Ben Lake (Ceredigion) (PC) I beg to move, That this House has
considered the implementation of ECO4 and ECO+. It is a pleasure to
serve under your chairmanship. Mr Paisley. I am grateful for the
opportunity to discuss the importance of energy efficiency schemes
for domestic properties in general, and more specifically the
implementation of the energy company obligation 4 and energy
company obligation plus schemes. As everybody will be aware,
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(Ceredigion) (PC)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the implementation of ECO4 and
ECO+.
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship. Mr Paisley. I
am grateful for the opportunity to discuss the importance of
energy efficiency schemes for domestic properties in general, and
more specifically the implementation of the energy company
obligation 4 and energy company obligation plus schemes.
As everybody will be aware, households have had to endure wave
after wave of challenges to budgets in recent months, with each
adding to the financial burden on families and eroding living
standards. Although we have recently received welcome news that
falling wholesale energy prices will begin to feed through to
households, it is unlikely that energy bills will return to
pre-crisis levels any time soon.
A frequently cited statistic that bears repeating, lest we allow
current prices to be normalised, is that in April 2022 the Welsh
Government estimated that energy bills of £1,971 would push 45%
of Welsh households into fuel poverty. Next month, when Ofgem’s
price cap kicks back in, it will still be marginally higher, at
£2,074. The New Economics Foundation suggests that that pressure
will continue into next year, with energy bills in April 2024
estimated to be as high as 70% above pre-crisis of 2021 levels.
To put it simply, for too many households energy prices will
continue to be a significant pressure on their budgets for some
time to come. Households will also be more vulnerable this coming
winter, after being forced to use savings or take out debt to
make it through last winter.
Citizen Advice Cymru has seen an increase in the number of people
seeking debt advice, and reports that more people are falling
into arrears on essential household bills. The number of people
seeking advice on debt relating to energy bills, for example, has
more than doubled between May 2021 and May of this year. Although
that is not the purpose of today’s debate, it demonstrates why
short-term relief with energy bills is still required, including
another round of the alternative fuel payment for off-grid
households next winter.
In the long term, the energy crisis has thrown into very sharp
relief the urgent need to implement measures to bring down energy
bills permanently for households and businesses. One solution is
to transition to renewable energy sources, another—the focus of
today’s debate—is to introduce comprehensive policies to enhance
the energy efficiency of the UK’s housing stock.
That issue is particularly acute in Wales, given that we have
some of the oldest and least efficient housing stock in western
Europe. Data from the Department for Levelling Up, Housing and
Communities shows the percentage of dwellings within each local
authority with energy performance certificates rated level C or
above. The data shows that five out of the 15 local authorities
with the smallest percentage of dwellings with EPCs rated level C
or above are in Wales, with Gwynedd third from bottom at 23% and
my constituency of Ceredigion only slightly better at 25%.
It is perhaps not surprising that Ceredigion does so badly, when
we consider that 35% of our homes were constructed in the 19th
century. It is sobering to reflect on the fact that the vast
majority of the county’s 2050 housing stock has already been
built, more than a third of it in the Victorian age. The case for
action is, therefore, quite clear and simple. We need to upgrade
the energy efficiency of our housing to reduce people’s exposure
to increased energy costs. Almost a quarter of tenants in the
private rented sector live in fuel poverty, with those living in
the least efficient homes spending as much as £950 more per year
on their energy bills, compared with homes rated EPC level C.
The UK Government have made the case that it is unsustainable to
maintain support indefinitely for households with energy bills.
By retrofitting, we can mitigate the need for ongoing and future
support packages. Indeed, the New Economics Foundation estimated
that had all homes in England and Wales been upgraded to EPC
level C by October last year, the energy price guarantee would
have cost £3.5 billion less over its first six months and
households would have saved an average of £530 over the year.
Of course, retrofitting would also have significant beneficial
outcomes for health. We know that living in a cold home can
worsen asthma and other respiratory illnesses, and increases the
risk of heart disease and cardiac events. It can also worsen
musculoskeletal conditions such as arthritis, as well as having a
detrimental impact on mental health. Wales’s Future Generations
Commissioner estimated that a comprehensive home retrofitting
programme could save the Welsh NHS as much as £4.4 billion by
2040 by tackling some of those health issues.
Finally, reducing household energy demand is of course vital for
us to improve energy security, reduce our reliance on fossil
fuels and, of course, realise our climate targets. A coalition of
charities, including Fuel Poverty Action and Green Alliance, have
warned that without action on housing and buildings, there is no
plausible path to achieving the fifth carbon budget or meeting
the 2030 statutory fuel poverty target.
It is clear that home retrofitting is vital and that action taken
now will place the UK in a good position in the future. The UK
Government’s flagship fuel poverty reduction scheme, the energy
company obligation or ECO, has a key role to play in upgrading
our homes to permanently reduce the cost of heating for
households and to address fuel poverty. ECO has operated since
2013 in several iterations and up to March of this year it had
delivered a total of 3.6 million energy efficiency measures in
Great Britain. The energy performance improvements that have been
delivered have saved low-income customers as much as £17.5
billion in lifetime energy bills and saved the average home some
£290.
ECO4 is, of course, the fourth iteration of the scheme. It began
in April last year and is planned to run until March 2026. In the
past year, however, installations have dropped quite
significantly. All versions of ECO have experienced difficulties
in some form or other, but ECO4 has undoubtedly been delivering
at a slower rate than previous iterations. Energy suppliers and
installers are now warning that structural issues are preventing
the scheme from fulfilling its potential and I want to dwell on
those issues today.
Between April last year, when ECO4 commenced, and March this
year, approximately 45,000 households had received support under
the scheme. Given that that is around 10% of the 450,000
households that the scheme is supposed to support over its
four-year lifetime, there is concern about the pace of the
roll-out so far. One reason might be that the number of measures
installed per property during the roll-out of ECO4 to date has
been much higher than expected, with an average of nearly 3.5
measures per property since April 2022 compared with the average
of 1.8 measures expected in the scheme’s final impact assessment.
In the first quarter of 2023, the figure increased to an average
of 4.93 measures per household.
E.ON Energy estimates that, as result, industry could achieve its
overall national bill saving target by delivering ECO4 to only
215,000 properties of the 450,000 targeted. Of course, it is not
a bad thing that energy efficiency is being significantly
improved for those households supported by ECO4, but it raises a
question about the adequacy of the funding in place if ECO4 is to
achieve its target of supporting 450,000 households, as I am sure
that Members will agree.
