Asked by Lord Addington To ask His Majesty’s Government how they
plan to mitigate the safety risks of reinforced autoclaved aerated
concrete in schools and to ensure the swift deployment of financial
assistance for necessary maintenance and construction upgrades.
Lord Addington (LD) My Lords, as the Chamber empties, the first
thing I should say on this debate is to remind everybody listening
of what we are talking about: reinforced autoclaved aerated
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To ask His Majesty’s Government how they plan to mitigate the
safety risks of reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete in schools
and to ensure the swift deployment of financial assistance for
necessary maintenance and construction upgrades.
(LD)
My Lords, as the Chamber empties, the first thing I should say on
this debate is to remind everybody listening of what we are
talking about: reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. It is a
type of concrete of which I have heard some very picturesque
descriptions—“a cement Aero bar” was my favourite. I am not quite
sure what that confectionery has done to deserve comparison to
this substance, but we are talking about a type of concrete that
does not have aggregates in it, and thus is light, with its
strength given by putting steel strips in it. It is used in
things such as roofs and walls. In Britain, it is used very
heavily in roofs. It is fine if it is kept dry and
well-maintained. Unfortunately, it has been used in school roofs.
Whatever you say about schools’ maintenance budgets, we can all
agree that they have not been that great or consistent, and
anybody who has ever owned a house knows that you cannot
guarantee not to have leaks. We have in schools a substance which
is porous, above your head and can collapse. This is not a good
starting point.
The timeline for when trouble was first spotted is incredible.
This issue was first raised in 1996. In 1999, the Standing
Committee on Structural Safety maintained that we should be
identifying it. We have had this problem a long time and we have
not dealt with it. We waited until the situation got critical,
when things started falling down, and then had to run around
trying to do something about it. This is where we have got to.
What has been the result? We have schools which are unsafe—when
your classroom ceiling comes in, you cannot teach in it.
Here we come to the real nub of the matter: children’s education
is affected. We find classrooms that are not fit for purpose and
potentially dangerous, and we have to take remedial action. We
can bandy around figures about just how many, but a few hundred
schools are affected and tens of schools have actually been
collapsing. In certain key cluster areas, the construction
pattern of previous years has led to schools that do not work and
pupils who are not being educated. Largely, they are the same
pupils who have already had their school life disrupted by the
Covid lockdown. This Chamber has talked often enough about not
getting enough children into school. We have a historically high
absentee rate. Across schools we have children who are not
functioning in their classrooms, and we have this thrown in.
Then we see that the maintenance of schools has usually been
something that people have wanted to put off for another day. We
have not had the drive to make sure schools are maintained. We
have not spotted the problem and now we have this nice little
crisis coming down and pushing in. The Government’s response has
been, “Oh, terrible! Let’s stop going in and let’s take money
from somewhere else, roughly in the budget, and push it in here
as a priority”. This effectively means that you are robbing Peter
to pay Paul—moving money around within the school budget. So we
are going to have other problems in other areas, and there are
already other problems in the school infrastructure package—we
know that.
One of the things that brought this issue to my attention was the
“Panorama” programme showing temporary classrooms that were older
than the teachers in them. I ask the Government this: if you are
bringing in temporary structures, what is their life expectancy
and where will that be reported? Before this debate, the Local
Government Association came to me and said, in effect, “By the
way, it has always been clear as mud as to where we have these
problems”. Can we have some guarantee that we will take the
information about where the problems have been identified and
pass it on to those who will have to make the budgetary
decisions? That is one of the things that we should do on the way
through.
The second thing is that we simply must make sure that the
schools that have this issue get the extra funding they need to
deal with the situation now. If we strip the budget or move
things around, we will create more problems across the piece.
What is the Government’s attitude to making sure that funding
goes directly to this problem now, and quickly? We have had
emergency funding before, and okay, the figures will sound big.
