Sir Robert Buckland (South Swindon) (Con) It is a pleasure to
address the House in a debate on an issue that has great resonance
with and importance to many people and families across the
country—the continued detention of autistic people and people with
learning disabilities under the civil provisions of the Mental
Health Act 1983. I am grateful to the National Autistic Society and
Mencap for working with me in the run-up to the debate. Remember,
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Sir (South Swindon) (Con)
It is a pleasure to address the House in a debate on an issue
that has great resonance with and importance to many people and
families across the country—the continued detention of autistic
people and people with learning disabilities under the civil
provisions of the Mental Health Act 1983. I am grateful to the
National Autistic Society and Mencap for working with me in the
run-up to the debate.
Remember, these are people who have committed no offence. They
are not even alleged to have committed offences. They have been
detained for what is still defined as a mental disorder. They
have done nothing wrong. Here are some bald statistics relating
to the use of powers under the 1983 Act. At the end of November
2021, there were 2,085 people with autism or a learning
disability in in-patient units; 1,234 of them were autistic
people, 200 of whom were under 18—they were children. The average
length of detention is 5.4 years, some people having been
detained for more than 20 years. In September 2021 there were
3,620 reported instances of restrictive interventions, and 595 of
them involved children. Those interventions involved physical
and, very often, chemical restraint. Those are not the complete
figures, because there was data for only 31 out of 55 NHS
providers and four of 16 private providers, so the real figure
will be higher.
(Strangford) (DUP)
I congratulate the right hon. and learned Gentleman on bringing
forward this debate on an issue that is massive in his
constituency and mine. The number of detentions under the 1983
Act seems to decline with age, but there seem to be significantly
higher numbers of cases among children and young adults. Does he
agree that there is a better chance of rehabilitation and
wellness when mental health issues are dealt with properly from
as young an age as possible than when there is long-term
detention with no counselling or rehabilitation?
Sir
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. He has
a long-standing interest in autism issues, in Northern Ireland in
particular. He is right that if there is early intervention, more
can be done to prevent a lifelong condition such as autism
becoming a co-morbid mental health condition. I will explain that
in a little while.
Behind the statistics are real-life stories of people whose
lifelong conditions have led to the system, however
well-intentioned it might be, ascribing a lower value to their
quality of life. That implicit judgment, I believe, runs through
everything from the continued lumping together of autism and
learning disabilities with mental health conditions, which in
many cases is wholly out of date and inappropriate, to the
discriminatory and unjust application of “do not resuscitate”
guidance to people with these conditions. Those are abuses in
plain sight.
Furthermore, the profound sense that the system is, in effect,
making assumptions about the life of people with learning
disabilities in particular has been exacerbated by the use of
DNRs during the covid pandemic. Not only do we need to stop new
orders being issued inappropriately to people with learning
difficulties, but existing inappropriate DNRs need to be
retracted. I ask the Minister: when will the Government act on
the Care Quality Commission review recommendations about better
staff training and family involvement in decision making about
care and treatment?
It is no longer good enough for people with learning disabilities
to be discharged from hospital with a form in the bottom of their
bag, effectively having signed away their rights about the end of
their own life. That is what we are talking about; I cannot put
it more bluntly than that.
(Broxtowe) (Con)
I thank my right hon. and learned Friend for securing this
debate. We are heavily relying on hospitals to manage individuals
with complex needs, which costs the NHS thousands of pounds per
individual per week. If we invested more in care in the
community, perhaps using the coming health and social care levy,
we could prevent hurt or trauma to individuals and save money for
the NHS.
Sir
My hon. Friend is absolutely right about the waste of resources
that I am afraid underlies much of this. I shall come to some of
the figures, which are pretty shocking. He is right to highlight
the levy that is being introduced in April. It is imperative that
the £12 billion that we are told is being earmarked as part of
the £36 billion to be raised from the levy is actually used on
social care.
The worry we all have is that the money will be eaten up by
spending on the health backlog, and that there will be no audit
trail at all to make it possible to ensure that it is, in effect,
ring-fenced and used in social care. I put that big challenge to
Ministers. The Health Secretary knows my strong view; I was
writing about it in the national media on Sunday. We have to
really laser in on these issues.
The horror of Winterbourne View is still seared into my mind 11
years on, together with other instances of abuse. But in general,
we are not in this position because of malice or hostility
towards people with autism or a learning disability; we are here
because of indifference, frankly. It is all too easy to make the
assumption that because the person has been detained for their
own safety, the letter of the law has been followed and the
clinicians have given their opinion, that will just have to do.
That really is not good enough in this day and age.