(Dwyfor Meirionnydd)
(PC)
I agree entirely with my hon. Friend, as I am sure that many
would, that this is primarily a question of funding. We should
take a step back and realise that Shell has
directed £5 billion in windfall profits towards its shareholders
in the first quarter of this year, so there is surely a good case
to be made for an emergency windfall tax to enable additional
work for the other households that would benefit so much from
it.
I am very grateful to my right hon. Friend for that important
intervention and you will be unsurprised, Mr Paisley, to hear
that I agree with her that there is an important opportunity to
introduce emergency measures. At the end of the day, energy
companies are making eye-watering amounts of profit at a time
when households across the country are struggling. I think it is
very appropriate for us to consider ways of recouping some of
that potential income to put against this important measure.
Adjustments are required to get the scheme back on track so it
can achieve its full potential. The first adjustment requires the
UK Government to look again at ECO4’s cost assumptions. They were
finalised in April 2022 and do not reflect current market
conditions, including the escalation in costs caused by labour
shortages and manufacturing prices. More recent cost assumptions,
such as those included in the Great British insulation scheme’s
impact assessment, reflect those price increases.
For example, the fixed assumed costs of installing external solid
wall insulation, which comprises 12% of measures installed under
ECO4 to date, increased from £4,200 in 2021 to about £5,000 in
2022—by almost 20%. Meanwhile, the UK Government estimate that
the cost of installing cavity wall insulation for bungalows, as
well as detached, semi-detached and end-of-terrace houses, has
increased by 50% to 63%. That is all without factoring in the
inflationary pressures we have seen in 2023 so far. At the start
of 2023, insulation and associated material prices increased
significantly, many by close to 10% and some by as much as 35%,
compounding similar increases seen last year.
Another aspect of the scheme that requires attention is the
minimum requirements threshold, which means that a household’s
energy performance certificate must be improved to a particular
level. For example, if band D and E homes are to be eligible for
the scheme, they have to be upgraded to at least band C, and band
F and G homes must be upgraded to at least band D. We should
welcome the intent of that requirement. Providing support to the
poorest households in the least efficient homes by bringing them
up to a significantly higher energy performance rating is an
important objective. Nevertheless, the requirement is proving to
be a limiting factor on the scheme’s delivery. I have spoken to
installers and energy suppliers who say that the minimum
requirements are too inflexible compared with previous
schemes.
It is suggested that the requirements are making it difficult to
find eligible properties, and installers are reporting
difficulties in proving how properties in higher EPC bands, such
as those in band D, as well as on-gas properties, can meet the
requirements. E.ON Energy estimates that around 90% of qualifying
fuel-poor households cannot have works delivered to their
properties, as either they fail to meet the minimum requirements
threshold or it would be economically unviable to upgrade them to
the levels required to meet it.
(Central Suffolk and North Ipswich) (Con)
The hon. Gentleman is giving one of the best speeches I have
heard in Westminster Hall in a long time, and he has some good
evidence to back up his comments. I congratulate him on securing
the debate. My constituency, like his, has a high number of rural
homes. Many are reliant on oil-fired central heating and also
struggle to fit into the qualifying criteria for the type of
scheme that he has outlined. What advice does he have for the
Government on how we can improve the flexibility of the schemes
to ensure that oil-fired homes can qualify?
The reality is that a very high proportion, if not the majority,
of homes in rural constituencies find it difficult to access the
scheme because they are not on the mains gas network. In my
constituency, some 72% of properties are not connected to mains
gas and they are struggling uphill to get on to the scheme. The
Government would do well to look again at whether we can change
the ECO Flex pathways to allow local authorities greater
flexibility to support off-grid properties in particular. That
might be a way forward. We certainly need to address the issue.
If we do not, I worry that rural areas, which often have an
older, less efficient housing stock, will be left behind. I am
grateful to the hon. Gentleman for making that important
point.
As greater investment is required per property to meet the
minimum improvement threshold requirements, the current iteration
of the scheme appears to be more exposed, and therefore more
vulnerable, to the inflationary pressures that I mentioned
earlier, so we need to look again at how it is funded. I ask the
UK Government to look at that very carefully.
Another aspect of ECO4 that is welcome in principle, but which is
putting pressure on those delivering the scheme, is the Flex
pathway. The pathway is important, because it enables local
councils to identify low-income households that are in need of
support, but that are unlikely to be eligible under the scheme’s
standard approach. It also provides an opportunity for local
councils to better tailor energy efficiency schemes to their
respective areas, and I refer back to the remark from the hon.
Member for Central Suffolk and North Ipswich (Dr Poulter) about
rural properties. The issue, however, is that local councils feel
that the Flex pathway is too onerous and that the information
required of them for each application takes up significant staff
time and resources. Indeed, I am told that the level of detail
required can make the Flex pathway inflexible when considering
different local factors.
One of those factors is the nature of the housing stock in an
area, and I have already mentioned that Wales has some of the
oldest and least efficient housing stock in western Europe. I
spoke to representatives of Gwynedd Council, who expressed
concerns that the products available via ECO do not always work
well with the design of older houses.
On that point, I would like to mention Meilyr Tomos at Gwynedd
Council, who supplied me and others with advice on this debate.
In relation to the ECO Flex programme, another issue in Gwynedd
is second homes. Younger people are now priced out of staying in
their own homes, and more non-dependant children are remaining
with their parents—between 2011 and the 2021 census, in Gwynedd
the figure increased by 6.8%. Given that non-dependant children
artificially inflate household incomes, that has a knock-on
effect on ECO Flex. The Government would be wise to give due
attention to such rural issues.
I agree with my right hon. Friend. The Flex pathway offers a real
opportunity to allow the policy to be tailored to the specific
needs of local areas, so as to accelerate the delivery without
impacting on the broader scheme that the Government have
implemented.
The consequence of rising costs and a perceived inflexibility in
the structure of the scheme has been that supply chains are
starting to stutter, and I am told that many installers are
leaving the market. The Installation Assurance Authority warns
that there are now fewer than 10,000 people involved in the
industry and public-funded schemes, whereas there were 54,000 in
2012. Those who have moved away from ECO4 are reluctant to
return. If installers continue to leave the market at this rate,
it will make it very difficult not just to deliver ECO4, but to
achieve the level of home retrofitting required to meet our
future climate and fuel poverty targets.
