Moved by Lord Harlech That the Grand Committee do consider the Wine
(Amendment) (England) Regulations 2024. Relevant document: 7th
Report from the Secondary Legislation Scrutiny Committee Lord
Harlech (Con) My Lords, I declare my farming and land management
interests as set out in the register. These regulations were laid
before this House on 4 December 2023. The Government are making
this legislation to fulfil obligations on the marketing of wine in
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Moved by
That the Grand Committee do consider the Wine (Amendment)
(England) Regulations 2024.
Relevant document: 7th Report from the Secondary Legislation
Scrutiny Committee
(Con)
My Lords, I declare my farming and land management interests as
set out in the register. These regulations were laid before this
House on 4 December 2023.
The Government are making this legislation to fulfil obligations
on the marketing of wine in the Comprehensive and Progressive
Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership—the CPTPP. This follows
the UK signing the protocol of accession last year. This
instrument will introduce rules that govern how products marketed
as ice wine must be produced and marketed.
Ice wine is a type of dessert wine produced from grapes that have
been frozen while still on the vine. Annual global production of
ice wine is very small but can yield high-quality wines that sell
at premium prices. It is therefore important to make sure that
ice wine is marketed correctly to support consumers in their
choices. Ice wine is currently not produced domestically but it
is imported. The instrument inserts a restriction in Regulation
2019/33 for ice wine where the product can be marketed as ice
wine or under similar terms only if the wine is made exclusively
from grapes naturally frozen on the vine.
The instrument being debated today applies this restriction in
England. For continuity, separate instruments applying to
Scotland and Wales are also being made. This type of imported
wine will continue to be able to move from Great Britain to
Northern Ireland via the Northern Ireland retail movement scheme
under the Windsor Framework.
This instrument will also update the list of oenological
practices, processes and restrictions that may be used in the
production and conservation of wine and other wine products. The
changes are intended to improve the quality of wine and are
highly technical in nature. For example, they include
discontinuous high-pressure processes, which reduce yeast
contamination in wine; they therefore reduce reliance on
sulphites to preserve the wine and help improve its
fermentation.
These changes align with those adopted by the International
Organisation of Vine and Wine—the OIV—since 2019 and approved by
the UK through our membership of that organisation. The Scottish
Government have adopted the same changes and the Welsh Government
are in the process of doing so. This will ensure that producers
across Great Britain will benefit from the latest technological
developments and winemaking practices. Broadly similar provisions
already apply in Northern Ireland. This instrument was notified
to the World Trade Organization’s Committee on Technical Barriers
to Trade and no comments were received.
In summary, this instrument makes technical but necessary changes
to the legislation. It will enable the UK to comply with CPTPP
commitments and ensure that British wine-makers can use the most
up-to-date winemaking techniques. I beg to move.
(LD)
My Lords, noble Lords have many impressive attributes, but being
in two places at once in person is not one of them. So, because
my noble friend Lady Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville is moving
an amendment in the Chamber, the Committee will have to put up
with me.
I thank the Minister for his introduction to this statutory
instrument. This is the second instrument on the provisions
around wine in a short period of time. Is it a trend? Apparently,
the Secondary Legislation Scrutiny Committee has had something to
say about the SIs in both cases and has drawn them to the
attention of the House.
These regulations prohibit the labelling and marketing of wine as
ice wine unless the grapes used have been frozen on the vine as
opposed to being subject to freezing afterwards. I had always
thought that genuine ice wine was exactly that: wine made with
grapes frozen naturally on the vine, concentrating the sugar and
making the wine both delicious and very expensive.
I understand that these regulations are necessary to fulfil the
obligations in the CPTPP, which was signed by the Government in
July last year and debated in the Chamber earlier this afternoon.
I also understand that Canada is a major producer of ice
wine.
This SI applies to wine for the English market only. The Minister
mentioned that Scotland and Wales are progressing their own SIs,
which will fit in with this one. Can he say when it is likely
that those SIs will be in place? There is likely to be
considerable confusion if this is not done quickly, as a bottle
of wine is easily transported across borders; confusion could
result.
There are also likely to be issues around the labelling of ice
wine in Northern Ireland, which is subject to the regulations
that exist in Europe and not those that will pertain under the
CPTPP. Perhaps the Minister can say something about that.
As a member of the International Organisation of Vine and Wine
since 2019, the UK now has to abide by the regulations adopted by
that organisation, which, according to the Explanatory
Memorandum, change on a fairly regular basis. This SI is
temporary and likely to change again in 2025 when it will be
revoked. Can the Minister provide any clarification on whether
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland will at that stage have the
same regulations as England—or will all four nations be operating
under separate arrangements on ice wine? The SLSC raised the
issue of confusion around different rules on ice wine being
applied across the devolved nations, including for methods of
production.
The Explanatory Memorandum, at paragraph 11.1, indicates that the
Government
“will put the necessary guidance regarding measures contained in
the instrument on GOV.UK”
once Parliament has approved it. Is it therefore safe to assume
that this instrument will be presented to the Chamber tomorrow
for approval and that the guidance will appear on the website
later tomorrow afternoon? Given the likelihood of confusion, I
would like the Minister’s reassurance on this matter.
