High Speed 2 Mrs Cheryl Gillan (Chesham and Amersham) (Con) 1. What
steps are being taken to prepare for the construction phase of High
Speed 2 phase 1. [908838] The Secretary of State for Transport
(Chris Grayling) HS2 Ltd let the early...Request free trial
High Speed 2
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1. What steps are being taken to prepare for the
construction phase of High Speed 2 phase
1. [908838]
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HS2 Ltd let the early works contract for activities
such as demolitions, site clearances and species
translocations in November 2016, with work commencing
after Royal Assent—you will be aware, Mr Speaker, that
earlier this week the Bill passed its last stages prior
to Royal Assent. The main works civil contracts to
construct the main physical works for the railway,
including tunnels, viaducts and embankments, are due to
be let later this year. The initial works on the
project will begin shortly after Royal Assent. I have
been very clear that through the construction phase I
expect HS2 Ltd and my Department to do everything we
can to ensure that the impact of construction on those
affected is mitigated wherever possible.
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It is ironic that I should have drawn the first
Transport question on the day the Bill for phase 1 of
HS2 gets Royal Assent. Although some people are crowing
and backslapping each other about it, let us remember
that it is tragic for many people. The impact is
disproportionately felt by my local authorities, such
as Buckinghamshire County Council, and our parish
councils, such as Great Missenden. Will my right hon.
Friend reassure me, my constituents and my excellent
councils that the Department for Transport will
reimburse parish, county and district councils for any
reasonable expenses incurred as a result of the
construction of this dreadful project, HS2?
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I am well aware that when a project of such national
importance is constructed, it inevitably has an effect
on some of those who live on the route. I reiterate
that we will do everything we can to ensure that the
process is as reasonable and fair as possible for those
affected. With regard to local authorities, I give my
right hon. Friend that assurance and repeat the
assurances made in the debate on Monday by the
Under-Secretary of State for Transport, my hon. Friend
the Member for Harrogate and Knaresborough (Andrew
Jones). HS2 is putting service-level agreements in
place with every single local authority along the line
of route to set out the additional funding that we will
make available for the new railway line’s construction
process.
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I welcome Royal Assent being given to this much needed
investment, but how will the Secretary of State ensure
that the promises made about jobs and training
opportunities during the construction of High Speed 2
actually materialise?
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I take this very seriously. We have been very clear
when letting contracts—most recently in the information
that we put into the market about rolling stock—that we
expect this project to leave a lasting skills footprint
not just in the areas of construction but around the
United Kingdom. A number of events have been held for
potential suppliers to the project around the UK, and
we have been very clear with all firms, both UK and
international, that want to bid to be part of it that
we expect them to leave that footprint. It is an
essential part of the project.
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Is the Secretary of State aware that because of the
decision to have a station at Sheffield, we will have
two HS2 lines running through Derbyshire: a fast track
and a slow track? Many villages throughout Bolsover
will be affected as a result. There is one in
particular, Newton, where more than 30 houses are due
to be demolished. Will he meet a group of residents
from that village to try to sort this matter out?
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I am aware of the issue the hon. Gentleman refers to. I
give him the same assurance that I just gave to my
right hon. Friend the Member for Chesham and Amersham
(Mrs Gillan): we will do our best to minimise impacts.
The Minister alongside me, my hon. Friend the Member
for Harrogate and Knaresborough, will answer these
questions in more detail in the Adjournment debate
tonight. Either he or I will also meet residents to
discuss the issue.
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Some of the homes on the route that are worst affected
are in East Acton, which faces 10 years of construction
disruption, 24/7. Their gardens have been compulsorily
purchased and the main access route is to be blocked.
HS2’s QC called my residents “tedious” for pointing out
that they do not qualify for compensation under the
rural support scheme and that unlike Camden they have
not been granted exceptional status. I am encouraged to
hear that the Secretary of State is putting emphasis on
mitigation, because all my constituents have been
offered is express purchase. Will he urgently meet them
and the London Borough of Ealing? These people just
want to preserve their suburban way of life and not be
ridden roughshod over.
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It is important that I remind the hon. Lady and
reiterate what I said. The matters relating to her
constituency—the routes through London and the route on
phase 1—have been exhaustively examined, not simply by
my Department but by Committees of this House and the
other place. Although we will always be open to
representations about ways in which we can minimise
impact, these issues have been exhaustively dealt with
by this Parliament.
Diesel Cars
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2. What steps his Department is taking to reduce the
number of diesel cars. [908839]
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We are working with local authorities to drive the
improvements in air quality that are so needed in our
more polluted cities. My right hon. Friend the
Environment Secretary will consult on a new air quality
plan later this spring.
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Diesel vehicles are part of the problem and we need
urgent action on them, but is the Minister also aware
of today’s Environmental Audit Committee report on how
Heathrow will affect pollution and climate change? I
have just come back from Beijing and saw the level of
pollution there. Will the Minister bear it in mind that
that is not where we want to go for towns and cities in
this country?
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It is important to appreciate, as I know the hon.
Gentleman does, that this is not a matter of some
high-flown theory about what might happen in many
centuries’ time; it is about the wellbeing of people
now in our cities and elsewhere. The direct
relationship between air quality and health is well
established. Pollutants are affecting the quality of
life—more than that, they are affecting the health and
wellbeing of our people. The issue is about the defence
and promotion of the common good, which, as he and the
whole House know, is always central to my heart.
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I urge Ministers and the Government to do something
about older diesel cars, either through taxation or a
scrappage scheme. We can get electric vehicles in, but
we also need to take diesels out, especially in our
inner cities, with their hotspots of pollution. Unless
we tackle that issue, we will not get the levels down.
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Just this morning, I was with no fewer than 16 motor
manufacturers looking at low-emission vehicles. It is
vital that we promote electric cars. As you will know,
Mr Speaker, this week we have published our Vehicle
Technology and Aviation Bill, which deals with the
electric car charging infrastructure, among many other
things. One can deal with this by sanction and penalty
or through encouragement, incentive and a change of
mind. I prefer to look on the positive side of these
things.