If those issues are not addressed, thousands of eligible
households will miss out on crucial energy-saving measures,
meaning that they will face higher energy bills this winter and
beyond. I believe that the Department for Energy Security and Net
Zero is consulting on the deliverability of elements of ECO4. If
it intends to do so, I ask that they publish the consultation
before the summer recess in order to allow sufficient time ahead
of April 2024 for industry to adjust accordingly. A failure to do
so may mean that even more installers drop out of delivering the
scheme due to continued uncertainty.
It is not too late to get ECO4 back on track, and I would argue
that a consultation could play a key part in doing so, but I
would appreciate it if the Minister could explain what
consideration has been or will be given in a consultation to the
following points. Could ECO4’s cost assumptions be revised in
line with current supply costs to reflect current market
conditions? Could the eligibility of homes be widened to ensure
that more people can benefit from the scheme? That could include
increasing the number of fuel-poor households eligible in the
private and social rental sector, or it could mean enabling the
Flex channel to be more responsive to local needs in order to be
able to capture more fuel-poor households, such as those in
receipt of means-tested benefits or with health conditions.
Another suggestion is that we investigate the possibility of
extending the buy-out mechanism, so that others besides energy
suppliers can take on obligations, and enable local councils to
deliver ECO. Other suggestions are: making long-term funding
available for training, so that we can boost the supply chain,
and considering measures to boost recruitment and careers in the
retrofitting energy efficiency industry; ensuring continuous and
open engagement with installers, energy suppliers and other
industry and fuel poverty experts, to guarantee that the scheme
remains on the right track and to ensure that the UK Government
can respond effectively to any future issues that arise; and
finally, exploring the possibility of expanding the range of
technologies that will be considered in scope in future
iterations of ECO4 to, for example, water control technologies,
which can help bring down the cost of energy used to heat
water.
I will briefly touch on ECO+ or, as it is now known, the Great
British insulation scheme. I of course welcome the scheme, which
is designed to support households in installing single energy
efficiency measures in their homes, but again possible
adjustments could vastly improve delivery. Can the Minister say
what consideration has been given to refining the scheme’s
targeting, so that it better helps fuel-poor households? For the
majority of the scheme, households are expected to make a
financial contribution to the cost of the measures. That will
effectively make a large proportion of the scheme inaccessible to
the lowest-income households, which cannot afford to make those
contributions. In a cost of living crisis, when disposable income
is diminishing across the UK, surely the requirement for
contributions should be taken out of the scheme, or the
percentage of participants who are expected to make contributions
should to be lowered.
It would be remiss of me not to mention that I have heard from
constituents who were unfortunately let down by contractors
delivering measures under the ECO4 scheme. Of course, any
measures installed are now covered by the UK Government-endorsed
quality scheme, TrustMark. I appreciate that incidents of poor
delivery may be isolated examples, but in those worst-case
scenarios where delivery goes horribly wrong, the protection and
security for households is still inadequate.
I would be grateful if the Minister addressed the issue of
providers who place solar panels on agricultural land, but do not
guarantee against damage caused by animals. Obviously, placing
panels on agricultural land is very convenient, and it makes
access cheaper, although attention is not always paid to planning
requirements. However, the convenience may be outweighed by the
risk for the householder of damage caused by animals that is not
covered by a guarantee. I very much wish the Government to
address that rural issue.
I thank my right hon. Friend for raising another important point.
It perhaps illustrates the need to strengthen the accountability
of the scheme. In Ceredigion, households have had measures
installed that were of substandard quality, and they find it
almost impossible to get information about redress and holding
the installers to account for the sub-par work. Her concerns
would be captured by a broader effort to improve the scrutiny and
accountability of the scheme. Will the UK Government consider
ways of improving oversight of installations? We need a stronger
mechanism by which installers can be held to account.
Before closing, I will touch on the need to incentivise those who
are ineligible for the ECO scheme to invest in retrofitting—those
who might have the means to do so. A few measures come to mind.
First, could we look again at removing VAT from insulation
products, and not just from the installation of these products,
as well as from storage batteries? I appreciate that that might
be a Treasury matter. What work might the Government undertake on
providing interest-free loans to those who wish to install energy
efficiency and low-carbon heating measures? Providing access to
such support will be even more important in the face of steep
interest rate hikes.
Finally, I come to another area that deserves a brief mention in
a discussion on how we can help households to bring down energy
bills and expand our renewable capacity: incentivising households
to invest in smaller-scale renewables. I have been contacted by
several constituents who are concerned that the reduction in
support from the feed-in tariffs—and now their replacement, the
smart export guarantee—has vastly reduced the incentive to
invest. I urge the Government to consider increasing the tariffs
that the energy suppliers are required to offer to homeowners who
generate renewable energy. I draw my remarks to a close, and very
much look forward to the comments of my colleagues.
Several hon. Members rose—
(in the Chair)
I thank hon. Members for bobbing. If anyone else wishes to bob,
feel free. I intend to call the Front Benchers at approximately
half-past the hour.
2.55pm
(Bath) (LD)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Paisley. I
congratulate the hon. Member for Ceredigion () on bringing this important
debate to this place.
We are in the middle of a cost of living crisis. Bills are
soaring, wages are not keeping pace with inflation, and people
are struggling to make ends meet. We must not forget how harsh
last winter was. The energy price cap rose by 54% and many people
were trapped in cold, leaky homes. We cannot allow that to happen
again.
Households in poorly insulated homes will pay an estimated £13
billion a year more in energy bills. That is because the
Government have failed to bring those homes up to at least band C
of the energy performance certificate rating. Some 43,000 homes
in Bath have a poor efficiency rating, and the Government’s
inaction has meant that some of my constituents are more than
£1,300 poorer each year.
We are also in the middle of a climate emergency. The UK has some
of the leakiest homes in Europe. Insulating our homes would push
down energy demand and cut our country’s greenhouse gas
emissions. For the past decade, the energy company obligation
schemes have delivered warmer homes, cheaper bills and greener
buildings for millions of vulnerable households. The ECO4 scheme
is the latest iteration. It provides grants to fund
energy-efficient upgrades to homes, and pays for loft or cavity
wall insulation, new heating systems such as boilers, and other
measures designed to increase energy efficiency, as we have
already heard.
However, ECO4 installations are not keeping up with the target to
improve 450,000 homes by March 2026. The Energy Efficiency
Infrastructure Group has shown that, by March 2023, only 15,000
homes had been treated. That is just 3% of the overall delivery
target. That is very poor, and an example of the Government’s
inaction on delivering what has been promised.
