The following Statement was made in the House of Commons on Monday
15 November. “Madam Deputy Speaker, with your permission I should
like to make a Statement on the United Nations Climate Change
Conference, better known as COP 26, which took place in the
magnificent city of Glasgow over the past two weeks. It was the
biggest political gathering of any kind ever held in the United
Kingdom. One hundred and ninety-four countries were represented. We
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The following Statement was made in the House of Commons on
Monday 15 November.
“Madam Deputy Speaker, with your permission I should like to make
a Statement on the United Nations Climate Change Conference,
better known as COP 26, which took place in the magnificent city
of Glasgow over the past two weeks. It was the biggest political
gathering of any kind ever held in the United Kingdom. One
hundred and ninety-four countries were represented. We had around
120 Heads of State and Heads of Government, 38,000 accredited
delegates, and countless tens of thousands more in the streets,
parks and venues outside.
It was a summit that many people predicted would fail, and a
summit, I fear, that some quietly wanted to fail. Yet it was a
summit that proved the doubters and the cynics wrong, because COP
26 succeeded not just in keeping 1.5 alive, but in doing
something that no UN climate conference has ever done before by
uniting the world in calling time on coal. In 25 previous COPs,
all the way back to Berlin in 1995, not one delivered a mandate
to remove so much as a single lump of coal from one power station
boiler. For decades, tackling the single biggest cause of carbon
emissions proved as challenging as eating the proverbial
elephant—it was just so big that nobody knew quite where to
start. In Glasgow, we took the first bite. We have secured a
global commitment to phasing down coal. As John Kerry pointed
out, we cannot phase out coal without first phasing it down, as
we transition to other, cleaner energy sources. We also have, for
the first time, a worldwide recognition that we will not get
climate change under control as long as our power stations are
consuming vast quantities of the sedimentary super-polluter that
is coal. That alone is a great achievement, but we have not just
signalled the beginning of the end for coal; we have ticked our
boxes on cars, cash and trees as well.
The companies that build a quarter of the world’s automobiles
have agreed to stop building carbon emission vehicles by 2035,
and cities from São Paulo to Seattle have pledged to ban them
from their streets. We have pioneered a whole new model—an
intellectual break- through—that sees billions in climate
finance, development bank investment and so forth being used to
trigger trillions from the private sector to drive the big
decarbonisation programmes in countries such as South Africa. We
have done something that absolutely none of the commentators saw
coming, by building a coalition of more than 130 countries to
protect up to 90% of our forests around the world—those great
natural soakers of carbon.
None of this was a happy accident or inevitability. The fact that
we were there at all, in the face of a global pandemic, is in
itself the result of a vast and complex effort involving
countless moving parts. Right until the very end, there was the
real prospect that no agreement would be reached. What has been
achieved has come about only thanks to month after month of
concerted British diplomacy—the countless meetings; the
innumerable phone calls; the banging of heads at the United
Nations General Assembly, the Petersberg dialogue, President
Biden’s climate summit, the Security Council, the G7 and the
G20—and the setting of several examples by the UK, because again
and again the task of our negotiators was made easier by the fact
that the UK was not asking anyone to do anything that we are not
doing ourselves.
We have slashed our use of coal so much that our last two
coal-fired power stations will go offline for good in 2024. We
have more than doubled our climate finance, providing vital
support for poor and vulnerable nations around the world. We have
made a legally binding commitment to reach net zero—the first
major economy to do so. We have set a date at which hydro- carbon
internal combustion engines will reach the end of the road. We
have shown the world that it is possible to grow an economy while
cutting carbon, creating markets for clean technology, and
delivering new green jobs that reduce emissions and increase
prosperity.
Every one of those achievements was not just great news for our
country and our planet, but another arrow in the quiver of our
fantastic team in Glasgow—a team led by the COP 26 President, my
right hon. Friend the Member for Reading West (). From the moment that he
picked up the COP reins, he has been absolutely tireless in his
efforts to secure the change that we need. Although I am pretty
sure that what he really needs now is a well-earned break, I do
not think that any of us here is going to be able to hold him
back as he sets off pushing countries to go further still, and
ensuring that the promises made in Glasgow are delivered and not
diluted.
