Jerome Mayhew (Broadland) (Con) I beg to move, That this House has
considered financial education in schools. It is a great pleasure
to serve under your chairship, Dame Angela. Tip O’Neill was
famously linked to the phrase “all politics is local”, but I can go
one step further and say that this politics is personal, because I
grew up with no financial education at all. I was given no
education or instruction on how savings work or about interest
rates. I was...Request free trial
(Broadland) (Con)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered financial education in
schools.
It is a great pleasure to serve under your chairship, Dame
Angela. Tip O’Neill was famously linked to the phrase “all
politics is local”, but I can go one step further and say that
this politics is personal, because I grew up with no financial
education at all. I was given no education or instruction on how
savings work or about interest rates. I was given no education
about investment or what an individual savings account was—I had
no idea. I did not know what pensions were; I had heard of them,
obviously, but I had never been instructed on how they work, how
to apply for one, what the options are, whether I should have a
workplace pension, what a final salary pension is, what a
defined-contribution pension is or what the differences between
them might be—I had no idea.
I had no idea what mortgages were. I had heard of them,
obviously, and I knew that people had them, but I did not know
how to apply for them, the differences between an interest-only
mortgage and a repayment mortgage, or what an endowment mortgage
was—I had no idea. I had no idea about debt and debt management;
I knew that I spent my money too quickly, but I did not know
anything about debt management. If I got to a stage where I was
in financial stress, as many people do during their lives, I had
no training at all on how to manage that effectively.
I have children now—a 20-year-old who is just going off to
university, a 17-year-old, and a 14-year-old. During the recess,
I asked them whether they had received any financial education or
training. Getting on for 40 years since my defective education,
they have not received any education about financial matters at
all, yet we know that that is a crucial part of our lives. A huge
amount of research has been done by academics and the financial
sector on how important financial training is for people’s
ability to lead normal, high-quality, independent lives. I will
go through a little of that research to give Members a flavour of
it.
Cambridge University and the Money Advice Service did some work
in 2013 in which they established that most money habits are
embedded by the age of seven. They found that it was difficult to
reverse those early-learned approaches later in life. If somebody
does not have them by the age of seven, when they are at primary
school, they are already on the back foot.
This year, Santander surveyed a large sample of adults in the UK,
and 70% reported that better financial education would have
improved their ability to manage their finances during the cost
of living crisis. This is a real and present issue. Some 68% of
adults think that financial education should be part of the
primary school curriculum, so it has broad support from the
general population. This is a real problem. I am not alone
and
I was not unique. I am the general public; I have not received
financial education. That has a huge effect on people’s lives
right now.
Back in 2021, GoHenry, Censuswide and Development Economics
demonstrated at the very least a correlation between the
financial education someone receives as a child and their later
earning capability. Some 46% of those earning less than £15,000
had received financial education; among those earning between
£55,000 and £65,000 a year, 77% had received financial education.
It has also been demonstrated that if somebody receives financial
education as a child, they save more into their pension pot. On
average, people who receive financial education as a child save
44% more each month into their pension than those who did not.
That is a startling statistic, and it is not just pensions, but
savings more generally: of those who received financial
education, more than 50% had saved more than £5,000 for a rainy
day; of those with no financial education, only a third had saved
that much.
I am sure Members are asking themselves whether that is
correlation or causation. If it is causation the debate should
finish now because the case has been made overwhelmingly for
effective financial education in the school curriculum, but let
us consider whether it is correlation. What we are really saying
is that there is a middle-class secret to financial education and
that those who receive such education at home get a huge leg-up
throughout the rest of their lives. Even if it is correlation, it
is the job of state education, universally applied, to overcome
the deficit and level up so that we can close the middle-class
leg-up and bring everyone up to the same standard.
I accept that the formal education system is not about
proselytising—it is perhaps not appropriate for a teacher to say,
“You must have a pension”—but it is about providing knowledge and
information so that students can go on to make good decisions
themselves. It is not the role of a teacher to say, “You have to
do it.” I accept that. But where the outcome of a good decision
is so profound both for the individual and for society it begs
the question: how much of that knowledge should the education
system focus on providing? A good decision in this area has a
huge impact on society.
Let us look at the economy. In 2022, the pension wealth of this
country was £5.4 trillion—in private pensions, not state
pensions. Some 42% of all household wealth is contained in the
pension system, 69% of which is invested in UK assets. If we made
a small change in the amount of money going through the pension
system, that would have an enormous impact on the level of
productive investment in the United Kingdom economy.
Then we have the impact on mental health. We know that 11.5
million Britons have less than £100 in savings and that financial
stress has a huge impact on mental health. I have had periods
when I have been very worried about money. The worry is so
profound that you cannot think of anything else. It dominates
your life. We know that treatment for an individual mental health
episode costs the state between £600 and £800.
Mr (East Londonderry)
(DUP)
I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on what would at any time in
our recent history have been a timely debate. On the point about
those 11.5 million people, most of
them in the lower socioeconomic groups, does he agree that it is
all the more important that teachers and those involved at the
outset of people’s careers try to inculcate in younger people the
need for and benefit of saving even small amounts initially,
which build up to a long-term benefit in later years?
You are absolutely right. I will come on to the benefits of
compound interest, which is part of the answer.
Dame (in the Chair)
Order. I do not want to intervene too much, but if you say “you”,
you are referring to me. As I am sure we all we know, he is “the
hon. Gentleman”.
Of course he is. I am sorry for that slip.
Barclays, in its 2014 research, found that 17.5 million hours of
productive work was lost because of financial stress. It came up
with the figure of £120 billion of value lost to the economy
because of financial stress in that year.
Then there is the impact on the individual. Last year, Standard
Life did some research on the impact of compound interest on
pensions. It created a worked example showing that if a
27-year-old got a relatively modest entry-level job paying
£23,000 a year and contributed the minimum to their
pension—3%—and their employer contributed the minimum that they
could, which is 5%, they would, at the retirement age of 68, have
a pension pot of £312,266, a very considerable sum to support
them in their later years. However, if that person started saving
into their pension just five years earlier, aged 22, their pot
would be £424,618 at the age of 68. That is £112,000 bigger—an
increase of 36%. The difference is profound not just for the
person’s chances in later life, but for the state, because there
are knock-on consequences for the cost of social care as we age
as a society.
I come back to the point that I recognise that it is not the job
of the state to proselytise or the job of educational
establishments to tell young people that they have to have a
pension, for example, but where the impact of failing to give
people really good information on which they can take their own
decisions is so profound, for the individual, for the economy and
for society as a whole, surely there is a level of focus that the
state should provide in giving detailed information repeatedly to
young people during the educational process. The need is enormous
and, in my submission, we do not go nearly far enough.