The cost assumptions made in the ECO4 assessment are outdated and
unrealistic. The modelling used to set ECO4 targets was based on
estimated costs in 2021 prices, with an allowance for general
inflation over time. Since that assessment was made, inflation
has soared. December 2022 saw inflation having risen by 9.2% in
the previous 12 months. That is more than three times what Ofgem
projected it to be.
The costs of delivery far exceed what Ofgem has accounted for.
Loft insulation is, on average, 430% more expensive, cavity wall
insulation is 372% more expensive, and external wall insulation
is 147% more expensive. The Government should ensure that those
costs are taken into account and must match the cost of measures
in ECO4 with inflation. That is the main point that I wanted to
make; the 2021 estimates do not take into account the soaring
inflation that we have seen over the past year.
The ECO4 criteria restrict the number of homes that can be
improved. The eligibility requirements set out that the homes
must be improved by at least two EPC bands, which makes it hard
to find suitable homes. Energy Efficiency Infrastructure Group
members estimate that 90% of qualifying homes miss out because
they are unable to meet the minimum requirements of the scheme.
To illustrate my point, E.ON attempted to deliver
energy-efficiency measures to a three-bed mid-terrace property in
Dagenham. The owners of the property qualified for ECO4 as their
home was rated EPC band E and they were living in fuel poverty.
The package of measures that E.ON proposed would have saved the
family about £600 a year on their energy bill, but the
installation was rejected because the measures would not improve
the house enough to make it jump two EPC bands.
When it comes to tackling the climate and cost of living crises,
every little helps, so why is the ECO4 scheme making perfection
the enemy of the good? The Government should relax the minimum
requirements when all reasonable measures have been installed in
an eligible household. That would ensure that vulnerable
households could still receive much-needed support. To tackle the
cost of living and climate crises, we must improve the energy
efficiency of our homes. We must do all that we can to ensure
that the ECO scheme benefits as many people as possible, as soon
as possible.
(Glasgow Central)
(SNP)
The hon. Lady is making some excellent points. I am sure that in
her constituency, as in mine, there are many older properties
that are very difficult to convert. Does she agree that more
needs to be done to ensure that those households can access the
scheme, because it is harder for them to convert their house?
Absolutely; I could not agree more. In Bath, we have a lot of
old, leaky homes. They are very beautiful, but they are not
particularly energy efficient. People really want to do
something, but ECO4 does not work for a very large number of
households. If we really want to help vulnerable people and
tackle the climate emergency, we must look at how the scheme has
been designed and make some improvements to it. The two-jump
requirement is particularly difficult in old properties.
The Government must take urgent action and improve ECO4, in order
to protect the most vulnerable from cold winters and tackle the
climate emergency as soon and as effectively as possible.
3.02pm
(Strangford) (DUP)
It is a pleasure to speak in this debate and serve under your
chairmanship, Mr Paisley; I have done so in the past, and
hopefully I will do so again in the future. I congratulate the
hon. Member for Ceredigion () on his passion for this issue.
His dulcet Welsh tones seem to flow, unlike my Ulster Scots
accent, which does not come anywhere near his. Like him, I have a
number of park homes in my constituency that have lacked support
during this great energy crisis. He has spoken about this issue
in the Chamber, including in an Adjournment debate; he has been
very much at the forefront of raising it, and I thank him for
that.
I read with interest that Ofgem stated at the end of March that
the Great British insulation scheme, which was previously
referred to and consulted on by the Department for Energy
Security and Net Zero under the name ECO+, will allow early
delivery from 30 March 2023, and will run until 31 March 2026. On
5 April, Ofgem published a consultation, through which it sought
stakeholder views on its proposed administration of the policies
set out by the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero and
included in the Electricity and Gas (Energy Company Obligation)
Order 2023. The consultation covered areas where Ofgem exercised
its discretion in administering the new legislative provisions
for ECO4, and proposed further improvements to current
policies.
That is where we are. That is why the hon. Gentleman raised this
issue, and why it is important that we understand it better. We
look to the Minister for a positive response, and I look forward
to the contributions from the two shadow spokespeople. The hon.
Member for Bristol East () has a deep understanding of
these issues and brings her knowledge and interest to the
debate.
We have seen the havoc wreaked by protesters, who have destroyed
pieces of art, and caused disruption on motorways, to the extent
that ambulances have been stuck, and people have missed
operations and work. The discussion about insulation and
necessary improvements has been lost in the wanton disruption
caused by people who have a sound message—that is not in
doubt—but whose methods do not encourage debate. Instead, they
encourage righteous indignation and, in some cases, anger. That
is why I am grateful to the hon. Member for Ceredigion for
bringing the discussion back to where it needs to be—in this
House, in Westminster Hall. Here, we can do our jobs and advocate
for the change that the protesters want, but in the right way. I
commend the hon. Member for that.
I read the hon. Member’s piece in Politico last year. His words
are worth repeating, so I will quote them. I am not trying to
embarrass him, but his words were very salient:
“We know that households in the least efficient properties have
energy bills that are twice the cost of the most efficient homes.
There is a statutory target to upgrade the energy efficiency of
all fuel-poor households to EPC C by 2030 and all households to
EPC C by 2035. Government needs to ensure that it follows through
with its existing commitments. Ensuring the ECO 4 legislation is
prioritised in Parliament to maintain installation rates, making
swift decisions on minimum energy efficiency standards in the
rented sectors and meeting its manifesto commitment to spend £2.5
billion on the Home Upgrade Grant this Parliament.”
Those words are even more relevant today, and I commend him for
that. Each of us fully supports him. It also shows that we read
the magazine—some people wonder whether we do. I look through it
to see whether I know any of the authors, and I always catch up
on it.
I support the hon. Member’s efforts to hold the Government to
account on this issue, to the betterment of all. I always like to
give an example from back home. My parliamentary aide bought a
property that had been lying vacant for years. It had no heating
and needed a total refurb, which was reflected in the price. When
she looked into insulating that property, she could not afford to
do it as well as all the other work—the new flooring, new
kitchen, and new bathroom, and the work on the heating, the
garden, and the front. There was lots of work to do. She is a
clever girl—she writes all my speeches and interventions, so
people must know that she is exceptionally clever and busy. She
knows that in the long run the insulation will save money, but
given the demands on the joint wages of her and her husband, and
given that she is raising two children, with only child benefit
to help, I understand why she made that choice. It would have
been better to do the insulation, but people’s money does not
stretch that far. That is why this debate is so important. The
scheme gives a wee bit of a helping hand, and nudges and assists
people.
