Tim Farron (Westmorland and Lonsdale) (LD) I beg to move, That this
House has considered the matter of transitioning to the Sustainable
Farming Initiative. It is an ongoing pleasure to continue serving
under your guidance this morning, Dame Maria. I welcome hon.
Members to their seats and the Minister to his. I start by wishing
everyone merry Christmas, in the spirit of the debate we have just
had. The sustainable farming incentive is a cornerstone of
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(Westmorland and Lonsdale) (LD)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the matter of transitioning to the
Sustainable Farming Initiative.
It is an ongoing pleasure to continue serving under your guidance
this morning, Dame Maria. I welcome hon. Members to their seats
and the Minister to his. I start by wishing everyone merry
Christmas, in the spirit of the debate we have just had.
The sustainable farming incentive is a cornerstone of the
Government’s environmental land management schemes. The hallmark
of SFI in particular, and ELMS in general, is that public money
should support our farmers for delivering public goods. The
principles underlying that transition are supported by farmers
across the country, by environmental groups and, for what it is
worth, by me. The point of this debate is to issue a plea to the
Minister, the Secretary of State and the Prime Minister that they
start listening to farmers and acknowledge the damage they are
doing to farmers, food production and our environment by the way
they are managing the transition from the old scheme to the
new.
The Conservative manifesto promised £2.4 billion to English
farming, yet in the past year the Government spent only £2.23
billion on various schemes and, crucially, only £1.956 billion of
that went into farming. The Government have, therefore, broken
their promise to farmers to the tune of £444 million last year
and, with the phasing out of the basic payment scheme stepping
up, they are set to break their promise to farmers to an even
greater degree next year.
(Somerton and Frome) (LD)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this important debate.
Recent figures show a remarkably low uptake of the sustainable
farming incentive. Does my hon. Friend agree that it simply does
not have enough incentive for farmers to join?
My hon. Friend makes an excellent point; I will come to that in a
little while, because I think that does explain a lot of why that
underspend has happened. It is easy to see how it has happened;
it is not a mystery. It is down to two things: first, the
Conservative Government have been very good at phasing out the
old BPS, and secondly, they have been relentlessly incompetent at
bringing in the new schemes, including for the reason that my
hon. Friend set out.
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs figures show
that around £460 million has been removed from farmers’ pockets
in the form of the BPS phase-out, which eclipses the increase in
environmental payments of around £155 million. Much of that has
not even gone to farmers. It has instead found its way into the
very deep pockets of large landowners, including new entrant
corporate landowners, looking to do a bit of greenwashing at the
taxpayer’s expense.
In the spring of 2021, the Government promised to spend £275
million on SFI schemes in the 2022-23 financial year. Yet, in
reality, excluding the pilots, they spent literally nothing—zero
pounds, zero pence. This year, the Government plan to spend just
shy of £290 million on SFIs. One question for the Minister is:
how much of that money will actually go to farmers in this
current financial year?
(Strangford) (DUP)
I understand clearly what the hon. Gentleman is saying but I
would respectfully like to put forward a suggestion. There are
examples where the schemes have done good. For instance, there
are some wonderful farm shops in my constituency, such as Corries
butcher’s, a good scheme set up some years ago, and McKee’s farm
shop. For those farmers who can afford additional farm shops,
this is a wonderful way to diversify in an effort to boost income
and ensure functioning sustainability. Does the hon. Gentleman
agree—I think he does—that small financial incentives could be a
way to support our local farmers to diversify, and that could be
introduced through the sustainable farming incentive? In other
words, we can all gain.
I go back to what I said at the beginning. The hon. Gentleman is
right to say that there are clear advantages in the scheme, and
we support its principle. The problem is that they are outweighed
across the piece by the negatives.
What does the botching of the transition mean for individual
farmers? Last week, I met a group of farmers in north Westmorland
at Ormside near Appleby. One told me that SFI would replace just
7% or 8% of what he is losing in basic payment. Another explained
that if he maximised everything in his mid-tier stewardship
scheme and got into all the available SFI options, he would
replace only 60% of what he received through BPS. The others in
the room looked at him with some envy: he was the least badly
affected.