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The penalty is going to be the millions of pounds of
fines faced by our constituents because of the
Government’s failure to act. When are we going to hear
about some practical action from the Government to
reduce the number of diesel vehicles? The Minister has
not answered the question. Air pollution is the second
biggest avoidable killer after smoking.
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Let us be clear: we have made real progress to date. In
2016, the UK was the largest market for ultra-low
emission vehicles in the EU and a global leader in this
development.
I am sure that the right hon. Gentleman, in the spirit
of bipartisan generosity that characterises all he does
in the House, will welcome the announcement in the
autumn statement setting out a further £290 million of
funding for ultra-low emission vehicles. He says that
he wants action, but what more action does he want than
the policy, the legislation and the resources—we are
taking action. Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman is
feeling grumpy because it is Thursday morning, but he
really ought to welcome that.
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I point out to the Minister that figures from the
London Assembly Environment Committee from 2015 set out
why it is wrong to try to demonise diesel cars and
their drivers. Diesel cars account for just over 10% of
all emissions in London: the same amount, nearly, as
Transport for London’s buses; the same amount, nearly,
as ageing trains; the same amount, nearly, as
ground-based aviation services. The issue is not simply
diesels.
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As this short discussion on low-emission vehicles and
emissions began, I thought, as you Mr Speaker, must
have done, of Proust, who said, as you will remember:
“The only real voyage of discovery consists not in
seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes”.
Using those eyes to see to the future is necessary if
we are to be ambitious and have vision about where we
can go with low-emission vehicles, particularly
electric vehicles. We are making progress and we will
continue to make more. The plan that I described, which
we will draw up this spring, will set out exactly what
that progress looks like.
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On diesel vehicle manufacturers, the Minister knows of
my particular interest in Volkswagen. Will he confirm
from the Dispatch Box the extraordinary and
contradictory evidence that the Select Committee on
Transport received on Monday from Volkswagen’s managing
director, Paul Willis, and that Mr Willis has not given
the Minister’s Department everything it asked for?
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The hon. Gentleman was at the sitting of that
Committee, on which he serves, where he will have heard
the extraordinary statements made by Mr Willis, which I
described at the time as “little short of ridiculous.”
I have met Mr Willis and Volkswagen on numerous
occasions and asked them for four things: a quicker
retrofit to the vehicles affected; compensation for
customers who are affected; a warranty for those
retrofits; and the money the taxpayer has had to spend
as a result of what Volkswagen did to be repaid in
full. None of those things has yet been done to my
satisfaction, which is why I have written again to Mr
Willis, setting out exactly our Government demands—not
Government demands, but demands on behalf of the
people.
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The public are perplexed about where we are going with
diesel cars. Will the Minister be sure to remember that
many people bought a diesel car because they knew it
would be cheaper to run, even though it was a more
expensive car? They cannot afford to make the coming
changes. Does the Minister recognise that?
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It is certainly true that we need to make the
transition to low-emission vehicles affordable. We are
not in the business, as a Government who champion the
cause of ordinary, hard-working people, of penalising
people to the point at which they cannot go about their
lives or access employment and other opportunities in a
way in which the whole House would expect, so it is
absolutely right that we take a measured view. Having
said that, we have to make more progress, and being
measured does not mean being complacent. As I set out
earlier, we will make that progress, and we will change
minds and behaviour through what we do.
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Following the Transport Committee hearing earlier in
the week, am I right in thinking that Volkswagen
situation now denies any wrongdoing in the UK but still
feels obliged to fix 472,000 vehicles, with another
half a million remaining to be looked at? The company
says it has provided the Government with all the
information requested, but the Minister denies that,
and it is refusing to publish the report it
commissioned from its lawyers, Jones Day. The Minister
told the House in November that there would be a
“steely fist” in his “velvet glove” if Volkswagen did
not meet their obligations, so will he tell the House
what that steely fist will actually mean and what he
will actually do when he meets VW again next month?
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First, to establish the detail of what Volkswagen has
and has not done, and what the Government have asked it
to do, it might be best if I let the hon. Gentleman and
the House have a copy of the letter I have just written
to Mr Willis, which sets out how and where Volkswagen
has not done what the Government have asked. Secondly,
as I said a moment ago, I am determined to use every
avenue to pursue the interests of the consumer. The
Secretary of State and I will travel to Berlin to meet
German counterparts to have discussions because much of
the evidence lies there, where the tests were done.
Yesterday I met the legal representatives of the
consumers who are moving a private prosecution against
Volkswagen. I will leave no avenue unexplored and no
stone unturned. My steely fist is now a galvanised
steely fist.
Transport Modal Integration
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3. What assessment he has made of the level of
transport modal integration in the north of
England. [908840]
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The Government have strongly supported the north of
England’s local authorities and local enterprise
partnerships to come together to form Transport for the
North. We have committed £50 million to Transport for
the North to produce a comprehensive transport strategy
covering all modes of transport in an integrated manner
to support delivery of the wider northern powerhouse
strategy.
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The Institute for Public Policy Research North report
this week revealed that London gets £1,500 more
transport spend per head than the north. For the cost
of one Crossrail project we could connect the four
major cities of the powerhouse and the four existing
runways, utilising the spare capacity, adding £100
billion to the economy and creating 850,000 new jobs.
Does the Minister agree with the report?
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I am aware of the report, and we await the
recommendations from Transport for the North on
northern powerhouse rail, but the point about the
report is that it offers a snapshot of where we are at
the moment. It reflects where individual projects are
in development and delivery. The situation will look
extremely different in a few years.
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Is the Minister aware that a 21% cut, on top of
existing cuts, to the mode shift revenue support grant
will have a devastating effect on the rail freight
sector in the north of England and could lead overall
to up to 190,000 extra lorry journeys every year?
Surely this is taking things in absolutely the wrong
direction. Will he undertake to reverse the cuts?
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I hear the right hon. Lady’s comments. Our policy is to
get more freight on to the railways. One of the points
of HS2 is to free up capacity on the existing network
for more freight. I will relay her points about the
mode shift revenue support grant to the rail Minister.
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The Government have said that one of the benefits of
HS2 will be how well it links into, and integrates
with, other forms of transport. Why, then, in the
alternatives for HS2’s route through Sheffield and
south Yorkshire is there no reference to how HS2
connects to HS3?