But success has many parents, so I want to say a huge thank you
to the officials—in our own COP unit, in Downing Street and
across government, in UK embassies around the world and at the
United Nations—who pulled out all the stops to make the event
work and to shepherd through the agreements that have been
reached. I also thank everybody on the ground at the Scottish
Event Campus in Glasgow—security, catering, transport, the
relentlessly cheery volunteers, the police from across the whole
country who kept everybody safe from harm, the public health
authorities who kept us safe from Covid—and everyone in the
Scottish Government. Above all, I want to say a big, big thank
you to the people of Glasgow, who had to put up with so much
disruption in their city and who welcomed the world all the same.
I say to them: we could not have done it without you.
Is there still more to do? Well, of course there is. I am not for
one moment suggesting that we can safely close the book on
climate change. In fact, I can think of nothing more dangerous
than patting ourselves on the back and telling ourselves that the
job is done—because this job will not be complete until the whole
world has not only set off on the goal to reach net zero but
arrived at that destination—a goal that, even with the best of
intentions from all actors, cannot be achieved overnight. While
COP 26 has filled me with optimism about our ability to get
there, I cannot now claim to be certain that we will, because we
have seen some countries that really should know better dragging
their heels on their Paris commitments. But if—and it is still a
massive if—they make good on their pledges, then I believe that
Glasgow will be remembered as the place where we secured a
historic agreement and the world began to turn the tide. Before
Paris, we were on course for 4 degrees of warming. After Paris,
that number fell to a still catastrophically dangerous 3 degrees.
This afternoon, after the Glasgow climate pact, it stands close
to 2 degrees. It is still too high—the numbers are still too hot,
the warming still excessive—but it is closer than we have ever
been to the relative safety of 1.5 degrees, and now we have an
all-new road map to help us get there.
Aristotle taught us that virtue comes not from reasoning and
instruction but from habit and from practice. So the success of
the Glasgow climate pact lies not just in the promises but in the
move that the whole world has now made from setting abstract
targets to adopting the nuts-and-bolts programme of work to meet
those targets and to reduce CO2 emissions. We are now talking
about the how rather than the what, and getting into a habit of
cutting CO2 that is catching on not just with Governments and
businesses but with billions of people around the world. It is
for that reason that I believe that COP 26 in Glasgow has been a
success and that 1.5 is still alive. That is something I believe
that every person in our United Kingdom can and should take
immense pride in, and I commend this Statement to the House.”
18:42:00
(Lab)
My Lords, in line with the arrangements, the Statement made in
the Commons yesterday is not repeated by the Leader, but I think
most Members will have heard what the Prime Minister had to say
in his enthusiasm for the agreement.
The world came together in Glasgow for what was the most
important summit the UK has ever hosted. Future generations will
look back on COP 26 as a time when we either met the moment or
missed the opportunity. We add our thanks to all those involved
in the organisation and planning of the summit—and to the
residents of Glasgow, who, despite the disruption, welcomed
visitors from all over the world into their city and their
homes.
(LD) [V]
Can you hear me?
(Lab)
There seems to be some disruption; I do not know whether we are
being haunted. If the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, could mute,
that might be helpful—just on this occasion, I hasten to add.
This is the decisive decade for tackling the climate emergency.
Although we better understand the seriousness of the issue, the
real threat to progress is no longer denial but delay.
For film fans—bear with me on this—when Rick said the immortal
words to Ilsa in “Casablanca”, “We’ll always have Paris”, he
could not have imagined how apt they would be, 80 years later.
The Paris summit in 2015 built an international alliance to limit
global warming to 1.5 degrees. The Prime Minister says in the
Statement that COP 26 succeeded not just in keeping that 1.5
degrees target alive but in going further. I hope and want his
optimism to be justified, but it feels more like the 1.5 degrees
target is on life support. Meeting it would mean halving global
emissions by 2030. The challenge for COP 26—so that we would
always have Paris—was to close the gap between that aspiration
and the reality of the pledges made. If Rick and Ilsa could do
it, so can we. But did we?