Last month, I met a group of farmers in South Westmorland, in Old
Hutton near Kendal. One told me that the loss of farm income
meant that he had to increase the size of his flock to make ends
meet. He knew that in making that choice he was undoing the good
environmental work that he and his family had been doing for
years, but he could see no other way to keep afloat. That is a
reminder that the Government’s handling of these payments means
that they are often delivering precisely the opposite of what
they intended.
(North Shropshire) (LD)
One issue that farmers in my constituency have raised is that
existing schemes to help the environment are not eligible under
the sustainable farm incentive, so farmers are incentivised to
rip those schemes out, undoing good work that they have done and
damaging the environment. Does my hon. Friend agree that a tweak
to the payments to recognise good work that has already been done
would be welcome?
My hon. Friend makes a really good point, and that also happens
in my constituency. Accidentally, the Government are acting in a
counterproductive way when it comes to the environment.
Others at that meeting in South Westmorland near Kendal told me
that they are putting off investing in capital equipment because
the loss of BPS and the lack of replacement income means that
they do not have the cash flow to invest in a long-overdue new
dairy parlour, a covered slurry tank or other things that would
increase productivity and improve environmental outcomes. The
Minister will say that many grants are available to farmers to
help them in that respect, and in some cases they absolutely can,
but not if contractors need to be paid up front as DEFRA expects
farmers to demonstrate that they have the money in the bank to do
that before releasing those grants.
DEFRA’s own figures show that upland livestock farmers have lost
41% of their income during this Parliament, and that lowland
livestock farmers have lost 44%. One famer near Keswick told me,
tongue in cheek, that he had calculated that the fines he would
receive for committing a string of pretty terrible crimes would
not amount to what he lost in farm income thanks to this
Government.
My hon. Friend is making a very good point. Does he agree that
financially aware farms help make financially secure farms, which
build food security for the country?
Absolutely. If we do not give people stability of income and
certainty, how can we expect them to provide the food and the
environmental gains that we need?
I challenge the Minister to come up with any industry that has
been penalised as badly by the Government over the past four
years as our farmers. To be fair, I do not think the Government
actually intended to do so much harm to farming and farmers. I do
not believe they sat down and decided to break their promise to
farmers and make a net cut of more than a sixth in farm spending,
but those cuts have happened all the same because of flaws built
into the system either by accident or by design, which have led
to predictable and ever-increasing sums of money being taken out
of farming, while smaller and less predictable amounts have been
introduced.
Let me set out some of the flaws, in the hope that the Minister
will address them. First, the system has built-in perverse
incentives, as my hon. Friend the Member for North Shropshire
() said, which mean that
farmers at the forefront of environmental work are penalised.
Farmers who are in an existing higher level stewardship or
uplands entry level stewardship scheme lose their BPS—by the end
of this month, they will have lost between 35% and 50%—yet they
cannot fully access SFI. In other words, farmers already doing
good environmental work can only lose income from this process.
That is especially so in the Lake district, the Cartmel
peninsula, the dales and the Eden valley—some of our most
treasured and picturesque landscapes. In upland areas, basic
payments typically make up 60% of financial support. Farmers in
those beautiful places, which are so essential to our heritage,
our environment and our tourism economy are stuck. They are
already in stewardship schemes, but their BPS is being removed
and they cannot meaningfully access SFI.
The Lake district is a world heritage site. If the landscape
changes dramatically for the worse in the next few years because
of the Government’s failure to understand the impact of their
error, that world heritage site status is at risk, and its loss
would cause huge damage to our vital hospitality and tourism
economy in Cumbria, which serves 20 million visitors a year and
sustains 60,000 jobs.
The Government’s failure to allow farmers to stack schemes to
deliver more for nature is foolish and bureaucratic, and it means
that they were always going to be taking more away from farmers
than they could ever give back.
(North Devon) (Con)
I am not sure whether things are just different in North Devon,
but my farmers seem to be able to stack their schemes. I was
asked to come here today by a lovely lady called Debbs Harding,
who is part of the Nature Friendly Farming Network, to fully
endorse this programme. Yes, there is more to be done—there is
always more to be done. However, I am delighted to hear that the
Liberal Democrats welcome the schemes and are not just going back
to Brexit, which has been their previous position.