Recent news coverage of the cases of Tony Hickmott and Patient A
has brought these issues into stark relief. I will briefly
mention Mr Hickmott’s case, which was highlighted by the media
just before Christmas. Ongoing legal proceedings mean that I must
limit my remarks, but I read reports that this gentleman has been
detained for more than 20 years under this system—nearly half his
entire life. That is deeply distressing for his family and should
be of grave concern to the rest of us.
Patient A’s case was reported in The Sunday Times just after new
year, the result of some excellent investigative journalism. He
has been confined for over four years so far in a secure
apartment at the Priory Hospital Cheadle Royal. That apartment—I
use the word advisedly—is the size of a large living room. He is
monitored by CCTV. His food and medication are passed through a
hatch. He is now 24 years of age. The story of his life leading
up to this incarceration is heartbreaking in itself but also
emblematic of failure. The interventions made exacerbated his
existing anxiety, creating a descending spiral of deterioration
in his health that has resulted in over-medication, more
restrictions and even poorer mental and physical health. We are
spending money on harming people rather than saving them.
(East Worthing and Shoreham) (Con)
It is so good to have my right hon. and learned Friend on the
Back Benches in some respects; he is such a champion of this
cause and is making a very important contribution. Does he agree
that it is a completely false economy not to be thinking smarter,
and lazy not to be able to let people out of NHS facilities where
there may be better community facilities and better working with
the families? It would, of course, mean a much better life for
the person involved as well. The chemical cosh that he just
referred to and the use of restraint, which in some places is
disproportionate, is a sign of failure, and that the person is
not being looked after appropriately. That is what needs to
change.
I should have declared my entry in the Register of Members’
Financial Interests at the beginning of this intervention.
Sir
My hon. Friend, who has long experience of this matter, having
served with distinction as Children’s Minister and as a
long-standing campaigner on these issues, makes a hugely
important point about the chemical cosh that is medication. I
think he and I agree that we are not here to single out or
criticise many dedicated care staff and NHS workers who do their
very best to care for and support in-patients. They deserve our
thanks; they are doing the day-to-day work. I am talking about
the system that allows this to happen—that allows, in effect, a
standing reproach to us all. This is 2022, not 1922.
There are two strands to the approach that we need. First, as the
hon. Member for Strangford () said, earlier and better interventions are needed to
prevent cases spiralling into crisis in the first place.
Secondly, better community-based alternatives to the continued
detention of in-patients are needed. It is my firm belief that
with the better commissioning of community support, the need for
recourse to detention would inevitably fall. That would create a
virtuous—rather than vicious—circle, which would benefit all.
There is not only a social, health or moral price being paid for
this failure, but a financial one. In 2015 the National Audit
Office estimated that, in the year 2012-13, the NHS spent £557
million on in-patient services for people with learning
disabilities whose behaviour could be challenging. More than half
a billion pounds was spent on services that harm people, and that
figure is from nearly 10 years ago. The cost now will be
considerably more. That speaks volumes about the failure of the
present system.
Although the Mental Health Act was reformed in 1983, it is, in
essence, a replication of a regime that was created under the
Mental Health Act 1959. That is a 60-year-old framework; to say
that it is out of date understates the argument.
(Bromley and Chislehurst)
(Con)
I am grateful to my right hon. and learned Friend for giving way,
and for the passion and knowledge that he brings to this topic.
He refers to out-of-date legislation and how things have moved
on. He will know from his experience as Justice Secretary that if
we thought that we were applying the same regimes in terms of
detention and use of restraint to people who had been convicted
of offences after the passing of 60 years, we would rightly be
outraged. Should we not be rightly outraged now that this is
being done to people who have committed no offence and have not
had the protection of due process that those going through the
justice system have?
Sir
I have good news, because it is Government policy to update the
Mental Health Act. That is the plan that I and others, when I was
in Cabinet, agreed on and I know that it is what the Minister
will speak about. Reforming the Mental Health Act is Government
policy because, goodness me, we have work to do. Between 2006 and
2016, the number of detentions rose by a staggering 40%. We owe
thanks to the work of people such as the outstanding Sir Simon
Wessely, whose independent review in 2018 gave the Government the
clear course that I know they are adopting and following.
I particularly welcome the disaggregation of autism and learning
disability from mental health in law and the end to their being
classed as a mental disorder under section 3 of the existing Act.
According to the Government’s policy, there has to be a
clinically established concurrent mental health condition before
detention can be allowed, and there will be a 28-day limit. All
that makes immense sense, and I particularly look forward to the
Government’s introducing a statutory duty to provide adequate
community-based services, such as supported housing. In the White
Paper that the Minister introduced before Christmas, we saw
really healthy and useful reference to supported housing. It is
my belief that, without that, we cannot create effective
community-based services.
