Air Travel Organisers’ Licensing Bill Second Reading Mr
Speaker Before I call the Minister of State to move that the
Bill be read a Second time, I warn new Members, large numbers of
whom are seeking to make their maiden speeches, that they must
remain for the opening speeches and that remaining for the Minister
of State’s speech means that they not only are about to learn quite
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Air Travel Organisers’ Licensing Bill
Second Reading
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Mr Speaker
Before I call the Minister of State to move that the Bill
be read a Second time, I warn new Members, large numbers of
whom are seeking to make their maiden speeches, that they
must remain for the opening speeches and that remaining for
the Minister of State’s speech means that they not only are
about to learn quite a lot about air travel organisation
and licensing, but will probably benefit from a fair number
of literary and possibly philosophical references in the
course of his oration. I speak with some experience of
these matters.
5.40 pm
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The Minister of State, Department for Transport (Mr John
Hayes)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
It is both fitting and humbling, as you will gladly
acknowledge, Mr Speaker, that I should have been chosen to
introduce the first piece of legislation of this new
Parliament—fitting because of my status and popularity, and
humbling because it does not pay to draw attention to
either of them.
Hon. Members will recognise in taking a look at the Bill,
as I am sure they have, that it reflects that this
Government, like others before it, recognise the value of
providing UK businesses with the best possible
opportunities to grow and also ensuring that consumers are
protected when and how they need to be in respect of, in
this case, how and when they purchase their holidays. I am
introducing the Air Travel Organisers’ Licensing Bill so
that we can ensure that consumer protection for
holidaymakers can keep pace with changes in the travel
market.
The Bill has a long genesis in two ways. First, it builds
on long established good practice. The arrangement in the
Bill is born of the arrangement of a similar kind that
began in the 1970s to protect the interests of travellers.
Secondly, we have already debated these issues at some
length. We had an earlier Bill, to which I will refer
later, in which these measures were included. We gave that
Bill a Second Reading and debated it in Committee in some
detail. That was done in a convivial, consensual and
helpful way, and I shall also refer to that later.
There is recognition across the House that the consumer
protection measures in respect of holidays and
holidaymakers need to keep pace with changing circumstances
and conditions in the travel market. There may be those in
the Chamber who, affected by the specious and pernicious
appeal of liberalism—because it does appeal to some
people—believe that the free market can sort all these
things out for itself. That is not a view that I hold, and
I know that there will be wise heads across the Chamber who
recognise the efficacious role of Government in intervening
where the market fails. It does not happen regularly in
respect of holiday companies: anyone who looks at the
history of this area of the Government’s work will
recognise that it has been rare for the fund established by
the air travel organisers’ licence to be called upon. None
the less, it is an important fund and an important
protection. It provides assurance and confidence to
holidaymakers as they go about their lawful and regular
business.
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Mr Speaker
Order. I am sorry that I am not able to continue to enjoy
the right hon. Gentleman’s oratory, but that particular
pleasure is now to be enjoyed by the First Deputy Chairman
of Ways and Means. I have heard the first of the right hon.
Gentleman’s philosophical references and I am sure that the
Chamber will hear several more in the minutes to follow.
New Members are probably somewhat befuddled by this state
of affairs, but I think I can tell colleagues that the
right hon. Gentleman is what might be called a one-off.
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Mr Hayes
Madam Deputy Speaker, let me say—as the Speaker leaves the
Chamber—that I was about to move to John Ruskin, who said:
“the first test of a truly great man is his humility.”
We present this legislation in that humble spirit,
recognising that this is a changing market and the
Government must act to reflect that change, but
recognising, too, that the market will continue to change.
Any Government who believed that this was the end of the
story would, I think, be disregarding the further changes
that are likely to result from technology, the way people
organise their affairs, the way they book their holidays,
the way the internet operates, and the fact that other
technology will change the way we go about our business. I
therefore have no doubt that there will be a need for
further provision at some point in the future, but, at this
stage, the Bill is an important step in bringing the ATOL
provisions up to date and up to speed.
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(Kilmarnock and Loudoun)
(SNP)
rose—
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Mr Hayes
I will happily give way to the hon. Gentleman, who played a
useful role in the Committee to which I referred a few
moments ago.
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I thank the Minister for giving way, and for saying that I
played a useful role. As he knows, this legislation was
part of the Vehicle Technology and Aviation Bill. What will
happen to other measures that were in that Bill,
particularly those relating to offences involving the use
of lasers that affect pilots?
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Mr Hayes
I would not want to test your patience, Madam Deputy
Speaker, or indeed your largesse, by ranging widely across
the provisions of the other aspects of the Vehicle
Technology and Aviation Bill, but the hon. Gentleman is
right to point out that, as I said earlier, these measures
had their origin—their genesis—in that Bill. We will bring
further measures to the House: the Queen’s Speech makes it
clear, for example, that we will address the issues of
autonomous and electric vehicles, which the hon. Gentleman
debated, alongside the Opposition spokesman, the hon.
Member for Middlesbrough (Andy McDonald), and others, in
the Committee that I mentioned. Further measures will be
presented, and—not wishing to test your generosity any
further, Madam Deputy Speaker—I think I will leave it at
that.
In this new Parliament, many of the measures that I
described as essential will be introduced, and this ATOL
reform is one of them. I hope that our debate today will
match the convivial and consensual spirit of our
discussions in the Bill Committee to which the hon. Member
for Kilmarnock and Loudoun (Alan Brown) alluded. We made
progress on both sides of that Committee, and I hope that
it continues. I think it fair to say that those discussions
demonstrated that there was really
“no difference of ?principle between the Government and the
Opposition on this matter.”—[Official Report, Vehicle
Technology and Aviation Public Bill Committee, 21 March
2017; c. 25.]
Those are not my words, but the words of the hon. Member
for Birmingham, Northfield (Richard Burden), who also
played a useful role in the Committee.
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(Luton North)
(Lab)
I very much agreed with the Minister’s earlier
philosophical comments about the appropriateness of
Government regulation in matters such as this. I am sure
that many holidaymakers will feel more secure when the Bill
has been passed, knowing that they will not be left
stranded abroad with no means of getting back. May I ask
whether the Minister has consulted closely with the
airlines, particularly those that fly planes from London
Luton airport with holiday packages?
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Mr Hayes
I will come to that later, because the hon. Gentleman is
right to draw attention to the role of the airlines in all
this. As he will know, they are covered by other licensing
arrangements, but I will address the specific points that
he has made. As ever, he has made a case for his Luton
constituents, and particularly for Luton airport, which I
know is in his constituency.
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(Carmarthen East and
Dinefwr) (PC)
As the Minister knows, Cardiff international airport is
owned by the Welsh people via our own Government. What
discussions has he had with the Welsh Government about the
Bill’s impact on operators working from Cardiff?
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Mr Hayes
Prior to that first Bill, we had discussions with devolved
Governments about its character and content, and I think
that there is agreement across the kingdom about the
necessity for these measures. I always enjoy my discussions
with the devolved Governments, and will continue to do so
in my role as Minister of State. However, the hon.
Gentleman is right to say that the Bill will affect all
parts of our kingdom, not least because of the travel that
takes place to and from different parts of it by air. We
will certainly want to continue to receive representations
from those Governments as these matters roll out.
Before I go any further, let me say something that I should
have said at the outset. As you will know, Madam Deputy
Speaker, there has been some debate in the Chamber in
recent days about sartorial standards. I ought to say, as a
matter of courtesy, that I will not be taking interventions
from any Member who is not wearing a tie, on whichever side
of the House that Member may sit. However, I believe in
generosity as well as in courtesy, and I will provide a
tie, which I have here, for anyone who is sartorially
challenged or inadequate. Of course, I exclude lady Members
from that; I would hardly expect them to dress in my tie,
their own or anyone else’s.
Let us move to the origins of the UK holiday market. This
week will see one of the UK’s, and the world’s, leading
travel brands celebrate 175 years of travel. It was on 5
July 1841 that Thomas Cook arranged the first excursion.
That was a one-day train journey from Leicester to a
temperance meeting in Loughborough. The train carried
around 500 passengers a distance of 12 miles and back for a
shilling. Contrary to popular belief, I was not the
Transport Minister at the time, and I certainly was not one
of the passengers, but those early excursions were
significant. They helped to form the foundations of the
travel and tourism sector in the UK. The growth of the
railways meant that, for the first time, affordable travel
could be combined with leisure activities or accommodation
and offered to a growing population of consumers.
Of course, today’s holidays—today’s excursions—are quite
different from those first ones. Society has changed, and
the promise of sun, sea and sand means holidays are more
likely to be driven by temperature than temperance. I
personally choose to have my holidays on the east coast of
England, largely, in Broadstairs, Northumberland and most
places in between, but not everyone does, and those who
want to travel further afield and those who wish to use
technology to make those choices will want to know that
they are protected in doing so.
The advancement of technology has continued to drive the
biggest challenges facing the leisure travel sector.
Affordable air travel and fuel efficient planes mean that
people are able to travel further, and for longer. The
growth of the internet and mobile phone technologies have
revolutionised the way people book holidays, creating
greater opportunities for consumers and businesses.
We debated these issues on the Committee to which the hon.
Member for Kilmarnock and Loudoun referred. It was clear to
us then, and I think to the whole House, that the UK has
continued to lead the way. We have one of the most
innovative and advanced leisure travel sectors in the world
and one of the biggest markets in Europe. Overall, tourism
contributes close to £121 billion to our economy annually,
with outbound tourism contributing around £30 billion.
Strong consumer protection is vital to underpin confidence
in that important sector. By its very nature, there are a
number of risks in the holiday market which have existed
ever since those first excursions. It is common for
consumers to pay up front on the promise of a holiday,
which may be many weeks or even months away. There can be a
lack of awareness of the financial stability of holiday
providers, particularly as services are often provided by
third parties. In the rare event of a company failure—I
mentioned at the outset that it is rare— consumers may
experience a financial loss from a cancelled holiday, or
significant difficulties from being stranded abroad. It was
against that backdrop that the air travel organiser’s
licence scheme, the ATOL scheme, was introduced in the
1970s for UK holidaymakers flying overseas.
I will not tire the House with a long, exhaustive history
of the ATOL scheme. I see that that is disappointing to
you, Madam Deputy Speaker, and to others, but I want to
give all Members as much opportunity as possible to
contribute to this important debate. Suffice it to say that
the ATOL scheme protects consumers if their travel company
fails. It does that in two ways.
First, travel firms that sell flight packages in the UK
must hold an ATOL licence, issued by the Civil Aviation
Authority. That helps to regulate entry into the market and
to filter out companies that are not financially robust.
Secondly, the scheme acts as a fund to compensate consumers
who might be caught up in a failure. The ATOL licensed
company must pay a small levy, £2.50, for each person
protected by ATOL. That money is then held in the air
travel trust fund and used by the CAA to ensure that
consumers are returned home or refunded when a company
fails.
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Mr (Luton South)
(Lab/Co-op)
The Minister looks delighted to give way on that specific
point; I am sure he will want to say more about it. First,
a correction—Luton airport is in the constituency of Luton
South. My hon. Friend the Member for Luton North (Kelvin
Hopkins) and I have many a competitive conversation about
it. On the £2.50 levy, I understand that there is a
significant surplus in the fund now. Is the Minister
confident that, under the new arrangements, where airlines
may look around European member states in considering the
best regime into which to pay, £2.50 is competitive and the
right figure to charge?
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Mr Hayes
First, I apologise for ascribing Luton airport to the
constituency neighbour of the hon. Gentleman, and not to
him. As he will know, in a previous ministerial job, I was
able to visit Luton South and to enjoy his hospitality
there alongside the local authority. Luton is playing a
bigger part in this debate than we may have expected; both
Luton Members have contributed to it. As he will know, the
fund is administered by the CAA, with trustees appointed by
the Secretary of State. It builds up and is invested
accordingly.
As we speak, there is about £140 million in the fund. If a
major holiday company collapsed, it would be essential that
there were sufficient moneys in the fund to cover that
collapse. That could happen more than once in a short
period; that is not inconceivable. The critical thing is
that the fund is never short of money. The guarantee is
that we will protect consumers and get people home safely
from perhaps far-flung destinations and that they will not
lose out as a result of things that they could not have
anticipated or affected.
If it is helpful, I will be more than happy to provide the
whole House with a further note on how the fund has changed
and grown over time. I have mentioned what it is comprised
of. I think it would be helpful for me to make available to
the Library, and therefore to the House, more details of
the kind the hon. Gentleman has asked about. It will help
to inform further consideration of these matters as we move
from Second Reading.
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(Nottingham South)
(Lab)
The Minister is right to say that there is cross-party
support for greater protection of consumers, but he also
mentioned safety. Could he take this opportunity to tell us
whether Transport Ministers intend to introduce legislation
to deal not just with the dangers posed by laser pens, but
with the dangers posed by drones, which we have heard about
again today?
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Mr Hayes
The hon. Lady will know that that, too, was raised in our
discussions on what was originally known as the modern
transport Bill—or at least apocryphally known as such—and
became the Vehicle Technology and Aviation Bill. She will
also know—because of her keen interest in transport matters
and her enthusiasm to take those matters further with an
election, to which I will not refer more than
obliquely—that we are consulting on those matters; the
consultation has finished and we will bring our conclusions
to the House and elsewhere very shortly. However, she is
right to say—I am happy to put this on the record—that that
is a matter of some concern. Existing legislation provides
some protection. For example, if a drone were interfering
with military aircraft or a secure site, existing
legislation would cover that to some degree, but there is a
case to do more, which is why we have consulted on the
matter. I know that she will give the results of the
consultation and our response to it her close attention, as
she always does.
Let me move on; as I said, I do not want to prolong this
exciting speech too much. As I said, the scheme also acts
to compensate consumers who might be caught up in a
failure. I have talked about the fund which is administered
by the CAA to ensure that consumers are returned home, and
since the 1990s the ATOL scheme has been the primary method
by which the UK travel sector provides insolvency
protection under the UK and Europe package travel regimes.
Today the scheme protects over 20 million people each year,
giving peace of mind to holidaymakers in Luton and
elsewhere.
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It is reported in the notes that between 1998 and 2009 the
proportion of ATOL sales fell from 90% of leisure flights
to just 50%. That is a substantial drop in just 11 years.
Were some passengers affected by not being covered during
that period?
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Mr Hayes
As I said at the beginning of my remarks, the purpose of
this Bill is to ensure that ATOL remains fit for purpose.
The hon. Gentleman is right that the way people travel, the
means by which they book their holidays, and the
organisations they use to do so are changing. That is why
we must look again at ATOL: not because it has not worked
or because its principles are not right, but because it
needs to reflect those changes. This Bill is the first step
in doing so. Anticipating—although not impertinently—what
the shadow Secretary of State might ask me, it is also true
to say that this Bill is just that: a first step that
creates a framework that will allow us to update ATOL.
Further steps will be required, which might come through
regulation or further review of the appropriateness of what
we are putting into place today. The hon. Gentleman raised
that point when we debated these matters briefly before,
and I have no doubt that he will want to press me on it
again today, but there is an absolute acknowledgement that
this is a rapidly moving marketplace that will require
rapidity in our response.
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(Milton Keynes South)
(Con)
Having also served on the Vehicle Technology and Aviation
Bill Committee, I have a sense of déjà vu here. I agree
with the general nature of the measures the Minister wishes
to introduce, because he is right that it is a fast-moving
market, but there is also some concern in the industry,
which plans typically 12 to 18 months ahead, that it will
need some of the detail of the secondary legislation as
soon as possible, to allow it to prepare effectively for
that.
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Mr Hayes
My hon. Friend might have raised that point in that
Committee; my memory is good but not encyclopaedic, but I
do seem to recall that he has made this point previously.
He is both authoritative on matters regarding transport,
having served with distinction on the Select Committee, and
consistent in his line of argument. His is a perfectly fair
question, and it is what the Opposition and the whole House
would expect, so we will provide as much information as we
can about what further steps we might take in terms of
regulation. There is nothing to be hidden here; there is no
unnecessary contention associated with this and certainly
no desire not to get this right, and the best way of
getting it right is to listen and learn—as is so often the
case in politics, in Government and in life.
I have talked a little about the diversification of the
market and the growth of the internet and smart
technologies. That is not a bad thing: consumers now have
many options at their fingertips to buy holidays and put
together their own packages. Indeed, an ABTA survey
estimates that about 75% of UK consumers now book their
holidays over the internet. As methods of selling holidays
modernise, we must adapt the schemes and regulations that
protect them.
“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of
intelligent effort”,
as Ruskin also said. That is why we took steps in 2012 to
update the ATOL scheme; we introduced the ATOL certificate
confirming the protection covered, and broadened the scope
of protection to include “flight plus” holidays. These
interventions have had a positive impact, extending
consumer protection, levelling the playing field for
businesses and improving clarity for all. The key here is
that consumers know when and how they are protected: making
sure the system is as comprehensible and comprehensive as
possible is an important aim.
We now need to build upon the changes we made then, and
make sure that ATOL keeps pace with the changing travel
market. In particular, the new EU package travel directive
was agreed in 2015 to bring similar, but further-reaching,
improvements to consumer protection across the whole of
Europe. I said earlier that the United Kingdom had led the
way in this field. It is not unreasonable to say that
Europe is now saying it wants similar provisions across
other countries to the ones we have had here for some time.
So that travel directive is both reflective of, and perhaps
even, to some degree, inspired by, the success of our
arrangements. This will need to be implemented into the UK
package travel regulations by 1 January 2018.
The Government supported the rationale for updating the
package travel directive. It will help to modernise and
harmonise protection across Europe. Broadly, it will mean
that the protection offered across Europe will be closer to
the protection we have enjoyed from the beginning of ATOL,
but most especially since the changes we put in place in
2012. It will ensure there is a consistent approach to the
protection.
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(Torbay) (Con)
The Minister is giving an interesting and full explanation
of the benefits of this Bill.
Will the Minister clarify that the point is that the ATOL
regulations currently apply to first-leg flights out from
the United Kingdom and a UK airport, but that under this
Bill the intention will be that in future if a UK
ATOL-regulated operator sells a package virtually anywhere
in Europe, as long as they comply with the rules here, that
will be covered by the ATOL scheme and the potential levy?
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Mr Hayes
Yes, that is part of what we aim to do: the aim is to
ensure that if a holiday is bought here, wherever the
person goes they are protected in exactly the way my hon.
Friend described. He is also right to say that part of the
change is the way people book and make their holiday plans,
and part is about how and where people travel. The package
holidays people first enjoyed in the 1960s and ’70s are
less routine now in that they are no longer the routine way
people travel to the continent and further afield, and ATOL
was of course born in that period when things were
simpler—thus my point for the need for it to evolve, as it
has to keep pace with these kinds of changes. That
consistent protection of holidays across Europe will ensure
that informal package holidays booked online will get the
same protection as traditional package holidays booked on
the high street—holidays of the kind that had their
beginnings in the ’60s and ’70s.
For the first time, these measures will also bring
protection to a new concept of “linked travel
arrangements”, which I think is what my hon. Friend was
referring to. This concept is designed to provide some
protection to business models which are not packages, but
which often compete closely with packages.
Overall, the new directive has the potential to provide a
greater level of protection to UK consumers, whether they
purchase from a company established in the UK or overseas.
It will also help to level the playing field for companies
whether they are in the UK or overseas, and whether they
operate on the high street or online.
That point matters in itself. This is about protecting
consumers, and about the clarity and comprehensibility that
I described. It is also important for those in the travel
sector and the industry to know where they stand. Creating
a greater degree of consistency for them matters too,
particularly for smaller businesses that really need to
know, as well as to feel, that the regulations apply across
the board in a consistent, fair, reasonable and
implementable way.
In order to bring the new directive into force by July
2018, the four clauses simply enable the ATOL scheme to be
aligned with the updated package travel regulations. The
combined clauses will mean UK-established companies are
able to sell holidays more easily. They will be able to
protect these holidays through ATOL, and they will not need
to comply with different schemes in each country. That is
the essence of what we are trying to achieve today. The
Bill will also extend the CAA’s information powers so that
they are more able to regulate the scheme and this
cross-border activity.
Finally, the Bill will allow the scheme to be able to adapt
more effectively to changes in the travel market. I have
said that I anticipate further change as time goes on, and
the Bill paves the way for that. Overall, the updates we
will make to the ATOL and package travel regulations will
mean that consumer protection can extend to a broader range
of holidays. This will mean that protection is provided for
traditional and online package holidays, but also for
looser combinations of travel, which have previously been
out of scope.
Of course, we also need to be mindful that the regulatory
landscape will need to be able to adapt to changes in our
relationship with the European Union. The changes we are
making are in keeping with this principle. They will help
UK consumers, businesses and regulators to transition to
the new package travel regulations in 2018 with minimal
impact, but we will also retain flexibility in ATOL
regulations to adapt to the changes in our relationship
with the European Union, ensuring that we continue to have
strong consumer protections in place as we leave the EU.
I hope that that has given a clear and reasonably concise
picture of the Bill and the reasons for introducing it. As
I have said, the UK has always been a leader in this field.
We have led in so many ways and so many areas, and when it
comes to providing protection for holiday makers, the Bill
will ensure that the UK continues to lead, whether we are
inside or outside the EU. It will provide UK businesses
with the opportunity to expand and grow, and it will
provide a framework to ensure that ATOL remains flexible
enough to cope with future trends. The Bill is indicative
of a Government who are willing to act to protect and
preserve the people’s interests, and I stand here as a
Minister ready to do that. It is a Bill for the people from
a Government of the people.