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Northern powerhouse rail is being developed with the
platform of HS2 being delivered—we are looking
potentially to use parts of the HS2 network for
northern powerhouse rail—but the final decisions on the
routes through south Yorkshire have not been made. This
is a live consultation, running until 9 March, and I
ask that the hon. Gentleman participate in it.
HS2: A4010 Plan
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4. When HS2 Ltd plans to produce a route management
improvement and safety plan for the
A4010. [908841]
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HS2 Ltd anticipates that draft route management
improvement and safety plans, including that for
Buckinghamshire covering the A4010, will be available
for discussion and consultation with highway
authorities in March.
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That is great news. I am glad that the people of
Wycombe, Aylesbury and Buckingham will have an
opportunity to scrutinise this essential emergency
route. Will my hon. Friend take steps to enhance the
safety of the route?
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My hon. Friend makes an important point. Safety is
critical as we go into the delivery phase of HS2. As a
result of the petitioning process, the Secretary of
State has committed to contributing £480,000 for
permanent safety measures along the A4010 and A4129 in
Buckinghamshire. The Government have also created a £30
million road safety fund for HS2, the details of which
we will be announcing very shortly.
Harmful Emissions: Road Transport
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5. What steps he is taking to reduce harmful emissions
from road transport. [908842]
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As you would expect, Mr Speaker, I am working closely
with my colleagues in the Department for Environment,
Food and Rural Affairs on the vital issue of air
pollution, and as I said earlier, we intend to consult
on a new air quality plan later this spring.
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Given that 40,000 people die prematurely every year
from air pollution and that the Government have lost
two High Court cases over their lack of action, will
the Minister now use his large, galvanised fist to push
through clean air zones in cities such as Norwich to
protect people’s health?
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Yes, I think the hon. Gentleman is right. Clean air
zones play a vital role in that work. Sometimes all I
need is the air that I breathe. Certainly, we all need
and deserve clean air. He will know that Norwich is one
of the cities that has already implemented a bus
low-emission zone and that the Campaign for Better
Transport has welcomed the themes to be addressed by
the clean air zones, including the plans for local
growth, air quality and health. It has said that these
are
“sound principles to underpin transport and planning”.
He is right, however, that we need to do more on clean
air zones, and we will consult on that. I am in weekly
discussions with my colleagues in DEFRA accordingly.
The key thing—if I might add this, Mr Speaker, at your
discretion—is that it is really important that we not
only have good, consistent national standards, but
respect the local particularities of different places
and cities, so the role of local government will be
vital. These zones will not be vanilla flavoured. They
will reflect local circumstances, but they must all
work to high national standards.
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We are all, I am sure, greatly educated in consequence,
but at a cost in time.
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One of the reasons for harmful road emissions in my
constituency is the queues of traffic from Baildon
through to Shipley, so when can we have a Shipley
eastern bypass, which would be good for the local
economy, alleviate congestion, and deal with these
harmful emissions?
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My hon. Friend’s perspicacity means that he has managed
to weave a point about local roads into a question
about air quality. On that basis, I think the best
thing for me to do is to agree to meet him to discuss
its particularities in greater detail.
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20. I am sure that the Minister is aware of the new
report “Any Journey is Greener by Bus”, which shows how
bus patronage has grown in Labour-led cities such as
Nottingham that have adopted new and innovative
approaches, including greener buses, and reduced
harmful emissions. That has brought about wider social
and economic benefits. Given that bus use in the UK as
a whole has fallen by about 7% in the past six years,
and that in the past year mileage fell on commercial
and local authority-supported bus services, are not his
Government failing to support one of the most effective
ways to tackle air pollution? [908861]
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It will not come as any surprise to the hon. Lady to
know that when I am in Nottingham I travel on the bus
from my mother-in-law’s home to the city, so I can
speak with some authority about bus journeys in
Nottingham. She is right that bus travel is a key part
of this, which is why we have made an extra £150
million available specifically for cleaner buses. She
is right, too, that we need to encourage that as part
of our low-emission zones.
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Encouraging parents to leave their cars at home and get
their children on to local public transport can have a
major impact on air quality. Has my right hon. Friend
done any analysis of how much free bus travel for
children will cost? The Labour metro mayor candidate
has promised free bus travel for all children across
the west of England, even though the devolution deal is
£30 million a year. Is this another underfunded Labour
promise?
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Order. That is very wide of the substance of the
question, so I think that a single sentence of
eloquence from the Minister of State will probably
suffice on this occasion.
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Buses are good, walking is good, cycling is good—that
was how I got to school.
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The Minister promised new eyes, so will he use them to
recognise that there are some 10 million diesel car
drivers in the UK. Rather than joining in their
demonisation by a hysterical media, will he hold a full
and proper inquiry into the pros and cons of diesel,
including for buses, trucks and trains, and thereby
adopt a proportionate approach to what remedies might
be necessary?
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I think that the right hon. Gentleman will recognise
from my immensely measured remarks earlier that I am
not prepared to demonise anyone. I am certainly not
prepared to put at risk the wellbeing of people who
need to travel to work and school, and to access other
opportunities—public services and so forth. Of course
we need to be balanced in our approach to this.
Night Flights: London Airports
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6. What his policy is on reducing the number of night
flights at London airports. [908843]
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I fully recognise the effect on local communities of
aircraft noise during the night, particularly the
health effects associated with sleep disturbance. As my
hon. Friend will be aware, we are consulting on future
night flight restrictions at Heathrow, Gatwick and
Stansted, including options that will reduce the amount
of noise that airports are allowed to make while
ensuring that we maintain the benefits to the economy
of night flights on some key routes.
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I hugely welcome the work on this that the Secretary of
State is doing, but may I urge him to agree that the
major European airports that have brought in quiet
periods from 2200 hours onwards offer a very suitable
example for airports such as Gatwick that are blighting
the lives of many people in towns such as Edenbridge
and Penshurst?
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I am well aware of the pressures on my hon. Friend’s
constituency and neighbouring ones due to night flights
and the way in which routes currently operate around
Gatwick. As he will know, part of our consultation is
about exactly how we use airspace, as well as how we
limit the use of night hours for aircraft. I encourage
him to take part in that consultation. I do believe,
however, that new technology can help us to make a
significant difference.
