North Sea Oil and Gas Kirsty Blackman (Aberdeen North) (SNP)
1. What recent discussions he has had with trade bodies and
companies involved in extracting oil and gas from the North sea.
[900016] The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Richard Harrington) My
Department is in regular contact with the oil...Request free trial
North Sea Oil and Gas
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(Aberdeen North)
(SNP)
1. What recent discussions he has had with trade bodies and
companies involved in extracting oil and gas from the North
sea. [900016]
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Richard Harrington)
My Department is in regular contact with the oil and gas
industry. As hon. Members will be aware, my predecessor, my
hon. Friend the Member for Hereford and South Herefordshire
(Jesse Norman), met industry representatives regularly,
both in London and in Aberdeen. On 23 March the Oil and Gas
Authority awarded licences for 111 blocks to enable
exploration and production across frontier areas—the first
licensing round to focus on frontier areas in two decades.
I look forward to continuing this relationship, which is
very important for jobs and the wider economy. Indeed, in
my first week in post I attended a reception at Imperial
College London and met several companies and trade bodies
in the field.
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I thank the Minister for that answer and warmly welcome him
to his new post. In 2016 the Chancellor announced that
action would be taken to improve the tax regime for
late-life asset transfers. In the 2017 Budget he
re-announced the same policy, but now an expert panel is to
be set up. Can the Minister let me know how many times the
expert panel has met so far, and when we can expect the
outcomes of its deliberations to be made public, as it says
they will be on the gov.uk website?
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I thank the hon. Lady for that question. She and I have
worked together in previous roles, and I look forward to
visiting Aberdeen, where hopefully she will be able to
explain this further. As far as late-life assets are
concerned, we realise how important it is to get this
right, and not just for the jobs and tax revenue, but for
generating further investment. The discussion paper and the
panel of experts are considering this. We look forward to
hearing a wide range of views and will report our findings
at the autumn Budget.
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(Preseli Pembrokeshire)
(Con)
The Minister will be aware that over the past decade Qatar
has become an increasingly important source of gas for the
UK, not least from imports of liquefied natural gas through
my constituency. What steps is he taking to ensure that the
current diplomatic crisis in the Gulf affecting Qatar does
not lead to any disruption of energy supply into the UK?
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As my right hon. Friend will be aware, the Government are
monitoring the situation very carefully, and we do not
believe that it will make any difference whatsoever to
liquefied gas supplies.
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(Inverness, Nairn,
Badenoch and Strathspey) (SNP)
I welcome the Minister to his new post. Getting back to the
North sea, the kind of action described by my hon. Friend
the Member for Aberdeen North (Kirsty Blackman) is vital,
especially to help along the return optimism. The Scottish
Government have invested £5 million to explore
decommissioning opportunities in oil and gas that could
grow many new jobs. When will we get action from the UK
Government, and when will we see a robust and comprehensive
future energy strategy from the UK Government?
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As the hon. Gentleman will be aware, the Government have
been very actively involved in funding seismic surveys and
the 3D visualisation centre at Heriot-Watt University. I am
looking forward to the next licensing round and to dealing
with the strategy he mentioned. I should mention the Kraken
development, which the Government have supported, because
the first barrels of oil were produced last week, and we
look forward to there being 50,000 barrels a day at peak.
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The fact is that the UK Government have been slow to
realise the potential of decommissioning, pulled funding
from vital carbon capture and storage pipeline projects,
failed adequately to address the drop in renewable energy
investment and plunged public funds into risky and
poor-value nuclear power projects against the advice of
experts. When will this Government wake up and take our
energy opportunities seriously?
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I am afraid that I must completely disagree with the hon.
Gentleman’s view of things. We are committed to supporting
the development of a decommissioning industry. I think that
there are significant opportunities. We are currently
considering options for the delivery of a port and yard,
and we will continue to engage closely with all relevant
stakeholders as we develop our options.
Leaving the EU
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(Bury St Edmunds)
(Con)
2. What steps he has taken to consult businesses on the
process of the UK leaving the EU. [900017]
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The Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy (Greg Clark)
Since the referendum, I have held discussions with
businesses, workers and local leaders across the UK, and
investors all around the world. These will continue over
the coming months, including my weekly meetings with the
directors general of the five main business organisations.
The Government are creating a new EU exit business advisory
group to ensure that business is not only heard, but that
it is influential throughout the negotiations.
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My particular interest is in the UK’s life science sector,
which is worth some £30 billion to the economy and involves
nearly half a million jobs, many of which are in my
constituency of Bury St Edmunds. Will the Secretary of
State tell me how he will ensure that there is continued
support to this vital leading research and science sector
as we leave the EU?
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I will indeed. My hon. Friend is a great champion of the
sector. In our negotiations, we want to ensure that we can
continue these successful collaborations, as well as making
further investment in the future of research through our
industrial strategy. The House may be interested to know
that I can announce today that the Government’s commitment
to underwrite the UK’s fair share for the Joint European
Torus costs—the leading nuclear fusion facility in
Oxfordshire, supporting 1,300 jobs—will be made. The
facility is funded through a contract between the European
Commission and the UK Atomic Energy Authority. In making
this commitment, the Government hope to provide the
certainty and reassurance needed for a mutually beneficial
extension of the contract.
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Mr (Exeter) (Lab)
All the five business organisations to which the Secretary
of State refers have come out against the Prime Minister’s
extreme and damaging Brexit. What is he personally doing to
ensure that the Prime Minister not only hears what they are
saying, but listens to it?
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The right hon. Gentleman will know that the five business
organisations have put forward a sensible set of principles
to govern the transition and the shape of a final
agreement. Those suggestions seem very sensible. Part of
the point of engaging with business, as I do rigorously and
frequently, is to ensure that that voice is heard.
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(Bromley and
Chislehurst) (Con)
One of the important principles that those business
organisations have stressed is the essential nature of
having contractual and legal certainty for those who are
entering into legal obligations so that they know that that
will continue to be enforceable once we leave the EU. Will
the Secretary of State therefore ensure that particular
regard is had to the need for transition periods to be
based on the reality of business practice, rather than on
arbitrary considerations?
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My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. If he has the
continued privilege to chair the Select Committee on
Justice, I am sure that it will provide some help in this.
