Ruth Cadbury (Brentford and Isleworth) (Lab) I beg to move, That
this House has considered the Free Period Product Scheme for
Schools. Thank you, Ms Rees. Is the loop on? I could not hear you
very well because the loop was not on. As you probably will not be
speaking too much, I hope I will cope. Christina Rees (in the
Chair) We will sort that out now. I do apologise. Ruth Cadbury It
is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Ms Rees. The debate
concerns...Request free trial
(Brentford and Isleworth)
(Lab)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the Free Period Product Scheme for
Schools.
Thank you, Ms Rees. Is the loop on? I could not hear you very
well because the loop was not on. As you probably will not be
speaking too much, I hope I will cope.
(in the Chair)
We will sort that out now. I do apologise.
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Ms Rees. The
debate concerns the Government’s free period product scheme,
where period products are available in English schools. As Chair
of the all-party parliamentary group on period equality, I again
bring a debate. Until recently, we found the pages of Hansard
rather bare when it came to menstrual health. I believe the word
tampon was first used in this place in the 1980s, in relation to
an incident involving a customs officer. However, we have made
progress since I joined this place in 2015 and in more recent
years, when I brought a debate last year.
I welcome the chance today to talk about the Government’s scheme
for schools and colleges in England. I will start by describing
in a few words what it means to come on a period when in school.
The Minister will realise that it has been rather a long time
since that happened to me. Not all of these words apply to me,
but they are common emotions and feelings for youngsters in
school: unexpected, messy, embarrassing, shameful, bad back pain,
headaches, PMT, stress and unexplained strong emotions and,
overall, bloody.
When I applied for the debate, we did not know whether the
Government would extend the scheme or whether there would be any
changes or tweaks to it. We were very pleased on 26 November,
when we received the welcome news that the Government would
extend the scheme for 2022. There was a sigh of relief from
students, teachers and parents across the country.
The precursor to the current Government scheme was the red box
project, organised and delivered nationally by volunteers. Like
many MPs, I worked with our local organiser who ran the Hounslow
red box, led by Yeliz Kazim. She worked tirelessly, like many
across the country, to get red boxes into schools, so that
students could easily access free period products. I learned from
Yeliz that it was not only period products that young people were
asking for via their teachers. Yeliz also supplied spare
underwear, tights and deodorant in the boxes she supplied. She
had started to work with other organisations, such as youth clubs
and council and community settings, to ensure that period
products were available free in other settings.
(Strangford) (DUP)
I have always supported this campaign. I know that in Northern
Ireland, the local Education Minister is considering the matter,
off the back of a debate in the Northern Ireland Assembly last
week. There is an eagerness for local councils to play their
part. My own, Ards and North Down Borough Council, is part of
that. I commend the hon. Lady, and let her know that there is a
willingness and interest for this to happen in Northern Ireland
in the way she is indicating.
It is welcome to hear about what is happening in Northern
Ireland. I will later describe legislation that has been passed
in the Scottish Parliament as well.
As many groups and charities, such as Bloody Good Period, have
rightly said, that important work should not fall to the kindness
of charity. Thanks to the tireless work of activists such as
Amika George and of groups such as Free Periods, the school
scheme was introduced after much lobbying and campaigning.
Although we have made much progress in improving how we talk
about period poverty and menstrual health, I am aware that some
people still question why we need the scheme. People incorrectly
assume that tampons and pads are cheap, that women might need
only one a day or that they are easy to get—but certainly, when
pupils are supposed to be in school, it is not easy to go out to
the shops, even if there is a shop nearby.
Period poverty causes pupils to miss schooling. A report by phs
found that one in 14 girls said that
“they have missed schools as they could not afford or access
period products.”
A report published in July found that period poverty got worse in
the last year as the cost of living, loss of work and so on hit
many families. It also found that 35% of teenage girls said that
they had taken time off school because of their period, which was
a 7% increase on 2019. Some of that will have been due to period
pains or PMT, but poverty is a contributing factor. In that
survey, 11% said that they had stayed off school because they
could not afford period products—that figure was only 2% in the
2019 survey. The problem of poverty in accessing period products
is getting worse and is affecting children’s ability to attend
and remain in school.