We need to help more people like my parliamentary aide to do the
right thing—people who get little or no help from the system as a
rule, and who work extremely hard. We are talking about people
who are environmentally conscious; she washes out her yoghurt
pots at 11 pm at night after writing a speech for me. People want
to do the right thing by the environment. I support them. We must
do the same. I look to the Government and the Minister here; they
can start by fulfilling their obligations, and can move on from
there.
I know that the Minister is listening. I hope that we can have a
positive answer, and that she will reinforce the fact that I do
not need to throw orange powder around the streets, or over the
Minister or my colleagues, to make my point. Orange is a good
colour, Mr Paisley—you know that—but I still would not do that.
My point is that insulation makes sense. We all agree that those
who highlight the issues may use different methods—in this House,
we use dialogue and communication—but they are trying to make
change. Let us get buy-in from the average person, who his making
sacrifices, and prove that we are in it with them. I am here on
behalf of my constituents. The hon. Member for Ceredigion, and
everyone who has spoken and will speak, is here to do the same
thing. We can do it, but we need the Minister’s help to get over
the line.
3.09pm
(Westmorland and Lonsdale) (LD)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Paisley. I
congratulate the hon. Member for Ceredigion () on securing the debate and
making an excellent and detailed opening speech. I also pay
tribute to the other contributors, who have spoken well on a
really important subject. I am indebted to Cumbria Action for
Sustainability for its work in helping to bring homes up to an
adequate standard to ensure energy efficiency and lower heating
prices, as well as to tackle the climate emergency.
It is estimated that our homes—the ones that we live
in—contribute something like 19% of the greenhouse gases emitted
by the United Kingdom. In the last two years especially, there
have been crushing increases in fuel poverty. Families who may
have considered themselves comfortable a couple of years ago now
find themselves in dire straits. Mortgage payments and rents are
rising, as is the cost of living in general, but the huge
increase in fuel and energy costs in the last couple of years has
rendered many in a situation where they cannot see where to
turn.
The need for a scheme that delivers warmer, greener and
cheaper-to-run homes has never been greater, yet the number of UK
energy efficiency installations peaked at 2.3 million in 2012. In
the decade that followed, we got down to a miserable 100,000 a
year. The Government’s much-vaunted green homes grant, which was
meant to deliver energy efficiency for 1 million homes, in the
end did so for only 60,000. ECO4 can and must do much better.
In Cumbria, we face specific problems that make our challenge
much greater. We have a much larger proportion of solid-wall
properties, of off-grid homes and of homes that are listed or in
conservation areas. There are lots of positive things to say
about ECO4, including, fundamentally, about its ambition of
raising energy performance certificate points and its
fabric-first policy—the aim to ensure that insulation happens
before the installation of new and hopefully better heat sources.
Those things are positive in principle, but in practice they are
not entirely being followed. Households in Cumbria—especially
those that can least afford it—are suffering because the detail
is not being got right.
The funds provided to those installing insulation do not meet the
costs, especially for single-wall properties. As we have heard,
on average there has been a 77% increase in the cost of
materials. Insulation is not happening because companies simply
cannot afford to do it, and it is much more expensive to do the
work on single-wall properties, which need it most. Insulating a
single-wall property entails the further risk that moisture will
build up between the wall and the insulating layer. That can lead
to the build-up of mould and have a huge impact on human health
and building quality in the months and years that follow.
I am told by the people who advise me on such matters that there
are answers to that. Cork board or timber fibreboard can be used,
as can insulating lime render, which is especially suitable for
Lakeland properties in terms of its aesthetics as well as its
efficacy. Frustratingly, however, none of those materials are
available through the ECO4 scheme, which goes to explain why a
relatively small number of people will take advantage of it.
ECO4 is a more complex scheme, as the hon. Member for Ceredigion
rightly pointed out. There are many good reasons why, but one of
the consequences is that the energy companies and local
authorities have been reluctant to engage as providers. That
means that the only people providing work through ECO4 will be
independent and private providers, some of whom will be very good
but some of whom will not. Private householders, almost certainly
including the likes of me, are not always the best judge of which
is which. That will have an impact on the quality of the work,
and on whether taxpayers’ money is spent wisely. For that reason,
while Cumbrian contractors have been used to deliver some of the
work, Cumbria Action for Sustainability tells us that there have
been no Cumbria-based companies offering ECO4 measures.
I mentioned listed properties and those in conservation areas.
Residents of Westmorland living in such properties tell us that,
when they explain that their home is listed or in a conservation
area, suppliers almost instantly—and very politely, I hope—tell
them that they are not interested, because there is no way they
can make it add up and make the scheme pay.
Fuel poverty among residents of private rented properties, as has
already been mentioned, is the worst of all in a community like
mine. The average income in my constituency is about one twelfth
of the average house price. We have a council house waiting list
of 5,000 or 6,000. We have an inadequate quantity of affordable
housing. The only way there is any workforce of a working age
available in my constituency is because of the private rented
sector, and let us say that there is a mix in its quality.
Cumbria Action for Sustainability is unaware of a single private
landlord in Cumbria who has pursued ECO4, as things stand.
Insulation, and the warmth and energy efficiency of any property,
stands and falls on the property’s windows. Of course, ECO4
allows for funds to replace single glazing, but it will not allow
funds to replace double glazing, even if it is 50 years old, past
its use-by date, cracked and faulty. That appears to be a blind
spot, which I hope we will act on quickly.
We have heard that ECO4 does not cover the real costs of
insulation, especially in single-wall properties. That is
especially so for floor insulation above garages, where there are
rightly fire safety requirements, making the work more expensive.
Where the scheme does not cover costs, measures are not taken,
and the people who suffer are those who are left with a home that
is too expensive to heat.
Cumbria Action for Sustainability and providers point out that a
major reason that the green homes grant failed was the lack of
skilled workers to carry out, in particular, the work needed for
solid-wall housing. The situation is no better now. Retrofitting,
for example, still does not feature in most relevant training
schemes.
ECO4 is, in principle, better than its predecessors but, if it
does not work in practice, people in Cumbria and elsewhere in our
country will suffer. I will argue that ours is the most beautiful
bit of the country, though it is often the coldest and the
wettest, too. There are extremes of wealth and poverty, and it is
hard for many of my constituents to cope with the financial costs
and deprivations that go with that. More than a third of our
housing stock is single-wall properties. Cumbria needs the
Government to get ECO4 right. I hope they will hear the practical
and constructive suggestions made by colleagues on all sides in
this debate, and act accordingly.