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Will the Secretary of State outline his plans to ensure
that air links are strengthened for routes from
Northern Ireland to the UK mainland, and that any
reduction in flights, wherever they may be, will not
adversely affect those links or any enhanced provision
for Northern Ireland?
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That is clearly a very important issue. I am pleased
that yesterday my Department announced the very
important decision to continue support for the flight
from Derry to Stansted. We decided that it was
important to make the resource available for that to
continue, and I hope that people in Northern Ireland
will welcome that.
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11. Will my right hon. Friend, while acknowledging the
growing importance of the package freight business, try
to do more to ensure that prominent companies in that
business replace what are often very ageing aircraft
with more modern equipment, because such aircraft
aggravate the noise factors in rural
areas? [908848]
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I absolutely agree with my right hon. Friend. I want
airports to provide clear incentives to the airlines
that use them to make sure that, if they use the night
hours, they do so with a new generation of quiet
aircraft, which can make a real difference to local
people.
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May I thank the Secretary of State and his Department
for the public service obligation announcement about
the Londonderry to London route? Will he also pass on
our thanks to Lord Ahmad for the meeting that I
suggested should take place in the House several weeks
ago, which helped to resolve the matter? We now look
forward to the effective marketing of that route so
that it can be successful beyond the two-year period
that the PSO covers.
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I am very happy to pass on those thanks to Lord Ahmad,
who has done a great job as aviation Minister. I am
glad that we have reached a resolution. I hope that the
route will build up sufficiently such that it will
become permanently commercial and will not need public
support.
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15. For most people, night flights include those that
arrive in the very early hours of the morning. Such
flights affect my constituents in Henley, particularly
when planes land in an easterly wind. To what extent
will the Secretary of State take their views into
consideration? [908854]
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I am very sensitive to issues affecting not just people
who live near the immediate approaches to airports, but
those who live further away, such as my hon. Friend’s
constituents. That is why I believe that the better use
of air space, particularly with state-of-the-art
technology rather than the methods of 40 or 50 years
ago, will enable us to provide much more respite for
individual communities that are currently affected by
aircraft noise.
Exiting the EU: Inbound Passengers
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7. What assessment he has made of the potential effect
of the UK leaving the EU on inbound passengers at
airports and ports across the UK. [908844]
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9. What assessment he has made of the potential effect
of the UK leaving the EU on inbound passengers at
airports and ports across the UK. [908846]
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10. What assessment he has made of the potential effect
of the UK leaving the EU on inbound passengers at
airports and ports across the UK. [908847]
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The Government are considering potential impacts on the
border as part of our preparations for negotiating our
departure from the EU. It is too soon to say what
arrangements will be needed, but we are very conscious
of the interest of the transport industry in future
arrangements. We remain committed to putting passengers
at the heart of our transport policy.
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Does taking back control of our borders mean that the
23 million inbound passengers from the EU who pass
through our airports each year will be subject to full
border checks? Is the Secretary of State aware of
research by the Tourism Industry Council that shows
that that would require the resources of UK Border
Force to be increased by 200%? Will he assure us that
those costs will be met from the £350 million he
promised for the NHS each week?
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It is already the case that when an EU citizen arrives
in this country, they have to show their passport. I do
not envisage that changing in the future.
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The reality is that since 2011 this Government have cut
the UK Border Force budget by 15%, despite it having to
cope with an 11% increase in passenger numbers over the
same period. That is already having an impact on
passengers. What discussions has the Secretary of State
had with the Home Secretary to make sure that neither
passengers nor border security are prejudiced or
compromised after Brexit?
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The hon. Gentleman will know that in recent years we
have significantly increased automation at airports,
with e-gates for passports, which provides a good way
of balancing the need for effective border controls and
the ability to live within our means.
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Under service level agreements between the Government
and UK airports, passengers from the European economic
area are expected to queue for no longer than 25
minutes while those from outside that area are expected
to queue for no longer for 45 minutes. Does the
Secretary of State believe that those service level
agreements will need to be revised post-Brexit?
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I reiterate what the Prime Minister said recently: our
desire post-Brexit is not to have long queues at our
borders, but to have sensible arrangements that allow
people to travel to do business, and controls on
migration to the United Kingdom, which I think people
voted for last year.
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Does my right hon. Friend agree that when the UK leaves
the EU, we will be free to open dedicated entry lanes
at our airports for UK citizens and citizens of our
overseas territories, thereby speeding up entry to the
UK?
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As my hon. Friend knows, it will be for this House and
this Government to decide how best to manage our
borders post-Brexit. I am sure that he would wish to
ensure that, where appropriate, there is the smoothest
possible passage through our borders for people we wish
to welcome to our country.
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At a sitting of the Culture, Media and Sport Committee
this week, several witnesses expressed concern about
the time that would be required to undertake a
considerable physical reconfiguration of airports. Is
the Secretary of State having conversations with the
airports about the possible scenarios?
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I had a meeting with airlines and airports earlier this
week and we will continue to consult the industry
carefully. As I have said, people who arrive from all
around the world already have to show their passports
when they arrive in the United Kingdom, so I do not
envisage the dramatic change that some are suggesting.
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21. It is of course likely that queues for inbound
passengers will increase in the UK post-Brexit, which
will have an effect on the UK’s competitiveness in the
pan-European tourism market. What assurances and
evidence can the Secretary of State provide that
interdepartmental work is being done to ensure that
there is as little disruption as possible and our
tourism market, which is vital for jobs and the
economy, is not adversely affected? [908862]
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The hon. Lady makes an assumption that I simply do not
accept. It is already the case that people arriving at
our borders have to show their passports before
entering the country. I do not envisage that changing.
We certainly do not envisage a situation in which we
create vast additional queues at our borders. We want a
smooth, streamlined process so that people who have a
right to come here can do so and be welcome.
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In addition to the ongoing discussions with UK ports
and airports, what discussions have taken place with
the Treasury about encouraging inbound passengers by
reducing VAT on tourism?
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Taxation is an issue for the Budget. Many
representations are made by people across this House
and across society to the Chancellor of the Exchequer
about what he might or might not do in his Budget. I
fear that the hon. Lady will have to wait for a short
while to see what he has in store for us this year.