6.11 pm
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(Middlesbrough)
(Lab)
It was all going so well until that last comment! The
Minister has it right, however, when he says that the Bill
is to be welcomed. The events of failure are rare, but it
is imperative that this market and the response to it
should develop so that people who experience those failures
have recourse to a remedy. He will find a great deal of
support on this side of the House for what he has said and
for the Bill. I thank him for his summary and his account.
He is right to say that matters in the related Bill were
conducted with a great deal of conviviality, courtesy and
humility, and he is to be credited with ensuring that that
was so.
As the Minister said, it is with a sense of déjà vu that we
are debating these changes to the air travel organisers’
licensing system. It has been only four months since these
self-same clauses received their Second Reading when they
made up part of the Vehicle Technology and Aviation Bill—or
VTAB, as we liked to call it. It ought to be an Act by
now—VTAA—but sadly we must still refer to it as VTAB. The
Prime Minister’s decision to call an early election meant
that VTAB, along with a whole host of other legislation,
had to be dropped.
Given that we had wasted a great deal of parliamentary time
and effort, it was quite a surprise to see that there was
no reference to VTAB in the Queen’s Speech. Instead, the
Government have decided to fragment the legislation,
splitting it between the Bill we are debating today and the
automated and electric vehicles Bill that will be
introduced later in the Parliament. It is interesting to
note that 50% of the legislative programme relating to
transport for the next two years of this Parliament will
merely be clauses that have been copied and pasted from
VTAB, a Bill that should have already been passed into law.
This surely highlights how this minority Government are out
of ideas and have very little new to offer the country as
they focus their attention on a desperate attempt to cling
to power.
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Mr
With the greatest respect, I think that the hon. Gentleman
is underselling himself. The progress we made in Committee
and on consideration of the previous Bill meant that, when
the Government came to look at the model of what good
legislation should look like, they needed to look no
further than the work that he and I had done. I take most
of the credit for that, but I think he should take some
too.
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As ever, the Minister is extremely generous in his praise.
He is right, however, to say that we made a lot of
progress. I just hope that we do not have to do it all over
again. That is the point.
The Government do not have a plan to reintroduce VTAB in
its entirety, even though it should already have been taken
through. Madam Deputy Speaker, you could be forgiven for
asking why the Government do not dare to try to pass
legislation that has already passed through this place and
received support from both sides of the House. Indeed, it
is a matter of considerable concern that a number of
important clauses from VTAB appear to have been left out of
the Government’s forthcoming legislative programme. They
include the clauses in part 4 of VTAB that related to
vehicle testing, the shining of lasers—which the hon.
Member for Kilmarnock and Loudoun (Alan Brown) mentioned
earlier—and diversionary driving courses. The clauses in
part 3 relating to air traffic services also appear to have
been axed. Perhaps the Minister can offer some explanation
of why he previously deemed it a necessity to legislate on
those issues, as they are not being reintroduced now.
Moreover, during the progression of VTAB, Labour Members
raised concerns over the absence of legislation to create a
regulatory framework to deal with drones. With the
proliferation of drones in recent years, we have seen a
sharp increase in the number of near misses with planes.
The latest figures show that there were 33 such incidents
confirmed in the first five months of this year and 70 last
year, compared with only 29 in 2015 and just 10 in the five
years before that. Representatives of the aviation industry
have expressed their concern over the Government’s failure
to bring in legislation to tackle this worrying trend.
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I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way; I
enjoyed our exchanges in the Committee stage of the
previous Bill. I may be wrong, but given the intervention I
made on the Minister earlier, I believe that it is
important to get this Bill on to the statute book as early
as possible so that the subsequent regulations can come
into effect in an industry that has to plan 12 to 18 months
in advance. The other measures that the hon. Gentleman
mentioned are important, but they could be put into a
different Bill. Perhaps that is the reason they are not in
this one.
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The hon. Gentleman makes a reasonable point, but those
matters were considered an important part of VTAB, as were
the bits relating to ATOL. It is a gross omission for us to
come this far and not deal with such important matters now.
Certainly, if the roles were reversed, we would want to
introduce legislation before a near miss turns into a
catastrophic incident that could have been avoided. We have
heard about an incident at Gatwick airport in the past 24
hours, and this matter should concern everyone in the
House. I make a genuine offer to the Minister that we will
be nothing other than wholly supportive if the Government
wish to bring forward legislation and regulations better to
protect our airports and other places of great sensitivity.
This is a huge issue, and the drone industry and others who
support such legislation believe that the freedom to
indulge in this activity is coming ahead of safety at the
moment. I put it gently to colleagues that we should really
be looking closely at this.
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Mr Hayes
The hon. Gentleman does the House a service in raising this
matter. The hon. Member for Nottingham South (Lilian
Greenwood) challenged me on it in an earlier intervention,
and I made it clear that we had consulted on it—the hon.
Gentleman will be familiar with the consultation exercise
that we have been engaged in—precisely because we agree
that the matter requires further consideration. I am happy
to engage directly in discussions with him so that we can
find a way forward on drones. He is right to say that this
a changing and potentially challenging matter, and we need
to work not only as a Government but as a Parliament to
address it, so I am happy to take up his offer of
discussions on the back of that consultation and our
response to it.
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I am again grateful to the Minister for his consistent,
collegiate attitude and for his co-operation. His approach
to this Bill is exactly the same as it was with the
previous Bill, and that should be acknowledged. The Labour
party shares his objective of making this Bill and the
forthcoming transport Bills relating to automated and
electric vehicles and to the space industry the best
possible pieces of legislation as they pass through the
House. We only wish that the Government were prepared to
respond to the rapid technological advances of recent years
and to bring forward legislation in the areas that I
outlined, which are in urgent need of a regulatory
framework. It has become quite clear in recent weeks that
inaction can risk lives.
As we stated when the measures in this Bill were first laid
out in VTAB, the broad substance of the changes to ATOL are
necessary and, for the most part, welcomed. The changes
will harmonise UK law with the latest EU package travel
directive, leading to many benefits for UK consumers and UK
travel operators. A wider range of operators, including
more dynamic package providers, will likely be covered
under the changes, bringing protection to many more UK
holidaymakers not covered under existing ATOL provisions.
The requirement for travel companies to be in line with
standards at “place of establishment” instead of “place of
sale” will now mean that UK companies can sell far more
seamlessly across Europe by simply adhering to the widely
respected ATOL flag.
However, the EU-level changes do bring about something that
could have adverse effects for some UK consumers purchasing
from EU-based travel companies. The changes made through
the directive will now mean that EU-based companies selling
in the UK have to adhere only to an ATOL-equivalent
insolvency protection laid out in the member state where
the business is based. In practice, that could have
unintended consequences and, more significantly, costs for
UK consumers. Processes and timescales for recompense may
be distinctly different to what many travellers would
expect under the gold standard of ATOL. The impact
assessment warns:
“If consumers purchase a trip from a business established
elsewhere in the EU and the company becomes insolvent there
may be some costs to the consumer of processing a claim
with a non-UK insolvency protector.”
Based on the latest CAA figures, that is not just something
that will impact on a relatively small number of
holidaymakers; it would currently compromise over 500,000
passengers. It is therefore important the Government take
appropriate steps to anticipate and prepare for any
negative impacts. As suggested by the Opposition when the
Vehicle Technology and Aviation Bill was in Committee,
making it a requirement for the Government to monitor the
impact for UK consumers using EU-based companies would help
inform the Government about whether they should consider
further guidance or co-operation with consumers and EU
member states to ensure that adequate protections are in
place.
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Mr Hayes
The hon. Gentleman will know that the existing legislation
contains an obligation to review it after five years. He is
making an argument that he has made previously, and it
seems to have some weight. I am open-minded about how we
consider such things, and I will certainly reflect on his
point about our need to consider the impact of the changes
that he describes. I am more than happy to include that in
our discussions about drones.
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I am grateful to the Minister for that clarification.
The Bill’s second clause is not directly relevant to
harmonising UK with EU regulation, but it contains a
dormant power that the Government will retain, enabling
them to make considerable changes to ATOL with regard to
air travel trusts. During an evidence session when VTAB was
in Committee, we heard from Richard Moriarty of the CAA, a
trustee of the current air travel trust, who recognised the
possible merits of separating the trust to reflect the
variations of products in the market. However, he explained
that we simply are not there yet and that it would be wrong
for the Government to use this Bill as a means of making
wholesale changes without due consultation. The Minister
made it clear in a letter to me that changes would be made
only through the affirmative procedure, yet the Bill does
not account for any further consultation as part of this
measure. Labour will therefore be again seeking a
commitment from the Minister, which he gave in Committee
during the progress of VTAB, that the Government will
conduct a thorough impact assessment and consultation
before implementing the power. Mr Moriarty said at the
evidence session that he hoped that the Government
“will follow the practice that they have followed today:
consult with us, consult the industry, do the impact
assessment, and so on.”––[Official Report, Vehicle
Technology and Aviation Public Bill Committee, 14 March
2017; c. 30, Q150.]
Accordingly, if the Government were to undertake a full
impact assessment and consultation before bringing forward
regulations to create any new air travel trusts through the
affirmative procedure, that would be fair and reasonable
and would guarantee scrutiny of any further changes to
ATOL.
To conclude, while the Opposition are frustrated that the
general election meant that the Vehicle Technology and
Aviation Bill was dropped and, moreover, we are concerned
with the Government’s decision to omit a large proportion
of the legislation as it is reintroduced in this
Parliament, Labour none the less broadly supports this
Bill. We welcome the changes that will harmonise UK law
with the latest EU package travel directive, which will
have many benefits for UK consumers and UK travel
operators. However, we have concerns about the levels of
protection given by EU-based companies selling in the UK
and about whether UK consumers could lose out following the
change. We will be pressing Ministers for reassurances on
that during the passage of the Bill. As we did with the
Vehicle Technology and Aviation Bill, the Opposition will
seek further detail from Ministers on the assimilation of
the directive, the impact of Brexit, and Government
accountability as the Bill progresses through this House.
6.27 pm
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(Witney) (Con)
It is an honour to be called to speak in the debate on the
piece of substantive legislation in this Parliament, and to
be the first Back Bencher to do so. The Bill brings back
some traces of memory lane for me; I declare an interest in
that I practised in consumer protection at the independent
Bar before my election to Parliament. Indeed, I was
involved in lecturing and cases in this very area. Somewhat
optimistically, I called it “holiday law”, which makes it
sound—I can hear one of my colleagues saying this—like
rather good fun. Having spent years prosecuting trading
standards legislation and defending criminal law, as well
as working in the personal injury sphere, I must have been
on my way back from holiday while looking for a new area to
branch into, and then an opportunity came up. I obviously
decided that if I could not actually be on holiday, I might
as well at least talk about being on holiday. I therefore
produced a lecture, which I covered with lots of rather
attractive pictures of happy people on holiday, sun-dappled
beaches and palm trees, but that of course rather missed
the point, because when one goes to see a lawyer, one is
telling them not how good a holiday was, but that something
has gone wrong. That is the all-important point that I was
addressing in my career and that the Government are seeking
to address through this Bill.
Things occasionally go terribly wrong when people are on
holiday and, from my experience at the Bar, that can be
anything from simply poor quality through to a catastrophic
failure of holiday, injury or, in some cases, even death.
That is what we are seeking to address through the Bill.
I started my lecture to the Bar with the same story that
the Minister told of the temperance campaigners—it is one
of those throwaway anecdotes we tell at the beginning of
what can sometimes be detailed lectures—and I thought for
one moment that I was about to hear him repeat my lecture
back to me. I am glad that he went on to more substantive
matters.
In my constituency I have not only a great many places that
people come to visit—I will refer to some of them in a
moment—but, of course, many people who, as we all do, look
for places to tour abroad. It is for the constituents of
Witney and west Oxfordshire that I most strongly desire to
see the Bill enacted.
I express my support for the Bill at the outset, because
ATOL protection is a critical part of the protection that
we all rely on when we book a tour. It is only right—and
necessary—that we seek to extend that protection to a
broader range of holidays. When ATOL protection started in
1973, the world was very different from the one that we
inhabit now. It was a world with few airlines—a world of
British Caledonian and nationalised airlines such as
British European Airways and British Overseas Airways
Corporation. One might even say that it was an era before
the benefits of a free market were fully explained and
realised in this country—we should perhaps remember that at
all times in this debate. It was a day before the internet.
It was a day when going abroad was full of uncertainty, and
sometimes even danger. It was into that world that the
package tours regulations came into being, and rightly so.
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Does my hon. Friend agree that at that time it would have
been unimaginable that someone could use a mobile phone to
book a holiday with an operator in Germany, France or
another country in Europe? At that time, walking into a
travel agent on the high street was the only real way of
booking this type of project.
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My hon. Friend makes an outstanding point. We could be
sitting in the Chamber now, if we were not paying attention
to the debate—I am sure every Member is paying attention
with alacrity—and booking ourselves a holiday on our mobile
phone. Such a world was not even envisaged in 1973, but we
did have the advent of the package tour, and British
Airtours, a subsidiary of British Airways, was one of the
leaders. People’s ability to have their package holiday
protected, provided that they had a flight, was a major
innovation, and it is something that we have now lost.
I say that from personal experience because, through my
work, I have first-hand knowledge of how the package
holiday industry now works. Not only do we have what is
called “dynamic packaging”, in which a vast choice of
providers, destinations and activities are available to
members of the public, who can tailor bespoke packages for
themselves, but those selling holidays can seek to step
around some of the relevant legislation. A website might
purport to be operating and offering a package but, when
one actually looks, it turns out that the flight is offered
by a subsidiary, the accommodation is operated and offered
by another company, and other packages—perhaps
excursions—are dealt with by someone else. It is quite easy
in this day and age to step around the regulations that
ATOL provides, which is why the Bill is so necessary. The
travel market has changed significantly in recent years. In
those days, and it was a romantic era—
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Mr
Talk of romance was not what drew me to my feet, although
it might have done. My hon. Friend talks about the changing
character of the industry and the need to ensure that the
regulations are updated. Reflecting on the remarks made by
the hon. Member for Middlesbrough (Andy McDonald), who
speaks for the Opposition, I reaffirm my commitment to
consult further before any regulations are brought before
the House under the affirmative procedure. I draw the
attention of my hon. Friend the Member for Witney (Robert
Courts) to section 71B of the Civil Aviation Act 1982,
which already makes provision for consultation by the CAA
in the light of any such changes.
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I am grateful to the Minister for making that clear. The
prospect of amendment has been ongoing for some time, so I
am delighted that we are addressing it in the House today.
Although the image we all have of walking down the high
street, flicking through a brochure and speaking to
somebody behind a till still happens in many cases—many
people avail themselves of the services that exist,
including at the excellent travel agencies in my
constituency—many people do not do that. It is now so easy
to go on the internet to put together a bespoke package for
ourselves. In a sense, we have become our own travel
agents, but that brings challenges as well as opportunities
for this new generation of travellers. In this House we
embrace the opportunities that come with those challenges.
Indeed, I would go so far as to say that we have seen the
free market in action with the expansion of providers,
destinations and activities. We have seen so many of the
advantages that a free market can bring in the interest of
consumers. Indeed, the online travel market has led to
reduced costs for holidaymakers, as well as increased
choice and flexibility.
Of course, we have to reassess protections at the same time
as we reassess, and benefit from, those changes. The mix
and match of lower prices and wider opportunities has to be
seen alongside the protection. Many holidays now fall
outside the scope of ATOL, which is very different from the
situation in 1973. In 1998, approximately 90% of all
leisure flights were covered by ATOL, but I understand that
the figure has fallen to under 50% in recent years. I
welcomed the Minister’s comment at the start of his speech.
As much as I have praised the free market and its benefits
in terms of opportunities, choice and reduced costs, I also
understand that there is a role for Government. I agree
with him that there it is appropriate for the Government to
step in and ensure that consumers in this field are
protected.
That is why I welcome the measures in the Bill to address
such changes. The Bill will ensure that the ATOL scheme
keeps pace with innovation in the online travel market,
while also ensuring that protections are in place,
regardless of whether someone books online or on the high
street. We will therefore ensure that more than 20 million
holidaymakers each year continue to be protected.
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Given my hon. Friend’s comments, will he say something more
about clause 1, which extends ATOL to sales made by UK
companies within the European economic area? Does he think
that that provision is worth while?
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I am grateful for my hon. Friend’s timely intervention, as
the next page of my notes deals with clause 1. Existing
ATOL legislation applies only when the first leg of a
relevant flight booking departs from a UK airport. The new
legislation introduces a single-market approach to
insolvency, whereby EU-established companies will be
required to comply solely with the insolvency protection
rules of the state in which they are established, as
opposed to the place of sale, which is the current
position. The legislation is therefore much wider, and the
company will only have to be established.
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(Solihull) (Con)
Does my hon. Friend agree with me and several consumer
groups that £2.50 is a low price to pay for ATOL protection
compared with the cost of standard travel insurance? In the
longer term, we might see a decline in the cost of travel
insurance as more holidays are covered by this enhanced
ATOL protection.
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My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. He is right that
the ATOL scheme is funded by a levy of approximately £2.50
per protected passenger and that it would be extremely
unwise of any holidaymaker to go abroad without adequate
travel insurance. I encourage everyone always to have such
insurance, although it can sometimes be pricey, especially
if someone is looking to protect themselves against some of
the more routine failures that are easily covered in the
ATOL scheme. However, more serious misfortunes can occur
when people are on holiday, which is why travel insurance
is, of course, still advisable. As my hon. Friend suggests,
the cost of insurance may come down in time as a result of
this enhanced package.
Clause 1 will allow travel companies established in the UK
that sell flight-inclusive packages to use their ATOL
membership and protection to cover all EU-wide sales
without needing to comply with the insolvency protection
rules of any other member state. Clause 2 deals with
funding and qualifying trusts within the ATOL trust
management structures. The Department for Transport is
alive to the fact that because we have seen significant
changes to the travel industry—not only since 1973, but
since 2004, as well as more recently—it might be necessary
to enter into separate trust arrangements for the greater
business model, such as linked travel arrangements, to give
greater transparency to businesses and consumers. It might
be necessary to introduce a new form of qualifying trust to
ensure that the ATOL trust will still protect consumers in
the all-important area of flight accommodation. The Bill
allows the flexibility under trust arrangements so that we
can increase funding and ensure that ATOL is adequately
funded as time goes on.
Clause 3 addresses a slightly different point: the ability
of the CAA—the House will realise that the authority is
responsible for running the ATOL scheme—to require and
request information from airlines selling ATOL-registrable
products within the UK and more widely. Under the Bill, an
important change would apply to airlines that have an air
service operator’s licence from another EU member state and
therefore would not need any of the licences that have been
granted by the Civil Aviation Act 1982.
The House will be delighted that this is a short Bill,
containing only four clauses. I have needed to deal with
only three, so I do not need to go through the other one—I
am sure everyone is delighted. [Interruption.] The Bill is
short in terms of clauses, as the House will realise.
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My hon. Friend referred to clause 3. Those who have an air
service operator’s licence from other European countries
will not need a CAA licence. Is he satisfied that the
measure will still give full consumer protection?
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I am indeed satisfied that it will give full consumer
protection. I say so because the Government have consulted
widely. Once again, my hon. Friend has somehow, with
extraordinary prescience, managed to prompt me to move on
to the next stage of my speech, which may have been his
subtle intention.
The Government have consulted widely, and the industry’s
response has been favourable. We have received broad
support from a majority of respondents to the proposals to
harmonise ATOL with the scope of the EU package travel
regulations. I noticed that during proceedings on the
Vehicle Technology and Aviation Bill, evidence given by the
group director of consumers and markets at the CAA stated:
“There are a number of important and welcome developments
from”
the Bill
“which will be good for UK consumers. First, the directive
makes it much clearer what the definition of a package
is.”––[Official Report, Vehicle Technology and Aviation
Public Bill Committee, 14 March 2017; c. 63, Q143.]
I hope that the House will forgive my mentioning that in
detail. I do so simply because of my experience of having
argued the concept of what a package is in the courts of
this country throughout my career at the Bar. The Bill has
wide support in the industry.
I wish to make one more point, which is simply to note the
educating effect of tourism. We are of course leaving the
EU, but we are not turning our back on Europe or ceasing to
be a European country—I will not make more detailed
comments. As all Members will appreciate, travelling to a
new country and appreciating a new culture is one of the
most educating and enlightening things an individual can
undertake. We will want people from this country to be able
to expand their horizons throughout the EU, as indeed we
will want people from the EU to be able to come here. West
Oxfordshire has a plethora of tourist attractions, such as
Blenheim palace, the great stately house; Cotswold wildlife
park; and Crocodiles of the World, which is an excellent
attraction that I invite all hon. Members to visit—I have
been. We have many picturesque villages throughout west
Oxfordshire, including Bampton, of “Downton Abbey” fame. I
have gone on at some length. The House will probably
realise by now that this Bill has my full support, and I
urge Members to give it its Second Reading.
6.47 pm
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(North Ayrshire and
Arran) (SNP)
Let me take this opportunity to welcome you to your place,
Madam Deputy Speaker. I want to thank the Minister for his
summary of the Bill’s provisions. The decision to update
the ATOL scheme to provide more protection to travellers
when they go on holiday, and to align it with enhancements
to the EU and UK travel package regulations that predate
people booking their holidays on the internet, is of course
to be welcomed. We need to ensure that the public are
protected by updating the UK’s financial protection scheme
for holidaymakers. It is important to keep pace with the
innovation in the online travel market and ensure that
appropriate protection is in place, regardless of whether
consumers choose to book online or on the high street. Of
course we want to make it easier for UK companies when
selling holidays across Europe, and they will be able to
trade under the UK’s ATOL scheme as opposed to the regimes
in each country they sell to. The measures in this Bill are
important as we need it to cover new digital business
models and modern consumer purchasing models.
