Asked by The Lord Bishop of Durham To ask Her Majesty’s
Government what is their response to the report by the All-Party
Parliamentary Group on Refugees, Refugees Welcome? The Experience
of New Refugees in the UK, published on 25 April. The Lord Bishop
of Durham My Lords, I am pleased to be able to introduce this
short debate on the All-Party...Request free trial
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The Lord
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what is their response to
the report by the All-Party Parliamentary Group on
Refugees, Refugees Welcome? The Experience of New Refugees
in the UK, published on 25 April.
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The Lord
My Lords, I am pleased to be able to introduce this short
debate on the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Refugees’
report, Refugees Welcome?. It was a privilege to serve on
this group. It was also often disturbing to hear the
stories of those who, having experienced years of
difficulty as asylum seekers, found the joy of being
finally given refugee status taken away by the poor ways in
which they were then treated. As a nation, we had agreed
that they deserved to be fully welcomed—but our systems
often left them bereft and destitute. As the report makes
clear, we have work to do as a nation to ensure that those
who we have agreed are refugees and whom we believe have
much to offer our land are made truly welcome.
A couple of months ago, I hosted an evening about community
sponsorship of refugees in my diocese. During the course of
promoting the event, a member of my staff was contacted by
a Syrian who had previously been resettled locally. He made
contact to let us know that not only would he be attending
but that he would be happy to assist if we needed any help
with the organisation of the event. The welcome that he had
received made him passionate about offering a welcome to
others. His story demonstrates that we are able to get it
right. The problem is that we have great inconsistency and
lack a well-integrated strategy and system.
Defining successful integration is incredibly complex, but
I think my Syrian story gives a picture of it: someone is
well-integrated when they want and are able to give of
themselves for others in the community that they have
entered. Members of Survivors Speak Out gave a similar
message when they described integration to the APPG
inquiry. One said it was,
“the ability to feel at ease in the new country whilst also
not forgetting your own culture”.
Another said that integration was,
“when you feel really proud to be British”,
while a third described it as,
“being able to participate in social life here and be part
of the community”.
These aspirations are not exclusive to refugees. They are
things that we all want for ourselves and those we love.
Similarly, integration is not something that you can do to
an individual; it is a process that a whole community must
go through. The findings of the report emphasise that
successful refugee integration takes a whole-society
approach; it is a two-way process. It is as much about
capacity building in communities as about building
resilience in individuals. This requires action from both
civil society and government. That is why we should welcome
both the innovation of the community sponsorship scheme and
the inclusion in the Cabinet of the Minister for
Immigration—but more needs to be done.
During the course of this inquiry, it became clear that the
difficulties facing refugees extend beyond a simple lack of
co-ordination. Instead, refugees find themselves up against
processes that are in some sense biased against their
success. One prominent example of this is the perilously
short time that refugees have to move on from their support
once their refugee status is confirmed. The stories that we
heard suggest that the destitution of the vulnerable, whom
we have committed to welcome, is currently a structural
feature of the system. We can and should fix these
structural and process issues. I believe that the noble
Baroness, Lady Lister, who also served on the APPG, and
perhaps others, will outline more specifics of how we could
do so. But I want to take a step back and ask what we need
to put in place to prevent instances emerging in the first
place. The report’s answer has two parts: a national
integration strategy and a Minister for refugees to
implement it.
Throughout the inquiry, discussion kept returning to the
importance of an integration strategy. While it was mainly
policy specialists who made this point to us, you do not
have to spend years immersed in refugee resettlement and
Home Office policy to think that having a clear idea of
what we are trying to achieve and how we are going to
achieve it might be worthwhile. A strategy becomes
particularly urgent when we consider all the competing
priorities in government. Unless we have a strategy by
intention, we are left with a strategy by implication,
dictated by other priorities. Our work with refugees needs
to be led by and organised around a vision for thriving
individuals and communities. At present, the report makes
clear that refugee support is often organised by the quirks
of the DWP and short-term cost cutting. Refugees deserve
better. As it happens, so do our national finances.
So a specific national refugee integration strategy makes
sense. All the evidence indicates that it would have a
positive impact on outcomes for refugees and, through them,
for wider society. Still Human Still Here and Refugee
Action both highlighted the positive role of previous
UK-wide strategies in securing better outcomes. It is
therefore also in our own best self-interest. Simply
enfolding it into a broader social integration strategy
will not be adequate. There are specifics about refugee
integration that need their own clear strategy. According
to the Scottish Refugee Council, the Scottish experience
demonstrates that even the process of designing a strategy
is beneficial, simply in getting all stakeholders around
the table and buying into a common vision.
Over the course of the inquiry we identified six areas that
any national refugee strategy should address: first,
transition from asylum support to other forms of financial
support and accommodation; secondly, ESOL provision;
thirdly, employment and training; fourthly, health and
well-being; fifthly, access to education; and sixthly,
community empowerment. I trust that subsequent
contributions may draw out some specifics in these areas.