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To reduce delays at UK airports, EU nationals who
arrive in the UK are processed faster due to what is
called a “soft border” approach, using special lanes
and scanning. Will the Secretary of State confirm that
the Government intend to continue those measures after
the UK has left the EU?
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We will decide the detailed arrangements as the months
go by but, as I have said, it is not our intention to
create queues at our borders. It will remain the case
that people have to show their passports when they
arrive in the United Kingdom. There is a warm welcome
for people from all around the world who come to the UK
as tourists, as visitors or to do business, and there
will continue to be so.
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Currently EU nationals can use the expensive but
effective e-passport gates. Will the Secretary of State
confirm that those machines will effectively become
redundant? If so, do the Government intend to offer
them second hand to our European neighbours at bargain
prices to recoup some of the cost?
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Actually, I expect more use of technology in countries
around the world to move people through passport lanes.
I expect such a change to accelerate, rather than
decelerate.
Road Tolls
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8. Whether he plans to review his Department’s policy
on road tolls. [908845]
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The Government have no plans to roll out tolling on
existing roads. Successive Governments have taken the
view that tolls are occasionally justified when private
finance enables some of the most expensive road
infrastructure, such as significant river crossings, to
proceed. It is right that the user pays, rather than
the taxpayer, because the user benefits.
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My constituents who work in Liverpool will need a pay
rise of £1,000 a year just to stand still when the
Mersey crossing tolls are introduced. Will the Minister
consider a scheme whereby those who can demonstrate
that they were in permanent employment on the other
side of the water on the day the tolls were announced
would have either some kind of tapered introduction or
a discount to reflect the additional costs?
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As I said, it is not unusual for Governments to use
tolls to finance large estuary crossings. I would
rather be straightforward with the hon. Gentleman about
this matter because he is a diligent, popular and
well-respected Member of this House and, more
importantly, he is one of my friends. I cannot do what
he wants and I would rather say that now. We did
consider whether we could widen or add to the discount
scheme, but we could not make that cost-effective, so I
would rather be absolutely frank with him and just say
that.
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19. Last week marked nine years since the Scottish
National party scrapped the last of the transport tolls
in Scotland. Since then, the average commuter
travelling on the Forth and Tay bridges has saved
around £2,000. In the same period, the average
toll-paying commuter in England and Wales will have
paid just under £4,000. If the Government are serious
about helping what they call “just about managing”
families, why will not the Secretary of State reassess
his transport toll policy? [908860]
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My goodness, what barefaced cheek from the SNP. It did
indeed cancel the tolls, and the crossing closed
because the SNP did not have enough
money—[Interruption.] There was not enough money to
make it work.
Cycling and Walking
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12. When he plans to publish the Government’s cycling
and walking investment strategy. [908850]
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We will publish the strategy shortly, but I am not able
to specify a precise date yet.
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The Wirral Way in my constituency is a beautiful path
that is popular with cyclists and walkers for the
expansive views it gives over the Dee estuary, and, of
course, the fresh air it affords and the
internationally renowned bird life. The Government have
committed more than £15 billion over five years for
their roads investment strategy, but just £316 million
for their draft cycling and walking investment
strategy. What more will the Government do to increase
cycling and walking in the United Kingdom?
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We will publish our strategy shortly, but let me
correct the hon. Lady. We are spending approximately 2%
of the Department’s total budget in this Parliament on
cycling, which amounts to just under £1 billion out of
a total budget of around £50 billion. We want to make
cycling and walking the default choice for shorter
journeys, and I recognise all the hon. Lady’s points
about the very pleasant area that she represents.
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That was an extraordinary answer from the Minister
because at Transport questions six weeks ago, the
Secretary of State told us that we would not have long
to wait for CWIS, but it is almost a year since the
consultation was launched. The Department seems to have
a problem with lateness: the Bus Services Bill—late;
CWIS—late; taxi regulation—who knows?; and private
parking measures—more than a year late. Will the
Secretary of State tell us how many people in the
Department are working on CWIS and give us a firm
date—or is it just the Department for being late?
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That question did not quite capture the hon.
Gentleman’s customary generosity at the Dispatch Box.
It is clearly a load of nonsense. The Government are
investing more in transport than any other Government
in British history. Publication of the strategy is
slightly delayed because so many people have responded
to the consultation, which we will go through very
shortly. The strategy is near publication and I will
let the hon. Gentleman know exactly when we will
publish it shortly.
Rail Services: Disabled Access
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13. What steps he is taking to ensure that disabled
passengers have equality of access to rail
services. [908852]
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This is an issue worth waiting for, as I am sure the
House will agree.
We are committed to improving the accessibility of the
rail network. Currently 70% of train fleets’ operating
passenger services meet modern accessibility standards,
with the remaining vehicles due to be either upgraded
or replaced by 1 January 2020.
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Has the Minister had a chance to read the Muscular
Dystrophy UK Trailblazers’ “End of the Line” report, in
which young disabled people identify problems with
accessibility to train stations, to which the Minister
referred, and the advance booking system? Will the
Government commit to looking at both issues with a view
to finding a solution?
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Probably the most rewarding period of my time as a
Member of Parliament has been spent chairing the
Muscular Dystrophy UK Trailblazers all-party group and
challenging and cross-examining the industry, so I am
well aware of the report. It is worth pointing out that
Passenger Assist bookings are increasing by 7% year on
year. The challenge for the industry is to ensure that
passengers who wish to just turn up and go get the same
service as those who book through Passenger Assist.
More than that, the industry should ensure that when
Passenger Assist does not work properly, people have
adequate recourse to an ombudsman’s system to get
redress. That is not currently the case.
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Can the Minister confirm that the number and
availability of on-board supervisors at Southern Rail
is increasing? As a result, can we expect to see an
improvement in services for disabled passengers?
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I am certainly keeping a very careful eye on Govia
Thameslink Railway both in terms of official passenger
assist bookings and the unofficial turn-up-and-go
service. I am very keen to see the outcome of the
mystery shopping exercises being conducted by the
Office of Rail and Road. I want to ensure that all
passengers who travel on GTR get the service they need
from the on-board supervisors.