We still do not have a fully clear picture of the current
commissioning landscape across England, but we know that people
are being left in NHS-funded detention, because the lack of
resources for local government means there just are not enough
local government-commissioned community services for people to go
home, back to their families and back to their local areas.
Legislative change cannot come soon enough, so I would be
extremely grateful if my hon. Friend the Minister could confirm
the Government’s intention to bring forward that legislation,
whether it will be first via the pre-legislative scrutiny process
and, if so, when we can expect its introduction.
As time is short, I want to speak briefly about the Transforming
Care agenda. We know that, when all agencies work together at the
same pace, it is excellent, but the trouble is that we still have
agencies dragging their heels or causing problems that mean
people are spending longer in detention than they need to. The
readmission of patients who are being discharged is another
depressing example of our failure to break the vicious cycle in
many cases.
We know what “good” looks like; we have the NHS England “Building
the Right Support” service model and National Institute for
Health and Care Excellence guidance. We know that there are
pockets of good practice that the Government are actively
promoting and supporting, but more needs to be done to join that
up. If we are to see these figures starting to come down,
consistent with the Government’s own priorities, the time for
action is now.
There are, therefore, two things that the Government can do. They
can not only bring forward the legislation, but fulfil their
pledge to add more substance to the strategies they have
outlined. The £74 million, pledged in the 2020 Budget to help
with what are known as the double running costs when people with
a learning disability or autism are discharged into the
community, is extremely welcome. I know there are funding
commitments in the NHS long-term plan to help the development of
community support. However, as the recent Health and Social Care
Committee inquiry noted, we still are not in the place we need to
be. We still do not have that level of support that will make the
discharge of patients a much more seamless and successful
process. I know that ending those perverse incentives and this
artificial division between the NHS and local government is part
of the integration agenda, and I look forward to the White Paper
that my hon. Friend will be publishing very soon, but I want
everything to be joined up, in a way I was acutely conscious of
when I was Justice Secretary.
I will end on this note: I was acutely conscious of the need for
greater speed when it came, for example, to the approval of the
recommendation of clinicians, which was the responsibility of my
Department. Prior to the onset of covid, I collaborated directly
with the then Health Secretary to jointly pursue the Mental
Health Act reform agenda. My abiding regret is that I was not
able to do more, and I want to say that I am sorry that I was not
able to do more, but here I am in my place asking my friends to
carry on the work, to pick up the ball and to take it further for
all the people we represent and their families. By calling this
debate and by making that direct request to Government to act, I
hope that together we can make the necessary changes and save
lives.
5.18pm
The Minister for Care and Mental Health ()
I take this opportunity to genuinely thank my right hon. and
learned Friend the Member for South Swindon (Sir ) for securing a debate on
this vitally important topic. Improving the care and treatment of
autistic people is something he has championed, particularly
through his commitment to reform of the Mental Health Act. I
thank him for his continued work on this matter, no matter where
he is sat. I give him my commitment that I share his
determination for change, and I will continue to work with him.
There is absolutely no place for poor-quality care for autistic
people or anybody with a learning disability in our society. The
system needs change.
I recently visited Norfolk to meet the families of those affected
by the tragedy that occurred at Cawston Park Hospital, which was
the subject of a previous Adjournment debate. I met the parents
of the young people who suffered and sadly died and heard at
first hand about the experience of people with autism and people
with Down’s syndrome in health and care settings, and it was
shocking. Such experience has too often fallen unacceptably short
of the standard of care that individuals and families—those
people who are the most vulnerable and often voiceless—should
rightly expect. It is truly awful to hear about such appalling
experiences.
We are taking action for children, young people and adults, for
people who have been in-patients for longer than they should, and
to prevent people from being admitted, even for a short time,
when they do not need to be. I welcome this opportunity to set
out the immediate and longer-term actions we are taking. They
include our planned Mental Health Act reforms, which will provide
the opportunity to change the legal framework and to reinforce
and underpin the changes we are making now. I cannot commit today
to a timetable for that, but the planning is well under way and I
will keep my right hon. and learned Friend informed.
To keep people safe now, all autistic people and people with a
learning disability must receive high-quality, safe care. That is
our first priority. We know that some people may require support
in a mental health hospital; when that is necessary, it should
have a clear therapeutic benefit, be the least restrictive
support possible, be close to home and be for the shortest
possible time. We will not tolerate instances of abuse or
poor-quality care.
To ensure that people are safe, all autistic people and people
with a learning disability in an in-patient setting now receive a
safe and wellbeing review. These reviews, which are led by NHS
England, are a priority and the majority will be completed by the
end of January. We also fully support the more robust approach
that the CQC is taking in increasing the amount of shorter,
unannounced inspections and closing hospitals that do not provide
a high-quality standard of care.