3.18pm
(Coatbridge, Chryston and
Bellshill) (SNP)
It is nice to see you in the Chair, Mr Paisley. I commend the
hon. Member for Ceredigion () for securing and leading the
debate.
There are two issues that require immediate attention and
decisive action: the soaring cost of living crisis and the
importance of energy efficiency support. In the light of that, it
is deeply concerning that, while we face those crises, the
Government choose to cut taxes on bankers. Such a decision is
abhorrent, especially when it is ordinary citizens who bear the
brunt of an escalating cost of living crisis, much of that due to
rising energy costs.
Inflation continues to hit those on the lowest incomes most
severely, exacerbating their ongoing struggle to make ends meet.
The Prime Minister pledged to cut inflation by half. However, it
is evident that the Government are struggling to meet that
pledge, and now aim to reduce public sector pay to compensate. We
learned today that the leader of the Labour party, the right hon.
and learned Member for Holborn and St Pancras (), also refused to back public
sector pay rises. That is a misguided approach, in our opinion,
that will only further burden those who are already
struggling.
Research by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation paints a distressing
picture, revealing that 7 million households have gone without
essentials, such as food, heating or basic toiletries, due to the
cost of living crisis. It is our responsibility to provide
support and relief to those individuals and families who are
enduring such hardships. Considering all those other parts that
play into the crisis, it is vital that we do not withdraw or
cancel energy efficiency support for those in need.
Energy efficiency measures such as ECO4 and ECO+ play a crucial
role in achieving our net zero targets and combating climate
change. In 2019, a report from the Business, Energy and
Industrial Strategy Committee praised the Scottish Government for
being leagues ahead of the UK Government on energy efficiency,
and we continue to deliver on that front. Our planet is facing
unprecedented challenges, with soaring sea temperatures, and
action is urgent. It was disheartening that a previous BEIS
Secretary and disgraced former Prime Minister blocked plans for a public
information campaign on energy efficiency. How much could
consumers have saved if they had received the necessary
information and support? Many of our constituents do not know
that help and support is out there in the form of these
schemes.
The Scottish Government have taken proactive steps towards energy
efficiency and are committed to investing at least £1.8 billion
in heat and energy efficiency over the course of this Scottish
Parliament. Through existing programmes, we have already
supported over 150,000 households in or at risk of fuel poverty,
including those in rural and island communities. Our Home Energy
Scotland grant and loan scheme offers grant funding of up to
£7,500 for heat pumps, with an additional £7,500 made available
as an optional interest-free loan. Moreover, we have provided an
uplift of £1,500 to both the heat pump and energy efficiency
grants for rural and island homes, recognising the specific
challenges faced by those communities.
Beyond immediate measures, we must recognise the urgent need to
change the way we use our energy. As oil and gas production
naturally declines, there is a tremendous opportunity for growth
in low-carbon energy production. It is projected that low-carbon
energy jobs could increase to 77,000 by 2050, delivering an
increase of 7,000 jobs across the energy production sector. The
Scottish Government’s draft energy strategy and just transition
plan outlines the actions necessary for the UK Government to
collaborate with us to achieve Scotland’s full energy potential.
To facilitate that transition, the Scottish Government, led by
the SNP, are already investing in the sector’s net zero
transformation.
Our expanded £75 million energy transition fund and £100 million
green jobs fund, alongside the £500 million just transition fund,
will support regions such as the north-east and Moray in becoming
centres of excellence for a just transition to a net zero
economy. That stands in stark contrast to other parties, which
have historically bled the north-east of Scotland dry and left
the region on the proverbial scrap heap.
Renewable energy presents a significant economic opportunity for
Scotland. The just energy transition will deliver a net gain in
jobs across the energy production sector. The Scottish Government
have taken decisive action, but we are constrained by the
limitations imposed by Westminster’s grip on the purse strings.
It is time for the UK Government to recognise that and the
importance of energy efficiency, collaborate with us and our
colleagues in the Scottish Government, and provide the necessary
support to achieve our shared goals.
3.23pm
(Bristol East) (Lab)
It is a pleasure, as always, to see you in the Chair, Mr Paisley.
I congratulate the hon. Member for Ceredigion () on securing the debate.
We have heard from all Members who have spoken how important it
is for the Government to look at the complexities of this issue.
I represent a predominately urban constituency and, by and large,
the other Members we have heard from represent rural
constituencies. Each area will have different problems depending
on its housing stock, the availability of skills and so on, but
it is the Government’s job to try to iron those problems out.
That is why it is important that we are having this debate so
that people can put on the record some of the issues they have
found.
Let me start with the broadbrush issues with retrofitting.
Members have set out well that the crisis of rising energy bills
has brought home to people how much energy they lose through
having poorly insulated homes—energy is literally going through
the roof—and how we could reduce not only bills, but our
emissions if we had homes that met the EPC C standard.
I would say that this is about retrofitting existing homes, but
the Government had a pledge to introduce zero-carbon new homes
and then dropped it. Estimates suggest that well over a million
homes have been built since then that do not meet the EPC C
standard. Given that we face such a massive task in retrofitting
existing housing stock, it seems ludicrous that we do not insist
that new builds meet a certain standard, because we will need to
retrofit them not too far down the line.
I have just come from the Energy Bill Committee, where we were
talking about how we ensure that we have the skills for a just
transition. This work tends to be carried out by small and
medium-sized enterprises and sole traders—it is not as though
there is one big company that will deliver it—and they need
certainty that this is a line of work in which there will be jobs
for the foreseeable future. With schemes stopping and starting as
they have in the past—there was lack of consumer confidence
because of the way some earlier schemes floundered—people will
not move into those jobs, particularly given the shortages of
construction workers, plumbers and electricians. It can be
difficult to get people to do even the traditional jobs, let
alone move into this area. We must address that to create
stability.
The need for consumer advice was mentioned, and I just mentioned
consumer confidence. Previous experience shows us that that is
really important. This is about going into people’s homes,
uprooting their domestic lives and putting them at risk of having
to pay a lot of money. Under earlier schemes, cowboy operators
did not do work to the expected standard and people were suddenly
told that they needed extra—
It seems evident to me that, since many of the people who will
qualify for support through these schemes will be vulnerable,
unless protections are built in for them, they may not be able to
deal with it when work is not done to the expected standard,
which is what we will hear about as MPs. I would have expected
the Government to build that into the schemes in the first
instance because of the nature of the people they are trying to
support.