We have to be honest about what has been achieved. Progress has
been modest. We saw encouraging agreements on methane,
deforestation, and the sales of petrol and diesel cars. Too
often, however, the real delivery that will make a difference
will come too late. According to the Climate Action Tracker, the
pledges made at Glasgow for 2030, even if fully implemented,
represent less than 25% of the ambition required. Rather than
limiting warming to 1.5 degrees, we are now on track for a
devastating 2.4 degrees rise. That is not just a number: it
really matters. It could lead to billions of people facing
extreme heatwaves, millions forced to leave their homes, and
increased threats to both the natural wonders of the world and
overall security. The Prime Minister kicked off the conference by
saying that it was “one minute to midnight” on the doomsday
clock. Can the Leader tell the House what time it is now, and
whether we will still have Paris?
For years, coal has been the elephant in the room at these
summits, so having an explicit reference in the agreement for the
first time is really important. Who could not have been moved by
Alok Sharma’s emotional reaction to that last-minute change to
“phase down”? That really illustrates that hopes were cruelly
dashed, despite the Prime Minister’s approval in the Statement.
The raw emotion that we saw from was also palpable among the
Pacific Islanders. For many, climate change is genuinely
existential, so even the announcement that 190 countries and
organisations had agreed a timetable to end the use of coal does
not bear scrutiny. Of those 190, only 46 were actually countries,
of which 23 were new signatories and 10 do not even use coal. It
is a coalition that includes NatWest and the national grid but
not China, the United States or India.
There then came climate finance. It is a moral plight on
developing nations that the 2009 commitment to provide $100
billion a year to emerging economies still has not been
delivered; it will not be until 2023. That failure to deliver is
self-defeating because it damages trust and prevents a
high-ambition international coalition being built.
With his now typical overexuberance, the Prime Minister lauded
the net-zero commitments made. Yet Saudi Arabia, for example, is
still increasing oil production, despite its 2060 net-zero claim,
and Australia will not even legislate for its 2050 net-zero
target. We all know the importance of trade deals, but will the
Leader explain why the Government dropped the Paris temperature
commitment from the trade deal that we now have with
Australia?
I had hoped that the Statement would refer to Thérèse Coffey’s
welcome boast at the summit of the UK being
“the first country to legally require pension trustees to assess
and publish the financial risks from climate change”.
I am sorry that it was not in the Statement, but the Leader of
the House may recall that it was a Labour-led amendment in your
Lordships’ House, supported across this House, that secured that
historic commitment. We are pleased that we were able to be
helpful, so that the Government could boast about that
achievement at COP.
For the next 12 months, we have the COP presidency, and that
gives us a key leadership responsibility. But the Government’s
ability to step up and deliver is called into question by the
Climate Change Committee’s recent report to Parliament, which
said that the Government had been
“too slow to follow its climate promises with delivery”.
We cannot just put climate policy in a separate box: all
government policies need to be linked to climate commitments,
including trade deals. Yet Rishi Sunak’s Budget failed to mention
climate change; it did not secure the necessary green investment,
but it did give a tax break for domestic flights. That we were
the only G7 country to cut overseas aid when seeking
international co-operation on climate clearly damaged trust at
COP.
When we wanted to focus on the summit issues and the climate
emergency, many of us found it very difficult to watch the Prime
Minister seeking to assure the world’s media that the UK was not
corrupt, following his political shenanigans away from the
summit. It was not exactly Mr Johnson’s finest hour.
Looking forward, I hope that the Leader is able to update us
today on how Ministers can get a grip, reorder their priorities
and invest in the green recovery. Can she give us an assurance
that the net-zero test will be applied to all future decisions?
Given what was said at COP 26, what is the Government’s renewed
plan for phasing out fossil fuels, including rewriting the
planning framework to rule out coal and say no to the Cambo oil
field?
In conclusion, there was some welcome progress at COP 26 but it
could have, and should have, achieved far more. Real action, not
more rhetoric, must now follow, because the world just cannot
wait any longer.
