Moved by Lord Hollick That this House takes note of the Report from
the Industry and Regulators Committee The net zero transformation:
delivery, regulation and the consumer (1st Report, Session 2021-22,
HL Paper 162). Lord Hollick (Lab) My Lords, I am pleased to
introduce this debate. I thank our team, Matthew Manning, Holly
Woodhead, Dominic Cooper and Itu Osupeng, for their valuable
contribution to the work. Our work started 18 months ago and our
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That this House takes note of the Report from the Industry and
Regulators Committee The net zero transformation: delivery,
regulation and the consumer (1st Report, Session 2021-22, HL
Paper 162).
(Lab)
My Lords, I am pleased to introduce this debate. I thank our
team, Matthew Manning, Holly Woodhead, Dominic Cooper and Itu
Osupeng, for their valuable contribution to the work.
Our work started 18 months ago and our report was published a
year ago, just as Russia invaded Ukraine, sparking an energy
bills crisis and showing what can happen when a country chooses
to weaponise its energy exports. The impact of that invasion on
energy security and prices strengthens the need to accelerate the
transformation to a net-zero energy system that increases
domestic production and reduces our reliance on importing fossil
fuels from authoritarian countries. It will also lead to a
material reduction in our ongoing energy costs.
The Government have set out a number of ambitious targets,
including achieving net zero by 2050 and a decarbonised energy
system by 2035, which will require a wholesale transformation of
our entire energy system. The Climate Change Committee told us
that, to achieve these targets, the level of investment will need
to increase from £10 billion a year in 2020 to £50 billion a year
from 2030 to 2050. Funding the cost of meeting these targets will
rely heavily on the appetite of pension funds, overseas
investors, the private sector and individuals to invest, and that
depends on the Government putting in place policies to encourage
and provide certainty for businesses to make these
investments.
We asked the Government to set out a road map to deliver the
energy mix they envisage for meeting their targets in a secure
way, including setting out the funding structures and business
models they aim to rely on. We called for clarity from them on
the business model for hydrogen and its role in heating; business
models for carbon capture and storage, long-duration storage
technologies and small modular reactors; funding to support the
energy efficiency of homes and the installation of heat pumps;
and a review of the infrastructure challenges to deploying
offshore wind. Given the potential for technology to develop in
unforeseeable ways, this road map needs to be dynamic and
adaptable.
We were told that gas will be needed as an energy source up to
2050. We asked the Government to explain the role they intend for
gas in the future energy system, including from our own domestic
resources. In their response, they promised a range of
initiatives and guidance in 2022, few of which have materialised.
We wrote to the Secretary of State in December requesting an
update on the progress on 14 of those initiatives, to be provided
in time for consideration in today’s debate. Unfortunately, Davos
intervened and delayed the response until next week, but the
evidence to hand shows that delivery is taking place at a snail’s
pace—and this against a background of long lead times to build
critical elements of the new energy system. Offshore wind
infrastructure can take up to nine years and nuclear power
stations can take 15 years or longer.
Then, there is the big question: who pays for the huge upfront
capital cost of the transformation in order to provide certainty
for businesses and households to budget? Currently, much
investment in decarbonising the energy system is funded through
charges on bills, including the costs of upgrading the grid and
building new nuclear power stations. This funding is regressive,
bearing down most heavily on those households that are least able
to pay. We urged the Government to consider the full range of
funding options, including the UK Infrastructure Bank, the
British Business Bank, carbon pricing, co-investment, investment
subsidies, investment tax relief and contracts for difference. We
called on the Government to reconsider their opposition to the
use of government borrowing, given its suitability for financing
investments with high upfront costs that are to be followed by
attractive returns over the following decades.
We found that the scale of the transformation requires urgent
action across the economy and across a range of government
departments and public bodies, including regulators. Currently,
there is insufficient focus and co-ordination, as well as an
absence of decisive leadership in government. We proposed
creating an expert task force, following the example of the
Vaccine Taskforce, that could take responsibility for strategic
planning, departmental co-ordination and the monitoring of
delivery by all government departments, agencies and business
partners; the USA recently appointed a net-zero tsar to a similar
role. We believe that this approach avoids unnecessary
bureaucracy and provides the decisive leadership to deliver in a
rapidly changing environment. The task force will need to address
politically sensitive matters, including public spending
commitments, so it must be at the heart of government and report
directly to the Prime Minister.
Ofgem, the energy regulator, has an important role to play
through its regulation of energy networks and suppliers and, of
course, in setting prices for customers. Witnesses told us that
Ofgem was overly cautious and slow to approve investments to make
the energy system ready for the transformation. We therefore
recommend that Ofgem’s duties be amended to include explicit
reference to the Government’s net-zero target.
Ofgem must satisfy three main objectives of energy policy:
keeping bills affordable, maintaining the security of supply and
decarbonisation. Finding a balance between these three sometimes
contradictory objectives comes down to questions of priorities
and trade-offs that only a Government can decide. Since 2014, the
Government have repeatedly promised, but so far failed to
deliver, a strategy and policy statement to provide strategic
guidance to Ofgem. Earlier this week, the Minister told us that
it was “upcoming”, but when will it come?
The Government and Ofgem have the responsibility to inform and
provide incentives to the public about the changes that they must
make to their domestic energy systems. Consumers will want to
spread the high upfront costs of heat pumps, for example, on a
long-term contract basis, similar to mobile phone contracts.
Electric vehicle batteries and other domestic appliances can be
set automatically to operate when electricity is at its cheapest.
The provision of these new products should form part of the drive
to bring about greater competition between energy suppliers to
provide added services.
Ofgem’s recent calamitous attempt to introduce competition
between suppliers to promote switching has landed a surcharge on
all customers to cover the liabilities, now estimated at £3
billion, of the failed new entrants. Fresh from that debacle,
Ofgem has recognised the need to add financial and operational
oversight to its regulatory duties, but its regulation must
become more flexible to allow innovative products and services
into the market. These products will help customers to reduce
their energy demand, retrofit their homes—which could reduce
energy usage by up to 20%—and introduce low-carbon heating,
requiring financial support from the Government. Government needs
to take the lead and clearly set out what it expects of the
public and energy suppliers and what financial support it will
provide to help to pay for the necessary changes and investment
in our homes.
The Mission Zero review, chaired by former government Minister
, was published a week ago.