That is very much the case. I have been in this place for 18
years. Earlier in my career, I saw in my casework people who had
been ripped off really struggling to deal with the bureaucracy of
whether they would be able to get public funding and whether they
had to pay the people who were literally on their doorstep asking
for money.
Turning to where we are now, the ECO scheme was well intentioned
and welcome, but it is not working. At the moment, the UK has the
least energy-efficient housing in Europe and home insulation
rates have plummeted. Many statistics have been bandied around.
My numbers are slightly different and relate to a different time
period. In 2013, the coalition cut energy efficiency programmes;
in the same year, insulation rates fell by 92%. That is what I go
back to—the period when the market crashed, setting us back about
a decade to where we are now. Last year, only 159,699 ECO
measures were installed in low-income and fuel-poor homes, a
reduction of 59% from the 393,706 in 2021.
There is a substantial gap between Government insulation targets
and delivery where ECO4 is concerned. Analysis from E.ON Energy
suggests that, as of December 2022, the industry had completed
around 11% of the obligation, compared with an expected 19%. We
estimate that at the same point during the ECO3 scheme, the
industry had completed 29%. That delay will have consequences. A
report from the World Wide Fund for Nature and ScottishPower
warns that the Government are on track to insulate just one sixth
of the homes needed to meet their target of reducing energy
consumption by 15% by 2030.
I have spoken to people from various businesses in the retrofit
industry, and they fear that the same mistakes are being made.
Nigel Donohue, chief executive of the Installation Assurance
Authority, said the transition to ECO4 was
“really poorly managed…despite conversations with the Government
about not allowing this to happen to the industry again”.
There is no getting away from the fact that the scheme is really
struggling.
There are two major issues delaying delivery. The first is
limitations on scoring. Aeon estimates that up to 90% of the
properties eligible for ECO4 will not receive the support they
desperately need because those homes do not meet the minimum
improvement requirements. The goalposts that must be cleared for
properties to meet the SAP score are being moved, so vulnerable,
fuel-poor households have been ruled ineligible and are missing
out.
The second issue is costs. Funding assumptions under ECO4 are
significantly lower than actual installation costs, and rising
inflation has led to costs in the supply chain escalating even
further. With current inflation rates and the skill shortages,
those costs are likely to be increasing incrementally, almost by
the week. I am not convinced that the Government have taken that
into account. Delivering loft insulation, for example, is
currently 430% more expensive than the Government estimate, while
cavity wall insulation is 372% more expensive. These are clearly
not small discrepancies, and they have to be recognised in the
ECO4 scheme.
The Department for Energy Security and Net Zero acknowledged the
increased costs when consulting on the ECO+ scheme back in
December, but ECO4 has not been aligned. There is also the
problem I mentioned of the gaps between schemes causing confusion
and a drop in uptake. There was a four-month gap before ECO4, and
I think at one point prior to that there was an 18-month gap
between schemes, which I am told had a major impact on the skills
front. We cannot allow the same to happen with ECO+. Continuity
is needed.
I have also spoken to a housing association boss who says that he
thinks the schemes are working okay generally, but that
timescales and bureaucracy are a big problem. Low levels of
contribution to band D homes means that installers and energy
companies are less likely to take them on. He would like a focus
on ensuring that installers are compliant with publicly available
specifications, PAS, in the long term, so that people trust
retrofitting more, but at the moment the process is very
bureaucratic. He cites a case where a 115-page form was needed to
fit loft insulation that took only an hour to install. I do not
know how long it takes to fill out a 115-page form, but I would
imagine that it was considerably longer than one hour. He also
said that with schemes such as the home upgrade grant, the focus
on specific measures, rather than letting retrofitting
co-ordinators decide what is best, sometimes means that they
cannot offer support for some houses.
It would be remiss of me not to mention how well Bristol is doing
at retrofitting homes through its City Leap programme. The 3Ci
website has a really good account of what we are doing. One of
our ambitions, for example, is to get all social housing up to
EPC C by 2030, which involves an innovative arrangement with
private sector finance. Under our green prosperity plan, Labour
is committed to spending £6 billion a year to retrofit 19 million
homes to EPC C within a decade, saving families an average of
£1,000 a year on their energy bills, creating over 206,000 new
full-time equivalent jobs, and cutting national gas imports by up
to 15%. I hope that we will be ready to start work on that in
just over a year’s time, or whenever the election is called, but
it would be good if the current Government addressed some of the
underlying issues, particularly the skills gap, ensured
continuity of supply, and listened to what Members have said
today, so that we are ready to hit the ground running. Even if we
do not win the next election, I am sure the Minister would hope
to get things in a better place so that we can steam ahead with
this programme.
3.33pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Energy Security
and Net Zero ()
It is a great pleasure to be serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Paisley. I congratulate the hon. Member for Ceredigion () on securing this incredibly
important debate and thank all those who have contributed. As you
may know, Mr Paisley, this issue is not in my portfolio; however,
I am here to represent the Government and to take away any
questions that I am unable to answer today.
I welcome all Members’ contributions; they really have been
incredibly helpful. I thank everyone, particularly the hon.
Member for Ceredigion, for the suggestions they made throughout
the debate. One of the things that we really need to apply within
all of this activity is common sense, and a lot of the
suggestions that I have heard today have been based on common
sense.
Although they are not relevant to this debate, I will also talk
about the energy costs that really play on my mind as the
Minister with responsibility for consumers and affordability.
Clearly, there are many schemes that I could go into, although,
as I say, they are not relevant. I will just say what many hon.
Members have already said, which is that we must encourage all
consumers to make sure that they get all of their benefits. I
thank the hon. Gentleman for raising that issue; as Members of
Parliament, we should always encourage people to do that.
The energy company obligation is the Government’s most successful
domestic energy efficiency scheme in Great Britain. It obliges
larger energy suppliers to deliver bill savings for households by
installing energy efficiency measures. Since it began in 2013, it
has delivered 3.6 million measures in more than 2.4 million
properties, which means that over 9% of British households have
had an ECO measure installed. Low-income and vulnerable
households will save over £19 billion on their bills over the
lifetime of the measures that have been installed. As the hon.
Gentleman may know, over 17% of households in his constituency
have received ECO measures over the last decade.