Plan International UK, in its October report, estimated that
nearly 2 million girls in the UK missed school at some point
because of their period. It warned that there is a “toxic trio”
of issues fuelling period poverty: first, the lack of proper
education about periods; secondly, the stigma and shame around
menstruation; and thirdly, the cost of the products. We have
moved on since the distant days of my schooling, but we can do
much more.
On stigma and shame, when I talk about the issue I tried to avoid
the word “sanitary”, because it implies that having a period is a
dirty or unbecoming act, which of course it is not. Great work is
being done to tackle the stigma around periods in sport, which
has an impact on many students. The Blood, Sweat and No Fears
campaign raises awareness around sport and features powerful
testimony from many elite athletes.
Young people, not just girls, need to learn and be able to talk
about periods, which are a natural function and not something
shameful. Too many mothers, teachers and other adults do not talk
about periods and feel that they need to hide the facts, and too
many young women feel shamed when they are on their period.
There is also the issue of cost. In the past few months, I have
heard from many families locally how difficult it has been to
make ends meet with the £20-a-week cut in universal credit,
inflation, loss of work or a cut in hours, rising rents and
rising fuel prices. The cost of buying period products for those
who need them in the household adds to that—they cannot get away
from that cost.
The Government’s period product scheme has a part to play in the
awareness of periods, stigma and education. Having those products
available, talking about them and advertising them in the school
community is part of that and why they are needed. It provides an
opportunity to talk about periods among boys and girls, which is
important. The main advantage of the scheme, however, is that it
can make a significant difference to addressing period
poverty.
On the scheme, we welcome the fact that the Government have taken
over from the Red Box Project, a charity and a voluntarily run
scheme. I want as many schools as possible to sign up for the
Government’s scheme. I welcome the latest figures that show that
more than 70% of secondary schools have signed up, but 24% have
not. The lower sign-up rate of 41% among primary schools is
concerning, however. We know that many pupils could be having
their first period in primary school: as the years go on,
menstruation is starting at an earlier age, so these products are
absolutely essential. The higher level of ignorance—if you
like—in primary schools makes it even more important to have
these products available in those schools, even though only a
small percentage of their students need them.
The hon. Lady is making an excellent speech. Again, to give an
example from Northern Ireland, these products are available
through school nurses in the schools. Whenever pupils go to ask
for them, I think they need to be able to ask someone who
understands.
The hon. Gentleman makes an excellent point. We need to make this
easy and accessible, so that everybody knows who they can go to
and that they can talk in privacy, because it is not just, “Could
I have three pads please, miss?” It is about the staff member
being open to having a conversation if needed, particularly with
youngsters who have only just started having periods.
The other concern is the regional variations in the uptake of
this scheme. From 2020, it appears that the north-east has an
uptake of only 44%, compared with 50% in London. Although MPs can
and do play a role in encouraging schools to sign up—that is
something that we in the all-party parliamentary group do—I
appreciate that our powers are not limitless, and we can only go
so far in encouraging schools locally to sign up. I have heard
feedback that some schools in more affluent areas think that they
do not need to sign up to the scheme. Schools with lower numbers
of students on the pupil premium were less likely to sign up, but
that does not help those students who do need the service, and
anyway, this is not just about affordability: there is a shame
issue. We still hear of girls being unable to ask their mothers
for the money to buy pads or tampons, or not knowing what to do
or where to get them, so that is another reason why all schools
should have these products available. I urge every school to sign
up to this scheme and ensure that all pupils can access free
products. We do not deny schools the chance to distribute free
condoms on the basis of the school being in an affluent area, so
I very much hope that all schools sign up.