It echoes many of our conclusions, including the urgent need for
the Government to develop and publish an overarching net-zero
delivery and financial strategy and to establish an office for
net-zero delivery. calls net zero
“the economic opportunity of the 21st century”
and proposes 129 recommendations to turbocharge the nation’s
climate action. More than half of these recommendations need to
be acted on this year. He notes that the UK Government are
“not matching world-leading ambition with world-leading
delivery”,
and we agree.
The US, China and the EU are investing heavily in net-zero
technology and manufacturing. By contrast, our Government have
yet to produce their net-zero industrial strategy. A modest
number of investments have been made, but much more is required.
Without that investment, we will remain importers of net-zero
technology and miss out on the opportunity to create a domestic
industrial sector, as the bulk of the significant demand created
in the economy to source the new energy system will be spent
abroad, only to widen our trade deficit still further. As the
Committee on Climate Change noted in its last progress report to
government, “important policy gaps remain” and
“Tangible progress is lagging the policy ambition”,
with “little concrete progress” on “cross-cutting enablers” of
the transition.
The most important conclusion of these three reports —ours, Chris
Skidmore’s and the Climate Change Committee’s—is that action is
needed today. There are only 27 years left to undertake a
fundamental change in the way that our economy works and to
secure our energy supply at significantly lower prices, to the
great benefit of all citizens and to provide a welcome boost to
economic growth and social investment. The lack of a clear and
consistent strategy and policy and the sluggish pace of delivery
will lead to delay and missed opportunities. I beg to move.
2.04pm
(Con)
My Lords, it is an honour to follow the noble Lord, , in a debate on our
committee’s inaugural report. I thank him for his chairing of the
committee and for this report, which highlights the significant
challenges of meeting the Government’s target of net zero by
2050.
Although the UK has been more successful than most industrialised
nations in reducing territorial emissions, and has done so by 28%
since 2010, it is clear that a transformation in heating and
travel, as well as substantial investment in new technologies,
will be required. Equally, to cater for the anticipated manifold
increase in electricity demand, the capacity and resilience of
the grid will need to be significantly strengthened. To
facilitate this and to help us meet the challenges of achieving
net zero, the report recommends, as the noble Lord, , has mentioned, the creation
of an energy transformation task force. The task force, based
within the Cabinet Office, would determine strategy, improve
co-ordination across government departments and ensure effective
implementation of decarbonisation policy.
For this vital new body to fulfil its mandate, detailed Treasury
costings on achieving net zero should be sought. At present,
forecasts vary significantly. The Climate Change Committee
estimates costs of approximately £1 trillion by 2050. The
national grid on the other hand, with figures covering only the
decarbonisation of energy, estimates £3 trillion. The Treasury
needs to come up with an independent view. Likewise, the consumer
deserves to understand how these costs will be funded. How will
the burden of cost be distributed? What will be required of the
taxpayer and what of the consumer? What will be the sacrifices
and the benefits? Without consumer buy-in, net zero stands little
hope of success.
Quite rightly, the report stresses the key role that gas will
continue to play in our economy. The International Energy Agency
forecasts that by 2050 over 20% of our energy requirements will
still be provided by fossil fuels. Further gas and oil
exploration in the North Sea, our backyard, should be encouraged.
Unfortunately, it is coming under twin attack. First, due to the
net-zero and ESG commitments of commercial banks and insurance
companies, finance for new exploration projects has been
withdrawn. Secondly, as a result of the imposition of windfall
taxes, investment has been discouraged—note, for example the
recent announcements by Total and Harbour Energy about backing
out of North Sea projects. It follows that investment in
significant renewables projects is likewise threatened.
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the ensuing dramatic rise in
energy prices highlighted the fragility of our energy system. We
rely excessively on overseas supplies. On top of that, the UK
system of calculating wholesale electricity prices relies on the
cost of gas. This means that, at consumers’ expense, renewables
producers and nuclear firms are currently receiving a windfall.
The Government appear to have recognised the need to adjust this
price calculation mechanism. I urge that reform is brought forth
with speed.
Finally, as the House is aware, Ofgem’s role is to regulate the
sector and protect the consumer. In the last 18 months, Ofgem has
not covered itself in glory. Over 30 energy companies have
failed, and these failures have cost the taxpayer £9.2 billion.
This includes the £6.5 billion rescue of Bulb. Inexplicably, the
terms of Bulb’s subsequent acquisition by Octopus remain shrouded
in secrecy. Furthermore, why, in a recent review, did Ofgem
decide not to introduce the ring-fencing of customer credit
balances? Failing companies have been misusing these balances and
surely Ofgem should act on this. I put it to noble Lords that
Ofgem should reassess its persistent focus on switching—a once
valid but now often self-defeating system.
Net zero by 2050 is an important target for the UK. It is
essential that we march towards this goal with all our ducks in a
row. The co-ordinating body, forecasts, funding, regulation and
consumer protection should all be tightly in order so that the
success of the project is as achievable as possible.
2.09pm
(Lab)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow my fellow committee member
the noble Lord, , and to thank the committee’s
chair, my noble friend , for his comprehensive
introduction and his constructive and collegiate approach to our
committee’s work. When you are planning something which has to
happen in seven and 27 years’ time, and construction and
operation take between five years, such as in the case of a
battery factory, and 15 to 20 years for nuclear installations,
that brings it home how urgent some of the decision-making is and
how challenging those decisions are for any Government
contemplating a general election within two years.
I will concentrate on our recommendation for a high-level task
force to start the transformative changes needed, as already
mentioned by the noble Lord, , what pump-priming, if any, the
Government are prepared to support, and how the tension between
the Treasury and BEIS can be solved. The Treasury focuses on new
charges and revenue, whereas the Minister at BEIS has said that
tax rises are not inevitable and that the priority is to bring
people along with us.
First, a task force following the example of the vaccine task
force is essential if there is to be any chance of reaching the
net-zero target. A substantial majority of the witnesses who
contributed to our inquiry were sceptical that the Government had
in place the necessary strategic infrastructure. The Government’s
disappointing response, saying
“Our current governance arrangements are effective”,
and then referring to the
“Government Priorities Delivery Committee (GPDC), chaired by the
PM”,
just does not cut it. Will the Minister ask the Cabinet to think
again?