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You will recall, Mr Speaker, that six weeks ago I asked
a question at Transport questions about the experience
of disabled passengers. I have subsequently been
contacted by lots of people who have told me their
stories—awful stories that shame us all. I want to ask
the Minister about the Disability Discrimination Act
2005, of which this House can be rightly proud. Does
the Act apply to train operating companies? I think we
would all expect the answer to be yes. If so, what are
the Government doing to make sure that train operating
companies allow disabled passengers to travel? I have
been told that in the past disabled passengers were
able to turn up at the station and travel in the
guard’s van like a parcel. However unacceptable that
is, we are taking that away. Do the Government accept
that by encouraging train operating companies to take
guards off trains, they are contributing to a breach of
the Disability Discrimination Act?
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I would be very concerned at any suggestion that it is
appropriate, in any way shape or form, for passengers
with a disability to travel in the guard’s van. Indeed,
most of our rolling stock these days does not have a
guard’s van to travel in. Like the hon. Lady, I have
received a number of worrying complaints. I have met
the Office of Rail and Road, which scrutinises the
licence conditions under which all train operating
companies operate. It is conducting a very careful
evaluation of the thresholds for triggering licence
conditions, which is why it is doing a mystery shopping
exercise. Over and above that, I want to ensure that
where individual passengers have an inadequate level of
service, they too have a route to go down to seek
redress from train operating companies.
Departmental Plans
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14. What discussions he has had with the Chancellor of
the Exchequer on plans for his Department to be set out
in the 2017 spring Budget. [908853]
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I regularly meet the Chancellor, and plans for the
spring Budget have been included in those discussions.
At the autumn statement, my Department was allocated
over £2 billion of additional funding as part of the
wider national productivity investment fund. My focus
is on making the best possible use of that funding for
travellers and passengers across the country.
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The collapse in the value of the pound has led to steep
rises in fuel costs for motorists. Will the Secretary
of State impress on the Chancellor the need to avoid
any rise in fuel duty in the forthcoming Budget?
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I am very proud that the Government, having inherited a
fuel duty escalator from the Labour party, have been
very good at keeping fuel duty down over the years. The
hon. Gentleman will be aware that one current pressure
is the rise in the oil price. I am certain that he will
be confident that the Chancellor will keep this matter
constantly under review, as the Government have
demonstrated how important it is to be thoughtful about
motorists when it comes to costs.
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17. As my right hon. Friend knows, Brecon and
Radnorshire is the most beautiful part of the country
to visit. With the height of the tourism season fast
approaching, will he push the lacklustre Welsh Labour
Government to spend more money to provide improvements
to link roads in mid-Wales, so that even more people
can discover what my right hon. Friend already
knows? [908857]
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I have both visited my hon. Friend and holidayed in his
constituency, so I know that it is indeed a lovely area
and we encourage people from around United Kingdom to
visit it on a regular basis. He will be aware of how
important we regard the transport links to such areas.
On the English side of the border, we will always seek
to ensure the right connectivity is in place to support
tourism. It is simply a shame that the Welsh Labour
Government have proved so ineffective in such a wide
variety of ways of working.
Taxi and Private Hire Vehicle Regulation
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16. What assessment he has made of the adequacy of taxi
and private hire vehicle regulation. [908855]
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At the request of the Department for Transport, the Law
Commission conducted a comprehensive review of taxi and
private hire regulation in England and Wales. The
Government are currently considering all the
recommendations in the report, against the background
of a rapidly changing industry. We will formally
respond to the Law Commission and announce our
intentions once that scrutiny is completed.
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That is useful. However, I share Stockton Borough
Council’s concern at the fact that a taxi driver whose
licence had been revoked following inappropriate
conduct with young female passengers was able to go on
working for the same company, driving a minibus. There
are countless other examples, including examples of sex
offenders doing likewise with public service vehicle
licences. When will the Government actually do
something, and change the law to close this loophole?
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Loopholes are, of course being closed, and we are
working with the Home Office on the issue, but it is
critically important and has, I think, united the House
before. We can have a further conversation about it
outside the Chamber.
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The theme continues. Last month, two taxi drivers in
Southend who had been stripped of their licences by the
council were found to be working in the town once
again, having simply gone to another authority to
obtain licences. The Conservative councillor
responsible for such matters has been quoted as saying
that the loophole has left the council
“impotent to protect the public.”
Does the Minister think it reasonable for the council
to be left “impotent”? When will the Government
actually take some action?
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In fact, we are strengthening the law in this area. The
Government tabled an amendment to the Bill that became
the Policing and Crime Act 2017 to allow the issuing of
statutory guidance to licensing authorities. That is
obviously work in progress. This is a critical issue
which is taken seriously by the Department and also by
the Home Office, and action is clearly being taken.
Roads: East England
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18. What steps his Department is taking to improve the
road system in east England. [908858]
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My hon. Friend is well aware of the investment that we
have made in the A47, which affects his constituency
and indeed mine, to some degree. I know that he has
been a consistent and effective campaigner for
improvements to the road, and I look forward to
continuing to work with him to complete those
improvements.
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Given that nearly 30 years ago, back in 1988, the then
Transport Secretary promised to dual the entire length
of the A47, will the Minister give serious priority to
the six schemes that are currently planned, and ensure
that they start as soon as possible?
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There is indeed a series of schemes for improvements
along the road, particularly in the parts where it
could be dualled, and, as my hon. Friend will know,
Highways England is looking into the matter. However, I
think that I should meet my hon. Friend on the road,
with representatives of Highways England and my
officials, to look at the specificity of this, because
I owe him and the House that at least.
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I am sure that the image will be graphically captured
for posterity.
Topical Questions
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T1. If he will make a statement on his departmental
responsibilities. [908863]
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As you know, Mr Speaker, we are a Government who make big
decisions and are ambitious for the future of our
country. This is an important week for my Department in
terms of legislation. We will shortly see the Bus
Services Bill back in the House of Commons to bring
improvements to bus services throughout the country;
earlier in the week we introduced the Vehicle Technology
and Aviation Bill, which will ensure that we are at the
head of the game when it comes to the new generation of
vehicle technology; we have published, in draft, the
Spaceflight Bill, which will also take us forward in an
important area of new technology; and, as we heard
earlier, this is the week in which we see the completion
of the progress of the High Speed Rail (London - West
Midlands) Bill.
