaming demands from Messrs Branson and Souter
through litigation or arbitration?
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Again, the Labour party cannot do its sums. We have no
more written off £2 billion than Labour wrote off £1.4
billion when National Express collapsed. The reality is
that the east coast is and always has been in recent
times a profitable railway. Whatever happens, it will
continue to generate a substantial return for the
taxpayer. It is about time that Labour did its sums
properly, rather than misrepresenting the reality.
HS2: Construction
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5. What assessment he has made of the need to mitigate
the effects of congestion resulting from the
construction of HS2 phase 2a. [904106]
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I know that my hon. Friend is concerned about the
impact of traffic in his constituency; indeed, we
discussed it when he came to the Department just last
week. HS2 Ltd is already working with Highways England
and local highways authorities to mitigate the effects
of construction traffic, and will continue to do so as
the High Speed Rail (West Midlands - Crewe) Bill
progresses. The planning regime established under the
Bill includes powers for local planning authorities to
approve final construction routes for large goods
vehicles. We will work closely with local authorities
to make sure that impacts on local communities and
traffic are appropriate.
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Will the Minister update the House on the measures that
will be put in place to tackle and mitigate the impact
of traffic, and particularly its effect on junction 15
of the M6, resulting from the construction of phase 2a?
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Indeed, we recognise the need to keep traffic moving on
local roads during construction, primarily for the
benefit of residents and businesses. Under current
plans, junction 15 of the M6 is an important access
route for HS2 construction traffic. We recognise that
it also provides an important access route to the
Stoke-on-Trent area. HS2 Ltd is working closely with
Highways England to minimise the impact on the M6 and
consider any opportunities for co-ordinated delivery
with a smart motorway.
Bus Journeys
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6. What recent assessment he has made of trends in the
number of bus journeys in England. [904107]
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12. What recent assessment he has made of trends in the
number of bus journeys in England. [904115]
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The Bus Services Act 2017 presents local authorities
with new powers to bring about change and unlock the
potential for the bus service industry to increase
passenger numbers. Since 1982, bus usage has fallen,
but it is variable across the country. Passenger
journeys on local bus services in England have
decreased by 4% since 2009-10, to 4.44 billion in
2016-17.
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Does the Minister believe that there is a link between
her Government’s 33% cut to the bus budgets and bus
patronage falling to a decade low? What action has the
Secretary of State taken over the past 18 months to
rectify that?
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Bus patronage is actually increasing for people who go
to work—3 million people choose to travel to work on a
bus—and 60% of people who use public transport use the
bus. Increasing bus patronage is at the forefront of
the Government’s bus agenda. It is vital to combating
congestion and reducing emissions. Government provide
about £1 billion of funding for concessionary travel
every year, and around £250 million will be paid this
year to support bus services in England via the bus
service operators’ grant.
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Recent devolution deals have seen the power to
re-regulate buses, via London-style franchising,
devolved to areas such as my own that have a metro
mayor. Can the Minister tell me how the Government plan
to support those metro mayors who make the local
democratic choice to franchise their bus networks so
that local passengers can get the routes that they
need?
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Mayors have the freedom to do that. It is absolutely
right that these decisions are taken locally, whether
by the local authority or the mayor. We therefore
encourage all local authorities and mayors to consider
how they can use enhanced partnership and franchising
powers to make improvements for passengers and to
increase bus patronage.
Lorry Parking
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7. What steps his Department is taking to identify
emergency parking sites for lorries when travel across
the channel is disrupted. [904108]
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As my right hon. Friend knows, I have asked Highways
England to progress plans to promote a lorry holding
area through the normal planning process as a potential
permanent solution to Operation Stack. Highways England
intends to undertake an initial public consultation on
this in the spring, which will consider the scope,
scale and function of the lorry area. As he knows, I am
frustrated that we have not been able to do this
sooner, but the commitment to it is strong.
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The Secretary of State is, I know, aware of the extreme
urgency of finding a solution to this matter. Even if
we assume a full implementation period after Brexit, we
could be less than two years away from new customs
arrangements at Dover, and problems there could be
disastrous not just for roads across Kent, but for the
national road haulage industry. Can he assure us that,
by the time of Brexit, sufficient off-road parking
spaces will be available to avoid a recurrence of
Operation Stack?
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There are two points that I should make. First, on the
border, it is absolutely the intent of this Government
to maintain a free-flowing border; that is of paramount
importance. The other point, be absolutely clear, is
that we will have a solution in place for next March
which keeps the M20 flowing in both directions and
provides a solution if there is congestion at the
ports; and that we intend to move beyond that and
deliver a long-term solution, which will not only deal
with the issue of trouble at the ports, but provide
some respite to Kent residents, who I know are fed up
with having lorries simply parking on their local
roads.