Secondly, although it is apparent that there are plenty of
willing investors around, there are some areas where the returns
are not so obvious. The Government seem content to leave it to
the private sector, with the honourable exception of some nuclear
development which they have supported. It is important to create
some strategic map to identify key areas of energy security or
innovation where investors are not queuing up and where the state
should intervene, at least in the short term—for instance, gas
storage, interconnectivity, carbon capture, battery manufacturing
and hydrogen, along with encouraging the development of the heat
pump industry so that consumers have supportive infrastructure.
At the moment, those costs need to be brought down.
This industry will not progress unless consumers are convinced
that they will get servicing support, but housebuilders are not
necessarily helping here. A relative of mine who bought a
new-build house showed me an airing cupboard which was not an
airing cupboard—it was full of machinery—and a garden shed which
was not a garden shed but was the pump itself, taking up a
considerable amount of garden space. How are the Government going
about approving, if your Lordships will excuse the pun, these
pump-priming projects?
Thirdly, what is the Government’s thinking on the use of
government borrowing, as recommended in our report and referred
to by my noble friend , and the need to set out
explicitly the distributional consequences for any funding
proposals? The recent energy cost crisis revealed the limitation
of consumer resilience.
Finally, applications for the 33rd UK offshore licensing round
closed last week. Can the Minister indicate when announcements
are likely to be made?
2.13pm
(CB)
My Lords, I too thank the noble Lord, , for chairing the committee
during the investigation and for his introductory remarks. I also
thank the Government for their detailed reply to many of the
questions that were put by the committee and for their
description of the Government’s approach. However, as has been
mentioned, this still leaves us without a clear road map of the
major decisions that remain to be taken, the degree of
uncertainty that surrounds the plans or how the changes are to be
funded.
I accept the Government’s broad ambitions and the general
principles of how to reach them. If we are to reach net zero, we
will need a much larger decarbonised electricity system, well in
advance of 2050. Increased amounts of wind power and solar energy
will be required, as will alternative capacity to deal with
intermittency issues. Unless developments with carbon capture and
long-duration storage are unexpectedly successful, we will need
natural gas for some time. In addition, a viable nuclear power
industry will have to make an important contribution.
The system’s operator will be the body tasked with ensuring that
local power grids can handle this increased variety of sources
and uses of clean energy. It will also be required to keep the
system in balance continuously, which I suspect will not be
straightforward. Persuading households and companies to move to
low-carbon methods of transport and heating could be equally
complicated; they will respond to taxes, subsidies and signals
about whether these new technologies will be successful.
We already see concerns about the inability to purchase cars
powered by petrol or diesel after 2030, and, similarly, about the
prohibition of new gas boilers after 2035. There are concerns
about the lack of rapid chargers for cars and about whether
ground source pumps work as well as gas or oil boilers work now.
I also note the concerns about the shortage of engineers for
installing and maintaining heat pumps and that we are not
improving the energy efficiency of older houses as quickly as is
necessary. That range of concerns, it seems, could easily lead
people to postpone decisions. If we want to see a major switching
to electricity-based vehicles and heating systems, as well as
improving the energy efficiency of older houses, we need to see a
convincing campaign and strategy about the practicalities of
switching and fitting, and refitting, and the performance and
economics of these technologies.
The Government’s response to the committee’s call for a detailed
road map is that decarbonising the economy requires new
technology and an energy mix that we do not know yet. Instead of
a road map, they offer an annual update with progress reports and
a description of what has changed. I understand those
uncertainties and accept that any road map would have to be
dynamic and would have to adjust and respond to events, possibly
frequently. But that should not prevent the Government being much
more adventurous in setting out scenarios, with timings, of how
this drive to decarbonise might develop and the mitigations that
could be available if some of the plans they have do not survive
contact with reality.
Those uncertainties and complications are why the committee
called for a transformation task force within government to act
as both a co-ordinator and monitor of progress. The Government’s
response is to say that existing governance arrangements are
effective and that the path to net zero should be via ministerial
forums, with established governance at official level. I have my
doubts; it seems that, like the vaccine task force, this is a job
for a focused team whose sole task is to deliver that policy and
to help households through the transition. It is complicated, it
will take time and it could be costly. From time to time, there
will be setbacks; some of the plans will require adaption and
there will be noisy opposition to some of the proposals. This is
not business as usual, so the governance of this transformation
should not be considered business as usual either.
2.18pm
(Lab)
My Lords, I thank my noble friend for the report. I remember
that, when it first came out, I was deeply impressed by it. Since
then, we have had a global energy crisis, and in this House we
have considered, but have yet to complete, two enormous and
constantly changing energy Bills to try to set out government
policy more clearly.
Regrettably, those Bills do not answer many of the problems which
the report originally raised. That includes, as others have said,
the storage of gas and the production of renewable energy; the
early deployment of carbon capture and storage; our much clearer
nuclear strategy, including the role of small modular reactors;
and the question of whether hydrogen will play any role in the
heating of housing and other buildings, and the business model
needed to support hydrogen. No decision has been made on the
connectivity of the various arrays of offshore wind, the funding
for heat pumps or the enhanced money for energy efficiency in
homes to ensure that energy efficiency both benefits consumers
and reduces the use of gas in our homes. There is also the
question of how that will be paid for, whether by private or
public funding, and in which way that will be delivered.
Those strategic questions have yet to be answered. The two Bills
we have had since then have done some useful things, many aspects
of which I agree with, but they have not answered many of these
fundamental questions, including the role of the regulator as we
go forward. This report focuses very much on the regulator and we
do not yet have a clear indication about the relationship between
Ofgem’s central role of looking after consumers and the net zero
strategy. In Committee on the current Bill that is still going
through—Committee has not yet finished—I tried to add a
commitment where the role of Ofgem is extended to the consumers
of heat networks. This is much needed, I agree with that, but we
need to write into the terms of reference of Ofgem and other
regulators the need to support and not to undermine the
Government’s net zero strategy.
Like other regulators in the wake of privatisation, Ofgem was
given the responsibility of looking after consumers, quite
rightly, but that has to be expanded. We have to be clearer than
we are in the current regulations and the Bill that is now going
through about the relationship between Ofgem and the proposed
future systems operator for the energy sector. It is important
that not only Ofgem but the rest of our regulators have a
relationship with the net zero strategy. Ofcom and Ofwat, in
particular, need to have a relationship with net zero, as,
frankly, do the financial regulators, to ensure that we are
deploying finance and our whole financial system to support the
overriding importance of net zero. Although this report rightly
relates to Ofgem, we need to take the wider lessons on how
regulation now operates in this day and age.