On the point that SFI can add value, the reality is that, with
the exception of moorland options, there is no reason for anybody
in a stewardship scheme to add to what they currently lose. My
colleague from Appleby, who said he can only replace 7% of what
he loses from BPS, is typical of many people. There are
exceptions, of course, and I could name people who have done well
out of it. Yet when we have taken out the best part of half a
billion and put in £155 million to replace it, it stands to
reason that the average farmer in North Devon and everywhere else
is worse off.
I try to give the Government some credit by saying that this is
incompetence and not malice. They did not mean to break their
promise; they have just botched the transition and broken it by
accident. However, if the Minister will not address the flaw that
prevents farmers in stewardship schemes from meaningfully
accessing SFI, we can only conclude that the betrayal of
England’s farmers is not accidental after all, but deliberate.
Will he look at the matter urgently, so that we do not lose
farmers pushed to the brink due to the Government’s obvious
failure?
Another flaw in the Government’s approach to the new scheme is
that they keep chopping and changing. The Rural Payments Agency
cannot keep up with the constant flux, as the Government reinvent
SFI every few months. The platform for delivery is struggling to
keep pace. For example, the Government’s latest edict is that
everyone who began an SFI application in September must have
completed it by 31 December. If they have not completed and
submitted it by then, all their details will be wiped and they
will have to go back to square one and start again. To add to
that, the Government’s insistence on drip-feeding SFI options to
farmers means that many have not applied because they are worried
that if they do, a better new option may be revealed soon
after.
(Tiverton and Honiton)
(LD)
My hon. Friend talks about SFI options. One thing I have picked
up from the farmers in mid and east Devon I represent is that
they are concerned about how the options are profligate. At the
beginning of this year, more than 100 options for both schemes
were new or were being reviewed. I am hearing from farmers in my
corner of Devon that they want greater simplicity in the SFI.
My hon. Friend makes a good point, which I hear across
Westmorland and beyond. All that puts people off applying for new
schemes because under DEFRA’s rules, farmers can only change or
upgrade options once a year, on the anniversary of their entry
into the scheme. As a result, hundreds of farms in Westmorland
are hanging on. They are unwilling to apply for the latest option
because they cannot be sure that it will not be superseded a
month later, leaving them locked into an inferior scheme.
I mentioned earlier the concerns expressed to me by farmers in
Westmorland about capital schemes. That is a typical concern in
landscapes with sites of special scientific interest, especially
in the lakes and the dales. SFI moorland payments are higher than
others, which is welcome, but farmers cannot get into that option
without significant capital spending. For instance, farmers —or
more likely a group of farmers—who farm on a common might
typically need to spend a quarter of a million pounds on peatland
restoration, sorting out leaky dams and slowing the flow of
rivers and becks before they can qualify. Yet farmers—many of
whose incomes in reality amount to less than half the national
minimum wage—do not have a quarter of a million pounds sitting in
the bank to pay up front for that work.
The Minister will say that those farmers could get the money back
through the grant schemes, but if they do not have the money up
front to defray the costs, they are effectively barred from
entering. What are the answers here? We could start with the
Government revising their payment rates. If we value these public
goods—biodiversity, access, carbon sequestration, flood
prevention, and so on—we should pay for them accordingly. That is
why the Liberal Democrats have committed an extra £1 billion in
UK agricultural payments to protect our environment and support
farmers. Increasing the payment rates for SFI would draw more
people in, and increasing payment rates for stewardship schemes
would help too. The payment rates for HLS and UELS are £60 per
hectare for commons and £50 per hectare for non-commons. Those
rates have not been changed since 2010, so will the Minister
address that?
The Government could then get rid of the barriers in the
application process, such as counterproductive cut-off points
that prevent farmers in stewardship schemes from replacing lost
BPS income with SFI options. Next, the Government could do a
really radical thing and actually decide on a policy and then
stick to it. The Government constantly changing their mind is
damaging the ability of the RPA and Natural England to deliver
these schemes. The Minister might also consider whether
three-year SFI agreements are long enough. Should there in
addition be 10-year options, to at least give farmers the choice
of a longer, more stable scheme? That would give them the
security and stability they need.