The inquiry also heard about the importance of monitoring
outcomes. While monitoring has previously taken place,
Refugee Action noted that there are no current data on
levels of employment rates of refugees and the number
accessing ESOL classes. Before we even consider how to
improve refugee integration, we need to know where we are
as well as where we are trying to get to.
The Government already recognise the importance of
outlining targets for refugees. The Government have
produced a statement of requirements for local authorities
for those resettled under VPRS. This captures a wider theme
that emerged during the course of the report: the harm
caused by the current two-tier system. I have seen
first-hand the hurt and confusion caused to those who have
not come through VPRS when they see the greater resources
for ESOL and other provision available to those who have.
Unequal treatment is causing resentment and actively
impeding integration for those arriving under both schemes.
There is of course something helpful in having a variety of
parallel schemes: it becomes apparent what works. Best
practice for VPRS is already being shared horizontally
between local authorities. My hope is that the report will
help the process of sharing best practice across all levels
of government and all parts of the UK.
The work of discovering, implementing and sharing best
practice needs a champion in government. The decision to
end the role of Minister for Syrian Refugees was
regrettable, particularly just as the legislative agenda
threatened to sideline refugees. We are fortunate to have
many Members across both Houses and all parties who are
passionate about welcoming refugees, including the
Minister, the noble Baroness, Lady Williams. Yet, as my
brief outline hopefully demonstrates, improving integration
is an incredibly complicated task. It will involve at least
the Home Office, the Department for Work and Pensions, the
Department for Education, the Department of Health and
DCLG. Meaningful improvement across this number of
departments will not take place naturally. If we are
serious about leading the way in responding to the global
refugee crisis, we need a Minister to head it up.
It was noteworthy how many agencies we heard from that
operate in the voluntary sector. Refugees themselves
offering evidence also spoke highly of the support that
they received from such organisations, nationally and
locally. It was heartening to see evidence of the work of
churches during the course of the inquiry. Churches have
been and plan to be at the heart of welcoming refugees to
our country. We do so to join in the work of the one whom
the psalmist describes as,
“a father to the fatherless, a defender of widows”,
who,
“sets the lonely in families”.
We are a welcomed people who desire to welcome others. We
join faith and other communities in being committed to
playing our part in improving the welcome offered to
refugees. We are not simply asking the Government to do
something for us, though obviously the report recommends
specific action from them. Instead, the report is an
invitation to work with us so that the whole of British
society can benefit from the full contribution of those who
have chosen, and have been chosen by, Britain.
In conclusion, will Her Majesty’s Government appoint a
Minister for refugees? Will they implement the report’s
call for a national refugee integration strategy? Will they
seek to ensure that, when people are given refugee status,
their experience will consistently be one of support and
welcome rather than the varied and often distressing
experience that is the reality for too many at present?
7.58 pm
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(Con)
My Lords, I am grateful to the right reverend Prelate for
securing this debate. I hope Her Majesty’s Government find
the recommendations that he has outlined uncontroversial.
While I still have questions for the Government, this is
actually a good end-of-term report for the Home Office as
far as I am concerned.
On 21 March 2016 in your Lordships’ House, my noble friend
and I asked the
Home Office to address the injustice in the then Syrian
vulnerable people resettlement scheme. Yazidis and other
religious minorities were excluded, not because they were
not vulnerable according to the Government’s criteria set
or because they were not refugees, but simply because they
held the wrong passports. Daesh persecuted regardless of
the Sykes-Picot border, but Iraqi refugees were not
eligible for the scheme. Many MPs and Peers in the
All-Party Group for International Freedom of Religion or
Belief joined in on the issue and some met with the Home
Secretary, the right honourable , back in March this year.
We were surprised and delighted that, on 3 July, Her
Majesty’s Government announced that the Syrian vulnerable
people resettlement scheme had had its criteria expanded to
accommodate the resettlement of non-Syrian refugees who had
fled the conflict. Information that we have received from
NGOs working in the region highlights that members of
persecuted groups, including the Yazidis, are now eligible
for resettlement under this scheme.
There is, however, also anecdotal evidence from NGOs on the
ground that locally hired UNHCR staff are not accurately
recording the vulnerability of refugees who have different
faiths to themselves, preventing some of the most
vulnerable from accessing the resettlement schemes. Can Her
Majesty’s Government please ensure that, as religious
minorities were targeted by Daesh, those refugees coming to
the UK should at the very least reflect the religious
make-up of Syria and Iraq prior to the conflict? The United
States is encountering the same problem, so something is
amiss with the assessment of the UNHCR. A change of policy
without better implementation by the UNHCR—of which DfID
unfortunately gave such a poor report in its multilateral
assessment—will not achieve the result that Her Majesty’s
Government want to achieve through changing the scheme in
this way. There are also suggestions that these other
nationalities—such as the Yazidis, who are almost
exclusively Iraqi—will qualify for our amended scheme only
if they fled into Syria and then had to flee again from
Syria. Can my noble friend please confirm, perhaps by
writing to me later, that Yazidis who fled IS but went
directly into Turkey will now qualify under our amended
scheme?