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(Leeds West)
(Lab)
Many businesses are particularly concerned about additional
checks on trade imports and exports if we leave the customs
union. Can the Secretary of State give businesses any
reassurance at all that there will not be additional checks
if and when we leave the customs union?
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I have always been clear, as have the Government, that we
want not only no tariffs, but no bureaucratic impediments
of the type described by the hon. Lady. That is one of the
objectives set out by the business organisations. As she
knows, the negotiations have just started, but we are clear
that that is our objective.
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Mr (North East
Somerset) (Con)
Will my right hon. Friend be asking businesses to list the
most egregious and restrictive EU directives that may be
removed once we leave in order to make British business
more competitive and efficient?
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I am sure that my hon. Friend will be an assiduous
contributor to the scrutiny of the repeal Bill. The
approach is to transfer into UK law that which was part of
EU law precisely so that this House can scrutinise and
consider what should be continued.
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(Sefton Central)
(Lab)
The Government said yesterday that EU citizens will be able
to apply for what they called “settled status”, so that
they can continue to live and work in the UK. Application
processes can be time-consuming, not to mention
complicated, expensive and off-putting, especially when
this Government are involved. How can the Secretary of
State guarantee that all EU nationals working in the UK
will be allowed to stay not just in theory but in practice,
to the benefit of the many businesses that rely on EU
workers?
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I welcome the hon. Gentleman back to his place. In fact, I
think that Labour’s whole Front-Bench team has been
reappointed. It is nice to see loyalty rewarded. The hon.
Gentleman is absolutely right, and I thought that he would
welcome the Prime Minister’s very positive statement. It is
important that the process is implemented with no
bureaucracy so that people can apply with confidence.
Construction Industry: Cash Retentions
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(Cumbernauld,
Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East) (SNP)
3. What his policy is on the non-release or late release of
cash retentions in the construction industry. [900018]
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Margot James)
Unjustified late and non-payment of a retention payment or
any amount owed is unacceptable. These practices cause
particular problems for small businesses in the
construction sector, and the Government are committed to
tackling them. We will shortly be publishing research into
these issues, alongside a consultation document.
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The system of cash retentions has been wreaking havoc in
the construction industry for decades. Can the Minister
assure us that there will soon be radical action to
overhaul the system, and can she explain why it has taken
so long?
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There is, indeed, far too much abuse of the system of cash
retention, and it has been going on for too long. The
burden of administrative time spent securing payments and
the drain on working capital weigh far too heavily on
smaller firms in the supply chain, and I can assure the
hon. Gentleman that we will be taking action.
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(Chesterfield)
(Lab)
If the Government had only listened in 2015 to the
amendments the Labour party tabled to the Small Business,
Enterprise and Employment Bill, we would already have a
solution. We were told then that the Government were going
to take action. We were told again a few months ago that
they were taking action with their proposals about naming
and shaming businesses that did not publish their late
payments. We now have yet another consultation. Research
from Crossflow Payments shows that 74% of small businesses
do not believe that the Government’s recent changes will
make any difference. Can we have a policy that actually
enforces action on late payments, rather than the series of
consultations that we have had?
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I agree that action is needed, but it is important that we
take the right action. We have undertaken a consultation,
the results of which will be published shortly. That will
be followed by a consultation on the 2011 changes to the
Housing Grants, Construction and Regeneration Act 1996,
which will consider the merits of ring-fencing retentions
and the extent to which contractors are making the payment
of retentions conditional on the performance of obligations
under other, completely separate contracts.
Electric Cars
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(Stafford) (Con)
4. What steps he is taking to ensure that the electric grid
is able to support the charging of the number of electric
cars estimated to be in use by 2020. [900019]
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The Minister of State, Department for Business, Energy and
Industrial Strategy (Claire Perry)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on his pathfinding work in
this area. I understand he is a proud owner of a Nissan
Leaf—an electric vehicle made in the UK. He will therefore
know that this is an exceptionally important point for us.
I am very proud of the Government’s ambition for almost all
cars on our roads to be zero-emissions by 2050, and also of
our success in positioning the UK as a leading destination
for the manufacture of and research into these vehicles. He
will be reassured to know that good progress is being made
with grid-readiness, and the upcoming smart systems plan
and the automated and electric vehicles Bill will ensure
that electric vehicle demands are managed efficiently, and
the roll-out of electric vehicles is accelerated.
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I thank the Minister for her response, and I am glad to
hear that, because a study of the impact of electric
vehicles on the UK’s distribution network has estimated
that
“voltage imbalances, coupled with overloaded distribution
transformers could…impair power lines.”
How quickly can we have a report on that, given that the
usage of such vehicles is likely to rise substantially in
the coming years?
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I think my hon. Friend is right. With policies to really
accelerate the usage of electric vehicles, this is a
critical thing. He will know that Ofgem has approved
business plans for the local network companies, which
already bake in billions of pounds of investment, to ensure
that the expected demands on the grid can be met. But,
equally, it is not just about raw investment in cables; it
is actually about changing consumers’ behaviour to ensure
they can charge their vehicles at a time that puts least
demand on the grid and perhaps saves them money. I refer
back to our plan and to the Bill, which will enable smart
charging and help people to charge their vehicles at a time
when it puts least demand on the network.
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Mr Speaker
It all sounds very exciting, I must say.
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Mr (Huddersfield)
(Lab/Co-op)
Does the Minister ever worry that the country looks like
investing £100 billion in High Speed 2, which will open at
the earliest in 2033, but that, by that time, we will be
able to use our phone to call to our home a driverless
Uber-type vehicle powered by electricity that can take us
anywhere in the country? Is that £100 billion not wasted
money?
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I would define seeing you in an electric vehicle, Mr
Speaker, as a success in my new role. We can have a
conversation afterwards.
The hon. Gentleman will know that I think that upgrading
our rail and road networks is one way to reduce congestion
on the roads and to open up business opportunities and
create potential new capacity for things such as electric
rail freight, which has been severely neglected by
successive Governments over many years. That is why we want
to position ourselves not only as a leading manufacturer of
electric vehicles—one in five electric vehicles sold in the
EU are made in Britain—but as a hub for innovation. We are
putting millions of pounds into innovation studies and
research, to see how those new technologies can work
together to ultimately achieve the aim of zero emissions by
2050.