The answer, one would think, is that young people should be given
financial education as part of the curriculum. “Job done,” we
thought back in 2014 when the coalition Government did exactly
that. For secondary education in England, it was made a statutory
part of the curriculum. The devolved nations go further: they
have it as part of the primary as well as the secondary
curriculum. Yet the all-party parliamentary group on financial
education for young people, which I am lucky enough to chair,
undertook some research and reported earlier this year that,
despite the legal requirement for financial education to be part
of the curriculum, 56% of teachers in England did not know that
it was part of the
curriculum. That begs the question: how were they teaching it if
they did not even know that it was part of the curriculum?
The Money and Pensions Service looked at the same issue but from
the other end of the telescope. It asked children, “Do you
remember ever having received any financial education?” We can
forgive them a bit of amnesia, but only 38% of children recalled
any. That means that 62% had no recollection of ever having
received any financial education at all.
What has gone wrong? Why are we in this state despite the fact
that financial education is part of the national curriculum? The
first answer is that it is very easy to ignore. We know that
there is a lack of awareness, because the researchers told us
that the majority of teachers are not aware that financial
education is part of the curriculum and they are meant to be
teaching it. We know that it is not inspected by Ofsted. We know
that it is something that is added in, perhaps as an
afterthought, and not part of the core curriculum. There is an
easy solution to that, and one of my requests today is that the
Department for Education lead, or at the very least support, a
determined campaign to raise awareness among educational
establishments of the importance of financial education and the
fact that it is indeed a statutory part of the national
curriculum.
The second reason why financial education has fallen down is that
teaching it is hard. Many teachers, just like me, did not receive
any financial education themselves, and the survey evidence
supports the fact that they do not feel confident in teaching a
subject about which they know so little: 55% of teachers find it
challenging. They went into further detail and said that there
are time pressures and a lack of training—again, it is about
their own financial confidence—and, of course, there are many,
many competing priorities in the education system. We need to
provide teachers with improved access to the training they need.
Perhaps there is a role for teacher training colleges. Teachers
are coming into the profession with no focus on financial
education at all and a lack of confidence in their own abilities
in this area. Could teacher training colleges have a focus on
financial education as part of the curriculum?
There is a lack of time in schools. Can we integrate the teaching
of financial education better into the other subjects that are
already part of the curriculum, as part of applied learning?
Again, I know that it is not the role of the Department for
Education to dictate lesson plans to the 22,000-odd schools in
this country, but it is the Department’s role to facilitate.
Using financial topics as the context of learning can increase
engagement with mathematics. That is not my assertion; research
has demonstrated it. In 2019, the OECD undertook a pilot scheme
and found that where this subject was integrated, students’
performance on exam questions increased by 20%. That is very
significant. Of the teachers who participated in the pilot, 81%
said that it improved pupils’ understanding of financial matters,
which we would expect, but about 50% said that their students
demonstrated improved attitudes to maths as well. That is quite
startling. It improves their ability to answer questions, and it
improves their approach to the harder core subject of
mathematics. Does the Minister agree with that analysis, and if
so, what work is being done to develop this approach more widely
within the maths curriculum?
Another piece of feedback, perhaps predictably, was that there is
a lack of resources. There are loads of training aids out there.
Every established and aspiring bank and financial institution is
desperate for their environmental, social and governance
departments to provide financial education to young people.
produced a textbook four or
five years ago, which I know the Minister was involved in helping
to create—more power to your elbow.
Dame (in the Chair)
My elbow?
His elbow—I am so sorry. I am normally quite good at this!
I recognise that the textbook needs to be updated, but an
improved textbook from or the wider financial
services sector could be taught for 30 minutes every fortnight
for a couple of years during secondary education. Is that the
sort of thing that the Minister and his Department could support?
If so, what form would that support take?
One alternative to supporting the many multi-academy trusts out
there, including in my constituency, with their internal teaching
of financial education is to facilitate access for external
financial education trainers to come into schools. Many of them
are very keen to do so. Could we allow or even require schools
that do not teach financial education internally to give access
to accredited financial education training providers to do the
job for them?
Let us bring that all together: we have learned that habits form
early—by the age of seven. Should we not have financial education
as part of the primary curriculum? Should we not learn from the
good examples of what goes on in Wales, Northern Ireland and
Scotland, where financial literacy is measurably higher than in
England? It is not by much, but it is measurably higher, and
perhaps that is because they have financial education as part of
the curriculum in primary schools. Should we not follow them?
Will the Minister actively support a campaign to increase
awareness of financial education as part of the national
curriculum for secondary education in England? Will he support
the development of improved teaching assets, either within
cross-departmental curricula at the moment, or through increased
access for external providers? Will he encourage, perhaps in the
first instance, voluntary access to external education providers?
If that does not go far enough, will he mandate access if schools
are not providing financial education themselves, as they are
statutorily required to do?
I started this speech saying that politics is personal, and I
believe that this is one of those small areas where a tiny
change, relatively speaking, could make a profound difference to
the lives of the people and economy of this country. We spend so
much time here dealing with fluff—the latest 15-minute scandal,
the eye-catching initiative. There are relatively few small, but
very significant, tweaks that we can make to policy in this
country that could have such a profound effect as tweaking the
provision of effective financial education for young people. I
know this is not an easy win, but it is an achievable win, and I
encourage the Minister to grasp it.
Dame (in the Chair)
I intend to call the Front Benchers from 10.30 am. If hon.
Members who are not on the Front Benches bear that in mind, there
will not be a need for a time limit.
9.52am
(Penistone and Stocksbridge)
(Con)
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Broadland () securing a very important
debate and on his compelling speech; he has made some brilliant
arguments, which I will try not to repeat too often.
I used to be a secondary school science teacher, and I distinctly
remember that one summer, when I had bottom-set year 10 for
biology, only half the pupils turned up to the lesson. I remember
saying to those who had arrived, “Where’s everybody else? We’ve
got an important lesson on photosynthesis today,” and they said
something like, “Oh Miss, FIFA 2010 came out last night. They’ve
been up all night playing it, so they’re not coming into school
today.” So I said, “But this lesson is really important. You’re
not going to pass your GCSE. It’s too complex to repeat it or to
catch up at another time, so we’ll do something else.” Then one
of them said, “But Miss, we don’t need GCSEs. I’m just going to
work in McDonald’s.”
So I thought, what a great opportunity to prove that even if
someone does work in McDonald’s full time, they are probably not
going to be able to achieve the standard of living they want. So
instead of learning about photosynthesis, we spent the lesson
creating a spreadsheet on how much someone might earn if they
worked at McDonald’s for 48 hours a week. We looked at what their
rent costs might be, what their energy bill might be, how much
they might spend on food, and how much it would cost for them to
have the lifestyle they wanted—to be able to buy the computer
games they wanted, and clothes to go out in. By the end of the
lesson, they had realised that a job at McDonald’s would not fund
the lifestyle they wanted.
Now, there is nothing wrong with a job at McDonald’s, but it is
really important for young people to understand the link between
working hard at school, getting qualifications and leading the
lifestyle they want to lead. I will never forget that they were
far more engaged in that lesson than in any other lesson I taught
them—probably because they were not learning about photo-
synthesis, but also because the subject had such a practical
impact on their lives and enabled them to see how the world
works. I am convinced that financial education at school is
important for children, and particularly for those who do not
feel that the big careers, opportunities and qualifications are
for them.