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Eighty per cent. of the road freight to and from the UK
goes through Dover. There is surely no realistic chance
of all those lorries being checked from March next
year. Is not the reality that, if we leave the EU
without a deal, utter chaos on the road network within
miles of Dover is completely unavoidable?
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No, I do not think that at all. It is for this country
to decide how we manage our borders and what checks we
put in place. The Government are absolutely committed
to ensuring that there is a free-flowing border at
Dover, and we will deliver that.
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Is it the Department’s policy that a new fixed link
across the channel would help to ease disruption?
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We should have some big, bold visions for the future.
That is the way that we plan properly in transport
terms. Our big, bold visions for the country right now
are HS2, the potential expansion of Heathrow airport,
the lower Thames crossing, the trans-Pennine tunnel,
the A303 dualling and the Stonehenge tunnel. This
Government have and are delivering lots of big visions
for Britain.
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The chairman of Maritime UK has said that, if a deal is
not reached on Brexit, lorry drivers could be stuck on
the main roads to Dover for up to two days. Even if a
deal is reached, with a hard border at vital ferry
ports, the industry is warning that customs and port
health checks will cause massive disruptions. What
concrete assurances can the Secretary of State give us
that that will not be the case?
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As I have said before, I have regular dialogue with the
haulage industry and the ports sector. I have been very
clear to them, as I am being clear in this House today
and as the Prime Minister has made clear, that we do
not intend to impose a fixed border. We want a
free-flowing border and that is what we will deliver.
Rail Franchising
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9. Whether his Department can prevent a rail operating
company from bidding to retain its franchise as a
result of that company’s performance. [904111]
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All franchise operators are required to obtain a
pre-qualification passport. The Department may suspend
or withdraw a passport in the event that the passport
holder triggers certain requirements within the
passport application. This would place restrictions on
or remove the passport holder from bidding for
franchise competitions.
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I take it from that answer that it is possible for the
Secretary of State to deny an existing franchise holder
the right to rebid in a new tendering process. Govia,
which has had the south eastern franchise for a long
time, has consistently been a poor performer, so can he
remove Govia from the service? If it were to get the
franchise, what guarantees can he give to my
constituents that they will get the improved service
that they deserve?
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In the case of the south eastern franchise, we will
accept the bid that is going to deliver the best
possible outcome for the hon. Gentleman’s constituents,
with longer trains and better services. This is a
competitive process. I will not hesitate to remove a
passport from a firm when that is required. I also have
to operate within European procurement law—something
that the Labour party is still very keen on—and that
requires me to take a proportionate approach. I will
always seek to do that and I will always seek to
operate within the law.
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Last year, no fewer than 67 million rail journeys were
cancelled or severely curtailed. I raised this matter
with the Prime Minister yesterday. Most of the
compensation paid by Network Rail was trousered by the
train operating companies. When they bid to renew their
franchises, will the way in which they have treated
their passengers with compensation be a key
consideration, as it should be?
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right that we need to
ensure that passengers get the compensation payments to
which they are entitled. Of course, the compensation
structure is much more complex and there are far more
issues than those that have been highlighted in the
media in recent days. I am very clear that the move
that we are going through this year to provide digital
ticketing across the whole network will make it much
more straightforward to give passengers the
compensation that they deserve and need, and enable
them to do so simply, without having to fill out long,
complicated forms.
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The estimates report was very revealing, showing how
hundreds of millions of pounds have been spent on
compensation, underwriting failure and bail-outs. In
control period 4 alone, a staggering £339.4 million of
public money—our constituents’ money—was handed over to
private operators, while passengers were forced to pay
over the odds to travel. How much more public money
will the Secretary of State pass to these failed rail
operators?
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The Opposition keep talking about the huge amounts that
are paid, but they fail to understand that less than £3
in every £100 that is spent on the railways remains
with the companies. The rest is going into the biggest
infrastructure investment programme, better services
and newer trains—the kind of improvements that people
could only dream of in 13 years of Labour Government,
but which they are getting under a Conservative
Government.
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That is certainly no apology to our constituents. The
Secretary of State’s lack of due diligence has caused
chief exec David Brown, of embattled Southern rail
fame, to announce that he has done a—expletive
deleted—good job, and that he will bid again for the
next franchise contracts. Virgin and Stagecoach will do
the same. These companies are on a huge gravy train at
the expense of taxpayers, so why is the Secretary of
State being held to ransom and why he is even prepared
to consider rewarding their failure?
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The hon. Lady talks about a privatised gravy train. I
would encourage her to look at the conversation that
the French Prime Minister had about a state railway,
where he said:
“The dilapidated network, delays, abysmal debt…The
situation is alarming, not to say untenable. The
French, whether they take the train or not, pay more
and more for a public service that works less and less
well”.