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(Eddisbury)
(Con)
Electric vehicles are a vital part of meeting our climate
change commitments. Can the Minister update us on further
action to tackle climate change after the USA’s repudiation
of the Paris agreement?
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I thank my hon. Friend for that valuable question. I was
delighted to be sent, on almost the first day in the job,
to Luxembourg to meet our EU counterparts to discuss the
fact that we are all very disappointed with Mr Trump’s
decision to withdraw the US from the Paris agreement, and
accept that more work needs to be done by the remaining
countries to emphasise that Paris is non-negotiable,
although we would like him to come back to the agreement. I
was also personally able to increase the level of UK
funding for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
trust fund, across the board with other European friends
and neighbours, to ensure that any reduction of USA funding
can be met.
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(Ynys Môn) (Lab)
May I welcome the hon. Lady to her new position and,
indeed, Front-Bench Members, new and old, to their roles?
Can we have proper local accountability and ownership of
local community grids, so that we break the monopolies of
the distribution companies, which make masses of money and
do not always reinvest?
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The hon. Gentleman raises an incredibly valuable point
about how we start to move ourselves away from generating
emissions in the heating and lighting sector. He will be
pleased to know that I was able to put more innovation
funding into trials that are doing exactly that.
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Already!
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As the hon. Gentleman knows, I like to do these things
seriously. We are already funding pilots to see how
peer-to-peer exchange of power can work, and how further to
improve community generation and storage of energy.
Thames Gateway: SMEs
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(Dartford)
(Con)
5. What steps he is taking to support the growth of small
and medium-sized businesses in the Thames Gateway. [900021]
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Margot James)
Supporting small business is a crucial part of our
industrial strategy. The Government are investing in the
Thames Gateway, including through the local growth fund and
the new lower Thames crossing. We will continue to work
with industry and local authorities in the Thames Gateway
to create the conditions for all businesses to thrive.
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The lack of connectivity between Kent and Essex frustrates
commerce between those two counties. The lower Thames
crossing will help with that, but it will take some years
for it to be built. Will the Minister use that time to work
with local businesses in the area to unlock its huge
potential, which has yet to be fully realised?
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The lower Thames crossing is due to open in 2025. In the
meantime, local growth hubs will continue to deliver
support services to help businesses in the area to grow
over that period. In addition, almost half of the South
East local enterprise partnership funding of £274 million
is directly supporting growth in north Kent and south Essex
by improving transport infrastructure, addressing skills
needs and creating new business spaces.
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(East Ham) (Lab)
The Minister will know that one of the strengths of the
Thames Gateway is the closeness of connections elsewhere in
Europe, and one of the worries that small and medium-sized
businesses have is whether they will be able to continue to
recruit staff from other EU countries after Brexit. Will
she acknowledge the strength of concerns of firms in the
Thames Gateway, and can she offer them any reassurance
about the prospects after Brexit?
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Having travelled around the country talking to many
businesses over the past year, I acknowledge those concerns
in the Thames Gateway area. However, I was reassured—I hope
the right hon. Gentleman was, too—by the Prime Minister’s
opening contribution to the negotiations last week and the
reassurance she offered many hundreds of thousands of EU
citizens currently residing in the UK, including those
working in the right hon. Gentleman’s area.
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(West
Dunbartonshire) (SNP)
rose—
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Mr Speaker
Order. The hon. Gentleman is an estimable fellow, but West
Dunbartonshire is a considerable distance from the Thames
Gateway. Knowing the intellectual eclecticism of the hon.
Gentleman, I think he may have a pertinent inquiry and I am
absolutely fascinated to discover whether that is the case.
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Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Businesses—those in the Thames Gateway, along with those in
West Dunbartonshire—require confidence in those who form
Governments and in those who support them. Does the
Minister agree that that requires transparency? Will he
call on every political party in Northern Ireland to now
publish fully everything in terms of the political
donations and campaigns they are involved in?
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Mr Speaker
No, that is manifestly out of order. The hon. Gentleman, I
think, was more interested in what he had to say to the
Minister than in anything the Minister might have said to
him.
Gas Storage Facilities
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(Stoke-on-Trent
Central) (Lab/Co-op)
6. What estimate his Department has made of the future
level of investment required in the UK’s gas storage
facilities. [900022]
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Richard Harrington)
There has been significant investment in the UK’s natural
gas supply infrastructure over the past decade. It is
highly complex, because we benefit from highly diverse and
flexible sources of natural gas. They include: indigenous
production from the North sea; six international gas
pipelines with Norway, Belgium and the Netherlands; three
liquefied natural gas terminals that can bring supply from
anywhere in the world; and a number of modern, responsive
gas storage facilities. We are confident that market-led
investment will continue to deliver secure gas supplies,
but I will continue to monitor the position.
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I thank the Minister for his answer. The ceramics industry
is a major employer in my constituency. It is very
energy-intensive and heavily reliant on a secure supply of
gas for business continuity. In light of the announcement
that the Rough gas storage facility is to close, what
assurances can the Minister give the ceramics industry that
the gas it needs will not run out or become unaffordable?
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As I explained in my answer to the hon. Gentleman’s first
question, we have a very diverse range of sources. Analysis
conducted by the National Grid and others confirms that the
closure of Rough will not cause a problem with security. I
give the hon. Gentleman an undertaking to monitor this,
with my Department, on a weekly basis.
Business Confidence
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(Paisley and
Renfrewshire North) (SNP)
7. What steps he is taking to improve business confidence.
[900023]
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(Birmingham, Hodge Hill)
(Lab)
14. What steps his Department is taking to foster a
positive environment for business growth. [900030]
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The Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy (Greg Clark)
The industrial strategy Green Paper was launched on 23
January and has been warmly received across the country. We
have received over 1,900 responses to the consultation,
with respondents from every part of the United Kingdom. I
look forward to taking our modern industrial strategy
forward, with the involvement of all Members of this House,
in the months ahead.