The Government will then tell us that we are spending more money
than we have ever spent before. Last night, we had a debate about
financial education. One of the things we did not mention was
inflation. Inflation means that you will always spend more money
on a project today than you did yesterday. Some of the figures I
have received estimate that, in real terms, our budget has been
consistently lower than at any time since around 2003.
What are we going to do to make sure that the immediate need is
met? We have a situation where children who should be in a
classroom and should be being taught are not. We then have extra
costs being lumbered on people, such as for temporary
accommodation and moving children around. They are not
concentrating; it is going to be more difficult. Some will come
through and some wonderful teachers will pick up the slack, but
any system that says you have to be a little lucky and a bit
special has a degree of failure in it; if you have to be very
lucky and very special, it is a total failure.
Can the Minister tell us how the Government mean to mitigate this
quickly and keep track of what they have done, so that we can
come back in and make sure that temporary solutions are not
becoming permanent ones? That is an important facet here. The
temporary classroom that sits in the corner of a school estate
should be gone in five or 10 years. It should not be waiting for
its third refit.
(LD)
Not 10 years.
(LD)
My noble friend’s comment suggests that I am being hopelessly
optimistic in my assessment there; I look forward to hearing from
him later.
Can we have some guidance from the Government showing that they
will make sure that the Treasury helps the department, because
that is where the money comes from? The current Prime Minister
has been Chancellor. If he did not give money in the past, it is
time to give it now—or to encourage his friend in Downing Street
to ensure that there is enough money to deal with this issue. Its
oncosts are incredibly high, not just for the establishment but
for pupils and teachers in particular. This is where we should
concentrate. I hope that, when the Minister replies to this short
debate, we will get an idea of how that will be achieved. If we
just move money within the estate—an estate that needs more
repairs—we will not achieve it. We might not even deal with the
RAAC problem—it will have gone—but there will be other problems.
It is important that we make sure that the school estate is in
better condition and that those working in it can function
properly. This is the least we owe our pupils.
I hope that the Government will have a positive response for me,
and will tell me that they are going to punch through and make
sure that the Treasury coughs up. I do not expect that but I hope
for it. I beg to move.
3.44pm
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, , for securing this debate on
a subject that has already been raised in this House and is
adversely affecting a significant minority of our schools. I pay
tribute to those hard-pressed and sometimes overstressed heads,
teachers, ancillary staff and pupils who are still having to cope
with this on a daily basis; it really is having an effect on the
ordinary running of some of our schools across our nation. I
think, for example, of the staff and students of St Leonard’s
Catholic School in County Durham, who have been extremely
adversely affected by this crisis; the pupils are still being
taught in temporary classrooms five months on. The DfE announced
this week that it cannot make any exam dispensations for the GCSE
and A-level students at this school, despite experts advising a
10% boost to grades to compensate for disruption to
education.
Will the Minister consider carrying out an assessment to
ascertain whether results at schools that have been adversely
disrupted by the RAAC crisis are lower than those projected or
expected at schools where education has not been disrupted—and,
if results are shown to be considerably lower, to see it as a
case for any regrading or adjusting of exams? I ask that we
remember that exam results will shape the futures and the
aspirations of these young people, and it would seem a great
injustice to pupils from a handful of schools if they were
severely disadvantaged simply because their school buildings were
not fit for purpose. The National Audit Office and the Public
Accounts Committee have both called for the department to set
date targets for the eradication of reinforced autoclaved aerated
concrete in schools. Can the Minister confirm whether a target
for the eradication of RAAC will be determined, as the Department
for Health and Social Care has done for the NHS estate?
The Association of School and College Leaders has pointed out
that parents are taking their children out of those schools that
are affected by RAAC over concerns about disruption to their
education and a lack of access to facilities such as science
labs. Schools affected by the RAAC crisis are seeing their school
rolls drop. Not only are current numbers of pupils dropping, but
RAAC-affected schools are reporting reduced admission
applications for this coming September. Given that pupil numbers
are one of the ways the Government determine funding, will the
Minister consider what financial support or protections can be
put in place for these schools?