On capital grants, the Government could ensure that the lack of
cash flow—exacerbated by the withdrawal of BPS—does not prevent
farmers from securing capital funding. The transition is a
stressful and complicated business for farmers, as well as a
costly one. Will the Minister invest more in face-to-face,
on-farm, trusted advice to support people as they make these
significant business changes? Will he ensure that Natural England
does not habitually block access to new schemes to those in SSSIs
by throwing hurdles in their way—as we saw on Dartmoor—and
instead offers a helping hand to lead farmers into those
schemes?
I restate that public money for public goods is the right
principle to support farming, but the transition to the new
scheme is causing hardship across Cumbria and across rural
England as a whole. We need to remember that farmers are food
producers first and foremost. If we do not understand that, we
run the risk of damaging our food security even further. Already,
the UK is only 55% self-sufficient in food. The Government’s
approach will mean fewer farmers and less food production. Not
only does that further undermine our ability to feed ourselves,
it also displaces the environmental damage overseas. It racks up
food miles and makes us reliant on food sourced from commodity
markets, which will impact on and increase food prices for some
of the poorest people in the world. There is a clear moral
imperative for Britain to back its farmers so that Britain can
feed itself.
Farmers are also our best hope in securing environmental gain. Of
England’s land, 70% is agricultural. If we push farmers to the
brink, who will deliver our environmental policies? Let us be
dead clear: pushing farmers into bankruptcy is bad for the
environment. The greenest thing the Government can do is to keep
farmers farming, yet by botching the transition they are doing
the opposite. [Interruption.] I will draw my remarks to a close
soon— I apologise.
I can think of farmers who are essentially staring into the
abyss. For example, people in their 60s who are tenants or else
owners of a family farm. They are the fifth or sixth generation
to run that farm. It is a beautiful place, but at times it is
bleak, and it is always isolated. Life can be lonely.
Dame (in the Chair)
Order. Will the hon. Member wind up, please?
I will. I was a bit too generous—I apologise.
That farmer is working 90 hours a week, with no headspace to deal
with the flip-flopping and chopping and changing of the new
schemes. They see their BPS disappearing, with nothing to fill
its place. There they are, on the farm that their
great-great-grandparents farmed before them, and all they can see
is that they look increasingly like being the one who will lose
the family farm. It will all end with them. Can we imagine what
that does to someone, to their state of mind, and to their
business and personal choices? What a burden we place on the
farmers who feed us and care for our landscape and our
environment, all because the Government will not face up to the
reality that the transition is bleeding a torrent of cash from
our farms, while injecting merely a trickle.
My final word is this. A farmer from near Kirkby, Stephen, who
works with farmers on common land, said this the other day:
“I spoke with all the graziers over the weekend. Desperate and
broken would probably describe the mood. A few years ago, I
scanned a customer’s sheep, and six days later he killed himself.
His friend and neighbour to this day cannot forgive himself for
missing the signs, as did I”.
I am proud of our farmers and of the work they do to feed us,
care for our environment, tackle climate change and maintain our
breathtaking landscapes. I plead with the Minister to take note
and to urgently make changes to SFI and to the whole transition,
so that we do not irreparably damage people, businesses and our
land, just because we did not listen to our farmers.11.18am
The Minister for Food, Farming and Fisheries ()
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Dame Maria. I
pay tribute to the hon. Member for Westmorland and Lonsdale
() for calling this important debate. I must confess, I
am slightly confused by his request. He spent nearly 20 minutes
flip-flopping between telling us not to constantly keep changing,
and telling us to change the system to make it more acceptable to
farmers. I am not quite sure which he wants us to do.
Let me start by saying that this whole debate around the current
transition is thought-provoking. The discussion around the
sustainable farming incentive has been interesting. It is a
scheme that will pave the way for both the production of food and
the preservation of nature—that is what we want to try to
achieve.
British farmers are the life and soul of our rural communities.