We know that more than three quarters of consumers booked
their holidays online last year. The EU package travel
directive of 2015, applicable from 1 January 2018, extends
the protections beyond traditional package holidays
organised by tour operators and also gives clear
protections to 120 million consumers across the EU who book
other forms of combined travel. The directive is expected
to reduce detriment to consumers by about €430 million per
year across the EU, and reduce administrative costs and
burdens on business.
Passenger rights have been enshrined in EU law, and
consumers and businesses deserve to know, need to know and
are keen to know how Brexit will affect them. They seek
cast-iron assurances that the rights and protections of
travellers will not be diminished after the UK leaves the
EU, and I know that the Minister understands that.
Existing EU directives mean that UK passengers are
currently entitled to a number of benefits if a journey is
cancelled or delayed. Such protections give consumers some
peace of mind when they are booking travel. Since the EU
legislated to provide a comprehensive system of air
passenger rights in 2004, the increased awareness of those
rights and the chance to complain or appeal has led to a
significant increase in the number of people doing so. That
is a good thing, because it democratises the market and
gives consumers proper routes of redress—the Minister
mentioned the importance of intervening when the market has
failed.
It should be noted that there are examples of court cases
that have ruled on the circumstances in which airlines must
pay compensation. Appeals against some of those judgments
have demonstrated the reluctance of some airlines to pay
out compensation unless the legal position is made
absolutely clear. The rights of passengers must be clear
and they must be upheld; otherwise, there will be a
detrimental impact on passenger numbers and, ultimately,
jobs will be put at risk.
Brexit clearly poses challenges in respect of passenger
rights. It is essential that the UK develops its own system
of passenger rights and compensation in the aviation
sector, and there must be clarity on how such a system will
affect non-UK airlines and passengers. Will we have such a
system in the UK, post-Brexit? A system will clearly be
required, but we, and non-UK airlines and passengers, need
to know how similar it will be to current arrangements. In
the post-Brexit world, what is to become of all the EU
protections currently in place? Will they continue under
the UK Government? What reassurances can UK passengers be
given? The Minister referred to the “minimal impact” on
consumers and business post-Brexit, but more detail is
obviously needed, and it is keenly awaited.
The collapse of Low Cost Holidays was a stark reminder of
the importance of the EU package travel directive, which
offers consumers protection in case of insolvency. Will the
Minister give due consideration to the points I have raised
and update the House as soon as it is practical to do so?
He spoke of the need to revisit the relevant consumer
protection as technology advances, but the question at the
forefront of everybody’s mind is what will happen
post-Brexit.
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Mr
I welcome you to the Chair, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The hon. Lady invited me to respond as quickly as possible,
so I shall respond now. The reform of ATOL and the package
directive will bring the arrangements throughout Europe
more into line than they have ever been before. It is
imperative that we protect consumers through regulation in
the way I have described, so it is inconceivable that,
post-Brexit, we will not want to reflect the protections
that already exist here and that we see increasingly
abroad.
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I thank the Minister for his response. The clear guarantees
that businesses and consumers are looking for must not be
eroded after Brexit. If we have guarantees and the Minister
can give us further detail on them, passengers and
businesses will be reassured.
Clause 2 will give the Secretary of State power to reform
the ATOL scheme and the Air Travel Trust fund, with only an
affirmative resolution by each House of Parliament
required. Any changes that the Secretary of State wishes to
introduce to the scheme must be preceded by a full
consultation and an impact assessment that allows for
proper scrutiny of the proposals.
Although we absolutely welcome the move to update the ATOL
scheme to ensure that a maximum number of travellers are
protected when they go on holiday and to align it with the
EU travel directive 2015, passenger rights have been
enshrined in EU law and consumers and businesses deserve
clarity on how Brexit will affect them. The UK Government
must provide more flesh on the bones and explain how such
rights will be written into our laws. The updating of the
scheme is to be welcomed, but the post-Brexit world poses a
range of challenges on which consumers and airline business
require clarity. I forward to hearing more detail from the
Secretary of State in due course.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
I call to make her maiden
speech.
6.54 pm
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(Redditch) (Con)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. It is a great pleasure to
follow the hon. Member for North Ayrshire and Arran
(Patricia Gibson).
It is a great privilege to make my maiden speech in this
debate as the representative of Redditch. Improving
consumer rights is a priority for the Government, and the
Bill is needed as a response to the change in how people
book their holidays, as more and more people use the
flexibility of the internet to book their breaks. I know
that the hard-working people in Redditch will welcome the
protections when they book their well-earned summer
holidays.
The Redditch constituency that I am proud to represent has
a proud tradition of returning women MPs to this place. If
there is one woman to whom I owe the greatest debt, it is
my daughter, Ruth, who at the age of 14 said to me, “Mum,
why aren’t there more women MPs? You ought to stand!” I
replied, “I will try to find a few moments in between
running my own business, taking your three brothers to
football and scouts, washing your school uniform and
supervising your homework.” Nine years later, I am honoured
to have been elected by the people of Redditch.
Redditch is a new town, originally built to accommodate
people from a rapidly expanding Birmingham. As another
Brummie newcomer to Redditch, I am following in their
footsteps. Other hon. Members have extolled the virtues of
their wonderful constituencies—the natural wonders up and
down the country—and I only wish I had time to visit them
all. However, most people in our nation live in towns, and
we must remember that people need beauty in their lives,
whether they live in the countryside or in towns. I am
proud that in Redditch any student of town planning would
find the best example in the country of a well laid out,
modern urban landscape. Developments such as Church Hill,
Matchborough, Winyates, Lodge Park and Woodrow have all
been designed to allow maximum amounts of green space,
quiet streets and traffic-free highways.
At the heart of the town is a lovely, natural oasis: the
Arrow valley lake and country park, which comprises 900
acres of green space and is packed with wildlife rarely
seen in an urban setting—although unfortunately no
crocodiles—and also provides a focal point for our
community events. To the west the modern shopping centre
and the historical centre of the town exist harmoniously.
One can understand why so many people wanted to move to
Redditch to live, work and bring up their families.
Along with our excellence in town planning, we are not
without sites of natural beauty. The constituency includes
some beautiful areas of rural Worcestershire, such as the
villages of Feckenham, Inkberrow, Hanbury and the Lenches.
Hanbury church, which I visited this past weekend with the
local ramblers group and my dog, is said to be where the
bells on “The Archers” radio show are rung. I am mindful of
the diverse challenges I face in representing the issues
throughout the whole constituency, including a
brownfield-first policy for new developments, broadband
provision and farming.
Redditch is also a great centre of enterprise and business,
with a wealth of manufacturing companies, although it is
particularly famous for its needles. At one point, Redditch
made 90% of the world’s needles, and needle-making still
occurs there today. In preparing for this speech, I read a
play that Members may have seen, “This House”, in which my
predecessor Hal Miller features. In one scene, he complains
that, despite his envisaging his constituency as one of
“meadows and steeples and farmyards and haystacks”
upon his election he found a somewhat different reality,
angrily declaring to the Whips:
“You can’t find a haystack in Redditch because of all the
needles!”
Redditch has been fortunate to have had a number of
formidable MPs among its previous champions. I pay tribute
to my predecessor, , who sadly retired due
to ill health after seven years of dedicated service. She
was an MP who fought on behalf of her constituents for the
Alexandra hospital, for apprenticeships, for mental health,
and for fairer funding in schools. People will remember her
for that and with great affection for her ability to bring
additional colour to the House, with her varied and unique
choices of hair colour. I promise Members that the next
time they see me I will still have the same hair colour as
I have today—we could not say that about Karen. I would
also like to acknowledge from the
Opposition—the Member for Redditch before Karen—for her
great service to the country as our first female Home
Secretary.
One issue dominated my general election campaign: our local
hospital, the Alexandra hospital, known as the Alex. I want
to reassure my constituents that the Alex and its service
to patients and their families is my No. 1 priority as
their Member of Parliament. I raised that and the issue of
the Worcestershire acute trust that runs the hospital on my
very first day in the Chamber, and I will continue, again
and again and again, to fight to protect and strengthen
local health services.
When I reflect on the challenges facing the Alex I am
reminded of why I strove to enter Parliament for some
years. The Alex hospital, like all our public services,
depends on a strong economy. It relies on the taxes that
ordinary people pay, and we should never forget that or
where those taxes come from: the wages earned by people in
jobs created by their employers—the small business owners
who have created 2.9 million more jobs since 2010. For the
very first time in my life, my wages are paid by the
taxpayer. I do not take that lightly, because I know the
sacrifice needed to create that money. Before I entered
Parliament I spent my career working in teams that started
and grew small businesses in the digital technology sector,
as a small business owner and employer. One of those
businesses started small, but is now medium-sized and is
Britain’s leading publisher of technology content.
Over the years, I have created many jobs for people that
enabled them to fulfil their potential and build a secure
future for themselves and their families. It has not been
easy. I have been through the devastating failures that
many entrepreneurs face, losing my home and livelihood
before picking myself up and starting again. Anyone who
builds a business will recognise that journey. My four
children learned at an early age not to ask their mum for
pocket money. They learned that we could not go on holiday,
that their clothes came from charity shops, that they could
not have new toys, phones or trainers, and that their mum
and dad did not sleep at night because they were worrying
about how to pay the wages of their staff.
Businesses are not some abstract concept. They are built by
people from all walks of life up and down this great nation
of ours: people who differ from one another in many ways,
but who have one thing in common—the desire to work hard,
take a risk and create a better life for their children
than the one that they had. I want everyone in Redditch to
have that opportunity. There are people who feel overlooked
and left behind where deprivation and poverty exist and
where communities struggle with issues of physical and
mental health. I therefore welcome the commitment in the
Gracious Speech to mental health, to investment in our
national health service and to affordable housing. I look
forward to working across the local community in Redditch
to tackle mental health issues proactively and make sure
that there is help on the ground where it is needed. I
shall work with organisations such as the Sandycroft
Centre, which offers a wide range of services to support
vulnerable families as well as many other people in the
town.
Our Prime Minister said in the House that not every problem
in society could be solved by an Act of Parliament. I
agree, because many problems are solved by the diligence,
commitment and sacrifice of ordinary citizens such as the
people behind the 275 new businesses that have started in
Redditch since 2010. It is our job in Parliament to provide
a solid economic foundation so that those people can do
what they do best: building businesses; creating jobs;
changing our country. I am grateful for the opportunity to
make my maiden speech in this debate. I look forward
greatly to supporting the Second Reading of the Bill and
other important pieces of legislation in the coming months.
I will never forget the privilege of speaking up in this
House for the wonderful people of Redditch.
7.05 pm
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Mr (Luton South)
(Lab/Co-op)
I am extremely grateful, Madam Deputy Speaker, for the
opportunity to speak in this debate. May I begin by
commending the new hon. Member for Redditch (Rachel
Maclean) on an erudite and passionate speech about the
place that she represents? I am certain that if she finds a
way to bring that passion to every issue that we debate in
the House, while keeping in mind the constituents about
whom she clearly cares a great deal, she will make an
impressive impact on this Parliament. I noted the news
about her predecessor, . I have known Karen
since she came to Parliament at the same time as me, and I
am certain that the whole House sends her its best wishes.
If the hon. Lady carries on in the vein of her immediate
predecessor and her predecessor before that, , she will achieve
great success in the House.
I served in the last Parliament as a member of the Women
and Equalities Committee—a fantastic institution that we
are rightly going to put on a statutory basis from
tomorrow. The hon. Lady may wish to turn her attention to
our most recent report, “Women in House of Commons after
the 2020 election”. I hope that it is not entirely
redundant, given the actions in 2017.
If it is in order, Madam Deputy Speaker—and I look forward
to your guidance—may I welcome you to your position in the
Chair? Opposition Members have benefited greatly from your
wisdom, friendly arm around the shoulder and occasional
quite straightforward direction in your previous role as
Chief Whip. I note from those discussions that your leather
whip has not made it to the Chamber, as it did to the Whips
Office. I shall check the Chair to see if a new place has
been installed to store it, but I wish you every success,
Madam Deputy Speaker, in your new role.
We are here to debate the measures introduced by the
Minister. The changes are welcome. Given the various models
for selling flights and package holidays, the divergence
created by the internet and innovations in the market, it
is right that we seek to comply with those changes and
bring about better consumer protections. The irony that we
have debated this in the previous Parliament is not
something on which I seek to reflect at length. However, as
a Member of Parliament who represents two FTSE 100
companies with direct links to the travel and tourism
industry, easyJet and TUI in my constituency, where I also
represent Luton airport, there is a great irony at the
heart of the Bill, which could be misunderstood as a piece
of legislation that is linked to our future relationships
under Brexit and is about giving Ministers greater
flexibility to handle that. That is one aspect, but the
genesis of the Bill is as a piece of legislation that seeks
to comply with EU directives, including the package travel
directive, which seeks to standardise and give greater
consumer protection to the 500 million or so people in the
single market. Compliance with that is a welcome measure,
and it is right that we should make parliamentary time
available for it.
The measure must be complied with by 1 January 2018, and it
will apply by 1 July 2018. However, the key date that is
not discussed in the Chamber and which is the most
important is 31 March 2019, only 15 months later, as that
is the day on which we will leave the European Union.
Despite the best intentions of the Minister, the Department
and the Government, they cannot yet tell us the framework
for the measure after that date, so everything we debate
today is essentially on a temporary footing.
I raised my concerns directly in the last Parliament, as I
was fortunate enough to be granted the Adjournment debate
that first put on record in Hansard the concerns of the
whole industry in the past year about aviation and leaving
the European Union. We need a comprehensive air services
agreement that not only allows for consumer protections,
but which is the most basic starting point for the industry
in the first place, allowing us to take off in one place
and land in another, not just in the European Union. Even
our relationship with the United States is governed through
the European Union. This is a significant piece of work.
Britain is leaving the EU and it is incumbent on the
Government to bring forward a Brexit deal for approval by
this House. But, however people voted, they did not vote to
weaken consumer protections, to add cost and complexity to
UK operators or to find themselves in a situation where
they cannot get the flights that they wish for. The
directive being enacted today has significant advantages
for UK aviation and consumers, and I very much hope that we
will take that spirit forward by seeking a comprehensive
air services agreement that includes the measures in the
package travel directive. Our membership of the European
Union has had other advantages that I hope we will
replicate as closely as possible and enact. For example,
the most recent changes to the ability to roam with a
mobile phone will make a significant difference to many
travellers over the summer.
The alternative is that laid out for airlines and travel
agents inside the single market, whereby businesses outside
the EU will be required to comply with the different rules
of each member state to which they sell. That is opposed to
the situation issued by this directive and the Bill,
whereby each member state recognises the jurisdiction of
the others. That reduces risk, complexity and cost. Will
the Minister lay out the Government’s intentions regarding
the measures being enacted today? It would be a great
disservice to UK operators if they were bound by the
different regimes across 27 member states having spent only
15 months covered by the protections given by the
provisions in the Bill.
In answer to the hon. Member for North Ayrshire and Arran
(Patricia Gibson), the Minister said that it was
inconceivable that we would not want to uphold these
consumer guarantees. But, with respect, the reciprocal is
not within our gift and, therefore, any negotiations must
seek to include this newly enacted settlement.
One further issue raised in the meat of the Bill is that of
consumer protection. Will we transpose and adopt the
promises of EU regulation 261, which provides compensation
when flights are significantly delayed or cancelled? I
would appreciate it if the Minister could say a word about
that. On the comprehensive air services agreement, does he
agree that the most important thing is to try to change as
little as possible, given that UK airlines are planning and
blocking flights that will take off—or not take off,
dependent on the deal—to other EU member states after 31
March 2019? We should seek to get as much stability in the
industry as quickly as possible.
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(Wythenshawe and Sale East)
(Lab)
My hon. Friend is making an extraordinarily powerful point
about the importance of aviation to our economy. Manchester
airport is in my constituency. Does he agree that aviation
is unique because it does not have World Trade Organisation
rules to fall back on, and that it is imperative that the
Government secure a deal quickly?
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Mr Shuker
My hon. Friend pre-empts my point; we are working from the
same page. As aviation is not covered by WTO rules, it
would be quite conventional to have a separate stand-alone
air services agreement with the European Union. It is my
view that we should try to bring that about now before the
meat of the major deal to come, not least because aviation
is governed in a different way, but also because
establishing those links is generally viewed as the
prerequisite to any future trade deal.
In conclusion, the Bill is welcome and brings forward
provisions that we all want for consumers and our
constituents, but more must be said and done on the issue
during this Parliament. The Minister will be acutely aware
that he will be judged not on the passage of the Bill, but
on the content of any future deal that covers these issues.
7.14 pm
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(Chelmsford) (Con)
It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Luton
South (Mr Shuker), who cares passionately about Luton
airport in his constituency, and to follow my hon. Friend
the Member for Redditch (Rachel Maclean), who has just
given an outstanding maiden speech. I thank her so much.
In a modern and outward-looking Britain, it is significant
that the first piece of legislation in this new Parliament
is a Bill making it easier for consumers—our constituents
to travel overseas and for people from other countries to
travel to Britain. It is also significant that this first
Bill is about consumer protection, because this Government
believe that we should put people first.
The ATOL system offers protection to holidaymakers if their
tour operator goes bust. The UK is proud of having had the
system in place since the 1970s. It is robust consumer
protection that gives confidence to people booking their
holidays and, therefore, contributes to our vibrant travel
markets. The system supports the economy—not only the
destinations to which people go, but also our local tourist
industry. I am particularly thinking about the 800
residents of Chelmsford who work at Stansted airport. It is
important for their jobs that we continue to have a vibrant
holiday market.
Although holidays are always meant to be the happiest time
of year, that happiness so quickly turns into a nightmare
if there is a problem with a tour operator. Last summer,
27,000 British travellers found themselves overseas when
the company, Lowcostholidays, collapsed. Another 110,000
British consumers had booked their holidays through that
operator and did not know what the future would hold.
Lowcostholidays had, of course, moved its location from
Britain to Spain, so it was no longer ATOL-protected. That
reminds us exactly how important it is to look at the
consumer protection we offer people buying from
British-based companies and that we offer British consumers
who buy from companies based in other countries. That is
why the EU countries agreed new changes to the package
travel directive in 2015, requiring all European countries
to have ATOL-type protection. The bit of law we are
discussing today will implement that decision.
In the European Parliament, the committee that looks at
such issues is the Committee on the Internal Market and
Consumer Protection because consumers are at the heart of
the market. As the person who chaired that committee, I
chaired the negotiations on the package travel directive.
It is important that we ensure that the measure is
implemented equally across all of Europe, otherwise we
could find that some countries bring in a different system.
There is an important difference in that ATOL membership
will now be based on whether or not a company is based in
Britain, as opposed to whether it just sells into Britain.
As colleagues have said, another important part of the
legislation was updating the guarantee system so that it is
fit for purpose in a digital age. If someone buys their
flight from the wonderful Stansted airport, they will
probably click on the airline operator. They will then
click through from the airline operator to buy their hotel
and then on again to buy their car rental. That might feel
like buying a package to some of us, but it was not covered
under the old rules in the package travel directive. I
welcome the Minister’s work on modernising the measures,
which will ensure that those click-throughs are now covered
by the ATOL protection.
However, we had many other discussions in those detailed
negotiations. For example, should business travellers get
the same protection as consumer travellers? That is where
we have tended to have a bit of a difference between
Conservative Members and Labour Members. My excellent hon.
Friend the Member for Redditch has just explained the
challenges for small businesses, and an extra cost burden
may be unaffordable for them, so we were concerned that
they should not automatically have to pay the extra cost of
ATOL protection. That is the sort of discussion I hope we
will now be able to look at in more detail.
There were also discussions about whether the package
should cover add-ons. For example, if someone gets to their
holiday destination and decides to buy excursions, or if
they bought them before they went, should those be included
in the package? We had a lot of representations from small
businesses saying, “No, please don’t put these in the
package, because it will add bureaucracy and reduce
consumer choice.” While I am absolutely passionate about
the need to provide consumer protection, we also need to
take a step back from time to time and to be on the side of
consumer choice and of not adding additional, unnecessary
costs for businesses.
In a post-Brexit Britain, our consumers will still want to
purchase goods and services from those in other countries,
and it will be important to continue to engage with other
countries—especially our nearest neighbours in Europe—on
issues such as consumer protection. It is important in the
Brexit negotiations that we focus on getting a deal that
works for consumers as well as businesses, because a vast
range of consumer rights are embedded in EU law, on issues
to do with not only holidaymakers but misleading
advertising, unfair contract terms and the right to seek
redress. Crucially, there is also really important
legislation about the safety and standards of food. It
appears that the tragic fire at Grenville Tower may have
started because of an electrical fault in a domestic
appliance, which is a brutal reminder of how important it
is that we maintain high standards for consumer products.
Today’s consumers are changing, and they embrace
innovation. Markets are also constantly evolving, and we
are constantly getting new products. Of course, we also
have the digital revolution. We therefore need to be
constantly working on making sure that our consumer
protection, consumer laws and consumer standards are fit
for purpose.
The excellent consumer organisation Which? has sent us all
a briefing on what it would like from the Brexit
negotiations, and it makes a strong case that the UK should
continue to work with our European neighbours on consumer
standards, on measures to counter fraud and on developing
and sharing best practice. In particular, it recommends
that we should at an early stage reach agreement on
continued co-operation with such agencies as the European
Medicines Agency, the European Food Safety Authority, the
European Chemicals Agency and the European Aviation Safety
Authority. We should listen very carefully to what our
consumer organisations are saying.