I am also pleased that the report by the all-party group
and the Asylum Advocacy Group from July 2016, Fleeing
Persecution, which looked at how the Home Office assesses
claims for asylum here in the UK based on religious
persecution, has been taken seriously by the Home Office.
We are working with them to retrain caseworkers on handling
religious persecution asylum cases here in the UK.
Religious persecution is one of the seven grounds for those
applying for asylum here on which a claim can be made, but
it is perhaps the most complex. A baptism certificate, if
you are a Shia Muslim convert to Christianity in Iran, has
a totally different evidential weight than one from a local
Anglican church which may mean little more than that you
had a layer of the wedding cake to use up. The APPG looks
forward to working with the Home Office asylum team on this
task over the coming weeks and is grateful to the NGOs,
faith leaders and academics who are helping the Home Office
in this task.
The welcome by the Church of England through its
involvement in the community sponsorship scheme—as outlined
by the right reverend Prelate—is encouraging, but I would
be grateful to know if Her Majesty’s Government are seeking
to learn from Canada, a fellow Commonwealth country, which
seems to have a very effective resettlement process and
integration strategy. I trust that the recommendations from
this report from the APPG on Refugees will be accepted by
the Home Office. Like many people, my closest friends
include many from west Africa, the Caribbean and Singapore
who came here for work or education, became naturalised and
stayed. But the richness of my community now also includes
those who have fled persecution in the Horn of Africa, were
given refugee status and then became naturalised. Their
gratitude for the education and healthcare provided here to
them and their children is truly humbling. If Her Majesty’s
Government are minded to create a Minister for refugees,
can they give serious consideration to locating that
Minister in DCLG, not the Home Office? As President Macron
stated, there is a profound difference between economic
migration and fleeing persecution. Let us keep this
separate in government departments and hopefully separate
in the minds of the great, generous British public.
8.04 pm
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(Lab)
My Lords, I, too, am grateful to the right reverend Prelate
for securing this debate on the report of the inquiry of
which I was also a member and also to Jonathan Featonby of
the Refugee Council, who provided outstanding support, as
well as those who gave evidence, particularly refugees
themselves. I will focus my remarks mainly on one of the
most serious impediments to refugee integration, which
arises at the point that they receive refugee status. This
should be a time of relief and joy. Instead, because of the
well-documented problems created by the 28-day move-on
period, it is all too often a time of despair—despair born
of anxiety, homelessness and destitution. Remember: some of
those affected are survivors of torture who are likely to
be particularly fragile in terms of both physical and
mental health.
A recurrent theme in the evidence that we received was that
the period is too short to enable refugees to move
seamlessly to mainstream social security and housing
support. When I have raised this issue before in your
Lordships’ House, the response has tended to be that the
problem lies mainly in the failure of refugees themselves
to claim quickly. Of course, this can be a factor, but the
evidence presented to us makes clear that 28 days is simply
not enough time for many to make the transition, even if
they claim immediately. All too often there are delays in
receiving the documentation that newly recognised refugees
need to access financial support and housing. One of those
key documents is the national insurance number. Sami, a
refugee from Iraq who gave oral evidence, told us that his
was sent to his Home Office accommodation the day after he
was evicted from it.
A concern raised by a number of organisations was the
anticipated impact of the rollout of universal credit.
Typically, UC is paid only after six weeks from the date of
claim. This is because it is paid monthly in arrears and
eligibility starts only after a seven-day waiting period
and is premised on the assumption that new claimants are
moving from paid work and have wages and/or savings to tide
them over. So, even where the transition to mainstream
social security goes without a hitch, the 28-day move-on
period is incompatible with the six-week wait for UC. The
report recommends that DWP ensures that the first payment
is made within the moving-on period and that refugees are
added to the list of groups exempt from the seven waiting
days. Can the Minister tell us, or ask DWP to write to
explain, what steps they are taking to prevent this problem
arising?
The Minister knows of my concerns because she kindly met
with me back in December. The decision to instigate an
evaluation pilot through which assistance is provided with
the transition to mainstream social security was welcome.
However, it is now over 16 months since the noble Lord,
, rejected an amendment to
the Immigration Bill of 2016 to extend the move-on period
with the promise that, if the evaluation showed it did not
provide sufficient time, the Government would return to
Parliament with a proposal to amend the regulations.
According to a recent written reply, the pilot is currently
being reviewed and key stakeholders will receive an update
shortly. I trust that concerned parliamentarians count as
key stakeholders, but I press the Minister for assurance
that the evaluation will be properly published, as stated
in her Written Answer to me on 29 July 2016, and that the
Government,
“will bring forward a change to the current … move-on
period”,
if it is shown to be necessary. Our inquiry recommended
that it be extended to at least 50 days and then kept under
review. We would welcome the Government’s response to this
and the related practical recommendations in our report.