They have continued to put food on our tables despite
unprecedented challenges, such as the rising costs of production
following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. If we couple that with
the impact of the covid pandemic and the looming impact of
climate change, the industry has shown resilience and
adaptability in responding to all those challenges and continuing
to keep us fed as a nation.
The Government’s aim with SFI is to make things fairer and better
for our farmers, whether that be through our new approach to
regulation, finding areas where we can make the system itself
work better for our producers, or the policies that we introduce.
The SFI scheme does just that. It aims to support the environment
and food production, and it rewards farmers for practices that
will help to produce food sustainably and protect the environment
at the same time, while also providing them a reliable income for
doing so. That is because we know that food production and nature
preservation go hand in hand. Those practices will help to look
after farms in the short and long term by improving soil health
or mitigating the impact of extreme weather.
The aim is for the scheme to be flexible for farmers in both the
actions that they can take and the land on which they farm. There
is no minimum or maximum area of land that farmers can enter into
the scheme: anyone who applies and is eligible will get an
agreement, with the choice to add more land and actions to the
agreement each year. That goes to the core of the argument about
the number of available measures. We want to create a menu from
which farmers can choose and that they can stack on their farms.
Rather than prescribing what they must do, they should have a
menu from which to choose what works best for their farm and to
their advantage. That is helping those farmers to make their
businesses more sustainable.
As we set out in the autumn, after listening to the concerns of
farmers, we ensured that farmers who had a live agreement by the
end of this year would receive an accelerated payment for the
first month. We have already paid out £7.89 million to more than
2,000 farmers in early SFI payments, which will help with their
cash flow, making the scheme work for farm businesses. That is
what SFI is about. This year the sustainable farming incentive
was expanded, and we made it more flexible based on the feedback
we received from farmers. We introduced a further 19 actions to
SFI. We had previously joined actions into groups, but farmers
said that making them into a group when they had to deliver on
all the standards was too inflexible. We now have a total of 23
separate actions that farmers can pick and mix from, including
actions relating to soil health, hedgerow management, providing
food and habitats for wildlife and managing pests and nutrients,
giving farmers the flexibility to do what is best for their
business.
For upland farmers who are tenants, which I know the hon. Member
for Westmorland and Lonsdale is interested in, we have made SFI
much more accessible through shorter agreement lengths, increased
flexibility to leave without penalty if they lose management
control of the land that they farm and no requirement for
landlord consent. Those farming on commons are also eligible for
SFI. We have introduced supplementary payments for those farming
on commons with others. The flexibility, the broad offer and the
importance of steady, regular income that farmers can count on
are some of the reasons that SFI has already received record
interest from farmers around the country. Before it opened, we
received expressions of interest from more than 15,000 farmers,
across all types of farm sizes, and all of them have been invited
to apply. Nearly 5,000 applications have been submitted so far,
and more than 2,000 farmers have already started SFI this
year.
Looking to the future, we need to ensure that the agricultural
transition works for all farmers, which is why we are supporting
them through the change, from commoners to small family farms on
our uplands. We are working on additional actions for upland
farmers in moorlands, which we will introduce into SFI in 2024.
In everything that we do, our aim is to back a profitable and
sustainable food and farming sector, now and for future
generations. The improved SFI offer is at the heart of that, with
record interest from farmers around the country. This is part of
our range of schemes for farmers. We are also carrying on with
the countryside stewardship scheme, which more than 30,000 are
already involved with, and we are making that work better,
bringing more flexibility in order for higher level stewardship
holders to have CS or SFI agreements in addition to their
existing HLS one.
Overall, we have almost doubled the number of farmers in our
environmental schemes this year, and we have put our foot to the
floor to help more farmers as we move ahead. We will continue to
support those farmers. We will continue to demonstrate
flexibility. We will continue to listen to their views and
support them on this journey. That will be the model on which we
operate. I encourage farmers to embrace these new schemes and to
get involved. We will listen and we will shape them as we move
forward. May I finish, Dame Maria, by wishing everybody a merry
Christmas and a sustainable and profitable future in the farming
sector?
Question put and agreed to.
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