(LD)
My Lords, I agree with the Prime Minister that those who thought
that COP 26 would be a failure have been proved wrong. There were
agreements on forests, methane, cars and finance, and there is
undoubtedly some momentum among Governments and the private
sector to move more quickly than previously.
clearly worked extremely hard
to achieve even more substantive progress, and he and his team
deserve our thanks for all their efforts. By contrast, the Prime
Minister seems to have played no concerted role at any point over
the last two years. As the noble Baroness, Lady Smith, said, his
second visit to COP seemed to consist only of a press conference
dominated by the question of whether the UK, under his watch, is
now a corrupt country.
The Statement itself demonstrates the Prime Minister’s addiction
to hyperbole. The world, he says, is “calling time on coal.”
Really? When is that time? The declaration on coal is positive
but, as it stands, is consistent with India and China continuing
to use very large amounts of coal for decades ahead, decades
which the world simply does not have. The Prime Minister says, we
have
“ticked our boxes on cars, cash and trees.”
I fear that, for him, that is exactly what we have done: enough
to enable him to claim that a success has been achieved, with no
recognition that the agreements in these areas, although very
welcome, are partial and will need continuing global pressure to
achieve their stated goals.
As the dust settles on the conference, the key questions in every
sector contributing to climate change are, “How do we build on
the progress of COP 26?” and, “What role can the UK play?” I will
concentrate on just three areas: finance, China, and the UK’s own
carbon reduction strategy.
On finance, it is important that companies set targets and keep
to them and that we do not facilitate the funding of
climate-threatening activities. On the former, can the noble
Baroness confirm what carbon reduction plans the UK will require
companies listed in the UK to set in future, and what sanctions
there will be to ensure that they are fulfilled? Does she agree
that choking off finance for new fossil fuel exploration and
development is potentially crucial? If so, will the Government
commit to banning new stock exchange listings of fossil fuel
companies and funds? Will the Government also press for a change
in the capital adequacy rules, so that they reflect the climate
change risks attached to lending by banks to fossil fuel
companies? Does she accept that this could in effect price out
the viability of such loans in future?
On China, the Prime Minister has expressed his frustration that
they did not make further commitments at COP 26. He rightly
accepts that he is not in a position to tell President Xi what to
do, but there seems to have been a retreat in the diplomatic
resources and effort put into climate change diplomacy, not just
with China but globally. China’s stock has been weakened in the
eyes of the island states, and much of the developing world, by
their unwillingness to move more quickly. Surely this is
something we should be tapping into via our Diplomatic Service to
encourage those countries to put pressure on China, which in the
past has so assiduously sought their votes at the UN and in other
international bodies. Will the diplomatic resources devoted to
climate change be increased to allow this to happen?
Domestically, the Government’s policy, despite the targets, is
characterised by a lack of consistency and ambition. Will the
Government now make it clear that they oppose any further coal or
oil extraction in this country? Will they up their game on
insulating homes and installing heat pumps? Will they give real
impetus to developing working carbon capture and storage schemes,
which have been promised for so long but not delivered? Will they
stop doing counterproductive things, such as the reduction in air
passenger duty?
The Prime Minister, quoting Aristotle in his Statement, says
that
“virtue comes ... from habit and practice”
and implies that he favours virtue, at least in our approach to
climate change. Will he therefore heed his own, or rather
Aristotle’s, words, cut out the hyperbole and more assiduously
practise what he preaches?
The Lord Privy Seal () (Con)
I thank the noble Baroness and the noble Lord for their comments.
I am slightly disappointed, although, to be fair, the noble
Baroness did highlight that much progress had been made. I think
we have been very clear that we did not reach all the targets
that we wanted to reach, but it is a misrepresentation of COP to
say that we did not make some significant progress. The Glasgow
climate pact was a historic agreement, the gap in ambition has
narrowed and we now have net-zero commitments for over 90% of the
world’s economy, up from just 30% two years ago.