In the past, the Home Office has itself emphasised the
importance of the move-on period for the longer-term
integration of refugees. Other barriers to integration
documented in our report include: inadequate support to
learn English, other than for resettled Syrians;
restrictive family reunion rules, identified recently by
the UN refugee representative as one of the biggest
obstacles to integration; and, we warned, the recently
announced automatic use of safe return reviews. The
Government are committed to publishing a new integration
strategy following the Casey review; can the Minister give
assurance that there will be an explicit strategy for
refugee integration, as called for in our report and by the
right reverend Prelate? Will serious consideration be
given—as he also asked—to establishing a Minister for
refugees to drive that strategy? Otherwise, I fear that,
despite all the invaluable support provided by local
communities, the current highly damaging two-tier system
identified in the report will continue, and it will not be
possible to remove the very big question mark from the
title of our report, Refugees Welcome?
8.09 pm
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(LD)
My Lords, I, too, thank the right reverend Prelate for
securing this debate. I share the sentiments expressed by
the noble Baroness, Lady Berridge: some progress has been
made, and it would be churlish not to acknowledge that.
However, further progress still needs to be made.
The report states that,
“the evidence we received shows that experiences of the
asylum system can have a detrimental impact on future
integration for those who are granted refugee status”.
This a holistic approach: you cannot separate the asylum
process from the granting of refugee status. I shall
concentrate my remarks on those who seek asylum on the
basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. Many of the
problems experienced by this group were highlighted in the
excellent report by Stonewall and the UK Lesbian and Gay
Immigration Group entitled No Safe Refuge. When I attend UK
LGIG events and ask people who have been granted asylum
what that means to them, they do not talk about work or
integration but about personal freedom—being able to be who
they are and love who they wish, and getting back a sense
of decent humanity and self-worth. However, that joy tends
to turn to frustration quite fast once they become aware of
the problems created by the way they have been treated by
the asylum system, because for those who have been granted
refugee status it tends to tie at least one hand behind
their backs, and in some cases two.
I highlight three key issues. The first is detention of
LGBTI people seeking refugee status. They say that it feels
as if they are being put back into the closet, because they
are held in detention with people from their homeland, some
of whom hold very homophobic views. They also say that it
affects their mental health and puts them back in that
regard. Those who are granted refugee status want to
integrate but do not feel they can totally be themselves,
because they do not know what is going to happen round the
corner, given the way they were treated when in detention.
Because the Government have done that, they wonder whether
there is something intrinsic in British society which means
that the Government put them in a vulnerable position when
they are seeking safety because of their sexuality. There
are real issues in that regard.
Secondly, the length of time taken in decision-making is
also highlighted in the report. The longer a decision
takes, the more likely it is that the person will lose the
skills and knowledge they may have, which will keep them
independent once they are granted refugee status. Only this
week, I met a wonderful Syrian couple, two young men who
have waited 18 months for a decision. The Government accept
that they are gay and that they are a couple: they have
been given accommodation together. However, when you talk
to them, they say, “I just want to work and be able to live
independently”. They cite little things and say, “I cannot
have a bank account. That takes away my independence. I
cannot even open an Uber account because I do not have a
bank account and a bank card, so I cannot get around and be
independent”. The longer the decision takes, the less
likely the applicant is to integrate easily.
The third issue concerns the Syrian vulnerable persons
scheme. It is accepted that there will be LGBTI individuals
among those vulnerable people. However, I cannot ascertain
how the Government are recording whether any LGBTI person
has been accepted on that scheme. Will the Minister confirm
how many people have been accepted on the Syrian vulnerable
persons scheme based on their sexuality or sexual
orientation?
I have three questions. First, will the Minister commit to
look at the detention of LGBTI individuals? The impact of
that is traumatic, can be grave in terms of integration and
can leave individuals scarred for life. Secondly, will she
commit to look at the case of the two Syrians I have
mentioned, not in terms of determining their case but
looking at the human impact that a long period of 18 months
can have before someone is granted refugee status? Rather
than a statistic, it is a real human life example, which
could make for better policy. Thirdly, will she review the
way that the Syrian vulnerable persons scheme is working,
or not, for LGBTI individuals? That clearly needs to be
done. If the Minister and the Government commit to doing
that, we can take this issue forward, help people integrate
and play a bigger part in the life of this country and meet
their full potential.
8.14 pm
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(Con)
My Lords, I thank the right reverend Prelate for bringing
this report before the House. It is a positive sign that my
noble friend the Minister of State is replying to the
debate. Most of all, I thank the authors of the report, who
have opened my eyes and shone a light on what happens to
successful asylum seekers in the UK.
In the UK there was quite rightly a public outcry on behalf
of refugees after the tragic death of the child refugee,
Alan Kurdi. These deaths are unfortunately all too common.
As happens in Britain, the Government listened, reacted and
committed to accepting 20,000 Syrian refugees in the
lifetime of the Parliament. That is a very significant
number, given the total number of asylum seekers is
normally around 40,000 per year.