As my hon. Friend put it so eloquently, money management is such
an important life skill, and there is a clear link between ending
up in financial difficulty and not having good money management
skills. The Centre for Social Justice, which has done some
excellent work on the issue, found that 14 million people who
experience financial difficulty said that that was partly because
of poor money management, and young people are very much
over-represented in that group.
In many ways, it is not surprising that young people lack
confidence, knowledge and experience in managing money. A lot has
changed over recent generations that perhaps makes young people
today less confident than previous generations. First, we live in
a cashless world. In previous generations, children could
literally watch the money coming in and out of the home. They
would have seen cash in a tin on the table or in their mum’s
purse. They could touch and feel their parent’s wages as
they brought them home from work. They would physically see the
money supply depleting during the course of the week, and watch
their parents pay the rent, pay the gas meter and put actual
coins in a saving pot.
As my hon. Friend told colleagues, the Money and Pensions Service
found that money habits and behaviours are generally formed in
children by the age of seven and stay with them for life, but
many seven-year-olds today have no understanding of where money
comes from or how parents make decisions about what is spent,
because that is all done virtually. There are massive advantages
to that, of course. There are some brilliant money apps that help
people to save and plan, and there are some great ones for
children too; we use nimbl in my house, and as long as I remember
to top it up before pocket money day, everybody is happy. The
point is that young children do not see the money, so they are
not involved in budgeting unless we explicitly include them in
money handling. Otherwise, they miss an early opportunity to see
how money works.
The second reason why young people lack confidence is that they
enter the labour market so much later than children in previous
generations. Many people my grandparents’ age started work at 15.
They went out, learned a trade and brought in a wage. They had no
choice but to learn how to use their wage wisely, so they had
early experience of the importance of careful money management,
while still having the back-up of parents. Now, with compulsory
full-time education until 18 and half of young people then going
into full-time higher education, today’s young people just do not
have the opportunity to earn a wage and learn financial
responsibility until five or sometimes even 10 years later than
children in former generations. Some young people go through
their entire adolescence, and into adulthood, with very little
practical opportunity to learn. Again, of course, there are
significant advantages to more time in formal education, but we
need to be honest about the disadvantages too: the lack of
real-world experience and responsibility and the lack of
confidence, and the fact that those can lead to poor decision
making later in life if they are not rectified.
The third reason for children and young people having lower
confidence than children in previous generations, which is linked
to being dependent on parents much longer, is that parenting has
changed. Parents find it much harder to say no to children than
in previous generations; that is just a culture change that has
developed. We bail out our children far more and are reluctant to
let them fail, so they miss out on the opportunity to learn
important life lessons about taking responsibility and
consequences earlier on in their lives. Research by the American
psychologist Jonathan Haidt reveals that, in western culture,
today’s 18-year-olds have the life experience of the 15-year-olds
of generations ago, largely because of the way that society and
parents over-protect them, including financially. As parents, we
have to ask ourselves: what is the exit plan? We cannot expect
children to go from handouts to careful money management and
understanding pensions and interest rates on the day they leave
school or university; there needs to be a gradual and deliberate
passing over of risk and responsibility.
The final reason for poor money management skills in the younger
generation is debt. Debt and credit have become an accepted part
of household finances in a way that they were not before. In the
1980s, household debt accounted for about 30% of GDP; now it is
well over 80%. Of course, the boom in property prices has added
significant debt to household budgets, but with the availability
of credit cards and the lack of stigma about debt, it is hard for
children to learn the true consequences of not managing money
properly—until it is too late. For young people today, the
inevitability of student debt means that a huge proportion start
their adult lives in debt—a debt that many never repay. It is
then difficult for young people to be hopeful about their
financial situation. When they know they are in the red, how do
they resist taking on more debt? How do they resist one more
latte, when they know they will never be able to afford a house,
and when there is no possibility of paying off their student loan
for an awfully long time? Starting adult life in debt, which is
now prevalent, is the worst possible foundation for a sound
financial life. It also misleads young people, because other
debts are not like that. If they take on a mortgage or take out a
car loan, they have to pay it back regardless of their income and
it will not be cancelled when they retire.
What do we need to do? Let us leave the issue of student loans
for another day. As with all teaching of skills and values,
education starts at home, and it is primarily the role of parents
to show children how to manage money. We need to think
collectively as parents about how we do that in a digital age. I
am sure it is possible but it needs to be deliberate.
Board games are a brilliant way to learn, although Monopoly
probably puts younger children off capitalism for life.
Imagination Gaming, a brilliant group in my constituency, goes
into schools and does board games with children. That teach them
not just maths, numeracy and financial ability but collaborative
and social skills. So board games are really helpful.
However, there is an important role for schools, as part of their
duty to prepare people for adult life, and also to break the
cycle in families where there is not sound financial management,
so that that skill can then be passed on. I agree that adding the
topic to the curriculum in 2014 was a good start but, as my hon.
Friend said, it is not being delivered. Citizenship is often not
taught by experts and is not examined. It is understandable,
given the pressure schools are under, that it is not a top
priority. So my suggestion, which is similar to my hon. Friend’s,
would be to put it on the maths curriculum, each and every year,
from foundation stage all the way to school leaving. If we start
with simple budget calculations, by their mid-teens pupils can
have an understanding of mortgages, interest, shares, bonds and
pensions.
Money is all about maths and mental arithmetic, and children love
handling money. As we have heard, and as I have experienced,
children are very engaged when the lesson is important to their
future lives. If we embed financial education in a core and
examined subject in the curriculum, it will be taught. I
appreciate that many teachers might need upskilling and their
confidence boosting, but for many children it could make the
difference between a confident, successful life and one of debt
and misery.
We should also explore ways that schools can offer more practical
experience, such as through young enterprise clubs or having an
internal market for tuck shops and other such things. In my hon.
Friend’s briefing, I read about the brilliant example of
Queensmead Primary Academy in Leicester, which created an entire
school market for its year 6 pupils.
We absolutely must see financial education as a core subject in
schools and the home. Then we will be giving children the secure,
firm foundation they need for a life, hopefully, of financial
confidence and security.
10.02am
(Feltham and Heston)
(Lab/Co-op)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Dame Angela. I
congratulate the hon. Member for Broadland () on securing this important
debate. I support his calls for greater awareness and more ways
to embed financial education in our school curriculums and for
the resources to help deliver that. He laid out a strong case in
terms of the impact on young people’s lives.
I, too, had no financial education at school. Two parts in my
life were instructive. The first was when I opened my first bank
account as a child. I remember the Midland bank and the sports
bag I was given. Maybe I am old-fashioned, but that was a
physical thing, with a pencil case, clipboard and folder in it,
and it was symbolic to me of growing up. With that, come new
conversations.