As the hon. Member for Luton South mentioned, there are
other issues that affect holidaymakers, such as the need to
negotiate landing rights. There is also an issue about
making sure that any deals about how we use our mobile
phones overseas are covered. The UK was a great champion of
removing expensive mobile phone roaming charges, which put
such a huge burden on consumers. However, other issues,
such as the motor insurance directive, have not been
perfect for the UK; indeed, that directive is causing great
uncertainty in the motorsports industry in the UK, and we
will need to continue to engage on that.
When the Prime Minister talked about our offer on EU
citizens, I was pleased to hear her offer to keep the
European health insurance card, which makes it easier for
people to get medical care when they travel across Europe.
That is a very generous offer from the UK to the rest of
Europe, and we should welcome it.
To wrap up, maintaining consumer confidence is key to a
modern, dynamic economy. As we seek to leave the EU and to
create a new, deep economic partnership with those across
the channel, it is important that we continue to stand on
the side of consumers and that we find new ways to
co-operate with our neighbours and those across the world
who seek to make sure that consumers are fairly protected.
7.25 pm
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(Crewe and Nantwich)
(Lab)
May I offer you my congratulations on your new role, Madam
Deputy Speaker?
First, I would like to acknowledge my immediate
predecessor, , who served the
previous Government as Minister of State responsible for
children and families. Edward was known for his desire to
improve the care system for vulnerable children.
I would also like to pay tribute to the late MP Mrs
, who was, and
is to this day, regarded as one of the greatest
parliamentarians to have sat in this House. I intend to
serve the diverse communities in my constituency with the
same unwavering tenacity as Gwyneth did during her 25
years’ service.
It is a source of great pride to have been elected to
represent the constituency where I was born and raised, and
where I continue to live with my family today. As the
granddaughter of a Scottish miner, I was brought up on a
diet of working-class values. During my childhood, our
family had real times of struggle, but that tough
resilience and determination engrained in my roots has
always driven us forward. I know what it is like to grow up
living with loved ones who are plagued by mental illness,
and I know what it is like to be a single mother with a
modest income, struggling to make ends meet. I can promise
today that I will never, ever forget where I have come
from.
As a teacher and a parent, my love for education will not
come as a surprise. Before my journey into politics, I was
known for leading the fairer funding campaign in Crewe and
Nantwich, which I am still committed to. I stand here today
for the children in my constituency, and I will continue to
prioritise their education and my children’s education—the
future of this country’s education—for as long as I am in
the House.
Nantwich is a picturesque market town, home to the world’s
biggest cheese awards, and we will, in fact, be celebrating
the best of cheese later this month. We are also proud of
our annual jazz and blues festival, which attracts more
than 40,000 revellers to the town.
Needing little introduction, Crewe is synonymous with
railways. At its height, Crewe Works employed 20,000
workers, but that has now fallen to fewer than 1,000. Crewe
deserves investment, and I welcome the commitment in the
Queen’s Speech to bring forward legislation to deliver the
next phase of High Speed 2, as this will undoubtedly
benefit Crewe.
The surrounding areas of Crewe and Nantwich are scattered
with villages steeped in local tradition, and it is
important that the people of Shavington, Willaston,
Wistaston, Wybunbury and Haslington know that I will work
hard to support their communities. These places are all
united by the hard-working, community-spirited,
salt-of-the-earth, proud northern folk who live and work in
them. It is the nature of my hard-working constituency that
I want to focus on in this, my first speech. I want to pay
tribute to the British workforce. Every single one of
Britain’s 31 million workers ought to be recognised and
celebrated as the real wealth creators in this country.
Without them, this country would grind to a halt.
Unemployment levels in Crewe and Nantwich are lower than
average for the north-west, and lower than the UK average.
Yet, food banks in my constituency provided more than
50,000 meals last year, and almost 4,000 children are
living in poverty. These are not mere statistics for me to
be concerned about; each and every one is nothing less than
a travesty. This reflects the changing nature of poverty in
the UK. There are now more people in working poverty than
in out-of-work poverty. It would seem that in 21st-century
Britain work simply does not pay in many cases.
I have just a few more facts for you. More than one in five
workers earn less than the living wage, and more than half
of working households have seen no improvement in their
disposable income in more than a decade. Under-25s are not
even entitled to the Government’s national living wage,
which is in itself inadequate and falls short of a real
living wage. Full-time working lone parents are often the
worst affected. Having been a single mother myself, I know
how tough and isolating it can be. Forty-seven years after
the Equal Pay Act, the gender pay gap still stands at
wholly unacceptable levels. This inequality follows women
into their retirement as lower pay translates into lower
occupational pensions. Instead of addressing this, the
previous Chancellor prioritised changes to the state
pension that have shattered the retirement plans of women
born in the 1950s, with devastating consequences. I stand
with the WASPI women fighting against this injustice. We
should also celebrate the fact that there are now a record
number of female MPs in Parliament by acting finally to
eradicate gender inequality in the workplace.
We have a duty to address all forms of poverty as a
priority, but the fact that we have in-work poverty in the
fifth richest country in the world is shameful, and it is a
sad indictment of our economic policy. Work should be an
escape route from poverty. It is wrong to claim that we are
“all in this together”. CEOs can earn in two and a half
days what it takes the average worker an entire year to
earn. I also cannot help but wonder whether action on
poverty pay might be addressed more urgently if we in this
House had to do our jobs on a worker’s wage. Is it any
wonder that so many people are infuriated by the hypocrisy
of MPs receiving inflation-busting pay rises themselves
while voting to cap the pay of dedicated professionals who
work in our public services? If this Government want to
show the UK workforce that they value them, they can—they
can start by giving them the pay rise and financial
security that they deserve. Actions speak louder than
words, and I will continue to hold the Government to
account on this issue. In the words of Nelson Mandela,
“As long as poverty, injustice and gross inequality persist
in our world, none of us can truly rest.”
Fellow Members, I have no intention of resting.
7.32 pm
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(East Renfrewshire)
(Con)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for giving me the
opportunity to speak in this debate. It is a pleasure to
follow the hon. Member for Crewe and Nantwich (Laura Smith)
in her powerful maiden speech.
With a three-year-old and a one-year-old at home, the
thought of enduring a plane ride to sunnier climes on a
family trip is somewhat terrifying, so I suspect it may be
a little while before I will be in a position to benefit
from the additional protections this Bill looks to bring
into force. Nevertheless, I welcome its Second Reading.
It is an honour and a privilege to be standing here as the
Member for East Renfrewshire, but I must confess that I
committed the ultimate sin as a successful candidate at the
count: I forgot to thank my wife, who was standing a mere
six feet away. So if I could indulge myself for a moment, I
would like to put on record for ever more my thanks and
love to my wife, Heather, and our two children, Daisy and
Charlie.
I would also like to start by paying tribute to my
predecessor, . Kirsten was a
diligent and conscientious MP who did superb work as her
party’s spokesperson for veterans. She achieved a great
deal in her short time in this place with much patience and
charm, and I wish her and her beautiful family well for the
future.
I would like to give special mention to the last
Conservative Member for the seat, Allan Stewart, who sadly
passed away in December. I know how much it would have
meant to Allan to have seen East Ren turn blue again, and
he and his wife Susie were in all our thoughts on election
night.
Madam Deputy Speaker, despite what other new Members may
have led you to believe, it is of course East Renfrewshire
that is the most beautiful constituency in the land. It is
a beauty found not only in its famous green spaces but in
its people. East Renfrewshire is home to Scotland’s largest
Jewish community. It has a significant Muslim community, a
growing Sikh community, and a strong Christian community.
It is home to people of all faiths and none—but the key
thing is that none of that matters. The constituency is a
fine example of everything a modern, open, multicultural
and tolerant Britain should be. Testament to that rich
diversity and community cohesion is the fact that the
constituency will soon be home to the world’s first-ever
joint Catholic-Jewish school in Newton Mearns.
Throughout East Renfrewshire flows an entrepreneurial
spirit. From Stamperland to Eaglesham, Busby to Clarkston,
home businesses are thriving. Family businesses like
Valentini’s ice cream parlour in Giffnock and McLaren’s
plant nurseries in Uplawmoor sit at the heart of their
local communities. From small enterprises like Optimal
Physio in Newton Mearns, or the Enchanted Forest children’s
nursery in Thornliebank, through to household names
like—appropriately for this debate—Barrhead Travel and Linn
Products, ambition, aspiration, innovation and a desire to
build a better future for those who follow are proud values
that underpin the people I am privileged to represent.
Today’s entrepreneurs are following in a grand local
tradition. In 1868, John Shanks opened a foundry in
Barrhead to make brassware. In the decades that followed,
he developed the bath and lavatory fittings for which his
name is famous. Barrhead’s history stretches back much
further, however, with the Arthurlie Cross, a stone
sculpture dating back to the 9th century, rumoured to mark
the grave of Arthur, King of Britons. Nearby Neilston was
famed for its cotton, the industrial revolution of the
1800s seeing textile mills dominate the area, powered by
the stunning Levern Water. The thread spun at Crofthead
mill reached the summit of Everest, being used in the boots
of the climbers on the famous British expedition in 1975.
Thornliebank printworks, established by the Crum family in
1778, was one of the first smoke-free factories in the
world. It has since been replaced by a business park,
including a unit inhabited by two Members of the Scottish
Parliament, and now myself—so I suspect there is far more
hot air emanating from the site now than there was 250
years ago.
East Renfrewshire’s natural history is equally prevalent.
The outskirts of the constituency provide a stunning
landscape punctuated with lochs, hills, moors, woodlands
and dams, and the community are rightly protective of it.
It is little wonder that the constituency boasts the UK
Park of the Year in Rouken Glen, and, according to the
Royal Mail, the most desirable location to live in the UK,
with three other spots in the top 10.
East Renfrewshire’s more recent history brings me back to
this place via two Prime Ministers. was born in a
maternity home in Giffnock, now the site of the Orchard
Park hotel; and the former Member for the constituency, the
redoubtable Betty Harvie Anderson—the first lady to sit in
the Speaker’s chair as Deputy Speaker—shared her first
parliamentary office following her election in 1959 with
none other than the then new Member for Finchley, Margaret
Thatcher. So for those new Members who believe that history
repeats itself, I am open to offers.
While the results of this election may not have been what
those on these Benches hoped in their entirety, north of
the border the picture was a little brighter. Much like
indyref2, the panda jokes are dead, and I am proud to stand
alongside 11 fellow Scottish Conservative faces. Together,
we will continue to fight against the destructive politics
of socialism and the divisive politics of nationalism. But
we shall do so with an outstretched hand, not a clenched
fist, because when the UK Government and the Scottish
Government do come together in common cause, that
partnership is capable of truly transformational change.
East Renfrewshire will receive around £44 million of
investment through the Glasgow region city deal for
projects as diverse as a business incubation hub in Newton
Mearns to a wakeboarding centre at the Dams to Darnley
country park. I am not sure, Madam Deputy Speaker, if
wakeboarding is high on your agenda, but I will extend an
invite none the less.
The people of East Ren are renowned for their love of
democracy—turnout is always among the highest in the UK—but
after seven trips to the polls in just over three years my
constituents need stability and for their politicians to
get on and do the jobs they were elected to do. It is the
Scottish Government’s inability to do just that which is
one of the reasons I am here today. For my part, I will
first and foremost dedicate myself to improving the lives
of my constituents and assisting them when life deals them
a difficult hand or they just need someone to listen. East
Renfrewshire’s leafy reputation hides real pockets of
severe deprivation and daily struggle, with people who feel
left behind and forgotten. It is those people who look to
this place and to each of us to demonstrate the good that
Government can do, and we must not let them down.
The Conservative party must remember what it is for:
extending the ladder of social mobility while providing a
robust safety net for those who make the climb. This
Government must remember that just as we on these Benches
believe that anyone from any background can reach as far
and high as their talents and efforts will take them, so
too must we acknowledge anyone can fall on hard times. One
of the giants of Scottish Conservatism, Teddy Taylor,
coined the phrase “tenement Tories”. It meant something
very simple—that Conservatism must offer an aspirational
vision to all. I am here to represent the people who, as he
put it, “don’t all live in big hooses”.
The 2015 general election was the point at which the
Scottish National party was at its peak—dominant and
arrogant. It claimed ownership of my flag and of my voice,
but it did not speak for me and it did not own Scotland.
And so, the day after that election, I joined the Scottish
Conservative and Unionist party. In doing so I made a
promise to myself that I would do everything in my power to
ensure that my children grew up in a Scotland where their
opportunities are unconstrained and their ambition never
frowned upon; where their talents and potential would not
go unfulfilled; where they are never made to feel ashamed
of who they are or how they vote; and, yes, where they
remain part of our wonderful United Kingdom. Standing here
today may be only the first step towards me keeping that
promise to myself, to my children and to families and
individuals right across East Renfrewshire and Scotland,
but let me assure this House that it is a promise I have
absolutely no intention of breaking.
7.40 pm
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(Kilmarnock and Loudoun)
(SNP)
I welcome you to the Chair, Madam Deputy Speaker. It is a
pleasure to follow the hon. Member for East Renfrewshire
(Paul Masterton). It has been great to hear his and other
maiden speeches, which have brought back diversity to what
would otherwise have been a one-sided debate. I gently
point out to him, however, that the irony of a Conservative
Member mentioning divisive nationalism is not lost on us.
On the question of the Government getting on with the day
job, we are debating this Bill because they actually did
not get on with their day job, and chose instead to call an
early general election that was not needed.
As a Back Bencher, I find it frustrating when the Chair has
to apply a time limit to cut speeches short, leading to
frantic scoring out. I think that time limits would
actually have been useful for some of tonight’s speakers,
because some hon. Members have managed to speak at amazing
length about a Bill that is only four clauses long. I will
try to be a bit briefer.
This is a small but welcome Bill, although it is perhaps
indicative of the Government’s lack of strength and
ambition, given that its measures were originally part of
the wider Vehicle Technology and Aviation Bill. Even so,
this four-clause Bill was heralded in the Queen’s Speech
which, as we all know, lacked ambition.
The air travel organisers’ licensing scheme is well known
and has provided comfort to thousands of holidaymakers over
the years. It has rescued people financially and literally
got them home in a timely fashion. It is a fantastic
scheme. As other hon. Members have said, holiday travel and
booking arrangements have changed over the years, so it is
only appropriate that protections change too.
The Minister was keen to say that the UK has led the way in
Europe with ATOL. I do not dispute that, but over the years
the European Union has also strengthened passenger rights,
and it is imperative that those rights are not weakened
post-Brexit. The UK Government need to provide assurances
that the rights and protections of travellers will not be
diminished after the UK leaves the EU.
In fact, it is the 2015 EU package travel directive, which
will be applicable from 1 January 2018, that is the driver
for this Bill. The fact that three quarters of those who
booked holidays last year did so online highlights the need
for further protections. It is to be welcomed that
protections will now extend beyond traditional package
holidays. The new directive applies to three sorts of
travel combinations: pre-arranged packages; customised
packages; and linked travel arrangements.
I also welcome the fact that clear protection will be
provided to 120 million consumers across the EU who book
other forms of combined travel. A further advantage is that
the measure is expected to reduce detriment to consumers
across the EU by about €430 million a year, while at the
same time reducing the administrative burden on businesses.
It is suggested that compliance costs for traders will
reduce from €11 to €8 per package.
Yet again, we have to be grateful to the EU for taking on
big businesses, including the airlines, and extending
consumer rights to meet modern travel needs. Since the EU
legislated to provide a comprehensive system of air
passenger rights in 2004, increased awareness of those
rights, and of the ability to complain and appeal, has led
to a significant increase in the number of people doing so.
That has been supplemented by a number of court cases that
have ruled on the circumstances in which airlines must pay
compensation. Appeals against some of those judgments have
meant that some airlines have been reluctant to pay
compensation until the legal position is absolutely clear.
There is therefore still industry resistance to the current
compensation schemes. I repeat that it is absolutely vital
that the UK does not weaken any legislation in the future.
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(Glasgow North)
(SNP)
I welcome you to the Chair, Madam Deputy Speaker, and
congratulate the hon. Member for East Renfrewshire (Paul
Masterton) on a fluent maiden speech. I am sure it will not
be the last such speech he gives in this House.
Does my hon. Friend agree that this Bill demonstrates why
we need Government assurances about the impact of Brexit?
There are so many uncertainties about so many aspects of
consumer protection and its impact on individuals’ daily
lives. If we had had such assurances and clarity this time
last year, perhaps we would not be in this situation.
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I completely agree with my hon. Friend. There seems to be
great reticence on the part of the UK to come out and give
the necessary cast-iron guarantees. We are a year down the
line since the vote, but we have not moved forward in many
regards. Too often we keep hearing how everything will be
okay, but we need to start seeing some flesh on the bones.
We still do not know when the UK will develop its own
system of passenger rights and compensation in the aviation
sector post-Brexit, how similar that will be to the current
arrangements and, importantly, how non-UK airlines and
passengers will be affected. That brings me back to the
point that we need a clear guarantee from the UK
Government.
On a slightly different theme, Scotland has a large number
of regional airports, many of which are completely reliant
on low-cost airlines and outbound tourism to survive and be
an economic success. Recent reports have stated that
Prestwick airport in my neighbouring constituency is
vulnerable to Brexit, given the number of low-cost airlines
there and the type of passenger traffic, which is mainly
outbound. Despite the fact that the Scottish Government
have voted to reduce air passenger duty by 50%, which they
hoped to use as a mechanism to grow the number of routes
operating out of Prestwick, Ryanair has confirmed that,
because of the uncertainty surrounding Brexit and the open
skies agreement, it will not expand further at the airport.
That is a cause for concern with regard to local jobs in my
area.
The International Air Transport Association predicts that
just a 12% reduction in sterling would result in a 5%
decline in outbound travel from airports. Since the EU
referendum, sterling is down 25%, so it has become even
more vital for Prestwick airport that we continue within
the open skies agreement and maintain outbound passenger
numbers. It is incumbent on the UK Government to give an
unequivocal guarantee that the UK will stay in the single
aviation market after we are taken out of the EU.
Remaining in the open skies agreement—the single aviation
market—is vital to ensuring that our airports remain
economically viable, and low-cost airlines are vital for
regional airports to be a commercial success. EasyJet is
setting up a separate operation outwith the UK to ensure it
can continue to fly without restrictions after the UK
leaves the EU, which is in no small part due to the lack of
clarity over the aviation agreement that the UK will
eventually come up with.
It is clear that, despite the mantra that everything will
be okay when we leave the EU, or even better than the
current arrangements, the risks are materialising in front
of us. It is clearly worrying if airlines are finding other
EU member states a more attractive proposition, and the UK
Government need to think seriously about how they are going
to counteract that problem for our regional airports. The
UK Government really must provide clarity and certainty
sooner rather than later.
Clause 2 gives the Transport Secretary the power to reform
ATOL and the air travel trust fund using only the
affirmative procedure in each House of Parliament. The UK
Government need to provide assurances that any changes that
the Secretary of State makes to the ATOL scheme through
secondary legislation will be preceded by a proper
consultation of members of the industry and consumer
groups, and by an appropriate impact assessment.
We welcome the Bill but, as I said in an intervention on
the Minister, we are concerned about the status of
legislation on laser pens and, as the shadow Transport
Secretary said, drones. It is imperative that the
Government move quickly to provide reassurances on those
matters.
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Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)
I call .
7.49 pm
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(St Austell and Newquay)
(Con)
It is a pleasure to be called to speak in this debate by
you, Madam Deputy Speaker, in your first session in the
Chair. I congratulate you on your new role. It is also a
pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Kilmarnock and
Loudoun (Alan Brown). I also congratulate the hon. Members
who have made their maiden speeches today—we have heard
some excellent ones.
One of Cornwall’s earliest tourists was the spirited and
adventurous Mary Kelynack, a Cornish fishwife who in 1851
travelled to London to visit the Great Exhibition. That
took her longer than some say it should have done, but then
again she did walk the 600 miles there and back, and she
was 84 years old. At the time, Cornish travellers did not
have many other options. Some will try to give the
impression that little has changed when it comes to
travelling out of Cornwall today, but that would give the
wrong impression because, thanks to the support of this
Government, Cornwall is enjoying record investment in our
transport infrastructure.
If Mary had made her journey today, she would have had
several options. She could have travelled by road, in which
case she would have seen the soon to be completed upgrade
of the A30, with the dualling at Temple that will be opened
in just two weeks’ time. My hon. Friend the Member for
Hereford and South Herefordshire (Jesse Norman), the roads
Minister, is in the Chamber, and I acknowledge and welcome
the Government’s announcement today of their support for
the next phase of the upgrade of the vital A30, the main
road through Cornwall.
Mary could have travelled on one of the new Great Western
Railway’s bullet-style Hitachi trains, the first of which
we saw in Cornwall just over a week ago—a £146 million
investment in our railways which will be fully rolled out
next year. Or she could have taken one of the three
aeroplanes a day from Newquay to London.
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(Kingston upon Hull East)
(Lab)
Riveting though the hon. Gentleman’s speech is, it has
nothing to do with the Bill. Many hon. Members want to
speak, so perhaps he could get to the relevant aspects of
the Bill.
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I am not sure I thank the hon. Gentleman for that
intervention, but I am about to come to the very point.
Newquay airport is booming. Passenger numbers are
increasing year on year, and by some measures Newquay is
now regarded as the fastest growing regional airport in the
country. Only recently The Independent declared Newquay the
best regional airport in the country. It has regular
flights to UK destinations and an increasing number of
holiday destinations in Portugal and Spain. That is why I
welcome the Bill.