We also need to take up the point of cross-government
co-ordination. That was repeated in the report just recently
received from , and I hope that, while he
may not be able to give a reply today, the Minister will be able,
by the time the noble Baroness, Lady Hayman, has her QSD on
Thursday, to give us an indication of how the Government will
respond to Chris Skidmore’s report.
2.22pm
(CB)
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, , and his committee for The Net
Zero Transformation: Delivery, Regulation and the Consumer. I
note that the date it was ordered to be printed was 23 February,
the day before the sad war in Ukraine started last year, from
which the global energy crisis resulted. In its report on
net-zero transformation, the committee has said right up front
that the current plans lack the necessary level of policy detail,
and it makes lots of recommendations.
It should be noted that in 2021, after the Government had
legislated in 2019 for a net-zero emissions target by 2050, they
set two additional interim targets: a net- zero power system; and
emissions reduced by 78% by 2035. Some 113 countries and over
one-third of the world’s largest companies, including our FTSE
100 companies, have also set net-zero targets. The Government
have set various policies, including: ending the sale of new
petrol and diesel cars; the use of sustainable aviation fuel;
investing in clean electricity and hydrogen production; providing
funding for households to switch to low-carbon heating
systems—the noble Lord, , spoke about that; incentivising
farmers to use low-carbon farming methods; and planning to triple
the rate of woodlands creation in England. They talk about bold
commitments to meet these ambitions; energy technology policies,
including long-duration storage technologies; a business model
for carbon capture, usage and storage; and the potential for new
nuclear, including small modular reactors.
I have asked time after time, like a stuck record: why are these
small modular reactors not starting? Rolls-Royce says that it can
produce reactors producing 500 megawatts for just under £2
billion. They would power about a million people, versus large
Sizewell C for £22 billion and 3,200 megawatts. What is the
delay? Rolls-Royce says that it can produce 16 of these clean,
sustainable, low-cost, repeatable and scalable SMRs. Can we
please start these as soon as possible?
Can the Minister also update us on the Cadent pilot that is
taking place on using hydrogen to heat homes? One of my proudest
moments at COP 26, when I was there as chancellor of the
University of Birmingham and as president of the CBI, was the
HydroFLEX. The University of Birmingham developed the world’s
first retrofitted hydrogen-powered train and that was up and
running. I chaired a meeting of transport leaders on that train
in conjunction with business and government. That was
universities, government and business working together.
Funding is addressed by the report, as is institutional
architecture. It suggests an energy transition task force. What
about a national centre for the decarbonisation of heat? This
proposal is centred at the University of Birmingham in the West
Midlands to implement the Government’s heat strategy. I chaired
the heat commission when I was president of the CBI. The report
also talks about price controls. The government response, which
came pretty swiftly on 27 May, talks about SMRs moving three
projects to a final investment decision. Have those decisions
been made? Regarding gas, the Government stated that in meeting
net zero by 2030, the UK might still need a quarter of current
gas use, but this is a very important point. This is a
transition. It is not an on/off switch.
This transition will create hundreds of thousands of jobs around
the country and this is great news. The point that is not
addressed in the report is: what about the potential for
cross-border collaboration in this area, particularly with
countries such as India, that are world leaders in solar power
and solar technology? Should we not aim for much more
cross-border collaboration in this area?
2.27pm
(CB)
My Lords, the on-the-button report that we are discussing today,
and the more recent Skidmore review, with its 1,112 granular
paragraphs and 129 detailed recommendations, well illuminate a
true scandal. As a nation, we have declared a widely supported
net-zero goal and then, in effect, walked off to the pub, leaving
behind a black hole where detailed policy and a plan of
implementation ought to be in place. The Government’s response to
the committee is not that plan.
There are scores of challenging issues, many already mentioned,
that remain unresolved. These include: creating a reliable,
accessible EV charging network; decarbonising the heating of
homes and buildings; incentivising insulation; reconfiguring the
electricity grid to create greater capacity to deliver locally
and to enable access for local generation and stored power; a
major transformation identifying the precise mix of generating
technologies, including nuclear, wind and solar and how to store
that surplus power for intermittency; pinning down the as-yet
unsettled economics of hydrogen and carbon capture and storage;
taxing carbon more coherently; setting out a strategy for our
extensive national gas network; and many more.
Valuable as it is to have the Skidmore review, it was an
extraordinary act for the Government to commission it. Doing so
was, in effect, an overt declaration that the Government were not
wrestling with and resolving the host of unsettled issues that
the Skidmore review identifies. Both reviews make similar
recommendations, which we have heard echoed today, of what the
Government now must do; namely, to create effective machinery in
the Cabinet Office to co-ordinate policy-making and action across
Whitehall and the country at large.
Short of running a war, net zero is the biggest issue that
government will ever have to manage. I suggest that what is
needed—again, echoing others to a degree—is a dedicated unit in
the Cabinet Office with a professional project management team;
the capacity to frame policy where more than one Whitehall
department is involved; political leadership, I suggest from the
Deputy Prime Minister chairing a committee of all relevant
Ministers; critically, a Minister of State for net-zero delivery,
with no other responsibilities; and, finally, formal annual
reporting of progress towards net zero, what policy issues have
been resolved and what are yet to be resolved—there will be
many.
The Minister performs a heroic job in this House representing
BEIS on these matters, but I hope that he will be able, in due
course, to report to us that fit-for-purpose machinery will
indeed be put in place—we have heard that plea from all sides of
the House—to supercharge the whole of government to meet our
existential net-zero goals.
2.31pm
(CB)
My Lords, I join others in congratulating the noble Lord, , and his committee on a
powerful and compelling report. I declare my interests as set out
in the register, particularly as a co-chair of Peers for the
Planet.
It is a pleasure to follow the rallying cry of the noble Lord,
. Like him, I think that the theme
that has emerged from the debate today is around strategic
leadership, both on policy and resolving very knotty policy
issues, and on delivery and a focus on a vehicle that will be
successful in not only resolving issues but co-ordinating across
departments. At the moment, Bill after Bill comes to this House
without any net-zero lens being applied to it. From the Back
Benches, we try to put that right, but it is ridiculous that this
should be done on such a haphazard basis. This is an area on
which the committee report really focuses and on which the
Government should really focus.