I would say to her constituents that I am delighted
that over the next 12 to 18 months the people of York
are going to see every single train, pretty much, that
serves their station replaced as new, or brand new
trains—trains that they have not seen for decades.
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During the franchise process, business cases get a lot
of focus. The hon. Member for Middlesbrough (Andy
McDonald) mentioned the Virgin Trains east coast
contract and the franchise holder criticising some of
the figures he had been passed. As a member of the
Public Accounts Committee who was present at that
hearing, I can say that the franchise holder actually
said that, although the figures were not what he was
expecting, they were not an insurmountable barrier to
the franchise working. He quoted the Scottish
referendum and Brexit, and a declining trend in
passenger figures, as the real reason why the franchise
failed. When franchises across the companies are being
bid for, will my right hon. Friend encourage those
companies to have a broader range of dynamic scenario
planning so that they get accurate figures?
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My hon. Friend makes a very important point. We are now
migrating the franchise system to being much more
focused on quality. The quality of service is going to
drive revenues as much as anything else. People will
see a very different approach where we do not
necessarily take the highest bid, we look for high
quality in the bids, and we look to be prudent about
the risk-sharing mechanisms so that hopefully this does
not happen again.
Road Safety
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10. When he plans to meet representatives of the road
safety sector to discuss road safety policy.
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Since becoming road safety Minister, I have met the
hon. Gentleman several times, as well as a broad range
of road safety organisations and others with an
interest in road safety, to discuss many different
issues. Those institutions include RoadPeace, the Royal
Society for the Prevention of Accidents, the RAC, the
AA and many others.
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I congratulate the Minister on his keen interest in
this subject; I have been impressed by him so far.
However, is it not the case that there are still 1,720
knocks on the door by a policeman or a policewoman who
says that your daughter, your son, your mum, your dad,
your grandmother or your grandfather are dead? That is
the truth, so we cannot be complacent. Can we now look
to having a national investigatory body to investigate
every death on the road? Will the Minister also talk to
his overseas development colleagues, given that 1.3
million people worldwide die in road accidents every
year? Is it not time that we did something to help
them?
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As the hon. Gentleman will know, we are very closely
involved in supporting nations around the world to
raise road safety standards; he has been involved in
that himself. With regard to a national body, we have
looked at that. I am sure that he will take some
comfort from the fact that only today we are laying
regulations that allow driving instructors to undertake
motorway driving with learners. That is part of a much
wider pushback to improve driving quality and reduce
fatalities.
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The previous Transport Committee’s June 2016 inquiry
into all-lane running concluded that 8% non-compliance
with red X signals was unacceptable. In their response,
the Government agreed, promising to tackle it through a
combination of education and enforcement. In January
this year, the chief executive of Highways England
wrote to me with an update, stating that
“we have reduced levels of non- compliance with red-x
signals to 8%”.
How can it be acceptable for the Government to be
continuing to roll out all-lane running when it appears
to have made zero progress on reducing these dangerous
driving offences?
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As the hon. Lady will be aware, a study has been done
on all-lane running showing that, if anything, it may
be safer than the previous arrangements, and that is to
be welcomed. We will be making an announcement on red X
signals fairly imminently.
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Does the Minister not recognise the correlation between
his Government’s decision to scrap road safety targets,
introduced by Labour, and their failure to reduce the
number of those seriously injured or killed on our
roads?
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I am a little reluctant to get into the statistics game
with the hon. Gentleman. He will be aware, however,
that in the period since September 2017, road
fatalities fell by 4% and overall road injuries fell by
5%. The picture is mixed and generally heading in the
right direction.
Road Safety
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11. What steps his Department is taking to reduce road
injuries and deaths. [904114]
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In December 2015 the Department for Transport published
the road safety statement “Working Together to Build a
Safer Road System”, and we are making excellent
progress in delivering its objectives. I am pleased to
announce today that the Department has, in our third
attempt, commissioned an objective scientific study to
understand the relationship between tyre degradation,
the passage of time and the effect on tyre safety. Two
earlier attempts to commission that research were
unavailing. The guidance given has been very effective
in this area, but that marks a further move towards
better road safety.
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My constituents and Gill Smith, who
tragically lost their daughter Rhiannon nearly a year
ago in a car collision, are now campaigning for better
preventive action. I agree with my hon. Friend the
Member for Huddersfield (Mr Sheerman) and ask that the
Minister looks seriously at calls by campaign groups
such as Brake to establish a UK road collision
investigation branch, so that we can have more crash
data and evidence to prevent deaths and injuries on our
roads.