The way in which tourists book their holidays is changing,
with fewer and fewer booking the traditional package
holiday by popping down to the offices of the travel agent
in the town centre. In 2016, 76% of the UK’s 20 million
holidaymakers booked their holidays or travel online—a
staggering increase even compared with recent years. There
was a partial reform of the regulations in 2012, but I am
pleased that the Department of Transport firmly believes
that more should be done to protect consumers. Holiday
providers, market options and ever more varied
flexi-packages change, and with that comes the confusion of
not knowing whether ATOL cover applies, depending on where
the holiday or travel provider is based and what terms and
conditions apply in the event of business failure. The Bill
seeks to rectify that.
The Government has said that they will
“harmonise ATOL with the scope and definitions of the EU
Package Travel Directive. It was widely agreed that this
will bring greater clarity and protection for consumers and
help to level the playing field for businesses selling
similar holidays.”
I welcome this key development and note that the Bill also
seeks to build in future-proofing so that as the packages
on offer—and where and how they are sold—change, they will
come under the new legislation.
The travel industry has seen enormous change in just a few
years, and the Bill seeks to reflect that so that
travellers and the industry are served more effectively.
Many if not all of the changes in the travel industry have
been to the benefit of consumers, including greater
competition, more choice and greater flexibility. It is
important that the legislation keeps pace with those
changes. It is essential that flexi-packages of all types
are covered by ATOL protection and that travellers are
clear and confident at the time of purchase, which might be
many months prior to a departure date, that the cover is in
place. The Bill serves to ensure that very purpose.
Future-proofing the legislation around ATOL protection is a
necessary move that is broadly welcomed by all parties
throughout the industry, but I want to push the Minister a
little on that point. I am sure he would be disappointed if
I did not take this opportunity to mention the potential
spaceport at Cornwall Newquay airport. I was delighted to
see that the legislation to enable that was included in the
Gracious Speech. While it will initially be focused on
commercial satellite launches, there is also no doubt of
the future potential for space tourism. I know that some
will scoff, but do not underestimate the Cornish.
Trevithick was a pioneer of steam that revolutionised the
world and transformed mine safety. The
Cornish have it in their psyche, in their history and in
their blood to be pioneers. Surely the day will come when
Newquay welcomes its first space travellers. With Cornish
inventiveness in our being, “Beam me up, Denzil” is surely
only just round the corner. I therefore ask the
Minister—with tongue only slightly in cheek—whether the
ATOL protection in the Bill can be extended to space
tourism when the time comes.
I welcome the additional protection that the Bill will
offer to Cornish travellers and believe that it will only
enhance the opportunities for smaller regional airports
such as Newquay to continue to grow and expand their
tourist flights.
7.57 pm
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(Plymouth, Sutton and
Devonport) (Lab/Co-op)
It is a privilege to follow my comrade from Cornwall, the
hon. Member for St Austell and Newquay (Steve Double).
I am in an odd position in this debate as I have worked for
the Association of British Travel Agents and Thomas Cook,
and I now sit on the other side of the fence examining the
ATOL regulations for which I made the argument several
years ago. It is great to be back on this subject again.
I hoped that the first Bill we addressed in this Parliament
would be about food banks or a new train line to the
south-west, but ATOL reform is as good a place to start as
any. I welcome the Bill. The updating of consumer
protection for holidaymakers is long overdue and it comes
on the back of several improvements in recent years in the
way in which holidays have been sold and protected. I spent
many years in Brussels working with colleagues of the hon.
Member for Chelmsford (Vicky Ford) and others on how we
could strengthen the consumer protection for people buying
holidays. As other hon. Members have said, the way in which
holidays are sold has changed considerably in recent years.
The travel industry operates under legislation that has not
kept pace, in the UK or the EU, with the way in which
travel is sold, partly because of the inventiveness and
ingenuity of innovators and entrepreneurs in the travel
industry. We are fortunate that the UK sector is second to
none in how entrepreneurial it is.
My starting point for considering the Bill is to ask
whether it will give certainty and confidence to consumers.
The ATOL certificates introduced several years ago by the
coalition Government were a step forward, but more can be
done. In particular, people are often confused by the
protection given when they buy a package, when they buy a
flight-plus arrangement or when they buy separate
arrangements sold at the same time with transferred data—a
linked travel arrangement. The Bill does not say much about
what secondary legislation will accompany it, and it will
be essential that we get the detail right. The industry and
consumers have been waiting for the Bill for some time and
it is important that there is no further delay.
Having listened to the debate and having worked in the
travel industry for a number of years, I think it is
important that the House understands the clear distinction
between the protection afforded by ATOL for package sales
and those that can be afforded by buying decent holiday
insurance, including SAFI—scheduled airline failure
insurance. As the hon. Member for Milton Keynes South (Iain
Stewart) remarked, time is running out. We are six months
away from legislation needing to be in place and 12 months
away from full compliance. For an industry already selling
holidays 12 to 18 months ahead, that creates a difficulty
for consumers when it comes to understanding what
protections will be in place for their holidays.
The package travel directive, which I have learned to love
and hate at the same time, introduced many new concepts and
requirements, particularly in relation to the notable
systems changes required to facilitate additional
information provisions within the directive. It gets even
more complicated when one starts looking through it. Travel
businesses need to have sufficient time to prepare for the
effective date of 1 July and to plan sales beyond 2018.
That preparation is already at an advanced stage. We need
the Government to publish the regulations quickly so that
they can be properly consulted on and so that industry can
take the necessary steps to adapt to them. I am thinking
particularly of small businesses that may be captured for
the first time in the scope of the regulations.
Travel is a complex fast-paced industry full of fantastic
people. These technical updates need to be fully understood
and implemented over time for many different booking
systems, both in UK companies and those that operate
internationally. That is why the draft regulations cannot
come a moment too soon. The Bill will help to clear up
confusion about which holidays are protected and which are
not. There was an interim stage of flight-pluses: buying a
flight plus another element, such as holiday accommodation
or car hire. Wrapping them all together is a positive step
forward, but will the Minister look again at how linked
travel arrangements are treated in the Bill? He mentioned
an attempt to bring LTAs into the scope of the protection.
I would like to see more detail on that, because how they
are treated is especially important. If those transactions
are not treated in the right way, they can fall outside the
scope of the protections.
The people of Plymouth should not need to look into the
small print of their contracts or their regulations to work
out if they are protected. At the moment, there is still
too much detail for people to understand whether they are
fully protected. Given my newness in this House and the
fact that this is the first Bill to be presented, will the
Minister do me a favour and address a few things in his
summing up? Will he clarify whether the implementation date
for all bookings is from the point of sale or the point of
departure? That is really important in terms of
understanding whether holidays being sold now, which may be
captured by the regulations after the implementation date,
need to have retrospective protection added to them or
whether that needs to be added subsequently. That could
result in real confusion for consumers so I would be
grateful if the Minister cleared that up. I would also be
grateful if the Minister reaffirmed that the protections
afforded by not only the package travel regulations but the
air passenger and other passenger rights regimes will be
carried through when we leave the European Union.
I would like to spend a moment on the air travel trust
fund. For those who have not spent time looking at how the
ATTF operates, the fund provides back-up support in the
event of a holiday company going down. It should ensure
that there are sufficient resources not only to bring
people stranded abroad home but to refund passengers who
have not yet taken their holiday. Will the Minister provide
an update on how it is going? Now there is £140 million in
the fund and provisions in the Bill to create what I
suspect are protected cells within the air travel trust
fund—the Government have up to this point shied away from
doing that—will he clarify how it will work in practice?
Should a new entrance cell in the ATTF be exhausted by the
failure of a company in that cell, will the ATTF for the
remainder of the holiday industry need to top it up? If a
company already covered goes bust and the fund is
insufficient, will the ATOL protection contributions—the
£2.50 we pay for protection—be transferred into that
element of the ATTF to ensure that people are brought home?
The ATTF has been exhausted in the past so these technical
questions could help to provide reassurance for consumers
to know that the fund will always be there.
Finally, on enforcement of the Bill, I note that the Civil
Aviation Authority and Trading Standards are to take a
larger role. The CAA has, for quite some time, done a good
job of enforcing the ATOL regulations. I am, however,
concerned about Trading Standards, which is already under a
huge amount of pressure and stress to deliver the work it
currently undertakes. This could further add to that
difficulty and complexity.
It is great that so many people are familiarising
themselves with the intricacies of ATOL protection. I hope
that all right hon. and hon. Members do so during the
passage of the Bill. I hope that the Bill will also be the
start of a greater focus on tourism by Government. Outbound
tourism, which is the type of tourism that ATOL protects,
has fallen between a number of Government stools for far
too long, with split responsibilities between the
Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, the
Department for Transport and the Department for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy. It sometimes seems that
this is a hot potato that no Government Minister wants to
touch. I am grateful that the Bill has been introduced,
because it is time to consider a single regulator for the
travel industry and whether there can be a clear Department
responsible for bringing together all the elements of
outbound protection for holidaymakers.
We are very lucky to have an outstanding outbound tourism
sector. I notice that nearly all Members who have spoken to
date have praised their local airport. Plymouth’s airport
closed in 2010. I implore the Minister to look again at how
measures can be put in place to help us to reopen our
airport in Plymouth so that I can join the cohort of
Members who have praised their own airport. At the moment,
my airport is growing grass on the runway. I hope it can
open again soon, so that holidaymakers in Plymouth can
enjoy the same protections that ATOL affords holidaymakers
leaving other airports.
8.06 pm
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(North East Derbyshire)
(Con)
Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for the opportunity to be
able to contribute for the first time in this place. It is
a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Plymouth, Sutton
and Devonport (Luke Pollard). I cannot hope to live up to
his erudition and obvious knowledge of the subject. I am
also grateful for the opportunity to be able to speak on
the Bill, which I wholeheartedly support. When times change
there is sometimes a need for regulations to change.
Sometimes there is a need for no regulation, but in this
case there is a need for regulations to change. I support
that and I look forward to supporting the Bill in the
coming months.
It is an honour and a privilege to represent the beautiful
constituency of North East Derbyshire, a constituency of
stunning landscapes, vibrant communities, rich ambition and
a proud, proud heritage. We sit two hours away from here,
nestled between the steel city of Sheffield in the north,
the beauty of the Peak District in the west and the market
town of Chesterfield in the east. My constituency has been
happily and completely intertwined with Chesterfield for
hundreds and hundreds of years. From that market town rises
the crooked spire, with which some Members may be aware: a
church that has been in place for over six centuries and
which is notable for its spire not quite being as straight
as it should be. It dominates the landscape of Chesterfield
and my constituency for miles around. I am a son of that
crooked spire. I was born only a few hundred metres away
from where it has stood for those six and a half centuries.
There is something unique about having the privilege to
serve in this place and I look forward in the coming months
and years to doing so, but there is something particularly
unique about having the opportunity to represent the place
where I grew up and the people who gave me the very values
I will speak of in this place when I have the opportunity
to do so and to be able to talk about the area that made
me. I have that privilege and I am incredibly grateful for
that.
Before I enter North East Derbyshire into the obligatory
most beautiful constituency competition—I assure hon.
Members that my constituency will win hands down—I would
like to spend a moment talking about my predecessors. I
walk in huge and assured footsteps: the progeny of one of
the founders of the industrial revolution, Francis
Arkwright; one of the people who opened up the Derbyshire
coal field, for which my constituency is so thankful and to
which so much of its legacy is accorded, Alfred Barnes; and
even a Nobel peace prize winner, Arthur Henderson, the
three-times leader of the Labour party who did so much
during the dark days of the 1930s for the causes of
disarmament and peace.
I would just like to dwell for a moment on one particular
person who had the privilege to represent North East
Derbyshire: my immediate predecessor, . I have been here but
a moment, and I can already see the love and the respect
that Members across the House have for Natascha, and I am
happy to report that that love and respect is reciprocated
in the constituency. In a time of fierce partisanship and,
in my view, unnecessary rancour, I am happy to say that,
despite having a different rosette from Natascha, I believe
she was an exemplary Member of Parliament. I thank her for
her 12 years’ service in the constituency and I hope she
returns to public life soon, albeit representing a
different area, if she chooses to come back to this place.
North East Derbyshire is a constituency of contrasts, from
the beauty of the richly undulating hills of picture
postcard-perfect villages such as Ashover and the beauty of
the Cordwell and Moss valleys in the north and east, to the
fiercely independent market town of Dronfield, with its
monument to Sir Robert Peel’s repeal of the corn laws in
the 1850s—an indication, I am sure, of my constituents’
dislike of unnecessary regulation, which is something I
will remember. They give way in the east to a landscape at
once both scarred by the endeavours of man and then rebuilt
over time, as we return to our former glory in North East
Derbyshire.
My constituency came of age in the service of its nation in
the provision of energy. At one point a century ago, a
predecessor of mine stood in this place and talked of
40,000 men in my constituency who were mining under its
ground every single day. Mining is in my constituency’s
blood and, like the hon. Member for Crewe and Nantwich
(Laura Smith), I share that trait, in that both my
grandparents were miners, including one who mined for a
time at Westhorpe colliery in Killamarsh, a town that I now
have the privilege to represent.
I am the son of a milkman who left school at 15 and went
out to work every day before dawn in order to provide for
his children and his wife. I am the son of a lady who left
school at 16 and, through sheer force of will, went back to
school in her 30s and, while holding down a job and
bringing up two boisterous young boys, got two university
degrees so that she could provide for her kids and make her
life better. I am the great-nephew of the lady who ran the
post office at Renishaw, a village in my constituency, and
I am the nephew of an aunt who once went to work for the
National Union of Mineworkers during the miners’ strike.
North East Derbyshire has demonstrated by electing its
first Conservative Member of Parliament since 1931 that it
has changed. I do not say that in the spirit of
partisanship; I say it as it is merely a fact. In the same
way that my constituency has changed, I think my family
somehow reflects that change as well, from the descriptions
that I have just given. That I am stood here today, a
working-class boy able to talk in this place and represent
the people I grew up with, is something that I will never
forget. I will always seek to do my best for my
constituency as a result.
Beautiful as my constituency is, and honoured as I am to be
the winner of the competition that I have spoken about, my
constituency also suffers from unique challenges and
problems. We currently have the issue of inappropriate
housing developments in the beautiful valleys that I have
talked about, because the local council did not put in
place the plans that it should have done years ago to avoid
that. We have a fracking proposal in the beautiful Moss
valley, which my constituents neither want nor wish to see
happen, and I will support them in their opposition for as
long as it is on the table. We also have the ever-growing
burden of congestion, across a constituency as disparate as
mine, which stops people getting around and stops
businesses doing their daily work and which we have to
tackle in these debates.
But my constituency is more than that. I pledge to my
constituents that as long as I have the privilege to speak
in this place, however long or short that is, I will work
hard on their behalf and try my hardest every single day to
make life better for them. Although I cannot guarantee that
I will solve the problems that I have described or the ones
that may come in future, I will try my hardest to mitigate
the effects on them and resolve them where I can. If I have
any time beyond my constituents, I will seek to dedicate it
to this place, in trying to answer one of the big
challenges of our time—a challenge that I, as someone new
here, believe is growing and urgent and needs to be
resolved. That is the challenge, at its most basic, of
creating healthy, happy and prosperous communities that are
bound together in tight union by energy, grit and
determination.
I was born in 1980. According to some social commentators I
am, to use that ugly word, a millennial and I sense
something deeply amiss in my generation and the one that
comes after it—a grave uncertainty, not about the politics
of today or the policies that my Government are pushing
forward, and which I wholeheartedly support, but something
that is more visceral, more structural, more underlying. I
feel that my generation is unsure about its place in the
world. I feel that it is uncertain about where the world is
going—that it feels that it is hurtling untethered into a
place unknown and has been for 20, 30 or 40 years. I fear
that my generation believes that it may be the first to
hand over the world in a worse state than it found it,
despite the best efforts of those on these Benches and all
Benches in this place. We have to consider that as
parliamentarians. We have to realise that my generation and
other generations are unsure and uncertain.
However, I would also say to my generation, as frustrated
as it is, that the easy words and warm allure of anecdote
and emotion that I have seen in recent weeks, months and
years is no substitute for good governance. In whatever
time I have in this place, I will stand up for cool
thinking and understanding and for articulating problems in
a proper and clear way. In the time I have here, I will
also stand up for the values of my constituency—values of
compassion and emotion, but also the values of hard work,
aspiration and ambition that my constituency has imbued in
me. I will also stand up for the creed of free markets,
liberal economics and capitalist progress—unfashionable as
they may be in a field in Somerset, but the only engine for
us to unshackle ourselves from the bonds of yesterday, that
we may face the challenges of today and look forward to the
future of tomorrow. While I have the opportunity to serve
here, those are the things that I will put forward.
8.16 pm
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(Weaver Vale)
(Lab)
Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, and congratulations on being
re-elected—very good choice, may I add? It is great to
follow the hon. Member for North East Derbyshire (Lee
Rowley), who made an excellent maiden speech.
As is customary in a maiden speech, I want first to
acknowledge the work that my predecessor, , did for the
constituents of Weaver Vale during his seven years in
office. Graham’s contribution to parliamentary life was
richly diverse. He both chaired the all-party group on beer
and encouraged many hon. Members to take up
running—although I am assured that this did not involve
running in the direction of the bar. Graham completed the
London marathon many times, raising a great deal of money
for good causes both local and national, and he encouraged
many Members from all parts of the House to do likewise. I
wish Graham and his family well in the future.
The House of Commons Library and a plethora of MPs from all
parts of the House advise me that it is important to
research some notable historical facts and figures about my
constituency. Its three major conurbations are Northwich,
Runcorn and Frodsham. Weaver Vale takes its name from its
association with the River Weaver in the heart of my
Cheshire constituency. People and things of historical
association include Sir John Brunner, founding member of
ICI and a former MP for the patch, Tim Burgess of The
Charlatans—a band that are a favourite of mine—who hails
from Northwich, and the excellent comedian John Bishop, a
Runcorn lad with excellent taste in politics. Weaver Vale
is also the place where Daniel Craig served his James Bond
apprenticeship in the Ring o’ Bells pub in Frodsham,
undoubtedly doing stunts across the bar. Another person of
note associated with Runcorn is my wife Amanda, who was
born there and has stuck with me through thick and thin—I
think it was a wise and necessary move to include Amanda in
my maiden speech.
As Members will know, Britain is a diverse, rich and
vibrant nation, and much of that can be said of my
constituency. An array of industries and business sectors
are represented in Weaver Vale, with no one industry
dominating the life of the entire constituency. Northwich,
Weaverham, Frodsham, Helmsby, and the eastern part of
Runcorn comprise much of the urban life of the
constituency, woven around rural areas. I am obviously
going to say this, but it is one of the best places in the
country in which to live, visit and work.
What grabs me most about the diverse fabric of Weaver Vale
is how it has changed over the centuries and decades. At
Runcorn is found Norton Priory, the most excavated monastic
site in Europe, where the remains of the 12th-century abbey
are found alongside the urban estates from the 1970s, where
I must now focus much of my attention in assisting
constituents. Weaver Vale has a proud industrial heritage,
spanning back to Roman Britain, from the salt mines in
Northwich to its association with ICI, historically
employing thousands of workers throughout Runcorn,
Northwich and surrounding areas. Although many people are
still employed in the chemical industry, new high-tech
industries have emerged and are thriving at Daresbury
laboratory, using nanotechnology and robotics and providing
the high-skilled, high-knowledge jobs that our community
and our nation need. During my tenure as Labour MP for
Weaver Vale, I will encourage new and emerging green
industries to locate in my patch, and to employ local
people. My hon. Friends and I want an economy that works
for everyone. We want a race to the top, creating access to
highly skilled, fulfilling and sustainable jobs, not a race
to the bottom, with insecure zero-hours contracts and fake
self-employment franchises.
Like the nation itself, Weaver Vale is a tale of two
communities. It has some beautiful countryside, towns and
villages. Just picture that rural idyll, with thatched
cottages and country pubs such like the White Lion in
Alvanley, which I visited only on Sunday. Some residents in
my constituency are fortunate enough to have incomes above
the national average, but many of my constituents in places
such as Windmill Hill and Palacefields in Runcorn face real
poverty in their daily lives, from childhood onwards.
Despite what Conservative Members claim, there is a real
lack of work, too much insecure part-time employment, a
growth in zero-hours contracts and a welfare system that
lacks compassion and common sense.
One person who experienced the shortcomings of our current
welfare system is Sheila, who, very recently, had an
operation to remove a brain tumour. When I met Sheila, she
could barely walk a metre to the TV. That was a result of
the operation, but also of the side-effects of the steroid
drugs that she was taking to help to prevent seizures.
Sheila had worked hard. She had played by the rules, and
paid her taxes. But in her time of need, when the welfare
state should have been there to care for her, she instead
received a £1,500 cut in her income, and was labelled a
shirker by a system overseen by a callous, out-of-touch and
now, I would say, chaotic Government. The Prime Minister
talks about a nation that works for everyone, but it is
certainly not working for Sheila and many thousands like
her.
Let me also tell the House about another growth industry
that is not a welcome sight in my constituency. I am
talking about the sight of hard-pressed residents and
families having to use food banks. In the past year the use
of food banks has gone up by 25% in the Northwich part of
my constituency alone, an issue that was highlighted only
recently by one of the local newspapers, the Northwich
Guardian. It seems that those who are most in need in our
society are paying the price of a failed austerity
programme that has more to do with an ideological drive to
shrink the state, while living standards go into reverse
gear and the national debt is now more than £1.7 trillion.
