The Minister for Health (Edward Argar) I beg to move, That the
Committee has considered the Draft Food and Feed Safety
(Miscellaneous Amendments and Transitional Provisions) Regulations
2022. It is a pleasure once again to serve under your chairmanship,
Ms Rees. It is also a pleasure to serve opposite the shadow
Minister, the hon. Member for Cambridge. Over a number of months,
the hon. Member for Nottingham North (Alex Norris) and I regularly
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The Minister for Health ()
I beg to move,
That the Committee has considered the Draft Food and Feed Safety
(Miscellaneous Amendments and Transitional Provisions)
Regulations 2022.
It is a pleasure once again to serve under your chairmanship, Ms
Rees. It is also a pleasure to serve opposite the shadow
Minister, the hon. Member for Cambridge. Over a number of months,
the hon. Member for Nottingham North () and I regularly debated
European Union-related statutory instruments in Committee, to the
extent that we could almost finish off each other’s speeches by
the end of it. I suspect the same was true for the hon. Member
for Cambridge and the Minister for Farming, Fisheries and Food,
my hon. Friend the Member for Banbury (), in a similar context.
It is a pleasure to serve opposite him today.
This draft instrument, which concerns food and feed law, is made
under powers in the Food Safety Act 1990 and the European Union
(Withdrawal) Act 2018. It follows on from the 18 EU exit
instruments on food and feed safety made during 2019 and
2020—probably many of them etched on the hon. Gentleman’s mind.
The Government’s priority is, as always, to ensure that the high
standard of food safety and consumer protection we enjoy in this
country continues to be maintained now that the UK has left the
European Union.
The draft instrument is technical in nature. None the less, I am
sure that hon. Members will welcome a brief summary of the
regulations and the changes that we are making. The measure
serves three key functions. First, it will ensure that emergency
powers can be applied equally to all food and feed entering Great
Britain. Retained EU regulation 178/2002 on the general
principles of food law provides Ministers with emergency powers
to suspend or restrict the placing of food or feed on the market.
That can be used where food or feed presents a threat to human
health. Legal analysis of article 53 of that regulation
identified that, as worded at present, it is not possible for a
Minister to exercise those emergency powers over third-country
food and feed entering Great Britain via Northern Ireland.
I emphasise that that operability issue is confined only to
third-country goods entering Great Britain via Northern Ireland.
Emergency powers to restrict third-country products that present
a risk to health having access to the Northern Ireland market are
already in place. To correct that identified issue, the draft
regulations include a technical amendment that will enable all
Ministers to apply, equally, the same emergency controls to all
food and feed destined for our market, regardless of their place
of origin or route of consignment. The amendment does not extend
the remit or gravity of the controls that may be introduced, but
will ensure that emergency controls are exercisable equally
across all parts of the United Kingdom.
Secondly, the draft instrument ensures that authorising
provisions for feed additives and for genetically modified food
and feed authorisations will be made by legislation. Again, legal
analysis of fixed and retained EU law identified that retained EU
regulation 1831/2003 on feed additives and retained EU regulation
1829/2003 on GM food and feed contained a number of omissions.
The regulations did not sufficiently make it clear that the
authorisation decisions for those products must be prescribed in
legislation. While that does not prevent Ministers from taking
decisions to authorise those products, provision for those
decisions to be implemented through legislation makes certain
their enforceability in law and, of course, the role of this
House. The proposed amendment therefore clarifies the fact that
decisions on authorisations for feed additives and for
genetically modified food and feed will be prescribed through
legislation, thus ensuring consistency with other retained EU law
in this area.
Thirdly and finally, the draft instrument provides a period of
adjustment for changes to labelling requirements made necessary
by EU exit legislation. In preparation for EU exit, changes were
made to the legislation on extraction solvents and quick-frozen
foods to reflect the fact that the UK would no longer be part of
the EU. As a result, relevant food placed on the market on or
after 1 January 2021 is required to be labelled with the name and
UK address of the legal person responsible for it, rather than an
EU contact and address.