My final point is that the RAAC crisis is one part of what is a
much wider backlog of maintenance and repair that is desperately
needed across our school estate. I know that many noble Lords
will have heard this statistic quoted before: a National Audit
Office report from last year showed that there were around
700,000 children being taught in unsafe or ageing buildings.
Earlier this month, one primary school in Devon reported
temperatures being so low that children were keeping their gloves
and coats on during lessons—and this school did not even qualify
for any extra money for repairs.
The Association of School and College Leaders has also called on
the Government to commit new money for the removal of RAAC,
rather than using money that was already set aside for buildings
and is desperately needed for the ongoing and already promised
repairs programme. I echo this call and ask the Minister to
confirm that schools identified as a priority for rebuilding for
other issues, not RAAC issues, will still be getting the funding
they need during the coming years.3.49pm
(LD) [V]
My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend on securing this important
debate. It is always a pleasure to follow the right reverend
Prelate the . I declare my interests
as vice-chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Fire Safety and
Rescue Group, and as a vice-president of the Local Government
Association.
I have an interest in safety in school buildings since my
children’s primary school, Mayfield in Cambridge, of which I was
also chair of governors, was severely damaged by fire in
September 2004. It took 100 firefighters eight hours to bring the
blaze under control and, importantly, despite Cambridgeshire
County Council providing a perfect alternative site close to the
school within two weeks, there is no doubt that the many months
of rebuild were disruptive to the children’s education, not to
mention the emotional distress caused by the destruction of their
beloved local school.
Part of the problem was that the structure of the building
exacerbated the fire damage. The early 1960s model was
commonplace across the country, but it emerged that the large
metal window frames were the major structural feature holding the
top of the walls and the single-storey roof in place. One small
fire started by an arsonist caused significant damage.
That is why I have campaigned for sprinklers in new schools or
school buildings, but it is equally important to ensure that
schools are built from the right materials. Just yesterday,
Blatchington Mill School in Hove, which had one department
damaged badly by a fire earlier this year, had to tell parents
that the damage caused by smoke and water means that the school
as a whole cannot reopen until after half-term at the earliest. I
do not know the structure of this school but, once again,
significant damage, including to electricity, gas and water
supplies, could have been avoided if sprinklers were installed,
as water damage would have been restricted to just one small
department and there would have been no spread of smoke damage to
the rest of the building, which has meant that none of the pupils
can return yet.
The Minister wrote to the All-Party Parliamentary Fire Safety and
Rescue Group on 4 October, saying:
“I would like to confirm that I have already spoken with
departmental officials, who will re-review the data that has been
provided”.
The letter refers to a cost-benefit analysis of sprinklers and
the effect on children’s education of a fire, with a consultation
on Fire Safety Design for Schools—BB 100.
The all-party group has some concerns about the risk assessment
of the impact that a fire has on children’s education and
attainment levels. Time does not permit me to go into the detail,
but our experts believe that some of the underlying assumptions
used by the DfE were flawed. We also heard that the DfE is going
to appoint a fire engineer; despite the all-party group writing
to and meeting regularly with Ministers on this issue for more
than 15 years, we welcome the fact that there will now be someone
inside the department who understands the issues relating to
buildings and fire.
I have two questions for the Minister. First, has the fire
engineer now been appointed? If the answer is yes, have they
started work? Secondly, as the Minister said that she would not
come to a meeting of the all-party group but was prepared to meet
with the officers, will she now undertake to do so as soon as
practicable?
As my noble friend outlined, the RAAC scandal
is also keeping children out of school. I pay tribute to my noble
friend for his highlighting of the damage that this does to the
education of children. After many years of concern by experts and
the construction industry, in September, the Government announced
that any school buildings with RAAC needed to be closed until
they had been checked.