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In a damaging blow to business confidence and the wider
economy in Renfrewshire, Chivas Brothers announced that it
was moving operations from Paisley in 2019. The workforce
have voted to strike over a pay offer that Chivas Brothers
itself admits does not meet commitments it made to the
workforce. Will the Secretary of State join me in urging
Chivas to offer a deal that prevents industrial action and
recognises the contribution the Paisley workforce have
given to Chivas over many, many years?
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Of course we want to avoid industrial action. I am not
aware of the particular circumstances, but I am very happy
to meet the hon. Gentleman so he can inform me of them in
more detail.
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Does the Secretary of State agree with the Secretary of
State for Defence, who spoke this morning about the need to
provide extra investment in those areas that are left
behind—even if the bill comes to something like £1.5
billion? When is he going to open talks with other hon.
Members about the needs of their areas, so we can ensure
that those left-behind regions are not left behind and left
out?
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I am very surprised to hear that question from the right
hon. Gentleman. Of all the people in this House, he was a
great proponent of a city deal and a devolution deal for
Birmingham and the west midlands, the value of which is
over £1 billion. Looking around the Chamber, there are many
Opposition Members who have made precisely such a case that
we should invest in areas of the country, outside of
national programmes. It seems to me to be reasonable to
continue that programme.
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(Rugby) (Con)
I took soundings from small businesses in Rugby at a small
business expo run by the Federation of Small Businesses on
Friday. Their single biggest concern related to the
recruitment of staff, in that the skills they are looking
for often are not available among local jobseekers. Given
those instances, will the Secretary of State reassure us
about the training of young people and the ability to
recruit staff from the EU moving forward?
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I will indeed. One of the big findings, which has been
reinforced by the consultation on the industrial strategy,
is that we need to ramp up the level of skills and
technical education and training in this country. We will
respond to the consultation in the weeks ahead, but my hon.
Friend can rest assured that that will be one of its key
pillars.
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(Cannock Chase)
(Con)
The Kingswood Lakeside business park in Cannock is home to
many leading businesses and the new developments there will
create hundreds of new jobs. Does my right hon. Friend
agree that those developments are evidence of business
confidence, and show that Cannock Chase is well and truly
open for business and is a great place to do business?
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I do indeed. Having visited Cannock Chase with my hon.
Friend, I know that she is a great champion of the
businesses there. It is fair to reflect that the confidence
of manufacturers and employers in other sectors is high. As
the CBI attested this week, it is high across the country,
including in Cannock Chase.
Euratom Treaty
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(Oxford West and
Abingdon) (LD)
8. What discussions he has had with Cabinet colleagues and
other key stakeholders on the potential effect of the UK
leaving the Euratom treaty on energy suppliers and on the
availability of radioisotopes for the NHS. [900024]
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The Minister for Universities, Science, Research and
Innovation (Joseph Johnson)
We have discussed the UK’s exit from Euratom across the
Government and with key stakeholders. Our objective is to
ensure that leaving Euratom has no adverse impact on energy
suppliers or on our international commitments on nuclear
non-proliferation. Medical radioisotopes are not special
fissile nuclear material, and are not subject to
international nuclear safeguards. Therefore, their
availability should not be impacted by the UK’s exit from
Euratom. As the hon. Lady will have seen, the Queen’s
Speech announced the Government’s intention to legislate to
establish a domestic nuclear safeguards regime.
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Yesterday The Times reported that officials from the
Minister’s Department estimated that it would take seven
years to negotiate equivalent terms to this treaty. Given
that experts have warned that, above all, we must avoid a
cliff-edge withdrawal, does he not agree that leaving on
the current timeline is infeasible and that it would be in
the UK’s best interests to stay in Euratom and avoid this
mess?
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I should have welcomed the hon. Lady to her place in the
House. Our objective in these proceedings is clear: we want
to maintain the UK’s leading role as a responsible nuclear
state, with world-leading nuclear research and development
and a flourishing nuclear power industry. We will establish
a regime that ensures that nothing changes in that regard
as we leave Euratom.
Zero-hours Contracts
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Margot James)
I welcome the hon. Gentleman to the House, along with the
considerable expertise he brings on labour market issues
from his former employment.
Zero-hours contracts allow people to access the labour
market who cannot or do not want to commit to standard,
regular work. The Government recognise the concerns about
employers who may be breaching the rules or otherwise
exploiting their position. We want to make sure that
everyone is paid properly and receives the employment
rights to which they are entitled.
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I thank the Minister for her response and for her kind
words. Given the ease with which, just yesterday, £1
billion was found to protect only one job in Westminster,
will the Minister please say what actions the Government
are taking to encourage business to offer genuine financial
and personal security to the nearly 1 million workers on
zero-hours contracts?
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The Government believe that people are entitled to be
treated fairly at work, regardless of what type of contract
they have with the company for which they work. The Prime
Minister commissioned to undertake a
review of the rights of employees. He will report on the
ways in which employment regulations need to keep pace with
changes in the labour market very shortly.
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Ms (Wallasey) (Lab)
I welcome the Minister’s statement that the Government are
determined to ensure that employees get their employment
rights. Why, then, did the Government introduce the huge
fees for access to employment tribunals? Will they now
abolish those fees?
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Employment tribunals are a matter for the Ministry of
Justice, but I am in discussions with it over the review of
employment tribunals that it has undertaken and we keep a
watching brief on the matters the hon. Lady has raised.
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(Birmingham, Erdington)
(Lab)
What does the Minister have to say to the young dustman who
said to me, “Jack, I’ve just got married. We’re about to
have a baby. We’re paying a fortune in rent. We’d love to
buy our own home, but no chance, because I’m on zero-hours
contracts”? Is not the truth that he and millions of
workers like him have seen through the pretence that the
Conservative party is somehow the party of the working
class, and the false claims and the phoney promises, and
have simply had enough of falling pay, squeezed living
standards and insecurity in the world of work?
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I think we should have perspective on these matters,
because less than 3% of the UK workforce are actually on
zero-hours contracts, and according to the most recent
research, 70% of those people are content with the number
of hours they are working. I do accept the hon. Gentleman’s
point about his constituent, however, and that is precisely
the scenario that has reviewed and
will report on very soon.