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The current Highways England scheme for improvements to
the A64, which is a key road in my constituency, involves
spending £135 million on a roundabout when what we need
is a dual carriageway between York and Malton. Will the
Minister agree to meet me and members of the A64 Growth
Partnership to discuss how we can secure the best scheme
for local residents and the best value for the taxpayer?
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We are well aware of the importance of the A64 to my hon.
Friend’s constituency and, indeed, to the economy of
Yorkshire. I should be happy to meet my hon. Friend, as
will my hon. Friend the roads Minister. We will ensure
that progress in the road’s development continues as we
move towards the start of the next investment period.
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A report by the Office of Rail and Road on Highways
England revealed that the road investment strategy is in
chaos. The agency is £1 billion over budget, the cost of
31 projects has more than doubled, and there is little
evidence that 60 major schemes can be delivered on time.
The strategy is beginning to look more like a fantasy
wish list than a deliverable plan to improve England’s
road network. Will the Minister take this opportunity to
try to reassure the House that it is not the comedy of
errors that it appears to be, and will he guarantee to
deliver it on time and on budget?
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Let us be clear about the road investment programme. It
is a £13 billion programme that is currently delivering
improvements around the country, and is on track. It is
absolutely not the disaster that the hon. Gentleman says
it is. Let me also remind him—Conservative Members will
remember—how ineffective 13 years of Labour government
were in dealing with infrastructure challenges. We will
not be taking any lessons from Labour Members.
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It is about time the Government took responsibility.
Labour has been warning consistently that this Government
have been over promising and under delivering on
investment in England’s road network. We were promised
the biggest upgrade in a generation, but the ORR is now
warning of the deterioration of England’s roads. The
number of people killed and seriously injured on our
roads is already rising, so can the Minister explain how
he will guarantee road user safety and mitigate the
increased safety risk caused by his Government’s failure
to manage investment in England’s roads?
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The Labour party neglected our roads for 13 years. The
hon. Gentleman needs to travel around the country today
and see the schemes that they did not do, that we are
doing: dualling the A1; building the link road between
the M56 and the M6; smart motorways; starting the
progress, finally, on the A303 and developing the tunnel
there; as well as smaller schemes around the country.
Last week I was in Staffordshire, seeing an important
improvement to the A50. None of that happened when the
Labour party was in power. It is, frankly, bare-faced
cheek to hear them saying what they are saying now. I
also remind the hon. Gentleman that in the autumn
statement we provided an additional £75 million to
improve Britain’s most dangerous roads.
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T5. I was hoping to ask some questions about spaceflight,
but, sadly, when others are able to focus on the stars,
some of us are stuck in the gutter just outside East
Croydon waiting for Southern rail to get us in. Can the
Secretary of State tell us a little bit about not just
how Tim Peake is getting to the space station, which is
obviously wonderful, but how some of us can, perhaps, get
into London Bridge on time? [908867]
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My hon. Friend is identifying the fact that the problems
on the Southern rail network are not simply about the
trains; they are also about the track and infrastructure.
That is why we are now spending £300 million, in addition
to the money I announced last September, on things like
points replacement, track replacement, and replacing the
small things on the infrastructure that go wrong
regularly and cause frustrating delays for commuters. We
are now moving ahead with that quickly, and it is very
important in making sure that my hon. Friend spends less
time on a train outside East Croydon and more time in
this House asking about space.
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T2. The Minister has told us today that he is pursuing
the interests of consumers, but can he explain why we
still have no timescale for UK drivers of Volkswagen cars
to have them fixed and compensation paid, as has happened
for US consumers, and will he tell us who in the UK
Government will be taking responsibility as they face
legal action from the EU Commission for their poor
response to the scandal? [908864]
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Having been a little unkind to the Scottish National
party earlier, let me be rather more generous now: the
hon. Lady is right, and this is a matter for the whole
House to work together on. As I made absolutely clear
earlier, Volkswagen’s behaviour has been unacceptable. It
is vitally important that we move ahead with rigour, but
with care, too, to make sure that consumers are properly
dealt with by Volkswagen as a result of this unacceptable
behaviour.
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As most of East Anglia has a two-track railway at best,
does my right hon. Friend accept that it is very
difficult to reconcile the ambitions of the Mayor to have
increased frequency services to inner London train
stations while there is a growing need for faster
services to Norwich, Chelmsford, Stansted airport and
Cambridge, without providing extra track capacity at key
points?
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My right hon. Friend is certainly right to observe that
on any crowded part of the network—be it in the
south-east or elsewhere—we have to make choices over the
stations that are served. He rightly points out that that
choice will involve outer stations in the south-east
versus inner London stations. I can certainly assure him
that this ministerial team is more than aware of those
challenges, and I am sure my officials can benefit from
his wisdom on this part of the network and look forward
to his meeting with them.
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T3. Today marks another step towards the national folly
that is High Speed 2. May I beg the Secretary of State,
even at this late stage? Here is a project that is
totally out of control in terms of expenditure—zooming
past £60 billion—with the chief executive having
resigned. Will the Secretary of State change his mind,
and invest this money in fast network rail in the north
of England and the NHS? [908865]
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Of course, it is not an either/or. We are currently
spending money on the Ordsall Chord in Manchester, which
will provide a dramatic improvement to services in the
Manchester area and enable more services across the
Pennines. We also have the most ambitious improvement
plan that the northern rail network has seen in modern
times. So I am very proud of what we are doing
transport-wise in the north of England. I would simply
say that if we are going to meet the capacity challenges
of the future, we are going to need to build a new
railway line, and if we are going to build something new,
why would we not build something state-of-the-art? That,
I am afraid, is the view of the overwhelming majority of
Members of this House?
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The Minister of State will recall our meeting in December
with representatives of Vivergo Fuels, where jobs are
under threat. The renewable transport fuel obligation
consultation has now closed. Will he enlighten us as to
when he is going to make a decision and lift those
threats of redundancy?