The second involved my father, an engineer who became a small
businessman. We grew up above our shop, so we had a sense of the
transactions within it. My father went on to become an
independent financial adviser. He worked from home, and hearing
conversations about personal equity plans and ISAs in the home
environment does create an awareness of those things. The hon.
Member is right, and those of us who have worked cross-party on
some of these issues recognise, that that awareness of and
contact with such discussions and debates is extremely important
from a young age.
The debate comes in the midst of a cost of living crisis, where
people are having to consider more than ever their budgeting
skills, their use of credit and debt and their savings. In the
2022-23 young persons’ money index, 70% of young people said they
were more anxious about money and finances due to the cost of
living crisis. That rose to 83% for 17 to 18-year-olds. That is
hugely instructive. Alongside the conversations about how much to
save at the age of 18—every pound saved at the age of 18 is going
to have a much bigger impact on a pension than one saved in later
years—we also have to recognise that young people are struggling
so much to make ends meet for themselves and their families that
some of these conversations can be lost. We have to make sure
that we embed skills for life in our education and have policies
that make sure people can save from an earlier age.
Helping to build an understanding of financial matters, advice
and support, and resilience is exactly what financial education
teaches. It is a tool of financial inclusion. I refer to my entry
in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests, where I have
recorded that I am a commissioner on the Financial Inclusion
Commission. We know that,
without vital early education, young people are likely to
struggle to achieve financial literacy as part of their life
skills.
The hon. Member for Broadland referenced the University of
Cambridge research, which shows that children establish attitudes
to money by the age of seven and behaviours towards money by the
age of 14. Even if there is financial education in schools, those
attitudes are increasingly important for understanding how much
young people will take it on board and choose to engage with it.
Headteachers tell me that young people are making choices about
the value of their education at a much younger age—even from 11
or 12. We have to think about that when looking at primary
schools, and I will reference primary schools in my
constituency.
It is important to see the impact of apps such as GoHenry, which
my nephew, Karan, uses. I am still a bit old-fashioned—I like to
hold physical things. It is, however, impactful and important to
have new ways in which young people are thinking about their
finances. The Money and Pensions Service has set a national goal
to see 2 million more children and young people getting a
meaningful financial education by 2030. I would like to see that
goal accelerated.
Financial education is hugely significant because it is also part
of the social mobility puzzle. The Centre for Financial
Capability has found that children with low financial literary
scores tend to come from poorer areas, but education can see
savings rise significantly. We have made progress, but I would
argue that it is not enough. It is important that we find new
ways to tackle the challenges to effective delivery of financial
education.
Although financial education now has a limited statutory status
in secondary schools, a survey of teachers for the all-party
parliamentary group on financial education for young people—as
the hon. Member for Broadland will know—found that two fifths or
so of teachers are unaware of their statutory duty to deliver
financial education. Among those who are currently not delivering
financial education in schools, training, time and funding were
identified as key barriers.
I want to thank some of the providers and campaigners for change,
such as Quentin Nason of City Pay It Forward, which partners
state schools with finance and business professionals to help
make connections for financial education and show what it can
mean in terms of the professions that young people might choose
later in life. However, charities and the private sector should
not be picking up the pieces as a result of Government neglect,
and nor should they be addressing the difficulty of implementing
financial education for our schools and teachers. There needs to
be a bigger plan. Some of the issues raised by other experts have
included the experience of teaching in schools being variable;
resources being fragmented; teachers not having confidence; and
schools still being stuck in covid recovery, which is impacting
what they see as extras to the curriculum.
I will share a few bits of feedback that I have had from schools
in my constituency. A good example comes from Isleworth &
Syon School, which is just outside my constituency, but a lot of
my young people will be going there. There is a positive story
there about formal, structured units of learning on financial
literacy in year 10. Every student receives lessons over eight
weeks in year 10, covering topics such as wages, tax,
budgeting,
debt and borrowing, and ethical consumerism. Sixth-form students
receive additional lessons on budgeting before they head off to
university or apprenticeships. The importance of the integrating
financial education within the wider curriculum is also
recognised, including in weekly maths lessons, where it can have
an impact, and within economics and business lessons.
Other headteachers, however, have said that although that is
important, it does not cover everybody, and we need to have a
broader and more consistent view for pupils across our education
system. One school told me about the positive impact of Martin
Lewis’s donation of class textbooks to every state secondary
school about four years ago. They are still being used, because
they provide invaluable guidance both for students and for
personal, social, health and economic education teachers. I pay
tribute to for his efforts in this
regard.
When I asked schools about the impact of financial education on
pupils, the response was very interesting. The feedback was that
pupils really liked to learn about financial topics; teachers say
they know that because the pupils asked many more questions and
gave really good feedback at the end of the sessions. However,
schools also recognise that it takes highly skilled teachers to
teach these topics well, and they struggle to access and afford
those teachers.
I was also very interested to hear from Cranford Community
College and Logic Studio School in my constituency. Logic Studio
School runs an investment club and wants to see all of its pupils
becoming financially literate. It says that financial literacy is
a non-negotiable skill that we must all acquire, which it
believes can be achieved only by making financial literacy a
focus in education. It talks about partnerships with charities
such as MyBnk and with Quilter asset management to give students
a stronger background—but, again, that is piecemeal and based on
whatever it can manage within the constraints of the wider school
context.
Primary schools are also vital. Southville Primary School shared
with me details of how, within its PSHE teaching, it encourages
children to explore money and shopping, including where people
get their money from and different sources of income. It has also
participated in Young Enterprise Week, whereby groups of year 6
students are given a small budget and have to invest it in
developing a product or service. I pay tribute to Young
Enterprise in its 60th anniversary year. The all-party
parliamentary group on entrepreneurship, which I chair, launched
a very important report with Young Enterprise on applied
learning, with recommendations that I hope the Government will
continue to assess.
Financial education must be considered in the context of broader
challenges that we cannot ignore. When we talk about the quality
of teaching, we must recognise that teacher vacancies have more
than doubled under this Government. There are more than 2,000
temporarily filled posts a year, teacher recruitment targets have
been missed again and more teachers are leaving our classrooms
than entering them. Earlier this summer, teachers in Hounslow
told me that there were about 1,100 vacancies for teachers within
a 10-mile radius.
It is not just about recruiting teachers. The lack of retention
of teachers is also causing huge instability when it comes to
important learning in our schools.
That is why what Labour has outlined, including using the money
from ending private schools’ tax breaks to support recruitment in
our schools to plug the skills gaps, is really important for how
we deliver education. That has to be part of the context in which
the Minister responds.
I am also very proud that Labour has announced that it would
urgently commission a full expert-led review of curriculum and
assessment, to ensure that every child has a broad curriculum.
Under Labour, young people will learn practical life skills of
the kind that the hon. Member for Broadland outlined, such as
pension planning, understanding credit scores, applying for a
mortgage and understanding employment and rental contracts.