COP has kept 1.5 degrees alive. I completely accept the noble
Baroness’s point that we did not get as far as we wanted, but the
combination of net-zero targets, enhanced 2030 emission-reduction
commitments and agreed action in key sectors, all underpinned by
the rules, systems and support agreed in Glasgow, will
significantly reduce emissions by 2030 and can put the world on
track for below two degrees. I totally accept, as does the Prime
Minister, and indeed , that there now needs to be a
concerted effort and delivery by all countries. We are not on
track for 1.5 degrees at the moment, but that is one reason why
COP 26 agreed that countries will return next year with stronger
emission reduction targets for 2030, so that we can keep the
momentum going and try to get back on track.
So countries have agreed to return next year with their new
targets. This will be combined with a yearly political round
table to consider a global progress report and a leaders’ summit.
The pact creates a new UN programme to work with countries to
scale up their emission reduction targets, and these will report
back next year. Following this COP, a yearly report from the
UNFCCC, which was previously conducted every five years, will
give a clearer picture of countries’ latest targets and how they
are going to close the emissions gap. The noble Lord talked, for
instance, about pressure on China. All these actions are aimed at
shining the spotlight on all countries and globally, and helping
us continue to move forward.
One thing that neither the noble Baroness nor the noble Lord
mentioned, but which it is important to mention, is that the
Paris rulebook—the guidelines on how the Paris Agreement is to be
delivered—was completed after six years of discussion. These
guidelines are an important step forward in transparency and
holding countries to account for their targets.
The noble Baroness and the noble Lord rightly talked about coal.
We have been quite clear that it was disappointing that some
countries wanted softer language than perhaps we would have
liked. However, I still maintain that this was the first time
that a pact has mentioned coal power and fossil fuels. They were
referenced in a COP text and were agreed by all the countries
involved. Some 65 countries have now committed to phasing out
coal, including four of the world’s top 20 coal power-generating
countries: South Korea, Indonesia, Vietnam and Poland. All major
coal-financing countries have committed to end international coal
finance by the end of 2021. We also saw a significant commitment
of the G20 countries in that regard, which included China, the
USA and India, which can have an immediate impact in the
Asia-Pacific region.
The noble Lord asked about the Chancellor’s announcement. He set
out plans for the UK to be the world’s first net-zero aligned
financial centre, with new requirements for UK financial
institutions and listed companies to publish net-zero transition
plans that detail how they will adapt and decarbonise as the UK
moves towards a net-zero economy by 2050, and further work and
publications will come on that side of things.
Both the noble Lord and the noble Baroness rightly mentioned the
$100 billion climate finance target. Again, we have said that we
deeply regret the fact that this target was not met in 2020 as
originally committed to, but the plan does show that the goal
will be met by 2023 at the latest and continues on a rising
trajectory to 2025. We are increasingly hopeful of meeting, or
coming close to meeting, the goal by 2022, although I accept that
that is obviously still two years out. It has been important that
95% of the major developed country climate finance providers have
come forward during COP with increased multi-year climate finance
commitments, with some doubling or even quadrupling their climate
finance.
We welcome Australia’s commitment to net zero by 2050. I can
assure the noble Baroness that our trade deal with Australia will
include a substantive chapter on climate change, which reaffirms
our joint commitment to upholding our obligations under the Paris
Agreement, including limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees. That
goes further than many previous trade agreements.
Domestic aviation, which both the noble Lord and the noble
Baroness mentioned, accounts for less than 1% of the UK’s total
emissions in 2019. We have announced, alongside the announcements
in the Budget, a new ultra-long-haul ban to align more closely
with our environmental objectives. We are also investing £180
million in a competition to support the development of plants for
sustainable aviation fuel in the UK.
The noble Baroness asked about the Cambo field. That proposal is
being scrutinised by independent regulators, and no decision has
yet been taken, but the UK was the first G7 country to agree a
landmark deal to support the oil and gas industry’s transition to
clean green energy by 2050 while supporting 40,000 jobs. The
reason we were able to bring people together and take these steps
forward is that we are a world leader in this area. We are
leading by example and we will continue to lead by example. While
we did not achieve everything that we wanted at COP, it has been
a major step forward for the world.