Leaving the EU: Small Businesses
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(Glasgow North West)
(SNP)
10. What safeguards the Government plan to put in place to
protect small businesses as part of negotiations on the UK
leaving the EU. [900026]
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Margot James)
Ministers in the Department for Exiting the European Union
and I are in regular discussions with small and
medium-sized enterprises and their representatives, and we
are arranging a joint ministerial roundtable with SMEs to
ensure that their voices are heard throughout the Brexit
negotiations. Only last week, the permanent secretary of
the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy
and I held a roundtable with small businesses on the
negotiations.
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A survey by the Federation of Small Businesses found that
92% of exporting small businesses trade in the EU single
market. How does the Minister predict those small
businesses will be affected by the loss of our membership,
and how will she ensure that the sector continues to be
represented in any future negotiations?
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The Government are committed to negotiating a full and open
trade agreement with the European Union on our departure.
As my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State said
earlier, we are aiming for a situation in which no tariffs
are applied to SMEs that export into the single market and
there is no unnecessary bureaucracy.
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(Ilford North)
(Lab)
Many SMEs in my constituency are part of European and
global supply chains. Does the Minister understand that
those businesses, as well as larger financial services
businesses, need clarity and certainty? When will she and
the Government be in a position to give those businesses
certainty about the transitional arrangements that will be
put in place? As she knows, businesses are already making
investment or de-investment decisions.
-
The hon. Gentleman’s points are valid, but they are part of
the ongoing negotiations, which, as he knows, have some way
to go. However, we are defending our position as the No. 1
destination for foreign direct investment, and we will
ensure that SMEs have a strong position in global supply
chains into the future.
Energy Price Cap
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(Kingston upon Hull West
and Hessle) (Lab)
11. What plans he has to implement an energy price cap.
[900027]
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(Vale of Clwyd)
(Lab)
22. What plans he has to implement an energy price cap.
[900039]
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The Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy (Greg Clark)
Our manifesto said that
“we will introduce a safeguard tariff cap that will extend
the price protection currently in place for some vulnerable
customers to more customers on the poorest value tariffs.”
I stand by that commitment.
-
The lived experience of many people in Hull West and Hessle
is that the Conservative party has done nothing to fix the
energy market for the past seven years. Although I welcome
the Government’s move and transformation from calling an
energy price cap Marxist and extremely dangerous to copying
it, is the Minister facing calls to water down that policy
either from the big six or from his own Back Benchers?
-
I welcome the hon. Lady to the House; she follows a
distinguished predecessor. I would perhaps invite her to
reflect on her own party’s history in this matter—the
former Leader of the Opposition was the Energy Secretary
and failed to do anything whatever about it. I have been
clear about the commitment that we have made, and we will
see it through.
-
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. To misquote
Caroline Aherne’s question to Debbie McGee, what first
attracted the Secretary of State to Labour’s financially
astute, socially just and politically responsible energy
price cap?
-
I welcome the hon. Gentleman back. What he describes as an
energy price cap was launched as an energy price freeze.
The problem with that was that as energy prices fell,
consumers would be paying more than they needed to. That
would have been disastrous for them, which is why the
proposal that we have made, in response to the Competition
and Markets Authority analysis, is a much more sensible
approach than we got from Labour.
-
(Salford and
Eccles) (Lab)
As we have heard, various media outlets have reported
recently that senior Cabinet members were lobbying for the
Conservative price cap manifesto commitment to be dropped.
Indeed, the Secretary of State’s recent letter to Ofgem was
silent on the price cap element and, when questioned last
week, the Prime Minister refused to confirm unambiguously
that the price cap would be upheld. Will the Secretary of
State confirm for the avoidance of doubt that he will
implement the promised price cap, and not just stand by it,
to deliver to 17 million customers the £100 saving that his
Prime Minister promised?
-
I welcome the hon. Lady back. It is very good to see her
back in her place. I did not hear her name chanted at
Glastonbury and it is probably unparliamentary to do it
here, but I warmly welcome her back. I have been very clear
and the Queen’s Speech is very clear. It said, in terms:
“My government will ensure fairer markets for consumers,
this will include bringing forward measures to help tackle
unfair practices in the energy market to…reduce energy
bills.”
-
I am afraid it is not clear. The Secretary of State’s
recent letter to Ofgem simply asks it to advise him of the
action it intends to take to safeguard customers on the
poorest value tariffs. It was not a direction to implement
a price cap. Can the Secretary of State confirm that should
Ofgem not take directions to implement a price cap, or if
it directs a price cap that is narrower than the
Conservative manifesto commitment, he will legislate to
uphold his party’s manifesto commitment and, if so, when?
-
The powers that I have are to ask Ofgem to move in this
way, not to order it; Ofgem is independent. As there is a
strong body of opinion on both sides of the House that the
detriment that consumers have been suffering should be put
to an end, I would have thought that the hon. Lady would
welcome it being put to an end as soon as possible, rather
than waiting for legislation to pass through the House.
Ofgem has those powers and I believe it should use them.
Industrial Strategy
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(Kingston upon Hull
North) (Lab)
12. What steps his Department is taking to ensure that all
regions benefit from the Government’s industrial strategy.
[900028]
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The Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy (Greg Clark)
The importance of our regions is a core pillar of our
industrial strategy. We will build on successful clusters,
of which the Humber Energy Estuary is a perfect example, as
the hon. Lady knows. The Humber’s leading position in
marine engineering has been further strengthened by the
opening of factories around the offshore wind industry,
including at Siemens, where 1,000 new skilled jobs have
been created. This is the industrial strategy in action.
-
Ministers recently blocked Hull’s privately financed
initiative to deliver rail electrification all the way to
Hull, an important part of our infrastructure that is
needed in east Yorkshire. Are people in Hull right to now
believe that the £1 billion that was found for the Northern
Ireland powerhouse comes at the expense of the northern
powerhouse?
-
The hon. Lady knows as well as anyone in this House the
commitment that this Government, and I in particular, have
made to devolving funds to Hull and the Humber. They have
benefited considerably, first from a city deal and then
from a growth deal. That has contributed to the increased
prosperity in her city, which I would have thought she
would welcome.