As with Mayfield Primary School’s extraordinary windows story,
RAAC was a cheap construction component installed between the
1950s and 1970s. It transpires that many other public buildings,
hospitals and universities contain RAAC, so this issue is a stark
warning to the public sector about ensuring that buildings are
built safely and to last. What advice is being given to schools
about how to build safe and long-lasting schools for the future,
even if they cost a small amount more at the time of
construction? It is becoming so evident that methods used between
50 and 70 years ago are costing us dear.
In December, it was reported that nearly 1,000 schools were
believed to contain combustible materials similar to those used
in Grenfell Tower. Shockingly, a further 120 school projects
under way since the Grenfell Tower fire have been built using
combustible facade insulation. While it is important to note that
this is now to be banned, the DfE still forbids the installation
of sprinklers.
Rockwool, which makes non-flammable cladding, commissioned a
report that identified a total of more than 1,000 school and
university buildings erected since 2013 using combustible
cladding. An article in the i newspaper last autumn reported that
heads across the country are furious with these problems of
safety in their school buildings, not just with RAAC and
combustible cladding but with the continued discovery of problems
with asbestos.
Daniel Kebede, the general secretary of the National Education
Union, said that government spending on schools is a third of
that spent in 2010, and the president of the Royal Institute of
British Architects has called for remediation and urgent funding
by the DfE of all repairs.
This means that school estates cannot be repaired without
impacting on the teaching element of school budgets, and that
replacement of unsafe or flammable buildings, whether RAAC,
cladding, or lack of sprinklers, is patchy at best, rather than
repairs bringing buildings up to a safe standard for the future.
I urge the Government to take these concerns on board and not
only build and repair schools that need it, so that they will
last for many years into the future. That will ensure that our
children, their teachers and other staff can learn and teach in a
safe environment for many years to come.
3.56pm
(UUP)
My Lords, I also congratulate the noble Lord, , on securing this debate
about an important matter which was clearly high on the political
agenda last autumn but no longer has such prominence. One can
only hope that this indicates that the problem is being properly
addressed. I look forward to hearing what the Minister has to say
in that regard from the Dispatch Box.
As your Lordships will be aware, the issue of RAAC in school
buildings is UK-wide. However, thus far, it has been found at
just one school in Northern Ireland, Cairnshill Primary School in
south Belfast. That discovery, in November, prompted the
Department of Education in Northern Ireland to speed up surveys
at 180 schools across the Province, with 120 schools having
already been inspected at that point.
My understanding is that no further evidence of RAAC in Northern
Ireland schools has yet been found. However, while this news is
most welcome, there can clearly be no room for complacency, in
order to properly protect pupils, teachers and staff at the
almost 1,100 schools in the Province. Had RAAC not been
discovered in any school in Northern Ireland, perhaps local
residents could rest a little easier. But, by the simple laws of
probability, one case would suggest that there are likely to be
more instances yet to be found.
Sometimes it is easy for us to be slightly overcritical, and we
perhaps do not praise public servants as often as we should. In
that vein, I am advised that staff at the Department of Education
and the Education Authority in Northern Ireland have been
thoroughly professional, swift and helpful throughout the
inspection process. I place on record my sincere thanks to them
for their attention to detail and professionalism. Given the
absence of Ministers at Stormont since the RAAC issue emerged, I
suggest that they deserve even more credit for their efforts. I
know that schools, parents and, indeed, teaching unions are
grateful for what has been done. I hope that the possible
appointment of an Education Minister to a reformed Northern
Ireland Executive in the coming days will help rather than hinder
their efforts.
In the meantime, I ask the Minister this: what contact have she,
her ministerial colleagues or her officials had with the
Department of Education in Northern Ireland to ensure that what
can be done to guarantee safe school buildings across the
Province is being done?
Also, the topical Question by the noble Lord, , which is the subject of
this debate, rightly refers to the need for
“the swift deployment of financial assistance for necessary
maintenance and construction upgrades”
caused by RAAC in schools. However, I imagine that the operation
to find RAAC, and carry out remedial work where required, will
also be costly.