19:01:00
(Con)
My Lords, the oceans play a unique role in regulating our
climate. Unless we take unprecedented action to restore and
protect the oceans, none of the shared goals announced at COP can
be met. Can my noble friend give an indication of the progress
made at COP 26 on ensuring that oceans play a stronger role than
they are currently able to play in regulating our climate? It is
essential.
(Con)
I thank my noble friend. The UK presidency marked Ocean Action
Day at COP, championing a call for action to protect and restore
ocean health and resilience. For instance, more than 100
countries have now signed up to protect at least 30% of the
global ocean by 2030. My noble friend is obviously very heavily
involved in this work and will continue to lead international
action in this area.
(GP)
My Lords, like the noble Lord, , I was surprised that the Prime
Minister rather bravely referred to Aristotelian virtue in the
Statement. Four essential characteristics of virtue, according to
Aristotle, are prudence, temperance, courage and justice. There
is no provision in the Glasgow agreement for loss and damage
payments—reparations for the fact that the global south is
already suffering deadly horrendous damage because of the
emissions of the global north. The Statement says that will push countries to go
further. Will the UK lead in putting in funds for loss and
damage, as Scotland has already done, reflecting the fact that
the most vulnerable nations made it very clear at COP that they
expect this to be fully sorted out at Sharm el-Sheikh?
(Con)
I am surprised that the noble Baroness did not realise that this
was, in fact, the first COP decision that included a position on
loss and damage, which is a recognition of how seriously
developed countries are taking their obligations. The Glasgow
dialogue was launched better to co-ordinate financial support for
extreme impacts, and it agreed that there would be a dialogue
between parties, relevant organisations and stakeholders to
discuss the arrangements for funding activities to avert,
minimise and address loss and damage. We also established the
functions of the Santiago network, which will provide technical
assistance to developing countries to address loss and damage. So
progress was most certainly made.
(Con)
My Lords, I congratulate the Government on the tremendous
commitment and energy given to COP 26. My first global
environment conference was on saving the ozone layer with
Margaret Thatcher in 1988, which was British science-based. It
was a global movement, with the Montreal treaty, business getting
involved and a massive public campaign. Well, how much has
happened. My real delight is that it is not only nations but
regions and communities that will deliver these commitments. I
was there to represent the Humber region, the greatest provider
of carbon in the country, and it is going net zero, with a major
wind farm, major investment in hydrogen and major investment in
carbon capture. This is a community—local authorities and
business leaders—with political support, taking action into its
hands. We are none of spectators; we are all participants. If the
Minister can find her way to Hull, I would very much like to
introduce her to these remarkable leaders.
(Con)
I thank my noble friend. She is absolutely right. So many people
played such an important part in COP 26. It was attended by 120
world leaders. There were over 38,000 delegates from 194
countries. We brought together thousands of delegates from civil
society, indigenous peoples, business, youth groups and women’s
groups—all coming together with a common goal. I would be
delighted to visit Hull if she would like to arrange it.
(LD)
My Lords, I was very pleased to hear in the Prime Minister’s
Statement that, as I understand it, will continue his full-time
role as president of COP 26 until Egypt next year. I congratulate
him on what he achieved this time.
Two themes that came out in COP 26 were methane and carbon
sequestration. Going from the macro to the micro, I suggest two
things that the Government could easily do, almost immediately,
to help in those areas. In North Sea gas flaring, we are still
the laggard in comparison with other North Sea oil and gas
producers. We allow flaring. The Oil and Gas Authority recently
released a new strategy which said that it would stop flaring,
except in exceptional circumstances, by 2030. Why do we not stop
it immediately?
With carbon sequestration, peatlands are one of the major areas
of carbon storage and the UK has some of the largest areas in the
globe. Yet we still allow peat extraction for gardening and other
areas, and we allow it to be sold as a gardening accessory. We
can stop this almost immediately. It is the Government’s
intention to do so, so why do we not do both those things
now?