My right hon. and learned Friend mentioned people who are in
long-term segregation. There are about 100 of them and a couple
of cases were mentioned in the debate. Every single one of them
will receive independently chaired reviews of their care and
treatment. The reviews will consider how to move towards a less
restrictive or, ideally, community-based setting.
As part of a wider £31 million package to support discharge and
develop community support, we have provided funding for a senior
intervenors pilot. These independent experts will work to resolve
blockages in the path to discharge, where there can be
multidiscipline teams who basically do not agree or manage to
find a solution among themselves. The senior intervenors will
help to unblock things for those people in a long-term situation,
and move them towards a less restrictive setting and back into
the community, which is where we want people wherever
possible.
My hon. Friend the Member for Broxtowe () mentioned the need to build
and make sure we have the right support in the community. The
Government want to make sure that, wherever possible, autistic
people and people with a learning disability are able to lead
full lives in the community, close to their families, with the
right support in place to prevent crisis.
In the NHS long-term plan we committed to reduce the number of
autistic people and people with a learning disability who are
in-patients in mental health hospitals by 50% by the end of March
2024. Since 2015, we have achieved a 29% reduction, which is
equivalent to a reduction of around 800 in-patient beds—800
people—and means we need to close around 600 more to meet the
target. I am firmly committed to achieving that.
The building the right support programme is our national policy
to ensure that autistic people and people with a learning
disability are supported in the community, and more than £90
million of additional funding for community services and support
for discharges has been provided for 2021-22 to help to achieve
that. Joint action across organisations and systems is essential
to drive progress, so we are developing an action plan to outline
the steps that we and all our partners will take to deliver that
action with urgency, and we will publish it as soon as possible.
We also know that early diagnosis is key, as the hon. Member for
Strangford () mentioned, and that prevention and intervention at
an early stage are vital, so we are investing £2.5 million to
test and implement the most effective ways to reduce autism
diagnosis waiting times for children and young people in England.
Additionally, we are investing £600,000 in significantly
expanding an autism early identification pilot to at least 100
schools over the next three years. Those actions and others set
out in our all-age autism strategy, which was published in July,
should make a big difference.
I want to touch on the subject of “do not attempt CPR” decisions,
which hon. Members have mentioned. My right hon. and learned
Friend the Member for South Swindon mentioned the culture; we are
working to ensure that there is a culture of compassionate care
for autistic people and people with a learning disability that is
also of the highest quality. The Department has remained crystal
clear that it is unacceptable for DNACPR decisions to be applied
in a blanket fashion to any group of people.
We have also developed and trialled the Oliver McGowan mandatory
training in learning disability and autism for all health and
social care staff, working with Health Education England and
Skills for Care. The programme is backed by a £1.4 million
investment, and I think it will go a long way towards changing
the culture.
We want to end inappropriate detentions for autistic people and
people with a learning disability, and we are introducing
once-in-a-generation reforms to the Mental Health Act that will
be critical to achieving that. Under our proposed reforms, we
will limit the scope to detain autistic people or people with a
learning disability under section 3 of the Act. We want to
prevent the detention under section 3 of people who do not have a
co-occurring mental health condition; they simply have a learning
disability.
We want to ensure that the right services are in place, allowing
individuals to receive the best possible care in the community.
Our proposed reforms will create new duties for commissioners to
ensure an adequate supply of community services and ensure that
every local area understands and monitors the risk of crisis at
an individual level. This will transform our capability to
provide those services in the community and to keep people safe
in their community.
I thank all hon. Members for their contributions and thank my
right hon. and learned Friend again for securing this vital
debate. It is important that we continue to listen to people with
lived experience and to their families, most importantly, in
shaping and delivering high-quality care, both in in-patient
settings, where they still exist, and in the community. Having
heard some truly shocking experiences as Minister for Care and
Mental Health, I am grateful that the debate has given us an
opportunity to set out my personal commitment and to give a voice
to those people who, for too long, have not had one.
In addition to the work that the Government are undertaking now
and in the longer term, we must make sure that all autistic
individuals and people with other lifelong conditions are treated
with dignity and respect and are able to lead fulfilling lives in
their community. I am absolutely determined to see that happen,
and I look forward to working with my right hon. and learned
Friend; I know that he is determined, too. There should never be
an instance of people with a learning disability and autistic
people being treated as anything less than equal in our society.
He has my commitment that I will work with him to achieve
that.
Madam Deputy Speaker ( )
Before I put the Question, I am sure that the whole House will
wish to join me in congratulating the right hon. and learned
Member for South Swindon (Sir ) on his knighthood. [Hon.
Members: “Hear, hear.”] Congratulations, Sir Robert—I see that we
have quite a lot of Sir Roberts around.
Question put and agreed to.
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