The draft instrument provides for a period of adjustment in those
sectors, allowing for the continued use of labels with an EU
contact and address until 30 September this year. The adjustment
applies to England only. The Food Standards Agency has worked
with its counterparts in Wales and Scotland to ensure a
co-ordinated approach, and similar measures are already in place
in those Administrations. Through the hon. Member for Coatbridge,
Chryston and Bellshill, I put on the record my gratitude to all
the devolved Administrations for the constructive engagement that
we have had with them on these matters. The regulations will
support food businesses in England that source products from the
EU, or from outside the EU, through an EU distributor. They are
also in line with the approach being taken by Department for
Environment, Food and Rural Affairs to labelling changes within
its remit.
Let me make it clear that the SI does not introduce any changes
that will impact on the day-to-day operation of food businesses;
nor does it introduce any new regulatory burden. The essence of
the legislation is unchanged, but it provides benefit for certain
businesses by enabling a period of grace in the introduction of
the labelling changes.
To the point that I just made to the hon. Member for Coatbridge,
Chryston and Bellshill, it is important to note that Scotland and
Wales have provided their consent for the SI. The Northern
Ireland Department of Health has been briefed on the amendments,
and we have engaged positively with the DAs. I welcome their
engagement on that and the constructive relationships that
officials of the Scottish Government and others have with my
officials and officials in DEFRA.
I want to take the opportunity to reassure hon. Members that the
overarching aim of the regulations is to provide continuity for
business and to ensure that high standards of safety and quality
for food and feed regulation continue across the UK. As I said,
the changes do not affect the essence of existing legislation.
They are simply technical in nature and ensure that emergency
provisions that allow for controls on food or feed identified as
presenting a serious risk to health may be applied equally to any
goods destined for the market. They will ensure that appropriate
legislative provision is in place to enable decisions taken to
authorise feed additives and GM food or feed to be enacted
through legislation. Finally, they will provide for a smooth
transition through the transition period, to allow businesses to
adjust to the new labelling requirements.
Having effective and functional law in this area is key to
ensuring that the high standards of food safety and consumer
protection that we enjoy in this country are maintained in the
immediate and longer term. I therefore ask hon. Members to
support the SI before us.
11.37am
(Cambridge) (Lab)
It is a pleasure to serve with you in the Chair, Ms Rees. I echo
the comments made by the Minister at the beginning. I have spent
many a happy hour in dialogue with the Minister for Farming,
Fisheries and Food, the hon. Member for Banbury. It is always a
pleasure to speak to her, and it is great to have the opportunity
to hear another voice.
It is also a pleasure to deal with anything brought forward by
the Food Standards Agency—a great achievement of the last Labour
Government—which was established in 2000 to ensure food safety
after the problems of the previous decade. Those who have
followed the history of the agency will note with interest that
it is a health Minister responding today. I could not possibly
comment on why that might be, but many of the Food Standards
Agency’s powers were moved elsewhere under the coalition
Government. However, it is a fine agency.
The statutory instrument deals with a number of significant
issues, although they are largely technical, as the Minister
said. We absolutely agree that they need to be resolved, and you
will be pleased to know, Ms Rees, that we will not oppose the SI.
Some of the regulations touch on the very challenging issues
posed by the Northern Ireland protocol, and I am grateful to the
Minister for his clear explanations in spelling them out. I am
also very impressed by the explanation in the explanatory
memorandum. Those of us who are now becoming aficionados of
statutory instruments will note the different styles from
different Departments, and I was delighted to hear the Food
Standards Agency’s positive account of the current set-up. In
fact, I am so impressed that I will read it into the record.
Paragraph 7.4 states:
“Before IP completion day, relevant EU food and feed law provided
a high level of consumer protection with regard to food and feed
hygiene and safety. In particular, relevant EU food and feed law
set out the general principles for the safe and hygienic
production of food and feed. They also prescribed effective and
proportionate controls which must be applied by food business
operators and feed business operators throughout the food chain,
from primary production through to the sale or supply to the
final consumer.”
That is absolutely right, and it is a very good system.
I hope that one or two of those in DEFRA who, as I have been
saying to the hon. Member for Banbury, are a bit more negative
about it will note the reasoned and sensible approach that the
Food Standards Agency takes. If we look at paragraphs 7.7 and
7.9, however, where the first two items referred to by the
Minister are set out in detail, I have to ask whether this has
been a paper exercise in which potential problems have been
identified, or whether any of the situations that could have
occurred actually occurred. If they have occurred, how have they
been dealt with? Will the Minister tell us whether any such
situations have actually occurred, and explain how they were
dealt with?