(Con)
I am happy to raise the noble Lord’s points with colleagues and
we will continue to look at ways to meet our obligations. The
noble Lord rightly talked about methane emissions. More than 100
countries, responsible for just under half of all methane
emissions, joined the global methane pledge to cut them by 30% by
2030. That includes six of the top 10 methane emitters—the US,
Brazil, the EU, Indonesia, Pakistan and Argentina—and the noble
Lord will be interested to know that, according to the global
methane assessment, action on methane can avoid up to 0.3 degrees
centigrade of warming by 2040. He is absolutely right that we
need actions at all levels to ensure that we continue working
towards this goal.
(Lab)
During last week’s questions on the COP Statement, I asked the
Minister how the funding was progressing towards raising that
£100 billion annually from developed countries to distribute to
less developed and developing countries, to help reduce emissions
and to combat and adapt to climate change. Can she now update the
House on the final climate finance contributions from the major
economies, and can the Government publish a list documenting the
amounts from each contributor?
(Con)
I thank the noble Lord. I knew that he would probably ask me this
question, so I have an answer for him about the United States,
which he asked about last week. It intends by 2024 to further
double its annual public climate finance to developing countries
to around £11.4 billion, including around £3 billion to support
adaptation efforts. He might be pleased to know that we have
indeed published such a document, COP26 Presidency Compilation of
2021-2025 Climate Finance Commitments, which lists the
commitments made in this area and which he might be interested to
read.
(Con)
My Lords, I would like to acknowledge the unexpected progress
that was made at COP, for example on rainforests, which I do not
think anybody has mentioned. On the move to change the energy
mix, I think it is at least as important for the Government that
they keep the lights on as it is to take measures to save the
planet. In that context, does my noble friend agree that the move
to intermittent renewables needs to be balanced, and indeed
balanced now, by a substantial investment in the British nuclear
industry, another source of zero-carbon energy? Does she further
agree that the neglect of the nuclear industry since the mid-90s
has been a disgrace?
(Con)
I am sure my noble friend is aware that we have a Bill in the
House of Commons looking at this area which will be coming to
your Lordships’ House soon so we can discuss these issues. We are
certainly looking to reinvigorate that sector. I will also just
say that last year was the first year in which renewables were
the primary source of the UK’s electricity and we have quadrupled
the percentage of our electricity that comes from renewables but,
of course, we need a mix in order to make sure that we have
security of supply.
(Lab)
My Lords, do the Government accept that to some extent global
climate change and global heating and biodiversity loss are two
sides of the same coin? In furthering their work after COP 26,
will the Government do more to include the effects on
biodiversity loss of the policies they are promoting?
(Con)
I completely agree with the noble Viscount. That is why we were
so pleased, for instance, with the 140 leaders representing over
90% of the world’s forests pledging to halt and reverse forest
loss by 2030. We also had 45 nations pledge action and investment
to protect nature and to shift to more sustainable ways of
farming and, as I mentioned earlier, there was action on the
global ocean. The noble Viscount is absolutely right, and that is
why we put this front and centre and included it in COP in a way
that had not happened before. My colleague, my noble friend
, is leading this: he is
passionate about it and will continue to talk to global
colleagues in order to keep this agenda going forward.
(GP)
My Lords, the Statement says that we have seen countries that
really should know better dragging their heels on their Paris
commitments. The Minister will be aware that the Beyond Oil &
Gas Alliance has launched, led by Denmark and Costa Rica and also
involving the states of California and Quebec. Given that we are
committed to 1.5 and one of the commitments of the Beyond Oil
& Gas Alliance is 1.5, meeting Paris commitments, are we not
dragging our heels by not signing up to this alliance?
(Con)
No. We have been central to action in this area. For instance, we
were central to setting up the Powering Past Coal Alliance which
now has 165 members, including national and subnational
Governments, businesses and organisations. We will obviously
continue to look at this area but we are certainly leading the
way. In fact, the transition is already under way. In OECD
countries, the share of coal in power generation has fallen from
a peak of 40% in 1990 to a low of 23% in 2019. As we have said,
although perhaps we had watered-down language, as we have all
accepted, the end of coal is in sight, and that is what we want
to continue to work to.
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