We have gone backwards on this. I accept the idea of a task force
as a delivery engine but, in their response to the report, the
Government said that there were in fact two Cabinet committees,
one led by the Prime Minister which would push forward the
policies on net zero. We do not have two Cabinet committees; we
have one domestic committee now, which is one of only three that
is not chaired by the Prime Minister. That focus at ministerial
level has gone, which is dangerous.
There are issues in the report that are legislative opportunities
for the Government. On Ofgem’s remit and responsibility, there is
a proposed amendment to the Energy Bill, which we spoke about at
length in Committee, but obviously not persuasively as far as the
Minister was concerned. I hope that he changes his stance given
the support that there is throughout—from civil society, the
industry itself, this committee, the Skidmore review—for Ofgem’s
crucial role in this, which should be made explicit in its
objectives, duties and responsibilities.
There are other opportunities on the Energy Bill, with the
amendments on having the Government bring forward a strategic
policy on energy efficiency and home insulation. We all know that
these things are no-brainers, and yet we have stop-go policies
that are inadequately funded. Year after year, we go on wasting
money and energy because of the failings in our housing
stock.
The last thing I will speak about are the costs. The committee
and the report are very clear that there has to be transparency
about costs, and there are very substantial costs involved. No
one can deny that. However, less often mentioned are the costs of
not taking action, in terms of lost opportunities and the huge
costs of adapting and responding to the events that will happen
if climate change is unabated. The OBR set that out very clearly
a couple of years ago. The costs are also there for our children
and our grandchildren, both economically and in terms of the
lives that they will live. We boomers have been a very privileged
generation.
I am stopping now, but I think it is really important that we
take on our responsibilities here and move forward in the way the
report shows us. In the terms of this Motion, I hope that the
Government take very careful note of this report.
2.36pm
(LD)
My Lords, I, too, congratulate the House of Lords Industry and
Regulators Committee for its work and the noble Lord, , for opening this debate so
compellingly. It is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady
Hayman, who is seeking to make such a difference in this area as
chair of the excellent Peers for the Planet.
It is excellent, of course, that the UK put in place the first
Climate Change Act, committing Governments to change. That Act
has been the model for elsewhere, and so has the Climate Change
Committee, which scrutinises what the UK is doing and measures it
against what needs to happen. The UK has made some impressive
commitments, including ending the sale of new petrol and diesel
cars by 2030; ending the sale of gas boilers, theoretically, from
2035; and reaching net zero by 2050.
If there was one positive thing to come out of Liz Truss’s brief
tenure in Downing Street, it was surely commissioning to review how we were doing
in meeting those commitments. It is all very well having these
ambitions, but are the “guard-rails” in place—as he puts it—to
deliver this? This is where a far less positive theme emerges,
and it is echoed throughout this paper. The Government do not
seem to have an effective strategy for delivering what they
promise, as all noble Lords have said. As the committee says:
“We are not persuaded that the necessary level of policy detail
is in place to achieve these commitments.”
The committee goes on:
“Given the scale of change involved in transforming the energy
system by 2035, the Government must act urgently to make the
necessary decisions and set out the detailed policies and funding
models to allow investment to flow into the sector.”
As the noble Lord, , emphasised, this requires a
major increase in funding. As the noble Baroness, Lady Donaghy,
said, it also requires a transformation in planning and strategy.
The noble Lord, , aptly described the Government
going “off to the pub” on this.
The noble Lord, , laid out some specifics of
what is required, including a transformation task force within
government and amending Ofgem’s duties to include explicit
reference to having due regard to the net-zero target—something
which Chris Skidmore’s review also recommends. The noble Lord,
, emphasised that financial and
strategic commitment is vital if investment and development are
to be stepped up. The noble Lord, , the noble Baroness, Lady Hayman,
and others emphasised that political leadership is vital.
As we have heard, the committee urged clarity and speed in a
number of different areas, including long-term storage
technologies; funding mechanisms for small modular reactors and
carbon capture and storage; funding for energy efficiency and
heat pumps; and that by the end of 2024 the Government should set
out a road map of what they envisage the net-zero energy mix of
the future to consist of. I am a member, as is the noble Lord,
, of the Environment and Climate
Change Committee, which is looking at heat pumps. It is already
very clear that ambition and reality are at huge variance.
This report was concluded almost a year ago. The Government
published a weak response in 2022, mentioning reports that have
not yet appeared. The committee followed up in December with a
list of questions on specific areas which must be delivered at
speed if net zero is to be realised and, as the noble Lord,
, mentioned, if we are not to
fall behind the EU and the US. The collapse of Britishvolt does
not augur well. The committee requested a response before this
report was debated. As of yesterday when I looked, it was not
forthcoming, so I gather it has not been produced. The noble
Lord, , told us that Davos
intervened. The invasion of Ukraine might not have been
anticipated, but Davos surely should have been.
There was a successful legal challenge to the Government over
their not being on course to deliver net zero or their
obligations under the Climate Change Act. The judge in that case
required that the Government update their strategy by this
spring. As the noble Lord, , said, it cannot be business as
usual: strategy and commitment are urgently required, so the
strategy had better not be warm words and plans alone. The
committee’s report makes it clear that transformative actions are
urgently required. I hope that the Minister will give some
specific answers in his response; if he does not, it will further
illustrate what the committee has been saying. I noticed that
during the speech by the noble Lord, , the Minister seemed to find
either the speech or something else rather amusing. So, when the
noble Lord, , asks for a strategy—promised
since 2014—I hope the answer will not be “soon” or “in due
course”.
I might say this, might I not? But when put in place an industrial
strategy which emphasised and, more to the point, supported the
UK’s biomedical sector, having analysed the strengths and
weaknesses of the UK’s industrial sector, it helped to lay the
groundwork for our global position on vaccine development when
the pandemic struck. It very much built on our academic
strengths, to which the noble Lord, , referred.
