James Wild (North West Norfolk) (Con) On the evening of 15 January
this year, Paul Carter, his wife Lisa, and Jade Mace—Lisa’s
daughter from her first marriage—were killed when Aurelijus
Cielevicius crashed his car into theirs. Three innocent lives were
ended. I stand here this evening to speak on behalf of my
constituent Summer Mace, who lost her mum, sister and stepfather on
that awful evening, and her family and friends who provided 28
victim personal statements to...Request free trial
(North West Norfolk) (Con)
On the evening of 15 January this year, Paul Carter, his wife
Lisa, and Jade Mace—Lisa’s daughter from her first marriage—were
killed when Aurelijus Cielevicius crashed his car into theirs.
Three innocent lives were ended. I stand here this evening to
speak on behalf of my constituent Summer Mace, who lost her mum,
sister and stepfather on that awful evening, and her family and
friends who provided 28 victim personal statements to the
court.
I have met Summer and her father, and heard just a little bit
about the terrible impact that this crime has had on them and
their wider family and friends. The facts of the case are
shocking. The offender’s speed was so excessive that when he
passed a police officer in a marked police vehicle in a layby,
the officer was unable to note the registration number. Prior to
the crash, he went through two red lights, almost causing another
collision, and crossed solid white no-overtaking lines on
multiple occasions. Other motorists on the road that night said
that he was travelling at speeds of 100 mph and struggling to
stay in control of the vehicle, including when the crash
happened, where he was on the wrong side of the road and unable
to get back to the left-hand lane. All of that was while he was
on a cocktail of drugs, including being 15 times over the limit
after taking crystal meth, and with high levels of cannabis in
his system.
The family told me that CCTV shows Cielevicius driving through
red lights with blue lights visible in the background, although
the judge did not accept that he knew he was being followed by
the police at the time of the crash. The collision investigator
estimates that when the driver crashed into the other vehicle
head-on, killing Paul, Lisa, and Jade, he was travelling at 91
mph. He was only slightly injured. On 20 June, Cielevicius was
convicted of three counts of causing death by dangerous driving.
It is unacceptable that, after a guilty plea was taken into
account, this offender was sentenced to only 10 and a half years
for killing three people.
(Strangford) (DUP)
I commend the hon. Gentleman for securing this debate. The hon.
Gentleman mentioned that this person was under the influence of
drugs. My question is probably one for the Minister, through the
hon. Gentleman. Although the Government place great emphasis on
tackling those who are over the limit for alcohol, perhaps they
do not place the same emphasis on drugs. In my constituency, the
availability of drugs seems to be growing by the day. With that
in mind, does the hon. Gentleman believe that the Government and
the police need to place greater emphasis on testing and catching
drivers who are under the influence of drugs, thereby reducing
accidents?
I completely agree with the hon. Gentleman. We are all familiar
with the annual Christmas drink-driving campaigns and other
campaigns throughout the year, and I think Norfolk Constabulary
has also done some drug-testing campaigns. I encourage other
police forces to do the same, because it is not just about
alcohol; it is also about drugs, as in this case.
The primary purpose of tonight’s debate is to highlight the
serious issues raised by this case with sentencing and the unduly
lenient sentence scheme, as well as to propose some changes to
the criminal justice system. In the Government’s Police, Crime,
Sentencing and Courts Act 2022, Parliament legislated to increase
the maximum sentence for this offence from 14 years to life
imprisonment. We did that to reflect the devastation that such
crimes inflict. As Summer wrote in a petition calling for change
in our criminal justice system:
“My family were given a life sentence the day that man killed my
loved ones. A life sentence that I will never be released from.
On 15th January, he killed our future lives, thoughts and
hopes—as we have none without them.”
Summer and her family cannot understand why the life sentence
they have been dealt has not been imposed on this offender. The
petition that Summer organised has been signed by over 13,000
people, and the family are working alongside other families and
charities such as RoadPeace, with its “Fix our Broken Justice
System” campaign, to try to make a difference.
(Somerton and Frome) (LD)
I thank the hon. Member for securing this important debate. In my
constituency of Somerton and Frome, we were recently shocked by
the tragic deaths of two young sisters, Liberty and Madison, who
were killed as they drove on the A361 bypass near Frome. They
were killed because speed limits were ignored, on a road that has
seen many traffic accidents in recent years. Does he agree that
our road traffic laws are failing, and that the victims of
criminal driving and their families need confidence that our
legal system will deliver justice?