This report is timely because it has identified a two-tier
system that has been caused because of the creation of a
best practice—as we have heard from the right reverend
Prelate—that a government focus on the resettlement
programmes, especially the Syrian vulnerable people
resettlement programme, has brought about. This two-tier
system has now been recognised in both the APPG report and
the report of the Home Affairs Committee in the other place
published in January this year. The Government should be
congratulated on their continuing commitment to the
resettlement programme, working closely with local
authorities across the UK. However, this excellent report
from the APPG raises the plight of the four-fifths of
refugees seeking asylum in the UK who are not part of the
resettlement scheme and whose only choice is to seek asylum
once they arrive in the UK. One of the great ironies of
that is that 10% of all those seeking asylum are Syrians.
That underlines the two-tier process that we have that some
people of the same nationality can have two very different
experiences.
As we have heard, the report correctly identifies the
crucial moving-on period—the point at which the clock
starts ticking for the successful applicant with 28 days
left in Home Office accommodation and before Home Office
financial support comes to an end. That is the period in
which a successful asylum applicant has to find
accommodation, a job, seek benefits or enter education. It
is clear from the APPG report that too much is currently
left to chance. The timing of the arrival of the assigned
national insurance number, the biometric residence permit
and the letter informing the asylum seeker that they have
been successful do not appear to be co-ordinated. In the
report, there is an example of a successful asylum seeker
who received notice to quit his Home Office accommodation
but then did not receive notice that he had been successful
in his appeal for asylum for a further fortnight. What
should be a moment of vindication and hope for the
successful asylum applicant becomes one of confusion and,
for some, apparent freefall in the system.
I would be grateful to hear from my noble friend the
Minister how the Home office can further co-ordinate this
moving-on period with other departments and local
authorities to ensure a seamless move from Home office
accommodation. It is difficult to envisage how this could
happen without a dedicated resource to support these
vulnerable people and ensure that there is
cross-departmental access for such a team. The best
practice used for the resettlement programmes has surely
provided an opportunity for the expertise gained within the
Home Office to be deployed.
The Government have trialled successfully the community
sponsorship scheme from Canada, and I would hope that they
would also look to other international examples of where
refugees have been successfully integrated and been able to
fulfil their education and make an active economic
contribution to their new state. We cannot allow vulnerable
refugees to fall through the net and end up homeless in
abject poverty, therefore creating significant and,
importantly, more expensive responsibilities for the state
further down the line.
The Home Office has demonstrated the ability of central
government to work closely with local authorities to ensure
that vulnerable people are properly cared for in this
country. The report we have from the APPG points in several
important ways to how we can ensure that those same
vulnerable people receive sustained support, co-ordination
and management.
8.20 pm
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(LD)
My Lords, like other contributors to this evening’s debate,
I welcome the report from the APPG and thank the right
reverend Prelate the for bringing this
Question for Short Debate this evening.
Like the noble Lord, Lord McInnes, I found the report and
the contributions eye opening. This is clearly an issue
which ought to be much more the subject of public thought
and debate than has been the case. We have talked about the
Syrian refugees who were being brought to the United
Kingdom, and the former Prime Minister was clear about
bringing people over from the camps. That was a laudable
aim, but we have not talked sufficiently about what we do
to integrate refugees once they are given that status.
In September last year, the present Prime Minister said at
the leaders’ summit on refugees:
“We must ensure refugees can live with dignity and
self-sufficiency, as close as possible to their home
countries, to deter them from making dangerous onward
journeys, and to enable them eventually to return home and
rebuild”.
That all sounds absolutely laudable. However, what are Her
Majesty’s Government doing to ensure that those individuals
and their families who are not rehoused, rehomed or
resettled near to their home countries and who make it to
the United Kingdom and are granted refugee status are
indeed able to live with dignity and self-sufficiency?
Being awarded refugee status, as noble Lords have said,
ought to be the start of something new and hopeful, but for
many refugees that is not the case. As my noble friend
pointed out, the
starting point for most asylum seekers is not being
accorded refugee status—as is the case for the Syrians
under the resettlement programme—but may be a detention
centre. The very name “detention centre”, for somebody
fleeing for their life, sounds like an unfortunate place to
start. We then ensure that those people, who might be
highly skilled, talented, and who might have been
professionals in their own country, cannot work; that has
been brought up on a regular basis by my noble friend Lord
Roberts, and I suspect that it may come up again this
evening.
We do not allow asylum seekers to work and we give them a
small amount of money; are we really treating them with
dignity? Once they are accorded refugee status, as noble
Lords have already pointed out, they have 28 days to claim
benefit, which they will not get for six weeks, and to get
new accommodation, which will be difficult. If you do not
have references, do not speak English and you have just
arrived and have no contacts, how do you do all those
things? Finding accommodation is difficult at the best of
times for people who speak English and know how to work
through the rules and regulations of this country. If you
are new and you do not have advice, how do you do that?
It is extremely worrying that the APPG report talks about
the difficulty of getting ESOL training and about the
apparent cuts, despite a government commitment to increase
provision of language training. Could the Minister tell the
House what provision is being made and how far the
provision of English language training is being thought
about as part of a strategy for integrating refugees?