What can the Government do to address these uptake levels, in
addition to what they have already done? First, they can make it
as straightforward and easy as possible for schools to access and
operate this scheme. School staff have faced a huge strain from
covid-19, and even before the virus hit, they had enough on their
plate. If the Government could make it easier by making this
scheme an opt-out one, rather than opt-in, that would really
help. The other issue is communication: take-up is encouraged
through occasional emails from the Department and some pieces on
social media, but more could be done, including in those areas
where sign-up rates have been lower. The APPG is happy to assist
the Department in doing so.
The second issue I want to address is that of the products
available in the scheme. Schools can currently order and receive
products from Public Health England depending on their budget,
and I understand that as some products are more expensive,
schools naturally spend their budget on cheaper items if they get
a bigger quantity. However, as with nappies, we know that the
cheaper the product, the less useful it is. I remember that from
my days—I will not go into detail; Members do not want to know.
Actually, they do want to know, because they need to know that
the cheaper product lasts less long and creates more mess.
We should also consider allowing a greater range of products—such
as we had in the original Red Box scheme in Hounslow, based on
feedback from young people and teachers—such as tights, pants,
deodorants and so on. I would also welcome more use of reusable
products, which of course are expensive, such as mooncups and
even washable pads. Washable pads are really simple to make, but
because they are still a minority product, as it were, they are
expensive to buy. If they were available through the scheme, it
would save young people the costs of buying single-use products
every month, not to mention the environmental impact that
single-use products have.
There is also the question of the scheme’s long-term future. Both
this year and last, we have had to wait until late in the year to
find out if the scheme was going to be continued or if it was
going to be scaled down. I am sure it would provide schools and
colleges with much-needed certainty if the scheme could be put on
a more secure footing, and we did not face this cliff edge every
year.
Finally, I hope that the Government do not think of this as a
tick-box way of tackling period inequality—that, because of this
scheme, the issue is solved. It is much more complex than that.
The toxic trio of low awareness, discrimination and cost needs a
more ambitious programme. I am proud of the amazing work of
, the Labour MSP in the
Scottish Parliament, who fought for so long to see the pioneering
Period Products (Free Provision) Scotland Bill pass into law. In
the end, it was passed unanimously. It is a global first, as it
mandates local authorities to provide free period products, which
means that the roll-out will extend beyond schools and into
places such as town halls, leisure centres, community settings
and other public sites. This is the type of bold and ambitious
policy that will make a huge difference to so many young
people—and not just young people.
We know that period inequality does not just impact pupils. The
poverty issue affects migrants, refugees and many marginalised
people. Whenever I buy something for a food box or donate things
to asylum seekers living on £8 a week, I always include period
products. The scheme is a welcome and much-needed step to ensure
that all of society is tackling period poverty. I have some
questions for the Minister—I can give him my sheet of paper if it
helps. Will the Government look at making this an opt-out rather
than an opt-in scheme for schools? Will the Minister tell us what
is being done to improve the take-up rate generally and in
certain regions? Will the Government improve communications with
schools about the scheme? Will they look at the products
available in the scheme, so that they can be expanded to include
pants, tights and other multi-use products? Will they look at
putting the scheme on a more permanent or long-term footing? Will
the Minister look at adjusting the scheme so that regional and
local inequalities are addressed, such as by using pupil premium
numbers? Will the Government look at the Act in Scotland and
consider what more can be done to tackle period inequality?
Parliament and Government have become much better at talking
about, and raising awareness of, menstrual health, and we are
making progress. None the less, the figures over the past year
show that period poverty is getting worse and that the impact on
schooling is getting greater. We cannot afford to continue with a
business-as-usual model. We need a bigger and better approach to
ensure that no student misses school because of period
inequality.
16:17:00
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Education ()
It is pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Ms Rees,
especially as it is my first Westminster Hall debate as a
Minister for the Department for Education.
First, let me congratulate the hon. Member for Brentford and
Isleworth () on securing this very
important debate. She has been a passionate campaigner on this
issue for a long time. She articulated the case very
eloquently—far better than I ever could—for this scheme and the
need for it. I will try to cover as many of the points and
questions that she raises but, as ever, I am happy to meet her at
a later date to discuss the scheme in detail.