Financial literacy is more important than ever. It is not just
about numbers; it is about life skills, security and future
opportunities. It is also about us, as policymakers, being
ambitious for our young people and their future, and about
recognising that financial education is a key part of how we
close the prosperity gap rather than increasing inequality for
future generations. It is vital that we equip our young people,
such as those in Feltham and Heston, with the financial education
that will stay with them for life.
10.14am
(Warrington South) (Con)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Feltham and Heston
(). I extend my gratitude to
my hon. Friend the Member for Broadland () for securing this really
important debate. I am grateful to him for the opportunity to
talk about financial education. I echo so much of what he said; I
have scribbled some of it down and crossed out some of my notes,
because I do not want to spend a lot of time repeating the points
that he made so well.
I think everybody here wants to ensure that children leave school
with the skills and knowledge that will equip them for their
adult lives. However, I am afraid that too often it can seem that
some of the most obvious life skills are not being given
sufficient prominence, and in some cases are being completely
overlooked, during young people’s time in schools. The most
obvious is learning about basic finances. By that, I mean not
just personal finances, but macrofinance—I will talk a little
more about that—and the finance of business.
I am glad to add my support to the comments of the hon. Member
for Feltham and Heston about Young Enterprise, which I was
fortunate to be part of when I was at school. The more I look
back on it, the more I think it was incredibly instructive in
helping me to go on to be involved in business. I did not realise
at the time the level of applied learning involved in the
programme: it was hidden in an arts and crafts lesson, where we
were encouraged to make candles. I may be the least creative,
arts-and-crafty person hon. Members will ever meet— I managed to
spill more of the wax I melted on the floor than into the moulds.
Yet on the back of that, we were encouraged to come together and
form a small business to sell some candles we had created at the
school’s Christmas market. The programme had us forming a little
company that could issue some shares and distribute the profits
as and when we had managed to sell all our candles.
In the run-up to the Christmas holidays, I remember seeing rows
and rows of candles. It dawned on me that we would have quite a
lot of stock left over if the parents I hoped would turn up did
not like the products we were creating. At that point, we were
hit by the worst snow the country had faced for a decade, I
think, and the lights went out. The headteacher approached the
little Young Enterprise company we had set up and offered to buy
every single candle we had made. That was when I learned how to
negotiate with the education sector—I am happy to give the
Minister some advice if he needs it at any point—and that when
you have something that everybody else wants but there is a
limited supply, you can control the price. We got double the
amount that we had expected to make on those candles. Every
classroom had one—indeed, every teacher had a candle issued as
part of their Christmas holiday gift so that when the lights were
out at home, they could light the candle and have a little bit of
light from our Young Enterprise company. We learned a huge
amount. Looking back, the school’s work on applied learning was
incredibly creatively done.
I talk today to young people in schools about how business is
conducted and how they can use their ideas to generate wealth,
but there is a lack of understanding in too many of our schools.
Too often, unfortunately, I meet constituents who have fallen
into the spiral of debt and are often going to loan sharks and
illegal moneylenders to try to get themselves out of very
difficult situations. As my hon. Friend the Member for Broadland
mentioned earlier, it is not just about the constant nagging of
trying to pay off those debts, but about the impact that that has
on mental health. We have a responsibility to increase financial
literacy in our schools.
On Monday, before I came here, I met Angela Fishwick, the chief
executive of the credit union in Warrington. She talked to me
about some of the excellent work that she is doing in schools,
helping at a primary level to encourage children to save. I
remember signing up for my Griffin savers account with Midland
bank, like the hon. Member for Feltham and Heston, and being
given a bag and a clipboard. I also remember being an investor in
NatWest, where I was given a piggybank to put money into. Saving
money was a physical job. The more money I saved, the more
piggybanks I got. I still have them at home, and my son, who is
15, looks at them and thinks, “What do you put in there?”,
because we do not have money in the same way now.
As my hon. Friend the Member for Penistone and Stocksbridge
() mentioned, the way we
transact has changed. Everything is done through digital
transactions and the ability to save physical cash has gone.
However, the Unify credit union is still enabling that in
schools. The ability to put a pound into an account at a very
early age and see it grow is incredibly important. I was pleased
to hear about the work Angela Fishwick is doing in schools,
delving into some of the most basic elements of financial
literacy in primary schools to encourage children to save early.
Talking to her reinforced to me the important role finances play
in every part of our lives, whether that is paying taxes, opening
a bank account, taking out a mortgage or even just budgeting for
the weekly shop. It really does affect everyone.
Financial education is not just about personal financial
education; it is also about macroeconomics. I try to visit a
different school in my constituency every week and
talk to students about the topics that they would like to cover
more of in lessons. Students in the early years of secondary
school in particular often talk about the importance of financial
education—they do not call it financial education, but they talk
about those issues.
Recently, in an English lesson, students at the high school in
Appleton wrote to me as their MP about changes they wanted to see
in their school. A couple of the boys wanted more goalposts, more
footballs and better facilities. I took the opportunity to meet
them, and we talked about the cost of all those things. They
wanted me to give them the money—because I am the MP, and I have
lots of money available to me—so they could buy new
equipment.
We talked about the taxation system and where money comes from to
fund the services in their town that they enjoy and benefit from.
It was fascinating to see the level of ignorance about where
public funding comes from. I remember saying to them, “The
Government have no money. The only money the Government have is
our money, and the only way they generate money is by taxes. When
you go to work, you’re going to contribute your taxes. The more
you earn, the more you’re going to contribute.” I could see their
faces changing very quickly. The idea of paying into this system
was not something that they were aware of.
My hon. Friend the Member for Penistone and Stocksbridge
mentioned that so many young people today do not go to work
before the age of 18. I started in a shop when I was 16, and I
remember receiving my payslip very early on and seeing that tax
had been taken out of it. At the time, tax thresholds were very
low and people did not have to earn very much—in fact, I think I
was on an emergency tax code from day one. A big chunk of what I
earned got taken away from me, and that brought home to me very
early our impact and how we contribute to society. If we want to
see benefits in our community, we have to contribute to it.
It is not just about personal contributions; it is about
community contributions as well. Young people do not see that in
the same way, because the tax thresholds that the Conservative
Government have lifted to £12,000 mean that the majority of young
people who are earning today will pay absolutely no tax until
they get past university education. Understanding the tax system
would have been an important and practical thing for many young
people, but that has changed—it has gone.
I want to conclude by asking the Minister a couple of questions.
It is interesting to see the lack of understanding about
financial education in schools, but I want to know what support
and training is on offer to teachers, who are instrumental in
helping. What partnerships is he encouraging with business and
organisations such as Young Enterprise to help to skill teachers,
many of whom have spent their entire working lives in the
education system, do not have a background in business and cannot
talk with authority about the issues that affect business? Does
he agree that what we have classed as macroeconomics—the taxation
system and the way we fund services—should be taught to everybody
as they go through school, not just to those who study economics
at A-level? I remember doing A-level economics and spending a lot
of time talking about the tax system. If students do not study
economics, they do not get any education in it at all. For me, it
is a matter not just of financial education, but of understanding
our democracy and how we all contribute to society.