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(Cleethorpes)
(Con)
Notwithstanding what my right hon. Friend has just
outlined, and despite the fact that business confidence in
the region is high, as outlined by the most recent Hull and
Humber chamber of commerce’s quarterly report, there are
still further initiatives that could be taken to advance
the northern powerhouse. What further plans does my right
hon. Friend have?
-
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. One of the aspects of
the progress made around the Humber is the close working
relationships that have been established by businesses and
council leaders north and south of the Humber with the
Government. I look forward to visiting the area again—I am
a regular visitor—so that we can have further devolution of
funds and powers there.
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(York Central)
(Lab/Co-op)
Over the last seven months nearly 2,500 job losses have
been announced in York, including some at Nestlé, as well
as the closure of two company head offices. There are clear
challenges to York’s economy. Will the Secretary of State
agree to meet me, along with his senior officials, so that
we can address those serious challenges and ensure that the
industrial strategy reaches York as well?
-
I should be very happy to do that. Nestlé is, of course, a
major employer, and there is a cluster of food and drink
and agriculture businesses in and around York. It has been
identified in the industrial strategy as an area of real
potential, and I look forward to working with the hon. Lady
to realise that potential.
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(Torbay) (Con)
As the Secretary of State will know, expanding Torbay’s
manufacturing sector is a key part of diversifying our
economy for the future, but a lack of skills may hold us
back. Will he confirm that the Government are still seeking
to deliver institutes of technology throughout the regions
in England?
-
I will indeed. As I said in an earlier answer, the
importance of upgrading our skills education is vital in
all parts of the country, including Torbay, and institutes
of technology are a way of making sure that industries can
benefit from the particular skills that they need.
-
(Newcastle upon Tyne
Central) (Lab)
Having abolished the regional development agencies, the
Conservative party has refused to invest in growth for good
jobs across the country. Ours is now the most unequal
economy in western Europe. If every region produced at the
same rate per head as London, we would all be one third
richer, but instead working people have not had a pay rise
for seven years. Will the Secretary of State commit himself
to matching the specific proposals for investment for jobs
that are laid out in Labour’s industrial strategy, or does
his new-found largesse end at the shores of Ulster?
-
Again, that was a disappointing response. The hon. Lady
knows, and the leaders of her local councils know, how
important initiatives such as the city deal and the growth
deal have been in the north-east. If she looks around the
country, she will see that, whereas in past years most jobs
were created in London and the south-east, that situation
has been transformed, and the north-east of England is one
of the areas that have created jobs at a more rapid rate
than anywhere else in the country. She should commend that
development.
Carbon Reduction Plan
-
(High Peak) (Lab)
13. What the reasons are for the time taken to publish the
Government’s carbon reduction plan. [900029]
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The Minister of State, Department for Business, Energy and
Industrial Strategy (Claire Perry)
I welcome the hon. Lady to her new job. I also have a new
job, and, since taking on the role I have been incredibly
impressed by the progress that the United Kingdom has made,
both in meeting its own climate emissions targets and in
exercising international leadership in that regard. I want
the carbon growth plan to be as ambitious, robust and clear
a blueprint as it can be, so that we can continue to
deliver on this hugely vital piece of domestic and
international policy. I am therefore taking the time to
ensure that the draft could be extended to become more
ambitious, and I intend to publish the plan when Parliament
sits again after the summer recess.
-
Mr Speaker
Order. I have been on the edge of my seat while listening
to the hon. Lady, as has always been the case, but I think
I am right in surmising that she was seeking to group
Question 13 with Questions 15 and 19. So carried away was
she with the excitement of her new responsibilities that I
think she neglected to inform us of that.
-
With your permission, Mr Speaker, I shall group Question 13
with Questions 15 and 19.
-
(Sheffield Central)
(Lab)
15. What the reasons are for the time taken to publish the
Government’s carbon reduction plan. [900031]
-
(Weaver Vale)
(Lab)
19. What the reasons are for the time taken to publish the
Government’s carbon reduction plan. [900035]
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I thank the Minister for her words. Will she join me in
commending the work of the Moors for the Future partnership
in my constituency in the Peak District for the purpose of
carbon reduction? It is revegetating the large areas of
bare peat that exist there, thus fixing carbon emissions.
Will the Minister also please let us know what effect the
new timeframe of the carbon reduction plan, which was due
in 2016, will have on industries and other partnerships
that are relying on seeing the plan?
-
I am, of course, delighted to welcome that incredibly
innovative partnership, which was launched in 2002 and is
making real progress in working out how we can naturally
store carbon in the peat environment that the hon. Lady now
represents. As I have said, I intend to publish the clean
growth plan when Parliament returns from the summer recess.
I look forward to cross-party discussion and, hopefully,
consensus on a document that is hugely important both for
Britain’s domestic future and for our international
leadership.
-
The publication date that the Minister mentions is almost a
year after the date originally intended by the Government.
Does not this reflect a lack of commitment to tackling
climate change? What is she doing to engage with other
Departments to ensure that they carry out emissions impact
assessments so that we can see a real commitment to
tackling climate change across the whole of the Government?
-
May I gently say to the hon. Gentleman that, as the proud
MP for the constituency that has Britain’s leading carbon
capture and storage research facility, he ought to welcome
the progress that successive Governments have made on this
agenda? We were the first country in the world to set
binding carbon budgets, and we have over-achieved on the
first and second ones. Our full intention is to engage the
whole of Government and industry in delivering on the
upcoming budgets.
-
Again, we do not seem to have a date for publication. The
Minister talks about a date after the recess, but what
specific date is that? Does she not agree that this delay
is creating considerable uncertainty for the business
community, and that it has the potential to increase energy
bills?
-
I welcome the hon. Gentleman to his place. He will know
that we are talking about setting a trajectory of budgets
from 2022 and beyond. The progress we are making is
absolutely exceptional, both domestically and
internationally. Perhaps he is new in his place, but he
could look in his diary and check when the House returns
from the summer recess. My intention is to publish the plan
when the House returns from the summer recess.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Mr Speaker
Order. Single-sentence inquiries are now required.
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Sir (New Forest West)
(Con)
The Minister spoke of peer-to-peer exchanges of energy. I
have no idea what they are, but given the enthusiasm she
has brought to her brief I believe that we all deserve a
tutorial. Could that be arranged?