We are now facing an even bigger challenge. Do we have evidence
of a strategic approach here? I am afraid that we do not. Maybe
the Minister’s amusement, as also expressed during the speeches
by the noble Lords, and , means that he will confound
us when he replies with a solid strategy, backed by the Treasury,
with specific answers to what this committee has rightly
demanded. This is too important just to be met with warm
words.
2.43pm
(Lab)
My Lords, I add my thanks to my noble friend and the members of the
Industry and Regulators Committee for their work. It was very
interesting to hear the contributions from the noble Lord, , and my noble friend Lady Donaghy
about what they think of this important work. The report is very
detailed and far-reaching and, I think we all agree, has come up
with some very practical suggestions which have been emphasised
and built upon in today’s debate.
We have heard a great deal about the background, with an inquiry
launched in June 2021 and a report published in March 2022. I can
only sympathise with members as it must be frustrating, to say
the least, to see the lack of progress on their important
recommendations. It appears that there is ambition from this
Government, as outlined by the noble Baroness, Lady Northover, in
her contribution. But the calls that we have heard for urgent
action, clarity of purpose, application of common sense and the
practical steps needed, as outlined in the recommendations,
continue to fall on deaf ears. This is despite the crisis caused
by Russia and the wider security implications that has led to
and, of course, the ongoing cost of living crisis—not to mention
the rapid increase in extreme weather events.
As has been mentioned, we now have the substantial report from
the former government Energy Minister, , published and ready for
debate. It includes an urgent wake-up call that the UK will miss
out on huge economic benefits if it does not grip the actions
needed to achieve net zero by 2050 with immediate effect. We
heard from the noble Lord, , in particular about the
creation of quality jobs that that will bring, and the noble
Baroness, Lady Hayman, eloquently outlined the costs of lost
opportunity. Her comments about the need for strategic leadership
could never be more important than today.
How depressing it is therefore that the investments for major
government spend through the levelling-up fund announced
yesterday do not have a narrative of contributing to achieving
net zero running through them—another missed opportunity to add
to the very real concerns that they will not help reduce regional
inequalities and about the lack of transparency around the
decision-making process. Surely every government policy and major
spending decision should, by now, have to account for its
contribution to this agenda. Every department has a
responsibility to assess its contribution to making progress to
net zero by 2035 to 2050, recognising the institutional
architecture, as discussed in the report, to deliver results.
The discussion about the need to establish the task force, as
mentioned in the report, and perhaps to take it further into the
heart of government has been very timely. As we have heard, there
is a very large gap between the ambitious targets and the
intensive investment required from businesses and individuals
alike. Given the scale of change involved in transforming the
energy system by 2035, the Government must urgently act to make
the necessary decisions and set out detailed policies and funding
models to allow investment to flow into the sector. We know that
some of the technologies we will need are not yet established,
but that should not be used as an excuse for delay.
The report clearly lays out that, if the power system is not
decarbonised by 2035, reaching net zero by 2050 will be extremely
difficult. I note the scepticism from witnesses to the committee
around these targets, but I believe that, with the right
commitment and leadership, this journey can be achieved. However,
trade-offs will be required, and this needs to be managed at the
highest level of government.
The coming decade is crucial to tackling the climate and
ecological crises. The latest findings from the independent panel
on climate change were the starkest warning yet that the crisis
is here right now and is the biggest long-term threat that we
face. The extreme weather events of recent months will become
more frequent; urgent action is required to drive down emissions
and adapt and protect communities from the changes to our climate
that are already baked in. Tackling these crises requires not
just words but action, political commitment, leadership,
implementation and joined-up working between all levels of
government.
I do not think that the approval of the new coal mine in Cumbria
has been mentioned today, but it is an important issue to raise
given the mixed messages that those sorts of decisions give out
to the wider world and to communities across the country.
We welcome the change of heart, as we understand it, on onshore
wind—we could never understand why that was left to one side—but
we need to see more action around energy efficiency, which is
discussed at every level.
Many challenges have been outlined today. Through the Energy
Bill, the debate goes on, so there is an opportunity on Report
for the Minister to respond to the concerns raised during
Committee, in particular in relation to the improvements being
made around the independent future system operator, ensuring that
independence is indeed at the centre of the work.
Ofgem has taken centre stage in many of the points made today,
and with good reason. It must learn from its failures, which have
had a profound impact on people across this country. We argue
that the Energy Bill should contain a remit for net zero. This is
an interesting debate, and we think it is time to push as far as
we can with Ofgem’s role and responsibilities.
The important matter of consumer protection is rightly at the
heart of the report. As we go through the serious changes that we
will need to bring about, we recognise just how important it is
to take consumers and our communities with us. We do not have a
sufficient level of communication from government explaining what
the challenges are and what the possible actions can be to assist
people. In some parts of the country, there has been close
partnership working with people in local communities, with quite
extensive results. Those examples should be looked at and learned
from so that we can have a sensible debate, recognising the
challenges from government around future costs and where the
trade-offs might be between taxpayers and bill payers.
I think that we all recognise that we are at a serious, pivotal
moment. Britain needs to step up to maintain its leading role. I
hope that the Minister will be able to demonstrate a step change
in the Government’s approach, fully recognising the urgency, the
relentless focus and the leadership needed to grip the agenda.
There is an opportunity to match ambition with action. As I have
mentioned, we have the Energy Bill, and we look forward to some
movement from the Government and the proposed amendments coming
forward. However, we do not yet have evidence that the action
required is about to happen. A starting point would be a positive
response to the very sound recommendations laid out in the report
of the Industry and Regulators Committee before us.
2.53pm
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for
Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy () (Con)
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, , for the report from the
committee and for securing this important debate. I am grateful
also for many of the other contributions. I start by apologising
to the noble Lord that the reply from Secretary of State is not
with him. It is with the Secretary of State at the moment, who
has been away in Davos this week. Nevertheless, it should not
have been beyond the wit of government to get the reply to him by
this debate. I am also grateful to members of the Industry and
Regulators Committee, and to all those who provided written and
verbal contributions, which enabled the preparation of such a
thorough report.
Like other Members, I am proud that, under this Government, we
were the first major economy in the world to enshrine net zero
into legislation. We set out in the net-zero strategy a bold
vision for a decarbonised economy by 2050 and a net-zero power
system by 2035. That shows that we have not lost any of that
ambition.