This is not a society that works for everyone.
Finally, I want to thank the thousands of constituents who
put me here, especially the young people who came out to
vote for the first time, inspired by the politics of hope
and opportunity and by a manifesto that wants to put them
first for investment rather than cuts: a manifesto for the
many and not the few. This rather weak and unstable
Government need to take note: I took my seat from one of
your own, because my constituents want more bobbies on the
beat, not less. They do not want to see individual school
budgets cut by hundreds of thousands of pounds. They want
smaller class sizes, and they want teachers and support
staff who are secure in their jobs and not fearful for the
future. They also want to keep their local hospitals
open—and yes, those with the broadest shoulders should pay
their fair share in taxes and invest in our future.
As a lad born in Wythenshawe, Manchester, I never envisaged
that I would have the honour of sitting on these green
Benches to represent Weaver Vale. I was the first in my
family to get a degree, and I gave back to society by
becoming a careers adviser, helping young people to get
into work, training and education. I was the first in my
family to become a city councillor, serving the good people
of Manchester for 11 years, and I am now the first Amesbury
in my family to become an MP—a Labour MP.
Unlike some in the House, I do not have a long line of
ancestors who served this House and the other place next
door. My family made me who I am. My dad, Barney, was a
carpet fitter, then a publican. My late mum used to clean
caravans and serve school dinners, and my younger sister is
a teaching assistant. All those people would be hit by the
pay cap. All of them were and are extraordinary people in
their own right: grafters, fighters, and real people.
I bring my real life experience into the Chamber as a check
and balance on the Government and as a champion for my
constituents, especially those who are most in need. To
represent the people of Weaver Vale now is the greatest
privilege of my life. Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for
giving me the opportunity to introduce myself to the House.
8.27 pm
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(Clacton) (Con)
It is a great honour to follow the hon. Member for Weaver
Vale (Mike Amesbury), who made an impassioned speech. It is
also a great honour to follow my hon. Friend the Member for
North East Derbyshire (Lee Rowley), who spoke without
notes. I intend to do no such thing.
ATOL equals peace of mind. It is safe to go on holiday if
the holiday is protected by ATOL. That makes sense. Peace
of mind is good; it is happy. I therefore support the Bill.
It is also an honour to be here at all. Just a few short
weeks before I stood for election—at the by-election in
Clacton in 2014—I was on tour with Jason Donovan in a
production of “Priscilla, Queen of the Desert”. I have
played on many stages across the world in 45 years, but
this has to be the finest. Thank you, residents of Clacton;
I will do my very best for you.
I was honoured and indeed humbled when the residents of
Clacton gave me the overwhelming support they did at the
last election, but I had one other overwhelming sensation,
which I am sure many others have, when they first take
their seat in the House—that was, what on earth have I let
myself in for? When I relayed my concerns to my wife,
Vanda—she gets a namecheck as well—she said, “It’s a stage
and an audience. What could possibly go wrong?” What a
stage and what an audience!
In preparation, I looked up the advice on maiden speeches.
It tells us that the typical maiden speech is divided into
three parts. Part one consists of being nice about the
previous incumbent of the seat. I remind Members that my
seat is Clacton. Part two involves a glittering description
of the constituency, outlining its fabulous assets and its
wonderful potential. In part three, one is advised to lay
out some of the plans one has to enhance the wonderful area
one represents, left even more wonderful by the splendid
previous incumbent.
So to part one. My immediate predecessor was the notable
, against whom I
fought two parliamentary elections. It must be said that we
did not always see eye to eye, but I will say this: Douglas
was an extremely good constituency MP. As a district
councillor, I was regularly in contact with him and I saw
at first hand his competent dealings in the constituency.
You would send him a note and he always gave you a
considered reply—a good example to me. Even after he moved
gently on from our party, he always behaved like a
gentleman and it is to his credit that we fought those two
elections without any mud-slinging, however tempting it
might have been. We fought on the issues, not on the
personalities. I had respect for him holding his views,
even if I did not agree, and I frequently did not.
When I made my speech on being elected, I touched on the
subject of respect. I paid tribute to my fellow candidates.
I respect them for going on the sometimes gruelling journey
that we all know about in this place, pacing the streets,
taking some flak, but meeting some wonderful people. I may
have stoutly disagreed with my fellow candidates on many
issues, but I never once attacked them personally. You can
check Facebook, Twitter or any of the other social media
platforms and you will see that I never denigrated the
other candidates. It seems a pity that we have reached a
nadir through social media where a lot of plain nastiness
is regular. If we all had a little more respect, the world
would be a far happier place.
To part two. Over the last 10 years, I have been fortunate
to represent my residents at Tendring District Council. My
ward, Frinton-on-Sea, has always been at the forefront of
my mind when dealing with issues at district level and,
from now on, Clacton, my constituency, its residents and
their views will always be at the centre of all I do here.
The Clacton constituency is roughly half of Tendring
district, a stunning peninsula with the Colne to the
south-west, the Stour to the north and the North sea to the
east; I think Members can see where I am going with his. As
a result, we have 36 miles of the most stunning coastline
pretty much anywhere in the country. We have the sandy
beaches of Walton, Frinton and Clacton. Probably the best
beaches of all are at Jaywick Sands. We have the Walton
Backwaters, a mysterious area of tidal creeks, mudflats and
islands— salt marshes and marsh grasslands which in the
late ‘30s gave Arthur Ransome the inspiration to write his
book, “Secret Water”. It is called “Secret Water” because,
when one approaches from the sea, it is difficult to see
that there is an entrance there. So we have the buzz of
Clacton, the quiet of Frinton, the rustic charm of Walton,
the beautiful village and priory of St Osyth, and the
bucolic hinterland of gorgeous villages and countryside. It
is no wonder that we have a fast-reviving tourist industry.
We are the sunshine coast.
Which brings me neatly to part three. I find it absolutely
incomprehensible that this extraordinarily special place so
dear to my heart, lying as it does a mere 70 miles from
London, has historically been constantly overlooked. That
70-mile journey takes the best part of one hour 40 minutes
by train, which is simply not good enough. A journey by car
during peak times is an adventure only for the very brave.
The A12 is known to be one of the worst roads in the
country. It is often argued that we should be thankful that
we are so hard to get to, but there is the old adage: down
good roads wealth flows. Imagine if we could bring that
journey closer to an hour. Seventy miles in an hour—not
unthinkable; not even illegal. We would suddenly get the
wealth of London on our doorstep and we would regenerate.
Clacton faces many challenges, most of which we have been
taking head-on at the district council, and we have had
some success. The long-awaited regeneration of Jaywick has
begun. It has new roads, new buildings and a great sense of
community. It is on the up. Walton-on-the-Naze has new
developments and quality shops arriving. It is on the up.
In the last five years, at the district council, we have
managed to obtain £50 million-worth of investment for the
area, £36 million of which has been spent on new sea
defences in Holland-on-Sea and Clacton. You have to go to
see them. We have created new lagoons, reefs and beaches
over a 5 km stretch. We are on the up. But we need that
infrastructure, and that is just one of my priorities for
our much overlooked constituency.
I just want to remind everyone that we do exist in Clacton
and that all are welcome to come and see us. I will take
pleasure in taking visitors to the Naze Tower, built in
1720 by Trinity House as a landmark for mariners. It stands
on the highest point in the constituency and gives
breath-taking views across to Suffolk and over the beaches
and looks down on those treasured backwaters.
We are a jewel of a place with many facets. It is well
worth that 1 hour 40 minute journey; do come.
8.35 pm
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Mr (Isle of Wight)
(Con)
I want to say what a great privilege it is to follow my
hon. Friend the Member for Clacton (Giles Watling), but
such was the brilliance of his speech that my heart rather
sank.
I am genuinely humbled by listening to some of the
wonderful speeches from Members including the hon. Members
for Crewe and Nantwich (Laura Smith) and for North Ayrshire
and Arran (Patricia Gibson), my hon. Friend the Member for
Redditch (Rachel Maclean) and my hon. Friend the Member for
North East Derbyshire (Lee Rowley), who really brought home
why we are in this place; we listened in silence, and I
thank him.
I think I am going to support this Bill, although I have to
say that any Bill relating to tourism that encourages
anyone to go anywhere other than the Isle of Wight seems to
suffer from what our philosophical Front Bench would call
an a priori flaw. However, my constituents are as generous
as they are understanding, and I am sure that they would
allow me to support this otherwise very sensible Bill.
I also want to pay tribute to my predecessor. was a kind man, a good listener, attentive to
his constituents and held in very high regard by many of
them. He worked hard for our island for 16 years and I wish
him a long, contented and happy retirement.
Representing the Isle of Wight—we call it the island, and I
apologise if I refer to it as such—is for me a labour of
love. It is my patch of England. I have loved it ever since
I was knee high to a grasshopper, and it is close to my
heart.
It also has a special place in the nation’s heart, serving
as a source of inspiration for islanders, visitors and our
nation’s greatest artists. Turner’s first great work was
for the Royal Academy: “Fishermen at sea” in the Solent,
with the Needles as a moonlit backdrop. The poet Alfred
Lord Tennyson settled here, and we hear our sounds and
understand our sense of place in his work. When we listen
to the seawater today rushing off the stones at Alum Bay,
we understand the line in “Maud”:
“Now to the scream of a maddened beach dragged down by the
wave”.
Swinburne and Keats wrote here:
“A thing of beauty is a joy forever”,
from “Endymion” is one of Keats’s greatest lines, and was
inspired by visits to Shanklin and Carisbrooke. The
wonderful eccentric Edward Lear tutored Queen Victoria at
Osborne, the Bonchurch watercolourists painted near
Ventnor, Julia Margaret Cameron, the wonderful feminist,
pioneered portrait photography at Dimbola Lodge, and the
Pre-Raphaelites hung out in Freshwater. And today we remain
a home for many island artists, as well as cultural and
sporting events of world renown.
We have a special place in science, too. We had the world’s
first telegraph station, the hovercraft and the seaplane
were built here, and the Blue Streak missile system—what a
great name for a missile system—was test-fired from the
Needles. And today the island’s experts produce some of the
most sophisticated radars in the world for the Royal Navy.
My hon. Friend the Member for Spelthorne (Kwasi Kwarteng)
eloquently assured us a fortnight ago that he was still
thrusting. I am sure of it, but let me remind the House
that our Thrust 2 jet-engined supercar, built largely on
the island, won and held the world land speed record for
our nation for over a decade, at some 633 mph. So on the
Isle of Wight, even our thrusting is world class.
Moving from science to pseudo-science, Karl Marx was a
regular visitor, a point I might have to make should the
right hon. Member for Islington North (Jeremy Corbyn) ever
come to power—although if the victory last month was any
harbinger of the future, let us wish Opposition Members
many more such victories in the years to come.
On a more serious note, I mentioned our arts and science
not to provide a potted history lesson or to express my
love for my constituency—which I hope is self-evident—but
because they are what we need for our future. We need again
to embrace art, science, technology, innovation and
education to inspire, to enrich and to employ. Our island
is special in many ways, but our wealth has not always been
of the financial kind and there is a perception that
Whitehall sometimes overlooks us. In the 1990s, the
Government promised the Isle of Wight and the Scilly Isles
that they would study the extra costs of being an island.
Sadly, that promise came to nothing, but those costs are
recognised in Scotland through the special islands needs
allowance, which provides an uplift in funding for some
half a dozen councils with island seats. I believe that we
need a better deal for our island, and it is not just a
question of money, although every little helps and I will
fight for extra spending on health and education. It is
about islanders working with the Government to generate
ideas for the public good, and about the Government working
with us and being keen to listen. I know that there are
good examples of that happening, and I wish to encourage
more of it.
We need to embrace the knowledge economy and higher
education. I look forward to working with the Department
for Education and with universities to provide
opportunities for such engagement. We need to continue to
drive all education standards on the island, and I will
continue to fight for the future of the Sandown Bay school.
I look forward to the Government’s continuing support.
Our cultural offer is getting stronger. We have the
wonderful Isle of Wight festival—I think Rod Stewart topped
the bill this year, as part of a tartan revival that is
clearly taking place in politics as well. We also have the
wonderful literary festival and the cutting-edge Ventnor
fringe festival—look out, Edinburgh! However, I wish to
work with Culture Ministers and institutions to find out
how they can help us to improve our museum offer and
possibly attract a major gallery to the island, to help
with year-round cultural tourism.
I look forward to engaging with Sport England and with
trade and investment Departments to work with our high-tech
sailing industry and with the sailing clubs of Cowes and
others to ensure that the town of Cowes remains the centre
of the sailing world. I also hope that it becomes a global
centre for disabled sailing. That would be an important
move that would have practical and moral implications. I
was privileged last month to meet the captain of our
national blind sailing team, who were prepping for their
world championships, and I wish Lucy and her inspiring team
all the very best.
We need to work with the Department for Work and Pensions,
and organisations such as Help the Aged and our wonderful
Mountbatten hospice, to make the island a national leader
in ensuring quality of life for those in later life,
combining health and social care and voluntary and state
support to enrich life.
In transport, we need to ensure the future of the Island
railway line and improve our cycling routes to make us
Britain’s leading cycling destination. We also need to
engage with the ferry firms to provide a better service.
Let me be clear: privatisation did a great deal of good in
the ’80s and ’90s nationally, but the privatisation of our
ferries was not such a great success. I do not have all the
answers, but I know that we should not have started from
that point. I am uncomfortable with the levels of debt that
Red Funnel and Wightlink have, because islanders—who are
not the richest people in the country—have to help to
subsidise it in order to cross the Solent.
I welcome the Government’s commitment to social housing and
starter housing from the bottom of my heart. I find it
difficult to explain to my fellow islanders why rich
property developers were able to build houses there that
most of my constituents could not afford. We do not need
large-scale projects, which are heartily disliked by many
islanders. They do significant cumulative damage to our
precious landscape, on which much of our tourism—which
accounts for half our economy—depends. We do, however, need
genuinely affordable projects to provide homes for
islanders, and we will work with the Government to build
them. Our island plan should reflect that. For my
islanders, housing is hope, especially for the younger
ones. Working with many others—our chamber of commerce, our
council, our excellent tourism team, voluntary groups and
individuals—we will present ideas for a brighter future for
our island.
Nationally, this Government have laudable aims of social
justice, hope, meritocracy and opportunity for all, values
which were inherent in manifestos and are absolutely
inherent in our hearts, but we sadly failed to translate
them during the campaign. I want those principles, aims,
values and aspirations for my fellow islanders and for our
nation. Let us deliver real change and real hope in the
next few years and set an example, whether economic, moral,
or political, that we are the natural party of government.
My fellow islanders deserve nothing but the best, and I
will do my best to give them the voice that they deserve.
Some Members, such as my hon. Friend the Member for North
East Derbyshire (Lee Rowley), have explained why we are
here far more eloquently than I have, but I will battle for
my island. I cannot promise to win every battle, but I will
fight every battle on their behalf for as long as I have
the honour of serving in our Parliament what Wordsworth
called “that delightful Island”.
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Hon. Members
Hear, hear!
8.45 pm
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(Stirling) (Con)
There is much acclaim for my hon. Friend the Member for
Isle of Wight (Mr Seely), whom I am delighted to follow.
Thank you for calling me to speak, Mr Deputy Speaker.
Friends and family have asked me what it feels like finally
to be here, and I simply say, “Surreal,” but in the best
possible meaning of the word. I could add “overwhelming”,
and that sense is multiplied today as I speak for the first
time in the Chamber as the new Member for Stirling. I am
acutely aware that so many people have placed in me a
sacred trust to do my best to serve all the people of
Stirling and to do what is right for my constituents and in
the national interest.
I am proud to call Stirling my home. It is situated at the
heart of Scotland and its story is long and dramatic. The
famed legend of Stirling’s wolf comes from the 9th century,
when the Anglo-Saxon defenders of the castle were roused
from their sleep by the howling of a wolf, warning them of
an impending Viking attack. The wolf is still celebrated to
this day.
Stirling remains as steadfast as the rock upon which its
castle sits. Last week, I had the privilege of marching
with the people of Cambusbarron on the annual march of the
gillies, which commemorates the actions of the sma’folk and
camp followers at the Battle of Bannockburn, who came over
the hill making such a din that they caused the English to
flee. We Scots have always had a knack for causing a
stooshie. The march now focuses on saving this important
historic site from the threat of quarrying.
Stirling constituency is more than the city. It stretches
from Drymen and Strathblane in the west to Cowie, Fallin
and Plean in the east, and from Killin, Crianlarich and
Tyndrum in the north to St Ninians and the Whins of Milton
in the south. Through the good offices of our auction
houses, Stirling hosts the premier bull sales in Scotland.
Dairy, meat production, and some of the best shortbread in
the country are all mainstays of my constituency, not to
mention the two whisky distilleries making great use of our
prodigious rainfall and fertile soils. Our financial
services sector and high-tech businesses in the digital
economy all make up a diverse, high-value economy that
contributes to the success of Stirling and of the Scottish
and the UK economies.
I am a graduate of the University of Stirling, which is now
in its 50th year and has a reputation in research and
teaching that is second to none. Stirling hosts the oldest
and the second oldest charitable trusts in Scotland.
Spittal’s Trust and Cowane’s Trust are part of the
centuries old tradition of Stirling’s voluntary sector in
providing relief for the needy members of the local trades
and guilds and their relatives. Social enterprise is alive
and well in Stirling, whether through the encouragement
given to local food and environmental initiatives such as
the Forth Environment Link, the work of Town Break in
helping those with dementia, or the work done by the
Trossachs Mobility group in ensuring that people with
disabilities can access our magnificent landscape from
Callander, which is fast becoming Scotland’s outdoor
capital.
Today we are debating the travel industry, and Stirling has
a unique connection to the things that make up the modern
travel industry. Stirling proudly owns Britain’s answer to
the Wright brothers. Frank and Harold Barnwell, originally
from Lewisham, made their homes in Balfron in 1882. They
came from a family in the shipbuilding business, and they
were great innovators. They built their first full-size
biplane in 1908. Unfortunately, it failed to take flight
but, undeterred, they produced a second design at their
works, the Grampian Motor and Engineering Company, under
the shadow of the Wallace monument in Causewayhead. And
then, on Wednesday 28 July 1909, they were responsible for
the first powered flight in Scotland when their aircraft
flew to an altitude of 13 feet and travelled for 80 yards
before a somewhat abrupt crash-landing.
It is down to the great innovators, like Stirling’s own
Barnwell brothers, and the pioneering paths they forged in
manned, powered flight that today we have the aviation
industry we have. Frank and Harold Barnwell represent the
great things that Britain has achieved—in this case, two
English entrepreneurs who moved their business to
Scotland—to create the inventions and businesses that made
the modern world.
I say to entrepreneurs and innovators across the globe:
Stirling is evidently the place to be—just as I say to all
hon. and right hon. Members that when the peoples of
Scotland, England and the other nations of the United
Kingdom work together, they have achieved and can yet
achieve remarkable things that, in turn, make this world a
better place.
Stirling’s best days lie ahead. The enthusiastic support of
Her Majesty’s Government for the Stirling city deal, so
expertly prepared by the officers of Stirling Council, is
most welcome, and I will make it my top priority to work
with the Secretary of State for Scotland, my right hon.
Friend the Member for Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and
Tweeddale (David Mundell) to secure and deliver the
Stirling city deal.
This Bill is especially important to the way in which
regulation works for innovative companies that have
revolutionised the travel industry in the digital space.
The new digital district at the heart of the Stirling city
deal will encourage the birth, survival and success of many
more innovative digital companies.
The pace of technological change in the world today is
staggering. We book travel and transport in completely
different ways from how we did it only a few years ago.
Gone are the days of flicking through teletext to snap up
package deals to the sun. The internet revolution has
empowered consumers and disruptive new companies to turn
old market models inside out, and the provisions of the
Bill are very welcome. It is important that consumer
protection rights keep up with the pace of technological
change. We must shape future measures in a way that adapts
to the new market conditions being created by the
entrepreneurial skills and talents of our challenger
digital businesses, and not stifle creativity by holding on
to outdated and outmoded regulation.
I take this opportunity to pay tribute to my predecessor,
. His tenure was
short, and I make no apology for that. That said, he was an
honourable and worthy opponent whose passion for Stirling
and Scotland cannot be doubted. I wish him well for the
future.
His predecessor was Dame . She was Stirling’s Member of Parliament for 18
years, and her public service was especially noteworthy for
her tireless work to promote and extend the rights of
disabled people. Hers is a wonderful personal legacy, and
one in which we should all take pride. I pay tribute to
her.
I should also like to make a special mention of my friend
, the
previous Conservative Member for Stirling. His record of
service in this House on behalf of the people of Stirling
and Scotland, and the United Kingdom, is remarkable. In his
maiden speech in 1983, he spoke of the problems facing
rural Stirling in the field of telecommunications. That, I
am sad to report to the House, remains an issue, although
it is now about broadband and mobile telephony, rather than
phone connections. I assure the House that digital
connectivity is a subject I will keep coming back to.
Public service is often cited as a reason for Members
taking seats in this House, and I add myself to their
number. A body politic that exists to serve its citizens is
one worth aspiring to. I was raised on politics, listening
as a small boy as my grandfather held forth on the merits
of the then Prime Minister, Harold Wilson. He was not a
fan, but his trenchant view was that the Government of the
day should govern in the national interest. Henry
Campbell-Bannerman, a former Member of Parliament for
Stirling and a former Prime Minister, said:
“Good government could never be a substitute for government
by the people themselves.”