Finally, on health, the report notes the difficulty of
getting access to GPs. That is very much the start of
primary care. However, if people have fled difficult
situations, they may have mental health issues,
post-traumatic stress disorder or a whole range of complex
medical issues that need to be dealt with. Many of those
are difficult to talk about, even in one’s mother tongue.
If you do not speak English fluently and do not have the
ability to express yourself in English, what provision is
the NHS able to give to ensure that refugees are able to
get adequate training and that interpreters are available?
It is a second best, but at least it would be of some
benefit in getting adequate healthcare.
In sum, there is a question about how we treat asylum
seekers before they are given refugee status and how we
treat refugees once we have given them asylum. Under the
Geneva Convention on Refugees we have a duty. But there are
also moral obligations: duties of hospitality. Do Her
Majesty’s Government believe that they are delivering on
those?
8.25 pm
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(LD)
My Lords, it is a privilege to take part in this debate,
and I am grateful to the right reverend Prelate the
for introducing it.
Two reports have been published over the last few days: one
is Refugees Welcome?, which we are discussing now, and the
other, from the British Red Cross, is Can’t Stay, Can’t Go.
Both show that UK immigration and settlement policy is just
not fit for purpose. The battles we have fought over the
years are still unresolved: the right to work, adequate
benefits, indefinite detention and fair treatment of young
asylum seekers on reaching 18 years of age. It has been
mentioned that there will be a revisiting of asylum
decisions after five years, which will mean that, after
that period, people who have come here and have been
granted asylum can be placed in a situation where they
could well be deported. Can the Minister give an assurance
tonight that that is not so? The whole immigration process
is a labyrinth of confusion—it is time for a complete
overhaul and to listen to all concerned organisations so
that they can contribute and their voices will be heard in
any future legislation.
Tonight is also an opportunity to say thank you to all
those have worked to exhaustion and often put their own
careers on hold to meet the needs of those fleeing war and
destruction. The refugee camps would not exist or function
without them. We are eternally in their debt—not only major
charities but many smaller bands of people who have really
gone to extremes and sacrificed in order to man these
refugee camps. At home, too, we have scores of communities
where people have opened their hearts and their homes to
refugees. A host of projects have assisted with
integration. They have done and are doing an incredible job
to put ordinary people here in the UK in touch with people
who have come from areas of great deprivation.
I happen to be associated with a fairly new organisation,
the Citizens of the World Choir. It has people from 16
different nationalities, from A to Z—I thought that Aleppo
in Syria would be good for A and that Z could be for
Zimbabwe—and these people sing together with people from
this country who have been here for many years. So you have
many new projects. One of the youngsters who sings with
this choir came to see me only today, and I asked him,
“What is your dream?”. He wants to be a footballer, so I am
thinking of getting together a refugee football team.
Perhaps some of your Lordships would like to volunteer to
assist with that. We could have young people from different
nationalities working together, enjoying themselves
together and being given a wee bit of hope at a time of
great darkness in their lives. The choir went to sing at
the International Musical Eisteddfod in Llangollen a week
ago, and he said to me, “You know, that was the greatest
day of my life”. He is from Afghanistan. We take things for
granted. But this is about hope and about giving people a
little bit of enjoyment at a difficult time. You see how
they appreciate it. I mentioned before how people in
Aberystwyth welcome asylum seekers. The asylum seekers gave
flowers to the people of Aberystwyth.
Canada has been mentioned once or twice. It has accepted
40,000 refugees. Only last week I saw that there was a
baptism in Calgary at which the child was named Justin
Trudeau, after the Liberal Prime Minister. There is so much
appreciation. People have open hearts—much more so than
Governments. Here, we speak about choirs and sports teams
and about so much that is done, and we say thank you to
those people who have made sacrifices to help folk to
integrate. We are all God’s children. They have shoes and
these people also have shoes. It is not a case of “you” or
“me”; we are all God’s family. Let us ask the Government to
abandon their fear of critics. There are critics at the
extremes who would deny any positive work with refugees.
Let us take the lead from reports such as the one we are
discussing this evening and take away the question mark in
respect of Refugees Welcome? in this country.
8.31 pm
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(Lab)
My Lords, I have one brief question about access to higher
education, which relates to the recommendation at paragraph
139 of the report. During the passage of the higher
education Bill, I was assured that the Government would
give people with humanitarian protection refugee status to
enable them to get student support immediately. Is that
going to happen?
8.31 pm
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(Lab)
My Lords, I too add my congratulations to those already
expressed to the right reverend Prelate the on securing this
debate and on the report of the inquiry, of which he and my
noble friends Lady Lister of Burtersett and were members.
As the report says, very little time has been given to
considering what happens to refugees once they have been
granted protection by the UK Government. Accordingly, the
inquiry set out to ascertain to what extent refugees are
welcomed into the UK. As has been said, the evidence to the
inquiry indicated that a two-tier system has developed for
refugees. Those who arrive through a resettlement route are
provided with accommodation and receive support in
accessing services and finding employment; for those who
have gone through the asylum system, there is no such
support.