Both the noble Lord, , and the right reverend
Prelate the repeatedly and rightly
stressed the consequences if funding is not allocated properly
and on time. Can the Minister therefore assure me, particularly
given the parlous state of the public finances in the Province of
Northern Ireland, that any RAAC-associated overheads incurred by
schools and funding bodies in Northern Ireland will be fully
reimbursed by His Majesty’s Government?4.00pm
(LD)
My Lords, I begin by declaring my interest as a vice-president of
the Local Government Association. I thank my noble friend for initiating this
debate.
I pay tribute to all the teachers, staff, governors and parents
who have coped during this very difficult situation. Anybody who
saw “Panorama” could not help but be shocked by the effect on
schools and schooling. Pupils face misery, with governors and
head teachers struggling to cope and make alternative
arrangements. Some 227 schools are unable to deliver face-to-face
teaching to all their students, with 23 schools having to
implement mixed-age teaching. The impact on those schools,
whether of temporary classrooms, being bussed miles away to safer
schools, or hurriedly organised virtual learning, is
immeasurable. The huge effect on mental health and academic
performance, and a lack of social interaction, come on the heels
of the same things happening during the pandemic.
The right reverend Prelate the mentioned St Leonard’s,
which is one of the best-performing schools in the north-east. It
has concluded that school closures and mixed-teaching
arrangements will have seriously affected pupils and their
performance in exams, impacting their anxiety and academic
performance. Paul Whiteman of the National Association of Head
Teachers has said that we
“need a real sense of a clear plan not just to put short-term
mitigation measures in place, but to properly repair or replace
buildings so they are fit for purpose. Propping up ceilings with
metal poles is clearly not a serious option in the medium or long
term”.
It is very easy to get into a blame culture, which I am pleased
to say we have not done, because it helps neither the schools
nor, more importantly, the children and young people. However, we
need a clear commitment from the Government that they have a
clear plan that every affected school can have the provision of
first-rate buildings. Yes, there will be short-term measures
while replacements are planned and built, but it is the long term
that we need to get right. The school of which I was deputy head
had mobile classrooms that had been provided because there had
been a bulge in the birth rate. We were told that we would have
these mobile classrooms for just a few years. They were still
there 20usb years later. Temporary solutions are, as it says on
the jar, temporary; they cannot be there many years later. I hope
the Minister will give a commitment that any mobile classrooms
will be provided for the shortest of periods until permanent
provision can be made.
I have three other things I want quickly to mention. First, I am
sure the Minister will speak to Ofsted to ensure that any
affected schools will not have the added pressures of an Ofsted
inspection. Might she consider making that move?
Secondly, although I think the Minister shook her head, I very
much agree with the right reverend Prelate the that the academic
performance of these young people will be affected in their
all-important summer exams, whether they be GCSEs, T-levels or
A-levels. There needs to be some consideration of how we can
mitigate the effect that this disaster has had on them.
Thirdly, why not use this as an opportunity not just to replace
what has happened, but to actually enhance the school buildings
and make sure that pupils, for all the suffering they have had,
get a much better provision? Let us use this as an
opportunity.
Knowing the Minister, I am sure she will be anxious to do all she
can. I echo the comments of the noble Lord, , and the right reverend
Prelate the that we cannot just
take existing funding which was planned to be spent and use that.
We need to make sure that this is additional money, because it
would be quite wrong that those schools that have been waiting
for some considerable time, whether it be for an extension or a
major repair or whatever, suddenly find that stopped while their
money is used to deal with this particular issue. I hope this is
new money we are talking about; perhaps the Minister could
confirm that as well.
4.05pm
(Lab)
I thank the noble Lord, , for securing this short
debate on a most pressing issue affecting our most precious
resource—our children and young people.
In the answer the Minister gave to me during Oral Questions last
October on this subject, she told me that the Government’s
“overarching efforts are to get children back to normal education
as quickly as possible”.—[Official Report, 23/10/23; col.