I will not take up too much more time; I am keen to hear what
other Members have to say. Ultimately, we could make a huge
difference to young people’s lives by championing the issue,
which is undoubtedly something that Members of all parties can
support.
10.26am
(Motherwell and Wishaw)
(SNP)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Dame
Angela.
I am delighted to be here this morning. I declare an interest as
a vice-chair, since 2015, of the all-party parliamentary group on
financial education for young people. I sometimes feel a bit of a
fraud when I talk about financial education and financial
matters. I was married for 47 years to a senior tax manager in a
firm of international accountants and we were terrible at
handling money. That was very much down to my late husband’s
philosophy, which was, “Don’t worry about money. It only matters
when somebody owes you and you’re not getting it.” I can now say
this in public because, as many Members will know, my husband
died five years ago.
I grew up in a poor family, and I identify with the point that
the hon. Member for Penistone and Stocksbridge () made about jars. That was
how my mammy managed money. It is not how my children manage
money, and it is not how I do it now.
I congratulate the hon. Member for Broadland (), the chair of the APPG, on
his good work and on getting the debate today. It is one of those
debates in Westminster Hall about which we can think, “9.30 on a
Tuesday morning and a late night—oh my goodness,” even though I
am passionate about the subject. However, every contributor so
far has touched on different aspects and the debate has been
really well rounded. I may now not live up to expectations! I
thank the Centre for Social Justice, which sent me a briefing,
and the Money and Pensions Service for its briefing.
As many Members know, education is devolved in Scotland. We have
already incorporated financial education into both the primary
and the secondary school curriculums, and we have taken a lead in
embedding money management in other aspects of the curriculum. I
say this a lot: we do some things differently in Scotland and
sometimes that is better. Rather than looking “abroad abroad”,
perhaps the Government could look at what is being done in
Scotland and learn from it. It is a lot cheaper to travel there
and it is much easier to talk to folk in Scotland, although we
may have a slightly different accent and sometimes our English is
not always so intelligible.
Strong financial education is increasingly important in a
financial crisis. It is important that people—especially young
people, for all the reasons Members have given—have a sound
financial backing. I know that many people are suffering. Much of
my constituency is in areas of multiple deprivation, and money
really matters. It is so important that our constituents know how
to manage money better. We all—not just our constituents—need to
know how to manage money and use it to best effect. It is very
difficult for young people in some areas to understand how money
works, because of digital money. I am very fortunate that two of
my granddaughters have GoHenry cards that they understand and
use, but I know that many of my constituents have never heard of
things like
that. They do not understand what is happening and, where there
is no access to cash, they are really struggling. It is such a
trigger.
The hon. Member for Broadland talked about the mental health
aspects of bad financial management and how, if people get
themselves into a debt spiral, it becomes more and more difficult
to get out. Although there are good local services—in my own
constituency, the local council has a tackling poverty team—those
in debt sometimes cannot see any way out. It is really important
that we give people the tools for now and for the future to
enable them to manage money wisely.
It is also very important that people understand the consequences
of spending. When I was a further education lecturer at West
Lothian College—a number of years ago, it has to be said—I was
absolutely appalled at how little my students, who ranged in age
from 16 to 60, knew about money management. They had not even
heard of things like annual percentage rates. They did not
understand the huge amount more that they had to pay because they
were buying things on credit and that, if they were able to save,
they could have got them much cheaper. That is still the case for
many of our poorest people in society. There is a poverty
premium. People pay more for accessing services and paying for
energy simply because they are poor. We have talked about how we
are moving to digital money: so many people are digitally
excluded right across the UK, so they are doubly impacted.
Pennies and pounds are lost through misspending. The hon. Member
for Penistone and Stocksbridge said that it is another latte;
that is a real thing because young people nowadays almost no
longer have the ability to save money and earn more. Furthermore,
when they come out of university in England—I have to make this
point—they are seriously in debt. Students in Scotland come out
of university and college in debt as well but not by nearly as
much because tertiary education is free in Scotland.
It is vital not only that we put financial education on the
curriculum but that it is properly delivered. I want to pay real
tribute to MyBnk and to Young Enterprise, mentioned by the hon.
Member for Warrington South (). My children also benefited
from that kind of thing. In our case, the house smelled of
potpourri for years afterwards. It is important that we do all of
this. Many external partners do really good work, and teachers
would not necessarily inevitably have to take on a further
burden. I went to visit MyBnk in its flat in Glasgow. It does
great work with care leavers, which the APPG has looked at in the
past. They leave care with absolutely no one to help them. It is
slightly different now as the age for care support has been
increased. I know in Scotland it is 25; I think it has been
increased here, too. We need to help those people in that huge
area.
I know that I am going slightly off brief, but it is really
important that we not just educate young people but reach out and
show them—as an organisation, as Parliament—the consequences of
the mismanagement of cash. I do not want to see any other
generation growing up without understanding where money comes
from, how important it is to manage it properly and how important
savings are. I now know that. I have learned through bitter
experience how important it is.
It is also about making sure that the future is better for all
our people. However, it has to be said that there are swathes of
the population—here I stray slightly into my disabilities
portfolio—for whom it is absolutely impossible to save. They have
to juggle money every day to make it stretch as far as they can,
and no matter how much work we do here, that will always be the
case. That is another seriously good reason why people need
financial education for when they find themselves facing a change
of life, because it can happen to any of us. I lived for many
years from one salary to the next. There was nothing behind. If
either I or my husband fell ill or had to give up work, there was
no cushion. We have to have financial education so that we can
provide cushions for people and so that they can find them when
times are tough. As a Government and a Parliament, we also need
to provide a sound financial base for those who cannot work and
who will therefore still need financial education to enable them
to live well.
10.36am
(Newcastle upon Tyne
North) (Lab)
It is a real pleasure to serve under you as Chair, Dame Angela. I
am really delighted to take on this role as shadow schools
Minister, as part of Labour’s education team. I have long
believed that every child deserves the best start in life.
Ensuring that we have the best schools and the best education and
support for all children is key to ensuring that.
I thank the hon. Member for Broadland () for securing this debate
and opening it so thoroughly and for his work on the all-party
parliamentary group on financial education for young people. He
made a compelling case and set out the issues very clearly
indeed. I also pay tribute to the teachers, school staff and
charities across the country—which many hon. Members have
mentioned—that are working really hard to improve the financial
literacy of our young people.
The purpose of education should be to enable young people to
understand the world around them, to explore and develop their
interests and to prepare them for their futures with the
knowledge and skills they will need to thrive throughout life. We
know—we have heard many testimonies today—that managing money is
fundamental to a person’s stability and security. Whether it is
working out prices in a supermarket—no tall order—managing a
household budget or figuring out the terms of a mortgage or loan,
everybody, regardless of their background, needs to be equipped
to make these everyday financial decisions. We have heard the
evidence: people who are financially literate are much more
likely to have savings, to avoid scams and fraud and to invest
their money effectively. This should not be left to chance.