The Wine and Spirit Trade Association is concerned about the
excise duty system and the need to make permanent the temporary
easement mechanism. This is the single most important issue for
the UK wine sector. The temporary easement taxes all wines in the
11.5% to 14.5% ABV range at a single rate of the mean, I suppose:
12.5%. This is due to end on 1 February 2025. If this is not made
permanent, UK businesses will encounter increased bureaucracy and
administrative burdens, and therefore increased costs, so will
the Minister speak to his colleagues in the Treasury to make this
easement permanent and thus support our flourishing wine
industry?
This is a fairly straightforward SI which is linked to the CPTPP,
and presumably ice wine will begin to appear on our supermarket
shelves correctly labelled in the fairly near future, but I do
not think I will be able to afford it.
(Con)
My Lords, it is very difficult to follow the noble Baroness after
such an erudite speech, but I have a few quick questions to put
to my noble friend. As I see it, this statutory instrument is
being introduced only because we need to meet the requirements
and obligations on the marketing of wine in the Comprehensive and
Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership. There is
nothing intrinsically necessary in the labelling of ice wine that
would otherwise have required legislation.
I therefore turn to why we are doing this and why it was
originally agreed. I am sure the Minister has had many a glass of
fine ice wine, not least from Canada or Germany. The definition
of ice wine is that the grapes are left on the vine, as my noble
friend said, until the temperature drops to a specific level,
which I think is between minus 8 degrees and minus 14 degrees
Celsius, which allows the grapes to freeze naturally. Then, when
the pressing takes place, they are quickly harvested and pressed
while still frozen, the frozen water content remains in the form
of ice crystals and only the concentrated sugary juice is
extracted. If, by chance, the frost passes quite quickly and the
pickers go to the same vineyard and take the grapes from the same
vine during the day, when it is marginally above freezing, can
that still be called ice wine?
Secondly, and related to that, the alternative method of making
ice wine from grapes follows after the harvest: the grapes are
harvested and then artificially frozen to a temperature similar
to that used in the natural freezing on the vine method. Frozen
grapes are pressed much the same and the concentrated juice is
collected, similar to the process with the grapes frozen on the
vine. They do not need to go through the technical stages that my
noble friend has outlined; it could be exactly the same process.
As I understand it, there is therefore a distinction to be made
between ice wine that is made from grapes frozen after harvest
and grapes frozen on the vine, although I challenge the Minister
to tell me the difference, if he were given a blind tasting,
between the two.
So the Minister comes forward with an excellent SI that says we
cannot have anything that is
“a term similar to a term mentioned”
as ice wine. I would be interested to know what a similar term to
ice wine might be. We always want to get the legislation exact. I
imagine that a lengthy court case might ensue as a result of
asking: what is “a term similar to” ice wine? Could it be called
“frosty wine”, for example? Would that be “a term similar to” ice
wine? I know that the noble Baroness, Lady Hayman, has the
opportunity to speak on behalf of the Opposition, but I give the
very fine officials who are sitting behind the Minister the
opportunity to answer those two questions. It would be very
helpful to me and, I am sure, to the Committee to know those
answers.
of Ullock (Lab)
I thank the noble Lord for introducing this statutory instrument.
I will not go into the details of what it is about; he explained
it very well, as has the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, but I
have a few points and questions.
As we have heard, the SI is largely to give effect to the
relevant part of the CPTPP because Canada is the major producer
of ice wine. I have been to a number of vineyards in Canada that
produce ice wine. In fact, I did splash out, buy some and bring
it back. If you have not tried ice wine, it comes in lovely slim
bottles and is very nice indeed. In response to the noble Lord,
, my recollection—I could be
wrong—from the tours of the vineyards is that it has to be
harvested when it is frozen; you cannot defrost the grapes, then
pick them. It is important that we are protecting what is a very
distinctive product, so we clearly support this SI.
While we are on the issue of the CPTPP, are there going to be any
other SIs coming through Defra regarding trade and the CPTPP? I
do not know if the Minister knows the answer but it would be
quite interesting to have a heads-up on that. We have had, as the
noble Baroness said, other SIs on wine. There may not be any
other way around this, and it is no criticism, but Defra seems to
come up with a lot of small SIs. Does it have to be like that?
Could we do them en bloc to be a bit more efficient?
I was interested that in the Minister’s introduction he talked
about the fact that this product is only imported; we clearly do
not make ice wine in this country. It would be interesting to
know the impact of this SI. How much ice wine is imported into
this country? I had never seen it until I went to Canada. What
percentage would no longer be able to be marketed and what is the
actual impact of this statutory instrument? It would be
interesting to know if it has been a problem for the wine
trade.
The Minister also mentioned the Welsh and Scottish instruments
that are likely to come forward through their legislation. Other
noble Lords also mentioned this and the noble Baroness, Lady
Walmsley, asked about the timescales. I note that Defra’s
response to the Secondary Legislation Scrutiny Committee’s
concerns, in its report, explained that there are already rules
in place which mean that this should not be a problem. Even so,
we need to get all our legislative ducks in a row, so it would be
interesting to know the likely timescales.