383]
However, the drip-drip of schools being added to the RAAC list is
yet more evidence of chaos from this Government, which have no
grip on the extent of crumbling school buildings. One of the
defining images of 14 years of Conservative Government is
children cowering under steel props to stop the roof falling in.
What an unhappy metaphor.
Can the Minister say when a full list of schools affected will
finally be available and how much her department expects this
remedial work to cost? Parents, children and school staff need
urgent reassurance and answers on the steps being taken to
support schools, to ensure children can get back to their normal
classrooms and to rebuild classrooms riddled with unsafe, crumbly
concrete. In early December, the number of schools and colleges
with RAAC stood at 231, when the Secretary of State announced
that a deadline to remove RAAC from every school would be
confirmed in the new year. Is the Minister able to confirm here
what the deadline will be, and when will it be announced?
School leaders remain worried about the disruption to learning,
with children taught in marquees, portable classrooms, sports
halls or off-site. There is a further worry about specialist
spaces, such as science labs, drama studios and design and
technology rooms. There is a call, as the right reverend Prelate
the noted, for examined
students to be given special consideration. As a former A-level
examiner of some 27 years, I can attest to the disruption that
displacement from specialist teaching spaces has on pupil
learning. I urge the Government to engage with the examination
boards to discuss what we call “mitigating circumstances” for
those affected by this disruption.
As noted previously, parents are taking their children out of
schools with dangerous concrete and sending them elsewhere. I
will give just one example: 100 families have asked a council to
move children from two Warwickshire schools affected by unsafe
building materials. ASCL said that an unacceptable wait for
mitigation works meant that parents were starting to
“lose confidence … and vote with their feet”.
Worryingly, however, RAAC is just one issue affecting schools in
England. Some 700,000 children are being taught in unsafe or
ageing buildings, according to a National Audit Office report
last year. When will this downgrading of the school estate cease?
When will real funding be put into making our schools fit for the
present and for the future?
I am sure the Minister will expect me to note that, in Wales, we
were able to continue with our school building and refurbishment
programme over the past 14 years. In terms of RAAC, the situation
in Wales was different from that in other parts of the UK, as
many schools had been built before RAAC was in use. Since RAAC
has stopped being used, we have had 140 new schools built in the
first wave, and another 200 schools as part of the current wave
of investment by the Welsh Government, in partnership with local
government, which runs schools in Wales. This includes both
capital maintenance of the existing school estate and a huge
transformation programme building new schools and colleges.
In England, I believe there are currently 100 unallocated places
on the list for the Government’s 10-year school rebuilding
programme, and it is expected that they will be filled by the
RAAC situation. The Secretary of State told Members of Parliament
earlier this month that she anticipated that there would probably
be more than 100 schools that need rebuilding. With schools
across England in an urgent state of disrepair and with more than
1,200 originally being considered for this fund, experts are
warning that other school building projects are likely to be hit
due to the demand from RAAC-affected schools.
The National Audit Office reported that one of the biggest issues
facing public buildings is the lack of knowledge of the state of
disrepair. The Government have rejected a proposal to have a
register of public holdings in a state of serious disrepair. I
wonder why the Government are hesitant to have such a register.
Last November, the Public Accounts Committee warned that
“the school estate has deteriorated to the point where 700,000
pupils are learning in a school that needs major rebuilding or
refurbishment”.
It was shocked and disappointed by the lack of basic information
from the DfE on the concrete crisis in schools.
I will end my contribution to this debate by echoing the words of
the chair of the Public Accounts Committee, Dame , MP, who said:
“A significant proportion of children in this country are
learning in dilapidated or unsafe buildings. This is clearly
beyond unacceptable, but overcoming the consequences of this
deficit of long-term infrastructure planning will not be easy.
The School Rebuilding Programme was already struggling to stay on
track, and DfE lacked a mechanism to direct funding to regions
which need it most. It risks being blown further off course by
concerns over RAAC, and many schools in dire need of help will
not receive it as a result”.