Financial literacy is important not just to households, but to
our society.
We have heard compelling speeches from all Members who have
contributed to today’s debate—my hon. Friend the Member for
Feltham and Heston () and the hon. Members for
Penistone and Stocksbridge () and for Warrington South
(), as well as the hon. Member
for East Londonderry (Mr Campbell), who contributed previously.
This is clearly an issue on which there is a lot of cross-party
agreement. A lot of thought and consideration has gone into where
we are currently. We need our economy
to grow. Giving financial literacy to more people in our society,
and everyone as they grow, will equip them to start new
businesses, taking them from start to scale-up, to help to grow
our economy and pay for the public services that we all need.
As things stand, too many young people are leaving school without
these skills. A number of facts and figures have been given
today, but the one that really jumped out at me is the OECD
figure that an estimated 10 million people in the UK—a fifth of
all adults—are financially illiterate. It is shocking and
alarming. The UK ranks in the bottom half of OECD countries in
financial literacy. We know that that has consequences not just
for those individuals who potentially live in constant financial
insecurity, but for our whole economy. Almost 13 million adults
struggle to pay their bills—today—and more than half of adults do
not have savings that could support them for three months if they
lost their primary income. We know that life is becoming
increasingly hard as we sit here, day by day, for families up and
down the country. We know that the hardest hit people will be
those whose budgets are the most stretched and for whom money
does not go as far as it used to; they are the ones missing out
most on financial education.
As we heard from the hon. Member for Broadland, financial
education is patchy across the country, and many schools struggle
to teach it. Far too many young people leave school without these
skills for life. Only 8% of students cite school as their main
source of financial education. A Bank of England survey in March
found that almost two thirds of teachers cited a lack of
dedicated time in the timetable for delivery. In personal,
social, health and economic education, the economic too often
drops off the end. That is storing up problems for the
future.
Young people say that they want to be taught more life skills in
school. The Centre for Social Justice conducted a survey, and
four in five said that they worried about money. I hear that from
schoolchildren when I visit schools in my local area. Two in
three say that they have become more anxious about money as a
result of covid. Three in four say that they want to learn more
about money—and probably about more money—at school, yet Ofsted
has found that there is a postcode lottery in the teaching of
financial education and the most disadvantaged are missing out.
It is not good enough, and it is storing up problems for the
future.
A key part of the current financial literacy strategy comes from
the mathematics curriculum, which is supposed to ensure that
young people leave school with an understanding of personal
financial management and the skills that they need for it.
However, the Government have failed to recruit and retain
teachers, meaning that one in 10 maths lessons in the past year
have been taught by a non-expert. That means that the high
standards we want for all our children are being delivered for
only some of our children. It is not good enough, and it is
storing up problems for the future. That is why the next Labour
Government will urgently commission a full, expert-led review of
the curriculum and assessment. We need a curriculum that is
broad, rich, innovative and develops children’s knowledge and
skills—a curriculum that ensures children leave school ready for
life and builds on the knowledge, skills and attributes that they
need to survive. Labour’s curriculum review will look to embed
those skills in everyday learning.
Following Labour’s review of all state schools, including
academies, they will be required to teach a core national
curriculum, so that every parent knows the essentials of what
their child will be taught: there will be a common national
standard that gives parents and children certainty. Labour will
ensure that children are taught those lessons properly. It means
being taught by experts, not by overstretched teachers covering
for their colleagues. We will do it by recruiting thousands of
new teachers across the country and ensuring that all schools are
properly staffed, that maths classes are taught by trained maths
teachers and that teachers are given manageable workloads, no
longer covering their own job and someone else’s.
Education is about opportunity. It is about opportunity for each
of us—all of us—our whole lives long. It should enable us to
develop the knowledge and skills to explore our interests and
thrive throughout life. It is our duty and the Government’s duty
to ensure that young people do not miss out on that opportunity.
I hope that the Minister will outline what the Government are
doing to ensure that every child leaves education financially
literate and whether the Government will give parents the
certainty of knowing that every school follows an agreed, shared
national curriculum. I hope the Minister will reassure us that
the Government are listening to the important contributions that
have been made today and, again, I thank the hon. Member for
Broadland for securing the debate.
10.45am
The Minister for Schools ()
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Dame Angela. I
congratulate the hon. Member for Newcastle upon Tyne North
() on her appointment as
shadow Minister for Schools. I look forward to working with her
and debating all these important subjects with her. I also
congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Broadland () on securing the debate and
on the important points that he made in his opening speech. I
thank him and the all-party group on financial education for
young people for their work on this important issue.
My hon. Friend the Member for Warrington South (), also known as Jo Malone,
gave an instructive example of young enterprise and how he gouged
his school’s finances. As my hon. Friend the Member for Broadland
said, evidence shows that the knowledge, attitudes and behaviour
that help people to manage money and achieve good financial
wellbeing begin to develop from an early age and continue
throughout childhood and the teenage years.
Good maths is the gateway to lifelong financial stability.
Evidence from the 2018 programme for international student
assessment—PISA—shows that there is a strong correlation between
performance in financial literacy and performance in mathematics.
The correlation was observed in every participating country.
There was also a positive correlation between financial literacy
and learning finance-related terms at school.
Since 2010 we have made significant progress in ensuring that
pupils have a strong grasp of the basics by transforming the way
that maths is taught in schools. To ensure the curriculum is
taught effectively, we introduced
teaching methods used by top performing countries, particularly
in east Asia. The concept of maths mastery aims to ensure that
all pupils secure a deep knowledge and understanding of
mathematics.
The results of international surveys show that England performs
above the international averages for maths in all international
studies of school-age pupils. In particular, analysis of PISA
2018 results showed that the performance of 15-year-olds improved
significantly in maths, and the trends in international
mathematics and science study, known as TIMSS, showed that the
performance of England’s year 5 pupils was significantly higher
in 2019 than in any previous TIMSS survey. The 2023 Ofsted maths
subject report also highlights “notable improvements” at
secondary, with a “resounding, positive shift” taking place in
primary mathematics over recent years.
Our national network of 40 maths hubs also supports schools to
improve their maths teaching, including financial content in the
mathematics curriculum, based on best practice from east Asia. To
build on progress, the Secretary of State recently announced that
we will increase the number of schools supported by the maths
hubs’ teaching for mastery programme so that we reach 75% of
primary schools and 65% of secondary schools by 2025.
We want pupils to leave school prepared in the widest sense for
adult life. From early years onwards, all children should be
taught a broad, ambitious, knowledge-rich curriculum, of which
quality financial education is an important component. That
ensures that all young people are prepared to manage money and
make sound financial decisions. Financial knowledge already forms
a compulsory part of the national curriculum for maths at key
stages 1 to 4 and citizenship at key stages 3 and 4.