Let me begin with the point that she made at the beginning of her
speech about stigma and taboo, because it is very important. We
all have a part to play in this, and I will come on to it later
in my contribution. The first thing to say is that we are
committed to providing a world-class education, training and care
for everyone. No young person in our country should be held back
from reaching their potential because of their gender or
background. There may be people listening and watching this
debate thinking, “What does this middle-aged bloke know or care
about period products?” But I do care passionately about this
issue. I am passionate about ensuring that women and girls are
supported in education and beyond.
The hon. Lady may not know this, but I was one of the architects
of the tampon tax fund. Some £90 million has gone to women’s
health charities as a result of that scheme, and now VAT has been
removed from products. I am also the father of two young girls,
one of whom will soon—very soon, I think—be in this position, so
I have a personal interest, too. I want my girls and every girl
in this country never to have to worry about period products
being available in their school, and I want them to feel
comfortable speaking about that with their teachers, peers and, I
hope, their parents, and indeed their father.
As the hon. Lady rightly pointed out, we launched the period
product scheme in January 2020, and I am delighted that we are
extending it until August 2022, the end of the summer term. She
made this point clearly, but I emphasise that the scheme has
significant benefits. Schools and colleges can continue to use
the scheme, and all will receive new spend cap allocations for
the remainder of the academic year. That will be announced on 4
January. The hon. Lady pushes me to announce a further extension.
All I can say at this stage is that any further extensions or new
contracts will be announced in due course. I want to ensure—I
think the hon. Lady knows how passionate I am about this subject
and how committed the Government are to it—that schools and
colleges are given as much notice as possible in order that they
can place orders.
The Minister will be aware that Northern Ireland Education
Minister said:
“No-one should miss out on their education because they cannot
afford or access these essential products. Providing free
products will help pupils manage their periods confidently at
school, reduce anxiety and stress and enable students to focus on
their learning.”
Northern Ireland’s three-year, £2.6 million scheme will also
tackle the lack of understanding and the stigma to which hon.
Member for Brentford and Isleworth () referred. That might be an
incentive for the Minister to try to follow Northern Ireland.
The hon. Gentleman is right, and all the points he raises are
fair and accurate. We work closely, particularly at official
level, with devolved Administrations to develop schemes of this
nature, to make sure that, as much as possible, there is some
synergy. In September this year, Northern Ireland launched a
three-year pilot scheme to address period poverty in schools,
which we very much welcome. I suppose it is telling that all
Governments across our United Kingdom are aligned on this issue.
We recognise this need. I have to pay credit to the hon. Lady and
the APPG for driving this agenda.
We are absolutely clear that organisations should have products
available should learners need them. Many schools and colleges
have benefited from charities over recent years, as the hon. Lady
rightly points out, and we very much thank those charities for
their support. Schools and colleges do not have to use the
national scheme to purchase products. If they prefer to use an
alternative route, they can of course do so, although costs are
only met through the use of the Department’s scheme. With that in
mind, our supplier, phs, will proactively contact organisations
that have accessed the scheme so far. Organisations that have
already ordered products should continue to use their existing
account and log-in details. Schools will potentially be listening
to the debate, so I refer them to phs’s contact details and more
information about the scheme being clearly set out in guidance on
gov.uk.
The hon. Member for Brentford and Isleworth rightly referenced
take-up. Since the period product scheme launched in January
2020, it has been fantastic to see how many schools and colleges
have used it. Importantly, the scheme remained in operation
throughout the partial school and college closures as a result of
the pandemic in 2020 and 2021. We had fantastic examples of
organisations ensuring that young people continued to receive
that support, even when they were learning from home. The hon.
Lady referenced these figures, and it is really encouraging that
76% of secondary schools and 79% of colleges ordered products
from the scheme during 2020. We continue to encourage those who
have not yet accessed the scheme to do so. It is really important
that they do, and that they recognise that that support is there.
We intend to publish updated statistics from the scheme early
next year. Although I cannot say much about that, I hope, I think
and am confident and optimistic that the hon. Lady will be
pleased when those new figures are published. She rightly raises
the take-up of primary schools. I take up her offer to meet at a
later date to discuss some of her ideas to improve that.