-
It would be a pleasure to educate my right hon. Friend. Let
us think of it as a lot of hot air being generated by one
particular point and being shared around many other data
points. It is part of our future, Mr Speaker.
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Mr Speaker
I am sure the hon. Lady’s ministerial peers in other
countries—to whom I think she referred earlier—must have
felt keenly conscious of their great privilege in meeting
her.
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(Taunton Deane)
(Con)
I would like to applaud this Government’s record on
tackling carbon emissions. Our carbon reduction plan,
alongside investment in new technologies and ratification
of the Paris agreement, will make us world leaders in this
field and create many more jobs—particularly, I hope, in
Taunton Deane, with spin-offs from Hinkley Point, the
lowest carbon energy development in Europe. Can the
Minister give any further indications of how the Government
are responding to the United States’ withdrawal from the
Paris climate change agreement?
-
Even those who do not think that this is a pressing
international issue must surely welcome the fact that there
are now more than 400,000 people employed in this
industry—more than in the aerospace sector. Britain has
shown, in the G7 and the Environment Council meetings, that
we are absolutely prepared to stand shoulder to shoulder
with our European and international partners to make up any
deficit caused by Mr Trump’s withdrawal.
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(Southampton, Test)
(Lab)
We were promised the publication of this report in the
middle of 2016. In October 2016, the permanent secretary
promised that it would be published by February 2017. In
January 2017, the then Secretary of State promised that the
report would be published in the first three months of this
year. Now we hear that it might be published this autumn. A
year and a half on from the original promise, we are now
clearly defaulting on our commitment under the Climate
Change Act 2008, which requires that the plan is published
as soon as is reasonably practicable after the order has
been laid. Is not the Minister ashamed of this lamentable
failure to act on that legislative requirement to produce a
report that is important to the future of climate change
activity, and will she apologise to the House for the
delay?
-
I would have expected more from the hon. Gentleman. Let me
just remind him what has happened since the Committee on
Climate Change’s report was produced. We have had Brexit,
we have had a general election and we have had the
withdrawal of the USA from the Paris climate change
agreement. I want to take the time to ensure that this
report exceeds his expectations. I will take no lessons
from those on the Opposition Front Bench, who have
consistently failed to welcome this country’s progress,
which the right hon. Member for Doncaster North (Edward
Miliband)—who is, sadly, not in his place—was sensible
enough to kick off in 2009. I believe in delivery, not
promises, unlike the Labour party’s manifesto.
Topical Questions
-
(Leeds West)
(Lab)
T1. If he will make a statement on his departmental
responsibilities. [900041]
-
The Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy (Greg Clark)
As outlined in the Queen’s Speech, our industrial strategy
will drive prosperity across the country, and in the past
month we reached an important stage in that process. While
we analyse the nearly 2,000 responses, we continue to make
decisions that help UK-wide industries. We have announced
£1 billion over the next four years for our most innovative
industries, such as artificial intelligence, medicine, and
autonomous vehicles. We have boosted investment in UK
bioscience, such as by providing the University of
Edinburgh’s Roslin Institute with some £20 million, which
will not only support its research on infectious diseases
but create more highly skilled jobs and cement the UK as a
world leader in science and innovation.
-
Energy security is essential for national security and for
family finances. The essential Moorside energy project in
Cumbria is key to such security, but with Toshiba now
predicted to lose £7 billion and the French firm backing
the project pulling out will the Secretary of State tell us
if and when the project will go ahead and provide the
assurances that industry, workers and consumers desperately
need?
-
We have inaugurated a new era of nuclear power through the
approval of Hinkley Point C. The NuGen consortium, the
membership of which has changed from time to time, is
confident that that investment will be able to proceed.
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(Havant) (Con)
T5. I welcome the Government’s commitment in the Queen’s
Speech to the new industrial strategy. Will the Secretary
of State update the House on his plans to support new,
cutting-edge technologies that will help Britain to lead
the fourth industrial revolution? [900045]
-
My hon. Friend was a great champion of the strategy in the
previous Parliament, and I hope that he will be here. One
of its early fruits is the industrial strategy challenge
fund, which is already making resources available for
research in healthcare and medicine, artificial
intelligence, clean energy, driverless cars, advanced
materials, and satellites and space technology. That is
exactly in line with what he and his group have been
urging.
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(Blackburn) (Lab)
T2. The Conservative manifesto pledged to deliver a
country“where wealth and opportunity are spread across
every community in the United Kingdom”,and I see that
Northern Ireland has just had its share. Will the Secretary
of State tell me how the Government’s industrial strategy
will bring wealth and opportunity to places such as
Blackburn, where the national average wage is far less than
it is in Maidenhead, for example? Blackburn has seen too
many cuts from this Government and it is time that we had
some investment, so how quickly can the strategy be
delivered? [900042]
-
I welcome the hon. Lady to her place. She will discover
over time, I hope, that a key part of the industrial
strategy is to drive growth in all parts of the country. My
Department and I have looked to get funds out of Whitehall
and into local places in every part of the country,
including £320 million in Lancashire for the funding of the
growth deal. She will also be aware that it is necessary to
have an economy that is prospering, and one thing that
would stand in the way of that is the record peacetime
taxation with which the manifesto on which she stood was
threatening the country.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Mr Speaker
Order. We are very short of time. We need to speed up.
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(Bolton West) (Con)
T8. Our emerging technology and universities sectors
welcomed our manifesto commitment to increase R and D
spending from 1.7% to 2.4% of GDP, but it was not in the
Queen’s Speech, so what has happened to that commitment?
[900048]
-
The Minister for Universities, Science, Research and
Innovation (Joseph Johnson)
Fear not, Mr Speaker, legislation is not required to
deliver on that commitment. It remains a priority for the
Government and for the delivery of our industrial strategy.
We want to get to 2.4% of GDP for our R and D spend, and we
have a longer-term ambition of 3% after that.