I was delighted to hear from the hon. Member for Feltham and
Heston () about the success of Martin
Lewis’s textbook in schools. It is a knowledge-rich textbook and
is a primer to the introduction of financial education and the
vocabulary of finance.
In the primary maths curriculum there is a strong emphasis on the
essential maths that is vital to underpin pupils’ ability to
manage budgets and money, including, for example, calculations
with percentages. The secondary maths curriculum develops
students’ use of formal maths knowledge to interpret and solve
problems such as interest rates and compound interest.
The primary citizenship programme of study equips pupils to
understand the sources and purpose of money and the benefits of
saving. It makes it clear that financial contexts are useful for
learning about making choices and exploring social and moral
dilemmas. The secondary citizenship curriculum prepares students
to manage their money well and plan for future financial needs,
and key stage 3 covers the functions and uses of money,
day-to-day money management, budgeting and managing risk. Key
stage 4 covers income and expenditure, credit and debt,
insurance, savings, pensions, and financial products and
services.
My hon. Friend the Member for Penistone and Stocksbridge () raised concerns about online
issues. Using technology safely and responsibly is now taught at
all key stages of the computing curriculum, which provides pupils
with the e-safety knowledge that they need to make informed
decisions while online or using other digital applications and
technologies, including in financial contexts. Through statutory
relationships,
sex and health education, or RSHE, pupils are taught about
internet safety and online harms, such as the risks associated
with online gambling and the accumulation of debt. The RSHE
curriculum is currently being reviewed, and revised guidance will
be published next year.
The 2020 UK strategy for financial wellbeing set a national goal
of 2 million more children and young people receiving a
meaningful financial education by 2030. The Money and Pensions
Service has a statutory duty to co-ordinate the work of the
numerous organisations involved in delivering that goal. The
service recently published the UK children and young people’s
financial wellbeing survey, which provides an initial analysis of
the progress made towards that national goal. The report found
that in 2022 just under half of children and young people aged
seven to 17 were receiving a meaningful financial education as
defined by the strategy. That is a similar proportion to 2019,
which suggests that progress towards the national goal remains
static, as my hon. Friend the Member for Broadland mentioned.
There are positive signs that some of the organisations working
towards the national goal have delivered financial education
lessons to more young people. For example, the work of UK Finance
members, which include banks and other financial services,
provided 4,300—sorry, 4 million; I think I need some financial
education myself. Some 4,307,000 children received a financial
education in a school or community setting in 2022, an increase
of 63% on 2021. Other evidence from the Money and Pensions
Service shows that too many young people are entering adulthood
without the knowledge and understanding they need to manage money
well. For example, just over half of young people aged 16 and 17
are unable to read a payslip correctly, almost three in 10 are
unable to correctly identify the terms for interest and balance,
and around a fifth report feeling anxious when thinking about
their money, which rises to 50% for 18 to 24-year-olds.
My hon. Friend the Member for Broadland mentioned the APPG report
and the fact that 41% of participating secondary school teachers
did not know that financial education was required to be taught
under the national curriculum. The Department’s survey found that
69% of secondary schools taught money management to pupils last
year, but that suggests that more needs to be done. That is why
the work of the Money and Pensions Service, through its data
collection, national strategy and delivery plans, is so
important, and why we continue to work closely with the service
and other Government Departments. We are also using Oak National
Academy; it will be producing materials for citizenship and
expects to launch the procurement for that next year.
My hon. Friend also raised the issue of teacher training. Of
course, recruiting and retaining teachers is crucial to every
curriculum subject, and the Department is driving an ambitious
transformation programme to overhaul the process of training to
be a teacher. That includes stimulating initial interest through
the teaching and marketing campaign, one-to-one support and
advice for prospective trainees, and the use of more real-time
data on applications. The Department has also made a financial
incentive package, which is worth up to £181 million, to
encourage people to come into teaching. Recruitment to
citizenship teacher training courses is unrestricted—there are no
caps on it—which means that initial teacher training providers
are free to recruit as many future citizenship teachers as they
can teach.
The Money and Pensions Service is investing over £1 million
through a grant programme that includes testing approaches to
embedding and scaling teacher training in financial education.
These projects will run until March next year, with evaluation
findings for the programme expected in that year. The Prime
Minister and the Secretary of State recently announced the launch
of a new fully-funded national professional qualification to be
available from February next year that will focus on leadership
and teach participants how to embed mastery approaches to the
teaching of mathematics throughout a school.
Finally—so that I can give my hon. Friend the Member for
Broadland a moment to summarise the debate— I reiterate the
Government’s commitment to ensuring that all children should be
taught a broad, ambitious and knowledge-rich curriculum.
Financial education already forms a mandatory part of the
national curriculum for mathematics and for citizenship, and
rooting financial education in these subjects ensures that the
curriculum remains focused on the important knowledge that pupils
need to manage their money with confidence.
We have made positive progress in improving attainment in
mathematics, which underpins financial application. It is
important, though, to build on that success, which is why we are
striving to improve financial capability, including through the
maths to 18 programme launched by the Prime Minister recently,
Oak Academy resources, and the recruitment and retention of
excellent teachers. To do this, we need to continue to work
closely across Government and in partnership with others. It is
right that we approach this in a co-ordinated and joined up way
through the work of the Money and Pensions Service’s UK strategy
and delivery plan for England.
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I have a number of thank yous, alongside those to hon. Members
for their excellent contributions. I thank Young Enterprise—which
provides the secretariat for the APPG on financial education for
young people—and the Centre for Social Justice, the Money and
Pensions Service and the Institute and Faculty of Actuaries for
their briefings. The latter highlighted a point that has not been
brought out in the debate so far: the transfer of risk from
organisations to individuals, particularly in pensions, which has
accelerated as we have moved towards defined contribution
pensions and the ability to sell out our pensions at an earlier
stage.
Financial education is a hugely important subject and it has been
treated as such by all contributors. My hon. Friend the Member
for Penistone and Stocksbridge () brought to the debate her
experience as a teacher. The hon. Member for Feltham and Heston
() talked about the skills for
life, and the need to use financial education as a tool for
social mobility and to close the prosperity gap. My hon. Friend
the Member for Warrington South () mentioned important lessons
on macroeconomics and tax, which may veer into politics in
schools.
The hon. Member for Motherwell and Wishaw () shared her experience as
an FE lecturer and spoke about the poverty premium. That is a
really important point; there is a poverty premium in this
country, and financial education is the kind of subject that can
help to address it. I congratulate the hon.
Member for Newcastle upon Tyne North () on her new position,
and thank her for bringing her perspective.
Finally, I thank the Minister for engaging with me on this
subject. There is so much agreement on the state of the problem,
but in my submission there is more work to be done on the
strength of the answer. I recognise the work of the Money and
Pensions Service, and I hear with interest the plans for the Oak
National Academy and the new work it has planned for next year. I
look forward to many further discussions as we work together to
improve in this policy area.
Question put and agreed to.
Resolved,
That this House has considered financial education in schools.
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