4.11pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for
Education () (Con)
My Lords, I echo other noble Lords in congratulating the noble
Lord, , on securing this debate on
this very important subject. I take this opportunity to thank all
our school leaders, those working in trust, local authority and
voluntary-aided schools, for their work if they have been
affected by RAAC. As the noble Lord, , pointed out, this has been less
in the public eye recently, and I would like to say that it is
because this is being properly addressed. In addition to my
thanks to those in schools, I add my personal thanks to officials
in the department who have worked tirelessly with schools to try
to resolve this problem.
As we can all agree, the safety of pupils and staff in our
schools and colleges is of the utmost importance. That is why
when new evidence emerged over the summer regarding reinforced
autoclaved aerated concrete—RAAC—we took immediate action to ask
settings to take spaces known to contain RAAC out of use until
mitigations were put in place.
I slightly took exception to some of what the noble Lord, , described in the
Government’s response. The Government have been working on this
issue for a long time with schools and colleges. Indeed, we have
been talking to them about the potential risks of RAAC since
2018, when we published a warning note with the Local Government
Association which asked all responsible bodies—that is, trusts,
local authorities and dioceses—to identify any properties
constructed using RAAC and to ensure that RAAC properties were
regularly inspected by a structural engineer. Again, I do not
think it is fair to describe this as not as clear as mud.
In February 2021, we issued a guide on identifying RAAC. Then we
were concerned that not all responsible bodies were acting
quickly enough. In 2022, we decided to take a more direct
approach by issuing a questionnaire to responsible bodies to ask
them to identify whether they had or suspected they had RAAC, and
then we started a significant programme of technical surveys.
With almost 16,000 schools built in the period when RAAC was
used, that was no small task to undertake.
In July 2023, we emphasised the importance of keeping school
buildings safe and well maintained in the Academy Trust Handbook.
This update included additional content on safety and management
of school estates and a new requirement in the Academies Accounts
Direction for accounting officers to confirm that they are
managing their estates in line with their statutory
responsibilities. I am pleased to confirm that responsible bodies
have submitted responses to the questionnaire for 100% of schools
and colleges with blocks built in the target era. All those which
advised us that they suspected that they might have RAAC have had
a first survey to confirm whether it is present.
The vast majority of schools and colleges surveyed to date have
been found to have no RAAC. The right reverend Prelate the spoke about a
“significant percentage” of schools having RAAC. It is important
to be accurate in how we describe this. There are over 22,000
schools and colleges in England, of which 231—around 1%, which it
is fair to say is not a significant percentage—have confirmed
RAAC in some of their buildings. All education settings with RAAC
are in full-time face-to-face education for all their pupils. In
response to the noble Baroness, Lady Wilcox, we will publish a
full list of all settings shortly.
Every school or college with confirmed RAAC is assigned dedicated
support from our team of caseworkers. Project delivery teams are
on-site to support schools and colleges to implement mitigation
plans. They work with them to put in place bespoke plans that
suit their circumstances.
The noble Lord, , stressed the immediate need
for funding—I think he asked whether we would “punch through”
with the Treasury. We did not need to, because the Chancellor has
confirmed that we will spend whatever it takes to keep children
safe. The Government are funding the emergency work needed to
mitigate the presence of RAAC. This could include installing
structural supports or temporary buildings.
The noble Lord, , talked about disruption. It is
important not to generalise and take the most complicated cases
of RAAC, such as in some of the largest secondary schools and
some of the special schools, which are the hardest cases for
obvious reasons. However, the vast majority of schools did not
lose any face-to-face education.
All reasonable requests for additional help with revenue costs,
such as transport to other locations or temporarily renting a
local hall, are being approved. Responsible bodies should discuss
their requests with their caseworker at the Education and Skills
Funding Agency in the first instance to agree any further support
needed. To address the concerns of the noble Lord, , we are treating RAAC
revenue requests as the highest priority and working closely with
responsible bodies to process their requests as quickly as
possible and ensure that our processes are not burdensome. We can
also arrange urgent payments if needed.