I was very interested in the contribution from the noble Lord,
, particularly given his former
position. I am tempted to say it is a shame that he is not still
in that position, given some of my recent discussions with that
department, but perhaps that is a conversation we should have
privately. He rightly focused on a road map to net zero. Although
we do not yet know what the exact technology and energy mix will
look like in 2050, we have a clear plan and a clear strategy for
getting there—and, in doing so, we can manage at least some of
the uncertainty he mentioned by forging the future ourselves.
We are working to make our clean energy future a reality with
many brilliant and innovative British businesses, to help to
industrialise emerging technologies, from British-built
hydrogen-fuelled aircraft engines to small modular reactors that
could each power 1 million homes. We are building on these
success stories in the sectors where we already lead the world.
Last year we completed the world’s largest wind farm at Hornsea
2, harnessing the high winds of the North Sea to deliver clean,
affordable and secure energy for Britain, alongside the second-
and third-largest wind farms, which are all in UK territorial
waters and all done by us.
In the British Energy Security Strategy, we set out a new
ambition: to deliver up to 50 gigawatts of offshore wind by 2030,
including up to 5 gigawatts of innovative floating offshore wind.
With the support of the offshore wind acceleration task force
that we set up to drive forward delivery, alongside some of the
measures in the Energy Bill to which the noble Lord, , and others referred, I am
confident we will succeed. It will be a challenge, because we
have been so successful at rolling it out in this country that
now the rest of Europe wants to do the same, which will of course
present some inevitable problems with the supply chain.
Nevertheless, it is a challenge that we are determined to
meet.
Other noble Lords referred to another key challenge that we face,
which, for a secure, cost-effective and low-carbon energy system,
is storage. That is why we are committed to deploying enough
large-scale and long-duration energy storage technologies to
balance our overall energy system. To do that, we are working
with industry to develop the best policy to enable investment by
2024. As noble Lords said, we are investing in nuclear, too, to
complement the wind, solar, tidal and geothermal energy that we
have, and play a vital role in beyond-the-grid applications,
including the production of hydrogen and synthetic fuels for
future use. Last year, we gave the green light to the development
of Sizewell C, with a £679 million investment, which represented
the first state backing for a nuclear project in over 30 years.
This marks a milestone in a nuclear renaissance for our country
as we pioneer new approaches to deliver not just reliable clean
energy for Britain but new industries, new skills and, of course,
new jobs.
The noble Lord, , pointed to the exciting
potential of SMRs, and we are working hard to set up Great
British Nuclear and actively engaging industry to develop a
delivery model and funding strategy for small modular reactors
that addresses market needs, too, providing backing for a
technology which, as the noble Lord said, promises to make
nuclear quicker, cheaper, and easier to deploy. It is an industry
in which the UK is very much at the very cutting edge
globally.
My noble friend mentioned the important role of
oil and gas. I also recognise, as I have stated many times in
this House, the role of our own North Sea gas reserves, to ensure
security of supply as we transition to net zero. As other noble
Lords mentioned, it is a transition, and we will very much need
gas during that transition. This exemplifies our whole-system
approach to meeting our net-zero ambitions, where we tackle this
most complex of challenges and drive forward technological
developments on all fronts. That includes technologies such as
carbon capture, usage and storage. The noble Lord, , highlighted the importance of
CCUS, which does not just offer a green alternative for our heavy
industries and a way of securing our electricity sector through
decarbonising natural gas usage but opens up the possibility of
delivering negative emissions through greenhouse gas removal.
As the Climate Change Committee has observed, CCUS
“is a necessity, not an option”.
We are determined to deploy it in a way that is designed to drive
value for money for taxpaye1rs and consumers. It is a priority
for this Government and we are progressing at pace. We will
invest up to £1 billion to establish carbon capture and storage
in up to four industrial clusters by 2030. The first two clusters
have already been selected and, in August, we published a
shortlist of associated projects taken forward into the track 1
due diligence phase. Further detail on the track 2 process will
be set out later this year.
We are working to deliver the CCUS business models. In November,
we published the dispatchable power agreement and, in December,
we published the hydrogen and industrial carbon capture business
models along with an update on carbon capture and storage network
codes. CCUS also provides a way to power up the production of
low-carbon hydrogen, a potential fuel of the future where, again,
our expertise puts us right at the cutting edge. We have
confirmed our intention to proceed with a producer-focused
hydrogen business model, which will be critical to unlocking
private investment in new low-carbon hydrogen production. We are
supporting fuel switching to hydrogen in industry through nearly
£400 million in energy transformation funding; we are also
working with industry and regulators on hydrogen heating.
The noble Baroness, Lady Northover, noted the role of heat pumps.
We are investing here and in the boiler upgrade scheme; I was
happy to give evidence on that to the noble Baroness’s committee
recently. The scheme provides financial support for the
installation of low-carbon heat technology, primarily heat pumps,
in homes and small non-domestic buildings to help support the
transition away from fossil fuel heating. The scheme offers an
upfront grant payment to help customers overcome the high upfront
capital cost of low-carbon heating technologies, which will be
crucial in the transition away from fossil fuel systems.
This winter has shown us just how important energy efficiency is
for bringing down bills for British households. That is why the
Government have so far committed to spending £6.6 billion in this
Parliament on decarbonising buildings. Much of the work will be
led by our new Energy Efficiency Taskforce, further details of
which we will announce shortly. This will spearhead a new
national effort to reduce energy demand and achieve our ambition
to reduce the UK’s final energy consumption from buildings and
industry by 15% by 2030.
In his opening speech, the noble Lord, , recognised the crucial role
of investment. Since March 2021, the Government have committed a
total of £30 billion of domestic investment for the green
industrial revolution. Over the next 15 years, we will work with
the private sector to facilitate investment of something like
between £280 billion and £400 billion in the power system in
technologies such as offshore wind, hydrogen, energy storage and
nuclear. Our Ten Point Plan for a Green Industrial Revolution,
together with the Net Zero Strategy and the British Energy
Security Strategy, are already expected to drive an unprecedented
£100 billion of private sector investment and support 480,000
jobs by 2030. Bloomberg New Energy Finance estimates that, in
2021 alone, around £24 billion of new investment was committed in
the UK across low-carbon sectors.