Finally, I support what the noble Baroness said about the Wine
and Spirit Trade Association’s concerns regarding tax and excise
duty. It has raised a really important point and I support her
request to the Minister that this is discussed with the Treasury
and that the department looks at this seriously.
(Con)
My Lords, I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have
contributed to this brief, but very illuminating, debate on ice
wine and the further measures in this statutory instrument. There
has been consensus on the importance of these changes. Although
ice wine is not produced domestically, but imported, it is really
important that consumers are able to identify products
easily.
The change will assure consumers that only wine that is made from
grapes naturally frozen on the vine is sold as ice wine. Taking
up my noble friend’s point, and as other noble Lords have
mentioned, the change is also necessary for compliance with the
UK’s CPTPP agreement. What good timing that today’s SI debate is
on the same day as that Bill’s Report. Similarly, introducing the
most recent winemaking techniques—let us not forget the second
part of the SI, because it is really important for what is a
growing industry—will enable English wine producers to use the
latest technological advancements and winemaking practices.
6.30pm
I turn now to some of the specific questions raised. The noble
Baroness, Lady Walmsley, talked about Northern Ireland in
relation to the CPTPP. The accession protocol of the UK to the
CPTPP contains a provision that provides for the relationship
between the Windsor Framework and the CPTPP. It ensures that
nothing in the CPTPP will prevent the UK fulfilling its
obligations under the Windsor Framework, which protects Northern
Ireland’s integral place in the union. The United Kingdom as a
whole will accede to the CPTPP and every nation and region of the
UK is expected to benefit from the agreement with members with a
combined GDP worth around 12% of global GDP in 2022. Accession
could enhance the already strong trade links between Northern
Ireland and CPTPP members. Northern Ireland goods exports alone
were worth £0.9 billion in 2022, or 3.5% of total UK exports to
CPTPP countries.
I move on to the other devolved Administrations and the important
issue of timing in Wales and Scotland that was raised. My
understanding—I will go back and correct the record if this is
wrong—is that the SI was passed in Scotland today, and in Wales,
it is scheduled for business in the Senedd on 23 January. All
three SIs are due to come into effect in each country on the same
day, 15 July 2024, so we anticipate no divergence in GB.
In response to the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, on the issue of
making the wine duty easement permanent, the Government
understand that there will be some administrative changes for
businesses in adapting to the new wine duty structure. We have
listened to industry to ensure that these are not unnecessarily
burdensome. There is a transitional measure for 18 months from
August 2023, which will mean that all wine between 11.5% and
14.5% ABV will pay duty as if it were 12.5% ABV. This is a
generous concession to support the wine industry in moving to the
new system.
Noble Lords asked about guidance on ice wine. As I understand it,
the advice will be on GOV.UK after it is announced in the Chamber
but before the SI comes into force. It will not be on GOV.UK
tomorrow afternoon, but it will be there for everyone to see,
importers and consumers, in advance of that July date. I hope
that is satisfactory to noble Lords.
The definition of ice wine is that the grapes must be frozen when
they are picked. I have yet to try it but, having debated this
SI, it is definitely—
of Ullock (Lab)
I shall bring a bottle in.
(Con)
Now that is on the record.
I say again that we have a thriving domestic wine production
industry, which is continuing to grow at speed. WineGB, which
represents most domestic wine producers, reported that 2023 saw
Great Britain’s largest ever grape harvest, which it is estimated
will produce 20 million to 22 million bottles of British wine.
There was overwhelming support for updating these oenological
practices from both our domestic producers and international
trading partners, all understanding the importance of having
access to the latest methodologies.
Finally, on the reforms on wine not being all done in one SI, the
department has been working at pace to drive forward wine reforms
from retained EU law and implementing the reforms in three
phases, the first of which came into force on 1 January this year
to dovetail with the end of an easement relating to importer
labelling. The second instalment, in this SI, is due to come in
in July in time to ratify the CPTPP agreement and now we can
focus on the final phase. I think the logic behind that is that
it is better to keep things moving rather than doing things in
one block, which could have caused uncertainty to producers and
importers.
(Con)
Before my noble friend sits down, I would like to press him on
why, under new paragraph 8(d) in Regulation 2, it is deemed
necessary by the Government to write
“a term similar to a term mentioned in point (a), (b) or (c)”
when those three sub-paragraphs are
“(a)‘ice wine’; (b)‘icewine’; (c)‘ice-wine’”.
It would be helpful to the Committee to give an example of a term
that is similar to ice wine that would be covered by this
statutory instrument.
(Con)
For the benefit of the Committee, it may be useful for me to go
away and consider my noble friend’s question, so as not to detain
the Committee any longer. I will of course go back and look at
Hansard and if there is anything that I have not answered then I
will write, circulate that to all noble Lords and place a copy in
the Library. I hope that I have addressed the majority of issues
raised and that noble Lords will approve this instrument.
Motion agreed.
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