ECO4 was introduced last year and runs until March 2026. It has
continued to support low-income and vulnerable households while
also increasing the focus on the least energy-efficient
properties and on fuel poverty. To be eligible for it, households
either have to be in receipt of means-tested benefits, live in
social housing or be referred by their local authority or energy
supplier. For the first time, part of the overall target has been
met by upgrading the equivalent of 150,000 of the
worst-performing homes, with those living in homes with energy
performance certificate ratings of E, F or G the most likely to
be in the deepest fuel poverty. Also for the first time, we set a
minimum requirement for energy efficiency improvements, depending
on a home’s energy efficiency rating. This means that more of the
households receiving help will be brought out of fuel poverty
permanently. We estimate that at current energy prices,
households benefiting from ECO4 will reduce their annual energy
bills by over £600 on average.
Delivery under ECO4 commenced last April, with around 130,000
measures delivered to over 43,000 low-income households. The
scheme data shows a gradual increase in delivery, and recent
reporting from the supply chain indicates that delivery has
continued to increase through May and June.
I am sure that the hon. Member for Ceredigion will be delighted
to hear that Ceredigion continues to benefit disproportionately
from ECO4; over 1% of all measures installed under ECO4 have been
in his constituency. This success is partly due to the explicit
incentive within the scheme to treat off-grid rural homes in
Wales and Scotland, and it is also thanks to the ECO Flex
provision, which allows up to 50% of the overall obligation to be
met by treating homes that have been referred by a local
authority or a devolved Administration. Ceredigion is one of the
leaders in that part of the scheme.
Nevertheless, I assure the House that we are not complacent. We
continue to monitor delivery closely, working with local
authorities, energy suppliers and devolved Administrations to
share best practice about ECO Flex and to remove administrative
barriers where possible. Ofgem has recently republished guidance
that should make the ECO Flex process easier, and, as has been
mentioned, we are considering how the whole scheme can be
amended. We recognise that costs have increased since we
developed ECO4 and that, as the hon. Gentleman explained, meeting
the minimum improvement requirement in certain homes is
challenging. We are considering whether changes to the policy are
desirable and analysing the potential impact of such changes. For
example, we will need to examine the consequences of relaxing the
minimum requirement for our fuel poverty targets, given the
imperative of proofing homes to band C. Making changes to ECO4
will require a public consultation and amendments to affirmative
regulations, so any changes we decide to make will be well
informed by external stakeholders.
On the hon. Gentleman’s point about expanding the list of
technologies, the primary legislation that enables ECO4 and GBIS
limits technologies to those that reduce space heating costs.
While we are open to expanding the eligible technologies in the
future, that would require a change in primary powers. Beyond
ECO4, and in response to persistently high energy prices, we have
extended the help available through a new eco energy efficiency
scheme: the Great British insulation scheme, which many Members
mentioned. Previously consulted on as ECO+, it will boost support
for those on the lowest incomes and the most vulnerable, and
extend help to a wider pool of households who are also challenged
by high energy bills.
ECO4 and the Great British insulation scheme are a major
expansion of the Government’s action on energy efficiency. The
predecessor ECO3 scheme was worth £640 million annually, and
total ECO funding has now reached £1.3 billion per year to March
2026. We estimate that by April 2026, the GB insulation scheme
will have delivered about 376,000 measures to about 300,000
households, helping households to cut heating bills by an average
of £300 to £400 per year.
These schemes also create continuity for the supply chain. To
further facilitate supply chain growth, the Government have
increased funding for training schemes, as many Members
mentioned. The Department’s £9.2 million home decarbonisation
skills training competition, launched in September 2022, has
awarded grant funding to 19 training providers in England to
deliver subsidised training in the energy efficiency, building
retrofit and low-carbon heating sectors. That training will
deliver an estimated 9,000 training opportunities to the building
retrofit, energy efficiency and heat pump sectors through to
summer 2023. That includes accredited training to qualify
standard installers and retrofit co-ordinators.
Alongside the energy efficiency upgrades we are making through
the Great British insulation scheme and ECO4, the Government are
investing £6.6 billion over this Parliament in clean heat and
energy efficiency, reducing our reliance on fossil fuel heating.
In addition, £6 billion of new Government funding will be made
available from 2025 to 2028. We have heard it said that consumers
are at the heart of everything we do, and I give my assurance
that one of the things we are doing is reaching out to
stakeholders. Hon. Members have also mentioned places such as
citizens advice bureaux. Clearly it is important that we talk to
people about the cost of living but also what we are doing in our
ongoing support.
The Government investment I have listed, as well as specific
investment in building a market for green finance, means that a
range of green financing options are already available from high
street lenders to owner-occupiers and private landlords. They
include things such as green mortgages and additional borrowing
facilities, or cashback offers to homeowners undertaking energy
retrofit. Some energy suppliers also offer 0% finance for certain
energy efficiency products. Improving the energy efficiency of
our homes is the best long-term solution to reducing energy bills
and tackling fuel poverty. ECO4 and the GB insulation scheme will
support that, while also helping to protect our nation’s energy
and support our net zero target.
A comparative assessment of cost assumptions for the ECO4 scheme
and those set out in the Great British insulation scheme
consultation has also been talked about. We are monitoring ECO4
delivery against the current cost assumptions, and we will
consider changes if necessary. Changing the cost assumptions may
require a change to the overall energy bill reduction target, to
the estimated funding, to policy details of the scheme, or a
combination of all three. Such changes will require public
consultation and regulatory change.
There are many more areas that I could discuss, but I will end by
thanking the hon. Member for Ceredigion again for securing this
important debate. I look forward to continuing to engage with him
and all ECO stakeholders to ensure that the schemes continue to
help fuel-poor households, support jobs and deliver value for
consumers.
3.45pm
I thank all those who have contributed to the debate; it has been
very detailed and useful. As well as some of the practical
concerns and challenges, we have discussed some of the broader
and deeper tensions within various aspects of the policy, and how
changes to one aspect might have a detrimental or unintended
impact on another.
I am grateful to all colleagues. I thank the hon. Members for
Bath (), for Strangford () and for Westmorland and Lonsdale (), who made speeches. I also thank the hon. Member for
Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill (), the hon. Member for
Bristol East () and the Minister, as well
as those who made interventions. It has been a good debate with a
consensus that this objective is very important, and the policy
will deliver a great deal of good for households as they face
ever-increasing pressures on their finances.
I have the last word, as it were. I will use it to say that I am
pleased that the Government are monitoring the situation,
particularly the cost assumptions. That will be broadly welcomed
by those who are responsible for installing some of these
measures.
Question put and agreed to.
Resolved,
That this House has considered the implementation of ECO4 and
ECO+
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