We increased the maximum sentence for this crime to life
imprisonment precisely to try to address those concerns. I now
want to come to whether the system is actually working, in the
sense that courts are imposing the sentences that this Parliament
has legislated for.
The judge classed this as a level 1 case—the most serious—owing
to a prolonged, persistent and deliberate course of very bad
driving. In her sentencing remarks, she highlighted the following
aggravating factors: three people were killed; there was greatly
excessive speed; the driver knew he was deprived of sufficient
sleep; he had consumed drugs above the legal limit—there was a
cocktail of drugs in his system; he had previous convictions for
motoring offences—driving while disqualified, driving with excess
alcohol and two counts of driving with no insurance; and he was
on police bail for a driving offence at the time and in breach of
curfew conditions. There were six aggravating factors, yet the
judge went on to state that a sentence after a trial would have
been 14 years, when the maximum sentence legislated for by this
Parliament is life imprisonment.
The simple question that many people have is: why? A particular
concern in this case is the timeliness of sentencing guidelines.
From June 2022, the maximum penalty for causing death by
dangerous driving was increased to life imprisonment, as I have
mentioned, yet it was not until 1 July 2023 that new sentencing
guidelines took effect. How and why can there be such a gap? As
it happens, new guidelines were published on 15 June 2023, before
the judge passed her sentence, but they were not in effect. They
increased the starting point for a level 1 offence from eight
years in custody to 12 years, with a range of eight to 18
years.
Furthermore, the Solicitor General, my hon. and learned Friend
the Member for Mid Dorset and North Poole () personally argued, in
the Luis Balcazar Soto case in the Court of Appeal in 2022, that
pending the new sentencing guidelines, judges should increase
sentences imposed for the most serious such offences to reflect
the increase in the maximum sentence legislated for by this
House. Having read the judgment carefully and the starting point
selected, I do not consider that that is what happened in this
case, when three people were killed.
My constituents also questioned the approach to concurrent
sentences. The totality guidelines state that where more than one
death is caused and they are charged in separate counts, as
happened in this case, sentences reflecting the overall
criminality would be appropriate, and to ensure that sentences
are “just and proportionate”. Again, it is difficult to accept
that that happened in this case, where a single concurrent
sentence was given.
The sentence was referred to the Attorney General on behalf of
the family. However, my hon. and learned Friend the Solicitor
General, acting on her behalf, declined to refer the matter to
the Court of Appeal under the unduly lenient sentence scheme. In
the response to the family, he stated that the judge
characterised the offence accurately and identified the correct
starting point. The question the family have is this: what
further aggravating factors would justify a higher sentence and a
referral?
A particular source of anger, and the reason the family lack
confidence in the review, is that the letter explaining why the
sentence would not be referred talks about the judge as a he,
when in fact the judge was a she. It is perhaps not surprising
that, as a result, my constituents, who suffered this very
traumatic experience, are concerned that their case was not
looked at properly. Can my hon. and learned Friend assure my
constituents that it was carefully considered, and tell them
whether experienced King’s Counsel provided advice on the case,
having reviewed the judgment? My constituents have a specific
request for my hon. and learned Friend. Will he agree to meet me
and the family to explain those reasons directly to them in more
detail?
Sadly, this case is not unique and RoadPeace has highlighted the
cases of four families, including Summer’s, and the fact that no
one has yet received a life sentence for this crime. As well as
the contributions this evening, a number of other hon. and right
hon. Members approached me in the House today, once it was known
that this debate was taking place, to highlight similar cases in
their constituencies where inadequate sentences were imposed.
Nothing will bring back Lisa Carter, Paul Carter or Jade Mace,
but their families are committed to helping make changes to
prevent other families from experiencing the nightmare that they
have. They have identified four principal areas where action is
needed to put the rights of victims and their bereaved families
ahead of offenders.
First, the family want a thorough review of all the evidence
related to this case, as, as I have explained, they do not
consider it was properly reviewed. To that end, I hope my hon.
and learned Friend will agree to meet the family to explain in
greater detail how the case was considered and how the unduly
lenient sentence test is applied.