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My hon. Friend is right to suggest that we are looking
closely at these matters following the consultation. He
will know that I held a meeting with all those concerned
recently. We will consider the representations that we
have received and make a decision as soon as possible.
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T4. In the light of this morning’s release from the
Government, what guarantee can the Minister give us that
any savings resulting from reducing pay-outs to innocent
victims of motor traffic accidents will be passed on to
drivers? [908866]
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We are working hard to ensure that the benefits of
technology and improvements in road safety are passed on
to drivers through motor insurance premiums. We are
working particularly with younger drivers, and a research
programme on this is under way. I will write to the hon.
Gentleman with details of the work we are undertaking.
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I am sure the whole House will be disappointed that my
hon. Friend the Member for Tonbridge and Malling (Tom
Tugendhat) was unable to ask about space flight, so will
my right hon. Friend the Minister please set out what
steps he is taking to ensure that the UK becomes the
world leader in commercial space flight?
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Ah, the final frontier! And who better to take us there
than Britons? Our journey to the stars will be informed,
and we will become the premier site for satellite
launches and lead the way in commercial space flights, as
we set out in our document earlier this week. Mr Speaker,
I see you as Captain Kirk and me as Mr Spock. Other parts
will be played by members of the cast.
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We will leave that open to the imagination, but I think
it is safe to say that the right hon. Gentleman will
always shine brightly on the outer edges of the galaxy.
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At the last Transport questions, and again today, the
Minister of State, the right hon. Member for South
Holland and The Deepings (Mr Hayes) has been bullish
about Volkswagen executives facing criminal charges for
the diesel emissions scandal in the UK. How is that
going?
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It is important that we work with the Germans on this.
The tests were done in Germany, and they have much of the
evidence that we need to proceed with all that we are
doing to force Volkswagen to do the right thing. It is
also important that we work with and support the private
prosecution that is being brought by consumers. I am
doing both, and I will bring the results of all that work
back to the House in due course. The hon. Gentleman can
be sure that I am absolutely determined to defend the
interests of people against this soulless corporate
behaviour.
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The A27 Reference Group has long campaigned for
investment, and my constituency of Wealden—and especially
my town of Hailsham—are in desperate need of modern
roads. Will the Minister agree to meet me and
representatives of the A27 Reference Group to discuss how
we can secure extra funding for the A27?
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I can hardly wait. Coffee, tea, supper—whatever my hon.
Friend wishes. I will be happy to meet her and her
friends to consider these matters.
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T7. Seeing the first Aventra train undergoing trials on
the existing Crossrail network east of Liverpool Street
earlier this month was a proud moment for the workers at
Bombardier, and indeed for the whole east midlands rail
supply chain. Given Bombardier’s success with sales of
Aventra to the East Anglia franchise, does the Minister
share my hope that we will see this train being deployed
more widely across Britain? [908870]
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Yes, but I actually have a slightly different ambition. I
have an ambition to see that train deployed in other
countries as well. I have already told the Japanese
Transport Minister that, although he has good trains on
the suburban network in Tokyo, our Bombardier trains from
Derby are better and that he should buy some for his
network.
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Back on planet Earth, the recent ASLEF ballot was
obviously disappointing, and the guarantee of a second
person on the train clearly remains a bone of contention.
Will the Secretary of State consider making it a
performance indicator measure when, in exceptional
circumstances, a train leaves without that second person?
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I am happy to look carefully at that option. It is not my
policy or the Government’s policy to remove people from
trains. Ways of working will change, but we will need
more people, not fewer, delivering services to customers
on our railways as demand grows.
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T8. Some 54% of all train delays in Scotland are due to
the Tory Government’s responsibility for Network Rail, so
the Secretary of State must agree with my colleagues here
and in the Scottish Government that critical functions,
such as capacity planning, major projects delivery, and
legal and property management relating to Scotland, could
and should be devolved to the Scottish Parliament. Are
the Government sitting on their hands for purely
political reasons, and not because it is in the best
interests of the people of Scotland? [908872]
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The thing is that I have seen the SNP make such a hash of
education in Scotland that I do not trust it with the
transport system. We benefit from having a national rail
infrastructure operator as part of the United Kingdom.
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Is the Secretary of State in a position to confirm that
Bradford will be one of the stations on the northern
powerhouse rail?
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I imagine that there is a strong case for that. We are
waiting to see what Transport for the North has to say
about northern powerhouse rail, but I will be surprised
if Bradford does not feature in those plans.
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I support the hon. Member for Cleethorpes (Martin
Vickers) in raising the issue of Vivergo Fuels and the
danger that the 2% crop cap may pose to an important
local business. Will the Minister meet MPs of all parties
from the region to consider the matter before determining
what to do?
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I have had meetings about that. I know how closely the
hon. Gentleman has worked with colleagues from across the
House to promote the interests of his constituents and
others. I will happily have more meetings. It is a
challenging matter, but we must get it right. The hon.
Gentleman is right that we do not want unintended
consequences, so I will of course be delighted to meet.
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Will my right hon. Friend update the House on the
proposals for Crossrail 2? If there are to be any delays,
will he tell us what can be done about overcrowding on
our trains, such as the one I was on this morning, in the
meantime?
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I am waiting for Transport for London to deliver the
business case for Crossrail 2. I am expecting that in the
next few weeks, but we are taking action on capacity in
the meantime. I will be at Waterloo station this
afternoon to see one of the new generation of trains that
will be operating in the coming months on the routes that
serve both our constituencies. The works taking place at
Waterloo this summer will allow 10-coach trains, rather
than eight-coach trains, to serve our suburban networks.
That is good news for passengers.
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The Department for Transport is currently consulting on
the airports national policy statement. Why are residents
in Chiswick, Brentford, and Osterley not being told in
that consultation that the approach path to runway three
will be over their heads? Will he meet my constituents to
explain the noise impact that the runway will have?
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The important thing to understand about the consultation,
and about airspace management in particular, is that more
precise technology will enable us to provide a much more
varied management of airspace in a way that minimises
impacts on communities. Much more precise flightpaths are
one of several measures that we can take to minimise
those impacts. We have been pretty clear in the
consultation. We are consulting all the areas that will
be affected by the airport’s expansion, and we are
expressing a desire for views and opinions from across
the House and across the affected areas.
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