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As the hon. Lady says, that is a tragic incident for
the family concerned, and one’s heart goes out to them.
As I said to the hon. Member for Huddersfield, we
continue to look closely at the possibility of setting
up such a national body.
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In the last 15 years, there have been 340 casualties on
the notorious A417 near the Air Balloon pub. There have
been 148 accidents in the last five years alone. Will
my hon. Friend join me in warmly welcoming the landmark
of reaching the consultation stage on the shortlisted
new roads scheme? Does he agree that, by backing that
project, this Government are committed to saving lives
on Gloucestershire’s roads?
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Of course I welcome that. As my hon. Friend will be
aware, it has been the product of a great deal of hard
work by local campaigners and the Department over a
considerable period.
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Would the Minister consider reducing the drink-drive
limit? The reduction in Northern Ireland and Scotland
has led to fewer deaths and injuries on the road and
less work for the police. It is surely the most obvious
thing to do.
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We continue to keep the situation under review. As the
hon. Gentleman will be aware, there have been moves in
that direction in Scotland. As that policy works its
way through, we will continue to look closely at the
issue.
Road Improvements
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13. What steps his Department is taking to improve the
condition of local roads. [904116]
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The Department published its latest statistics on road
conditions in England in January 2018, which show that
local classified roads are improving, with fewer local
roads to be considered for maintenance. There is still
much to do, which is why the Government have committed
record levels of investment, including more than £6
billion to highways maintenance up to 2020-21, as well
as having an action fund to combat potholes totalling
£296 million in this Parliament, which colleagues
across the House will warmly welcome.
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I thank my hon. Friend for that answer. He will be
aware that Shropshire Council has submitted a very
effective business case, supported by our local
enterprise partnership, for the funding of the
north-west relief road in Shrewsbury, which is the
final bit of the circular around our town. What steps
is he taking to ensure that the scheme is looked upon
favourably?
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I am absolutely aware of that. My hon. Friend has been
a tireless campaigner for that road over the years. I
reassure him that we recognise the concern that he
indicates. The Department has received the funding bid
for the Shrewsbury north-west relief road, and it is
being actively and currently considered.
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The Government are intending to close the driving test
centre in Pontypridd and move it to Llantrisant, which
will make it far more inconvenient for people in the
Rhondda—one of the poorest constituencies in the
land—and probably more difficult for people
cost-effectively to learn how to drive safely. It will
also put the driving test centre in a place that does
not have suitable roads for people to do the test
properly. Will the Minister look again at closing the
Pontypridd driving test centre?
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That is what is called the art of shoehorning in the
tangential.
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He did do it nicely. We congratulate the hon. Gentleman
on his ingenuity.
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One wonders if style is everything in these matters or
whether content should have a place at some point. The
answer to that question is that of course we will
continue to look at it, but I doubt the answer will
change.
Community Transport
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14. What steps his Department is taking to support
community transport operators. [904117]
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In the 2016-17 financial year, the Department spent
almost £3.5 million on supporting the community
transport sector through the bus services operators’
grant, and since January 2013 it has devolved
approximately £2.9 million of that grant to support
local councils’ community transport services. As my
hon. Friend will be aware, the Department is currently
consulting on changes to the law and guidance on the
use of section 19 and section 22 permits. The
consultation closes on 4 May.
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The Minister will know that the changes on which he is
consulting pose a real threat to the future of some
operators. What more can he do to protect the existing
use of permits rather than require what are generally
small local charities to move to the full commercial
status of the operator licence?
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As colleagues will know, I have spent a lot of time
working with the bodies responsible for the sector and
visiting local community transport organisations. I
take my hat off to them for the astonishing work that
they do, which is, in a way, a form of social care as
much as a form of transport, if not more so. Our
consultation document, which I am sure my hon. Friend
will have read, lays out three potential exemptions:
derogations from commercial operators in favour of
community transport operators, showing that there is in
fact no competition in specific cases; a potential
distance exemption of 15 miles from a particular hub;
and the separation of commercial and non-commercial
activities. We expect them to receive a lot of
comments. I am not aware of a direct threat to any
operators in particular, but we very much seek their
feedback.
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Notwithstanding what the Minister said about the hat—he
talked about taking his hat off—I would not have
thought he would want to do so in the present weather,
as a protective function.
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Many community transport operators use diesel vehicles,
so what representations have the UK Government made to
the German Government to hold Volkswagen to account for
its emissions scandal?
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It is the Rhondda valley by proxy. We continue to press
the German Government hard on the issue and regard the
behaviour of Volkswagen as unacceptable. We are greatly
improving the emissions regime, toughening up the
testing regime and taking active steps to penalise the
use of defeat devices.
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