I welcome the clarification that the GM and feed additive
authorisations will be done through an SI. Will the Minister
clarify which procedure is to be used, whether negative or
affirmative? There is considerable public interest in some of
this. Will he also spell out how that sits with the Government’s
longer-term strategy for GM products, given the recent statutory
instrument that changed some of the rules on research and
gene-edited crops?
Another issue is that of labelling and the length of any grace
period as existing labels are used up, which paragraph 7.11
states will be through to 30 September. The Minister may or may
not be aware of the many issues facing the food production sector
at the moment, but labelling is one of them, ironically—there is
a real shortage of labels, frankly, and that is a significant
problem, as we can all imagine. An article in The Grocer last
week highlighted that that is one of the most pressing issues. I
wonder whether that date is still considered appropriate in these
circumstances, not least because some of the consultations
referred to go back a long way. Back in 2018, the world was a
very different place. Much has changed since then.
I was struck by the consultations—nerd that I am, I’m afraid I
read some of them, and they make interesting reading. One of the
complaints or observations by the sector, referenced a little in
the explanatory memorandum, was about the expectation that the
changes to the regulations could be read through in under an
hour, with businesses, regulatory agencies and councils able to
work out how to apply the changes to their organisations.
Frankly, a lot of people thought that that was optimistic. I
wonder whether any further thought has been given to it.
Some of the observations, although from a while ago, were quite
prescient. The National Pig Association, the National Farmers
Union and the Food and Drink Federation all raised questions. In
particular, the NFU asked about the relationship with the
European Food Safety Authority. My noble Friend in the other
place, , has frequently asked that
question. Back in the consultation, the NFU said:
“The NFU is also concerned that the approach the government plans
to take depends on the UK’s relationship with EFSA. We would very
much support close collaboration with EFSA but we need
reassurance that this will happen…Given the trade flows between
UK and EU, it is essential that the exchange of information and
collaboration…on the same terms is achieved.”
I could make many more points, Ms Rees, but you will be glad that
I am not going to. I have raised the ones I wanted to explore
this morning. If the Minister could comment briefly on the
relationship with the EFSA in the context of the draft statutory
instrument, it would be much appreciated.
11.43am
(Coatbridge, Chryston and
Bellshill) (SNP)
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Ms Rees.
I echo most of the contribution of the shadow Minister, the hon.
Member for Cambridge, save for a few brief comments. While the
draft SI covers necessary changes post Brexit, as laid out by the
Minister, it highlights the need for a proper discussion about
the introduction of genetically modified organisms and
genetically engineered products. I wonder whether the Minister
will assist the House in enabling that to happen.
Any introduction of GMOs or GE products into the UK market must
come only with the consent of each devolved Government. As the
Minister laid out, that has been forthcoming from Holyrood, and
discussions with the Senedd and Stormont are ongoing. The UK
Internal Market Act 2020, however, must not be used as a way to
introduce GE or GM products into the Scottish market through the
back door. We will be keeping a close eye on that.
The changes in the draft regulations are in reality for the
protection of all our citizens and to ensure that our high
standards of food safety are maintained. That collaborative
approach by the UK and Scottish Governments will continue
whenever it is required in the interest of all citizens.
11.44am
I will be brief, but will endeavour to respond to the shadow
Minister and to the SNP spokesman, the hon. Member for
Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill.
If I may, I will turn first to the SNP spokesman’s comments and
then come to the shadow Minister’s comments. At the risk of
creating a challenge for us in respect of GM—I know that that
issue attracts considerable attention across the House—I say,
with slight hesitancy, that of course it is open to the hon.
Member for Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill to choose it for an
Opposition day debate. I am sure that the relevant Minister would
be delighted to respond. That is obviously a matter for the hon.
Gentleman and his party, but there are and will continue to be
opportunities in the House for an issue of that public interest
to be debated.