Significantly, the inquiry report states that that has not
always been the case, as between 2008 and 2011 the
Government funded a programme to help newly recognised
refugees through what is known as the move-on period,
offering a year of support. However, the programme was
ended in September 2011 and instead, after receiving a
positive decision on their application, newly recognised
refugees are now given just 28 days before the financial
support is cut off and they have to leave their
accommodation.
The inquiry found that, allied with the lack of support in
accessing the social security system—asylum seekers are
unable to work for at least 12 months—and the housing
market, the shortness of the 28-day move-on period leaves
many newly recognised refugees homeless and destitute. On
top of that, there are delays in receiving the documents
needed to register for social security support, and wrong
or incomplete advice is given at jobcentres. In addition,
with no payments being received for at least six weeks
after an application is submitted under the national
rollout of universal credit, the 28-day move-on period will
not be long enough even for those refugees who receive all
their documentation promptly.
The inquiry report recommended that the move-on period
should be extended to at least 50 days and that a national
refugee integration strategy, overseen by a Minister for
refugees, should address the issues which newly recognised
refugees face during the move-on period and which are
highlighted in the report.
The inquiry report also concluded that there was a
regrettable lack of a government cross-departmental
strategy setting out how all refugees can be successfully
integrated into the UK, not least covering the area of
support in learning English, the lack of which can have an
adverse impact on people accessing other areas of support,
securing employment and taking a full part in community
activities. The inquiry report made recommendations to
address this issue, including an increase in funding for
classes in English for speakers of other languages.
The report also drew attention to particular issues and
barriers faced by some groups of refugees—not least women
and children—such as exploitation and violence, greater
delays in accessing support due to the non-allocation of a
national insurance number, the shortage of available
childcare and a lack of both education and experience of an
educational environment. Again, the inquiry report includes
recommendations to address these concerns.
Other issues raised in the report, and in respect of which
recommendations are made, cover the causes of the
difficulties for some refugees in being reunited with
family members and the negative impact that this can have
on their prospects for integration, as well as their state
of mind. In addition, there is the impact that some aspects
of the asylum system and the process itself can have on
their future prospects of successfully integrating.
The inquiry report was published in April, so I hope that
the Minister will be able to give us some idea of the
Government’s thinking on its analysis of the experience of
new refugees in the UK and the recommendations made to
address the issues identified.
As has been said, the report draws attention to good work
that is being done in welcoming refugees. However, as it
says:
“Refugees want to integrate. They want to contribute their
skills, qualifications, experiences and knowledge. They
want to be with their families. They want to be safe”.
It is surely in everyone’s interests that all reasonable
steps are taken to enable those goals and objectives to be
achieved for those who have been granted protection by the
United Kingdom.
8.36 pm
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The Minister of State, Home Office (Baroness Williams of
Trafford) (Con)
My Lords, I thank the right reverend Prelate for securing
this debate and all noble Lords who have taken part in it. We
are grateful to the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Refugees
for its report and the opportunity to debate it this evening.
As the report highlights, the point at which someone is
granted protection or resettled in the UK and the time
thereafter can be absolutely critical to the integration
process. This is more important than ever given the
Government’s commitment to resettle 23,000 refugees on top of
our long-standing resettlement schemes, as my noble friend
pointed
out. This commitment to resettle refugees involves not only
central government but the work of local authorities and
local sponsorship groups.
Last year—noble Lords referred to this—the Government
launched the community sponsorship scheme, a pioneering
initiative that enables community groups to welcome and
support vulnerable refugee families into their communities.
Many noble Lords referred to the Canadians. I met with some
of them last night when I was in Manchester celebrating their
community sponsorship scheme in Trafford—one of the first
ones launched. I was delighted to meet a little boy who spoke
perfect English with a Mancunian accent. He told me that he
did not support United—who of course are based in
Trafford—but supported City. He was a delightful child.
Meeting the people last night was proof that community groups
provide warm and welcome support for refugee families,
including in housing, English language tuition, access to
local services, employment and self-sufficiency.
All refugees in the UK should and do have broadly the same
entitlement to public services and mainstream benefits as
British citizens. However, integration goes far wider than
that. It also involves a respect for our laws and values, and
a willingness to participate in the society to which the new
refugee has become connected.
The report touches on some important points and I shall try
to respond to them in turn. The first, widely mentioned,
point is the “move on” period, about which |I know the noble
Baroness, Lady Lister, is particularly concerned—but others
also referred to it Where an asylum seeker and any dependants
supported by the Home Office are granted asylum, humanitarian
protection status or another form of leave to remain, Home
Office support continues for a period of 28 days —something
of which noble Lords are well aware. The purpose of the
28-day period is to allow newly recognised refugees and those
granted leave to remain the time to obtain employment or to
apply for any mainstream welfare benefits to which they may
now be entitled.
We are aware that some refugees have not been able to access
these benefits before the 28-day period elapses, and this is
why the Home Office and DWP have been working together to
establish a new procedure to ensure that recognised refugees
are able to access welfare support as soon as possible. The
noble Baroness, Lady Lister, pointed out some of the
impediments.