The hon. Lady also rightly referenced the environment. We
continually monitor the ways in which we can make our scheme and
others like it more environmentally friendly, such as by setting
a minimum order value based on the organisation’s budget—for an
average secondary school, that is about £1,500—in order to limit
deliveries and reduce traffic and all those things. Importantly,
we continue to include a range of sustainable and environmentally
friendly products for schools and colleges to select, as I think
the hon. Lady would hope. Our supplier reports that, over the
past few months—I suspect driven in part by COP26—orders for
environmentally friendly products increased significantly in the
weeks up to and after COP26.
The hon. Lady rightly pushed me on range. Range is important, and
she has raised the issue with me in private. I am looking very
closely at additional period products, such as period pants, that
we could potentially include in the product range for 2022. There
are limitations as to exactly what we can include in the current
contract, but I certainly commit to the hon. Lady that I will
take this issue away and explore what further products we could
include in the scheme.
Many of the reusable products, such as period pants and period
pads, are made by very small SMEs. That is a different kettle of
fish for the Department from having a single big contract with a
major supplier. I hope the Minister will consider that
opportunity, even though it might be an administrative burden of
a different type for the Department.
I certainly will do that. One advantage of working with phs is
that it has that capability and national reach, as well as the
ability to procure at a local level.
The hon. Lady rightly touched on stigma and taboo, which I
mentioned earlier. I think we do need to talk about periods. A
vital element of the scheme’s success is ensuring that learners
are aware that period products are available when they need them
in their school or college. It can be challenging for some
schools and colleges to communicate about this, especially if
teachers and students find it difficult to talk openly about
periods. Periods are a natural process, but too often they are
treated as a taboo subject. I remember what it was like when I
was a pupil at school: they were very much something that was not
talked about.
We are taking action to tackle that through the new health
education curriculum, which became compulsory for state-funded
schools in England in 2020. Our statutory guidance insists that
both boys and girls should be taught the key facts about the
menstrual cycle, including what is an average period, the range
of period products, and the implications for emotional and
physical health. We have developed a “changing adolescent body”
teacher training module, which will very much help in that
regard. I desperately want teachers to feel confident in talking
to students about this issue to tackle the stigma around
menstruation.
Beyond the health education curriculum content, we have statutory
guidance that directs schools to make adequate and sensitive
arrangements to help ensure that girls prepare for and manage
periods, including through requests for period products. I think
that will make a real difference. Our user insight shows that
even small changes, such as using the term “period products”—I
have been very careful to use it, as did the hon. Lady—as opposed
to “sanitary products”, help to shift the conversation away from
any suggestion that periods are in some way unhygienic, which of
course they are not; they are an entirely natural process.
I will touch briefly on ordering and distribution. This is a
matter that mostly affects girls. Fundamentally, no girls should
miss out on their education because of their period. Our scheme
helps young people to go about their daily lives without getting
caught out. It is not just about period poverty; it is about not
being caught out. That is not just about pupils; it is also about
teachers, who sometimes come on their periods unexpectedly,
forget to bring products in with them or cannot afford the
products they need. We have the online portal, but I am keen to
work with the hon. Lady on how we can improve the process and
ensure that more schools access this provision.
I am conscious that there are lots more questions and I would
like to answer them. I am very happy to meet the hon. Lady at a
later date to do so. This issue mostly affects women and girls,
but it is important that we are all comfortable discussing it. I
want more people in this House and in schools and colleges up and
down the country to discuss this issue, so that it is not a taboo
and so that we take the stigma out of it. My message to girls and
young women up and down the country is this: please do not ever
miss out on your education because of your period. Make sure your
school or college signs up to our period products scheme, and
that you are able to make the most of the continuation of this
fantastic scheme. I conclude by thanking the hon. Lady and the
hon. Member for Strangford () for their contributions, and wishing all within the
House a very merry Christmas.
(in the Chair)
I wish you all a merry Christmas.
Question put and agreed to.
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