Extracts from Westminster Hall debate on UK Amphibious Capability - Nov 21
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Ruth Smeeth (Stoke-on-Trent North) (Lab):...The 1981 review, “The
United Kingdom Defence Programme: The Way Forward” advocated a
reduction in the quantity of Royal Navy ships and a refocusing of
the remaining resources towards Europe. Just a few years later,
the Falklands war highlighted the continuing need for
both our naval strength and a global outlook... Mr Mark Francois
(Rayleigh and Wickford) (Con):...As we all know, in 1982, when
the Falklands crisis blew up...Request free trial
Ruth Smeeth (Stoke-on-Trent North)
(Lab):...The 1981 review, “The United Kingdom Defence
Programme: The Way Forward” advocated a reduction in the quantity
of Royal Navy ships and a refocusing of the remaining resources
towards Europe. Just a few years later, the Falklands war highlighted the
continuing need for both our naval strength and a global
outlook...
Mr Mark Francois (Rayleigh and Wickford) (Con):...As we all know, in 1982, when the Falklands crisis blew up from almost nowhere, it was only because we still had our carriers and their Sea Harrier aircraft and the amphibious assault ships, Fearless and Intrepid, that we were able to mount an opposed amphibious assault and successfully recapture the Falkland Islands. No doubt very many intelligent people wrote very articulate staff papers that contributed to the 1981 review and a great deal of intellectual energy was put into the argument that we could do without these ships—but they were all wrong. Maintaining that amphibious capability should be an important part of our national armoury, and NATO’s as well, so what is to be done? Phil Wilson (Sedgefield) (Lab):...The point of amphibious capability is to land where the enemy is not. The idea that the Government think that we, as an island nation, should be cutting that capability seems absurd. Combined with the scrapping of HMS Ocean, it would severely impact our amphibious capability to enter a war zone by sea. Not just that; it would affect not only our warfighting but our humanitarian work. The first task of HMS Ocean back in the 1990s was a humanitarian task in the Caribbean when there was a hurricane in Honduras, and as we know it was deployed just a couple of months ago in the Caribbean once again. The amphibious capability has been used at least 10 times since the second world war. It was used in Korea, in Suez and then in the Falklands. As has been mentioned, in 1981 our amphibious capability was again under threat. Just think: if we did not have that capability in 1982 when the Argentinians invaded the Falklands on 2 April, where would we be now? Leo Docherty (Aldershot) (Con):...That lesson from 1982 still stands today. The simple lesson from the Falklands conflict was that when projecting power from a carrier force, we cannot rely on helicopters alone. That was cogently encapsulated in a book, “No Picnic”, which was written by the commander of 3 Commando Brigade, Major General Julian Thompson. In fact, he also highlighted it more recently in a letter to The Daily Telegraph on 28 October. He wrote the letter with Captain Michael Clapp, who was the commander of the amphibious task group in the Falklands, and I will quote from it because it is entirely pertinent. They reject the notion that today, we would be able to project power from a carrier by a helicopter force alone. They considered it back then, but “rejected it on the grounds that we did not have air superiority, or enough helicopters to land enough troops and their supporting artillery in sufficient strength, in the time required, to fight off counter-attacks by the Argentine army. The only way to achieve a quick enough build-up was by landing craft. The landings were opposed on the ground by very few enemy troops. The main opposition came from the Argentine air force. Had we attempted major helicopter moves in daylight, the Argentine fighters would have had a turkey shoot among our helicopters.” That lesson still stands today...
Jim Shannon (Strangford) (DUP): I
thank the hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent North (Ruth Smeeth) for
bringing this issue to the House. I declare an interest as a
former Ulster Defence Regiment soldier and Territorial Army
soldier for 14 and a half years. Our armed forces are
unquestionably the best in the world; we are second to none. As
much as I respect our allies the Americans and Australians, among
other nations, it is clear that our brave boys and girls top the
table in ability and training. Our abilities and capability act
as a deterrent to those who might consider undermining our
authority. The Falklands war lasted 74 days and 255 British armed
forces personnel died. We were attacked on 2 April and responded
by 5 April. We had the capacity to re-route ships and personnel
to an area that had no plan in place for an unexpected invasion
of a Crown colony... Those ships also have an important role to play as command facilities. The 1982 HMS Fearless was fitted with modern satellite communication equipment, and during the Falklands conflict, it hosted the staff of amphibious force commander Commodore Michael Clapp and the commanding officer of 3 Commando Brigade, Brigadier Julian Thompson, and his staff. The ships have uses beyond conflict. They are well suited, as has been mentioned, to providing humanitarian aid and relief work. The capacity of our landing platform docks can save lives too... Robert Courts (Witney) (Con):...Even if we had the V-22 Ospreys that the Americans have, we would still need the heavy-lift capability that can only be given by taking heavy equipment across by water. Apart from anything else, in a contested environment, we would keep our carriers as far offshore as we could, as in the Falklands war. If we were to lose that capability, there would be unintended consequences. Our relationship with the US marine corps is extremely close, as hon. Members who have served actively will confirm, and it serves side by side with the Royal Marines. At a time when the United States, Spain, Italy and Australia are all investing in amphibious capability, losing it would make it very difficult for us to remain a global player and a NATO partner and to stand alongside our allies.
We have been here before with the 1981 review and what happened
in the Falklands. We do not need to learn those lessons all over
again; history provides them for us. The unique capability
provided by those ships and the marines will not be replaced by a
combination of carriers and Chinooks. Our status as a NATO
partner, an ally and a country that projects its influence around
the world is crucial. If Britain withdraws from its ability to
project force on an amphibious basis around the world, we will
wake up in a different country. That decision would have
epoch-making consequences and we ought to step away from it.
Let us not forget that our amphibious shipping and the Royal
Marine command brigade were crucial in liberating the Falkland
Islands—a point made well by the right hon. Member for Rayleigh
and Wickford (Mr Francois) and in the powerful speech of the hon.
Member for Aldershot (Leo Docherty). After the Falklands war, it was agreed that the UK
needed to maintain a minimum amphibious force, but since the 2010
SDSR we have seen gradual reductions in capacity... |