Recognised refugees are contacted by Home Office staff at the
point they are granted refugee status, and if they need
assistance an appointment is made for them with the DWP
vulnerable persons service. This service assists individuals
with their benefits application and with other matters,
including setting up a temporary Post Office account for
their benefits payments to be paid into if they do not yet
have a bank account.
The noble Baroness also mentioned that a full evaluation is
being undertaken, and the initial results are promising. We
are committed to ensuring a smooth transition from Home
Office support to mainstream support and have previously
stated in this House that if our evaluation shows that the
current 28-day move-on period is not enough, we will look
again at the appropriate time period. I confirm once again to
the noble Baroness that we will keep Parliament and this
House updated on that.
On access to employment, noble Lords will be aware that
asylum seekers are not allowed to work in the UK unless their
claim has been outstanding for at least 12 months through no
fault of their own. Those who are allowed to work are
restricted to jobs on the shortage occupation list published
by the Home Office. This policy is designed to protect the
resident labour market by prioritising access to employment
for British citizens and those lawfully resident here,
including those granted refugee status.
Those who are granted refugee status or humanitarian
protection, including those who are resettled to the UK, have
immediate and unrestricted access to the labour market.
Finding work is a key stage of becoming a part of your new
community. In particular, it allows individuals to move
towards becoming self-sufficient. We are aware, however, that
for refugees it is particularly difficult to find employment,
not least because of the language barriers referred to
previously. I will explain how we seek to address that
through provision in language skills.
In our approach to skills training overall, we aim to create
a fair balance between the investment made by government, the
employer and the individual. Adults who are granted refugee
status are as eligible for funding from the Skills Funding
Agency as any other resident and are not subject to the
normal three-year qualifying period. The Government have to
identify how to prioritise public funding and we think that
this is an appropriate balance that is supportive of
refugees. At the moment, it is too early to tell how access
to the labour market and skills training will work out for
refugees who arrive through the resettlement programme. Many
of them will be here because of vulnerability and this may
affect the length of time needed and the support needed for
them to access the labour market when compared with others.
Language skills are clearly key to participation in the
labour market and the ability to speak English is also a key
enabler to successful integration. The basis of our work in
this area is the support that the Government provide for
learning English to speakers of other languages, known as
ESOL, as part of a wider strategy to improve adult literacy
in England. Colleges and training providers have the freedom
and flexibility to determine how they use their adult
education budget to meet the needs of their communities. They
are required to plan which ESOL courses they deliver locally,
within their resources, and through this they can meet the
needs of newly recognised refugees. We do expect those
attending to make a contribution to some of the cost of ESOL
training, but not to all the costs. In fact, we meet 50% of
the costs, and all the costs where people need ESOL training
to get off benefits and into work.
We also recognise that voluntary and community-based groups
can play a valuable role in helping individuals improve their
English. Again, I have seen this at first hand in Manchester.
They provide support, access to more information, a stronger
sense of belonging, and the opportunity to help others and to
increase personal skills, all of which are opportunities that
should not be underestimated, and we welcome this
involvement. On top of that, we are doing more as we learn
about the experience of the groups who are arriving for
resettlement and who have been identified as having
particular vulnerabilities. We are tackling some of the
difficulties that they face in attending English language
classes. To support local authorities with addressing these
difficulties, an additional £10 million has been provided so
that they can deliver additional English language training
for those arriving under the resettlement programme. A
proportion of the funding, up to 25%, can be used to increase
infrastructure, for example on training teachers and tackling
barriers to accessibility.
Recognising that the need for childcare is a particular
barrier to accessing ESOL, we have made additional funding of
£600,000 available to local authorities in 2016-17, 2017-18
and 2018-19, and £500,000 in 2019-20 to enable them to
provide additional childcare. We are also providing funding
for regional ESOL co-ordination via strategic migration
partnerships to promote best practice and map provision,
along with support for authorities to commission services and
co-ordinate volunteers.
I will turn now to children, as they get a special mention in
the report. All children are entitled to free primary and
secondary education. This is because the Government recognise
that children are children first and foremost and we do not
distinguish based on immigration status. Children in
full-time education will receive English language support in
schools. Further financial support for English as an
additional language can be provided and the decisions are
made at a local level.
Turning now to the findings of the report on family reunion,
we support the principle of family unity and recognise the
role it can play in supporting integration. The UK already
has several routes for families to be reunited safely. We
have reunited more than 23,000 refugees with their immediate
family in the last five years and continue to do so. As the
report highlights, the point at which someone is granted
protection or resettled in the UK and the time thereafter can
be critical to the integration process. It is more important
than ever, given the UK Government’s commitment to resettling
23,000 refugees on top of our long-standing resettlement
schemes.
I am aware that time has moved on and that I will not be able
to answer all the additional points which have been made in
the debate. I thank all noble Lords for taking part. There
are some specific questions which have been put to me, but in
12 minutes I cannot go through them all. I hope that I have
outlined the points made in the report and I will write to
noble Lords in due course.
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