Secondly, the family call for longer sentences. Parliament
legislated for a maximum sentence of life imprisonment for the
most serious cases. Given that, it is essential that the
appropriateness of the sentencing guidelines for this offence are
reviewed. How can it be right that someone who kills three people
in such terrible circumstances could be out of prison in just
seven and a half years? That is two and a half years each for the
lives of Lisa, Paul and Jade. The guidelines need to be revised
in line with Parliament’s intent to ensure that longer sentences
are imposed. If the unduly lenient scheme threshold is set too
cautiously, it should also be looked at to help inspire public
confidence.
Thirdly, the bail system should be improved. As I mentioned, at
the time of the crash, the offender was on bail for a driving
offence and subject to a curfew, but tagging is not available for
police bail, so when he broke the curfew, no one knew. If he had
been tagged, it is possible that this appalling crime may have
been prevented. One of the changes my constituents and all those
who signed the petition want to see is curfews controlled—for
example, with a tag—and stricter sanctions for failure to comply
with bail conditions. This is a simple, common-sense reform to
make our bail system more robust, and I hope the Government will
take it forward.
Fourthly, to ordinary people it is offensive that multiple lives
can be taken but concurrent rather than consecutive sentences
imposed. Again, consideration should be given for the totality
sentencing guidelines to be reviewed for offenders convicted of
multiple deaths simultaneously, so that there is a shift towards
imposing consecutive sentences.
Finally, thousands of people have signed another petition
supporting a lifetime driving ban for people who are convicted of
causing death by dangerous driving. In this case, a ban for a
period of eight years was considered appropriate, extended to 15
years to take account of the time that the offender will be in
prison. The courts have the powers to impose lifetime bans, and
RoadPeace is campaigning for them to be applied. The Government
should consider whether it should become a mandatory element in
some cases, because driving is a privilege and not a right.
I recognise that a number of the issues I have raised fall to
other Ministers and other Departments, and I seek the assistance
of my hon. and learned Friend in ensuring that the points I have
made are followed up after the debate, in writing and also
through meetings. There is an opportunity—through the criminal
justice and sentencing Bills announced in the King’s Speech, and
through the power of the Lord Chancellor to request reviews of
sentencing guidelines—to ensure that tougher sentences are
imposed and served. That is what our constituents want, and what
they expect.
For this family the nightmare will not end, but by making changes
we can try to prevent others from suffering it. This debate is
part of the process of putting forward those changes.9.15pm
The Solicitor General ()
I thank my hon. Friend the Member for North West Norfolk () for securing this important
debate. Dangerous driving, especially when it results in death or
injury, is a most serious offence, which is rightly condemned by
all in this House. I know how seriously my hon. Friend takes the
issue, and I am grateful to him for his engagement in this
matter. I thank him particularly for raising the case of his
constituents Paul and Lisa Carter and Lisa’s daughter, Jade Mace.
He set out his case very clearly, with passion and with
compassion. I offer my sincere condolences and pay tribute to
what is clearly a close-knit and loving family, and particularly
to Summer, who lost her mother, sister and stepfather in this
incident. Their pain and suffering are unimaginable. As the
learned judge rightly said at the sentencing hearing:
“nothing I say [nor] any sentence I pass can make up for the loss
of three lives or assuage the grief of their loved ones.”
I will turn to my hon. Friend’s specific points in a moment, but
let me start by setting out some general principles of the scheme
to which he rightly referred, the unduly lenient sentence scheme.
In exercising my function of reviewing sentences under the ULS
scheme, I act quasi-judicially. My role, and that of the Attorney
General, is to act as a guardian of the public interest. I share
my hon. Friend’s desire to ensure that those responsible for
terrible crimes are properly punished, and it must be said that
in the vast majority of cases, sentencing judges get it right.
They deal with a range of cases that vary in complexity and
severity, and I take this opportunity to commend them for their
work.
Let me put that into context. Of more than 91,000 cases dealt
with in the Crown court in 2022, more than 1,100 were referred to
the Attorney General’s Office, of which 819 were eligible for the
ULS scheme. Of those, 139 were referred to the Court of Appeal,
which granted leave to refer in 77% of them. Those statistics
have been published on the Attorney General’s website.
The ULS scheme promotes justice, fairness and consistency. It
allows sentences which are unduly lenient to be increased, and it
is there to correct an error when the judge gets it wrong. It is
important to note, however, that it does not apply to sentences
that are simply lenient. As the Court of Appeal has said
repeatedly,
“sentencing is an art rather than a science…leniency is not in
itself a vice. That mercy should season justice is a proposition
as soundly based in law as it is in literature.”