That is also the perfect encapsulation of my personal
political credo. I believe in liberty, in freedom and
choice. I enlist to the moral argument for free enterprise
and free trade as the most powerful means of lifting
people, whole nations and regions out of poverty. I believe
in law and order, equality for all before the law and in
the good that government can do. I believe that the family,
in all its forms, is the basic unit of society; thriving
and successful families make for a thriving and successful
society, and social policy is always best seen through the
filter of what strengthens the family. I believe in fair
dealing, competition that advantages consumers and justice
in all its realms. I believe in giving power to the people
and in respecting local democracy, in the constructive
tension of public accountability, and in listening
carefully to the voice of the people.
Whether right hon. and hon. Members reflect on those last
words in terms of the implementation of a Brexit sanctioned
by the people or the results of the referendum in Scotland
to confirm its place within the United Kingdom, respect for
the voice of the people and following their democratically
delivered instruction is now the business of this House.
And so it is that we must be ready to implement the will of
the British people, and I make it my part to do so.
The British people have spoken and we will leave the
European Union. So much of the work of this Parliament is
now focused on the job at hand, and much of our work as
Members must be focused on working together to get the best
deal for our constituents and our country. I believe that,
in doing so, we have a duty as parliamentarians to
personify civility. We should resist trading in dubious
charges, misrepresentations and ugly innuendos. We should
demonstrate respect for all people, become good listeners
and show concern for the sincere beliefs of others;
although we may disagree, we ought not to be disagreeable.
I am here, then, on a mission: a mission to restore
civility in politics; a mission to represent and defend the
interests of Stirling; and a mission to promote and be an
advocate for my home constituency and, above all, to serve
the people and national interest of this United Kingdom.
8.58 pm
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(Walsall North)
(Con)
It is difficult to follow my hon. Friend the Member for
Stirling (Stephen Kerr), as I stumble my way through my
maiden speech. The best thing is, though, that he and I
will be sharing an office for the next five years, so I
will have the opportunity to polish my public speaking with
the benefit of his advice.
It is interesting that this Bill is the first one that we
are discussing. People are talking about the problems air
travellers might have, but according to the 2011 census,
nearly one in four of my constituents do not even own a
passport. The Bill is clearly very important for those who
do have a passport and manage to undertake overseas travel,
so that their money is protected. For some people, air
travel is not something they do every week or every year—it
represents a one-off opportunity. It would clearly be the
worst thing that could happen to them if their funds were
in any way threatened by companies going out of business,
so the Bill is incredibly important.
Some Members might not have been present when the Minister
opened the debate, but I firmly endorse his sartorial
standpoint of not taking interventions from male Members
who are not wearing ties. I bought this suit at the weekend
specifically to wear when making my first speech in this
Chamber—[Hon. Members: “Hear, hear!”] I will obviously be
wearing exactly the same suit for the rest of the week, but
at least for today I am looking my best.
I thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for calling me in today’s
debate, because the good people of Walsall North, which
includes Willenhall, Bloxwich, Leamore, Blakenall and Short
Heath, have had to wait 41 years to hear a maiden speech
from their Member of Parliament. You can only imagine how
disappointed they will be when they see that the seven
people who made speeches immediately before me were funny,
erudite, clever and interesting—they will think, “What the
hell did we wait 41 years for this nonsense for?”
In preparing for my maiden speech, I sought advice from
experienced orators from both sides of the Chamber, but I
think that the best advice I received came from Brendan
Fisher, one of our ever-present, ever-helpful Doorkeepers.
I have made a freefall parachute jump with my wife Clare
and my two children, Sam and Corrine, and Brendan suggested
that making a maiden speech was like doing a freefall
parachute jump: there is the nervous anticipation while
boarding the plane and ascending to the required altitude,
before leaping, screaming, through the doors, only to find
that the sensation of racing towards the ground at 100 mph
is actually a pleasurable one—something that you want to
repeat as soon as your feet hit the ground.
Hitting the ground running was what I needed to do to stand
any chance of beating my entrenched predecessor, . Many Members will
be familiar with David as a tenacious parliamentarian. If I
remember correctly, it was David’s amendment to legislation
on the detention of terror suspects that led to the then
Prime Minister, , losing his first
whipped vote in this Chamber in 2005. When I knocked doors
during the campaign, I realised just how assiduously David
had worked on behalf of his constituents. I found many
people who were not minded to vote for the Labour party—at
least not under its current leadership—but were prepared to
vote for David because of the good deeds he had done for
them, their friends or their family. It was David’s 84th
birthday last Monday and I wish to extend my best wishes to
him for his birthday and his retirement.
I grew up in a house with six brothers. My dad was an Irish
bus driver, and we did not have a lot of money to celebrate
birthdays. There was not much money for presents, but with
six lads there was quite a lot of fun and quite a lot of
fighting. My parents were delighted—and, I guess,
relieved—that I went to grammar school. I then went on to
university—I was the first in my family to do so—and it was
at university that I developed an interest in politics. As
soon as I graduated, I went back to night school to do
A-levels in politics and economics to give me a bit of a
basic grounding. Although, unfortunately, I voted Labour
the first time I voted—[Hon. Members: “Boo!”] I know, but I
was actually a closet Conservative—[Hon. Members: “Hear,
hear!”] It was then a quick journey from joining the party
as an enthusiastic activist to standing for the council,
and I have served on Walsall Council for the past 18 years.
What a privilege it is now to be the MP for Walsall North.
I will be building on some bostin’ work that is already
going on in my constituency. For example, I recently met
Peter Shirley—the irrepressible Peter—who started the
Midland Food Group in 1976 on his own. Today, that business
turns over in excess of £50 million a year and employs more
than 250 people. It sources quality meats and cheeses
locally, and its export market includes the Falkland
Islands. Similarly, Walsall Housing Group—I am proud to
chair the board—recently signed a deal for a joint venture
to build 400 new houses in the Goscote Lane corridor.
Indeed, according to a recent edition of Inside Housing,
within the next two years, Walsall Housing Group will
complete just over 1,100 new houses. That is what is going
on under the Government: creating high-quality affordable
houses and the jobs that go with their construction.
To get a job, people need a good education, so what better
place to start that education than Beacon primary school in
New Invention? Two years ago, the school was rated by
Ofsted as requiring improvement. Boy, did that improvement
come in the shape of Paul Drew, the innovative headmaster,
who has raised standards not just for staff but for
students. Ofsted has recently rated Beacon as a good
school. It does not take money to persuade the admin staff
at the school that they should be trained to help children
with reading practice. That just takes forward thinking—the
type that we need to see. Better education is not always
about throwing money at it: it is about employing
inspirational leaders.
And so to my inevitable Brexit peroration. Sixty-eight per
cent. of people in Walsall North who voted in the
referendum voted to leave the EU. They want a good deal for
themselves and a good deal for the country, but they do not
want a deal that is good just for the 68%—they want a deal
that is good for the 100%. They want to know that there are
local entrepreneurs who are going to create jobs and find
new and exciting export markets around the world. They want
to control immigration while ensuring that we have the
skills to maintain a strong economy and a strong public
sector. They want low-cost affordable housing for every
stage of their life, and they want inspirational
headteachers to give their children the best start in life.
It is a privilege to speak this evening, Mr Deputy Speaker,
and I hope that you will call me many times in future to
advocate on behalf of my constituents.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle)
Order. We have another maiden speech. I call .
9.07 pm
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(Ayr, Carrick and
Cumnock) (Con)
Thank you very much, Mr Deputy Speaker. I compliment my
hon. Friend the Member for Walsall North (Eddie Hughes) on
both his note-free speech and his choice of suit, which I
have been admiring like other colleagues.
The Bill deals with ATOL and is relevant to people who
choose to travel by air. Like my colleagues, I am minded to
welcome and support it for three reasons: it is
modernising; it is harmonising; and it provides good
consumer protection.
May I begin my maiden speech by saying that I am indeed
honoured and humbled to be in this Chamber today, having
been elected by the people of Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock? It
is privilege, and I will always remember that they trusted
me with their vote. I value that and will do all that I can
for the constituency of Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock. May I
share with hon. Members part of my life’s journey? It would
be terribly boring if I gave them my whole life’s journey,
but for the past 10 years I was an elected councillor in
South Ayrshire. My ward was in the town of Ayr on the
coast. There are many good things about Ayr, but I will
touch on two. Ayr racecourse is one of the UK’s premier
racecourses. I invite Members to come along and spend their
money there—they might even make money that they can invest
to make some more. Odds on, they may lose some money. In
addition, we have hosted the Scottish international air
show for the past three years. For the moment, it is a
wonderful event. It is not a threat to Farnborough but, in
years to come, one never knows.
My time on the council was preceded by 31 years in
Strathclyde fire and rescue service. I served throughout
Ayrshire and the central belt, was based in headquarters
for 10 years as a member of the technical support team, and
finally served as a senior officer covering Argyll and
Bute, and the beautiful islands—I would name them, but
there are too many. It was a complex and diverse fire
service, with Glasgow sadly being remembered as a tinderbox
city many years ago, and I was well aware of that. Given my
background, it is particularly poignant for me to deliver
my maiden speech so close in time to the tragic Grenfell
Tower incident, which must surely have been a hell on earth
for all concerned. I await with interest the outcome of
what must be a thorough and effective public inquiry.
I pay tribute to my predecessor, , for the good work she
undertook in this Chamber and in the constituency during
her period in office. I thank her and wish her well for the
future. Some further thanks are due to my appointed buddy,
Joanna Freeman, who is a tolerant and lovely woman. She
guided me—a lost soul as one of the new MPs—through what I
describe as the wonders of Westminster. I will also take a
wee moment to thank my long-suffering wife, Agnes, our two
daughters, Angela and Karen, and our family, who have been
helpful in the journey that has brought me to this Chamber.
, and George Younger
preceded as MPs for Ayr, Carrick
and Cumnock. They were all excellent parliamentarians who
may be remembered by some in this House.
Let me take Members back to the dark days of the second
world war of 1939 to 1945, when the Labour MP for South
Ayrshire was Alexander Sloan, better known locally as Sanny
Sloan. A former miner and a workers’ champion, he served
his community well, but regrettably, like so many miners,
he was dogged by ill health and died in 1945, soon after
his second victory in an election to this House. The
commonality is that we were both born to mining families in
the small Ayrshire mining village of Rankinston, albeit we
were born some 72 years apart.
There are many proud British institutions, but I shall
mention just two: this Parliament and the national health
service. One wonders—dare I say it?—what the outcome would
be if there were a referendum on which should be closed. I
suspect that this Chamber would be empty. I thank the
national health service, and Dr Nykerie and his team at the
Golden Jubilee hospital in Clydebank near Glasgow, for the
successful double bypass surgery that I successfully
underwent in 2014. My family and I are eternally grateful
to them. However, I must apologise to my constituents in
Maybole, a town just south of Ayr. I waited three months
for my bypass, but they have waited nearly 30 years for
theirs. The town is severed by the A77, which is—excuse the
pun—a main artery from the central belt of Scotland to the
constituency of my hon. Friend the Member for Dumfries and
Galloway (Mr Jack) for the important ferry ports at
Cairnryan that serve the ferry traffic to and from our
neighbours in Ireland. It is an economic driver, so the A77
is an essential link. The punishment of the 30-tonners and
40-tonners taking that journey through the villages needs
to be rectified, particularly at Maybole, and I am sure
that it will be.
Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock is a rural and coastal community
that is, to some extent, the bread basket of Britain, with
Ayrshire tatties, bacon and cheese, and Ayrshire cattle,
not forgetting the—albeit smaller—fishing communities along
our coast from Dunure to Maidens and Girvan, which is still
an active port, and to Ballantrae in the southernmost part.
The good food and eateries in the constituency are
considerably more reasonably priced than those in London;
they have wonderful prices. After consuming the lovely food
of various eateries, visitors may wish to toast that good
food with a fine whisky or a delicately distilled
Hendrick’s gin from & Sons in
Girvan. There is no connection. Although I am and they are
, I do not have a
distillery. Their product is wonderful. Hendrick’s gin and
Grant’s whisky are global.
As an area, we have attracted many famous people. Post-war,
President Eisenhower was gifted access to and the use of
apartments at the beautiful Culzean castle. More recently,
another President—President Trump, although he was known as
Donald at the time—secured the Turnberry hotel and golf
course. I thank his son Eric for the investment in this
world-class facility and for securing its future and the
associated employment.
We were home to Sir William Arrol, who resided at Seafield
House in Ayr. More recently, that was a children’s
hospital, where Dr John McClure MBE was the senior
paediatrician for many years. Sir William Arrol was the
engineer responsible for building the Forth rail bridge—I
nearly said road bridge, but that is not the case—the
gantries at Harland and Wolff in Belfast, where the
infamous or famous ship, the Titanic, was built; and Tower
bridge here in London.
This being an Ayrshire constituency, it would be remiss of
me not to mention Scotland’s bard, Robert Burns, who was
born at Alloway—the ploughman poet, whose fondness for
women is renowned. The women were far more fertile than the
fields he ploughed, producing numerous offspring, and I am
sure he would have faced immense challenges from the Child
Support Agency.
But his passion went far beyond the fairer sex, and he
penned many poems and songs, with lines such as
“Ye banks and braes o’ bonnie Doon”.
From its source at Loch Doon, the River Doon gently winds
its way past Dalmellington, Waterside, Patna, Polnessan,
Dalrymple, Alloway and finally to the Firth of Clyde at the
aptly named Doonfoot.
There is also “Afton Water”:
“Flow gently, sweet Afton, among thy green braes”.
The River Afton gently winds its way past New Cumnock,
where I shall pause for a moment and mention the local
football team, Glenafton Athletic, better known as The
Glens, who, during the election campaign, won the Scottish
junior cup by beating nearby rivals Auchinleck Talbot. To
see New Cumnock bedecked in the team colours of red and
white, with virtually every home displaying them, and with
the lampposts adorned with bunting, was a credit to the
strength and community spirit of New Cumnock, and I commend
it for that and for the victory on the football park.
As we move onwards, we come to Cumnock, sometimes referred
to as Old Cumnock, which plays host to Emergency One (UK),
bespoke builders of fire appliances and emergency vehicles
that are used throughout the United Kingdom. I commend them
for their good work as they export—yes, I will use the word
“export”—from Cumnock in Scotland all over the United
Kingdom.
As we move on towards Ochiltree, I will stop for a moment
at Dumfries House. May I give immense thanks to His Royal
Highness Prince Charles for his involvement and, indeed,
vision in not only saving Dumfries House for the nation but
securing job opportunities in catering and tourism within
and, indeed, beyond the constituency? Ayr, Carrick and
Cumnock has a proud past. As the Member of Parliament for
that constituency, I will endeavour to do my best to secure
a promising future.
Finally, an extract from Robert Burns’s poem “To A Mouse”,
which may be reflected on by many parliamentarians from all
parties, whether past, present or future. It reads simply:
“The best-laid schemes o’ Mice an’ Men
Gang aft agley,
An’ lea’e us nought but grief an’ pain,
For promis’d joy!”
9.18 pm
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Neil O’Brien (Harborough) (Con)
It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for
Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock (Bill Grant). Before he spoke, he
promised me that he would make me look good. By speaking so
powerfully, so poetically and so brilliantly, he has
already broken his first political promise—so thanks a
bunch for that.
It is also a pleasure to follow my predecessor, Sir
. He was a brilliant
constituency MP for 25 years. He is independent-minded and
he is brave, but above all he is just an exceptionally nice
man. He will be missed in all parts of this House, and he
will be massively missed in our constituency.
It is an honour to represent the people of Harborough,
Oadby and Wigston in this House, and I would like to thank
them from the bottom of my heart for sending me here. There
are four really striking things about my constituency. The
first is the staggering amount of community and voluntary
work, whether it is local charities such as Rainbows,
LOROS, VAL or VASL; the award-winning work of Market
Harborough in Bloom, which is visible all over the town and
makes it beautiful; the strength of our local army, sea and
air cadets, with whom I celebrated Armed Forces Week just
the other day; or community campaigns such as the campaign
to save the children’s heart unit at Glenfield hospital,
which I support. The strength of our civic life is
incredibly visible from the briefest look at The Harborough
Mail or the Leicester Mercury, or by tuning into our
community radio station, Harborough FM. A huge number of
people in my constituency dedicate themselves to improving
the lot of their fellow citizens, and it is absolutely
inspiring.
The second striking thing about my constituency is the
strong culture of enterprise. There are now nearly 4,500
businesses in the constituency—a quarter more than in 2010.
There is simply nothing that the people in my constituency
cannot do well. From milk floats to jet engines, we have
made everything. Although we have heard speeches this
evening about the invention of powered flight in Scotland,
you will be relieved, Mr Speaker, to hear that we have
never tried to combine the jet engine and the milk float,
as that would lead to dangerous adventures, I think. My
constituency is famous for farming and food, and also for
textiles. One of its most famous family businesses,
Symingtons, actually managed to combine both of those
things, because one brother made soups which fattened us
all up, and the other brother made corsets with which to
constrain our bulging waistlines. You will agree, Mr
Speaker, that that is a very cunning business model. Given
the culture of small business, the have-a-go culture, and
the culture of enterprise in my constituency, I will work
to make sure that important initiatives such as the
Midlands Engine and the new industrial strategy work for
small business as well as big.
The third really important thing about my constituency is
the open and welcoming nature of the people. Perhaps that
is because we have been plugged into the global economy
ever since the Romans came and built the road that now
forms the eastern boundary of the constituency. I have to
tell you, Mr Speaker, that not all of that road is now
passable by car due to several centuries of disgraceful
underinvestment by the Vikings, Normans and Saxons, but
none the less, later on the canals came and put the
constituency back on the map. The fantastic staircase of
locks at Foxton Locks is a testament to the time when it
was the spaghetti junction on the M1 of its day. In more
recent decades, the constituency has welcomed people from
all over the world. Sometimes they have come with
absolutely nothing but the clothes on their backs,
particularly the Ugandan Asians who came and settled there
when they were fleeing from Idi Amin. Wherever they have
come from, they have often started brilliant businesses and
powered our economy forward. In our constituency, we have
very good relations between all the different communities,
and I will work to keep it that way.
The fourth and final thing, Mr Speaker—you will perhaps see
this coming—is of course that my constituency is strikingly
beautiful, from the well-kept gardens of Oadby, Wigston and
Market Harborough to the gently rolling countryside, it is
a lovely place to be. When we are walking near our home—me,
my wife Jemma, and our little daughter Florence—tramping
through the tall buttercups and the nice pink clover
flowers under the big Leicestershire skies, that is about
as close as it gets to heaven.
My constituency is a place of beauty, a place of
opportunity, and a place with a strong community, and I
want to keep it that way. To keep it beautiful, we have to
start by reforming our broken planning system. We have made
progress in recent years, and of course we must build more
houses, but too often at the moment our planning system
only builds resentment. It puts development in the wrong
places and does not match new housing with the necessary
infrastructure, and councillors and the community simply
have too few powers relative to developers.
To extend opportunity we have to focus on education. I grew
up in Huddersfield, went to a comprehensive, got to go to
Oxford and have ended up in this House. I want young people
in my constituency to have the same chances as I have had.
It simply cannot be right that school pupils in Harborough,
Oadby and Wigston get so much less funding than children in
identical circumstances in other areas. The new national
funding formula will start to address that injustice, and I
hope that the Government will press on with it as soon as
possible. I also want the forthcoming review of council
funding to address the wider underfunding of
Leicestershire.
To make the most of our community spirit, we have to make
sure that everyone in it is included. We are an ageing
society with more people living alone so loneliness is a
growing problem. I commend the work of the Commission on Loneliness and
the fantastic work being done by mainly community groups in
my constituency to address loneliness. I will get right
behind them.
I am an optimist by nature. Yes, we are in a global
economic race, but this country has better schools than
ever before and a brilliant culture of enterprise. Yes, we
are an ageing society, but I believe that, with more older
people and time to volunteer, we have the conditions for a
massive boom in our social and community life. Although
this country faces some challenges, I for one believe that
our best days still lie ahead.
9.26 pm
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Mr (Dumfries and Galloway)
(Con)
Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for giving me the opportunity
to speak in the Second Reading debate on this important
Bill. I look forward to working with colleagues from across
the House to improve the protections available to British
holidaymakers.
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Harborough
(Neil O’Brien) on his excellent maiden speech. I must also
express my appreciation for the advice and guidance I have
had both from hon. Members and from Officers of the House
as I take my first faltering steps in this place.
I must pay tribute to my predecessor, , who was elected in
2015. Richard did not have long in his role, but he made a
positive contribution in those two years and I wish him
very well for the future. I also pay tribute to , his predecessor, who served our region with
aplomb for 18 years, until 2015. Russell defeated the
Conservative candidate in 1997, riding on a Labour tidal
wave, if you remember those days. I do: I was standing in
Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale, John Major was going out
and was coming in. It was
a painful experience—this is sort of therapy for me
tonight. Poor old Russell came in on the Labour tidal wave,
only to go out in an SNP tsunami in 2015. We may not have
seen anything so dramatic at the polls in Scotland this
time, but the tide is rising for the Scottish Conservatives
and long may that continue.
I have the honour to represent the electors of Dumfries and
Galloway, which, measuring more than 2,500 square miles, is
the sixth largest constituency in the United Kingdom. From
Dumfries to Stranraer, it is a combination of rolling
farmland, sparkling waters and beautiful hills and forests.
It captures not only two and a half counties, but the
hearts of those who live there and all who visit.
Historically, Dumfries and Galloway is the birthplace of
John Paul Jones, the founding father of the American navy.