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(Batley and Spen)
(Lab/Co-op)
T3. Research by Citizens Advice found that half the people
on zero-hours contracts, and two thirds of people on
temporary contracts, worryingly believe that they are not
entitled to paid holiday. Kirklees citizens advice bureau
has found employers deliberately misleading workers about
their rights. What steps is the Minister taking to make
sure that workers are aware of their rights to a fair
holiday? What repercussions will there be for companies
that mislead staff? Can the Minister confirm when the
Taylor review will be published? [900043]
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Margot James)
The hon. Lady is right to draw attention to workers who are
misled and workers who believe erroneously that they have
fewer rights than they do. We are absolutely committed that
any individual, whatever contract they are on, is entitled
to their rights. We have increased the powers open to Her
Majesty’s Revenue and Customs to enforce those rights.
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(Louth and Horncastle) (Con)
T9. Market towns are vital to the rural economy, and they
are the heart of rural communities, drawing people together
across the 531 square miles of my constituency. Modern
shopping habits, however, can mean that it is difficult for
businesses in market towns to survive. What are the
Government doing to support our much-needed and much-loved
market towns? [900050]
-
Market towns, such as the ones in my hon. Friend’s
constituency, will have all the support we are giving to
the retail sector and high streets so that they can
flourish.
-
(Aberdeen North)
(SNP)
T4. The National Audit Office recently published a report
on Hinkley Point C that is nothing short of damning,
describing it as “risky and expensive”. When will the
Government listen to the experts and scrap this costly
expenditure, and when will they invest instead in carbon
capture and storage? [900044]
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The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy (Richard Harrington)
If ever you decided not to be Mr Speaker, a career as
chairman of the BBC Radio 4 programme “Just a Minute” would
be appropriate. In answering the hon. Lady’s question, I
will try to keep to your one sentence rule.
The Hinkley Point contract is entirely designed so as not
to get the Government involved in expensive capital
expenditure, and the nuclear power produced by Hinkley
Point will be an excellent part of a mix of power for
decades to come.
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(North Swindon)
(Con)
Having access to the next generation of skilled workers is
vital for business confidence and growth. Will the Minister
consider promoting the opportunities of our ambitious
apprenticeship programme through the annual business rate
mailer to increase awareness?
-
Significant attention was given in the Queen’s Speech to
commitments to roll out new institutes of technology, to
the extra £0.5 billion of spending that will be given to
further education and to our target to deliver 3 million
apprenticeship starts by 2020. High-quality further and
technical education is an absolute priority for this
country and this Government.
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(Stoke-on-Trent North)
(Lab)
T6. The British ceramics industry owes its current success
and future survival to the innovation and development of
breakthrough technologies. With funds such as Horizon 2020
potentially disappearing along with our EU membership, will
the Government assure me that domestic projects such as the
advanced manufacturing research centre will receive support
to keep us at the cutting edge? [900046]
-
We remain committed to ensuring that the UK remains the
go-to place for science, innovation and tech investment in
the years ahead. We want to remain open to collaboration
and research partnerships with institutions across the
European Union and around the world as we negotiate our
departure from the EU.
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(Ochil and South
Perthshire) (Con)
What assessment has the Secretary of State made of the
Government’s industrial strategy for Scotland?
-
It has been warmly received in Scotland, and we have had a
positive response from businesses there. I had an enjoyable
roundtable in Aberdeen, which was described by one local
business as a “breath of fresh air.” I look forward to
continuing that engagement with everyone in Scotland, and I
am sure my hon. Friend will play a big part.
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(Warley) (Lab)
T7. While other countries, including our EU partners, have
over the years used public purchasing to support their own
industries, Britain often has not. As Brexit approaches,
what are the Government doing to ensure that Government
Departments, local services, emergency services, councils
and other public bodies back British industry and British
jobs by buying British first? [900047]
-
The right hon. Gentleman will know that we have already
changed the procurement guidance so that local value can be
taken into account. We have anticipated the issue he
mentions and this is being done.
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(Colchester) (Con)
The Secretary of State is aware that I have long campaigned
for parental bereavement leave, and I was delighted to see
this policy in not only the Conservative manifesto, but the
Labour manifesto. On that basis, will he kindly set out
what steps the Government will take to introduce this
important benefit?
-
I agree that bereaved parents should have the opportunity
to grieve away from the workplace, and we will seek to
provide for that. I am willing to meet my hon. Friend to
discuss further how we might make such provision.
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(Leyton and Wanstead)
(Lab)
The Secretary of State has talked repeatedly today about
the discussions he has had on Brexit. Which trade unions
has he met, and when?
-
I regularly meet trade unions: I met Frances O’Grady of the
TUC last week; I spoke to Roy Rickhuss of the steel union
yesterday; and I spoke to Len McCluskey a few weeks ago. My
contacts cover both sides of the employer and trade union
mix.
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(Gloucester) (Con)
Earlier this year, 116 MPs signed a letter I wrote to the
Secretary of State urging him to implement the
recommendations of the Hendry review for the world’s first
ever tidal lagoon. When will a decision be taken?
-
The Hendry review also said that there are significant
questions as to whether tidal lagoons can be cost-effective,
and very complex issues are involved. We are fully aware that
a Government decision is needed in order for anything to
proceed, but it is absolutely right that we take the
necessary time to consider this carefully.
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Several hon. Members rose—
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Mr Speaker
Now that the hon. Member for Bolsover (Mr Skinner) has
reached the midpoint of his parliamentary career, I had
intended to call him if he was standing, but he is not and so
I will not—but if he does, I will.
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Mr (Bolsover)
(Lab)
I have listened to the questions and answers for the past
hour, and I hear about the city deals and all the rest of it,
but why does the Secretary of State not answer the specific
questions about the trade unions? If he wants to give the
impression that he is on the side of working-class people,
why do not the Government drop the trade union Bill and all
the rest of it?
-
I could not have been clearer about the regular discussions I
have with trade unionists. My concern, which I hope would be
the hon. Gentleman’s concern, is to make sure that in all
parts of the United Kingdom we generate the jobs and growth
to ensure that all working people have a prosperous future to
look forward to. That is the purpose of this Government, in
contrast to the manifesto on which he stood.
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Mr Skinner
Answer the question!
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Mr Speaker
Order.
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Mr Skinner
I did not get an answer.
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Mr Speaker
Order. I must say to the hon. Gentleman that on the strength
of his 47 years’ experience of this place he knows that not
receiving an answer is not an altogether novel phenomenon in
the House of Commons, irrespective of who is in power at the
time.
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