The test of undue leniency is a high one. Parliament rightly
intended that the Court of Appeal would grant permission to refer
a sentence only in exceptional circumstances: for example, if the
judge has passed a sentence that falls outside the range of
sentences which a judge could properly consider appropriate, or
if there has been some gross error in law or principle.
I turn now to the specific offence of causing death by dangerous
driving. As my hon. Friend said, the Police, Crime, Sentencing
and Courts Act 2022 came into force on 28 June that year, and I
know he welcomed it. When it did, there were two significant
changes to the law. The first was the increase in the maximum
penalty from 14 years to life imprisonment and, as the hon.
Member for Strangford () noted, this is not just for those under the
influence of drink; it also for those under the influence of
drugs. I am grateful to him for making that point. The second
change relates to the minimum disqualification periods. The
Government changed the law to increase both the maximum period of
imprisonment and the minimum driver disqualification period for
those who commit the most serious road traffic offences, ensuring
that they are kept off our roads for a longer period.
My hon. Friend the Member for North West Norfolk mentioned the
sentencing guidelines, and I shall turn specifically to that now.
He is right to say that the revised sentencing guidelines came
into force on 1 July 2023. Between 28 June 2022 and 1 July 2023,
the courts were obliged to look to the old guidelines, but as a
result of the Court of Appeal case in which I appeared in the
Court of Appeal, the court provided judges with guidance on how
to sentence those cases in the in-between period. Judges were
encouraged to apply an uplift to the provisional sentence
identified, to reflect the increase in the maximum penalty. I
emphasise that that happened in this case and that the learned
judge specifically referred to the Court of Appeal case of Waite
andBalcazar Soto. I pay tribute to the work of the independent
Sentencing Council for its development of the guidelines. I
understand my hon. Friend’s point about timing. He is right that
this has taken a long time, but it is inevitable that it will
take time for guidelines to be produced following an appropriate
consultation, as happened here. In the meantime, the Court of
Appeal can give guidance, as also happened here.
On totality, my hon. Friend mentioned concurrent sentences.
Judges must consider the totality of offending when sentencing
for more than one offence. The totality guidelines have also been
revised, and the revised guidelines came into force on 1 July
2023. The overriding principle of totality is that the overall
sentence should reflect all the offending behaviour and that it
should be just and proportionate. In relation to the sentence for
the offence of causing death by dangerous driving, the starting
points and category ranges relate to a single offence resulting
in a single death. Where more than one person is killed, that
will of course aggravate the seriousness of the offence because
of the increase in harm. However, where more than one death is
caused and they are charged on separate counts, concurrent
sentences reflecting the overall criminality are appropriate
where the offending or the harm arises out of a single incident,
but there will be an increase in the sentence to reflect the
increased harm. I note the points that my hon. Friend has
made.
Let me turn to my hon. Friend’s other points on life sentences.
Causing death by dangerous driving is a specified offence for the
purposes of sentencing. This means that a judge can impose a
discretionary life sentence, or an extended sentence if they
determine that the offender is what is known as a dangerous
offender. A dangerous offender is someone who poses a significant
risk of causing serious harm to members of the public. An
extended sentence consists of a custodial term that reflects the
seriousness of the offending, followed by an extended licence
period, which is determined on the basis of what the court
considers necessary for the purpose of protecting members of the
public. This means that, unlike under a determinate sentence, the
offender is not automatically released at the halfway or
two-thirds point of the sentence. It means that they can apply
for parole after they have served two thirds of their sentence,
and will be released only if the Parole Board determines that
they are no longer a danger to the public. They must of course be
released at the end of the custodial period, but they will remain
on licence until the expiry of the extended period. The learned
judge in this case explained that very process in her sentencing
remarks.
I offer my sincere apologies to the family for the fact that my
letter to them referred to the judge incorrectly. My hon. Friend
is absolutely right to raise that point. It was an error, it was
my error, and I apologise. However, the case was carefully
considered. They all are, but perhaps especially those involving
such tragic consequences, and especially so given that my hon.
Friend specifically brought this case to my attention.
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for securing this debate. The ULS
scheme is not a mystery, and neither should it be, but it is not
often that we have the opportunity to debate the scheme in
detail, as we have this evening. I am grateful to him for
providing that opportunity. He specifically requested that I meet
him and the family and, yes, of course I will.
I close by commending the family once more for their bravery in
raising this case and for their determination to ensure that
other families do not suffer as they have.
Question put and agreed to.
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