No President has visited us to thank us for that. There is
one at the moment with a golf course in the neighbouring
constituency to the north, but we are not holding our
breath. It is also the resting place of Scotland’s national
bard, Robert Burns—a fertile poet, as my hon. Friend the
Member for Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock (Bill Grant) has
covered in his excellent maiden speech. I will say no more
on that subject. Thanks to Kirkpatrick Macmillan, in 1840
Dumfries and Galloway gave the world the first bicycle,
which I see has really caught on in this city.
Today our industry is centred on agriculture, tourism,
forestry and food processing. In particular, the tourism
and farming industries are the bedrock of the local
economy, and are based around the small market towns of
Castle Douglas and Newton Stewart. My constituency is host
to some of the finest dairy herds in the United Kingdom,
some of the most expansive upland sheep farms in Scotland,
and of course the world-famous pedigree beef cow that is
the Belted Galloway.
Our tourism market is very important to our region, and we
look forward to welcoming old friends and new to treasures
such as the Scottish national book town of Wigtown, with
its excellent festival; the ports at Portpatrick and
Kirkcudbright, the latter also famous for its artists; and
the rugged scenery of the Galloway coastline and hills.
Our small communities are dependent on fishing, field
sports and walking tourism, but they are also dependent on
faster and wider broadband to develop home-grown
businesses, and that is something I seek to improve in my
new role.
I am well aware of my obligation to play my part in
sustaining those rural communities, but I must also
encourage economic development in the larger towns of
Stranraer and Dumfries. I was born in Dumfries so I know
well its issues. However, I also want to make a positive
impact in Stranraer, which has seen its ferry terminal move
five miles north to Cairnryan in recent years. That move
has resulted in many fewer visitors to the town, but they
are a resilient lot in Stranraer, with a wonderful
community spirit, and I intend to support them in their
regeneration efforts in every way possible. The biggest win
for them would be an upgrade of the A75 Euroroute from
Carlisle to Stranraer, something I have been telling the
hon. Member for East Antrim (Sammy Wilson), my neighbour
across the water. I hope that he has taken it on board.
That important economic artery has been ignored by
Scotland’s Government for far too long.
I would like to take this opportunity to send another
message to the Scottish Government. In the 2014
independence referendum, my constituents voted
overwhelmingly to remain in the United Kingdom. The
leadership of the SNP should respect that decision.
As we prepare to leave the European Union, it is the task
of us all in this House, and in all corners of our great
country, to ensure that the United Kingdom goes forward
economically, socially, and constitutionally, as one
nation. To that end, I look forward to working with my
neighbours on both sides of the border, to bring forward
the borderland growth deal for the economic benefit of the
whole of the north of England and the whole of the south of
Scotland.
In conclusion, I thank the House for the consideration that
it has shown to me this evening. I would add only that I am
proud to have been elected to represent Dumfries and
Galloway; proud to be one of a baker’s dozen of Scottish
Conservatives returned to Westminster; and proud that we
have turned the tables and imposed a Conservative
Government on the English! [Laughter.]
9.33 pm
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(Milton Keynes South)
(Con)
It is a pleasure to make a brief contribution to this
debate and to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Dumfries
and Galloway (Mr Jack) and all the other hon. Members on
both sides of the House who have made wonderful maiden
speeches today. Indeed, I wonder whether their eloquence in
painting pictures of the treasures of their constituencies
has made the Bill irrelevant. Who would want to travel
abroad when we have such an array of treasures in these
isles? For some inconceivable reason, people will still
wish to holiday overseas so the Bill is incredibly
important.
As we have heard, the way people book their holidays and
travel has changed remarkably. Not that long ago, people
would toddle off down to the travel agent and book a
fortnight in Lanzarote or Torremolinos—whatever was their
destination of choice—as one package, and that was it.
People now mix and match using the internet to add on all
sorts of different parts of their holiday, and it is
important to upgrade the regulation—the valuable ATOL
scheme that has been in place for many years—to reflect
those changes. The market will continue to evolve, so it is
absolutely right for the Bill to set a general framework
for the new legislation that can then be augmented by
specific regulation. It was a pleasure to serve with the
Minister, the shadow Secretary of State and other Members
on the Public Bill Committee in the previous Parliament. I
am glad that today we are revisiting those provisions.
I will make one very brief point, which I made when I
intervened on the Minister’s opening speech. It is
important to have the detailed regulations in place as soon
as possible. The hon. Member for Plymouth, Sutton and
Devonport (Luke Pollard), who made an excellent speech and
who is very knowledgeable in these matters, echoed that
point. The industry has to plan 12 to 18 months ahead and
it is anxious that we get the regulation in place as soon
as possible, so that people booking holidays today for that
period ahead can have the coverage and protection the
scheme should provide. I will support the Bill on Second
Reading tonight, but I hope the Minister will address that
point in Committee. Regulation must be in place as speedily
as possible.
9.35 pm
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(Torbay) (Con)
It is quite something to be the last Back Bencher called in
a debate where we have had, I think, nine maiden speeches
back-to-back. We are ending with one of the old regulars.
One point I would make to new Members is that when I
arrived two years ago I was told to find a nice quiet spot
from which to speak. They can see the spot I decided to
pick: directly opposite the then 56 Scottish National party
Members. There are now slightly fewer of them.
I represent Torbay, which is a great area for tourism.
Indeed, I struggle to think why anyone would not want to
enjoy our beaches and our history. It is one of the most
beautiful constituencies in the whole country. It is right,
however, if people do go abroad, that there are important
protections—the ATOL regulations—in place.
One point made in a number of interventions is that the
market has changed massively since the start of ATOL. It is
likely to change again so it is important that our
regulatory system is kept up to date. I therefore welcome
the Bill. A lot of Members mentioned their birthplaces. I
enjoyed the speech made by the hon. Member from my own
birthplace, the hon. Member for Plymouth, Sutton and
Devonport (Luke Pollard). I was born in Freedom Fields,
which he will know, and it was interesting to hear the
points he made. This is a changing market, where the travel
agent with a selection of brochures has been replaced by a
smart phone with an app that connects people immediately
with a site that can sell them everything, but not
necessarily a package holiday. It is important that we keep
up to date and it is right that changes are made.
Reference was made to the origin of package holidays, which
can be traced back to a temperance meeting. Sadly, one of
the earliest package holidays arranged by entrepreneurs out
of Torbay was a trip to a public hanging in Exeter, with a
trip to the races thrown in on the way back. There was a
slight problem, however. The individual concerned was
reprieved and spent 30 years in jail, which rather ruined
their plans.
It is right that we have talked about the importance of
making sure that British travel agents can compete in a
market place larger than their own. I therefore welcome the
changes that will mean it is the place where they are
established that governs what system they are related to,
rather than from where the first flight departs, which is
the current situation under the ATOL regulations.
Realistically, firms will want to sell different flights
and different packages, and not be constrained by the point
of origin. I hope that travellers will see the benefits of
booking through British and UK-based travel agents, knowing
that they have the certainty of a scheme, supported by a
large pot, that has worked well for over 40 years. I do not
normally rush to favour extending taxation powers, but it
is appropriate that clause 1 provides the ability to extend
tax-raising powers to those selling direct to consumers in
a European Economic Area country, rather than just those in
the UK.
This has been a fascinating debate. I feel like I have been
on a tour of various parts of the United Kingdom, with the
all the maiden speeches we have heard, in a debate on
people taking trips abroad to see what is on offer over
there.
I certainly think that this Bill is worthy of its Second
Reading. There are clearly points to go over in Committee,
but the protections to ensure that nobody will be stuck
abroad without being able to return are welcome. It is
right that industry should bear the cost of that rather
than the UK taxpayer, which would be the case if we allowed
the current system to continue and did not reform it in the
way suggested. It will make a real difference, and I look
forward to seeing the Bill progress into Committee.
9.40 pm
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(Kingston upon Hull East)
(Lab)
This has been an excellent debate, in which we have had 22
Members speak and no less than 13 maiden speeches. There
have been too many to mention, but the contributions have
been truly excellent, in what has been a non-contentious
debate, given that the Opposition agree with the
Government’s position. As my hon. Friend the Member for
Middlesbrough (Andy McDonald) stated at the outset of the
debate, the Opposition are not opposed to the Bill; indeed,
we are broadly very supportive of it. There are, however,
some concerns about the impact of some provisions, so we
want to press the Government on some issues.
The Bill will bring ATOL up to date and ensure that it is
harmonised with the latest EU package travel directive,
extending coverage to a wider range of holidays and
protecting more consumers, as well as allowing UK travel
companies to sell more seamlessly across Europe. Labour
welcomes the extensions, which will ultimately help to
protect more holidaymakers, but we want clarity on how UK
consumers will be protected by EU-based companies, as they
will no longer be subject to ATOL, but to member state
equivalents.
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(Strangford) (DUP)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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If the hon. Gentleman does not mind, I will not give way at
this stage. I am hoping to mention some of the wonderful
maiden speeches if I have time later.
The implications of ATOL after Brexit are also a cause for
concern. Hidden in the Bill are proposals that the
Secretary of State will require only the affirmative
resolution procedure to significantly reform ATOL and the
air travel trust fund. Labour recognises the merits of some
reforms, but we believe that an impact assessment, full
consultation and full scrutiny will be required before any
fundamental changes are made to this well-respected
consumer protection. These issues bring to the forefront
uncertainties about the future of UK aviation following the
decision to leave the European Union. Labour has been clear
that whichever framework is chosen, the Government should
prioritise retaining an essentially unchanged operating
environment.
In conclusion, the Labour party broadly supports the Bill,
as it will extend protections to many more holidaymakers.
However, we want clarity on how EU-based companies—which
will no longer be subject to ATOL, but rather to their
respective member states’ equivalents—will provide
protections to UK consumers. We are committed to securing
the best possible framework to ensure that the sector
flourishes, but this means adequately preparing ourselves
for the many implications that Brexit will have for ATOL
and our aviation sector as a whole.
Given that I have a few minutes, I want to mention some of
the maiden speakers, kicking off with the hon. Member for
Redditch (Rachel Maclean). She spoke very passionately
about her constituency and the fact that her daughter Ruth
encouraged her to stand and continue the long tradition of
Redditch electing women to Parliament. That was an
excellent move, because her speech was extremely well
received and very good. She also spoke warmly of her
immediate predecessor, , who retired from this
place due to ill health. We send our very wishes to her
from all parts of the House. The hon. Lady also mentioned
her predecessor , who was the first
woman Home Secretary from this place.
The hon. Member for Chelmsford (Vicky Ford) eloquently
described the need for consumer protections in this area.
She spoke with great knowledge about the EU and the
importance of these consumer protections given that we are
leaving the EU. I understand that the hon. Lady is a Member
of the European Parliament.
My hon. Friend the Member for Crewe and Nantwich (Laura
Smith) spoke with great pride about representing the
constituency in which she had been raised. She also spoke
about the very important issue of gender inequality and the
pay gap, and the injustice represented by the WASPI women.
The hon. Member for East Renfrewshire (Paul Masterton)
rightly used his opportunity to right the wrong of
forgetting to mention his wife in his general election
acceptance speech. The hon. Member for North East
Derbyshire (Lee Rowley) spoke with great passion about the
constituency in which he grew up, and also spoke very
warmly about his predecessor, our very own , who is greatly missed
here. My hon. Friend the Member for Weaver Vale (Mike
Amesbury) spoke with great passion about his constituency
as well, and also, very cleverly, mentioned his wife,
referring to the fact that she had been born and bred in
Runcorn.
The hon. Member for Clacton (Giles Watling) was, I have to
say, very entertaining. He was, I understand, an actor, but
he said that this was probably a more interesting theatre.
If I remember rightly, he appeared in “Bread”, which I
recall watching as a kid. That, of course, was the comedy
series about a family in Liverpool who had suffered a
terrible time under the Thatcher Government.
The hon. Member for Isle of Wight (Mr Seely) spoke with
great passion about notable people in his constituency—too
many to mention—but he also decried the privatisation of
the ferry service, and many Labour Members would probably
agree with him. The hon. Member for Stirling (Stephen Kerr)
spoke with great passion about his constituency too,
especially when referring to the wonderful shortbread and
whisky. The hon. Member for Walsall North (Eddie Hughes)
spoke about a very serious issue: the fact that nearly one
in four of his constituents do not own a passport, and the
importance of the Bill in protecting people who spend an
awful lot of their hard-earned money on holidays and expect
to be protected by legislation.
The hon. Member for Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock (Bill Grant)
spoke of the terrible tragedy that is Grenfell Tower,
having had a great deal of experience as a long-standing
fire officer. I am sure that the House will benefit from
his expertise in that area, and in others.
The hon. Member for Harborough (Neil O’Brien) told us how
innovative his constituents were, making everything from
jet engines to milk floats. He also mentioned the Commission on Loneliness, and
said that he would support it. All of us, in all parts of
the House, would be grateful for that support. Last but not
least among the maiden speakers, the hon. Member for
Dumfries and Galloway (Mr Jack) also spoke about innovation
in his constituency, in which the first bicycle was
created.
The Bill is not particularly contentious, and Labour
supports the Government’s efforts to legislate in this
regard.
9.48 pm
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Transport
(Jesse Norman)
It is an honour to be able to close the Second Reading debate
on the Bill. When I first looked at the Order Paper and saw
that we had six and a half hours in which to debate a Bill
consisting of four clauses, I quailed slightly and my heart
sank for a second, but I put it to the House that tonight has
been an absolute triumph. I have enjoyed every speech: it has
been simply marvellous.
My hon. Friend the Member for Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock (Bill
Grant) cited, in the context of a number of maiden speeches,
the maiden who seduced Robbie Burns himself, and, moreover,
mentioned Burns’s famous poem “To a Mouse”, which, as the
House will know, begins—I will not do the accent—
“Wee, sleekit, cowran, tim’rous beastie,
O, what a panic's in thy breastie!”
I was tempted to think that none of the new Members could
count as a
“sleekit, cowran, tim’rous beastie”
and that the panic was likely to be in the Labour breastie.
Therefore, it has been a delight. It has been less a
parliamentary debate than an episode of “Britain’s Got
Talent”, with dazzling speeches and new voices—especially,
may I say with delight, Scottish voices from my side of the
House, a rare and delightful occurrence. We have lost great
colleagues across the House, but this evening has brought
home to us what absolute legends we have received instead.
We have had an extremely useful debate and I warmly thank all
those who have taken part, including the many Members on both
sides of the House who have made their maiden speeches. As
the debate has made clear, this is not a Bill that is
politically charged or partisan. We are collectively seeking
to act in the interest of the UK businesses that sell
holidays, and in particular in the interest of the travelling
public who wish to enjoy those holidays free of care. This
may not be the largest of Bills when measured in terms of the
number of its clauses, but it is a very large Bill when
measured by its potential to bring peace of mind to people in
every constituency throughout the UK.
That reassurance is what the ATOL scheme was originally
created to provide, when it was set up in 1973. Today, not
only does it help to prevent rogue traders from entering the
market, but it provides important protection to consumers in
the event that their travel organiser should fail. It has
provided effective protection to consumers for over 40 years
and it is well regarded both by those who use it and by the
travel sector itself.
Consumer protection is an important pillar of the holiday
sector owing to the nature of the market. Holidays are
frequently booked and paid for many months in advance of
travel, and the consumer may often be unaware of the
financial stability, or instability, of their holiday
providers. The impacts from the failure of a travel company
can be grievous. Consumers may face a serious financial loss
from not receiving a refund, or from the cost of having to
make alternative arrangements to get home. Even worse, they
may experience the trauma, heartache and sheer inconvenience
of a cancelled holiday, or of being stranded abroad without
accommodation or a ticket back.
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I thank the Minister for his response to the issue that we
face. He will be aware that, for many holidaymakers and
travellers, delayed and cancelled flights are an issue. Does
the legislation that he is bringing forward address the issue
for people who are in that very difficult position, whether
domestically, in Europe or further afield?
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I am not quite sure I have taken the point the hon. Gentleman
has raised. If it is about Brexit, I am not expecting this to
change at all. He would be welcome to put the question again
if we had more time, but I am afraid I will have to move on.
I apologise for that.
The ATOL scheme provides important protection in these
situations. It ensures that, if an ATOL holder fails, its
customers are able to continue their holiday and return home,
or that they will not lose out on the money paid if they are
yet to travel. Fortunately, the failure of travel companies
is relatively rare, but it does happen. In the last financial
year alone, 19 ATOL holders collapsed. In each of those
situations, the Civil Aviation Authority had to step in to
deliver the appropriate protection to consumers through the
scheme.
Many colleagues will be aware of the recent failure of the
Spanish online travel agent, the Lowcost Travelgroup. When
that business failed last summer, it was reported that there
were 27,000 customers on holiday and over 100,000 customers
who were yet to travel. Although many of those customers were
from the UK, the company did not have ATOL protection as it
was regulated under the Spanish regime. The collapse of
companies such as that is an important reminder of the need
to ensure that consumer protection keeps pace with the way
people book their holidays. The huge growth in online booking
means that customers have a much wider choice of providers,
including those based overseas. Yet it is clear from the
low-cost holiday situation that not every travel provider is
covered by the same level of protection, and inconsistencies
apply across borders. That is why we have already begun to
take steps to update the ATOL scheme and bring it into line
with modern trade practices.
The Minister of State for transport, legislation and
maritime, my right hon. Friend the Member for South Holland
and The Deepings (Mr Hayes), has already mentioned in his
opening remarks the legislative changes that we made to ATOL
in 2012. These introduced the flight-plus category, to bring
ATOL protection to the many consumers who book mix-and-match
holidays online, in addition to those who buy traditional
package holidays on the high street. The then Government also
introduced the ATOL certificate, so that consumers know when
they have booked an ATOL-protected holiday, and who to
contact if their travel provider fails. We believe these
interventions have had a positive impact for consumers and
many businesses. Not only have we seen an increase in the
number of protected consumers, but the changes have also
helped to level the playing field between online and high
street businesses.
For similar reasons, we have also been working with the
European Commission and EU member states since 2012 to ensure
that the European regulations are also brought up to date.
The original package travel directive was agreed in 1990, and
its provisions were introduced into UK law through the
package travel regulations of 1992. As my right hon. Friend
said earlier, the ATOL scheme is a crucial means by which UK
businesses can meet their obligations to have insolvency
protection under the EU directive.
The EU and UK package travel regulations have contributed
significantly to consumer protection rights since their
introduction. However, those regulations were originally
designed for a world where people booked their pre-prepared
package holidays through a high street travel agent or tour
operator. The regulations thus pre-date the growth in the
internet, where people are able to create their own informal
packages online. As the House well knows, the internet has
since become a vast travel marketplace, providing
opportunities for consumers and businesses. Indeed, we heard
at the start of the debate that around 75% of UK holidays are
now booked online.
That being the case, it is important that regulations and
consumer protections are able to keep pace with major changes
in the marketplace. That is why a new package travel
directive was finally agreed across Europe in December 2015.
The UK Government have supported the rationale for updating
the directive, in order to bring greater clarity on what
constitutes a package holiday in today’s marketplace and to
improve and harmonise protection across the continent. The
updated package travel directive will do just that: it brings
protection across the rest of Europe closer to the model we
have operated since we updated ATOL in 2012. Once again, the
UK is leading in Europe; that is good news for consumers.
Overall, it will mean consumers will see insolvency
protection extended to cover a broader range of holidays. In
particular, it has updated the definition of a package
holiday, so that an informal package booked online will need
to be protected in the same way as a traditional package
holiday booked on the high street.
As has been noted, it also brings a new concept of “linked
travel arrangements” into the scope of protection. Like a
package holiday, these involve a combination of at least two
different types of travel services purchased together for the
purpose of a holiday. However, those arrangements are looser,
involving the separate selection and payment of each travel
service, and separate contracts with different travel service
providers. Linked travel arrangements will not be protected
to the same level as a package holiday; however, under
certain conditions, a refund or repatriation will apply.
There should also be benefits to business. A harmonised
approach will help to level the playing field, with the same
rules applying for businesses across the EU selling similar
products. This harmonised approach will also help to remove
barriers for UK businesses that want to trade across borders.
Concerns have been raised about air passenger rights when the
UK leaves the EU. The Government are committed to delivering
an orderly withdrawal and are preparing to introduce
legislation that will preserve the EU acquis on the domestic
statute book for the time being. The Government are also
seeking to have UK consumers continue to enjoy the strong
protections and effective consumer regime that they currently
enjoy both inside and outside the EU.
Today, we are taking forward the ATOL Bill to harmonise our
domestic regulations with the changes coming in across the EU
in 2018. As the House has heard from my right hon. Friend the
Minister, the Bill will update the ATOL powers to align them
with the scope of the directive. It is a fine piece of work,
and I commend it to the House.
Question put and agreed to.
Bill accordingly read a Second time.
Air Travel Organisers’ Licensing Bill (Programme)
Motion made, and Question put forthwith (Standing Order No.
83A(7)),
That the following provisions shall apply to the Air Travel
Organisers’ Licensing Bill:
Committal
(1) The Bill shall be committed to a Committee of the whole
House.
Proceedings in Committee, on Consideration and up to and
including Third Reading
(2) Proceedings in Committee, any proceedings on
Consideration and any proceedings in legislative grand
committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be
brought to a conclusion two hours after the commencement of
proceedings in Committee of the whole House.
(3) Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not
previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion three hours
after the commencement of proceedings in Committee of the
whole House.
(4) Standing Order No. 83B (Programming committees) shall not
apply to proceedings in Committee of the whole House, to any
proceedings on Consideration or to other proceedings up to
and including Third Reading.
Other proceedings
(5) Any other proceedings on the Bill may be
programmed.—(Mike Freer.)
Question agreed to.
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