Most importantly, we are funding longer-term refurbishment or
rebuilding projects to replace RAAC. To answer the noble
Baroness, Lady Wilcox, schools and colleges will be offered
either capital grants to fund refurbishment work to permanently
remove RAAC or rebuilding projects where needed, including
through the school rebuilding programme. She asked me about a
target date for removing RAAC. The critical date is that, today,
no child is in a classroom in which they are at risk from RAAC.
We could not say that a few months ago, so we should recognise
that as the important first milestone on the road to replacing it
as appropriate.
The requirements of each school or college will vary depending on
the extent of RAAC and the nature and design of the buildings. We
will be informing schools and colleges very shortly of our
decisions.
The right reverend Prelate asked about the impact of pupil
numbers. The House may be aware that we work on a lagged funding
basis. If there is a fall in pupil numbers, that is softened by
the lagged funding model, but we work with individual schools and
if there are schools with particular pressures, of course we will
work with them to address those.
The noble Lord, , asked about how we support
responsible bodies to ensure that the necessary maintenance and
construction upgrades take place. We support them by providing
capital funding. We have a lot of guidance and support. We have a
team of capital advisers who will go out free of charge and work
with schools and responsible bodies. Of course, if there is an
immediate and serious concern about a building, we work closely
to address that. We have allocated over £15 billion of capital
funding since 2015, including £1.8 billion in this financial
year. That is on top of our 10-year school rebuilding programme.
That programme will transform buildings in 500 schools,
prioritising those in poor condition and with potential safety
issues. We have announced 400 schools so far, of which we
announced 239 in December 2022, and eight have been completed. I
think that there was a concern that schools that will be rebuilt
as a result of RAAC will somehow displace those that are already
in the programme. I assure the House that this is not the
case.
The noble Lord, , asked about Ofsted
inspections. Ofsted did suspend its inspections for schools
affected by RAAC last term, but it is now resuming them, given
that all children are now all in face-to-face education.
The noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, raised the issue of cladding
standards and fire safety. She pointed out the changes that we
have made in the use of combustible cladding. Of course, we are
insisting that automatic fire suppression systems such as
sprinklers are installed in all new schools for children with
special educational needs and disabilities, those with
residential blocks and schools over 11 metres or four storeys in
height. We have updated our guidance for new school buildings to
ensure that we increase the already high fire safety standards in
new schools. I am pleased to be able to confirm that our new fire
engineer started work in the department on 15 January.
In relation to examinations, we recognise that this has been, for
a relatively small number of schools, a tremendous disruption to
education. We are doing everything that we can to work with
settings to give those schools the financial and practical
support to ensure that children in exam years in particular can
catch up as effectively as possible. However, the legislation on
examinations is very clear. Only with a change in legislation
would we be able to make some of the changes which noble Lords
suggested. The legislation is clear that exams show what children
know and can do and not what they might have been able to do if
they had been taught differently or under different
circumstances. It is not possible to make changes to exams to
reflect the impact of disruption on some groups of pupils.
However, we have worked with awarding organisations to facilitate
discussions with affected schools. We have asked them to agree
longer extensions for coursework wherever possible and
non-examined assessments, so that pupils have as much time as
possible to complete those tasks.
I am running out of time, but on the question of the noble Lord,
, about contact with our
counterparts in Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland, we have a
cross-UK group which makes sure that we have the most effective
engagement on these issues.
In closing, I reassure most importantly pupils, parents, teachers
and staff in all our schools and colleges that this has been a
massive focus for the department over many years, but
particularly in the last four months. I particularly thank the
leadership of those teachers who are giving real confidence to
their pupils to overcome the difficulty with which they have been
presented. I thank them personally, from the bottom of my heart.
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