Last year, the Government published investor road maps on
electric vehicles, hydrogen, CCUS and the aviation sectors. We
are committed to publishing a comprehensive update to our Green
Finance Strategy in the first half of this year. As noble Lords
will know, we are also progressing the Energy Bill, which will
help to liberate private investment in clean technologies,
protect consumers and reform the UK’s energy system so that it is
safe, efficient and resilient.
On the strategy and policy statement, as noble Lords would
expect, the Government have prioritised work in relation to high
global gas prices recently. We are making progress and have now
completed the first-stage consultation with the devolved
Administrations and Ofgem. Since the change of government, we
have restarted work on the statement and are preparing for a
public consultation in the spring.
My noble friend highlighted the critical role of
Ofgem. The report also recognises Ofgem’s important role in
enabling the net-zero transition. Its primary statutory duty is
to protect the interests of existing and future consumers, which
of course includes their interests in the reduction of greenhouse
gases. The Government continue to maintain that an additional
net-zero duty for Ofgem is not necessary.
I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Donaghy, and others on the
Industry and Regulators Committee, about the importance of
effective scrutiny and effective governance arrangements. Our
current governance arrangements are effective, and we continue to
evolve and strengthen our overall approach, taking into account
the recommendations of the committee’s report, the Public
Accounts Committee, the NAO and other bodies.
I hope that the noble Baroness, Lady Blake, appreciates that I
cannot say too much about the Cumbria mine, but I assure the
House that I understand the strength of feeling of many Members
on that.
The noble Lord, , commented on energy prices and
reflected on how the world has changed since the report was
published. Since then, we have stepped in to support the British
people and households with unprecedented support to help them to
pay their energy bills. On fairness and affordability, the
Government’s plan to publish a call for evidence was somewhat
superseded by the turn of events and the announcements on energy
price support over the last six months, including the decision to
suspend the so-called green levies through the energy price
guarantee.
The noble Lord, , asked about the programme
of hydrogen village trials. In May, the Government and Ofgem
announced that Cadent and NGN’s proposals for potential hydrogen
village trial locations in the two shortlisted areas, one in
Redcar and one in Whitby, near Ellesmere Port, would be developed
in more detail. We expect to make a decision on the location of
the selected village trial later this year.
The noble Lords, and , and the noble Baroness, Lady
Blake, commented on and noted the publication of the Skidmore
report, which was commissioned and welcomed by the Government. We
will of course reply to that later this year. The Government
remain committed to achieving net zero by 2050 by pursuing a
pro-business and pro-growth approach to meeting our target and
ensuring that the costs, as well as the benefits, are shared
fairly, protecting consumers, workers and businesses. The target
remains a government priority, and, as many Members observed, the
net-zero transition will provide huge opportunities for jobs,
investment, innovation and exports.
We have already achieved a lot on our road to net zero: between
1990 and 2019, we have grown our economy by 76%, at the same time
as cutting emissions by over 44%, decarbonising faster than any
other G7 country. I know that many noble Lords want to go further
and faster, but we should recognise that we have already achieved
a lot. The Government will carefully consider the proposed
recommendations and will respond to the review later in the
year.
The noble Lord, , mentioned the role of the
future system operator. Net zero is creating new challenges for
our energy system, and it is crucial that the system is managed
in a way that promotes a safe and secure energy system and that
the best possible advice is available to inform the many crucial
decisions that will be needed. The FSO will also have
responsibilities in both the electricity and the gas systems,
which will bring together the planning of both systems to drive
competition and maintain a robust and secure system during the
important transition to net zero. The FSO will be regulated by
Ofgem and will provide accountability and a known framework for
sector engagement. Its funding will be allocated through the
price-control process, also managed by Ofgem. It will serve as an
expert body, with comprehensive understanding of the system and
its inner workings, adopting a holistic view to achieving net
zero while maintaining energy security.
The Government are committed to ensuring that the costs of the
UK’s energy transition are fair and affordable for all energy
consumers. Recent rises in wholesale energy prices have added
pressure to energy bills. The Government understand the
difficulties that households and businesses face, and we have
taken comprehensive action to support energy consumers. Our focus
continues to be on providing robust support for energy consumers:
for households, through the energy price guarantee until March
2024, plus further targeted support for the most vulnerable
households, and for non-domestic consumers through the energy
bills relief scheme until March 2023, and the energy bills
discount scheme for the following year.
The Government are extending the energy price guarantee from
April 2023 until April 2024 so that the typical household will
pay an average yearly energy bill of £3,000— we emphasise that
that is an average, not a cap—and are continuing to support UK
businesses through the energy bills discount scheme. Alongside
support for households and businesses, the Government are working
to ensure that energy bills remain affordable in the long term.
Our exposure to volatile gas prices underscores the importance of
the plan, which I think the whole House agrees will build a
strong, home-grown renewable energy sector. The Climate Change
Committee agrees that our net-zero strategy and the British
energy security strategy represent comprehensive and viable plans
for reaching our world-leading target of eliminating our
contribution to climate change by 2050, which we are well on the
road to implementing.
This Government have a clear vision and a clear strategy for a
transformed clean energy system, and the drive to continue that,
delivering for the British people.
3.11pm
(Lab)
I thank all speakers today for their contributions. There is a
theme of “Get on with it. Don’t go down the pub”. I think the
Government have indicated—the Minister did in his remarks—that
after a regrettable delay, we will receive a letter responding to
the queries we made. I hope that will be an opportunity to
discuss and debate the responses further.
The Minister also indicated that the strategy and planning
document and the fairness and affordability work are under way
and that we can expect them shortly. He mentioned that there was
a consultation process that included the regions to be involved.
One of the things that comes through very strongly from the
debate and the work we have done is that this is quite the
biggest challenge the country has faced. It is on an enormous
scale and is going to last 27 years. It is unlikely, I hope, that
the same Government will be in office throughout those 27 years,
so it is very important that we build a cross-party coalition for
this. That is essential if we are to attract investment from
overseas. Our reputation as a reliable, safe and predictable
country to invest in has, over the past few years, taken a bit of
a knock, so it is important that when the Government publish
their plans, they reach out across Parliament and across the
nations and regions of the UK to get buy-in and to make sure that
everybody knows that we are all heading in the same direction. Of
course, the details will change and technologies will change and
develop, but I urge the Government to hurry up and to make sure
that they have consulted and got broad support from the nations
of the UK and the other parties, but also that they have reached
out to consumers and have them on board.
Motion agreed.
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