More broadly, the hon. Gentleman made the point about the
relationship between the devolved Administrations and the UK
Government. I have worked throughout the pandemic and through the
Brexit period, leading on a number of issues in the relationship
with the Scottish Government and others, and I am certainly
grateful for the constructive approach. There will be times when
we have political differences of opinion. That is in the nature
of a democracy and of the stances that we are all elected to
espouse. But I certainly have found the relationship to be
constructive and open, particularly in the context of the current
legislation on health that we are putting through, and I look
forward to continuing that open and constructive relationship, at
both official and ministerial level, on issues such as this and
more broadly.
Turning to the shadow Minister’s comments, I am, as ever,
grateful both for his support and for his tone and his reasonable
questions. I am always happy to give credit where it is due, and
quite rightly he highlighted the creation of the FSA under a
Labour Government. That is a matter of fact, and I am certainly
happy to give him, on behalf of his party, the credit for that
achievement and for what he did there.
The hon. Gentleman highlighted the paragraphs in the explanatory
memorandum that set out the Northern Ireland protocol, and the
impacts on how the current system or the previous, EU-led system
works and how that will transition. I, perhaps like him, always
ensure that I read through explanatory memorandums before taking
part in a delegated legislation debate. Indeed, I make a point,
when it is in my policy area, of actually reading them, given
that it is my signature as a Minister on the bottom of them. In
this case, it is the signature of the Under-Secretary of State
for Health and Social Care, my hon. Friend the Member for Erewash
(), who sadly is not able to be
here today, but I know that she takes the same approach. I will
take this opportunity, if I may, to thank all the exceptionally
talented and hard-working officials who have worked on this
statutory instrument, got it to this stage and done the due
diligence to ensure that we can have this debate and that we have
the right materials to make it an informed debate. I am always
grateful for the work of incredibly talented officials, who serve
not just me as the Minister but this country, whoever is in
government.
We continue to maintain the high standards of food and feed
safety that the hon. Member for Cambridge highlighted, as set out
in the explanatory memorandum. He touched on paragraphs 7.7 and
7.9. I am not aware of any practical events that have been a
cause; I think that this is about tidying up and making the
legislation fit for purpose. I am not aware of any specific ones.
However, should I be informed that I am incorrect, I will of
course write to the hon. Gentleman to correct what I have said.
But I am not aware of any. The hon. Gentleman asked what
procedure would be used. It would be the negative procedure for
delegated legislation, in respect of that.
On labelling and the timescale, I hear what the hon. Gentleman
says, both about the challenges faced by the sector overall—in
recent months, we have seen that manifesting itself in a variety
of ways—and about the challenges, potentially challenges we do
not yet fully know, coming out of the international situation.
But I believe that the labelling deadline, the grace period till
September 2022, provides a proportionate and reasonable amount of
time to enable industry to adapt. I am very conscious, through my
work on the Northern Ireland protocol in the context of medicines
and medical devices, of the different lead times that industry
needs, depending on the nature of what it has to do to its
logistics networks, supply chains or compliance regimes, but in
this context I believe that the six-month period is
reasonable.
The hon. Gentleman mentioned that of course in 2018 we were in a
very different place—I think that is something on which he and I
would agree. We may disagree about what has happened since and
whether it is for the best or not, but I cannot disagree with his
statement of fact that 2018 was a very different place and
certainly felt like it.
A common thread running through all the work that we are doing in
this space is that we seek to make the relevant regulations and
put in place the relevant compliance regime, to protect safety,
to protect the consumer and to protect high standards, but, at
the same time, to ensure that that is proportionate and does not
place an undue burden on business. I believe that with these
technical amendments and what they pertain to more broadly, we
have struck an appropriate balance.
The hon. Gentleman mentioned the NFU. I suspect I share his view.
I have a good relationship with my local branch of the NFU and I
pay tribute to the work that it does and that nationally the NFU
does to highlight issues relevant to our agriculture and food
production industry in this country. We always carefully consider
any representations that they or others in this space make.
Finally, the hon. Gentleman talked about the relationship with
EFSA. We have no plans to deviate from the current relationship,
and that relationship is broadly characterised by close
collegiate working. We recognise the importance of data sharing
and working in a co-ordinated and, as I said, collegiate way in
this space.
As I said, these are technical amendments, but I hope that we
have also had the opportunity to explore a little more widely
some of what sits behind them. With that, I commend the
regulations to the Committee.
Question put and agreed to.
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